Jumpchain CYOA Thread #966: Gaia Is Best Waifu Edition

So, to address a question at the end of the last thread, racial options in Overlord are alt-forms. I didn't mention it in the document because I kind of assumed it went without saying. I don't think I've seen any racial options on offer in any jumps that weren't alt-forms.

>>48372041
>>48371978
Is that mind control including mind reading? Like, the moment it controls me they would see my memories and be aware of my powers?

What's the range on it? How does it have to be activated? Point at person, think of em, touch em?

>>48372041
Thanks for clarifying. I tend to assume the opposite unless it's explicitly stated. Kind of 'you can't unless it says you can'. There's only a few instances I can think of of the top of my head that don't say it explicitly (Darkstalkers & Hellsing) though. Might just be me being silly though.

>>48372041
I know that it wouldn't count as equipped but would having an item in your inventory count as having it on your person? Such as for a perk that auto loads any ammo you are carrying into your weapon without the need to reload?

So, what other planet spirits are there in jump chain? Are there any ways to interact with other planet spirits in jumpchain?

>>48372041
I just remembered from ages ago, is there any chance of adding a +0 drawback that makes Albedo yandere for the jumper instead of Ainz?

>>48372041
This is the last thing I'm going to post on the subject, then I'm done. There's multiple builds in the God of War Jump which are competitive, even if you take a "no outside perks" drawback. You can be a God, or a Monster, or a Hero. You don't need to take the Titan Blood capstone to win, you just need some blend of perks that'll get you there.

You, on the other hand, mandate taking Level 100 to have any hope of dealing with the biggest dangers in Overlord. Which also means nothing else in Ovelord combined can even hope to compare to it. 1800 CP on perks designed to make you combat capable? You wasted 1800 points, because you're not as capable as you would have been if you'd spent 600. That's shitty jump design, and it's tragic that you don't see it.

Insult me all you want, I'm done responding to someone who thinks making one must-buy perk better than everything else in his jump combined is a hallmark of quality.

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Tell me about the time you said something totally badass and the circumstances that led to it.

>>48372112
>Crying more.

>>48372101
We just had that argument but the jumpmaker didn't respond.

>>48372050
It's super-mind control. As in they literally flip your loyalty such that you are now 100% loyal to them and fuck all your previous associations. They can't read your mind, it doesn't do that, but they could order you to tell them all your secrets and you would.

As for the range, it's close range. It's an item and you have to be, at absolute minimum, within sight of them. Presumably the range is shorter than that, perhaps a hundred meters or so.

The item itself is a dress. They have to be wearing it and activating it takes a few seconds. They don't have to point at you specifically, but it's not subtle in the slightest.

>>48372083
Sure. In canon Ainz has to leave his Ring of Ainz Ooal Gown with Pandora's Actor when he vists the treasure vault, because just having it in his inventory still counts as having it 'on him' for purposes of tripping the traps in that area.

>>48372112
Listen dude, your argument is retarded. You are complaining that you can't take out/survive what equates to a pantheon of living gods (compared to normal people) whom SPECIFICALLY want you dead and when you SPECIFICALLY have no out of jump powers or items to fall back on .. while you yourself at not also on par with them.

Your argument and complaint is stupid. I don't like have to use language like that since I think it causes debates to break down, but there's really nothing that can be said other than. You are complaining about taking freaking top-tier drawbacks, including one that restricts out of jump abilities and items, and then being surprised that you can't win unless you take the 'max power' options on offer in the jump.

>>48372101
How is that a drawback? If it was a drawback she'd want you dead.

TLDR - Hell no.

>>48372041
Is there any chnace of bumping the drawback caps up a little?

>>48372195
Hence the +0. Similar to stuff like hellsing abridged/schrodinger and gag reel from blazblue. But if you dont want to include it I wont push it further, just I thought the idea was pretty amusing.

>>48372215
Yeah, not to agree with the guy bitching about Level 100, but the jump I'd clearly built around that undercounted CP hog if a perk. It'd be nice if you could squeeze out a couple of hundred extra CP without being suicidal.

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I hope nobody minds, but I'm going to post a few builds and a little writefagging I've done.

Main Chain - Interlude 25
http://pastebin.com/hy0cUVD2

Main Chain - Jump 26 - Spice and Wolf

Location: Free Pick - Pasloe (Rolled)
Background: Merchant, Male, 26 (Free/Rolled)

Abilities:
+ A Friendly Face (200)
+ Fluffy Tail (250) [Wolf ears and Tail. Black with white tips.]
+ The Monster Inside of Me (850) [Wolf Form]

Items:
+ Spice x2 (Free)
+ Barrel of Apples (950)
+ Goons (1250)
+ Legendary Steed (1400)

Drawbacks:
+ Just a Humble Trader (1000)


Story, TLDR version:
+ DC, Sweets, and Lenore stayed inside the Warehouse in stasis rather than wander around this world. Tak and Seras struck off together to have their own fun. Alita went out alone in a huff. She was annoyed that I had decided to take a vacation from everyone.

+ Backstory - Born to a rather poor mother who still believed in the Old Ways. Quite understandable because I clearly had the blood of some Little God or another running through my veins. Was taught very early on to hide my ears and tail. Became quite good at the lie. Eventually started helping out at a nearby Inn. Earned enough to buy my first load of spices and cart. Mother gave me the horse I now own. She refused to tell me where she got it from, for I had never seen it. And so I set off, stopping in Pasloe along the way to check out the Harvest Festival.

+ Holo picked to stowaway in my cart instead of Lawrence's. Probably because she smelled the apples. She was quite unperturbed when I mentioned what exactly I was and more than a little "hands-on" when I revealed my ears and tail. Still, she was charming and attractive, so we ended up wandering around together. I agreed to help her visit her homeland, if for no other reason than it would give me a goal beyond idle wandering.

[1/2]

>>48372084
You can do the Codex Alera Fury-Crafting thing and make a fury/genius loci/nature spirit representative of the entire planet and potentially more.

Voice of the Planet and Realm of Myths let you interact with the setting like this too. With some wank, Arcane from Smite because enough mana can do anything.

There's probably more, I'm looking for stuff as I speak.

>>48372195
>How is that a drawback?
Basically a little while after you posted the first version of the jump here some anons thought it would be fun/funny if 42nd could have an option where Albedo becomes a companion for the price of having to deal with her bullshit. Some other anons got really pissy about the idea because they thought it was NTR.

>>48372215
Probably not. 600cp is the traditional cap, and you can already get up to 800cp if you're willing to put yourself at serious risk.

>>48372232
It doesn't even make sense. Albedo is not Yandere for Ainz, she is deredere. She's perfectly willing to share with others, she and Shalltear literally have several conversations along those lines in canon. It's the other members of AOG she hated, and only because they didn't stick around like Momonga did.

Regardless no such drawback will be making an appearance, because it's not actually a drawback.

>>48372256
You don't have to take it. If you've got quick training perks and are willing to invest the time you can get level 100 without purchasing it. You just won't have access to any of the good stuff until you do, and it will take a while.

>>48372306
>600cp is the traditional cap
Oh good lord don't say that, "Because I said so" is less likely to cause a shitstorm.

>>48372306
That might technically be true, but you can't do anything relevant during the jump if you don't take it, and during the time you spend trying to get there you could just get learn the other classes' abilities and talents instead.

>>48372352
>That might technically be true, but you can't do anything relevant during the jump

Take friends with the devil. Done.

>>48372352
If you dont antagonize them chances are you will be fine.

>>48372352
Sure you can. Take friends with the Devil. 100cp, and Ainz and Nazarick like you. You now get to pal around with them, and maybe affect the overall operation of Nazarick via influencing Ainz, and you don't have to be level 100, or even in the realm of heroes, to do it.

Alternatively nothing it stopping you from being relevant with out of jump perks and powers. Complaining about not being able to be relevant when taking a Drawback that forces no out of jump stuff and then not buying the options that make it easier for you to interact on the 'plot level' is just silly.

>>48372371
This guy gets it.

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>>48372259
[2/2]
+ Pretty dull overall, for a Jump. Plenty of social interaction, trading, and lots of fun conversations, but only a few action packed moments. One of these involved Alita, who had been accused of being a witch for defending herself with Panzer Kunst. The Church had overwhelmed and captured her. They were holding her until the next Holy Day to burn her sins away, or some such nonsense.

+ I immediately dropped everything to rush over and save her. I was all ready to dive in, monster form first, but Holo cautioned me. She persuaded me to try a stealthy approach, which ended up working much better. Alita was beaten and bruised, but they had thought better of trying to molest her after she had broken fingers in a very intimate way. She was grateful for the rescue, but glared at Holo as if she was a hated enemy and dashed off before much could be said. I was confused, but Holo sighed and shoved me after her.

"I refuse to continue travelling with someone who could make a girl cry. Go apologize you idiot!"

+ What followed was a rather heartwarming scene that I refuse to relate because even a Jumper is allowed a private moment now and then. In the end, Alita and I had started to patch things up and Holo approved. The three of us traveled together from then on, enjoying each others company more than anything else. It took years, as such things do, before Alita and I had managed to mend the fence fully, but time was the one thing we had in abundance in this Jump.

+ Tak and Seras showed up now and again when our paths crossed. Eventually they stated that they were heading South to the tropics and wouldn't be back for several years. I took fresh hair and nail samples from them, in case the worst happened, and bid them good luck and much love.

+ The Jump ended on a snowy day, with the cart buried and the horse comfortably stabled, in a small wooden cottage I had bought near the northern edge of the world. Holo came along, because I was a great friend.

>>48372352
If you have any learning perks or xp perks they are going to help a lot. Do you complain about not having max power in d&d if you dont pay for it?

>>48372306
Generally, it's been considered `okay` to bump the drawback cap up if the jump offers a ton. Several do, many don't. It's down to jumpmaker preference.

That said, the argument you can't be relevant is basically total hogwash, though that should be obvious by now. Someone tried an identical argument for Lost Property, and one anon was even convinced Cardcaptor Sakura was out to murder him and could.

