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Orks vs Tyranids Who wins?

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Orks vs Tyranids

Who wins?
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>>48393882
Khorne.
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>>48393902
/Thread
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>>48393882
Depends on setti-

Wait.
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>>48393882
The orks and tyranids

Everyone else loses
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>>48393882
The one who rolls better
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whoever wins, we lose
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>>48393882
Okay so here's my theory

Assuming it was ONLY Orks vs ONLY Tyranids

So the first encounter, the Orks could be anything from a full blown WAAAAGH to a couple outposts. Since only a WAAAGH has any real chance against the Tyranid horde, it's highly likely the Nids take the first battle. They then harvest Ork biomass, get back any losses, take any other biomass on the planet and move on

However, Ork spores would be leftover. Since Tyranids aren't known for going back to planets they've depleted, the Orks would be able to build up their forces in """"peace"""" until they reach WAAAGH levels. The Ork WAAAGH would catch up to the Tyranid horde and take them in the rear, a completely unexpected move since the Nids would't expect anything to be left.

This WAAAGH would likely have the highest chance of winning, being as close to a surprise attack as Orks are capable of, but lets assume it fails. The Orks deal heavy damage to the Tyranid horde, and the horde likely wouldn't have enough biomass to replenish their losses. Even if they do, there are now two Ork worlds being left behind, to grow into WAAAGHs and attack again. Even if the Nids go back to look for the Ork world and destroy it, they would leave spores which would just lead to another WAAAGH

The more worlds the Orks and Nids fight on, the more Ork worlds exist that are spawning WAAAGHs. Due to WAAAGHs grouping up because muh physics, eventually you'd have a large enough WAAAGH to completely take down the Tyranid horde

Maybe that's what the Nids are running from
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>>48393882
>Race that gets better and stronger by consuming varied bio material
>Race the spawns indefinitely with the same bio material every time

?
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>>48393882
the genestealers keep making more and more orky nids, and the orks keep respawning to provide more genes until the whole tyranid horde is all orky

the empire must now fight a horde of green tyranids with axes and ork """""""""""technology"""""""""""
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>>48393882
Well GW's official stance on the matter,
>lol no idea
Source: Octarius war

Personally I'd give the tyranids a slight edge, sincs they can consume raw resources and turn it into more creatures. Meanwhile orks need at least sheet metal to make their shanty town tier technology to work.
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>>48393882
Tyranorks.

Then >>48393999
Tzeentch Trips speak the "truth".

>>48394026
Kryptman, please stay.
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>>48394132
ork hibrids don't reproduce, only the first infected.
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>>48393882
Orks would win
>tyranid eat ork
>ork gene make tyranid orky
>tyranid is ork
I fink dat u unorky zogging git
>tyranid ork kill non-ork tyranids from within
wagh within, wagh without.
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>>48393882
Weren't squigs a type of tyranid back in the day?
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>>48394227
>hivemind flooded with images of orkyness
>hivemind reincarnates as gork or mork
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>>48394263
Yeah, originally. Pretty sure that's been retconned away though.
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>>48394061
>However, Ork spores would be leftover. Since Tyranids aren't known for going back to planets they've depleted, the Orks would be able to build up their forces in """"peace"""" until they reach WAAAGH levels. The Ork WAAAGH would catch up to the Tyranid horde and take them in the rear, a completely unexpected move since the Nids would't expect anything to be left.

Tyranids take the fucking atmosphere, every drop of water, every single shred of biomass and leave only a barren dead world behind.

There wouldn't be any orks left, assuming they at the very least need air to reproduce.
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>>48394289
>squigs
>squats
>sq
if your name starts with sq you are fucked
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>>48394311
>define biomass
oh boyz 'ere we gooooooooooo
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>>48394318
Squigs are still around.

