i want to play Dorf Fort but im afraid

>>48345284
Why?

>>48345284
Losing is fun

File: 6c9c0016e1b05965c890c8102b6fb752.png (764KB, 617x999px) Image search: [Google]

764KB, 617x999px

>>48345284
Do you need Aya-senpai to hold your hand, kiddo? She can do that for you.

Good don't play it, done whining about your "problem," dick head? Children are starving in Africa and you need emotional support to at a video game?

I sincerely hope you die of cancer at your earliest convenience.

File: reimu right before youkai genocide.jpg (198KB, 700x495px) Image search: [Google]

198KB, 700x495px

>>48345284
The quickstart guide exists for a reason you idiot. How about just not playing since you clearly are incapable of such a feat.

File: tears up.gif (144KB, 358x358px) Image search: [Google]

144KB, 358x358px

>>48345355
i'm afraid f losing my time, as in, have all the effort to install and shit just so i give up after not being able to play the complex thing.

>>48345381
loser

>>48345392
Y-yes.

>>48345402
>>48345437
fuck off bullies, bet y'all virgin

>>48345284
Why?

>>48345937
Are you a complete fucking faggot or what

It's a fucking videogame. Are you so afraid of wasting your own time realising you're bad at a videogame that you instead waste your own time crying about it on an anonymous imageboard?

Look up a youtube guide and do it you prancing lala homo man.

>>48345937
You literally just download it and click the exe, there's no big 'installation process'

File: 1466749788931.png (174KB, 416x396px) Image search: [Google]

174KB, 416x396px

>>48345402
>Children are starving in Africa
Jeez mom, chill out

File: adorable anime girl hug qt cute lovely.gif (3MB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 1280x720px

>>48345998
>you're bad at a videogame
No, i'm afraid of wasting energy discovering that the game is trash and its all just neckbeard maymays

>>48346005
what about the mods? heard i should download a Starter Pack or somesuch

I'm kind of in the same boat. It's big and confusing and I don't know where to start. I get as far as generating a world. At that point I have absolutely no idea what to do.

>>48345284

>>>/v/ is that way

>>48345284
Fuck off, mate.
Usually I'm all for DF threads on /tg/, but this fucking cunt just had to start the thread with absolutely nothing of worth.
>b-but it's a complex game, I dunno where to start!
JUST PLAY IT, YOU FAGGOT. YOU PICK UP A FUCKING GAME AND YOU PLAY IT.
Do you need a fucking tutorial in every single fucking game? "Press A to jump and B to shoot" - you want that? You want your personal fucking Navi who would shout "Hey, listen!" every fucking five seconds?
This is what current gamers are like - unable to figure out shit on their own unless they are being spoonfed by the game.
God bless games like Dwarf Fortress, Paradox strategies, classic roguelikes etc. At least these games don't assume the player is a retard.

>>48346316
not OP, but what I want is another steel battalion, a proper one not the kinect abortion.

>>48346316
>absolutely nothing of worth.

Why don't you contribut them fuckface? OPs ain't gonna do everything for you.

>Do you need a fucking tutorial in every single fucking game?
no cunt, only for very complex shit with no visual aid like this, why you so fucking mad? DF ain't you avarage flash game you know that.
Do you even know how to make a militia, cunt? How did you learned?
bet you think having a barely formed fotress killed is hilarious.

And rogue games are trash. and those games assume (and rightfully so) that the player is a fucking neckbeard

>>48346680
>rogue games are trash
I'll cut ya m8, right in ya cunt.

2/10, got me to respond

>>48345284
Play adventure mode with the wiki open, it's much less stressful than Fort mode, at least to me.

>>48345402
That didn't convince us to eat our vegtables, it won't convince us not to shitpost.

>>48347220
Okay why does the trip I used once not go away. Is it because I'm on a phone posting on the webpag

>>48345284
Use an older version before vampires and shit, back when goblin sieges happened regularly. And stop being a faggot.

>>48345284
Don't be, OP. You'll waste less time getting it set up and seeing if you like it than you will if you just worry and procrastinate about it.

>>48345284
Do it faggot

It'll be the best mistake of your life. Play it. You'll have loads of Fun. Bookmark the wiki. Watch some video tutorials. Find whatever strategy guide you can. Just make sure you play it.

Don't abandon your fort if things get tough. See it through to the bitter end. Even with the knowledge that it will die, do your best to keep your fort alive.

And when all hope is truly lost, make sure you go out with a bang and a flash!