It's a silly place.

So bit of confusion about sentient tech from the way Red was talking about it- are we banned from utilizing its full potential from the origin and associated sentient perks? Or are we banned from getting it in any sense, including by using other tech/magical perks? I could understand the first, but what the hell is the point of the second? Sentient tech doesn't seem any more 'broken' than Wormtech. In terms of scale and complexity it seems way goddamn weaker, what with the lack of multiversal space folding and galaxy busting durability/attacks.

>>48372277
Codex Alera furies scale with how 'powerful' you are, but what does that mean? In what context?

>>48372422
Question: How does any amount of human knights manage to overwhelm Alita? She doesn't have the nickname "Battle Angel" for no reason. I'm fairly certain she could disable (non-fatally if she wanted to, even, so issues of being held back from not wanting to hurt all those people) an entire country on her own.

>>48372405
If you're the 42nd Supreme Being, how much do extra Custom NPCs cost beyond the first?

>>48372467
Since you're a Player automatically you get the Player discount, so 200 per.

>>48372449
What sort of shard tinker tech has galaxy busting things?

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>>48372447
>Cardcaptor Sakura was out to murder him and could
Does this look like the face of mercy?

>>48372459
I assume mental strength?

>>48372494
Yes?

>>48372489
I assume they're referencing Sting which, by the very nature of its operation, is expending more energy than is contained in the observable universe every time it is used. Even if it doesn't appear that way.

>>48372494
That is a face of a cold blooded murderer.

>>48372306
+0 CP "drawbacks" aren't drawbacks, they're toggle options. They're generally are used for things like "you're going to be in an alternate continuity," "you're taking a main character's place," or "some random meme about the setting is now true for that setting." I think it got started with Wild Wasteland in Fallout.

Like >>48372232 I'm not trying to argue, just educate.

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>>48372463
I'll be perfectly honest, you're right. Even stuck in a human body, Alita should be able to hold off entire small armies of Knights. I had initially planned for her to be merely on the run from the Church for the self-defense and then subsequent pummeling of a few dozen Paladins.

But then I rolled the dice and she got an 11/1000. So I'm guessing someone got lucky with a sword pommel to the back of her head. I was forced to rework a lot of my plan because of that, but it ended up better in the end.

>>48372494
canonically, yes lots of mercy for everyone.

>>48372548
Heroes never die.

>>48372555
But people die when they are killed

>>48372475
So how hard would it actually be to survive Powerless + Rival Guild with a fairly min-maxed build.

>>48372447
>Cardcaptor Sakura was out to murder him

I remember that. It was funny.

>>48372277
There really should be.

>>48372489
I didn't say 'shard tinker tech'. I was referring to the Endbringers being galaxies of mass and Scion killing them. He might of also just bypassed their durability so whatever. Maybe not galaxy destroying attacks (although given the other feats of the entities it would be surprising if they couldn't). The sheer scale and complexity of Wormtech is far greater than anything ever displayed by Sentients, was my point. I'd understand not making it available for purchase, but not letting us even figure it out on our own is just weird.

>>48372578
Did you take that mass import companion option with all of them at lvl 100? Then survivable, as long as you're very careful.

If you're solo? Prepare your anus. You'll be facing long odds in the extreme no matter what your build, and if you need to sleep or rest *at all* you're basically dead. Basically you're going to be spending 10 years on the run and you need to be ready to bolt at the slightest provocation. And they *will* be pulling Scry and Die on you unless you take some sort of measure to prevent it.

>>48372195
How many people at once can the dress affect?

How powerful antimagic or anti reality warping a power or object has to be to deny or weaken the world item power?

>>48372578
>So how hard would it actually be to survive Powerless + Rival Guild with a fairly min-maxed build.
It's not worth the extra 200CP.

>>48372618
but it's totally chainbreaking tho

>>48372647
Wouldn't I be able to slaughter them pretty easily with Level 100 + Heteromorphic Race (any) + Realm of Heroes + World Class Item (any)? Momonga's nothing special among Level 100s, especially once you can null death, and he's their strongest character.

>>48372647
>Scry and Die
Anti-scrying perks really are goat.

>>48372447
To be fair, Overlord lets you be as strong as Ainz for 600 cp. With Lost Property, you're explicitly weaker than canon characters for no real reason than because they're too strong in relation to... something.

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>>48372449
>>48372618
What you get in the Drop-In capstones is the most you're going to get. I've already explained that I'm not letting anyone get the full scope of Sentient shenanigans. At all. I've already explained the adaptation stuff (one anon pointed out a good comparison, the 80%-90% damage reduction was off, it's actually more), how they can mindrape anyone who touches/see through a piece of Sentient bone regardless of distance, the works.

Simply put, there would be literally no point to offering anything else if I put it on full offer. None. We're talking the machine race that looked at a Clarketech godlike civilization and pretty much had a giggle. Why the hell would anyone go for anything else when Sentient stuff could give everything and better? So no. I'm putting my foot down on this one. No. The hardcap is not getting removed.

>b-but endbringers
And now you're arguing inter-jump stuff when the issue has been intra-jump concerns. No.

>>48372660
How? In what way?

>>48372680
There is another much stronger character in Nazarik that the enemy guild would have their own equivalent of.

Soul Eater, obsession (boobs) would you essentially be like Spirit?

>>48372722
Well clearly you'd take the one that makes Momo come after you instead of the one that sends some unknown after you.

>>48372726
Boobs are justice.
They are not madness.

>>48372741
If you take the one that has Nazarik after you they would still eventually send Albedo's sister after you, who is also an unknown.

>>48372707
Alright cool, you're not going off of inter-jump balance. But are you even reading my arguments? I'm not asking for it to be offered. It's fine if the version we can buy is gimped if it's so much better than the rest of the jump (intrajump and all that). I just don't see why we can't replicate it no matter how many super-science perks we have. What's the actual rational of banning it?

>>48372726
Wait wasn't Spirit all about the ass, or am I thinking about a different pervy anime character?

>>48372775
>inb4 Albedo's sister is a yandere too.

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>>48372742
http://souleater.wikia.com/wiki/Madness_of_Boobs

>This madness type influences an individual into having a much larger preference of female breasts and makes those under its influence fascinated with it enough to have the urge to repeatedly fondle, grab, or think of them often.

>>48372775
>Albedo's sister
wot

>>48372786
Think spirit was all about having women around, period. He often goes to the hostess bar where he has all the young women drinking with him.

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>>48372797
>>That picture.
I knew I liked you for a reason Manyfist.

The guild war drawback seems incredibly cruel to the locals.
>Two groups of incredibly powerful monsters are going to go to war in your general area, they both have neigh impregnable fortresses and resurrection capabilities so this is unlikely to end anytime soon.

>>48372801
One of her two sisters is supposedly the most powerful being in the setting, far outstripping momonga.

>>48372784
Because if I let people just simply study and replicate the full thing, what's the fucking point of anything else in the first place? It's basically putting up a sign that says "no tresspassing" then giving you a key to the front door. There might as well not even be a cap if someone can just walk up and snap their fingers to get the full package without paying a single point.

On top of that, your arguments have been "Endbringers and Worm setting is more OP so this should be allowed", which is honestly skeevy.

Just a reminder to introduce the Endbringers to a GBE, because haha fuck them.

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>>48372849
>Yoro likes tits
Huh. I always figured with your bunny fixation you'd gravitate more toward petite builds.

>pic is not petite

>>48372868
Chill out. I haven't made any jumps, so I wasn't aware that it was standard for really powerful shit in setting to be banned even if it's not broken in the context of the chain. Generally if people argue for a thing in setting to be actually fiat banned, instead of not being offered, it's because it's actually chainbreaking instead of 'just' being really powerful.

Updated Build, and I am so god damn happy.

Overlord(Anime)-
0/1600
The Great Tomb of Nazarick
Rolled for 25
Player
Free Angel
Warrior
Free Tolerance of Evil-God fucking damn it
Free Personal Inventory
Free Themed Asthetics
Free Shared Language
The 42nd Supreme Being
Free Level 100
The Realm of Heros
Free Damage Focused
Discount World Champion
Free Golden Coins
Free Summoned Mount
Free Hall of the Champion
Free Medium Tier Equipment
Discount The Bracelet of Arnessa- Sure, I don't have Divine Tier Equipment, but Incredibly buffed Defense, I'm Twice as Strong when I'm already Stronk as Fuck, and the protection from mind-altering effects and instant death? Yes please.
Free Ring of Ainz Ooal Gown
Free Homunculus Maid
Free Custom NPC
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Here we go, my Custom Floorboss tier character. Who is basically replacing Cocytus
Name:Dis
Alignment: Great~Extreme good, Sense of Justice:450
Free Warrior
Free Themed Asthetics
Free Inventory
Free Legendary Equipment
Free Level 100
Free Realm of Heros
Free Dragonoid
Free Magic Warrior
Discount Tireless
Arcane Caster
Specific Specialization-Evoker

The idea is that she becomes a co-floor boss with Cocytus, with the 4th Floor remaining an Ice-themed floor. The trick? She's a Fire-themed boss.
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Foreigner+100
Embroiled in Politics+200
Rival Player+300

>>48372797
>>48372849
>>48372923
>inb4 the cult of the booty

>>48372652
One at a time, there is a cool down effect.

World Items are canonically the condensed power of an entire World. So, basically, can you muster an effect equivalent to the power of an entire world? If the answer is no, then you have your answer.

>>48372680
No. You think they're going to line up one by one? They want you dead. They're going to go in loaded for beat and with way more fighters and disposable troops than you have any hope of countering solo.

>>48372695
Not quite. The magic caster perks are based off of him. He's got the equivalent of lvl 100, Necromancy, Dark Wisdom, and Abyss of Magic. And a full set of divine tier gear. And Skeleton.