Zoats, though, they're gone.
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Both. Orks get to fight to the death and the tyranids love the biomass.
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>>48394311
>The Imperium has encountered Orks and their kind living -- even prospering -- in such extreme environments as toxic Death Worlds, newborn planets still heaving with volcanic activity, or the depressurised carcasses of abandoned orbital platforms. Ork hordes have been found inhabiting drifting ice floes, or infesting irradiated asteroid fields perilously close to active stars. They have been discovered amid corrosive chemical swamps, on lightless nightmare worlds seething with horrific predators, even in the bombed-out remains of planets subjected to Exterminatus. It is rumoured amid the Imperium's Rogue Traders that there are even Ork enclaves hidden within the Eye of Terror itself, though most dismiss this as the ravings of madmen
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>>48393882
40k Orks, Tyranids, Eldar, Dark Eldar, Imperium of Man, Tau and Chaos vs. War in heaven full strengh Necrons
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>>48394061
Except the Orks were made for the sole reason of fighting the Nids so that would be the original reason why the Nids are running. Also this >>48394311
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>>48394398
Necrons still win.

Robofu 4 life.
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>>48393882
Tau
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>>48394400
See >>48394388

The orks don't need a atmosphere to breed

>or the depressurized carcasses of abandoned orbital platforms
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>>48394400
>Except the Orks were made for the sole reason of fighting the Nids so that would be the original reason why the Nids are running.
That is completely wrong.
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>>48394398
Great Crusade Pre-Heresy Imperium vs. War in Heaven Necrons

>?
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>>48394400
They were made to fight the necrons you ninny.
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>>48394400
dum git
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>>48394484
Crons do doughnuts in the middle of the Emperor's lawn and no one can stop them.
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>>48394484
Marneus Calgar and twenty good terminators vs War in Heaven Necrons + War in Heaven Eldar + War in Heaven Krork + All of the Tyranids
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I think it honestly depends on the waagh/splinter fleet in question. There are really three possibilities:
1: Orks kill all the tyranids/the tyranids decide to change the course of the hive fleet. The orks will recover in a few years as they regrow from fungus. This is a total victory for the orks, although that might be hard to explain to the warboss who doesn't have any boyz now, depending on how close it came.
2: Tyranids eat all the Orks at a favorable rate of attrition, allowing them to make up for the biomass expended on the conflict and then some. This is a total win for the nids.
3: Tyranids eat all the Orks, but the orks kill too many nids for the nids to make a biomass profit out of the fight. This is a Pyrrhic victory for the nids.
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>>48394398
Assuming the Dark Eldar are unified, and fully mobilized as a force, they can probably defeat the War in Heaven Necrons, since they are at the level of the Eldar Empire at its greatest height. Also, unlike the rest of the galaxy, the Dark Eldar have been doing research and creating new things. The only thing that gimps them is their constant back stabbing. Since they are working alongside the Imperiium in your hypothesis, it is only accpetable to assume that effectively every Kabal and Cult are in on this. Which would result in a thoroughly stomped Necron nation.
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>>48394555
Wouldn't orks just spawn from the dead worlds the nids leave behind though?

Since they just leave a completely barren world, they don't actually destroy it, and orks only need something to grow on to live

So even if they lose, they win
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>>48394597
to be fair fluff wise DE are some absolute serious shit to deal with.
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>>48394597
Im saying that without the DE, no way the 40K team can do it. With the DE, and the DE not being excessively backstabby cunts, suddenly you have the orks and Imperium armed with darklight weapons, Top of the line aircraft etc.
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>>48393882
Do you want the New Devourer.


Because this is how you get the New Devourer.
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>>48394628
>Orks without Technorkigy can be a threat to Tyranids
More like Ork Biomass farm.
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>>48394263
Orks reborn as Tyranids, some of which were rescued by their brethren while they were still in development. The rescued Squigs adapted to fulfil their various roles in Ork kultur, while the Tyranids refined their own Squigs and successfully removed their Orkiness.

Then Tyranid Squigs were replaced by Rippers and the whole thing was never mentioned again.
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>>48394679
>implying tryanids who eat orks wouldn't become orky
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>>48394536
>Not Kaldor Draigo,Marneus Calgar and twenty good babbyholders vs every xeno
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>>48394743
>diluting the broth with non-ultramarine stock
absolutely not
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>>48393882
The orks win
>nids eat the planet
>ork fungus infest the nids
>athletes foot with dakka
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>>48394739
>implying the hybrids won't be organized by the Hive Mind.
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>>48394804
>implying what we're arguing over isn't exactly what happened with the squigs
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>>48394829
>implying those aren't feral Orks
>implying Tyranid origine Squigs haven't been retconned
>implying Squigs don't go over to the Tyranid side in the presence of leader bugs
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>>48394861
*Feral Tyranids
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>>48393882
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>>48394484
The Great Crusade Pre-Heresy Imperium got fucked by the Squats. I say Necrons.
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>>48393902
Don't think he would get off on that though since the nids are incapable of feeling anything and the Orks have their own gods of battle
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>>48395171
What?
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>>48393902
>>48395400
Pretty much, Orks don't care about Chaos much.
'Nids make it it extremely unpleasant for demons to be in the warp around.

