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>>48313621
OP's image is saved so hard.

How do you guys potray Nyarlathotep, I lean towards formal/eloquent with black comedy sprinkled in and some hamminess added for fun.

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Reminder that eldritch horrors are not for smooching too much.

>>48314723
Nyarlathotep always reminds me of those characters you see in cartoons that antagonizes or helps the main characters in different roles but is still the same person. Kinda like the devil in Cow & Chicken or Rancid Rabbit from Catdog.

>>48314657

Believe it or not, that post was from a thread on /x/ about Lovecraftian horror movies. I'm bound to get this wrong, but >>>/x/17893182 It's archived now, sadly.

>>48315064
Christ, I was there when it happened. Shit was great.

>>48314723
I always imagined Nyarlathotep to be extremely regal and charismatic. He was likened to a pharaoh by Lovecraft himself.

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>Case Officer's Hankbook will never come out

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>>48314723
>>48316035

I lean toward the same. When taking a human form, he is supposed to be very regal and charismatic. On the other hand, he's pretty much messing with humanity for the lulz, and is fully aware that nothing on Earth can really do more than slightly inconvinience him, so I imagine he'd often take a very mocking or sarcastic tone when dealing with humans who overestimate their own importance, and probably doesn't take anything all that seriously (because in the end, it is all inconsequential to him). And if he somehow gets beaten, he probably throws a huge tantrum because things didn't go as he planned and that wasn't even supposed to be possible to happen.

>>48313621
Can you please stop using HPL for your constant shitthreads? It'll never be a meme.

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>>48317537
>very mocking or sarcastic tone when dealing with humans who overestimate their own importance
in dream quest he was more "yeah I woulda helped you but I knew youd do it anyway, now shut up and get on this bird", which to me comes across as more dismissive of humanity's worthiness of his attention than outright mocking

>>48315064
So is it just one person jizzing over AM1200 or are there actually multiple people that think it's such hot shit? I thought it was merely okay and I was disappointed that I was able to guess the ending.

>>48319713
On the other hand, "Whispers in the Darkness " includes th line about wow Nyarlathotep "will don the vaxen mask and wear the robe that hides, and come down from the world of the seven suns to mock mankind".

I like Trail of Cthulhu's rules better. Is there a Delta Green for it, with modern professions and such?

>>48321200
Esoterrorists is the closest thing out of the box. I'd try adapting something from Night's Black Agents though.

>>48319817

Hell if I know, but I enjoyed it enough to buy a hard copy and the poster.

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Heres a bump with a deep one child

>>48324113
I'm surprised that you can actually read the text.

>>48319817
I liked it.

>>48324337
"The corn is where we keep the ---- they're fed."
I can't tell that one part.

How do I balance lethal situations for my players? I am scared of putting them against a real threat, in fear of killing them off accidentally. It's an insecurity on my part, I'm scared of not being fair with them, so I go too soft on them.

What are some good TV shows that aren't explicitly Lovecraftian but can make good campaign fodder?

So far I have Twin Peaks, True Detective, and Stranger Things.

>>48325065
-- children. see to it that --

>>48325065
>being afraid of killing your players
There's your problem.

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>>48325089
I actually think Gotham has a perfect aesthetic for cosmic horror. Just think about it.

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>>48325280
Already done, man. By Mike Mignola no less.

>>48325215
Alright. So balance between wacky fun and difficult challenges? Depends on the GM and players is the answer, ain't it?

>>48325321
I actually meant Gotham, the show, due to his request for television... But holy fuck that gives me a boner.

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>>48325346
Indeedy.

>>48325423
I wish we had an image Y'golonac tipping a fedora.

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>>48325632
Real goats are already eldritch enough

>want to run delta green
>new DM book is still far off in the distance
>don't want to start a campaign with the older material and then have to switch
help

>>48325632
Shubby, you look lovely today.

>>48325280
Hadn't thought about that. Good idea.
>>48325321
What about A Serious House on Serious Earth and all of Morrison's stuff about Professor Pyg?

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>Find a CoC game at last
>Players seem to be alright; they are on the pulpy/annoying side of things but look like genuinely decent people
>GM is decent
>The scenario quickly devolves into pulpy fun and "lol I throw dynamite at the Dark Young"
>Everyone has a tonnes of magic and killing a person nets to sanity loss
I had fun in the end. But it wasn't the kind of fun I was looking forward to.

Is it even possible to have a good CoC game nowadays?

>>48325686
Is the new players book out already? I led the short pre-release adventure they had and it looked fun.

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>>48324113
Whenever one of Lovecraft's wicked and vile aberrations made actual vocalization, could hearing this creature cause a man to go crazy, bleed out his orifices or would he just get a minor headache?

In fact are there any established alien languages prevalent throughout any of his stories with names and everything?

Can someone post that mythos coloring book?

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>>48328018
The thing?

>>48327302
You let them get access to powerful spells to early and/or you're not having them really suffer the effects of sanity loss.

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>>48328347
Loving this art dump

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>>48328534
>When the stars are right and she keeps suckin

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>>48328534
That seems like it's about to cum.

>>48328132
I am not the GM man, I just joined the game. When I ran CoC I never allowed spells at all except once or twice at pretty much the cost of retiring the character.

The GM is really trying but he doesn't even give us that much sanity loss and when he does it's pretty much inconsequential. Plus he seldom narrates.