>>48372775
Forget her. They're not going to come at you piece meal. Ainz is not Rita Repulsa or Lord Zed, he's one of the best PK's from the Yggdrasil game and he's going to bury you under high level disposable monsters. And he, personally, isn't going to be anywhere near you. He fought Shalltear solo because he didn't want the other NPC's, whom he thinks of as practically the children of his friends, killing each other.

>>48372801
Albedo's *sisters*. One of them enables high-tier Scry-and-die tactics and the other is apparently the equivalent of a mini-raid boss or something.

>>48372784
Just buy it as your tech in that space brain jump.

>>48372946
>Cult of booty
>Not cult of thighs
Try again mate.

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>>48372923
My heart bedroom has more than enough room for females of all builds. From flat to handfuls to massive mountainous ranges, all can and will be included!

I'm actually more of a leg and booty fan, but I still have a healthy appreciation for busts.

>>48372868
But hardcapping things in a setting to jumpers with reverse engineering perks, just so the things available for purchase are more valuable relatively speaking, isn't in the spirit of jumpchain.

That's like heading to Worm and literally everything not on purchase in the setting itself being totally of limits to the jumper.

>>48372983
These inane debates forget that amazing breasts, butts, and thighs are not mutually exclusive.

>>48372966
Wait what? I thought in jump and setting Ainz was an 'average' level 100? It even references it in the jump.

>>48373029
>Not adding Legs to that equation
I will fight you mate.

>>48372923
Try might not have been a very good show, but at least it carried on in the first season's tradition of having excellent waifu bait.

>>48372695
Explain further?

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>>48372983
>>48372946
>>48373029
Booty!

>>48373020
>That's like heading to Worm and literally everything not on purchase in the setting itself being totally of limits to the jumper.
It totally should be, because everything there is totally chainbreaking, it also make actually buying things in the jump totally pointless.

>>48373032

No. He's average for a high-tier player. Actually average people are pretty substantially below him.

His actual build, if you wanted to replicate it, would be magic caster origin, skeleton, lvl 100, arcane caster class skill, necromancy, dark wisdom, abyss of magic, and divine tier equipment.

Not including all the support from Nazarick, obviously. He doesn't have spell-overcharging from Abyss of Magic though, but he does have the other bits.

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>>48373078

>>48373020
Wow I sure am glad we can get timelord tech in doctor who.

>>48373090
He's noted to be "weak" for a High Tier Player, because he wanted to play to a Theme rather than power-game.
The reason he's still a High Tier Player, is because he is good at strategy, and playing on the enemy's weakness, and because he spent more than a small amount of Money on Gatcha items, which got him some insanely powerful items.

>>48373109
>>48373078
Fucking Plebeians.
Thighs are what matter!

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>>48373002
Well, though I may specialize where you dabble I can at least appreciate your appetite. You're alright, Yoro; we can hang.

>>48372966
World Class Item means they can't scry and die me, so they fight on my terms, not the other way around. Which means they'll never bring anything to me that I can't deal with, otherwise I won't be there.

>>48373109
More please?

>>48373090
I thought the drawbacks in question meant that they wouldn't actually be specifically going out of their way to hunt you down? Why are you phrasing it like they're all actively hunting for you?

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>>48373109
Sometimes you need a bit of both.

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>Arguing for Boobs
>Arguing for Butt
>Arguing for Thighs
>Arguing for Legs
>Someone will likely argue for Belly, or Arms, or any number of other things
>People don't realize that Everything is great.

>>48373111
Way to reference the jump that people either barely talk about or express dislike with when they do.

Man, is this the next level of shitposting? People are legitimately trying to start and have real, relevant discussion, and then these fags have to spam images and talk about the same thing as they do every thread and drowning out any attempt to actually talk about things.

>>48373155
Justice what is life if we can't argue about things.

>>48373155
Yes they are all wonderful but wars must be waged over which is the best!

>>48373205
I know right? This happens every other thread these days.

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>>48373126
Much appreciated. Even though my own tastes are far more broad, I can appreciate those who specialize. I will bring many alcohols to this hanging we will do.

>>48373130
I don't have too much more that isn't either outright porn or furry to a degree that most will not like it.

>>48373136
>>48373155
I cannot argue with your statements in the slightest. I will be proud to call you brethren!

As a thief in Sly Cooper aren't a lot of the perks also things you can learn from the Thievious Racoonus/Jumpus?

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>>48373210
>>48373238
That's Fair

>>48373090
Hey Brellin, I'm reading though the LNs, slowly, but I'm not done yet. Just out of curiosity, where do you think I would scale in terms of Nazarick's Players? >>48372944
Where do you think Dis would rank in terms of the NPCs?

>>48373090
I thought high tier referred to level 100s. Either way, I had no idea he had Abyss of Magic. When was that even referenced?

You know what, fine. I give up. I'm removing the hardcap in Warframe, so everyone can go play around with Sentients or whatnot. I'll have to make a new Drop-In capstone because now that one's complete shit in comparison, but hey. Whatever. That's my problem for putting myself in this situation.

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>>48373061
Aye

>>48373090
Can we take drawbacks over the limit for no extra points? Would our Rival Player be part of the Rival Guild if we took both?

>>48373288
Look in RL MMOs, there are players who hit Max Level, and then there are High Tier Players.
The guys who live to Raid and for PvP.

Ainz was in the later category, the guild once faced a group of 100ish High Tier Players, and destroyed them all.

>>48373292
Some people just won't leave well enough alone. Sorry your attempts at balance just got met with anger, Red.

>>48373292
Damnit red why are you giving in to this samefagging shitposter?

>>48373292
You realize that most people aren't even going to grab Sentient tech, even if they complained about it? Because of any number of reasons, but foremost because it requires creativity and effort most people aren't willing to put forward, even if they want to be allowed to do it.

>>48373292
Eh. I'm happy, but you didn't need to, considering anyone who really cared would just have ignored the ruling anyway.

>>48373292
Thanks. I love you Red. I could probably make better tech already, but whatever.

>>48373327
>>48373329
>>48373343
Doesn't matter. I fucked up, limitations are wrong and stepping on people's toes. I should have learned that a long time ago, and at least one I can correct the mistake and let them do exactly what they want to do.

>>48373362
>considering anyone who really cared would just have ignored the ruling anyway
And oh look, justification for it. Because it wouldn't have mattered anyway. So what was the point of even trying?

>>48373292
Thank god you entitled little bitch. Fuck you for trying to put limits in a jump.

>>48373343
I'm fairly certain that upwards of 90% of the people who complained about it don't even know anything about Warframe, they just saw "you can't have this" and got pissy about it. Makes me wonder if you could trick people into taking trap options by saying you're not going to offer them, then "changing your mind" when people complain.

>>48373292
Now by "Play around with Sentients" does that mean I can just smash them all with a stick?

>>48373292
Must you always cave in to the loudest shithead in the bunch?

>>48373392
Stop falseflagging you fucking retard.
>>48373327
>>48373329
Do you really want more of this disgusting whiteknighting faggotry to infect the thread?

>>48373408
Reverse engineer them, mindrape them, become them, whatever. Trying to limit it to any one way is wrong and it's clear I only caused more drama.

>>48373392
Yes, anon. Fuck me for being an entitled little bitch. I'm sorry I offended you.

>>48373428
If the alternative is your salty diaper hanging around? Yes.

>>48373428
I want the maker to finish the jump with what they thought was good but no you faggots have to scream like howler monkeys if you can't steal every goddam thing in the jump.

Why not scream at worm for not letting you start as an endbringer?

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>>48373429
I was trying to be funny. I failed again it would seem.

>>48373390
You realize that reverse engineering the Sentients isn't something a jumper can do, even without fiat imitations given how advanced they are, and the fact that you'd have to get your hands on Sentient tech to reverse engineer it, implying you'd need to already be powerful enough to break them and understand their construction enough to actually take anything away of benefit?

No one will bother. By the time you could do it, you'd already be so powerful it wouldn't matter.

>>48373449
Because that isn't what this argument was about? Because we don't want omnipotence for fucking free no matter how much you yell about it, we just want to be able to actually fucking use our reverse engineering and technology perks on something for once?

>>48373445
What are you even talking about? No one was arguing that Red should have offered Sentient tech as an item or a perk or anything. Just that she shouldn't make it impossible to replicate with out of setting stuff. No one was even cursing at her until now. Does any sort of criticism of her jumps make you a shitposter?

>>48373503
Accusing anyone who opposes that criticism of being "disgusting whiteknighting faggotry" makes you a shitposter, yes.

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>Overlord (Manga/LN series) [Update]
Drawbacks: Rival Guild [1600]
Age: 31
Starting Location: Throne Room, Nazarick
Origin: Player, Fallen Angel [Freebie], Magic Caster
Perks: Tolerance for Evil [Freebie]
Personal Inventory [Freebie]
The 42nd Supreme Being [800]
Dark Wisdom [600]
Class Skills, Magic Caster:Arcane Caster [Freebie]
Specific Specialization: Summoning [500]
The Abyss of Magic [200]
Level One Hundred[Freebie]
Homunculus Maid [Freebie]
Specific Specialization: Necromancy [100]
Innate Talent: Enhanced Summoning [0]
Custom NPC [Demon, Magic Caster, Magic Item Creator, Use Any Magic Item, Class Skills, Magic Caster:Talismonger, Tolerance For Evil, Level One Hundred, Legendary Tier] [Freebie]
Golden Coins [Freebie]
Divine Tier Equipment [Freebie]
Ring of Ainz Ooal Gown [Freebie]

I probably will need to steal the Rival Guild's World Items before they can actually use them against us, at least most of them. As well as the Slane Theocracy's and maybe any other Player's that might have also landed in the New World before.

Our next step will be to assimilate most the neighboring countries before the Rival Guild has a chance to do so. Since I'm going to leave this world, I would like Momonga and Nazarick to have a place to rule.

Considering that the Rival Guild will be on the same strength that ourselves, they probably will be an Heteromorphic guild as well, and them allying and absorbing Heteromorphic and demi-human countries will be the most likely outcome.

