Pathfinder General /pfg/

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Akashit Mysteries when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJOovInlk-w

Come all you autist men
Listen to me
I'll sing you a song of the 'shit Mysteries

And its TRAP-FILLED VEIL LISTS, boys
NO PLAYTESTING, boys
When it uploads
We'll bantz together, boys

There's a race here with
Plus 4 Int and flight
Thick-headed Ssalarn, boys, publish he goes!

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I like the daione sidhe!

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>>48323224
Why do you feel the need to do this?

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So how's your game going so far /pfg/? Give me some storytimes.

>>48323152
I make no promises, if only because it's like that in all of my docs.

Maybe "Frostwald" instead? Problem there being it's not just a forest. Maybe Frostwilds?

Point is, big, open, cold region filled with Norse barbarian tribes that the players will bring together to form an army to throw out the Saracens. I mean, throw out the Orcs. Who are invading, from the east. And have names like "Malik al-Shakush".

So what do you guys think of Dungeon World?

>>48323290
Come on man.

>>48323290
>Dungeon World
Do they not teach young dwarves about the surface?

>>48323290
7 FUCKING REPLIES IN. GOD DAMMIT QUIT YOUR FAGGOTY ASS FUCKSHIT AND FUCKING FUCK SHIT FUCK fuck.

shit.

>>48323093
Okay, so - stylistically, you've got a shitload of things that are randomly capitalized when they shouldn't be, and that's a major pet peeve of me, so gonna set that out there.

Secondly, are people forced to play PoW classes or not? You have rules for sorcerers and animal companions and backgrounds for characters to be magicians but there's that PoW restriction mentioned.

Thirdly, I am incredibly wary of anything that shoves its players into frozen rusty dagger shanktown with literally no gear, no money, no anything. Is that really what you intended?

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>>48323319
It's alright anon, let soothing elf hips calm you.

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>>48323290
Poor implementation of Apocalypse World.

Go play Fellowship for PbtA fantasy instead.

>>48323194
I legitimately love the Trixie. The offspring of a gnome and a pixie, but they don't breed, no. They just become best friends, and after decades, centuries, of closeness, the pixie coughs out a seed. They plant the seed, they water it, and after a year or two, a trixie grows!

It's like a story you'd tell your child who asks where babies come from.

>>48323264
I'm currently running Reign of Winter.

The party has just entered the Howlings, and they're proceeding with remarkable diplomacy for a curmudgeonly group of Murder-hobos.

They killed the Mirror Man, but they fucked up their stealth rolls because they didn't roll high enough to know not to rely on the Alchemist's Invisibility Extracts. The Human Warder has a date with Greta, and might wind up recruiting her to the party. The Ranger has become increasingly paranoid, and has recently shifted alignments from LG to NG due to seeing the abuses perpetrated by the Lawful Evil government.

Oh, and they fucked up on the extermination of the Winter Wolf and his human buddies before getting there - one of them had their Raven get away (I used Ravenlord Harbingers for them), and it has informed the witches of their presence, so... fun times.

>>48323093
EMBRACE THE ELEMENTS
Discipline: Elemental Flux (Stance)
Level: 1
Fire You gain a +4 bonus on initiative checks and
you gain the benefits of the endure elements spell.

>>48323194
So Pathfinder is for furfags, right? Got it. Do I need to actually wear a fursuit to play, or will they just take it on my word that I'm a foxkin?

>>48323269
Frostwilds would be cool. Could break out the Old Norse and see if you can come up with something close to Frostwild (Kalaheim, maybe?)

>>48323421
Name one game that hasn't got furfags shoehorned into it.

Good luck.

>>48323488
Dungeon World

>>48323264
Our current party is an experiment by our GM. Basically, we're all gestalt, but only one half of our gestalt is common knowledge to the rest of the group; the other half is a secret between the player and the GM.

Most of us blew the secret really early on, but our Kobold Life Oracle successfully kept his under wraps until last night, our twentieth session. We were fighting a losing battle against hordes of lizardfolk backed by ogres, when suddenly the goofy, half-senile healer busts out some Spheres shit and animates a huge pile of lizardfolk as undead. Turns out he was half Thaumaturge the whole time, and was optimising the Death sphere. Saved our asses, but the Paladin/Sorc was really pissed.

>>48323093
Looks awesome, might want to specifically disallow cthulu-stars bits as well. I'd also note more explicity "Can everyone get some fighting prowess please, this is barbarian funtimes" at some point.
Altering racial skill bonuses, or no?

Only gripe is "Fistbeard" in the dorf clans.

>>48323500
i kekd

>>48323546
That actually sounds pretty fun, if you're able to do it in a group that can trust each other. How'd it go after the session?

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>>48323290

>>48323500
He said game, anon.

Anons, anybody have playtest with mandala adept archetype for mystic class?

>>48323588
Mandala Adept? What's that about?

So DUNGEON WORLD did you guys ever DUNGEON WORLD because I DUNGEON WORLD mechanics DUNGEON WORLD roleplaying game DUNGEON WORLD and then we DUNGEON WORLD but the problem DUNGEON WORLD in the DUNGEON WORLD but DUNGEON WORLD and DUNGEON WORLD played because mechanics like DUNGEON WORLD.

DUNGEON WORLD.

If you bone Greta in human form, will the children be human or wulfkin?

>>48323633
Human-shaped dragons breed half-dragons, so there's precedent. Wulfkin.

>>48323633
Wulfkin most likely, or at least the start of a Sorcerous Bloodline (more likely a Bloodrager though). She's still genetically a winter wolf, even if she takes a human shape. It's like Ranma or whatever, animals who got shapeshifted to be wives passed on their animalistic-traits.

>>48323562
It was a shitstorm, but in a good way. Nobody could believe that he had gone that long without using half his character, and he was surprised (and smug) that nobody figured it out sooner. He and the Gm exchanged many high fives that night.

It does put the paladin in an awkward position, though. He took Oath Against Undead for flavor reasons, and is sworn to kill all necromancers he sees, but the kobold has yet to do anything really evil. In fact, he has done nothing but heal the sick and aid those in need the whole game. My inner GM got the biggest shit eating grin when this all went down.

>>48323321
I'll check the capitalization and such for that; I'm not sure where that happened when it shouldn't have.

As for PoW classes, the default is "Yes, they must", but the GM can over-rule that if he'd like. The Sorcerer thing is in case that comes up, or they want to take the Eldritch Heritage feats - same with the Animal Companion info.

They're given some "token" gear at the beginning of the game by the guardsmen who escort them beyond the wall, and they technically should be starting with Prisoner's Garb regardless, so they're not buck naked. In addition, one of the first things they find out in the wild is the corpse of a few Cortovan explorers; netting them some gear.

Angry Man is also meant to help deal with that, as someone with that trait can pick up a particularly sturdy stick, and use it as an improvised Greatclub or Quarterstaff that is also a Discipline Weapon for Primal Fury. Same with Runescarred, as Prestidigitation, Spark, or Mending would be a godsend.