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So, in my quest to try and make the mythos tomes less... obvious, here's my thoughts on the Cultes Des Ghoules:

In 1703, the French Newspaper La Gazette serialized what they claimed were the dairies of the disgraced and reclusive Francoir-Honore Balfour, the Count of Erlette (a small region neighbouring the Averoigne Valley.)
The Count was well known for having fallen victim to leprosy, hence his seclusion within his home.
The dairies recorded an entirely different story. During a famine in the 1690s, when he was still a young boy; the count was inducted into a strange cult of his forefathers; involving such disgraceful acts as cannibalism, necrophilia, and the occult. The diaries continued with his growing role as a member of this society, until he was in command of a vast network of grave robbers all over France.

Naturally, the publishing of these diaries was not seen as a positive thing. The church denounced them as blasphemous, Balfour himself refuted them, and the paper issued a retraction. The diaries were dismissed as a hoax (in the same vain as the Hitler Diaries, nearly two centuries later)

The public was all too eager to believe the story that the diaries were slander designed to ruin the crippled Count's name.
Certainly the shame was enough to make many of his family abandon him, journeying to America to leave their past behind.

The Count himself remained confined to his manor, until his death two decades later.

The truth never emerged.
The diaries were completely genuine: The Count's disfigurement came not from leprosy but a ghoulish transformation, and many of the rituals described within were authentic ghoulish religious ceremonies.

Fortunately, few records remain of the diaries. The French Revolution and the Reign of Terror which followed resulted in many copies being destroyed, and La Gazette possessed only a single copy when they closed their presses in 1915.
By the modern era, only a dozen are known to remain.

Alright lads, I got a concern. I'm very into Delta Green, and really want to run it to my typically-D&D-playing group.

I'm reading Dennis Detwiller's article On Creepiness (http://www.delta-green.com/2013/07/delta-green-creepiness-a-how-to-guide/), and several things jump out at me from the page

>Death is not only part of Delta Green, it is the basis of it. It is a game about human frailty and death, about the struggle against the unknown despite the fact that victory is never possible.

>... humans, unless they are exceedingly careful and clever, have almost no chance of even a limited victory.

>This is not a game about winning, it is a game about surviving to fight another day.

I have no issues with such statements. But I worry about my group becoming apathetic if they sense their characters are meat for an eldritch grinder when the chips are down. How do I sell DG to them? Ever had a similar problem?

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>>48328737
It's not the apathy is a problem but the reverse. You see, if it's impossible to preserve a character for long time, people stop forming attachments to them and take it to mean that any crazy shit is possible because "lol I will just roll a new character xD"

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>>48328851
>Literally a booger monster

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>>48328777
Yeah, I've never been a fan of the whole "almost no chance to win" idea.

It's like with Convergence in the DG core book.
Your Investigators have to either be paranoid nutcases unsuitable for their day jobs; or take out the mi-go lab. If they don't do that, they're dead.

>>48328694
This is some good shit.

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>>48329079
How do you get around that?

>>48329153
This Hastur design is pretty rad and Sauron Crown is nice touch.

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Carcosa Tracts need to be a thing.

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>>48327451

When the Mi-go speaks, pretending to be a human, the voice is described as having a strange quality to it and the air has an odd, pressurised feeling.. but then, that's a minor horror (an alien) actively pretending to be human. Similarly the Yith can be spoken to and are quite chatty, actually.

>>48329264
Don't drink the water. Don't eat the food.
Of course, canonically, according to Delta Green: Countdown. You fail. Everyone dies, except for one of those aforementioned nuts.

I'm trying to adapt the traveller chargen system to use it with CoC 7e, anyone want to try this and post the results?

http://pastebin.com/mijb1qsE

>>48314657
But anon . . . OP . . . is a negro.

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>>48329538

Dude seems weirdly casual about the whole thing.

"Oh, an ungodly meat thing is rupturing forth from my noggin. Or maybe it's penetrating my brain-stuff, the wee beggar. Must be Tuesday."

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>>48329723
no he is a faggot

>>48329723
Or worse Welsh.

>>48327161
>the hippo wins

>>48329781
Hey, did Lovecraft himself every say anything about gay people?

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>>48329714
I'm not too familiar with 7e so I probably can't comment.

Just in case it might be interesting, the Laundry RPG (based on BRP) has a similar idea.

>>48329786
It appears my sides are now orbiting around Azathoth.

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>>48329943
Nyarly is looking darling today.

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>>48329822
He befriended one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._H._Barlow

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>>48329999
The Pharaoh does it again

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>>48330047
Why is the Faceless God so damn good at fashion? It's not fair to face against Nyarly.

So, beyond lolNecronomicon and the Culte Des Lols, what "new" mythos-y tomes have you concocted?

Here's one I came up with for a Trail of Cthulhu game based around West Yorkshire.