I'd say both have the most fun in their existence, the battle zone evolves into some sort of holy land for the Orks and an Incubator for the Hive Mind.
From time to time a subforce leave the zone and is almost unstopable.
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>>48395400
Cornfags BTFO
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>>48394400
>'Nids
>running

Only implied in a single sub sentence in a older codex.
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>>48395613
Got a screen cap of that one? Am curious about that
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>>48394628
I don't know if Orks need an atmosphere to live, but I'm pretty sure the spores would be eaten.
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>>48395400
Do we know that the great Gork and the stupid grot Mork aren't actually Khorne and Tzeentch?

Think about it, one is a brutal, powerful warrior god and the other is kinda cunning or something stupid, they could be the allmighty Khorne and that shitter Tzeentch
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>>48395613
>>48395660
It's in both the previous and current one. Hardly "implied" though - it's just thrown out as a possibility.

5th edition:
>Whether the Tyranids made this perilous journey because they had already consumed everything of worth in their home galaxy or in flight of another, even more fearsome race, is unknown.

6th edition:
>Some have even speculated that the Tyranids are in flight from an even greater threat, be it a galactic disaster or another fearsome race, and have risked the nothingness between galaxies rather than face extinction.
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>>48395772
How did the nids not starve to death on that long trip between galaxies? Especially since their FTL travel requires using the gravity wells from planets and stars IIRC

>>48395730
IDK, aren't the Ork gods successful? Corn and Tzatziki Sauce don't really have a good track record going
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>>48395856
>How did the nids not starve to death on that long trip between galaxies? Especially since their FTL travel requires using the gravity wells from planets and stars IIRC
No larger gravity well than one from an entire galaxy
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>>48395878
There's a shit ton of dead space between galaxies though
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>>48395964
Their FTL could scale with the gravity well they're using. Planetary size, standard FTL speed; galaxy size, they go to plaid.

Maybe.
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So are we all in agreement that nids are a deliberately engineered bioweapon?
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>>48396002
Yeah no shit. Every Nid is engineered by the Hivemind to serve a purpose in battle and the collection of resources.

If you mean designed by some sort of higher power then themselves then no that's never been implied by anything in fluff.
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>>48396088
I'm saying they were designed like the Orks were
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>>48395513
It's actually in the old fluff. The Squat Crusades ended with the Emperor deciding "Fuck it" & allying rather than taking over the Squats. This is why the Squats are allowed so much free will compared to even the AdMech.
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>>48396111
There's no evidence for that conclusion.

Realistically, I find it hard to believe a naturally evolving species can turn into modern Tyranids.

I like to think that there's one last Old One. They're pissed off about the state of the Milky Way and engineered the Tyranids to wipe that shit clean. Then the Tyranids ate the last Old One, and followed the instinctual drive to the Milky Way.
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>>48395856
A nice long sleep and a good meal beforehand.

>Whatever the truth, for the Tyranids to have endured such an epic voyage must have required both the greatest of single-mindedness and unimaginable amounts of energy. During their aeons-long journey across the void the Tyranids have slumbered in a state of frozen hibernation. Now, the Tyranids are here, inveigling their way into the galaxy like a disease into a healthy body. They have awoken, they are hungry, and the survival of every living thing hangs in the balance.

>Whatever the truth, for the Tyranids to have endured such a voyage must have required utter single-mindedness and unimaginable energy. During their journey, the Tyranids slumbered in a state of frozen hibernation, but now they have arrived, they have awoken and they are hungry.
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>>48396144
>Realistically, I find it hard to believe a naturally evolving species can turn into modern Tyranids.