>>48323434
Mayhaps.

>>48323555
The Cthulhu thing will actually come into play when they start treating with the Dwarves and the Drow, especially if they sue for peace and trigger the Battle Without Honor and Humanity bits (there were certain cults that were vested in the Dwarven and Drow conflict continuing without a decisive end - whoever the players side against, the cults will assist in rebuffing the assault, whereas if they manage to obtain peace between Drow and Northern Dwarf, they just go "JUST ELDER GOD MY SHIT UP SENPAI" and summon some star spawn to light fires the PCs need to put out).

Racial bits won't really be altered too much.

Maybe I'll eliminate the Fistbeards, though I'm not sure who to replace them with. The Ironfist? The Steelfist? Hmm...

>>48323618
>What's that about?
Charisma-based archetype for Mystic class.

>>48323633
Given everything going on in my Reign of Winter game, I expect the Ordained Dervish Defender will be giving Greta a litter of Wulfkin pups sooner rather than later.

>>48323720
That's basically the Animus Adept, IIRC.

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>>48323302
>>48323311
>>48323290
>>48323319
>>48323632

This is disgusting. All this hatred for a game you haven't even played.

Is it really necessary to have eight hundred feats that are 90% trap options? Or 50 different full caster classes with very little to distinguish them? Sprawling character sheets full of rules, and having to keep track of your characters base attack and combat maneuver bonus because the system you play cannot balance itself for fuck?

Why are you still playing this garbage? D&D 5e isn't much better, it is slightly less rules-heavy but is full of shitty class features that do not add to the fiction, which comes first in ANY roleplaying game.

The combat in Pathfinder is boring because as soon as some interesting back-and-forth starts, it is on to the next players turn and all tension is lost.

In Dungeon World there is no initiative, so you can go whenever you want. This means the fight takes on a whole new texture, far more like an action movie instead of a boring ass wargame played by two fat 40-year-old fucks who spend too much of their income on overpriced miniatures.

In my last Dungeon World game my fighter wrestled a bear out a window. We are talking about real roleplaying here, not babby 3.5 shit.

Can you say the same of your sessions?

>>48323742
I have no clue about Dungeon World, Anon. I just hate Pathfinder and I know it rustles their jimmies to bring it up.

>>48323684
>cthulu bits
I'm just noting it as an early bit for being a little troublesome if they're 'right'.

As for the fistbeards, it just sounds too memey. The others are reasonable.

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>>48323742
>All this hatred for a game you haven't even played.
I don't care about the game, I just don't like you. Personally.

I wish I could find an online game where the DM would give me a waifu and interpret every romance bit with her willingly, even if its pretty gay I don't care

>>48323759

Cool. Well, if you hate Pathfinder, play something better (like Dungeon World). Anything else makes you a useless shitter.

>>48323790
>I don't care about the game, I just don't like you. Personally.

Then your argument is based on personal attacks, and you have no excuse for not playing it.

>>48323742
But I LIKE wargames.

>>48323680
I hope it goes well, since that's exactly the sort of thing that I'd be worried would happen with the setup (well, that immediately followed by the paladin murdering the kobold or the kobold smugfacing while the paladin falls because he made the mistake of unknowingly playing oath against the undead in a party with a necromancer).

>>48323739
Sort of, but i wanna Mandala not Animus.

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>>48323798
>even if its pretty gay
What about a cute husbando then?

>>48323807
>Then your argument is based on personal attacks, and you have no excuse for not playing it.

If the playerbase is anything like you, that sounds like an EXCELLENT reason not to touch it regardless of how great it is.

>>48323807
Their jimmies aren't rustled enough yet.

>>48323840

Again, ad hominem. The player base does not matter in this discussion, only the quality o the game that is being played. So that argument is also invalid.

>>48323798
>I wish I could find an online game where the DM would give me a waifu and interpret every romance bit with her willingly, even if its pretty gay I don't care

Pathfinder players, everyone!

>>48323836
don't you dare drag mothman into your awful fetish shit

>>48323857
>Pathfinder players, everyone!
Yep, some of us are lonely fucks who want to at least pretend to feel some intimacy.

And others of us are loud assholes who won't shut up about a shitty game nor explain why it's good beyond "it's good!".

I'd actually rather the former, so please go, or at least get yourself a shitty trip so I can filter you? I suggest WORLDPOSTER.

>>48323857
How long do you plan on doing this

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>>48323877
Sorry anon, I just wanted to contribute to the shitpost pile. Im not a gay, but it's either that or dungeon world shit.

>>48323857
Actually, the player base matters a lot. DW players are immature, mindless, unimaginative players who think simplicity and being led around by the nose in a freeform game by an incompetent GM is good.

>>48323807
I've run it, I've read the books.

It's simplistic, unimaginative, and pointless. Anyone with more creativity than a rock finds it just as unimaginative, boring, and pointless in addition to unnecessarily constraining and hopelessly mired in a useless mechanic that means nothing.

>>48323857
>Pathfinder players, everyone!
So you're trying to say you find odd that a nerd with relationship problems plays with role playing games, that for definition are the King of escapistic activities?
Go back to facebook. please.

>>48323906
Pathfinder players think they're hip for playing Pathfinder instead of D&D, but it's just like liking a mainstream band and pretending that makes them more hip than liking some other, slightly more mainstream band.

>>48323684
I remembered it really irritating me in the human write up, though a lot of that stuff, like the domains of the two gods, could go either way (I'd err on the side of lowercase except in the case of things that directly personify the god - Selene is the Moon, but she is also a goddess of compassion, lowercase.) Also, in the post I'm replying to, prisoner's garb, greatclub, and quarterstaff, at least, should be lowercase. Again, this is entirely a pet peeve thing, and you are well within your rights to tell me to fuck right off.

>>48323857
>Again, ad hominem. The player base does not matter in this discussion, only the quality o the game that is being played. So that argument is also invalid.

Bullshit. The playerbase is the single most important thing about a game. You can have fun playing a bad game, or you can have bad time playing a great game. It all depends on the people you play with.

>>48323942
Except everyone in this thread acknowledges Pathfinder is basically D&D.

Shit most PF fags do. If you want to bait start talking shit about Path of War. If you REALLY want to go full bass pro, shit talk psionics.

>>48323942
Most players out of here play both without giving much fucks, though.

>>48323903
Fair enough.

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BOI IMMA BOUT TO DO IT

>>48323968
I've been on 4chan ten years and I still have no fucking idea of what an ad honorem is

I'm a oracle/bloodrager. I have cha to ref/fort from oracle. How can I get it to will?

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>>48324000
>ad honorem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_honorem

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>>48323264
My current party is made up of a Ratfolk necromancer(me) a recently fallen antipaladin, and a samurai bird personabd We are essentially beta testing the GMs setting. Currently out bad of misfits have angered an entire country with necromatic shenanigans, sailed across an ocean using undead as a sort of engine, met a God who like to take the form of a ghostly cat, and had to kill copies of ourselves to prove our worth to said God.