>Peccata Cives Leodiensis, or "Sins of the Citizens of Leeds"
>Date: ~1725
>Authour: Ralph Thoresby
>A commonplace book or journal by a minor local historian and diarist, Peccata appears to be something of a personal gossip rag. Thoresby, being a merchant and society type, uses his position to observe and infer a number of failings of character among local luminaries; a judge too fond of wine, a barrister who hires and fires house staff at a notable rate.
>Thoresby was also an antiquarian and interested in the Roman remains in the local area, even operating a small museum of some renown. Through his trade in antiques, he comes across a man named Benjamin Stowe, who he instantly dislikes and makes salacious speculation about the private habits of on very little hard evidence. Through Stowe, Thoresby acquires artefacts and each transaction or interaction with Stowe seems to lead Thoresby to infer a new sin. Examinations of several of the "queer carvings" and "stone daggers - Etruscan?" also lead to new imagined sins.
>Thoresby evidently suspected Stowe was lying to him about the source of the artifacts he was selling, and fact-checked by seeking out to an area called "the tomb of two Emperors", which Thoresby connects to York. He evidently plans to head to York and find evidence to bring against Stowe.
>The last pages of the book are less sensical to the sane reader but of interest to the Mythos scholar, for it describes a harrowing jaunt into the depths of a Roman tomb south of York; a listing and translation of bottle labels, herbs and salts contained therein. It ends with a terrified description of Benjamin Stowe's facial features alongside a hand-drawn image of a stern, aquiline figure supposedly drawn from "the death-mask of an empty tomb".

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>>48330090
True evil knows how to goddamn dress for the part right, everyone loves the look of the tyrant in black over the shiny hero

Especially when his final form is also sexy as fuck in a horrific way

>>48314776
Have you seen Shub Niggurath's tits? Don't tell she's not DTF.

>>48330127
Which one?

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>>48329681
So a persons ears don't hurt after hearing the alien parody human dialect? Nothing adverse?

Because apparently we use some sort of alien language to do rituals or incantations; something to that degree. Can't imagine a human tongue capable of vocalizing a lot of the words though.

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>>48313621
>that image

>>48330139
115 of them are quite nice.

>>48329822
I can't think of a point in any of his stories where it came up. I'd imagine he'd be put off at first, but eventually roll with it if they were another New Englander. In his letters and writings later in life it seemed like he was trying to be less prejudiced. But I'm not a Lovecraft scholar, just enjoy reading his works.

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>>48330179
Azathoth is clearly Nyarlathotep's True Final Form since, like, he's the soul of Azathoth and all that. Its agent in the dream. But below that I'd put the Bloody Tongue, and below that one of his more humanoid or semi-monstrous masks like the Black Pharaoh or whatever guise her wore in the divine parade of Kadath, and below THAT whatever he has for his most plain of masks.

Someone needs to make a digivolve chart path using his many forms

>>48329509
>people recording video vertically

I just suffered SAN loss.

>>48330316
He has an infinite amount of forms though.

>>48330368
It makes sense if they wanted to give a sense of scale though.

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>>48328484
Delirium is probably my favorite maze at Knotts.

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>>48330076

Confession time: I prefer Lovecraftian stuff that's like, "Cthulhu will return... but not today, motherfucker!" My favorite weird fiction is the pulpy kind where people take on mind-bending aberrations and kick their asses. Where the earth itself will rise up against us eventually, but not today, because today there are heroes who aren't having it.

I know that's an unpopular stance, but whatever.

Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser, Conan, that kind of thing.

>>48328888
>But damn if it doesn't have a chiseled ass.

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>>48330517
Weird. That second spoiler was meant to be above that non-spoilered sentence. Oh, well.

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>>48330372
Yes I know that's the joke

Nyarlathotep does have a few iconic forms, though, most popular being the tongue and man in black. I like the idea of his forms just being Azathoth's dreaming whims, whipping from one extreme to another, sometimes invoking patterns.

I've toyed with the idea of a Mask Maker series of tables, to emulate him in a rage swapping masks around or for chance chase encounters. Just give him very variable dice pools with horrific upper limits modified by modifiers such as "huge" or "light-related" and "nuclear" and etc etc.

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>>48330564

>>48330517
But we are completely chill with that as long as that isn't just your only experience being Lovecraft lite.

Also Conan was written by one of Lovecraft's closest friends

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>>48330578
It's also often been ok in the Dream Quest side of things. The Dreamlands have always felt more gothic horror or somber than the raw terror of mortality and the unknown like the waking Mythos material often was. I always liked the Dreamlands flavor more, and don't see why it couldn't apply to a waking world setting for an adventure.

>>48330560
I'm not familiar with Digimon sadly, also I never liked the idea of Nyarly being really physical with an opponent but I totally dig the Mask Maker thing.

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>>48329966
Nyarly is looking gnarly.

>>48330598
Nyarlathotep is the dandiest man around.

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>>48330664
>You should see me dance the polka, you should see me cover the ground

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>>48330638
I like treating Nyarlathotep as sort of following loose dream logic rules in regards to his intents and moods when being dealt with. I don't care for him to be a rampaging monster either, unless the location, mood, and general events of whatever he's involved in lends itself to a sort of fever nightmare. Like a ritual seeing completion, or a very remote and Mythos-infested place. That one story of the man who dreamed of meeting him as a great magician really stuck with me.

>>48330560
I love the idea of the Kruschtya Equation. I math equation that drives the solver mad until completion which the summons Nyarlathotep

>>48330736
One of the ideas is Nyarlathotep actually posses the summoner.

A stupid headcanon of mine is that Rick tried to solve the Equation and got possessed by the Pharaoh.

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>>48330736
Yeah. I really like the idea of hard/dark science holding Mythos power.

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>>48330790
Forgot my image

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>>48330791

>>48330108

I had a "weird library" in one of the games I ran, which basically was something in the house of a dead old weird guy they all knew and whose library they could turn to in order to look up weird books and occult bullshit.

The problem was that this guy wasn't from this reality; he was a sorceror who had "stepped over" from the universe 'next door' for safety and had brought a lot of his stuff with him. So, their Library Use rolls, even after successes, would often spit out odd results because the book was written in a different, more mythos-y world. But, whatever, right, historical and occult books are always a bit weird.