That's what I'm getting at. They're too perfect of an organism IMO
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>>48396289
Right, but that's purely my belief. There's no evidence to support it.
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How does Games Workshop get off attempting to sue for some author using the term "Space Marine" in a book, yet thinks it's fine to have a character named Obi-Wan Sherlock Clousseau and blatantly rip off the Alien franchise?
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>>48396406
>yet thinks it's fine to have a character named Obi-Wan Sherlock Clousseau
copyright law was less fucked in the 80's

>and blatantly rip off the Alien franchise?
same way blizzard gets off on blatantly ripping off everything
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>>48396406
Because the current business owners who are sueing people for using "Space Marine" aren't at all the same business owners who took inspiration from those other franchises.
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>>48396406

Because British copyright law, and not wanting to give a future party to infringement grounds to argue abrogation of IP.
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>>48395730
'OO ZOGGIN GIT
GORK IZ KUNNIN' N' BRUTAL
MORK IZ BRUTAL N' KUNNIN'
OR IZ IT THA OTHA WAY 'ROUND?
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>>48396688
But corporations are viewed as individuals in a court of law
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I want to see what the nids are running from.
If they are running
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>>48397173
Matt Ward
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>>48393882
Both win. Orks get to fight plenty of enemies (and if they die it doesn't count) so they fulfill their win condition. Tyranids get plenty of biomass to eat as ork reproduction comes fron a self sustaining ecosystem, which fulfills their objectives.

Both races could be the only ones left in the galaxy and form a symbiotic relationship in fighting each other and getting eaten.
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>>48394132
The New Devourer.
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>>48397452
Not cannon faggot
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>>48396194
Maybe that's the reason that most of what they consume in a planet seems to disappear. They're storing it for the next travel.

>>48397461
Don't care. Learn to spell.
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>>48397530
nice ad hominem fagtron
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>>48397664
>ad hominem
Not technically ad hominem, but you used one perfectly.

Ironic.
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>>48397675
Yeah it was faggot.
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>>48397452
Actually the orks develop a third god: 'ungry.
Synapse and Waaagh!!! fields combine to form some silly shenanigans.
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>>48393882
Orkz

Because they'll never run out of enemies to fight.

You might think "Well, the orkz will eventually be overrun".

Possible. But just as likely will the krumpin' attract more orkz from other systems. The hive mind might block their ships from warping in. We all know the orkish mary sue tekknologee will find a way by sheer chance.

Orkz win. And they'll continue to win on that buginfested hellscape of a planet for as long as there are orkz in the universe.
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>>48397173
they had better run
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>>48394398
All dem full power C'tans
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>>48395856
They survived because they went into stasis and they literally just have THAT much biomass, they've consumed entire galaxies, they take minerals, earth, water, air and all life.

They got a fucking huge supply
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>>48396111
>>48396144
In the older fluff, the tyranids are naturally occurring. They became "aware" as a species and evolved at will etc... going from galaxy to galaxy consuming new DNA to sustain themselves and so on, theyre also described as being incredibly fucking old, however this was back in like 2nd edition or some shit and hasn't been mentioned since
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>>48394318
Sqisters of Battle retcon when?
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>>48393882
Judging from the way the current war is going, Nids.

Nids started snowballing so Eldar fuck bombed whole sectors to deny them biomass, Tyranids simmer down a bit. Then they start snowballing again and Ghazzy and his waaaagh show up and its evened out a bit now. Its only a matter of time before they get the upper hand again
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>>48393882
Orks. Tyranids are powerful but they ultimately don't advance. The Nids don't have super weapons, they don't have giant mobile weaponized planets.

Orks, when fully unified in a war have fleets of Death Star weaponized moons armed with gravity weapons that rip apart planets and destroy fleets of ships.
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>>48399803
They have Hive ships big enough to swallow small moons, with organs bigger than cities.

They have devoured MULTIPLE galaxies, they literally have an almost unending supply, decillion+ tonnes worth of biomass, when the main fleet arrives they will probably outnumbers 1000s to 1
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>>48394467
They've probably arrived there on a spaceship and made a settlement there, repairing some parts of orbital platform. I doubt orks can survive in a no atmosphere environment.
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>>48399984
That does nothing when the Orks flip a switch and rip the entire fleet apart with gravity waves, or start using planets as missiles. Again, Tyranids just don't have anything impressive when it comes to tech, all they've got is numbers. And when faced with technologically superior foes they tend to get their asses beaten. Plus Orks united will conquer everything in 40k per canon.
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>>48395400
>>48395564
You both are retards. It's outright said that Khorne feeds on the carnage and bloodshed commited by both the Orks and Tyranids. Heck, Khorne's facial features have Orkish elements in them because of how much he feeds on them.