So far our gm has learnt that necromancers are not to be fucked with, especially with a 60 foot tall necrocraft, never to give anyone a crit range of 10-20 ever again(our samurai can almost one-shot most enemies now), and that once someone gets their AC past 30 to ignore it and focus on saves sometimes.

The main focus is him ramping up the difficulty honestly, we can hold our own at level 10, that and throwing more magic users at us, otherwise he's a fine gm.

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I think DW and PF are both systems build towards different play styles meant to compliment people looking for different things in their roleplay and I also think RPGs are, moreso than most other hobbies, capable of producing products for many different playrbases without any one product suffering for it.

>>48323986
DONT YOU DO IT

I'm playing a halfling ranged paladin/destined bloodrager in a gestalt game. My GM says my defendes are too high and I need to tone I down. I'm not even sure how to without redoing my build.

>>48324053
>10-20 crit range
The absolute madman

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>>48323942
You think anyone in this thread thinks they're hip? Look around you, it's all waifus and lewd degeneracy. There's a reason most of the games talked about in this thread are online.

>>48324000
>Ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a logical fallacy in which an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.[2]

Basically, your game sucks because you're a faggot.

>>48324000
Ad Hominem is a direct personal attack, e.g. "Your Game System of choice is bad SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE you are a fat smelly neckbeard who plays shitty games."
It's a cousin to Ad Infinitum (arguing until everyone else gets bored using circular logic) and Ad Nauseum (just arguing until everyone gets sick of it.)

>>48323798
That's called ERP, anon. Some people enjoy it.

>>48324098
I agree with this tired man.

>>48324114
Ironically the people who cry out "ad hominem" are usually the ones playing the ad infinitum and ad nauseum game. Often they are also virt.

>>48323264

Kicked things off in a vaguely French-sounding city. Everyone was getting ready for a week's worth of celebrations and violent contact sports, but the lord of the land had come down with a sudden and fairly serious case of death. His blushing bride-turned widow is en route from !notItaly to claim the city, but the lord's nephew has decided that now is the time to make his play, and marched a shitload of troops into the place, ordering the city closed and asserting to all and sundry that "no, really, guys, my uncle told me to do this before he died, honest". Meanwhile, evidence seems to point to aforementioned bride having ordered her hubby whacked, but there hasn't been very much investigating, due to the officer in charge of the investigation accidentally brutally cutting off his own head while combing his hair.

And now our happy little band is stuck in a district that has been sealed off from the rest of the city by the occupying forces. Unrest is rapidly rising, we have no idea what is going on in the rest of the city, and while it's rumored that the assassin who killed the lord is somewhere in the district, there haven't been any patrols or any kind of interaction with the city guards or the occupying soldiers. Also, we might have cultists.

So pretty normal stuff.

>>48324107
The best moment was when the character was freaking out about the dragons we were fighting(two adults, one green, one bronze.

Suficed to say they went full RULES OF NATURE on the dragon and did a total of 186 damage, killing it. The entire table was in tears.

>>48324098
Cool beans. Can we go back to discussing the one of those two games that is actually in the OP?

>>48324160
That sounds fucking hilarious yet incredibly retarded at the same time. You I like Anon.

>>48324149
>due to the officer in charge of the investigation accidentally brutally cutting off his own head while combing his hair.

Are you sure you're not in Tsarist Russia?

>>48323684
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>>48324149
>Brutally cut off his own head
I love every single comedic instance of "Worst case of suicide I've ever seen".

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>>48324184
The whole games been filled with these moments, partly because the gm is giving us "hero feats" (see: home brew feats he's testing) and partly because we keep going into left field with how we work problems out.

Recently there was the time, with the clones and the God, in which the 60ft necrocraft, following my orders to disable the clones, picked up the antipaladins clone(which weighed close to 400 pounds armor and all) and, which was best described by the gm, proceeded to football spike the anticlone into the samurai clone, splattering them both into piles of gore.

The God had to take a brief moment, the table/Gm had to take 5 to collect ourselves.

>>48324238
Okay, that keeps them from freeing to death, sort of how Blood of the North treats them as if they were wearing Winter Clothes. That's one of about fifteen or so different challenges to survive in the wilderness. And, most importantly, it does not apply when they're sleeping, so they still need to find shelter.

>>48323338
>Go play Fellowship for PbtA fantasy instead.
Wait, is that actually out? I've really been looking forward to that one.

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>>48323684
Oh god, I forgot to check on that. The one thing that would make this an absolute shitfest is it starting at level 1. Please tell me it starts at like 3 or 4 ish...

>>48324497
That's the plan, yes.

Shouldn't be super difficult.

>>48324469
Yeah, Fellowship is out. I've enjoyed what I've read of it, except that I wish that this LotR replicating game was less obviously LotR inspired.

>>48324592
Wait, you're starting characters at above level one AND giving them jack shit in starting gear? I'm not one of those m-muh wbl types, but that sounds super bad.

>>48324619
No, I'm starting them at level 1 and giving them jack shit in starting gear, but the literal first encounter is "Oh hey, some raggedy, worn out gear to help you not die immediately"

>>48324657
That's even worse

>>48324681
Skulls and Shackles did it. Best AP by far, at least the first module.

>>48323224
Every time you shitpost Sslarn, a Paizo fairy buys 3 copies of AM. You're literally keeping him in business.

>>48324681
Nowhere it says the group without equipment faces CR-appropriate encounters. Or combat encounters at all.

>>48324114
Its not ERP, I want emotions, shy physical contact and blushing, not stupid smut shit to jack off
I need to masturbate my heart.

>>48324711
Have things changed? I thought the first module was REVILED because of getting press-ganged and muh player agency?

>>48324711
Maybe I just prefer not being a blundering naked retard who can hit things gud/throw one/two spells maybe a day, to start out every campaign.

I might just me being bored of rusty shank town but I can't imagine too many enjoy the trek from being wet paper to damp cardboard(level 3)

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>>48324774
I know this need as well anon, but believe me, waifufaggotry is not the answer.

>>48324782
>muh player agency
People take this way too far. Any time a player is forced to do anything under any circumstances people freak the fuck out. It's as if a more powerful individual should ever exert their power.

>>48324783
*please don't assume I mean I completely hate this concept, it can work, and usually does, has for decades, but after playing for years one might feel it gets old when it usually it there to let the players get used to the system/ classes.

Is there a way to make an Inquisitor with mutagens?

>>48324935
VMC alchemist

>>48324807
Then what I should do? Irl women are the the absolute negation of romanticism. they're just deambulating fuckholes that think wearing a film of massmarketed cuteness is enough to disguise them convincingly as princessess

>>48324953
>Irl women are the the absolute negation of romanticism.
Maybe you should stop chasing sluts.