They didn't notice shit was weird until they were doing downtime and realised that when they took down a well-loved novel or a play for a read, that these WERE NOT the right novels. They read Macbeth and the witches played a much larger role, more overtly magical; Great Expectations' Miss Haversham was a more looming and sinister character, whose face could only faintly be seen behind a yellow veil and whose house was a creaking labyrinth through which young Pip spends a dreadful chapter wandering, lost. The Cantebury Tales has too many pilgrims, and a bloodier end to the ribald Miller's Tale.

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>>48330866

>>48330517

Ever read 'Free the Old Ones' by CJ Henderson?

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>>48330907

>>48330957
last one from me

>>48330981
Nice work man.

>>48330712
>teaching the outer gods to fear us

>>48330108
Well, there's enough tomes out there in the games that I generally don't need to make any new ones.

I just like to try and make them a bit less... mystical. Hence the cultes des ghouls, and the one I did previously on the Book of Eibon.

Oh snap /tg/ I just found out my request to run a Delta Green game at Gencon got approved.

>>48331106
Oh damn that's awesome!

>>48331106
/ysg/ gives it's thumbs up.

>>48330578
Nah, I've read Lovecraft's own stuff as well.
>>48330934
I haven't, but I'll check it out. Thanks.

>>48328999
I like it. Simple and foreign.

>>48331106

Nice, a pre-written scenario or one of your own writing?

>>48331160
See, that's the spirt.

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>>48329762
Looks more like he's ripping it out.

>>48331202
Pre-written. It's my first time running a game at Gencon

>>48329822
He found it abnormal. But had several gay friends. He did not really get they were gay.
He was generaly very victorian about that whole sex and love stuff. Needless to say his friends trolled him hard with it.

>>48331321

Cool, which one? This'll be my first time at Gencon full stop, have a couple of games lined up already. Would this be in the open play thing?

>>48331313

Yeah, that was my first thought? But then it could also look like he was trying to keep it OFF? Like, it's unclear whether it was in his head and is bursting out or whether it was outside, has kind of burrowed in and he's pulling it to keep it going in more, you know?

>>48331342
Khali Gati, you have to go to the GC website and register to play. 6 seats.

What is /ysg/'s opinion on Silent Hill?

>>48328958
I would.

>>48332019
Would you? Could you on a boat?

>>48332030
Would you? Could you with The Goat?

>>48332030
>>48332102
I would fuck them
on a boat.
I would fuck them
with the Goat.
I would fuck them
here or there.
I would fuck them
anywhere.

>>48332203
>>48332030
>>48332102
I need this in my life.

>>48319817

considering what a small, relatively unknown movie it is, and comparing it to 99% of the shit that passes for horror movies, AM1200 is a masterpiece as far as i'm concerned.

there were a couple of disappointing bits, but i'm very happy it was made, and i've passed it on to several other people who liked it.

if your thing is bragging about how your genius intellect and taste in movies is better than everyone else's around you, feel free to go hang out in /tv/ instead of here.

>>48314723
Have you guys wrote Nyarlathotep as a showman? In his original appearance that's how he was depicted

>>48314776
Sauce in this? I remember seeing it somewhere before.

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>>48333272
The one where Shub-Niggurath becomes a kid's onee-chan

>>48330191
This is a good picture

>>48333390
https://nhentai.net/g/153643/

>>48328811
I hate to ask a post made so long ago, but where is this from?
That book looks amazing, whatever it is.

>>48333390
>cult puts out waifu manga in hopes that NEETs will try to summon Elder Waifus, thus dooming the Earth
A cunning ploy.

>>48328811
>>48333662
>Best guess for this image: pet

>>48333390
Much obliged.

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>>48333665
>Elder Waifus wind up more waifu than elder god
And humanity rejoices

>>48333679
Kekkium

>>48330139
Considering she's likely the physical embodiment of life and fecundity, and has innumerable young, it's pretty obvious she is.

>>48330578
>Also Conan was written by one of Lovecraft's closest friends
There's apparently a pretty hilarious story that was written by Lovecraft, Howard, and a few other people "round robit" style (ie. each wrote one part, then another continues). Lovecraft had the protagonist be abducted by aliens, who proceeded to mutate him into a horrific inhuman being, breaking his mind. The Howard took over, had the protagonist go "you know, now that I think of it, having tentacles isn't THAT bad", and the aliens inform him that they abducted him and transformed him into Shoggoth Man because they needed a great warrior to fight against some evil aliens, hand him a raygun, and drop him on the planet ruled by the evil aliens.
The story ends with Shoggoth Man punching out Evil Alien King and rescuing the Scantily Clad Space-Princess. Lovecraft was reportedly laughing his ass off after reading it.

>>48334539
>>48330139
What Eldritch Horrors besides Shubby. Nyarlathotep, and the Deep Ones are DTF?

>>48334632
Goddamnit, I need to read this. This seems like my fucking jam.

Remember Howard is also Lovecraft's first name. Call him Robert E. Howard or R.E Howard.

>>48334644
Yog-Sothoth if you go through the trouble of summoning him.

>>48334774
Ultimate Senpai is still based as usual.

Also the line "I fucked everything ." is appropriate

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>>48329560
Agreed. I saw this one a couple threads back, I feel like this one leads to the conclusion of what to do better.

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>>48334644
Elder Things

>>48334632
>>48334685
That would be "The Challenge from Beyond"
http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/cb.aspx

>>48330900
Nice, stealing this.