>>48373527
Their reasons for 'opposing that criticism' was that 'her attempts at balance were met with anger' or that she was giving in to a shitposter. The conservation was perfectly civil, but Red is so fucking polarizing that apparently you NEED to either hate or love her.

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>>48373561
So, in a totally not intended 'humanity fuck yeah' moment, we will have to arm some humans and strength them (as well as use a lot of necromancy and summoning) to meet them in battle. I would like not having to use our World Items, so it will probably come down to strategy and killing off most of their strongest before they can do any damage. As well as sending a party to raid their base so they cannot resurrect their forces.

Once the Rival Guild's menace is deal with, it will be the moment to sit down with Momonga and teach him a few things about leadership and ruling a country. Convincing the NPCs to work for the future of the world might also be an important point. Sadly, doing it steady and calmly will be almost impossible considering the big ass war that we just had, but since all of use are immortal and I can come to check out after every Jump, it should be fine.

>>48373566
Were you not here for the last thread, then? Because there was much anger towards her. None in this thread, but that doesn't mean it didn't exist.

>>48373390
Please remember that earlier, no one who was bothered by the hardcap was yelling at you or angry at you.

Everyone was at least trying to be polite and nice, and you were told several times that they actually like you and your jumps, so please don't beat yourself up over it.

Even in this conversation, look how many people were being positive and encouraging about it.

Please at least try to notice the people that aren't being vitriolic to you. It really makes it seem pointless to show any positivity when the people it's directed towards ignore it in favor of focusing on the negative stuff.

>>48373584
I was here. The last thread was very civil towards red.

>>48373491
Because now there is no reason to even buy the perks just steal the tech for sentients and boom, you have the ability to make everything in the setting.

>>48373612
That's not true, you're full of shit.

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Whoever made the OP name deserves Brownie Points.

If you see this. Thanks again Worm for the companion.

>>48373584
Compared to this one? It was better by a country mile. There was actually a guy that used the typical Antired demeanor, no one in the last thread actually insulted Red. There was hardly any cussing even.

>>48373584
I thought generally it was better to leave old drama in the thread. I'm certainly not going to go into the last thread and memorize the arguments made to avoid triggering Redfags. Just trying to make arguments from a place of reason instead of asshurt should be enough, but apparently not.

>>48373632
Stop lying. The last thread I'd even hazard as calling outright nice to Red.

>>48373566
I'm just going to say - look in the /jc/ archives.

At this point I think it's a trained response.

>>48373624
I thought Sentient tech was super-clarketech? Wouldn't it take some seriously buffed intelligence/reverse engineering perks to begin to understand it?

>>48372966
So something being supplied as much power as a little star might help me reduce the effects of world class item?

>>48373632
Nobodies falling for it. Enough people were in the last thread to know the truth. I honestly think if the last thread was meaner to red, she wouldn't have given in.

>>48373292
Nice to see you cave into whining and samefagging. You gave good reasons for that limit and now you just gave in. The asshole already said he had no reason to argue other than principal and you still caved.

>>48373694
It was shit that happened in the IRC that partially influenced this decision.

All I'm going to state on this matter.

>>48373680
When has that ever stopped anyone from saying they used the scanner from iji to make an army of super robots before?

>>48373709
>IRC
Fucking irc bullshit again? What the actual fuck anon.

>>48373694
There were also good reasons for why it should have been changed. I honestly hope that her decision was based more on those legitimate arguments than because some asshole bullied her into it. That'd piss me off on so many levels.

>>48373712
Then clearly there's no actual point in the limitation, because those same people would just wank themselves as winning at everything no matter what.

>>48373709
And people say the irc illuminati anon is wrong.

>>48372966
So That skill, the "goal of life is death" or such... Does dark binding basically counter it?

>>48373709
>>48373734
Can we not fucking lie? It's bad enough that there's no right way to do this, we don't need outright lying to shitstain people not responsible for it.

>>48373709
Don't try to drag other people's name through the mud, please.

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>mfw I can't decide whether I want be a dirty commie or fascist in the Les Miserables jump

So question about the Halo gauntlet. If you take the perk that gives you blueprints for any settings tech and choose worm, what would happen? Would you get the blueprints and shit to make shards and endbringers? Or would it be more the high end tinker tech.

>>48373767
Hey red. I just want you to hear that some of us appreciate you and your work regardless of any of this stuff.

>>48373767
Then could we at least know the reasoning?

Don't have to name names.

>>48373801
No, you wouldn't get anything, really.
>Inb4 is nerfwanker anon
The reason I say this is because the "best tech" is tinker tech or Dragon tech. In Tinker tech specifically it's near impossible for even a robot to replicate the instructions. I have high doubts you'd ever get shards though.

However, if you picked up R&E Tinker shard your gonna have a blast post gauntlet with all the high end tinker stuff.

>>48373801
Probably just the tinkertech. After all, the text mentions "weapons, vehicles, and equipment". Shards and Endbringers are none of those. Well, you could /maybe/ make a case for Endbringers being 'weapons', but that's really stretching it, I think.

>>48373855
>In Tinker tech specifically it's near impossible for even a robot to replicate the instructions.
Man, Worm is such stupid bullshit.

>>48373780
Commie is the "perfect system" on paper, but it is doomed to failure because it ignores basic human nature.
Go Fascist. It actually works.

>>48373855
It's impossible as they're are limitations set by shards. Isn't the tech just from more advanced civilizations that got gobbled up by Scion and Eden and then had their info passed on through the tinker shards? If that's not true though I'll accept it. What would be a better setting to chose instead? I was thinking either 40k Necrons/ old ones or a DC comics setting.

Can Druids or Shamans do anything impressive in WoW? I need some nature magic and loathe D&D's Vancian shit.

>>48373882
Communism fails because it posits that all people are equal, when in actuality some people are just better than others.

Impose a caste system and you have a perfect society.

Rolled 117, 365 = 482 (2d605)

>>48373879
Shits weird, if my Wildbow-fu is correct, it's because tinker unknowingly out a bunch of uneeded shit in their tech, so really tinkers do extra work that really doesn't get used and makes their shit look like it makes no sense.

But you'd still get great blueprints considering the shit Defiant makes, like nanothorn blades, it's just gonna be hard to understand.

Or I'm way off base and it will give you perfect blueprints since the jump says after you leave peoples restrictions are removed (so in-canon thinkers can predict endbringer attacks)

Overlord Build
Background: Local
Race: Automaton (800)
Origin: Warrior
Themed Aesthetics
Shared Language

Talents:
Omnidexterous
Martial Arts Prodigy
Physical Powerhouse (700)
Detect Magic Power

Realm of Heroes
Level 100 (100)
Damage Focused
Defense Focused (50)
Magic Warrior (0)
Monk (-50)
The Long Game (-250)
World Champion (-550)

Items:
Hall of the Champion
Legacy Tier Equipment (-600)
The Anklets of Solundrum (-800)

Drawbacks:
Foreigner (-700)
Powerless (-600)
Wrath of Nazarick (0)

Rate my chances of taking the Lich King's skull.

>>48373893
Macross. Lord of Light. Any space jump.

>>48373899
You can't have a communist caste society. That's a contradiction as communisms founding doctrine and documents call for a classless society.

>>48373875
I was more interested in getting to understand how the Endbringers and shards work more than getting to actually make the bullshit that they are. Even just making the stuff that they're made of would be a great boost for my build, I have this whole robot body/ final form/ idiot magician combo going on. I fused with my ACU and then continued to make more of my ACU and fused with them for a massive spaceship alt form that's human sized.

>>48373893
Go supcom.

>>48373939
And that's where they fail. Because some people are better than others, and those people must lead.

Newest version of Adventure Time isn't in the drive. Anyone got it?

>>48373940
Should probably clarify, I wanna know how the to make the crystals so dense and how to spread a form over multiple dimensions rather than give out powers/ eat people for powers.

>>48373893
Theres Marvel (Iron-man suits, Mr. Fantastic computers that analyze shit in nanoseconds. If your going comic)
Warhammer 40K necron would probably be good.

I chose Blame! as mine, because Level 9 Safeguards, cybernetics augments that can survive sun temperatures and crazy high calibur weaponry are amazing. I've seen people compare these guys to Forerunners, with the odds betting on the Megastructure.

>>48373939
Humans are inherently hierarchical, like ants. We need an authoritarian regime to put us in our place in order to function as a society.

>>48373931
Fucked up a wall/10.

>>48373896
>Druids
If my WoW-fu is correct, I've heard they're really good at managing liquids, but nobody can ever remember their names.

>>48373817
Let's not say things we can't take back.

>>48373836
Honestly? Part of it is realizing there is nothing I can do or say that would convince people that it would shatter intra-jump balance into time pieces on account of trivialization if I removed the hardcap. Part of it is realizing people will try to wank workarounds anyway, like the Halo Gauntlet and there is nothing I could say that would be accepted.

But in truth I'm just sick of all this complaining that comes from nothing being good enough. So it's honestly easier to just lift the cap, let people do whatever they want, and move on. I was hoping it would quell some of that.

>>48373980
Speak for yourself, anon.

>>48373988
Mind elaborating on that? That's not very helpful.

>>48373961
You get all the SupCom stuff, apart from those alien guys shit, through the scenario anyway. Didn't see much point in using SupCom.

>>48373976
I thought DC would have been a better choice, Green lantern batteries, interdimentional ships, Red room tech. Although Ben 10 might be a good place to use. Most of the stuff shown in ben 10 are basically weapons or some self advancing super ship.

So I'm in the stargate jump, what kind of stuff can ancient tech do? I was thinking of going to atlantis and trying to get the city but all I really know is that it has pretty good shields and great batteries.

>>48374003
You don't know what you want, bitch, I know what you want, and I'm telling you that you want an authoritarian regime to put you in your place. Now get on your knees.