I want to anaalyze something. Why do other faction fanboys feel the need to make up headcanon which is basically "My faction gives no fucks about Chaos". Tell me.
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>>48394558
No.

The Necron would have actual gods. Possibly thousands of them. Each one of them is capaable of destroy a star with uttering a single word,
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>>48400243
>per headcanon
ftfy
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>>48400289
Not him.

But that actually happened in the Beast series where the Ork Attack Moons used gravitational super weapons to wreck Imperial fleets.

There is more examples of this in the Ork codex.
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>>48400243
This.

Orks have access to the most horrifying weapon even imagined. cartoon physics
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None.

Nids may feast or ork biomass, but there will be so much ork spores that every tyranid ship, alive or wrecked will become a new breeding ground for orks. It will be a stalemate of epic proportions, an endless scrap fought with stolen carnifexes and orkagaunts.
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>>48400349
Ghaz broke the statlemate, though.
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>>48400305

WS 4, BS 2, S 3, T4, W 1, I 2, A 2, Ld 7, Sv 6+

How do we fix the orks
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>>48400357
Until the next hive fleet arrives.
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>>48393924
Depends on which parts are canon.
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Three words :
Looted
Hive
Fleet
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>>48400273
>Why do other faction fanboys feel the need to make up headcanon which is basically "My faction gives no fucks about Chaos".
Well, mainly because orks actually give zero fucks about Chaos. Orks don't work with chaos because Chaos gods don't really click with them

> Nurgle zogs off because orks don't feel despair.
Yes, they can panick and get scared in a moment when they run out of ammo/are about to get stomped but it does not equal to permament despair Nurgle needs.

> Tzeentch zogs off because orks are simply too predictable and simple minded.
Yes, there are talented and cunning ork tacticians out here, but beeing good at tactics and planning =/= scheming bastard Tzeentch wants you to be. Also good luck trying to mutate such a sturdy organism as an ork or make it master arcane arts.

> Slaanesh zogs off for obvious reasons.
Asexual reproduction and orks have very basic needs for art, drugs and music so nothing here for gayfag prince as well.

> Khorne zogs off because of the way orks fight.
Now this is tricky. At first glance you would think that orks would fucking love Khorne since both seem to be loving the same thing - beating shit out of anything. Difference is - Khorne wants a glorious battle and would prefer a fair and even bloody fight then one sided massacre. Orks on the other hands wants to simply hit stuff and win the same instant. Also collecting skulls, serving rituals and stuff seems like a huge chore for orks.
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>>48400515
But why are orks so shit on tabletop? Why are their no ork spore mechanics
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>>48400515
Well den, tell me why Tuska hasn't been retconned and Orkhalla is still a fing.
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>>48400273
>Why do other faction fanboys feel the need to make up headcanon which is basically "My faction gives no fucks about Chaos". Tell me.

I imagine it's a reaction to the people who like to run around proclaiming Chaos is the biggest, bestest, most powerful thing in any kind of fiction ever and nuh-uh, it can't ever lose to anything because it's all powerful times infinity.

Chaosfags are literal cancer.
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>>48400627
Tuska is not serving Khorne and one could argue that Khorne gets off the fact that his deamons get to beat the shit out of/get beaten by orks 24/7 and not orks fighting. He probably made it there are just barely enough daemons to overwhelm orks everytime to make it more fun. How Tuska and his boyz get resurrected every time is beyond me though, since ork souls are supposed to be untouchable by chaos gods. Maybe they are too deep in the Eye of Terror for Gork `n Mork to find them.

What is Orkhalla though?
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>>48400727
>untouchable by chaos gods
What was this about again? Can't remember reading this anywere
>orkhalla
sounds like headcanon
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>>48400359
>stop ramping up the bullshit in other armies
>compensate for shitty ork stats by giving them better/higher ROF weapons or more (situational) attacks (rage on a waaagh turn? ways to call multiple waaghs? ways to get access to counter attack?)
>KFFs/painboyz/cyborks more accessible/stackable
l>ess outright disadvantageous special rules
trukks should be able to fit fifteen
>give nobs T5 already you faggots

'course, most people will just say slash the prices and/or give them bullshit wargear for a deathstar like the army of the month. I don't play orks, but those are ultimately just shitty bandaid solutions.
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Fluff wise, Orks
They fought the octarius war to a stalemate and won when ghazkull showed up with his WAAAAAAGH!