>>48332700
>bragging about genius intellect
No, I'm usually shit at predicting what's going to happen, that's why the ending was a let down for me: I would have preferred to be surprised or confused than to watch what I felt was inevitable (if even a dip like me could guess it) to play out.
>taste in movies is better
"I didn't like thing very much" doesn't mean "I am better than thing". I don't even think taste has quality.

Maybe I just wasn't in the right mindset to buy-in when I watched it. It's still bright out even pretty late at night here.

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>>48325089
I reckon Hannibal works quite well

>>48325280
They even have the arkham asylum :^)

>>48333272
Chaosium's S. Petersen's Field Guide to Lovecraftian Horrors.

>>48334928
I love how as soon as Rober E. Howard takes over the story goes from cosmic horror to "Screw this bullshit, I'm goign to be Conan the Worm-Barbarian!", and the protagonist goes into full murderhobo mode.

You got to wonder how he and HPL ever became friends, considering how completely different their taste in fiction appears to be (and it was through their writing that they became acquinted).

>>48325632
All Fear The Overgoat

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why is it so many entities in the mythos (cthulhu, mi-go, elder things, byakhees, etc.) have bat wings? That's an oddly specific and awfully terrestrial bio-structure to be common amongst such widely different and wildly alien creatures.

I can sorta excuse tentacles since they are so simple and vague, although it does seem likethey are still more common than you would think.

>>48337226
Bats are spooky bro

>>48334928
Since Lovecraft makes a very obvious reference to the Great Race of Yith in his part of the story, that means that somewhere in the Mythos universe there's an interplanetary empire of worm people, ruled by a god-king who is actually a former geology teacher from Earth. And that's awesome.

>>48325388
It is a pretty sweet take on Batman and Lovecraft.

>>48329839
Oh hey, I drew that. I should finish it some day.

As someone who has played only basic board games, is it a good idea to buy Arkham Horror? I might even get a friend or two to play with me. Does it take ages to learn the rules and the game mechanics?

>>48337226
It's just a membrane stretched across some form of reinforcing structure. Wings are pretty simple, and bat wings might just be the easiest comparison to make I suppose.

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>>48337226
The Elder Thing wings aren't actually that bat-like.
They may be membranes stretched between rigid structures, but they're more like fans.

>>48338117

That looks stupid enough to awake curiosity, what is this?

>>48338168
Fuck, I was going to add a comment. I'm sure it's available on one of the million manga sites out there,

https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=92857

>>48338183

Thank you kind anon.

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Pulp Cthulhu

https://mega.nz/#!L9EFWSIT!o6clZxfdrVSOLkmcQz3wQ2Af9-hKsUxKc7214VynuY4

>>48338520
Is Cthulhu copping a feel on Lady Liberty?

>>48338546

And he's gonna have to get his teeth chipped for that.

>>48338620
Yeah, we don't like Eldritch Horrors who don't know how to treat women properly.

>>48338520
That Wizard upon the Biplane is awesome.

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>>48338520
If you guys like pulp Cthulhu Pulp Alley may be worth a try

>>48339364
I can actually post the quickstart rules if you guys want

>>48339364
The Purple Bedsheet wearing Cultist is amazing.

>>48339382
Please do, my pdf folder always hungers

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>>48340921
here you go anon B)

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Does anyone have the strange aeons rules? From what ive seen it looks like a good game

>>48341408
Is that supposed to be a ghoul in a wig?

>>48341353
cheers anon. Looks to be a decent ruleset too.

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>>48342149
Im tempted to upload the rest of the rules but im pretty sure that that goes against my code of ethics as a lawyer

>>48341700
lmfao is the paintjob that bad?

>>48342584
It's just a weird color

>>48340126
>>48339364
Purple Cultist is great.

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>>48343540
Purble Cultist best Cultist :-DDDDDD

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Aliveness continues.
>VULTHOOM, LORD OF MARS
If you were to communicate with a Martian (hardly an easy task; first you would have to capture one, then decipher their subtle language, as much a thing of ellipses as speech, then decipher their utterly inhuman psychology), then it might tell you that the Martians have no gods. They know /of/ gods, of course, but their are no cults, no shrines, no sacrifices in their folded-up cities.
Instead, they have a King.
Vulthoom is not a native of Mars, hailing from some far-away star beyond Aldebaron; nor, by the inadequate cladistics of mortal man, is he a god, having not precipitated out of Azathoth's gibbering. But past a certain point such distinctions are purely academic; Vulthoom holds sciences beyond even the Elder Things. They had to build physical objects to devastate cities and worlds; Vulthoom creates his machinery out of twists of thought within his own mind.
He may not be a god, but in some ways he is even more dangerous; he is close enough to the human level that he might potentially /pay attention/. He has ruled Mars for as long as the Martian records extend- he has made sure of that. And although he may not, technically, be a god... his subjects are devoted to him like one.
For now, he sleeps; like his subjects, like his planet, he is quiescent for thousands of years at a time. When he awakes, though?
He is ambitious, and has long wanted to be Lord of Earth as well as Mars; although that will not be possible for thousands of years yet, perhaps Lord of Man would be a decent proxy.

>>48338007

There really aren't that many rules. The big ones are learning what happens in each phase, how to move and resolve encounters, skill checks and things like that. It can be a long game and there can be a few things that will take some getting used to (how many gates that can be open scaling with the number of investigators comes to mind as a common one that trips people up) but it's far from the most complex game around. If you're capable of reading full sentences and then remembering what you just read you can learn Arkham Horror quite quickly.