>>48324953
Go gay. It worked for me, and now I get to enjoy loving petplay with my sub, and it's fucking adorable.

>>48323727
So when the time has to come does your party stop for a while to throw a baby shower for 'em?

>>48324964
They're all sluts my man.
>>48324974
I tried to check my homosex level years ago watching some gay porn. After the initial shock, I fell asleep

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>>48323742
Go away, Virt.

>>48325146
>>48324953
Self fulfilling prophecy dickhead. You've decided that they're all like that so you treat them like that so they act like that. Stop being so fucking jaded.

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The Hellknights may be dumb but damn they know how to look cool

>>48325146
>>>/r9k/

>>48325253
Right? That's a classy motherfucker. Plus it's see-through.

>>48325239
Actually I've been dumped with the excuses like
>Why do you want to do X, you're not a teenager
>You act like an old man
>Are you gay in denial?
>Its creepy, can't we go to the club with the guys?

>>48325253
I hate myself a bit for liking the book so damn much.
Going to to come up with a Darth Vader-esque Wizard Hellknight Signifier because I fucking want to.

>>48325262
Okay, sorry for the blogging

>>48325381
Sounds like you're trying to date the wrong girls. That or you're a creep. Romance is just close friendship+intimacy. You need to find someone that you have that bond with.

>>48325381
>Why do you want to do X, you're not a teenager
>You act like an old man
Have you tried acting your age, faggot?

>>48325381
Anon you sound rather unpleasant to be around, going by your own examples

>>48325008

>"And here is a bassinet, infused with the bound spirit of the demon Al'Ghorro! He can disintegrate any unrecognized person who gets within 30 feet of the baby, AND play lullabies!"
>"I didn't know if it was a girl or a boy, so I got a greatsword and an earthbreaker."
>"Do you like the pram? I made it from the hollowed-out skull of an ogre!"

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>>48325253
I actually rather like the Hellknights now that they've been fleshed out more. Their older representations were pretty horrible.

>>48325419
Everyone apart the girls I date loves me pal.

>>48325485
Did mommy tell you that?

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>>48325253
Octavio is my husbando.

>>48325496
Nah, I don't see my family since I was teen

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I don't even know what this guy's deal is

>>48325434
>"And the blanket will always be warm because I wove it from the hair of an efreeti! I think it also might grant wishes..."
>"When the baby gets tired, I enchanted the rattle to get up and sing it a lullaby!"

>>48325526
That's a woman, anon.

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>>48325526

>>48325253
This guy looks like a kamen rider villain and I love it.

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>>48325485
>man on 4chan wants for waifufaggotry, calls all women sluts and claims that he is generally well liked

>>48325568
The ironic part is that for once I'm actually telling the truth.

>>48325610
>he's delusional
That's even worse.

>>48325621
You know what's even worse? the hole in my heart

>>48325557
>Brand of Conformity
>Cultural assimilation is literally a curse!
>We gotta keep our uniqueness!
>What do you mean that policy encourages the formation of ethnic ghettos, self segregation, and resentment of the host culture? Nuh-uh, it's not because people won't assimilate, it's because the host culture is racist! Unless the culture is a minority from our point of view, then it's perfectly okay to reject evil colonization.

>>48325894

Look on the bright side, at least now you can force people to assimilate to your nationalistic heart's content. You don't have to deal with the issue of having to be near minorities in order to impose your culture onto them!

After Pathfinder dies, what system do we move on to?

>>48325975
Savage Worlds

>>48325975
GURPS

>>48325894
I mean I think causing people to be potentially unable to speak all their languages sounds like a curse
Just be glad it doesn't have the [evil] descriptor

>>48326006
Pls no. I want something crunchy.

>>48326013
Please tell me more anon. I know literally nothing of GURPS.

>>48325894

Paizo's politics aside, the spell can potentially render someone incapable of verbal communication-I'd call that a nasty little debuff.

>>48325975

Whatever system you so desire. Wouldn't hold my breath if I were you, though.

>>48325975
Anima

>>48325975
Black Tokyo

>>48325975
Symbaroum

>>48325975
Fantasy Craft, as god intended.

>>48326033
Anima is too complicated and combat resolution is way too slow for it to ever appeal to more than a tiny fraction of the people who play Pathfinder. The lore is cool, the art is great, but it's never going to appeal to the same breadth of market. I've seen people back out of an Anima group just trying to decipher a character sheet, let alone trying to trudge through a combat where you have scaling critical effects and reactive defense rules.

>>48326107
I know, but I think it's cool anyway. Too bad I'm trapped in the PF-scape. Which is fine and all, I just want to try more than a session of the game sometime.

>>48326022
You know, I'm still ambivalent about my experience with Savage Worlds
On one hand, it was fun speedrunning combat, but on the other, having the players mow down absolutely everything before them with zero effort fresh out char generation was kind of disappointing

>>48325532
>also I tattooed the baby with an emergency enervation ray trap in case of attackers!

>>48324774
You're asking for smut essentially, you faggot. It doesn't matter what you're masturbating if you want to masturbate.

Just ERP with gentle femdom.

>>48325894
I mean it robs you of speech. It is a curse.

>>48326022
Savage Worlds is actually mad crunchy.

>>48325975
Death. Or another set of 3.X houserules sold on art and "balance".

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>>48326266
I hope you're joking.

Seeing as I haven't taken any metamagic feats up until this point (11th level necromancer), what would you all suggestion I take, I guess what is a "must have" metamagic feat to take?

>>48326551
That varies dramatically with what your main focus is. More information is required.

>>48326551
What class? What are you doing in general?

Hey there, Zootopia Anon here. Yesterday's game went well, but I didn't get the chance to write it up afterwards, so here's Storytime of Session Two:

>We start off with the team having just hit level 2, fixed their gear and rested for the night in the barracks. Goemon and Fujiko in jail while Lupin and Jigen were driven away.
>The Rhino Barbarian wakes up in the middle of the night with a bad feeling, and goes to check on the prisoner.
-Seriously, the 8-year-old kid was the one who thought to check on them.
>MFW no prisoners in the cell
>Team assembles STAT, quick search reveals a KO'd guard, missing his key ring. They determine that a leg got taken off the wooden chain in the cell, and was used to strike him through the bars. That lump is gonna SUCK in the morning
>Four other cells were opened, containing a total of six suspected Mafia operatives
-For those of you keeping score, this is where the Mafia Team would have made its start if they'd all picked that side.
>Officers Hops and Wilde are turned away from Mr. Big's residence, whatever favor they once had is obviously used up. Team sets out to track down the escapees with other officers are dispatched to try to get a lid on a crime spree carving a path from City Center to Seaside District.
>Group splits up into three cells. Dog Vitalist and Ibis Wizard take center cell to keep coms open. Panda Monk and Tiger Paladin take the regular sized streets to the west, Rhino Barb and Elephant Aegis take the larger-sized mammals to the East. They stay within a couple hundred feet of each other, but that's still a few blocks.
>Center team and the girls (monk and paladin) get abushed! Wiz and Vitalist are pinned down by a pair of snipers they can't quite isolate, other team is jumped by four Timber Wolf thugs in broad daylight

(continued)

>>48326583
>>48326587
Necromancer focused on disabling and weakening opposition and some undead minions on the side, enervation, blindness/ deafness, those kind of spells.