Oh look it's yet another attention whore faggot acts like an anime girl thread yet again.

the game has a steep learning curve, you will die to things beyond your control, the controls are unintuitive. this is the tax you pay for the complex game

you'll need the wiki for starters, failing that a geology textbook. the game isnt THAT hard once you get a good grasp on basic mechanics, the biggest problem is not starving/thirsting/ambushed, if you can do that, then you can focus on making your fort self sustaining, everything after that you don't have to worry about yet

losing is inevitable, and fun. you will lose many forts will trying to perfect the perfect fort, this is natural and mostly unavoidable, as long as you don't make the same mistake twice you are learning.

be patient, don't give up when you accidentally open up a river and drown all your miners, and you will will get good at a /tg/ approved game

pay no mind to people who dont answer your question

>>48348713
Oh look it's yet another newfag cunt trying to be a bully.

This is just a df thread, animu girls are just for fun

>>48349061
!!FUN!! is definitely a key concept

>>48348944
Thank you.

Here is the objective truth about DF. It is not a hard game. The only difficult thing to learn is menu navigation, which after grasping the basics of using 'q' is pretty intuitive. The wiki exists and is very helpful. You will most likely lose to boredom unless you are completely inept or dig too deep. Also the mindset of enjoying chaos and accepting it makes for the most pleasurable DF experience.

Basically what >>48348944 said.

>stopped playing because my computer couldn't process Toady's monster of a game.

And that was before you climbing trees, dorfs writing novels, and w/e incredible shit he's putting into that thing

>>48346140
>What is Google? Come on guys why can't you act as my IT!?!

as long as this is a newbie thread for DF
why the fuck doesn't the 'gather plants' designation cover fruits laying around on the ground outside. There are tons of peaches and hazel nuts but I don't know how to effectively harvest them. I made a zone for picking fruit but that can only cover a given area and my plant gatherers will sit around with no job while there are still fruit laying in the zone.

>>48345402
They wouldn't be starving if we killed them all.

>>48351392

>>48346140
>No, i'm afraid of wasting energy discovering that the game is trash and its all just neckbeard maymays
nah, not even close
adventure mode is fun, and one of the hardest rouge-likes around
fort mode is autism: the game. it's easy to build some farms, build a well, and wall yourself off from any threat, anything beyond that is optional fluff and self given challenge. the game gets fun with those

>>48346680
>Do you even know how to make a militia, cunt? How did you learned?
I learned by reading the fucking words/keybinding on the screen and using the in game manual accessible by pressing [?]
retard

>>48351392
is your stockpile full? build some barrels/bins
otherwise they're probably just idling for some random reason like most dwarves do 23 hours of the day

one good way to practice building industry is to aim for a megaproject like building a pyramid out of soap

this needs a soapmaking industry, which needs a meat industry. it also needs tons of haulers, so if you can do this without destroying your fortress it usually means that you are doing pretty well

File: hardcoreplus.png (341KB, 750x2880px) Image search: [Google]

341KB, 750x2880px

>>48345284
PLAY IT FAGGOT!

>>48345937
>losing is fun
>loser
It's the whole fucking point of the game, it's the motto of the entire thing, you can't win, you just have a fun ending

>>48345937
>loser

Alright, this clearly isn't the game for you
Fuck off

>>48346140
>heard i should download a Starter Pack or somesuch

That's for scrubs
Take that .pdf guide (by the dev's brother I believe), link is on the /vg/ general. Keep the wiki close at hand. You can always ask questions on the general too

Once you get the idea and you get a fort with like 25+ pop it is time to consider getting Dwarf Therapist for easier management.

Using all kinds of mods before knowing the game is like using a crutch to walk before crippled

But then again, refer to >>48353941 and realise this game ain't for you

>>48346140
You can try the Lazy Newb Pack, I only use it for the dwarf labor screen and the texture pack I'm too used to it to stop now But if you're lame you can use it to cheat to learn and stuff.

>>48345284
I learned the game with vanilla DF and the videos of quill18 I think.
Was pretty easymode getting the hang of the basics that way.

>>48353887
>>48353941
>>48353978
Guise I think that's supposed to be the joke.

I learned by watching Joel play, but I don't know if I recommend that. He doesn't really explain things well because he wasn't trying to make a tutorial.
There's no shame in keeping the wiki open the entire time while playing, I'm kind of good at it, and I still need it sometimes.

>>48345402
>Children are starving in Africa
This is the oldest appeal to emotion in the book. Fuck those niggers, they have nothing to do with this and are completely unrelated to the topic.

>>48353614
You could equally make a soap industry through a farming industry, using rock nuts. At which point you need a cooking industry, to make use of the paste, and you might as well throw in some dimple cups and pig tails to get a cloth industry and avoid having fallow fields.

