Kobold Thread? Cutebolds welcome too

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>>48339703

Can't wait for all they furry porn to not get deleted

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>>48339751
I wouldn't call them furry.

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Cutebolds are the result of natural selection, due to adventurers being less willing to kill cute monsters.

>>48342299
That's absurd. I'd still kill that

>>48338825
There's some weird dissonance in some of the material about the alignment of Kobolds. For instance, if you look at D&D 3.5's "Races of the Dragon," the book with the most kobold related information, they read almost completely as lawful neutral. A heavy emphasis on the community, family and ritual, a justified historical hatred of gnomes (which is reciprocated harshly), and given their tendency towards subterranean expansion, they don't necessarily clash with other races unless they're in the wrong place. Kurtulmak's (and by extension, kobolds in general) status as Lawful Evil doesn't really seem too born out. Gnomes and Dwarves like traps too, and they get to be good by default.

>>48344630
They're supposed to be extremely xenophobic, as well, attacking other races on sight.

Of course, I've read that material too, and it doesn't really hold up to scrutiny.

What do kobolds eat? How do they find fresh water? If they have so many raw materials (ores, gems), why aren't they constantly under attack, instead of being seen as vermin by other races?

Furthermore, why aren't kobolds ever a dangerous force in any setting I've seen? They're cunning, they have strong traditions and tribe bonds, they have massive amounts of wealth. Yet, in every setting, they're below all the other dragonlike races in society.

It makes me want to write a setting where kobolds consider themselves to be the greatest of the non-dragon races, and have some kobold religions encourage kobolds to kill and eat dragons. Having them as this semi-terrifying, individually weak threat that wreaks havoc just by existing.

>>48345202
Once you think of Kobolds as Cave Africa it all makes sense.

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>>48340402
Depends how far back you set the time machine.

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Has anyone read the Ren of Atikala series? The first book was free and I enjoyed it, was wondering if the others are worthy buying. I really enjoyed the way it showed how their society worked, and how it managed to show how a largely Evil race can come to be while seeing themselves as in the right. Them seeing humans, elves, and the like as the monstrous races that they treat the same way PCs would generally treat kobolds or goblins was probably one of my favorite bits, even if it's kind of simple.

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Pixelbold

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Aztech bolds

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Aztechnology bolds

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Lewdbold

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Cyber bolds

>>48348418
We need more lewdbold.

Has no more

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Paladin bolds

>>48342299
Of course, everyone knows anything an adventurer does not kill they fuck or sell.

Which means cutebold sex slaves

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>>48349034
>>48348418

>>48340402

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>>48345313

Best kobolds.

>>48348440
He's gonna have some trouble with those goggles.

>>48351398
definitely

Imagine a band of heroic kobolds, a la TMNT.
The Kalamitous Kombat Kobolds of ... Calcutta, or something.

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>>48342299

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>>48354095

Kobolds in my setting are pretty worthless. They die in droves, their society is in shambles, and most people view them as pests. Cockroaches that can talk, basically.

My players kept running into one particular Kobold, and they kept sparing his life. At some point he became a friend of sorts.

They had no idea it was actually Kurtulmak himself, disguised as a mortal, until later on. Now that an over-god has decided he wants to kill half the gods, they're actually fighting to help poor Kurtulmak survive, and improve himself. It's been fun so far.

>>48348418
What a little slutboy...

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>>48338825
>made a small society of barbarian style humans that lived alongside kobolds and gnolls
>excepted my pc's to go full murder hobo on them since I'd designed them to essentially be a kill fodder faction
>they end up siding with the ramshackle faction and helping them expand

I'm proud of em but this also gives me a lot more work than I needed

I need suggestions for kobold NPCs in Prohibition-era inspired fantasy. The role I have them playing is largely based on Chinese immigrants.

>>48354425
>The old god-in-beggar's-clothing thing actually worked
Fuckin' neato. Sounds like a good campaign.

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>>48351428
I think that one's female, though it's hard to be sure with kobolds.

>>48357268
Well, it didn't, from his perspective.

He was trying to improve the lives of Kobolds by working directly with them. Unfortunately, literally every single one of the groups he joined wound up with most of the members dead, and he tried to do the disguise thing for almost fifty years.

There was another plot point where the players had the opportunity to kill a god with no consequence (my world's cosmology is a bit fucky but it makes sense in context). Poor Kurtulmak personally requested that they kill him so somebody more competent could take his place.

He's in much better spirits now, thankfully.

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>>48361642
You've got me interested now. Please, tell us more...

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The ORIGINAL Kobold before all these other lame RPGs started copying World of Warcraft's ideas.

>>48362744
First doesn't mean best. In this case it's worst.

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>Gonna get us somma them there adventurers

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>>48354095
Umm this is a troll from the spiderwhick chronicles

>>48364813
Also wasn't first

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>>48359448
>>48350163
>>48348418
>>48342299
>>48340402

REMINDER:

GRONK

>>48365771
Mythological goblins by another name is what I was referring to by "first." They're worst, and kobolds have gone steadily uphill with each new version after that.