I've heard Eldritch Horror simplified a lot of things if you're that concerned but I've also heard that it lost a lot of the meat in doing so. AH is "dead" but has more than enough support already printed that I'd recommend just getting the original and learning the real thing.

Can someone explain to me the appeal of the standard Lovecraftian mythos, in all its "everything is fucked," as an RPG setting?

In books, sure, but in a game it seems like it's just a game where no matter what you do, it's ultimately pointless. That's not scary. It's just depressing.

>>48344411
That's the point.
>>48344019
The name reminds me of John Carter.

>>48344411
It's about the journey, not the destination.

>>48344488
>That's the point.
Well, fuck that though.
>>48344500
It just feels very Kobayashi Maru to me.

>>48344411
It's all about the ride, man.

>>48344488
There might actually be some cross-fertilization there; Clark Ashton Smith mainly wrote after the Barsoom series was published.

So, any requests for what I should cover next?

>>48344542
Well first off, you CAN win the scenario. It's just the long-term prospects of humanity don't look very good. But how often are those going to be relevant to a session?

If the Keeper has you alone and abandoned inside Carcosa after saving the world...you still saved the world. Your character death is just the grim icing on the cake.

>>48344620
Influential Masks of Nyarlathotep, and how they influence Exodus/Allied Races ?

>>48333662
Its from the Field Guide To Lovecraftian Horrors. Its in the trove and its good shit.

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>>48344896
A man could go insane trying to figure out the machinations of Nyarlathotep. Consider:
Herbert West, working largely on his own and in secret, discovered principles of human anatomy that armies of researchers with budgets of billions of dollars have been unable to fully reverse-engineer in a century.
Some early entires of Herbert West's notes record that when he was stuck, he once received inspiration from a long and rambling conversation with an 'Egyptian-looking man' he met while out on a walk, whose name he never caught.
Consider:
The Invisible Labyrinth, for all its immense size, occupies only a tiny fraction of Venus' surface, and the way it was found was pretty much the only way it /could/ be found- a probe literally crashing into it on accident.
Consider that without that wildly unlikely accident, humanity could have inhabited the solar system for a hundred million years and never found it. Consider that the Elder Things /did/ inhabit the solar system for a hundred million years without finding it.
Consider: a hundred other incidents like this, probably.
Consider that in order to drive someone to madness, they must start out sane.
The Exodus isn't even sure that Nyarlathotep exists. There have been occasional encounters with his Masks, but each is so different from the others, and some of them apparently successfully destroyed- could they all truly be the same being? To be sure, some of the ancient texts refer to a trickster-god known as Nyarlathotep, but some of them also refer to giant fanged lemons arising from the earth.
And, of course, his described behavior is entirely at odds with what the Exodus knows of cosmic beings- namely, that they don't pay attention to anything less than cosmic scale. Their unconscious processes may wreak havoc, but conscious, deliberate dickery? It would be like a human going out of his way to be mean to a slime mold.
(cont)

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>>48345523
So, hypotheses of the existence of Nyarlathotep are... not quite disregarded. But they are left on the back burner, to be re-visited once there is nothing more pressing. (i.e. never.)
And that is just the way he likes it. The more profound the ignorance, the more pleasing the illumination.

So, what next?

>>48345559
>>48345523
JUST AS PLANNED!

What's the average citizen of Exodus' routine?

>>48345737
Not that different, actually. The demands of technological civilization have not changed; people continue to have private dwellings and leave them to perform specialized tasks for which they receive money. That many more of these jobs have titles including 'Life Support', 'Environmental Systems' and 'Thought Hygiene' than they used to does not change the essential pattern. In many ways, in fact, it's less changed than it ought to be; people cling to normality in these trying times. They celebrate the same holidays and keep time with 24-hour clocks with almost manic determination. You can tell when someone left Earth by these signs, in fact; someone who left in the last waves of the evacuation will have octopus-skin flatscreens showing pictures of Earth's surface, while the pioneer crews who first broke ground on these new cities keep local time and have actual windows, looking at the sharp-edged shadows cast by the lunar mountains.

What next?

>>48346043
Have you covered the asteroid field?
Or the Oort cloud?

>>48344411
Well, actually, the rpgs aren't really "the standard Lovecraftian mythos, in all its "everything is fucked,""
The Call of Cthulhu rpg is based more on the expanded, Derlethian mythos. August Derleth's stories were far more pulpy in tone, and made the mythos more into two-fisted tales of good and evil than hopeless cosmic horror. Far more appropriate for an rpg setting.

>>48346443
You can run Call of Cthulhu really bleak. And the 6th edition CoC rulebook keeps a lot of what Derleth added while rejected the stupid elementalism and good/evil dichotomy he forced.

>>48346488
See Cthugha for why Dereleth's ideas were good.

>>48346488
You can run D&D really bleak if you want to. That doesn't make any of what I said untrue. COC is a Derlethian rpg as much if not more than it is a Lovecraftian one.

>>48346603
>Derleth's ideas
>Good
There's a reason Delta Green and CoC 5th ed did away with him

>>48347157
Because they want to make your RPG experience all the interaction, snacking, and dice rolling of D&D but with all the bleakness and feelings of hopelessness of every other night of the week?

>>48346120
I covered them very briefly, but more depth never hurts.