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>>48326635
>Zootopia Anon here

>>48326680
Quicken Spell, Maximise Spell, Spell Perfection (Enervation), Staff of the Master (Necromancy).

>>48326694
Chill bro, he's running a fun game for children.

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>>48326694

>>48326551
Extend is always amazing.

>>48326694
Dude, he's running a game for little kids. Not cool, man.

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>he's running a furry pathfinder game for little kids
Sounds pretty safe

>>48326780
>He's running an RPG for kids, when Zootopia just released and kids are all over it
I mean, yeah, giving kids kid-friendly entertainment is probably fairly safe, anon. Not everyone is a degenerate.

>>48326725
>>48326708
Noted, thank you. Probably will either go for quickened or extended, for those times I might want an enemy sickened for 20 minutes

>>48326780
>The target audience for Zootopia is primarily kids
>The kids asked to play a game based on Zootopia
Cool your jets.

>>48326805
Don't forget Staff of the Master (Necromancy).

What would be a good special ability to put on a Greataxe being used by a villainous Orc leading other Orcs to invade/colonize a frozen northland? I'm thinking of making it a +1 Cruel Greataxe, but I know most AP weapons have a neat affect added to them.

I'd like it to be on par with the other major magic items found in the game - one's a magical Warg Pelt that grants constant endure elements vs. cold, a +1 resistance bonus to saves, and grants the Scent ability if you wear its hood as a head item (the hood being the skull and fur of the Warg). The other is +1 Glorious (Glory Born, basically, with an added bonus to charisma saves because you're showing off how SWOLE you are) Hide armor that gives +10 enhancement to movement speed, and lets you shapeshift into a White Hart for 2 hours a day. The party will be around level 5 or 6 at the time they fight the guy using it.

>>48326820
It's on my "to buy" list, and will work wonders with the staff of dark flames I have

>>48326821
Targets hit by the axe cannot benefit from Endure Elements and similar effects for as long as the wounds last?

>>48326821
Give the axe a ignore difficult terrain, earthquake and watherbreathing effect, and make the party fight the orc on a frozen lake
possibly filled with bad shit at the bottom

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Is this the ultimate method of determining a creature's alignment?

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/c-d/truecolor-dye
>Price 50 gp

>Truecolor dye produces vibrant colors, yet the actual color that registers varies according to the personality and temperment of the viewer—the viewer’s good, neutral, or evil alignment component determines the color he sees. Good viewers see a pleasing gold, while evil viewers see a rich blood red. A neutral viewer sees the dye as its actual color, a dull orange.

It has no minimum HD, and it goes directly through a Ring of Mind Shielding and Undetectable Alignment.

>>48326635

>Civilians in both areas panic and run towards the Large Streets, meaning the big guys are suddenly occupied with not crushing these guys and trying to make sure they don't get stampeded.
-I will note that I did not plan on them splitting up, the snipers were originally supposed to support the wolves, but the stampede problem just worked out too well.
>Wolves get to meet FLURRY OF BLOWS when they try to jump a hand-to-hand grand master. Paladin backs off a pace and gets to support fires, she heard the snipers firing at allies but doesn't know who's in trouble.
>Center team isolates one of the snipers close enough to drop a Sleep on him, they get close through the fires of the second sniper to cuff up a chameleon. Vitalist takes the chance to send word out to the rest of the team to coordinate what's happening. Wizard starts generally returning fire with his blaster (crossbow), and pops off a Magic Missile any time he gets a clear enough look to lock onto his opponent. Not close enough for Color Spray, only had one Sleep.
>Pack Tactics take down the monk before the paladin can lay the last one low, suit autoinjector (directed by the Vitalist) stabilizes her until the paladin can administer LoH
>Big Guys get their situation cleared up and come stampeding towards the remaining foe, more or less ignoring incoming bullets. Last sniper falls silent, he escaped. Something about five tons of angry officer barreling down on him.
>Team gets the situation stabilized, ties up the criminals until ZPD forces can secure them. By this time, the stampede has cooled, but a few people are hurt since the Big Guys left before the situation fully stabilized.

(to be concluded)

>>48326936
With some effort, you can theoretically make it like a colour blind test so that only viewers of a particular alignment can see a secret code written with the ink.

>>48326821
Or you could put an Ice devil imprisoned inside the axe, with wielder being able to summon it at his command once a day for one minute/number of intelligent creatures slayed
Axe would be apparently just a +2 with frost burst, or how was it called

>>48326936
Only if you have some method of reading their mind or otherwise coercing them to truthfully tell you what color they see, in which case why bother with the dye at all?

>>48326952

>Team gets called back to the office by Chief Bogo, the after-action on this was interesting. No censure due to taking care of a freaking sniper, but the IC discussion about actions and consequences was an eye-opener
-No joke, those four kids and two adults had a 20-minute discussion almost-fully in character about choices that might not have a black and white answer, weighing risks, and the law of unintended consequences. I was proud.
>It is currently lunch in-game and dinner out-of-game, after a brief bit to eat (and for the panda to get patched up more fully plus incidental bullet wounds to the big guys and Ibis), they decide to press on. Ibis makes sure to tell the jailer that these guys are crafty.
>They head to Tundra Town to try to get a handle on Mr. Big's forces, game ends as they hole up for a stakeout.

That's where it ended for the night.

>>48326881
Oho, that one's NICE, at least in principle. Plus, not so overpowered for the Player Characters, though it could come with some neat RP points if they can leverage it (cutting themselves on their own axe and deliberately failing the save to prove their resolve to other barbarian tribes.).

Targets wounded by the axe must make a fort-save equal to the damage dealt, or suffer from a malignant curse. Until the wounds are healed and the curse is broken by Remove Curse or similar, they cannot benefit from the Endure Elements spell, or similar effects.

Also ties in with the fact that the Orc in question is a Harbinger (or a Warder, haven't decided) who makes heavy use of the Cursed Razor discipline.

>>48327051
And it's especially a big fucking deal in the frozen north where not having Endure Elements can be a death sentence. The guy doesn't even have to kill his victims himself, the weather does it for him. Then any survivors live to spread the tale of the savagery and etc.

I like giving the players items with unique abilities. Most players prefer their +1/+2 to more fun stuff. I most base the abilities off of existing creatures, like a bone devil axe making you grow bone protrusions, or a imp dagger with a flexible sting attack.