>>48345284
What have you got to lose? I mean, you're already a massive disappointment to your family.

>>48345284
>but im afraid
You should be.

>>48354972
It's a shit joke

File: [admonishing intensifies].png (579KB, 857x442px) Image search: [Google]

579KB, 857x442px

>>48345402
>Children are starving in Africa

C U C K
U
C
K

>>48345284
Fuck you OP, fuck you deep and hard. I have work to do and I've already downloaded the new DF and DFhack, made a world and remembered that aquifers are a thing.

>>48345284
Dwarf Fortress isn't even hard once you learn how to get past the ass backwards UI

>>48355648
Yeah, it's not difficult to play or learn, just waaaaaay overly complex in it's menu.

>>48345402
>Children are starving in Africa
Yeah, we should do something about people breeding when they have no means of sustaining the offspring.

>>48355123
You are a shit joke

>>48345402
let them starve

>>48348944
>>48350988
>>48355648
>>48355834

What about the micromanagement?

I understand where this "it's just the h̶u̶m̶i̶d̶i̶t̶i̶y̶ UI" meme is coming from, but even once you get past the UI, Dwarf Fortress isn't exactly a walk in the park. There are a million things that can go wrong in a fort. The longer you want your fort to last, the more of those possibilities you need to be prepared to face.

It's true that the primary barrier to entry in DF is the interface. However, the story doesn't end there. Once you master the UI, the game is relatively easy to play. Playing it well is another matter entirely.

I suppose another part of the idea is the fact that the people who perpetuate it are neckbeards to whom micromanagement comes naturally, but it doesn't to everyone. It's like someone with frighteningly good reflexes and coordination saying that fighting games are easy once you know all the inputs.

>>48355973
But that's just some of the fun when stuff goes wrong
also I use a mod that makes labor management for all dwarves on one screen, so I personally don't deal with as much micromanagement stuff.

>>48355973
D w a r f T h e r a p i s t.

The real pain in the ass is setting up your military, followed by keeping your stockpiles and workshops efficient.

I'm gonna do it guys! if you could send me a list of what and where to download that would be great, i'm dowloading this http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=7622 right now

>>48356038
Which mod?

>>48356101
It comes with the thing you're downloading anyway.

File: Layout3Vertical.png (48KB, 1024x854px) Image search: [Google]

48KB, 1024x854px

>>48356038
>>48356100
Dwarf Therapist helps with ONE aspect of micromanagemet: micromanaging your dwarves.

You also have to micromanage your farms, micromanage your military (as >>48356100) mentioned, and your architectural work, workshops, and stockpiles too. If you want to plan complex, multi-step projects, the amount of micromanagement increases even further.

>>48355973
Most of the micromanagement is avoided with Dwarf Therapist.
Can't really think of any other major micromanagement other than doing some complex stockpile/workshop linking

>There are a million things that can go wrong in a fort.
True, both most big problems usually have very simple solutions.
Indestructible bridges can keep any danger out of your fort
Food is rarely a problem considering how much a simple 3x3 farm plot yields
Drinks can be a problem but your fort can temporarily sin by drawing water from one of the caverns below

The only things that can really mess you up is a loyalty cascade (arguably a bug and seems to rarely happen in the last few versions) and FPS death

>>48356272
You have to micromanage your stockpiles? How? Or do you mean just queuing up product? And how is choosing what to build micromanagement, would that just be... playing the game?

>>48356297
sorry, not stockpiles, I meant workshops, but still, you micromanage stockpiles?

File: touhou.png (99KB, 450x281px) Image search: [Google]

99KB, 450x281px

>>48345937
>>48346140
>>48346680
>using neckbeard and virgin as insults on /tg/
>while posting moe
McFucking kill yourself, my dude.

File: dwarf_fortress_war_drakes_by_vanillafiction-d5siiic.jpg (604KB, 1024x2112px) Image search: [Google]

604KB, 1024x2112px

>>48356328
>falling for bait

At least you could TRY to turn this into a productive thread.

Post Dwarf Fortress.

File: 1457940221685.png (293KB, 640x480px) Image search: [Google]

293KB, 640x480px

>>48345937
>>48346140
>>48346680

Well done, guaranteed replies.

File: delicious magma.jpg (119KB, 1024x770px) Image search: [Google]

119KB, 1024x770px

>>48356352
Not Dorf Fort in form, but in spirit.

>GP error
>GP unable to accomodate graphics etc

wat do

>>48356289
What about the dreaded Tantrum Spiral? Vampires? Insanity? These are problems that have solutions, but if not properly handled those solutions can create more problems.