>DEBRIS: THE MINOR OBJECTS
The asteroids are as dead as anything gets, in this universe. Cold, chemically inert, scattered- very little will evolve naturally here, and few species that move in will last long. When a planetary civilization collapses, when the technical caste gets its brains eaten, some people might survive by going hunter-gatherer, return to the land; when there's no land to return to? Death. Little life means few gods, and even most void-adapted life simply migrate from planet to planet as conditions become inhospitable. Nests of byakhees, Mi-Go on unknowable errands, even ghouls nesting in an air-filled cavity; but for the most part, nothing, enlivened by the occasional patch of crystal moss. As dead as anything gets.
This makes it an excellent prospect for colonization, in mankind's eyes. Few competitors. Thus, the asteroids are home to thousands of scattered outposts, from separatist autarkies to huldra-manned mining outposts. The main centers of human society are still on large bodies- the Moon, Mars, Titan- simply because those are the largest concentrations of resources, but the asteroids are the fastest-growing frontier.
Occasionally, small settlements go missing. The vast migrations of void-dwelling life, the Elder Things, the Mi-Go, a million others, have their predators; peeling open a metal canister is not an insurmountable challenge for these things, and they often have stranger powers besides. Then there are those who take to the asteroids to pursue hideous ends; mere space pirates are the least deadly. There are rumors of asteroid cult-kingdoms, protected by summoned servitors and Divine Warriors, all news of their existence suppressed by a government wishing to project an aura of irresistible force. Surely just rumors.
(cont.)

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>>48347517
Then, further out, rock becomes ice: the Oort cloud. Here are the cities of the immortals, the fruits of Dr. Muñoz's early experiments in biochemical life extension. Cold is required for survival, once the change has taken root; Dr. Muñoz himself died when his air conditioning failed. As the procedure became more popular, despite the flaws, cities grew first in the Arctic; then, the endless ice of the Oort, where the sun is but an especially bright star. The cities- known as the 'Grey Enclaves', swell more every year, as the old decide they do not wish to die. One day, they will outnumber the rest of humanity.

So, what next?

>>48347157
I meant some not all.

>While experimenting with electricity, Tesla accidentally kills Yog-Sothoth
>However, Yog-Sothoth's corpse is still alive, it's more like braindead
>Using technology, you can rip a hole in Yog-Sothoth and enter him, using him as shortcuts across time and space. These paths are terrifying masses of fleshy tunnels filled with teeth, eyes, and UNENDING HATRED
>Using this new understanding of SCIENCE, humanity starts using these 'Maw-Gates' to spread across the stars with their 1930's tech and begin to colonize the solar system, encountering other cosmic beings
>Entire thing is tongue-in-cheek black humor and high adventure while maintaining the dark universe that makes up HP Lovecraft's works.

What does /tg/ think? I have more for this setting, but I want some input on it before I devote more time to working on it.
Sound fun? Too dumb? Am I copying something and not realizing it?

>>48351636
>Tesla accidentally kills Yog-Sothoth
>kills Yog-Sothoth

I don't even know what to say.

>>48351636
>implying tesla wasn't nyarlathotep

>>48351636
In my understanding, Yog-Sothoth is every point in spacetime simultaniously. It does not have a single place to house its consciousness as it is everything. I don't think it's possible to kill something like that without also destroying spacetime.

>>48352313
T H I S
H
I
S

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>>48351636
It probably isn't necessary for Tesla's experiments to actually /kill/ Yog-Sothoth, just learn how to rip holes in him. He's the size of the universe, he probably won't notice. Probably.

I don't understand why "they made us to be their slaves" makes the mythos any scarier. If they're ancient and old and scary and shit, fine, that's terrifying, but it's not like the fact that some other being made me with an intent in mind means I objectively have that purpose, any more than my parents conceiving me with hopes I'll be a movie star means I'm doing life wrong if I choose some other career.

Now, they might try to re-enslave us, and that would be bad, but that's just a matter of them being obstacles to our own activities, and possibly insurmountable ones, and doesn't seem like existential terror in the sense of "the meaning of life is to be an alien's slave" or whatever. The meaning of life is still either nothing or what you make of it (depending on how you respond to the question).

>>48355371
The elder things made the shoggoths as a servitor race. Humans and all other life on Earth was created by accident (probably some bacteria or algae they were growing got into the wild and started growing there). We're the equivalent of leaving some bred in a cupboard for long enough it stated growing mold.

>>48355441
That makes me feel more hopeful for humanity, honestly. Mold kills people all the time.

>>48355441
That's actually a pretty hopeful view of humanity. We came from shoggoths, who pretty much overthrew the elder things, who themselves actually fought off Cthulhu and his Star Spawn.

>>48355486
Probably not directly from the shoggoths, but whatever they were growing to feed the shoggoths. Humans are essentially the end result of bacteria cultures left unattended for a very long time.

I recently read Out of the Aeons, like most of Lovecraft's ghost writings or revisions, it was mediocre but had some good ideas.
Particularly the point at the end where it turns out that Ghatanathoa's image was imprinted on the mummy's retina, and one man becomes petrified because of it even if he didn't actually "see" the image. The retina imprint thing is debunked as far as I know, but it's a neat idea and maybe could be adapted to a modern setting in another way.

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Hey, considering that shoggoths overthrew the elder things, and the elder things actually survived against Cthulhu, is it hypothetically possible for shoggoths to take down Cthulhu?