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>>48327001

DC 25 Knowledge (geography or nature) checks are not particularly easy to make, and even if they can make the check, they will still have to Bluff an answer if they wish to mislead.

I would sooner trust the results of a "What color is this [hair/piece of cloth]?" test than an even more fallible and subvertible divination.

>>48327076
Yeah. Even when you're treated as if you're wearing a Cold Weather Outfit when you're ass naked (as the natives are, it's part of the magic of the northern bloodline), having to make a save every hour or 10 minutes against 1d6 non-lethal cold damage is nasty.

>>48326936
That relies on people both telling the truth at all times, as well as not being aware of the secret of the dye. However, what >>48326977 said works well as a test; color an entire canvas blood-red, then dye a message like "Hello" in the truecolor. If they can see the message, they're Good or Neutral.

>>48327085
Touhou, can you take a vacation like Gareth did, please? I think it'd do good for everyone.

Anyone ever played or GM'd Curse of the Golden Spear? Is it any good?

Gonna play an initiator tiefling. Any ideas how to handle my aligned outsider aura without relying on a stray stream of cosumables, like potions of undetectable alignment ?

>>48327417
Tieflings don't have an evil aura just for being Tieflings.

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>>48326333
It is a blatant d20 hack with a bunch of heartbreaker options, several mechanical dials, buckets of Splatbooks and what is essentially effects based power design with D&D feats on top.

You're confusing "crunchy" with "HERO system level autism," which GURPSbabbies tend to do. That being said, the HERO system is crunchy even relating to the system you think replaces exercise as a statement of masculinity.

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>>48327183

A fair point, since that would ensure that the target could not simply employ Bluff; they would have to be able to see the word in order to confirm it.

Anyone have Nautical Heroes from Legendary Games?

>>48327417
Yeah, that only applies to [Good] and [Evil] outsiders, not Good or Evil outsiders

How neutral is too neutral? I'm having a hard time being dedicated TN without appearing evil.

>>48326780
Just because you're jacking off over the corruption of innocent children doesn't mean that's what's happening.

Take your (you) and hit the bricks.

>>48327678

You know you're too neutral when A.) you don't do jack shit because being actively helpful or unhelpful is too extreme to you, or B.) you treat your alignment like a karmic checkbook and act heroic/villainous to counteract everything anyone else does.

>>48327678
Are you retarded?

>>48328224
No, I'm neutral.

>>48327678
The best way I've seen a well-played TN described is that you do what's best, even if it's not what's right.

>>48327532
It's still got a lot of holes, not least that alignments can change.
I think the best probable use of it is dying all your stuff gold, then writing in, for example, "Lamashtu Gargles Chodes" all over it and murdering back anyone that starts screaming and trying to murder you over it. A fanatic detector, as it were.

Actually, how does one undesecrate evil altars and the like? Just clean the bloodstains out, or set it on fire and toss on incense, or what?

Hey there, N. Jolly here. I'm currently in the middle of MHG, so I'm going to let the playtest run for another few days since I haven't been able to get into the doc enough to make changes.

DM is letting me take leadership. What is a good cohort to take that will be fun, useful, and not cause any arguments?

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>>48329099
Monster Hunter G?

Maybe Hot Guy?

Mystery Hot Girl?

Marvel Heroic Game?

Mega Hyper Giga?

>>48329125

Get yourself a blink dog

>>48329125
Instructor Wizard. 2 cohorts for the price of one.

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>>48329151
But I'm a halfling...

>>48329168

You know exactly what to do.

>>48329151
for what purpose?
>>48329165
We already have a wizard in the party, and I don't want to slow down the game too much. we already have 6 PCs.

>>48329209

Because they're cool? And they're teleporting dogs? So when you're playing ball with one and your tennis ball goes into your neighbor's yard, you can just have your dog teleport and get the ball? Why NOT have a blink dog?

>>48329209
What does the party look like right now? Classes/races that is.

>>48329246
AC tank paladin. Generalist wizard. Unchained rogue. Empiricist investigator. Dervish dancer bard. Zen archer.

Level 9.

>>48329266
Which one are you?

>>48329266
I'd say Cleric or Druid. There is a severe lack of divine casting in that party.

>>48329351
Unless he's the Paladin, in which case his Code of Conduct prevents him from having a non-LG cohort, which bars the Druid entirely.

>>48328973
I don't see why you'd use magic dye for that, unless you were worried about paladins chewing you out over naughty words.

And you just cast consecrate on them.

>>48329266
Get a gunner, nothing in the world can't be solved by shooting at it.

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>>48329099
Nice dubs Jolly

The playtest seems to be slowing down a lot. I'm sure there's a lot of stuff still left that needs tweaking or changing, but changes have slowed down a lot. The only thing offhand that needs more work is Noble Soul, who gets really shafted in the talent department for what you're getting, especially when the archetype is locked into LG. I'm disappointed that Violent Child also looks like it got totally gutted since I last looked at things, but that's not unreasonable considering the iterations I saw before. I vaguely recall one guy wanting you to give the Magical Child a 6th level version of Arcanist casting, which would have actually been really cool, but it'd also probably be over complicated.

I still want a social talent to unlock Tattoo Chamber to all specializations, as well as turn familiars into Tattoo Familiar. A Vigilante Talent that combines Great Fortitude and Toughness just seems right too, but maybe I'm just projecting.

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>>48329474
I'm just trying to figure out how you reverse blaspheme demons and stuff. Generally, you can easily conceptually deconsecrate stuff by soiling it, but what about the inverse? Would putting up flypaper strips around a shrine of Urgathoa help weaken her presence there? Would washing a blood-caked sacrificial stone and scrubbing it help reduce its power? Can you reduce the evilness of a sacrificial knife by using it to dig a carrot garden?

>>48329585
I like all of those ideas, but I have to add an addendum that the carrot garden has to be used to feed an orphanage or the homeless or something.

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>>48323264
>mfw DM overslept
>rest of party wants to try 5e instead
>autism everywhere

>>48325975
I've been playing 5e, SR and M&M with my mates to keep ourselves from burnout.

You guys should keep an open mind and try it out. The fun is from the social interactions anyways, the games are only the medium for it.

>>48329585
It would annoy them, but I don't think it would make a dent in anything backed up with magic.

>>48329209
Make him a buff/heal bot.

>>48329440
actually he can have any cohort within one step of Lawful/Good. He can't have an evil one.

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>>48323264
The VERY long-running Reign of Winter game that recruited from here over a year ago has finally concluded, with the only thing left being a speedrun of the Emerald Spire using level 20 mythic tier 1 characters as an epilogue. It ended with a giant robot fistfight.

>>48329875
Who won best girl?

>>48329755
>the games are only the medium for it.
>IM-FUCKING-PLYING
I've had what should have been good games destroyed by shitty systems that demoralized the GM and have had average games carried by fun systems. I don't buy this for a second.

>>48329905
The desperado warlord who later became king of Irrisen by blood eagling most of the Jadwiga.