>>48374011
Bones and various weapons/magical items will be shoved up your anal cavities and will have forced intercourse with you, quite roughly against the wall of a structure. Out of 10

>>48374038
A-Anon-sama you understand me so well.

>>48373968
The crystals aren't really dense... They're overlapping multiple dimensions over the same area. The crystals themselves are weak as shit.

Basically all the good stuff from Worm comes from bullshit dimensional stuff, so knowledge of that is really more what you want instead specific tech blueprints. But anyway, you might get some idea on how to work with that, with the high-end Tinker tech.

Personally, I use SCP-178 to get hyperdense metals and use that for my form.

>>48374046
Got it, you don't actually know what you're talking about.

>>48374002
Things can always be better. There will always be things that people can see as issues even if they like what they're given. Nothing is perfect, everything and improve, and everyone wants to see the things they like be made better.

>>48374059
Ah ok, I always thought it was just hyper compressed matter that made up the endbringers. Speaking of SCP what would happen if we put a chunk of an endbringer in SCP 914, or if we put a cauldron vial/ some tinker tech.

>>48374094
Not at all, no. I'm just fucking with you.

From what was said earlier, though I sure as hell wouldn't bet anything important on you.

>>48374002
>Let's not say things we can't take back.
Too late, I already said I love you earlier in the thread.

>>48374108
Don't console the spineless bitch. She gave us what we want, I'm just pissed it took this long.

How tough is red matter from Equivalent Exchange? What can it do as a material?

>>48374166
Don't pretend like you actually wanted it. You weren't here when everyone else was arguing for it. You just want to take credit for it as antired to debase anyone on the same side as you. Because you're falseflagging.

>>48373940
>>48373968
The reason why you most likely wouldn't get Endbringer knowledge is because those things are pretty fucking scary, If I remember correctly their just shards taking on a form, and shards are just about the most technobabble, borderline magic-but-not-magic thing in all of Jumpchain. Everyones powers in that world stem from these shards, they have shit like infinite multitasking, insta-win buttons and such.
Personally I just rather get an angel form and use Broodmother from SCP to create a bunch of Angel monsters loyal to me. Trust me, as a craftsmen jumper I love shit like the Endbringers, creating abominations are my past times.

In regards to this>>48374016
I just like Marvel because of the BS like Ultron, the Phalanx, the Skrulls, and stuff like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odU1bHaYNDQ

>>48374174
The end tier stuff, Gem armour is capable of negating all damage so long as you have stuff to burn. Red matter is a tier below, while it doesn't reduce all damage to 0 damage but it gets it very close.

>Red Matter Armor is an upgraded version of Dark Matter Armor that offers 90% damage reduction to the player, instead of the 80% provided by the Dark Matter Armor.

From the Wiki. http://tekkitclassic.wikia.com/wiki/Red_Matter_Armor

>>48374118
That's the danger of SCP-914, no one really knows. You can put a gun in there on very fine and get a weapon that fires enough gamma radiation to disintegrate everything in its path.

>>48374002
>changing jumps because waah waaah people are yelling at me
Leave, you useles shitbag. Fuck you for this multi-thread shitstorm, have the guts to stick to a decision.

>>48374245
Put in a miniaturized version of a Nova cannon, or even a full Necron ship just for fun. Nothing could ever go wrong.

>>48374252
Try harder. Actually, stop trying, and kill yourself.

>>48374118
At that point, bobs your uncle with what you get. But SCP-914 can be a dick about it, so long as you treat her nice though you should get something amazing maybe even turn her into a spell via Crimson Saint and give her a body via Ensoul to get on her good side. Because 914 is the most bullshit thig ever. A regular gun put in there once was able to shoot compressed air at about the pressure that dwarfs the suns core exponentially.

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>>48374252
Kill yourself faggot.

>>48374252
>stick to a decision, get yelled at
>change your mind, get yelled at
Clearly the only winning move is for everyone who makes Jumps to just stop.

>>48374285
With the way people are treating content creators I'm not surprised.

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>>48373272
Not Brellin, but Realm of Heroes + Lvl 100 + World Champion would probably put you above Momonga on sheer skill. A shame that you don't have Divene Equipment, in which case you would probably be even stronger than Touch Me (best player in the guild and one of the best players in the game, but you probably know that).

Also, if you don't want instant death and mind-control, go for Undead and pick a Divine set. It will be tailor made for you, highly buffing you as well. Then get a World Item from Nazarick's Treasury (they're partly yours, and Momonga is a push over when it comes to his friends, he will probably give all of them to you if you ask it) to protect you from other World Items.

The Bracelet gives you literally nothing.

>>48373893
Blame! and Halo have some pretty powerful tech.

>>48374118
I'm gonna guess the Endbringer chunk becomes a hugely dense crystalline superorganism that'll rapidly grow and spread out over all adjoining dimensions. I suggest you run at that point, let the Foundation deal with it. Putting living things/formerly living things in 914 is Bad.

The cauldron vial becomes a unassuming clear-crystal ring, that grants a high-tier power related to whatever the recipient thinks of when putting it on (though it might manifest unpredictability). The power is lost when takes off, but a new power can be gained whenever it is put on by anyone.

Tinkertech depends on the particular piece. Probably something related, but Anomalous and even more bullshit.

Of course, what you get would be different every time you put something in. But these two seemed interesting.

>>48374285
That's just antired, everyone can and should just ignore him.

>>48374303
Maybe if they didn't make shitty decisions no one would yell at them. Ever think of that?

So I want my jumper to create/upgrade two unique weapons, one being a ranged option, and the other being melee
For the melee I want it to be a Soul Eater weapon and a Keyblade, but I don't know what else I could upgrade it with.
The ranged weapon is something I haven't the faintest idea about, and I could use some assistance with potential upgrade combos.

>>48374245
Putting living things in it are super fun. They breached containment and decided to not do it ever again because the result was so good.

>>48374218
I adore idea of 90% damage reduction. THINK HOW GOOD THAT IS.

>>48374031
Anyone?

>>48374305
The Bracelet gives me nothing spectacular for that specific jump
But I'm 250ish jumps in, on a VERY heavily Melee Focused Jumper. My Strength is already complete bullshit, and it just doubled.

>>48374261
Do you want to blow up the galaxy? Because that's how you blow up the galaxy.

>>48374349
Actually, Life Gem is way better. You can never die as long as there is matter to regenerate the damage to your body.

>>48374340
Samurai Jack
Lord of the Rings
Brutal Legend
Sly Cooper
Bayonetta
God of War
Percy Jackson
Ratchet & Clank
Sburb
Muppet Treasure Island
Changeling: the Lost
Sherlock Holmes
King Arthur
Magical Girl Noir
Naruto
Problem Sleuth
Scott Pilgrim
Anarchy Reigns
RWBY
Akame Ga Kill
Harry Potter
Legend of Zelda
Mushoku Tensei
Kingdom Hearts

These are most of the Jumps with Weapon Upgrade options. What's the Soul Eater Melee Weapon gonna be?

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>>48374002
Well, different anon here: I think you're awesome too. Just now peeking at the thread. Not going to say what should or shouldn't be in it, just going to say to make it as awesome as you can, (as best determined by you)

>>48374349
The Gem armour is 100% damage reduction, although explosions still do damage for some reason so it'd probably best to stuck to Red matter. Or take the mod that lets you make quantum armour and find a way to give it infinite charge. That stuff is literal "100% nothing can kill you so long as the suit is powered" armour.

>>48374382
Huh.

Question. How would that and Dark Binding work against Momonga's "The Goal of Life is Death" or something, the "This makes death effects delayed but they will bypass everything. EVERY FUCKING THING"

>>48374340
Well, Ranged depends on what you want. If you're getting buff yourself, the Godbow from Tortall is cool as it scales to your strength... if you want something that fucks shit up with bullshit tech, Blame! GBE's have you covered. Girl Genius can get you some /weird/ death rays.

And pick up the Crotchshot Pistol (or import something), so you can shoot God in the dick.

>>48374330
Ever try giving them some good criticism and explain logically on why the decision is bad? No? What a shock.

>>48373574
Are you raiding their base with out of jump forces? Because if the answer is no you're not raiding anything. Nazarick repelled a raid of 1600 lvl 100 Players in canon, and the Rival Guild guild base is on par with Nazarick.

>>48374407
TGoALiD can canonically kill even things that are not alive, like the air or the ground. For the purpose of your chain, I'd say you'd still die and would need something like an extra life perk to come back from it.

>>48374387
Sword, but with that one perk that lets me make it look absurd so it already looks like a Keyblade before I import it into KH
My chain item for it is gonna be my starter's pokeball, because guess who's being converted into a weapon?

>>48374305
>A shame that you don't have Divene Equipment
Yeah, I've really wanted to see the rollout on stats for Divine Equipment. Every jumper has their own set of whizbang gear, and I'm curious about how mine would stack up.

>>48374431
Weren't the vast majority of those killed by Victim though

>>48374454
*and Rubedo.

>>48374431
>raiding the enemy guild
Nah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q

>>48374407
TGoALiD < World Class items, which means it's < Jump-chan fiat. Anything that protects against ID will override Momo's trick.

>>48374448
I considered grabbing Divine Equipment
But I really wanted the Bracelet, and I have my own Power Armor already.

Okay question time cause I started thinking about all the bullshit stuff I can throw into SCP-914, Jumpers who took 914 what did you put into it and what was the results. Did you break the universe by putting some Cinnamon Toast Crunch into it?

>>48374483
>not getting at that sweet, sweet loot.

>>48374497
I'm making the same trade-off with the Ring, and am mitigating it in the same way you are. I've got armor I've been working on for a good while, so I'm confident that'll work.

Plus I grabbed a couple of the top tier artifacts from FF VI, so I've got some juice.

>>48373685
Is it a magical effect specifically designed to protect you from other magical effect? If not then probably no.

>>48373759
..No? It kills everything in range and bypasses most magical protections. If you're in range and you can't lol-no instant death you're dead. Then again it's pretty obvious when it's happening and you've got about 12 seconds to run the hell away, so it's not *too* bad. Just knowing it exists at all is already halfway to countering it.