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Any recent tales, escapades or screencaps to share?

>>48362436
Well, in my setting, all the gods have rooms in this big temple at the center of the world, which they get complete control over. This temple is ludicrously magical, and gods which try to defy its rules wind up dead (or worse). Every few decades they have a big festival where they all show up in their temples and let their followers in.

Secretly, this festival was actually because the gods all had to go to a giant performance meeting with their own creators, twin over-gods who made the world and everything in it. Occasionally, however, the over-gods fail to show up. In these cases, mortals find a bunch of powerful artifacts, all of which they can use to kill gods at the meeting. The gods, naturally, believed this to be a form of punishment for bad behavior. Kurtulmak believed himself to be the major cause of this round of punishment, a theory which most of the gods agreed on—he was, by far, the most useless and pathetic deity in the entire world.

Thankfully he escaped death because the players wanted to kill somebody else instead. Not that they could have killed him in the first place—the previously unknown third overgod sort of crashed the party. #3 then decided that there were way too many gods, and decided to kill half of them. Being a fair soul, he gave them 256 days to "impress" him before he made his decision, which has sort of thrust the entire fucking world into chaos. The fact that he significantly reduced the power of all the gods so they'd be on equal footing actually made everything worse.

I have a setting guidebook that I'm working on if this cosmology sounds interesting. It's nowhere near polished enough to post yet but I'm plodding along.

>>48362744
>bait.jpg

>>48368237
Keep plodding then, it sounds amazing.

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I rolled up a kobold as a character a while back for a campaign a friend started. It's been a blast.

I'm satisfied with myself for playing him in such a way that he naturally acquired a reputation amongst the party as cowardly and neurotic. I imagine he's actually been a bit of a pain for the DM, as he wants NOTHING to do with most plot hooks, as a consequence of his character, but he tends to get dragged into them by his party members- physically so, in one recent case.

I wonder how many members of the armies of devils and demons we went over will remember the puzzling sight of a minotaur enchanted with flight, soaring over them while clutching a screaming, swearing kobold in one arm, like he was a football.

>>48370432
That sounds amazing. Storytime?

>>48368237
I would love to hear more good anon.

what about kobold stand-ins?

Yinglets?

>>48340402
>lizard
>tits

>>48376230
Cute
porn when

>>48376083
Dont even start, anon.

Are there any settings where kobolds are gnome-like spirits and not lizard people?

>>48376230
So what's the story with this one?

>>48385615
Clearly we can never know.

>>48385615
A FurAffinity story book cover commission for someone. I don't think there's more art related to it.

I've always imagined kobolds as short, dingy dog folk who are afraid of everything unless they are in packs.

Lizardfolk don't feel right.

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>>48371578
>>48369707

Have a shitty WIP.

I'll post a much improved version tomorrow evening, hopefully. I'll have a lot of time to work on it in a car.

>>48394545
Holy shit. That's so much worse than I thought, I don't even explain what tendrils are. Fuck. Look, they're like... Big tubes of land that go through the air like a spiderweb.

I need to put that in there somewhere. It's kind of important.

I have this weird idea about Monmusu where the Kobold are like, in control of everything...
Like, the reason the extra species accords were passed is because the Kobolds bribed the governments to do so....

Also, I think Polt's a mafia princess.

>>48395101
Begone dogbold. This is no place for you.

>>48365783
hiss

>>48395280
Why did japanese and western kobold designs diverge so drastically?
Same with Orcs too.

>>48396748
I think in kobolds case, it was a language thing when translating a ye olde dnd bestiary? They were referred to as having 'doglike' faces.

I mean the same thing could have happened to orcs. Say one has a piglike nose, and bam. They all have snouts, even if they only meant it was kinda upturned.

>>48394545

>Here, we will provide
some general guidelines for doing so, as well as
roll tables to help you if you get suck

stuck

Reading what I can, thi seems rather interesting, though I didn't get into the meat yet.

>>48397003
I thought the orc thing was based on the kanji for orc and pork being the same.

>>48397411
I dunno on orcs, I was just theorizing.

>>48373649
smek

What makes kobolds koboldy?

What are some definitive kobold traits that transcend setting?

>>48397806
Generally, being short, annoying, puntable, and above all pathetic beyond any shadow of a doubt.

I enjoy dragons who treat their kobolds with that "only I'm allowed to mess with my little brother" attitude. Like, they casually use them for odds and ends (treasure transport, sentry, paperweight...) and might, rarely, pick up and eat one as a snack, but the swordsman and his friends who just killed the four kobolds playing a game of Cribbage for no apparent reason are immediately on his shitlist.

>>48397815
First two definitely, and the third if you can get away with it, but they can be clever.

>>48397940
It's super easy to think that a dragon might consider their kobolds as part of their hoard. If they do something to them, that's fine, but anyone else?

Well allowing that would be downright undraconic.

And other races might look down on kobolds, but dragons look down on everyone, and kobolds at least LOOK dragony.