>>48329955
I'm sorry if your personal experience doesn't coincide with mine. Sounds like an issue with your group if you guys can't seem to derive fun out of a GAME.

So I've been out of the loop for the past three days, any fun games currently recruiting?

>>48330062
>games
>recruiting
>games recruiting in this shithole

ohohohohohoho

>>48330062
Dungeon World needs more players.

>>48329626
>>48329845
I mean, you generally see 'good' magic items and the like weakened by misuse, or 'good' places and objects ruined by 'evil' means, I'm just applying the obvious inverse.

>>48330133

Didn't LotLK and DTG campaigns recruit from here? They sound exceptionally chill.

Hey guys, anyone have a game that's recruiting?

>>48330037
Tell that to Exalted.

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>>48330062
Have you tried this game? >>48276835

>>48330133
I just really want to play. I have applied to a few roll20 games with no luck. I don't think it's me. Maybe I'm the problem.

>>48330236
Man, FUCK Exalted. I'll agree with you there. also, FUCK Vampire the Masquerade.

>>48330270
Pretty sure it filled up

>>48330270

That's literally a two-player game with one spot already taken.

I need a four player adventure with you turbo-nerds.

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>>48330282
Probably not, bro. Lots of people want to play PF, but not many people want to run it; it's not just you.

Hang in there, and I'm sure you'll find a great game!

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I remember when I tried to look for a pathfinder game in /tg/ and the autistic DM wanted to shove some Homebrew setting and system when I specified in my post that I was just willing to play Pathfinder.Never again.

>>48330282
The hard part just seems to be finding a DM, maybe one day luck will shine on you and you'll get into a nice one!

>>48330170
LotLK recruited from here, yes.

>>48330554
>>48330513

I've been wanting to run a campaign in my Original The Setting to get a feel for it.

What would you suggest for Point Buy, assuming PoW:E content is already built into the world and the players are expected to start, at minimum, at level 3?

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>>48330592
20 pb is the standard

>>48330592
20 or 25, I personally prefer 25. No more than 25 though.

>>48330615
For munchkins.

>>48330649
C'mon, at least make your shitposting interesting.

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>>48330615
>>48330643

I'll probably go for 32 PB.

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>>48330706
Brother

>>48330661
>>48330684
Rollplayers detected. Go back to Giantitp.

>>48330706
32 PF style or 32 3.5 style?

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>>48330847
Just stop posting senpai.

>>48330312
>>48330406
Did it fill up? I thought no one wanted to play with 2hu.

>>48330871
What's the difference? I actually don't know, since I usually use a PB Calculator

>>48330932
32 3.5 PB is equivalent to 25 PF PB; IIRC (haven't done 3.5 point buy in years), it's because 3.5 starts at all eights and PF starts at all tens?

>>48330932
>>48331012
32 3.5 is 20 PB PF equivalent.

>>48331033
Thanks. Like I said, it's been a loooong while.

>>48331033
That makes sense, considering the 2 point difference between an 8 and a 10.

I use PF 32 point buy

>>48331049
Little higher power than I'm used to, but then again, so is PoW stuff, mostly. I'd give it a shot.

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So the other day someone brought up the idea of a Vigilante archetype that can make other people take up the mask. I'm just going to throw out a few ideas for abilities.

>Take Up the Mask
>Vigilante can select 1/2 level + Cha friendly creatures per day to become simulacra of himself for 24 hours, including sharing his dual identity. Unless they have class levels, in which case they gestalt the vigilante levels they gain with their existing class levels.
>gained at level 10, so a 20th level vigilante can make 10th level vigilantes that can make 5th level vigilantes

>More than flesh
>1/day vigilante selects [leadership score] creatures to become 1st level vigilantes (or gestalting if they have class levels) that share his dual identity, plus they gain teamwork feats. Any deaths or shit counts against his leadership score. Lasts for Cha levels.
>With leadership he doubles the number
>Gained at level 17 in place of social talent

>>48331066
Higher point buy actually promotes better class variety.

With 32 you can have competent martial characters, while MAD characters don't really get any better than they would be on 15 PB, since they don't really gain anything from having a greater number of decent stats.

>>48331116
Yeah, I know. I'm just mostly used to 25 PB or bust.

>>48330170
DTG did, but I think it died?

>>48331137
25 isn't bad, I just personally like 32 for the ability to go 14 14 14 14 14 15 before racials, so having a 10 is like dumping.

>>48331209
Fair enough!

>>48331187
It's going to start back up soon, it did take a long break though. Mostly because having 18 people in the same room is a bit too much.

>>48331232
>18 people
Jesus fucking christ, what?

>>48323194
Lashers. Successful products of mad science please me.

>>48331258
Crossover between the two games. It was just as bad as you think it was.

>>48331082
Isn't there already a sort of 3rd party variation of that? http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/vigilante

>>48331280
>>48331232
Yeah, it was a cluster. When you get like 18 people(GM's boy toy joined) with varying different play styles and mannerisms shit tends to blow up.

>>48331209
>>48331137
>>48331116
25 Point-Buy is good enough for almost anything, although if everyone's insisting on playing a party like Fighter/UnRogue/Kineticist/Paladin then 30-point-buy can help everyone contribute without anyone needing to dump anything lower than a 10.

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>>48327258
Better L5R than L5R.

>>48331343
...Go on.

>>48331337
>Playing with people you're in a relationship
Why am I not surprised that his game was a shitshow

>>48330871

32 Pathfinder style.

You guys are supposed to have the spark of heroes within you, and that should be reflected by your character being inherently better than most.

>>48331033
32 PB is equivalent to Pathfinder's 25 point buy, IIRC.

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>>48331353
Okay, that's not true.

It's about filthy gaijin getting shipped off to not-Japan, BUT, the twist is that it's less about not-Japan's mundane society as it is about the spooky horror stuff.

It's themed after "kaidan," Japanese ghost stories.

>>48331370
So are you actually recruiting? I'm definitely interested.

>>48331355
>>48331337
Now that's just a low blow.
There's two groups, each of about 6-8 players depending on how many people can attend each session. They do different things individually, are in completely different parts of Golarion, and are effectively distinct and unaffecting of each other.
There was a crossover event to get the plot a kick-start on both sides instead of each team grumbling and doing long-term individual planning like some sixth-dimensional inn where everyone's in their own shady corner on their own. It ended up being a clusterfuck because not only where there 16-18 players at any one time, but each group had developed different playstyles and personalities distinct from one-another that didn't mesh well under the context of the crossover. Both groups (and the GM) have taken a hiatus for a long while, and will soon get back to gaming and settle back into their playstyles.

>>48331423
It seems like >>48331337 was actually a part of the game. Why don't you ask them what issues they have?

>>48329317
The zen archer. Sorry for the reply my router committed suodoku.

We don't have a divine caster but the alchemist had restoration and is already really "support" focused. A party member suggested bard?