>>48356448
HUR DUR nvm

Ok gays, i'm starting! set most stuff for low.
so far so gud
How do i farm again?

I tried playing DF again recently and by far the biggest fort killers were werebeasts. They heralded the collapse of my fort more often than not.

>>48356038
>But that's just some of the fun when stuff goes wrong
I never said it wasn't. Just that the game was hard.

File: GRONK.jpg (297KB, 566x1233px) Image search: [Google]

297KB, 566x1233px

>>48345284
I watched Joel (vinesauce ) play it for around 6 hours, then decided I'd learn. Opened the wiki and booted it up.
I'm bad, but it's very fun.

Just play the game, who cares how hard you lose man! The best part is when shit hits the fan

File: 1432566368645.jpg (87KB, 582x600px) Image search: [Google]

87KB, 582x600px

>>48356463
>Tantrum Spiral? Vampires? Insanity

Memes all of them, talk to me when your fresh water reservoir overflows and a dorf gets sucked down the well to his death. Never getting that pick back or getting rid of the ghost in your well.

>>48356463
>Tantrum Spiral
I'm rather sure that's not even a thing any more.
Dwarves are easily satisfied nowadays.

>Vampires?
A problem, but not a fortress-ending one.
A single death every now and then is hardly a problem.

>Insanity
You get to know what dwarf is at risk of it beforehand as they slip into a pre-insanity condition, so it is announced.
3 of the forms of insanity are entirely harmless to anything other than the dwarf itself. The 4th one is only a problem if the dwarf is strong and armed.

Any of these things are minor setbacks and can only become a problem if you let it.

>>48356524
>getting rid of the ghost in your well.
Just engrave a memorial. The real problem you have on your hands is the contaminated well.

How do i look what's below me?

>>48356743
how the fuck i set jobs? where is that >>48356183 thing?
no one is channeling, how do set jobs without losing an hour reading all that shit?

Fuck this game it manage to be far more autistic than minecraft, truly only a virgin neckbeard could play this trash, literally feels like working on a job

>"bwaaa I don't want to read"
Then don't play it.

>>48356847
press u - unit list
press l - manage labors

>>48356875
OP is a baiting faggot, but DF really is intimidating as hell, whether you're a complete newb or just picking the game back up after a couple years.

>>48356847
And are you sure you're setting the channeling right? How are you trying to?

>>48356902

>>48356847 is incorrect. It's actually
>"u" for "unit list"
>"z" for "view unit" (counterintuitive, I know)
>"p" for preferences. +/- to navigate skills menu and "enter" to enable labors that must be enabled. Once you get to this point you can press c/l/m to show or hide combat, labor, or miscellaneous skills.

>>48357148
but... I opened up the game to get to the menu where I pressed u and l. I just tested that because I wasn't sure what it was before.

Does it have a quadratic tileset as standard now?
That the standard tileset is rectangular annoys me. And using graphics packs some other stuff almost always looks weird

>>48356743
press 'k' that spawns a cursor in the form of a yellow x that you can move around with the arrow keys. And on the right side of the screen you have a list of what is lying on the tile the x is on.

>>48357148
>Once you get to this point you can press c/l/m to show or hide combat, labor, or miscellaneous skills.
Sorry, my mistake. The c/l/m to show/hide skills on the "General" page of the unit menu, which lists the dwarf's skills. The correct way to get to the menu where you enable/disable labors is u > z > p > l.

>>48354972
All fortresses eventually have to succumb to either fun, or fps death.
In my last fortress, I channeled the ocean I embarked against down into the circus resulting in both.

>>48356584
I need to throw a vampire into a well one day so I can make a vampire fort.

>>48357285
Go into /df/data/init/init.txt and change [FONT:curses_800x600.png] (or whatever is there) to [FONT:curses_square_16x16.png]. If you also do this with [FULLFONT:blahblah...] you will get the square tileset in fullscreen mode, too.

>>48357504
Neat. Thank you very much!

>>48345402
sorry mom

>GP error
>GPU can't accomodate shit, faggot

having to use ascii, the job management is complex af, can i fix that with a mod? they tld me the lazy noob would have that already

>>48356902
i see,

>>48353685
the menu part is so on the nose

>>48357612
What exactly do you mean? You mean the job assignment, like Dwarf X can do woodcutting carpentry and architect or something else?