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>This thread has made me fall in love with Kobolds

Kobolds kinda ended up at the bottom of the barrel for me as a DM, but I think that's just cause I hardly have any experience with them in games.

The only time I've ever seen them in a game was when the GM had a bounty hunter hunt our party. Said bounty hunter had two Kobold slaves that would stack up kids-in-a-trenchcoat style and assemble a javelin turret.

They seem pretty cool though, I really wanna play one now. What is playing a Kobold like?

>whats playing a cutebold like?

>>48398675
Playing a Cutebold in a real campaign involves dying a lot, I would believe.

>>48400245
OF course it does

>>48402866
I have two kobold allies traveling with the party in the campaign I'm running.

There's about 10 ways for them to die I the next session. I'm going to be really sad if neither of them make it.

>>48403499
Dubs demand an explanation of the ways they might die

>>48404971
The T-Rex will bite one in half immediately (no save) if they fail to notice it first.

Yuan-Ti are going to try and kill them (as opposed to ignoring them for being non-threats) as part of their quest to purge the unworthy scaled races.

Giant bees can sting them to death (and one of them will accidentally disturb the hive if they're not careful)

Most of the poison plants they can stumble into will have CON saves they're unlikely to make, and the resulting illness will probably kill them.

>>48397940
>pick up and eat one as a snack
vorefags pls go and stay go
you are worst fetish

>>48406351
Is it bad that I stay away from dragons eating anything to avoid going into Vore territory?

I think it's a bit paranoid but I want to be sure.

>>48398675
Cutebolds are essentially what gully dwarves were supposed to be: adorable retards.

Do dragonless tribes of kobolds occasionally adopt hatchlings to eventually lead their group?

>>48406351
You have such a hair-trigger even cops are jealous.

>>48407862
As a vorefag myself, that's probably paranoid. Obviously don't mention it incredibly frequently, and don't devour the party, but dragons eating is fine, especially if you don't go out of the way to mention how it didn't bite down and the snack is alive and fruitlessly struggling down its throat (most vore is soft vore, where there's no gore).
It's like how a drunken hobo pissing on the side of a run-down tavern before staggering down an alleyway is flavortext, and The Whizzard, Powerful Practitioner of Pee Prestidigitation, is magical realm.

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Fuck, image didn't load. I'll try again.

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>>48348418
>>48349034
Here is other lewdbold.

>>48362744
>ORIGINAL Kobold
You'd better be trolling, son.

>>48410593
The proportions on that are really weird

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It's funny, I ALWAYS imagined kobolds as lightly furred, like a short-haired dog... or a terrier if particularly scruffy, waay before the cutebold stuff ever became a product of Dwarf Fortress/Weaver.

Probably because I was first exposed to them through Angband, ToME and derivative -bands in which they were just described as dog-headed humanoids with no mention of draconic or lizard attributes (ancient copies of Angband was also how I was first introduced to the basic ADnD derived RPG stats, hit dice, and weapon dice mechanics.)

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>>48413508
How about both?

>>48413778
That's adorable

>>48413778
You see, when a dragoness loves a dog very, very much...
she shoves the un/lucky son of a bitch up her enormous pussy/cloaca, he's never seen again, and she later lays an egg containing a dogbold

>>48417945
can we please not

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>>48417945
For fuck's sake can we have one thread without that? One?

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>>48413508
What's really funny about that is that its a common mistranslation of the original kobold from D&D which is a small scaled humanoid with a dog-like head and a ratlike tail. Most people misinterpret the doglike and ratlike descriptor to mean literally a dog's head and rat tail instead of the more appropriate vaguely shaped like a dog's head and rats tail. And then they forget about the scales and think they are dogs.

This is why japanese kobolds are dogs, and lots of early videogames that were based in some way on old school D&D have the same issue.

Pic related, please ignore the 2e Monstrous Compendium, the artist was an idiot who ignored the description.

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Do you think there is a sort of pecking order between kobolds depending on which colour dragon they serve, or is it more case by case?

>>48418708
Case by case.

Really, you would think that a lot of dragons wouldn't want Kobold servants. I mean, they're a pretty pathetic thing to have associated with you, you know?

>>48394545
87-88: Everyone within 200 feet of you gain a permanent psychic link to each others mind and know what each of you are thinking at all times.

>>48420190
That might be hard to do properly in-game but I fucking love this idea. I'm using it.

>>48405201
thats 4. keep going

>>48423249
Eaten by snakes

Eaten by the aligator that's in the river

Picked up and dropped from a great height by one of the Griffins

Headhunted by lizard folk (who the party can make friendly via a variety of ways, especially since the Yuan-ti want to exterminate them too).

Okay, so maybe I only have 8.

>>48423386
Don't feel bad, it's correct within an order of magnitude

>>48423386
You'd have been accurate in base 4.

>>48426601
Base 8, actually. 8 is 20 in base 4.

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Updated the sprites. Enjoy!