>>48373931
Your chances of taking out Ainz are roughly zero. You'll never be in a position to actually fight him without having to go through hordes of high level fighters first and you don't have the capability of stopping him from escaping via teleportation. You're set up fairly well for running away though, so long as you're game for spending 10 years looking over your shoulder.

>>48374507
Just easier to end their asses and be done with it. The return is high, but so is the risk. So you fact that in with the fact that there are still things out there in the setting wanting to fuck with you and eliminating one group of enemies, and their artifacts, from play as quickly as possible makes sense.

>>48373921
It's more like trying to teach 13th century england how to build modern day computers, iirc. It's DOABLE, but insanely difficult and you're going to have to constantly visit them to fix whatever they broke. Imagine modern IT but a hundred times worse. You can pull it off, but (almost) nobody bothers because it's a huge pain in the ass.

It's not actually a shard restriction, despite what fanon believes. There's a few other viable interpretations, but that's the one he used to describe it iirc.

>>48374502
I just developed it into a spell, and cast it on anything I want to substantially improve, from weaponry, to minions, to random objects in the environment like rocks, plants, or animals.

>>48374537
Is there any way to become an overlord skeleton like Ainz or is that blocked off completely?

Is there any spell in canon to make other people a slime or other race?

I read in thread that there was a world item that could completely alter the magic of the setting is that still around?

What do the gloves Aura and Mare have do?

I saw a statsheet that had momon the blacks stats and he had levels in a class called panty soaker, is that real?

>>48374557
Well, it's partly a shard restriction. Specifically, it's that a tinker shard's guidance means that a Tinket can get tolerances that are impossible for normal engineers to replicate. That's why if you film a Tinker as they build something and follow their example perfectly you still won't get functional tinkertech. A shard doesn't give you a general blueprint, it gives you "here is how to make the device using EXACTLY these tools and materials, and no others". Even if you reproduce the tools and materials they used, unless they were 100% atomically identical there will be problems, and given the sort of machines a TInker builds those problems will usually be enough to make it not function.

>>48374590
Just take skeleton and build the levels as race levels. Basically take level 100 and copy Ainz's own build and you become him, so long as you take the other perks like necromancy that is.

>>48374537
So, heteromorphic + realm + level 100 is gamebreaking.

What tier or rank of 100s could you reasonably face down if they were geared and you weren't? I'm just trying to get a sense of how much more powerful that stack, het+realm+100, is compared to a regular 100.

>>48374537
I'm fine not killing him. Slaughtering his minions through attrition, tearing down the foundations of his dungeon, and leaving the two of us hunting each other forever sounds fun too.

Brellin, if you're still around, I have a couple of questions about the Overlord jump:
1. How smart does Golden Mind actually make you? Can we get some examples of how that Queen used it?
2. How does it interact with The Long Game and Omnidexterous? I'm guessing that it buffs the former to even crazier levels of Just as Planned, but for the latter would it buff our mental multitasking skills?
4. How strong would someone with both Damage Focused and Monk actually be? As a level 100, I mean. Enough to take on a Dragon in a fist fight?
5. If we take 42nd Supreme Being and Rival Guild, will the Rival Guild have an equivalent to us, or will we be unique?
6. About how strong would a Dragonoid with Physical Powerhouse be?
7. Do we have to be a True Vampire to replicate Shalltear's blocking of a sword with only her nail thing?
Might have more questions later, but all in all I just wanted to say this looks really good.

>>48374566
>plants, or animals.
Enjoy your murder-monster abominations, I guess? 914 really /likes/ living things.

>>48374492
Thanks Anon

>>48374406
Quantum Armor, in Industrial Craft 2, isn't making you invincible. It instead negates damage below 33.3333 hearts or so. GraviChest plate, the upgraded version, has the same thing

So Industrial Craft is actually not that great.

>>48374557
Yeah, but the ridiculous thing is the 'even robots can't follow the instructions for their construction' which is actually retarded.

>>48374537
Assuming you can only have one or the other, is World Champion or a 300 CP or less Heteromorphic race better for a Level 100 + RoH Warrior?

>>48374635
They don't always come out horrible. Project OLYMPIA worked just fine. They just mostly come out as deadly super-monsters. You have to be careful about it instead of throwing Very Fine around willy-nilly.

>>48374537
Wait, but Dark Binding ressurects you even if you die, as long as you still got souls, no?

Would the Null Expel or Null Death from SMT or DDS work?

>>48374590
In order -

Yes, pay CP to get the skeleton heteromorphic race.

No. There are items however that can do it. Nazarick is implied to have at the very least books of the dead (skeleton race) and fallen angel feathers (fallen angel race). Keep in mind the item versions start you out at the scrub-tier for those races, and aren't remotely as good as the CP buys.

No. The item does exist but there is no indication in canon that it made the transition to the New World. Until and unless canon directly says otherwise it isn't there.

You mean the World Item gloves they wear that one time? They're called Avarice and Generosity (iirc) and they let you 'store' experience inside of them which you can then draw on later.

No. Whatever image you saw was fake.

>>48374612

I mentioned this before, but you could beat one-on-one no problem. Two-on-one gets dicey if they have good teamwork and a complementary build. Three-on-one is not impossible but it's highly likely you will lose. Four-on-one you lose every time.

>>48374623
How you plan on doing that on your lonesome with no out of jump abilities? You go near Nazarick you're basically toast. If you want to survive with powerless and wrath of nazarick/rival guild you need to run. Standing and fighting is a losing proposition.

>>48374690
>I mentioned this before, but you could beat one-on-one no problem.
Sorry, let me clarify my question.

If the build I suggested is naked, what kind of geared 100 could he or she stand up against? Do those odds still hold if all the opponents are in Divine Gear?

>>48374406
>>48374639

Oh wait, I fucked up. It's not 33.333. It's 33,333.

So thousands of damage...

It still can be overcome. I am sure there will be things that can overcome it in the high tier jumps.

>>48374690
Literally tear the dungeon down, then run away when they try to stop me. Assassinate their soldiers when they leave the dungeon. Lead armies of soldiers enhanced with my Bodyguard abilities and impossibly genius tactical skills, who are completely expendable. Politically maneuver the kingdoms of the world to tear Nazrick down. You know, use my perks.

>>48374690
>No. Whatever image you saw was fake.
>Panty soaker class isn't real.
My poor build.

>>48374748
>Politically maneuver the kingdoms of the world to tear Nazrick down. You know, use my perks.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

YOU POOR FOOL.

>>48374798
Yeah, he's delusional but leave him be.

>>48374627
In order -

Superhumanly smart. She was able to piece together critical secret information about a hidden group/plot within the kingdom without actually every directly interacting with anyone that would be involved in the plot that would have ever mentioned such things in her presence. She did this with basically no support, no lackies, and just via piecing together tiny little shreds of information. Canon in the light novels directly compares her intellect to Demiurge and Albedo.

Yes on both. It interacts tremendously well with them. It interacts particularly well with Bard, since Bards automatically know a bit (or perhaps a lot depending on level) about just about everything. The more information you have the better it works.

Depends on the dragon. You could smash down castle walls with your fists without trying hard. Then you start talking about skills.

Rival Guild is just as beastly as Nazarick is via jump fiat.

Depends on the level. Comparative to their peers? Tremendously strong.

No. Any race you could reasonably fanwank as having natural weapons such as claws could do the finger-nail parry. If you're level 100 and rocking out high-tier nullification (which you are if you have lvl 100, everyone gets it) you could finger parry as a regular human against anyone that wasn't at least Realm of Heroes tier.

>>48374690
Hey, I know someone kind of asked this earlier, but I'm wondering about it from a different angle. Heteromorphic + RoH + Level 100 + maybe Physical Powerhouse; In terms of lifting strength, what could you lift?

>>48374059
>Spoiler
…I think you meant SCP-170. SCP-178 is a pair of red and blue 3d glasses that show semi-eldritch observers who watch literally everyone, everywhere.

>>48374118
>what would happen if we put a chunk of an endbringer in SCP-914
They did something really risky like that once and put an instance of SCP-939 in there on Fine. SCP-914 killed it. Then they put it back in on Very Fine. SCP-914 spat out smoldering white ash.

Though that may be because 914 is allegedly the heart of an eldritch clockwork/mechanical god, and 939 may actually be creations of the fleshwarping god that the Broken God is at war with. YMMV.

>>48374798
The Long Game + World Champion. Impossibly good tactical ability plus battle precognition that gets stronger the more powerful my tactical ability. Add it to level 100, and I should be able to outmaneuver anything he can throw at me.

>>48374871
Ainz alone can depopulate a country. Hell his Horses could depopulate a country.

>>48374871
You have no block against Scry and Die. You're not gonna last that long.

>>48374653
Did you buy The Long Game? If so then World Champion by miles. If not then it's still better, but not to the same degree. It's a pretty massive skill boost and you get stronger, faster, and more agile the longer a fight goes on and the more enemies you face.

>>48374689
Are your souls that you bound there with you? I'm assuming yes since it's based on Alucard. In which case TGoaLiD ganks all of them too. Like I said just not being in the area of effect when the timer hits that 12th second is all you need to avoid it, and Momonga isn't terribly fast since he's a magic caster.

As for Null Death, that's supposed to be an 'absolute' protection right? If it's absolute then it's absolute.

>>48374724
Are you a monk? Are you good at hand to hand? Do you have World Champion which lets you overcome gear differences? The answer to those questions dramatically changes things. Assuming you can actually fight while naked you could still regularly beat one-on-one, two-on-one becomes *really* dangerous, and you'd better start running three-on-one because they'll almost certainly kill you.

>>48374748
How you going to tear down the dungeon? By yourself? You don't even make it past the first floor. You go inside, you die. Assassinate their soldiers? Most of them are expendable outside a core group. Even then they can afford to load down everyone with tons of high level expendable bodyguards. They roll deep.