Orks are the only species who can outnumber the tyranids
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>>48400614
They take some time to regrow, it's not an instantaneous thing
Ya git.
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>>48400754
Its simple , when boys die, Gork `n Mork fight for their souls.
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>>48394061
>>48394311
They need something organic for their spores to catch. And Tyranids would eat them anyway.

>>48395856
Successful how? They don't do shit and are complete failures at guiding Orks to unite, nor can they always protect them against Chaos. Even moreso if they always existed, since the War in Heaven because then they also failed the Old Ones.

>>48400305
Ye but those are some special Orks. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some Krork plot twist.
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>>48400817
Ghazkull hasn't won yet though,and iirc he has left the octarius system so I can't see the Orks holding out there much longer
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>>48393882
Bar plot-shit, Tyranids.
As great as Orks are, they can't outpace the swarm.
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>>48400716
>Chaosfags are literal cancer.

You mean you are the cancer. If you don't like what's in the fluff, then fuck off.
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>>48401131
>salty chaos tears
slaneesh got the wrong size buttplug again?
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Scenario 1: Orks win

Scenario 2: Orks get defetaed, more orks get attracted to a "propa' foight" unill they win
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>>48400716
>Chaosfags
>fags
>s
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>>48400515
Orks have fallen to Chaos, dude.
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>>48401213
Orks haven't fallen to chaos, they fell chaos
Just look at Tuska and his rampage trough the warp
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>>48401181
What salt. Your initial post was the definition of salt.

>Chaosfags keep telling me what's in the fluff and now I am sad

Grow up.
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>>48401234
>Orks haven't fallen to chaos, they fell chaos

No, there are Orks who got converted to Khorne, Orks, and Tzeentch. Such as the BloodBoyz, The Green Plague, and the Tzeentchian Ork Warboss from Bloodquest.
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>>48401131
>>48401181
Could you guys chill? No need to start the hate dispute.

>>48401213
That was retconned , was it not? Nurgle and Khornate orks.

Lets be honest, taking a faction and slapping "CHAOS" to it does not go well with creativity. You'd be vomiting if there were separate factions Corrupted Tau, Sister of Chaos, Tzeentch Necrons and Corrupted Nids.
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>>48401255
Wasn't that retconned?
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>>48401245
not even same poster salty nurglecuck
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>>48401234
But it's Khorne resurecting Tuska and his warband. Gork and Mork don't have shit on them.
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>>48401262
No, I will not be chill.

And it was not retconned. It's recent 6th ED and 7th ED lore we are talking about with the exception of Bloodquest see >>48401255.

Another example is the corrupted Ork experiments that Abaddon is cooking up.
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>>48401286
Does not matter. Salt is salt.

>>48401277
Naaaaaw
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>>48401290
Yeah, but tuska does not worship khorne, despite being rezzed every day by him

>>48401302
1v1 me irl fgt my dad works for nintendo
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>>48401302
stay mad khorneflakes
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>>48401292
Let me add another example. "Angron's Monolith".

Feral Orks on Armageddon who spawned near one of Angron's Monolith's were corrupted by Khorne. They even started turning red.
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>>48401308
Khorne owns his soul, regardless.
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>>48401319
Yeah, but that's not because Tuska worships khorne, Tuska is still loyal to Gork an Mork, despite being Khorne's waifu
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>>48393882
>Orkz keep doing the same shit ad infinitum and rely on other races for their basis on technology
>Tyranids are removing these other races piece by piece and can only get better at killing Orkz
>Tyranids are already forcing WAAAGH!s into standstill

Orkz don't stand a chance.
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>>48401308
But Khorne owns their souls and gets power from them constantly getting slain by Khornate daemons.
How is that Orks felling Chaos?
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>>48401346
>Brainboyz somehow get to the genetics research facility underground on Luna
>find primarch sequencing genes
>Oy come 'ere ya lousy git, I gotz a new ways to strengthen dat inner dakka
>Nob Primarchs hybrids
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>>48401352
Simple, when you would ask Tuska and his boyz who they worship they would say "Gork an' Mork" or "Mork an' Gork" and not Khorne