>>48397532
>>48397003
in oD&D they looked very pigish, they later changed in the west when things like warhammer and warcraft got big and had them more as green muscle men with tusks

>>48355067
Holy shit that armor makes my dick hard. Plus good on yer mates, but I'm biased towards people who side with underdeveloped cinderella factions.

Any good stories that feature kobold in them?

Bonus points for actual published works

>>48419669
I dunno, dragons as a general rule tend to be pretty prideful, and nothing's quite as big a boost to your ego as being worshiped as a god-king/queen. They might not care one whit about their welfare, they may ignore them except when they want to be showered in adulation. They may accept them if they bring tribute, and allow them to dig mines to bring the precious gems and metals from the earth to their waiting hoard. They may even decide to make them "vassals" so that their subjects may build massive tunnels, a secure Dragon Hoard Vault and Bedchamber, a Hatchery for their eggs, and fortifications to bar the way for all but the most determined(or least wise) thieves.

Why kobolds?

>>48345860

Hey! I've gamed with the author. Didn't realise people have actually read it! unless this is shameless self-promotion

I've only read the free samples, but what I read was good!

>>48365783
I actually still think it's cute.

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>>48345860
I've read the first two and bought the third. Then work foot extra worky and i haven't had time to read

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>>48433128
Dammit, I hate it when I see an image I like, but when I go to check the other artist's stuff it turns out that that's pretty much the one thing I like that they have ever done.

>>48435354
This image is horrifying.

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Comic time.

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>>48437519
It's only a little one.

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>>48437647
Remember little guy, you're here forever.

>>48437662
That was cute, but the ending was fucking depressing.

I've noticed that a lot about fantasy stuff. For the vast, vast majority of citizens in the average fantasy world, your life is fucking awful. You work a menial job for little pay and quietly suffer until you die at age 35. If you're not a wizard or a knight or something it's pretty actually fairly awful.

It's starting to make me lose interest in the genre in some ways.

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Well, since that little slice of kobold sadness is over let's look towards a brighter side.

How often do you encounter or make kobold towns or cities? They're industrious, cunning and numerous so by all rights every now and then one tribe manages to make it to the bigger leagues.
How do kobold dominated towns differ to human dominated ones?

>>48437701
Yeah, that's kind of a downer. But so is reality I guess. Majority of humans lead a crappy life.
The kobold in the main storyline of that comic gets to be a squire to a paladin though and be pretty badass. Pity the artist stopped making it.

>>48437757
I don't really know if the majority of humans lead a crappy life. I think that life is a big pile of ups and downs, but the people I know personally are more about the ups.

I don't know, it's the lack of hope in fantasy worlds that gets me. Maybe you stop the evil wizard, sure, but all those peasants are going to have those same lives forever. Social mobility in the modern-day US isn't great but at least it's possible, you know?

It's one of the reasons that I haven't really gotten into the systems of government in the setting guidebook I'm making (which I posted earlier). In my heart I want to make most things closer to democracy, but I know that a lot of people who play fantasy games tend to enjoy Kings and Queens, even if I personally dislike them.

Then again, this is my setting, so maybe I can say "fuck it" and have most governments be at least somewhat merit-based, damn what the haters say. It's already not really medieval in terms of tone, come to think of it.

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>>48437869
Majority of humans aren't First World. Though depending on setting peasants can benefit from the magic mart too.
Clean water for a village can be secured via endless decanters and water towers.
Totems of growth and fertility strung up in the fields.. little bits of magic here and there that help.

Unless of course you're playing low fantasy medical but hell, life just sucked back then for everyone without copious amounts of gold and whores.

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Oh yeah, forgot to say; good in between for a Monarchy and a Democracy is a Dictatorship.
No, the other kind. Similar to the Roman kind, have a senate and an elected dictator who has near supreme power but can't change the election process.
Plus it lets players get involved in some politics as they might want to influence the senate to have a new leader or keep the one they like in charge.

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>>48437966
>>48438083
The majority of humans aren't first world, but even poorer humans are in better conditions than they've ever been. Sweatshops suck but they're a hell of a lot better than sustenance farming.

The setting is ridiculously high magic already, which helps. Here, have a slightly-updated guidebook.

As for government types, I think I can just have a hugely wide variety, considering the scope of the world.

>>48438204
>Sweatshops suck but they're a hell of a lot better than sustenance farming.
That's a bold assertion for someone who has experienced neither.

>>48438303
I'm basing this on the revealed preferences of all the people who decide to work in sweatshops instead of doing sustenance farming, as well as the global starvation and extreme poverty rates (which have both been tanking since the 80s).

http://data.worldbank.org/topic/poverty

>>48438359
I was not expecting an actual, reasoned answer. Props.

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>>48438632
>>48438659
>Dragon Tits

>Fuck Wizards (Druids are okay I guess)

I am ded.

>>48438461
Most people don't realize that Sweatshops are good (in the short term). They suck, but they're better than the alternatives in many cases.