Local soldiers? Worthless. Even if you tank for them they're not good enough to even get past the low level pop monsters that Nazarick endlessly spawns for free, they don't even make it past the first floor.

As for the kingdoms of the world .. again, how are they going to help? They're not good enough to tangle with Nazarick and any troop movement large enough to matter even the slightest bit will take months to get into position and will probably be obliterated long before it ever comes anywhere near Nazarick itself.

>>48374841
I see. By the way, correct me if I'm wrong, but Omnidexterous allows you to have the same amount of strength in all your limbs, right? What I mean is, if I could kick with ten tons of striking force, but only punch for two tons, I can now punch for ten tons?
Also, not sure if this has been asked already, but wouldn't Automatons naturally have the tireless part of the Tireless perk? Maybe not the healing factor, but they would naturally never get tired as machines, correct? Or am I misunderstanding something?
About how close are Ainz and I if I take 42nd Supreme Being? Good friends or something like that? Enough that the Rival Guild going after me would royally piss him off?
Also, thank you for answering all these questions by the way.

>>48374690
>If you want to survive with powerless and wrath of nazarick/rival guild you need to run. Standing and fighting is a losing proposition.
Speaking of running... I was wondering how survivable my build is.

Location: A stroke of Luck, The chance to Choose (as far away from Nazrick as possible.)
Age: 22
Local [Free]
Race: Slime [200]
Origin: Magic Caster
>perks:
Tolerance for Evil [Free]
Themed Aesthetics [50] Vanity
Shared Language [Free]
Innate Talent - Enhanced Summoning [Free]
Innate Talent - Physical Powerhouse [Free]
Innate Talent - Magical Powerhouse [100]
Innate Talent - Alchemist [Free]
Innate Talent - Magic Item Creator [100]
Innate Talent - Use Any Magic Item [100]
Realm of Heroes [Free]
Level One Hundred [600]
Class Skills - Rogue [100]
Class Skills - Arcane Caster [Free]
Class Skills - Divine Caster [50]
Class Skills - Talismonger [50]
Specific Specialization - Warding [100]
Specific Specialization - Summoning [100]
>items:
Golden Coins [Free]
Medium Tier Equipment [Free]
The Ring of Elru [200]
Companions:
Homunculus Maid [50]
>drawbacks:
Foreigner [+100]
Powerless [+100]
Wrath of Nazarick [+600]

So, with this, would I be able to use Warding together my magic buffing Ring to hide behind anti-scrying and use Rogue to hide and run from them for the entire 10 years, fighting them to disengage when they come up, and fleeing as much as possible?

Or should I just go with Rival Guild and take Friends with the Devil to hide behind Momo?

Oh, and how strong is Rogue compare to an actual Drop-In taking it?

>>48374883
Offensive Focused + Monk + Anklets means he doesn't want to get close to anything I'm leading. Magic Warrior + Long Game + World Champion means he's fucked if he tries to get to anything he doesn't think I'm leading.

>>48374914
World items are a hard counter to Scry and Die.

>>48374946
I meant literally tear down the dungeon. Level 100 Monk can crack castle walls. Realm of Heroes and Automaton both boost that, as does physical powerhouse and Offensive Focus. I'm going to literally tear chunks out of their dungeon.

>>48374867
>…I think you meant SCP-170.
Derp, right. Yes, the superglue, not the spoopy 3d glasses.

>>48374946
>The answer to those questions dramatically changes things.
Player, Angel, Caster with Divine and Arcane classes and Warder and Evoker specializations. If I kept range, could I take a few?

Is there any way to steal something from someone and have it become yours in every way? Like steal their love, steal they history, steal their car. All becomes completely yours?

>>48374690
I cannot survive rival guild joining with nazarick if i take powerless? even with a maximized build and fighting smart in the guild war?

>>48374748
>Powerless
>use my perks
>Powerless
>use my perks
>POWERLESS

>>48375088
Sburb classpect has you covered.

>>48375088
Not quite stealing, but Ravenloft Merchant capstone is pretty great for the occasion, as long as you're savvy enough.

>>48375107
Use the perks from the Jump. I thought that was clear.

>>48375088
love thief of heart. you'll want memory altering abillities wherever they crop up after that, also probably some mind control lawyer perks and businessmen perks if you want to take all their stuff legally.

>>48374860
Depends on your race. Lifting strength doesn't really scale with damage dealing however, especially when you factor in special skills. Ainz could lift a fully laden wagon off the ground one handed if we go by the semi-canon xover of Overlord and Princess Alita (spell check on that name) and he's a magic caster not aspected towards strength.

>>48374948
On omnidextrous, not quite. You do not suffer penalties when using multiple limbs to do multiple different actions. It doesn't suddenly give your arms the strength of your legs.

Yes Automatons do basically have the actual tireless part of the Tireless perk. However the tireless perk gives natural regen, which is something automatons are probably going to want unless they can heal themselves via other means.

If you're actually in AOG as a member Ainz will pull out all the stops to keep you safe and/or avenge you if required. He'll do his level best to resurrect you as well.
>>48374961
Your maid is probably not going to appropriate being constantly killed. God help her if Nazarick catch her and decide to keep her alive/torture her. As for running, you could probably do a decent job of it. Your best bet is to abuse teleportation to random teleport to different parts of the world every couple of days with no particular pattern. It will be extremely hard for them to lock down where you are at in that fashion. That said if they do manage to find you you're probably going to die. You can't hand in melee with a real fighter and Demiurge canonically has an ability to shut down teleportation in a wide area.

>>48374966
He sends 40+ level 90's at you when he sees you. At least of few of them will have the ability to lock down teleportation to prevent your escape via that method. If you stay and fight you die. If you run, well, you've left behind whatever force you were theoretically leading and now they're dead.

Your plans are running headlong into Demiurge and Albedo, whom will both be working to counter you.

>>48375088
Maybe Aschente from NGNL?
I'm not sure that's how it works, though.

>Update on Independence Day jump

http://pastebin.com/yUagVQ9m
>Gear and Drawbacks changes.

Depending on your opinions there may be an option to import or create an alien race that's part of the Resistance.

>All suggestions will be considered.

>>48375158
against Nazarick. You are one against all. Local help isn't helpful, so there is only you.

Has something changed on the drive recently?

For some reason, I can't look at Jumps on the drive past their first page unless I log in to Google. It just endlessly shows a loading message.

I haven't looked at jumps on the drive for quite some time, so that might be it.

It's not a big thing to be honest, but I never used to have to log in, it let me look at the entire file just fine before.

>>48375224
If you click pop-out you can see it without logging in but yes, I've been having that problem too.

>>48375001
You die. Going solo at Nazarick is a lose condition, do not pass go do not collect 200$. Doesn't matter how clever you believe you are. If you don't have out of jump powers and are working solo to try to directly attack Nazarick you die, end of story.

>>48375020
Oh god, no. You need to run. You have zero melee skills, if a peer level melee guy gets up on you you're toast. Magic Casters win fights via prep and being clever, if you're getting dropped in naked you need to leave.

That said one-on-one you could probably still win fairly regularly, but two-on-one is going to demolish you if you're naked and they're not (especially if one, or both, are melee or can lock down your ability to teleport).

>>48375090
Ah, no, if you're in AOG or somehow manage to worm your way into its good graces (like with friends with the devil) you could survive Rival Guild. You'd just need to hang out in Nazarick all the time.
>>48375158
The perks and items available in jump alone are not remotely enough to defeat Nazarick, or even to get past the first floor of Nazarick.

>>48375166
>Your maid is probably not going to appropriate being constantly killed.
Well, I'm basically carrying her around. So if she dies, I'm pretty likely to get shanked too.

The teleport spam was basically what I was planning on. But can I keep them from scrying on me and my maid, with my Warding specialty and magic boost and all...? Some spell like Mind Blank from D&D, maybe?

And again, how much would Rogue help in hiding from them/disengaging if they do come in range? Is it reduced in power with a Magic Caster origin instead or a Drop-In one?

>>48375224
>>48375247
Wait, it's not just me? You guys are experiencing this too? Weird.

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Soul Eater what's a good special ability for a shield? Would spider sense fit?

>>48375303
Absorption or reflection? That seems to be standard fare for shield enchantments.

>>48375277
The answer is maybe. You could do a good job of it, but Nazarick explicitly has a high level NPC whose sole job is to provide the scry part of scry and die, so it's not a definite defense by any means.

On the rogue thing you've got the skills and the abilities, but your stats aren't optimized for it. You're basically a rogue with stats geared towards being a magic caster and not, you know, a rogue. You're not terrible at it by any means, but you're not going to be able to hang with someone that is actually good at fighting.

>>48375278
Someone on SB was saying they had the same problem several days ago.

>>48374946
Hah. FUCK YOU MOMONGA, I GOT NULL DEATH!

VIVA LA SMT!

What's Momonga's range during the life thing?

I mean, I MIGHT be misunderstanding what it does, because wiki didn't explain it well. I understood it as "Your death spells have their effects delayed by 12 seconds but they bypass all resistances". That's not how it works?

>>48375262
If I have both Level 100 and Realm of Heroes as a Monk, would that make me as fast or faster than a Level 100 Drop In?
How much of a boost is Enhanced Healing Magic? Would 7th rank healing magic be as good as 8th rank?
Do Fallen Angels get enhanced debuff magic instead of enhanced healing magic?

>>48375303
That is the least stupid looking space marine I have ever seen.

>>48375262
Sounds like you either need to revise your perks to make it clear that they don't actually do what they say they do now, or wank your waifu a little less.

I'm doing a minor reordering of my chain, and want /jc/'s advice for where some jumps should go at what points.

To be more specific, the jumps I'm thinking of reordering are as follows:

26th Etrian Odyssey
27th Codex Alera
...
33rd Symbiote
...
37th Final Fantasy XIV

Any advice?