For the job assignments you can use Dwarf therapist

File: lazy dwarf, adventurer's guide.png (89KB, 1841x484px) Image search: [Google]

89KB, 1841x484px

>>48357612
I have 57 slate, is that normal?
do i build capenter stuff with wood or granatie? what do i do with those blue garnites i found?

guys help

>>48357612
If you have the LNP, then open Dwarf Fortress through the LNP client. Then, one you've loaded your fort, go back to the LNP client and use it to open a program called Dwarf Therapist. Once Dwarf Therapist is open, it should connect to the game program and will display all of your dwarves, their mood, and their skills on a spreadsheet. Click the box representing the skill that corresponds to the labor you want to enable to enable it. Once you've done that,


>>48357712
>I have 57 slate, is that normal?
Yes, that is very normal. Slate is a dirt cheap stone that you can find nearly anywhere.

If you did the quick-embark, you should have embarked everything you need for carpentry already. Set up a carpenter's workshop and set some jobs for whatever you want to make. You'll need wood both to set up the carpenter's workshop, and (durr) to make things there.

Any gems you find can wait until you start making crafts. Once you start making crafts, you can set up a jeweler's shop, where a dwarf with the gem cutting and gem setting skills can refine the gems and encrust the crafts you have made with them, to increase their trade value.

I'd recommend watching CaptainDuck's video tutorials on youtube.

>Your autism will never be severe enough to allow you to enjoy dwarf fortress
It's a good thing and a bad thing

>>48357957
This, fuck this crap may as well play minecraft. uninstalled.

Those memes, all lies. only fun if you're a turbo neckbeard

>>48358078
Minecraft is worse than DF senpai desu
At least in DF shit is happening and there's a challenge.

Minecraft is literally just playing with blocks like a child, except they're not even good blocks like LEGO. They're some cheap knockoff blocks that your parents bought from a bargain bin.

>>48358145
Minecraft is "alright I guess". DF is "Armok tier".

Okay. Four years ago someone linked me to a DF story on the wiki. I read it. It was good. I read more. I went on the forums and read the old classics like Headshoots, Boatmurdered and Battlefailed. I wanted to make stories like these.

I downloaded the game and Therapist. I sucked hard. Couldn't even figure out how to build buildings. I wanted to give up, but I remembered those stories. So I watched some Youtube tutorials and made my first real fortress. It died when the first goblins came. I got better and better with every lost fortress. I became really good at the game, especially Adventure Mode.

I wrote those stories I wanted to write. I built a reputation for saving doomed succession forts. I was the first player to ever wall off hell, flood it, drain it, and grow trees in it. I had Fun.

From the depths of noobery I became a great player. I BELIEVE IN YOU OP

Have just started playing again because of this thread. Seems like trees are multitle now and even bear fruits.
Question being: How can I get said fruits? I tried gather plants but that didn't highlight them. Do I have to chop down the tree?

>>48358484
Step one, I think, is to get a stepladder so that your dorfs can reach the fruit.

Other than that I don't remember.

>>48358730
Just looked in the wiki. The stepladder is pretty much it. If you have one and a fruit bearing tree is in a plant gathering zone a dorf will fetch the ladder and get the fruit.
Thanks!

>>48352819
Though I suspect newer versions will have sieges that actually destroy parts of your fort. Goblins can already climb walls.

>>48359329
Whoops meant it for the one above this post. Fucking mobile

>>48348944
>>48350988
>>48355648
>>48355834
This is basically right. I don't understand the people who ragequit DF because they can't grasp the interface immediately. Is anyone with an attention span longer than ten minutes an autist now?

>>48346210
There are a lot of good tutorials out there, and the wiki should help if you get stuck on anything. Remember that you can pause the game and take your time figuring out the interface without worrying about disaster happening in the meantime. I would write my own advice, but I'm pretty sure that better advice exists elsewhere on the internet already.

B A I T
A
I
T

>>48361049
No, OP is just baiting. The more perfectly anyone seems to fit infuriating stereotypes, and the less they seem to match the general board culture, the more likely it is that they're deliberately putting on a character and trying to raise hackles.

>>48357712
Actually, battleaxes are shit at chopping wood. And woodcutting axes are shit at cutting people.

>>48358433
>was the first player to ever wall off hell, flood it, drain it, and grow trees in it
Holee fuk. Tell us, anon. Storytime.

File: 1280px-Mouse_litter[1].jpg (255KB, 1280x867px) Image search: [Google]

255KB, 1280x867px

>>48345402
>Children are starving in Africa

Sometimes r-selection strategy bites you in the ass fampai.

You could play rimworld instead.

>>48363256
^
It's a lot easier and a little easier to get into.

>>48345284
Just fucking do it bitch.