Krugman did a good article on this. I'm on my phone but I think this is it:

http://www.slate.com/articles/business/the_dismal_science/1997/03/in_praise_of_cheap_labor.html

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>>48438744

>>48438282
Cute, isn't there more like this where a kobald becomes enamoured with a larger female PC

>>48441968
>equip

DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND

KOBOLDS ARE JUST LIZARDMAN HALFLINGS

LIZARDHOBBITS

>>48443036
That's what makes them so delicious.

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>>48441968
>Novelty of midget races
>Beast races niche

Can't help it man, two things I like collide.

>>48443227
Glad you could join us.

In my setting kobolds come in three flavours, rat, lizard and armadillo
Lizard kobolds are the smartest and most charismatic, often when kobold settlements pop up it is a lizard kobold as the leader
Rat kobolds are generally quite loyal but sneaky and also the most cowardly
Armadillo kobolds are the biggest, usually double the size of the two other species, and the bravest, in that too stupid to run away even if they should
Kobolds are usually seen as pests but businesses are starting to take advantage of hard working creatures that could be housed in a wardrobe and fed with scraps, this, combined with kobolds natural tendency to attach themselves to whatever shows them any affection, tends to lead to close relationships between man and kobold
This means that depending on where you go kobolds could be anything from equal citizens, to pets, to vermin, and sometimes all 3 in the same city

>>48443629
Are they diffrent breeds or just a weird caste system

>>48443682
Subspecies, sort of, its actually a result of genes so a litter could contain any and all of the three types

>>48443629
can they also come in pangolin?

>>48440182
I got a chnce to play something similar to that
I played a Kobold that'd basically been a worthless street rat until a paladin (my friend's player) took him in.
He became utterly loyal to her, and did the tasks that required more finesse, and less smashing/smiting (her specialty). He also helped her hold back when it was important
It was a really cute dynamic, I just wish it hadn't been a mini-campaign

>>48445790
That's a good idea although I don't know how I would now shoehorn them in

You know, I don't think Kobolds have ever been portrayed in a film. Not one I know of anyway.

That's sad.

>>48450353
Is that a Frogbold?

>>48451921
Of course, anon. Everyone knows lizards are icky and no good! It's a horrible idea to have one be a protagonist, unless there are more mammal coprotagonists and a bigger, ickier final villain to reinforce the public knowledge that snakes, tegu, geckos, and all other reptiles are Pure Evil who should be killed on sight!
I am a little upset after seeing too many "ew ew ew kill that nasty ball python it's gonna eat you in your sleep" posts on social media

>>48451921
You might look at Gurgi in Black Cauldron as a dogbold.

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>>48452570
>
Also: What pets do kobolds keep? I like to think that since their mines occasionally breach the deeper, darker layers they picked up a like for spiders.

>>48437647
Pretty darn cute

>>48433654
10/10 design, I love it!

>>48437701
>Work crops
>marry childhood sweetheart
>have up to 8 beautiful children
>harvest festivals in the fall
>Yule Feasts in the Winter
>Spring Dances in the, uhh... spring
>Summer picnics
>all with your closest friends and families
>live strong and well for at least 35 years (but potentially as many as 70)
>never live old enough to burden your children or suffer indignity
>all the fresh food and water you can ask for
>literally nothing wrong with constant beer drinking
>catch up with distant buddies after Church on Sundays
>free jousting tournaments
>no rent or bills
>school exists purely for song and dance and the occasional exceptional scholarly child

Okay
>

>>48454265
Backbreaking labor every day of your life
Your childhood sweetheart, like everyone in the village, has warts and bad teeth and poor hygiene.
Occasional festivals are the only time you get to not work all day
Constantly fear getting sick, which is basically a death sentence.
Constantly hunger for food and pure water.
The constant beer drinking was because they drank small beer, which had a very low alcohol content. Small beer has enough alcohol to kill the germs in it, making it a safer alternative to water.
Heavy taxation from your liege.

Just no.

>>48453231
I'm pretty sure Drow have ruined pet spider for all the other races, especially the ones underground.

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>>48454265
my brother of african descent. medieval okayland is the best setting

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>>48413508
I always picture them as anthropomorphic velociraptors.

>>48455348
Have you got the full gif anywhere?

>>48455366
That is the full gif

>>48437701
>>48454265
>>48454470
>Die at age 35

Are you people fucking retarded?

That has never been the average age of death for healthy adults at any point in human history.

The reason people think that is because of averages. Child mortality rates were through the roof for most of human history until recently, which lower the average dramatically.

The "Normal people only used to live to 35 before croaking!" meme needs to fucking die.

>>48455396
I never said they would die at the age of 35, because I know it's not true.
But getting sick was still very dangerous and living long isn't exactly great when your quality of life is in the gutter.

>>48455420
>I never said they would die at the age of 35

>" quietly suffer until you die at age 35 "

Even in a non-literal usage, this meme needs to die. A large percentage of people lived well into their 60s with no complications. If that many people died constantly of disease, we wouldn't still fucking be around.