>>48374404
Well I WAS happy with the way it was before because everything was balanced with each other. But it's gonna be a fairly messed up product now, unfortunately.

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>>48375370

>>48375331
Hm. Alright, thanks!

Then it'll be a decade of paranoia, changing my appearance constantly, teleports, and an absolutely insane amount of warding/obfuscation spells. And possible stocking up an absurd amount of Talismonger stuff, just in case. Should be doable, assuming I don't snap.

I wonder if this the New World/YGGDRASIL magic system would have something similar to Anticipate Teleportation...

>>48375345
It delays a *single* death spell by 12 seconds, which then bypasses resistances. In canon he used it with Wail of the Banshee, which had a range of what appeared to be 200 meters or so emanating outwards from him.

>>48375355
Are you a drop-in? If the answer is no then the drop-in is faster.

Enhanced healing magic does what it says it does. You can't directly compare spells from direct tiers like you're thinking. Fallen Angels get enhanced healing as well. They can still heal, they just don't focus on it to the extent that regular angels do.

>>48375391
Cry harder dude. You're trying to fanwank and say that you could solo a dungeon that repelled 1600 max level players in canon. I've told people how to survive Powerless and Wrath of Nazarick/Rival Guild, and it doesn't involve fighting them directly.

>>48375432
Huh. Doesn't he know any targetted spells, though? Hm.

>>48375400
Then get to fucking work on rebalancing it instead of sitting there whining.

Not our fault you made an asinine decision.

>>48375426
It explicitly has delay teleportation, Ainz used it against Shalltear in their fight.

>>48375277

I think one of the biggest problems is that AoG (and Nazarick in general after all the work they put into it) is basically set up to deal with PvP.

While Momonga is not the best at it per se, he lead a guild that dealt with a lot of the bullshit that PvP entails, and Touch Me was especially good at it, I think? Momonga seems to recall various lessons or habits he learned from the others.

If you're going one on one, you can probably do just fine as was mentioned, but AoG's strength is the many layers of defense and the fact that they have NPCs and such specifically built to screw with or stop the usual bullshit stuff that PvPers like to use.

>>48375400
I feel like nothing's really changed from a normal jumping perspective though. It really doesn't make any difference to the normal anons.

>>48375448
Hot diggity the self-entitlement in this post.

>>48375455
There was straight up a guide he read on the internet that was called 'PvP for losers and noobs, literally anyone can do it.'

>>48375449
It does? Cool.

Does that allow you to detect when someone's about to teleport in too, or are there other clairvoyance spells for that or something?

>>48375455
Ponitto Moe, AOG's Raidleader, literally wrote the book on PVP. As in he actually literally wrote a manual on how to do it, which Ainz has both read and has copies of. Ainz is also stated to be a very *very* skilled PVPer. He might be shit-tier at actually being the leader of a nation but when it comes to pvp he's no scrub.

>>48375485
Not on the internet. It was written by his guilds raidleader, and it circulated only within the guild. Ainz literally still has copies of it.

>>48375448
Then maybe people should have thought of that before bitching for the sake of wanting Sentient stuff. So now you're left with me either leaving it imbalanced or stopping everything to redesign a significant portion of the jump to account for that kind of thing.

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>>48374798
I can already smell the Sasuga.


>>48374966
Yeah, no. Maybe with out-jump high-tier abilities you can do that, but if your current level was lower than a level 100 character, AoG is going to delete you. Ainz can summon a force of dozens (maybe a few hundreds) of level 90 min/maxed NPCs that could fight to a stand still with most level 100 characters. And they will come ganking into you by using their scrying NPC specialist and teleporting armies into your face with Shalltear.


>>48374370
>Strength based build.
Why.

Magic is funnier.


>>48375391
Nazarick was the strongest dungeon and was unconquered during the whole game, even after hundreds of players trying to raid it at the same time.

How could you possibly defeat it when a lot of top-tier players failed with no out-jump powers?

>>48375509
It really hasn't changed the balance at all though. It's still pretty well balanced internally. Not hard banning something doesn't alter internal balance.

Minecraft jump:

Drawbacks section says you can have max 600 cp from drawback. But you have a drawback that gives 1000 cp so how do things work?

If Ender Dragon annihilates any and all matter from outside of The End on touch, and phases through native stuff, how do you damage him?

Can you not take that drawback and find portal to The End through regular means?

Am I right in understanding that Cheat Mode is discounted for Builder, due to being subperk of a perk that is Builder discoutned?

>>48375455
>If you're going one on one, you can probably do just fine as was mentioned, but AoG's strength is the many layers of defense and the fact that they have NPCs and such specifically built to screw with or stop the usual bullshit stuff that PvPers like to use.
But I'm not trying to screw with them. I'm just trying to hide and run. And try be REALLY gud at hiding and running.

>>48375432
Just saying, if you're making a perk which says "you can take down any three people of your level regardless of equipment with humiliating ease," you shouldn't waffle and say "well, maybe you can take two, but it'll be hard." Or if you include a divine tactician power, a battle precognition power that can plot out an entire war, and a battle control power that can "literally" rewrite terrain and debuff armies, you shouldn't be surprised when someone interprets it to mean that you can wear down and defeat an enemy, none of whose members are superior to you in combat, over ten years.

>>48375511
>How could you possibly defeat it when a lot of top-tier players failed with no out-jump powers?

Copious amounts of wank with safe lube to prevent scorch marks.

>>48375509
Why do you think it needs to be changed? Most people CAN'T reverse engineer Sentient stuff even if we wanted to.

>>48375432
I'm curious, exactly how fast ARE Drop Ins? Monk says that at Level 100 even casual walk speed looks like teleportation. Does that mean that Drop Ins are even faster than that? That's...wow. I mean, I know it says blisteringly fast, but when you're even faster than that plus a RoH boost, it's not just speed, it's flat out blitz.
Also, Dragonoids apparently have sensory abilities? Does that just refer to their treasure sense, or something else?

>>48375509
Like two anons were bitching,.

>>48375545
Two anons bitching / shitposting and quite a few that were being polite about it, actually.

>>48375534
I like your style.

All this talk about Nazarick and here I am just opting out of Powerless and dealing with them in a sane, practical way.

Slam dunked the moon into the New World. I think that's 8 now?

>>48375575
YOU ARE WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS.

>>48375575
>spoiler
Damnit, Heavens. You have a problem.

>>48375511
Magic is Heresy. Warrior > Mage. Get rekt, nerds.

>>48375511
RoH + L100 + HR is "you're literally more powerful than should be possible for the game." Also, none of them were willing to devote ten years to slowly whittling them down through any means necessary, because they have lives and get bored.

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>>48375575
>inb4 you kill yourself and all Ainz's enemies
>inb4 Nazarick is still intact

Sasuga, Ainz-sama!

>>48375575
I didn't even need to read the spoiler to know what you were going to do.
Heavens, you need help, man. I'm signing you up for LDA, Lunar Destruction Anonymous.

>>48375589
HE CAN QUIT WHENEVER HE WANTS TO!

>>48375575
Don't listen to them, You're doing god's work! ASA would be proud!

>>48375527
>But I'm not trying to screw with them. I'm just trying to hide and run. And try be REALLY gud at hiding and running.

Part of PvP is FINDING players running and hiding from you.

AoG was very good at PvP.

>>48375498
>Ponitto Moe, AOG's Raidleader, literally wrote the book on PVP

I thought Touch Me was supposed to be their strongest PvPer, tho? To go along with that World Champion armor he wore?

>>48375509
Sentient stuff being available for reverse engineering shouldn't be taken as everyone reverse engineering Sentient stuff.
Just because it's possible doesn't mean it's something anyone can and will do as if it were a free perk.

>>48375522
>>48375541
Except now I have to:
-Alter Canon Companion pricing
-Change the Drop-In capstone
-Change the capstone booster itself
-Decide the new pricing on some items
-Rebalance the Warframes that can be augmented by Sentient stuff
-Rebalance Infested as a direct result to make sure they don't get diminished

It's not a matter of it being probable, it's a matter of it being possible, that is what needs to be balanced. I could leave it as is, but Drop-Ins would be gimped, Warframes would be OP, and a multitude of other things simply from the application of Sentient technology.

>>48375575

You definitely have a problem.

An amusing one, but a problem nonetheless.

>>48375396
Nobody gives a shit, they just want to keep talking about Overlord, try again next thread.

>>48375614
He's got the Ring of Elru. Everyone seems to ignore that World items make you immune to Scry and Die tactics.

>>48375614
>Part of PvP is FINDING players running and hiding from you.
>AoG was very good at PvP.

I know. Just mentioning that those 'main strengths' of layered defences and PvP-blocking NPCs don't actually do anything to me, since I'm not going on the offensive.

Now the finding me and stopping me from running NPCs are scary. But that should be blockable, I think? Every system I can think of that seems similar to what Yggdrasil appears to be, has ways to block scry-and-die tactics, even if they're not standard-use fare.

>>48375532
You got me on the World Champion bit, I'd forgotten that. Doesn't change the fact you won't be fighting three people and instead more like 30, or 50, or a 100+

The issue you have is that you presume to believe that a single individual is good enough to beat Nazarick, without access to out of jump abilities, at all. It doesn't matter how good a tactican you are if it is literally impossible to defeat the enemy, and it is. You walk into Nazarick? You die. You try to target specific individuals outside of it? Maybe that works the first time. There won't be a second time, they'll be rolling far deeper than you could possibly hope to deal with.

And that super strategy and planning is literally running head first into a pair of super strategists and planners.

>>48375543
Yes, they are faster than that. The whole 'looks like he's teleporting' thing was something Sebas did in canon. And he is, canonically, a monk.

>>48375575
See? When a person isn't obsessed with getting that extra 200cp by sealing their out of jump powers it becomes quite easy to deal with the New World and its related threats.

>>48375600
You're not going to be whittling much of anything. They will roll in groups deep enough that you can't fight, and if you continue to attack them they will eventually corner and kill you no matter how slick you think you are.