Chaos can clain your soul, but that's being taken by chaos, now falling to it is different, since you gotta worship one of it's entities, wich the mentioned orks dont
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>>48401365
>One Tyranid consumes one Nob Primarch Hybrid
>Tyranids now have Primarch genes to play around with in their unmatched genetic alteration game
>Tyranid Primarchs
>Tyranids continue to improve
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>>48401370
Who knows, maybe just this once Gork`n Mork decided to high five Khorne because everyone involved found it absolutely full of fuckwin - endless carnage and all.
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>>48401370
Khorne is unorky, somehow.
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>>48401382
>>48401370
and what I mean is that they've decided to play along and allow this whole resurrection mess...
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>>48401382
Knowing orks and their gods they probably did find it fun, and if they gave any high fives its probably landing on someone's face

>>48401391
Khorne kills
Gork smashes

>>48401394
They dont allow it, khorne does it despite what they think of it, in his favor, the orks actually enjoy it, since it means more chaos smashing for them
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>>48401414
>gork doesn't kill
nice headcanon
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>>48401429
If you smash something alive, a side effect would probably include death
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>>48401438
>pull trigger on loaded gun
>man dies
Guys it was the bullet, not me.
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>>48401376
>Silent King: Fuck this bullshit. I'll exterminate Sol System and me and my boys leave this galaxy for good.
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>>48401370
I wasn't the original anon you were arguing, so my point wasn't about Tuska falling to Chaos. You're right there. But he still belongs to Khorne and no one else.
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>>48401486
>Necrons blow up the Sol system
>the Emperor dies because of this
>before Necrons can make it out of the galaxy Chaos consumes reality
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>>48401487
That's correct, since he did perish in the warp and a demon controled world his soul is taken by khorne
all i wanted to clarify that being "taken" and "falling to" are different things, since you can only "fall to" chaos by accepting it as your icon of worship
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>>48393882
>Necrons have no souls
Still affected by warp powers
>Orks are immune to chaos
Still affected by chaos
>Matt Ward is immune to chaos

I JUST
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>>48401213
In about same editions as Malice and half-eldar marines
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>>48396144

You mean like the Xel'Naga?
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>>48396144
I like to think of Tyranids like an emergency "RESET" switch for galaxy that Old Ones made. Something made it go off, maybe it was the last Old One going "If we are to be wiped, so everyone else" mode.
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>>48401517
Ehh that's another can of worms. You can worship Chaos without knowing it. Like blood sacrifices to the Mountain God or someshit. Or you can fall to them, but you think the whispers are only your hidden self. Or those ex Guardsmen that were pretty much a Chaos cult, but in reality their PTSD made them think they were killing cultists and doing the Emperor's work.
That's why Chaos is the big bad in 40k imo. Tuska's warband is loyal to Tuska, and Gork and Mork by extension, but in reality they are only fueling Khorne. They sold their souls without knowing it. Khorne doesn't care that they devote their kills and deaths to Gork and Mork because in the end it's him who reaps all the benefits.
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>>48401560
>Having no soul makes you immune to Warp-powers

There's a difference between a Blank and just having no soul.
>>
ERE WE GO BOYZ
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>>48401570
you

see

>>48401292

Retard.
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>>48401570
Malice technically only showed up in fantasy before his creator left GW. And chaos didn't even exist at the start of rogue trader, when when spock (the half-eldar ASTROPATH) was made.

Chaos orks are a 2nd edition creation, anyways. And 2nd edition has set pretty much all of the standards for 40k fluff over the past 20+ years.
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Nids get as small as microscopic, and fight Ork spores. Said so in the codex where they were fighting on an agri world. Total victory for the nids is TOTAL victory for the nids; no Ork resurgence.
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>>48401636
oh, makes sense
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>>48393882
>Ork Spores start growing inside the Hive-Ships.

>Tyranids have constantly getting rid of orkoid "parasites"

>super robust squiggs are created.

>Orks want these super-squiggs,

>Tyranids eat one ork-world too much.

>Gork & Mork get angry.

>Biggest Waagh in History kills the shit out of Nids.
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