Humanity revived itself from a population at one point of around 10,000 people. In the grand scheme of things, while a small percentage (slightly larger back then) die of disease and other problems, acting like a statistically significant amount of people died of this shit to make life so absolutely horrific and terrible for people is dumb.

>>48455348
>that one raptor sex/vore greentext from a few months back.
The lewds purge was one of the worst things to happen in recent /tg/ history.

>>48455459
I'm the third, not the first.

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>>48455496
I fucking hate that spoiler. So many good artists doing things I like but they draw stuff for a fetish I dont have.
And when you have a size difference fetish it doesn't exactly help trying to find non vore.

>>48455697
I have the opposite problem. "Oh, this artist does good size difference vore! ...Oh, all the rest of his art is just macro/scat/foot stuff."

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bumping w/ my kobold folder

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>>48455912
And here am like a chump without ANY of those fetishes.

>>48456022
Step up your game, I bet you wank to actual porn like some sort of weirdo

>>48456022
Hang around here long enough and you'll probably develop one or two more deviant ones. I wasn't into cockvore or feral dragons when I first visited.

>>48456069
Give him some credit, he might at least be into kobolds.
http://pastebin.com/W1T7yUih

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>>48456102
I've been here long enough to like a couple of the odder monstergirls. And dragons.
But eating people just ain't sexy

>>48456069
I'm not that bad.

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Steering this thread back to slightly more sfw waters... how do people suggest playing a kobold? What differentiates them from humans that you can bring across at the table?

>>48456258
Kobolds are weak and I see two ways to play this. The first is where the kobold owns up to his weakness and willingly uses underhanded tactics to gain the advantage which seems like a common way to play smaller, weaker races. The obvious example would be a rogue.

The other, and the way that I usually play, is to find ways to gain strength or power. Be a kobold barbarian who gets angry when others call him small/weak or an alchemist who uses potions and mixtures to get rid of the inherent weaknesses of kobolds. Alternatively gain magical power instead of physical.

As for personality, I usually stick to the roots of being (mildly) xenophobic and sometimes prideful for having even the smallest hint of draconic blood.

>>48454265
>All the fresh food and water you can ask for

I really, really hope that's a joke.

>>48457238
Magic!

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So somtime down the line, my GM is going to be running 5e in a city based steampunkish(he's still not exactly sure on the tech level) world. The idea is that there is a large gap between the rich and the poor. There is no middle class, or if there is, their numbers are negligible. Im wanting to play a kobold with a smallman complex. He's probably going to be a rouge, depending on if guns are a thing. But im stuck on his background. I can't decide if I am him to be a highwayman/bandit kind of guy, or more of a robin hood type person. But Iv'e also had thoughts of making him, like super optomistic and cheery. It all sounds like it would be fun to play, but i cant decide. Wat do tg?

>>48457724
make him a legitimately nice guy that has issues understanding the concept of property

>>48458765
like a clepto or somthing?

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>>48458765
They're still draconic after all, gotta have them hoards.
Maybe they see the whole under city as sort of one huge kobold warren, they're all in this together so let's raid the rich folks all sneaky-drakey like and add their gold to the 'warrens' instead!

the book in november will have kobold racial PC stats, right?

I been pining to make a kobold battlemaster for so long

>>48458765
>make him a kender
NO

>>48458765
>"Huh? What do you mean? But.. It's just sitting there? Out in the open. I mean yeah you've told me not to steal, I know that, you've said that four hundred times, but.. That? C'mon, that's not stealing, that's just picking it up! You can't steal a fruit anyway. What's the difference?"

>>48459068
>Okay. I know you said no stealing. And i know I promised. But I swear, I'm not in prison for stealing this time.
...so what are you in for then Koz?
>Scrumping.
THAT'S JUST APPLE STEALING!
>Technically... it doesn't have to be apples but any orchard fruit, so...
FOCUS, Koz! It's still stealing!

>>48457724
What if you play a sort of reverse Robin Hood? Not quite stealing from the poor and giving to the rich but work for the government. Did somebody not pay their taxes? You go steal it for them instead. As for being all cheery...I dunno. Be happy that you work for the upper class or something?

>>48459035
nothing about being comically innocent, just a happy lizard dude trying to go about is day collecting shinies to spread happiness

>>48459188
leaving shiny baubles in place of things they took, pro quid pro

Anyone got any Imperial Dragon kobolds? Yknow, with the whisker/beard, antlers, and general look of them instead of the chromatic/metallic varients?
It's a rare thing but I think it's a neat concept that should be explored.

>>48458921
Thats why I wanted to go with some sort of bandit motif. Because it would appeal to his draconic sense of getting shiny things. The DM was talking about there being a black market type thing around, maybe I'll have him be from that.
>>48459068
>>48459158
This sounds entertaining. I might actually use this. It fits with the draconic 'get shiny things'. It also makes me think, that if he's all happy and optimistic, he wouldn't even really be taking money, so much as practical shit like food/supplies. This sounds great. I mean, how can somone actually "own" a tree(or the fruit on it), it just grows out of the ground, and they are every ware.