>>48323194
Okay you fuck, what's the backstory of the LEAST magical realm race in this book?

>>48331523
see
>>48323383

>>48331488
I'm part of that game too, dumbass.

>>48331523
Not that fuck, but there are a couple of magical science experiments (Ropers fused with Dwarves, and a different Gargoyle/Dwarf hybrid)

>>48331523

This one sounds pretty SFW: >>48323383

>>48331332
I'm not sure what you're linking me to, anon, it's just the Vigilante's page.

>>48331545
Then go take your faggot drama back to it, and stop shitting up the fucking thread. You and goddamn Touhoufag and this fucking DSP bullshit.

>>48331489
Resurrection spells don't come cheap, and spammable Walls of Stone are really nice to have, plus Hold Person is a 2nd level spell for clerics where it is 3rd for everyone else.

Druids have the best CC spell list, so if you need some battlefield control that would be a good option a support alchemist can't really fill.

>>48331623
What kind of stuff on the Druid list is good?

>>48331544
What are Trixies like?

>>48331690
20 foot speed shitlords.

>>48331579
I never brought up drama, other people did. Go fuck yourself and the horse you rode in on with a rusty cactus. Yeah I'm mixing my metaphors, fuck you.

>>48331721
It's okay, anon. Nobody cares about you anyway, so it's alright to be as retarded as you want. It, and you, will never matter.

>>48331402

Well I'm recruiting in the sense that a game *will* happen, eventually.

What I need to know from you nerds is what kind of campaign do you actually want, since the setting has something to offer everyone, from high-stakes political intrigue where the players rule the fate of empires to light-hearted adventure with minimal threat of injury and maximum comfort.

Hell, I've even got a Not!Kingmaker area if you want to become the Kings of the Not!England set during something analogous to the Heptarchy.

>>48331569
My apologies, I must have misread what you were going for earlier with the idea.

>>48331792
No problem broski.

>>48331787
Personally I like games that are challenging but not meatgrinders, with downtime for character interaction and not just 'okay a month passed, what did y'all do?'. Comfy is good but not if that's the only thing. High stakes political intrigue, I think, works best if it's eased into a game, so that the players and the DM are on the same wavelength with regards to politicking, be that having pages and pages of speeches and bribes and public gestures all planned out before a big session or I ROLL DIPLOMACY or something in between. High stakes games really require everyone to be on the same wavelength.

>>48331916
Wow, I wrote that poorly. OH WELL

>>48331636
Entangle + upgraded forms like Thorny Entanglement, Obscuring Mist, Burst of Radiance, Euphoric Cloud, Flaming Sphere, Gust of Wind, Gusting Sphere, Fog Cloud, Frost Fall, Ice Slick, Stone Call, Summon Swarm, Aqueous Orb, Hydraulic Torrent, Ice Spears, Plant Growth, Shifting Sand, Sleet Storm, Swarm of Fangs, Greater Thunderstomp, and Wind Wall.

And that's just up to 3rd level spells.

>>48331082
I was figuring just sharing out talents rather than giving them gestalts. If anyone else has read it, I was also definitely thinking Grin from 70-Seas, with the 'body hopping'.
Specifically thinking the X Appearance abilities, though any of the demoralise stuff would be good.
Only problem is that for PCs, it's going to take a bit of work and leadership bullshit to get followers fanatical enough to catch spears for you by dressing up as the manbat.

Still, sharing out your social talents and spookiness talents by having people dress as you seems pretty reasonable to me.

>>48332007
Also that's just for CC effects. They also get access to things like Resist/Protection from Energy, summon nature's ally spells, various elemental spells that let them attempt to blast, but not as well as an arcane caster could, and some defensive spells that are mainly just good situationally because of the Druids unlimited access to its spell list.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/t/touch-of-truthtelling

This is a fantastic social spell because you can visually tell whether someone passed or failed it, so you can use it on yourself or other willing creatures to prove that they're not lying.

But, does /pfg/ know any ways to fool the spell?
Things that allow you to lie while still letting the spell affect you so the temporary visual effect appears.
I know of that one vigilante talent but not much else.

>>48331370
Most people are 3 PB on the NPC stat block. Heroic NPCs are 15 PB. Being 25 puts you above 99.99% of people you meet (actually might be smaller, metropolis might have 2 people build on 20 or higher point buy by standard).

>>48332288
Why is finding a game so difficult? Why is roll20 so bad? I think I'm the one who has the problem because it seems like everyone here has games.

>>48325418
>Changing who you are because of arbitrary numbers and expectations set by other people
I think you may actually be a literal fuck.

>>48332304
Because the majority of good players can find themselves a game in person, rather than online. Many online players come online because they are either isolated or unaccepted in their local groups.

So, we kind of have the sloppy seconds of the gaming community online. We can find games, sure, but the people in them generally have a few people you don't want to associate with.

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Hey /pfg/

I threw together an Armorist archetype which pulls from Henshin Hero. Given that Armorists are a little low-key and Transformation Trinkets and Motif Baubles exist as items, I don't feel too bad about giving them a little bit.

Any thoughts?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pzq--m5LWaD_WuotPdiK6HNxN3z-L4vK2M1bKyeqBXk/edit?usp=sharing

>>48332619
is the iconic a kobold

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>>48332640
You need to upgrade your memegame, fampai.

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>>48332715

Two questions:

Is a wand of Prestidigitation worth it?

And two, can Mage Hand give tactile feedback? Cause I want to telekinetically cop a feel.

>>48332760
A wand of prestidigitation is 375, you can get an at use for like... 1000 gold? 500 if you make it yourself.

>>48332760
Why not just get it as a cantrip if you're going to use it that much?

Also: No.

>>48332349
This. I've had good success with online games, but that's because I have a tight-knit group of friends I've been playing with for years.

>>48332775

I'm playing an Occultist, who doesn't get prestidigitation. This really shot my hopes and dreams down.

>>48332828
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/magic-traits/two-world-magic

happy birthday, fampai.

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>it's a "guy with no filter spouting contrarian opinions and fielding bizarre, inappropriate questions" episode

>>48332895
When did this happen?

>>48332895
This isn't the place for that, you should know better.

>>48332908
>>48332975
I just got back from a game where I sat through it, did I miss something?

New thread: >>48333028

>>48333028
>>48333028
>>48333028
>>48333028

>>48331690
Gnomes with pixie wings.

>>48323264
Just hit 3rd level, I have ~2700 gold and I'm playing a wilder. I have no idea what magic items to buy, or if I should just hold on to my gold.

My stats are as follows str 5, 16 dex, 17 con, 13 int, 11 wis, 18 cha. I've got 28 hp from 2 max HP rolls.

I've also got one feat to burn, previously I took extended blast. we eventually plan on going into mythic ranks, and I'm planning on picking up the mythic crafter stuff there, so I'm avoiding crafting feats currently as I don't want to have to retrain out of them.