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>>48459427
I... don't think I've seen any. Which now you mention it seems like a glaring omission

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>>48459462
I know, right!?
Pic related, seems to be literally the ONLY one!

>>48459011
Probably not, anon. Nobody loves kobolds except /tg/ and furries. And there's a lot of overlap there.

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>>48459537
>looks at the pathfinder community.

Yea, nobody but /tg/ and furries....

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>>48459520
I can definitely see that 'bolds doing the wise whiskered Chinese elder shtick.
"Wise Kobold once say; 'Grab the Shinies'... we are not a very wise species on the whole. Still, it is good to seize good fortune where you find it."

>>48459427
Imperial as in Eastern noodle dragons or Imperial as in the Flight Rising dragon species?

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>>48459859

>>48429124
I have an overwhelming urge to rub its belly.

>>48437701
That's because life during the medieval period pretty much sucked. For most people, you had it good if you could afford to regularly buy your own meat.

>>48429124
I want to stroke its tail and rub its belly.

>>48460562
>>48461288
I want to finger it.

>>48461471
Sure, me too. But the kobold comes well after it lets you just rub its tail and belly.

>>48461532
I want to stick things in its hole. By things I mean food, and by hole I mean mouth. I want to feed it and make it healthy.

>>48461602
L-Lewd

Hey friends, I want to make a Kobold character for my Pathfinder game, but have no idea how to go about it, I'm essentially at this point either stuck in the slot of playing the team face or the healer, how can I make this fun with this race?

>>48463398
If you can fluff spells and rituals a bit, have the kobold use healing stuff passed down among kobolds rather than by humans.

>>48459462
>skirmisher
>covered in wooden boards with nails sticking out of them

>>48338825


Kobolds,

Rat Monsters,
Lizard Monsters, or
Dog Monsters.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10836100

vote

>>48392797

I normally think of them as rat folk, sometimes dog folk, I very rarely see them as lizard folk.

>>48459537

Dwarf Fortress has a major hard on for cutebolds,

they prefer dog type though

>>48463787

I meant DF forum / Bay12 Forums.

I don't remember how DF describes Kobolds.

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>>48463713
Greetings from /v/, stop littering our board with your stupid quarrels, how about you dont gather people from outside your board to do your dirty job, you disingenuous faggot. Fucking kill yourself.

XOXO

>>48362744
>>48410876
Ironically, blizzard's kobolds are the closest to original kobolds before they splintered into canine and lizard kobolds.

>>48438632
>Dat proper muay thai kicking technique
Attention to detail like that just kills me.

>>48459571
Why does this guy get to looked 'roided as shit but Kobolds still get a -4 to Str? What the fuck?

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>>48465874
Because Paizo are fucking incompetents.

Kobolds work out to having a total of MINUS FOUR modifier to their ability scores from race. Even fucking GOBLINS break even, and those retarded little motherfuckers do it with +4 Dexterity

When I played a Kobold girl in a game a while back, the DM was nice enough to let me swap that abortion of a statblock for a standard +2 +2 -2. Good Intelligence and Dexterity, poor Strength.

We worked it out that it was because a good portion of the kobold race had integrated into normal society, and so city kobolds were overall less shit than the 'wild' ones still living out innawoods due to having things like proper nutrition and access to healthcare.

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>>48465940
My mistake, minus four total points. Minus two modifier.

Have another K'bold.

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Watch out guys OG kobold coming through

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVx7IPnSgNP-JbK8FP-lUpw77QKMLihWo

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>>48465852
Supply and demand

>>48468439
Well now a peasant can afford 3 kisses a year ))))))

>>48418170
Seriously if people are coming to you to be devoured then demand payment from them.

>>48418170
>>48468542
Honestly, if it weren't for the whole "injury and death" thing, I would totally get eaten by a dragon. It'd be uncomfortable, but getting to see a mythical creature so close? Absolutely.

>>48345202
Kobolds are great workers, but utterly terrible merchants

Anytime non-kobold merchants see kobolds building up industry, they send in adventurersso that the 'bolds are back to gathering resources and selling them dirt cheap to make ends meet.

My favourite DnD character I have ever made was a Kobold Ranger called Dak Dak. He started following a dragonborn paladin named Baresh around, worshipping him as if he were a proper dragon.

The paladin spent most of his time pursuing a cult of devil worshippers who were infiltrating every level of government in the kingdom, and trying to teach Dak Dak how to deal with civilized society.

Unfortunetely, the cult slowly started to bring Baresh around to their way of thinking, drawing him on with a promise of release from a curse that he had contracted dealing with the symptoms of the cults infestation. He tried to convert Dak Dak but he had already taken too many of the Paladins teachings to heart. He left Dak Dak alone and broken on the side of a mountain as he went into the cult stronghold, the kobold unable to bring himself to kill his teacher.

It was a fun campaign

>>48468600
...kinda like us and the third world countries, then? I can dig it.

>>48468600
>>48468717
They wouldn't send adventurers. Not if they're smart, anyway. The industrial revolution made goods vastly cheaper. The merchants shouldn't really give a shit that the kobolds are living happy lives, since they get to benefit from higher kobold productivity as well.

Of course, people are pretty fucking irrational, so maybe that doesn't happen—especially if the kobolds don't have any kind of free mobility of labor.

>>48469096
Why trade wages for ore when you can just sell a pickaxe for a few pounds of ore. Just don't like the kobolds build up to forging their own stuff and becoming self-sufficient or else your profit margins will suffer

>tfw adventurers sell you the same pickaxe you traded to the kobolds for 1/2 price

>>48468600
>>48469096

Kobolds could fuel the industrial revolution.

Think about it, fast breeding, totally expendable, well suited to simple repetitive tasks. Who cares if a few dozen a day get mashed while picking up cotton rags from the mechanical jenny, they are easily replaced

They could come to replace most labour in societies, causing a luddite movement that seeks to destroy industrial machines and drive out the sub-human kobolds and bring back craftsman-centred labour

>>48469164
Then again the industrial revolution didn't happen in China, which has a long, long, long history of having expendable peasants in ample supply.

>>48469152
The kobolds (if they're smart) will always want to trade with you, because trade is welfare-improving due to comparative advantage. The kobolds can make textiles, and you trade them food in return. You make your money as a merchant by providing the trading service itself and charging fees.

>>48469207
>>48469164
The industrial revolution requires quick access to coal, enclosed land, and accessible iron. Kobolds may be able to help, but doing it on their own would be hard.

>>48469230
I mean the Kobolds used more as a labour source rather than the instegators of the revolution. Maybe similar to the Irish when things kicked off in the new world. They came swarming over in search of a better life, but were mostly just exploited as serf-like labour

>>48469294
I gave the Kobolds strong Cockney accents in my campaign, but, come to think of it, Irish Kobolds would have been better.

>>48345202
>why aren't kobolds ever a dangerous force in any setting I've seen
They are usually 3'2, cowaerdly and not very good at anything engineering related than traps.

A dragon is a terrifying force for a nation of superior beasts, kobolds really stand no chance to compete.

>>48469164
Well if youre thinking like that then golems and undead are already used for factory robots.

>>48469505

http://www.tuckerskobolds.com/

Read this, this is how you make Kobolds dangerous

>>48469604

Stop poking holes in my idea damnit

>>48469604
undead and golems are very stupid though, and the latter are expensive

>>48469294
My elves are the Irish. Kobolds are Chinamen.

>>48469727
Undead also have hella taboos.

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Kobolds make me all kinds of butthurt, /tg/. I don't know how to fit them in, but I like them enough that I want to.

I want my setting to have distinct, memorable races. And I already have 9. Kobolds have a lot of stock in how they look and act, and are distinct that way, but if I create a great tall race of lizardmen, can the image of scaley kobolds fit in without seeming overburdened?

>>48475928
Sure.

Just consider how they could be different. Kobolds are fairly draconic in nature, while the bigtall lizards could be more saurian.

Furthermore, think about how their societies could be different, and use that as a jumping off point to think about how they'd dress and act.

>>48469727
And factory robots arent?

Remember its not about doing the job right its about doing it for much less than you.

>>48475928
You could have the kobolds act as rats
Whereever there's people/other races, there's kobolds too. They modify in sewers in big cities and dig homes around other races (even in swamps, somehow)

They're social, love to play, don't share others' concept of personal space as they huddle together, but they're treated as vermin because they tend to take food. They see it as a test of the opposite sides traps/security system. If it's not well guarded by traps, then it's open to everyone

>>48478536
what is this? Neir?

>>48347921
sauce

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I started a dumb cyoa comic about a kobold. I just wish I were a good enough artist to post faster.

>>48479116
>CYOA

If you're going to do that, I suggest simplifying that style by a LOT. You need to be able to bust these drawings out fast.

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>>48479156
A normal panel looks like this, that one I just wanted to look a little nicer because it's supposed to be dramatic.
although honestly I'm just a shit artist who hasn't improved in 6 years of dedicated study so at this point I've just given up any chance of doing something people like and I just doodle in my free time.

>>48479205
If you want people to actually like your stuff, I'd suggest migrating to tgchan instead of slumming it in /qst/.

/qst/ is for bottom barrel pandering shit where you won't get a second glance if your quest isn't softcore porn or shit anime fanquest.

>>48479258
Que?
I didn't say I posted on /qst/, that place seems like too much of a shithole even for me. I have a dumb little askblog on tumblr where I post like once a season when I have the freetime to work on my own things.

I draw WAY too slow to post anything on a forum or imageboard, I'm talking weeks not days here.

>>48479301
I have enjoyed your drawings, just wanted to let you know

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>>48479563
I draw kobolds a lot. At some point they became my favorite I don't know why or when.

>>48480928
Well this was a good thread. I'll miss it probably maybe

>>48395101
The artist is a faggot for making the fluffy tail races furry.