>>48355486
The idea is that you're less than nothing (slaves), you're the byproduct of nothing, that's how unimportant you are. You're an accident, you're the kid that should've been aborted. As anon said, you're the moldy on the bread, if you have an sense of meaning in your life, it is your own convoluted way of keeping yourself from suicide, which in itself is pathetic and a subject of pity. You hold no power in this realm of existence, nor should you even consider it anywhere else.
I like this idea, and it doesn't make me feel proud to be a human, because it cancels out all sense of hope, but hey, at the very least in today's society we reached the title and honor of slave. We can be a slave to a predetermined selection of actions, tradition, norms, and behavior. Might as well enjoy it.

>>48356111
>overthrew
Wasn't that more about being abandoned by their masters?

>>48356111
Elder things had to sacrifice a lot of their power to merely put Cthulhu in stasis. That sacrifice cost them to be weak enough to get defeated and frozen by the Shoggoths.
That's how I remember it. Please correct me on this shit.

>>48356167
Personally I'd link their war to the Permian-Triassic extinction event.

Sure they managed to seal away R'yleh, at the cost of 83% of all genera going extinct, and the loss of their former capital city (which is now known as the Wilkes Land mass concentration by humans)

>>48352313
>>48354404

Never even thought of that, which is weird because I used to fucking love ole' Nyarl.
Fuck, it even makes sense considering Nyarlahotep is filled with disgust for his masters, and would never pass up the chance to fuck up their days. Guess I'll add that now.

>>48352255
>>48352575
I guess killed was a poor choice of words, but to be fair, it was like 2 AM here and I had been up for almost 24 hours by that point, so I didn't have the words.

I guess I was trying to say something 'CLOSE' to death, like incapacitate, by pinning his existence to a specific point in time, the present, which would be death for something that exists everywhere. The maw-gates are both alive and actively malicious, and a wrong turn will result in being consumed or mutated beyond human imagination. Still work in progress technology, but reliable enough to conquer Mars, Venus, and Mercury.

This whole universe is supposed to be a dark comedy filled with passing jokes about the fucked up world and universe we live in. Like early w40k, only more Cthulhu and Yoggy and less grimderp.

Not trying to reject criticism or feed back, just hoping to explain my ideas with a fresh mind.

>>48356726
That's better.

>>48356111
Maybe in a en masse to temporarily slow the rise of R'lyeh.

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>>48356132
The second we deviate from what they've made, and begin to evolve into something else that can shape its environment, we are no longer that foodstuffs. Consider this: Our very existence is an inconvenience to them. By choosing to draw breath, we are already rebelling. May as well go whole hog, then.

Since apparently the CthulhuTech fluff is cool but the system a shit, what system would you recommend in its place?

>>48357994
>Consider this: Our very existence is an inconvenience to them.

What.

We've gone nowhere near their cities. Most are too deep in the ocean for us to get there, the rest are all ruins. If of course, they're not already gone.

There's probably only a handful left surrounding Antarctica.

We're not rebels who persevered over our masters and thrived... we're the abandoned project of a dying people who thrived in a landscape too hostile for their creators.


Put it like this, using humans as an example.
Let's say we go colonise a planet, we'll call it Blerth for convenience.
On Blerth we build robot servants, to terraform act as guards/soldiers and workers.
Unfortunately they rebel, we figure out ways to make them loyal and expand.

A bunch of aliens invade Blerth. Using our robot soldiers, we force them back to one region surrounding their colony ship, but accidentally wreck the biosphere so bad all our food sources die.

Now our great empire thrives on what we can grow from samples, and raising cockroaches as livestock.
But at least we've still got our robots!

And then more aliens invade and force us off half of Blerth.

Well, at least we've got our robots! Who were just waiting until we were suitably weakened, and we have to fight another war with them.

So here we are, after losing half the planet, stuck in a handful of cities on what remains, no longer able to build half our technology, our robots are now purging what they can of us in our old ruins, and we're pretty much ruined.

And then the cockroaches who wandered out during the war develop a civilization and go "Oh, those humans weren't so tough. We totally escaped their evil control and now rule Blerth!"

In Delta Green, have humans ever captured a Shoggoth? Is such a thing possible?

If so, could we study their makeup, figure out what their tissue is made of, and, since the Shoggoths were able to rebel, create something that could harm a GOO?

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>>48358265
People have figured out how to recreate shoggoths, these replicated versions are typically called Proto-shoggoths, or in Delta Green Stewards where they're found in The New Age.

It doesn't tend to end well.

Cthulhu himself was never stated to be present during the Starspawn-Elder Thing wars. R'Lyeh sank by itself, the ETs didn't cause it; at that time they had already been forced to cede their "new lands" to the Starspawn in exchange for relative peace.

>>48358265
>harm a GOO
In my Mythos canon this is impossible (as well as in Lovecraft's conception of his cosmic entities), but in yours you can implement it in whatever way you want.
Shoggots are probably not the best way to go at it though. They didn't rebel against GOOs but against Elder Things.

>>48356111
If it's power levels, maybe. If it's rock-paper-scissors, each successor exploiting a weakness in the previous, not necessarily.

>>48313621
To all anons I recommend the investigators weapons volume 1, it adds a lot of weapons/combat realism.

It's even got suggestions for what type of weapons/equipment most professions would have/availability abroad and even things like how to get weapons licenses in each country

>>48358562
it's not only possible to harm a GOO, it's inevitable, Azathoth is going to wake up at some point, and that's going to destroy all the GOOs. Also seeing as the dunwich horror was killed so easily when it's basically stated that it would eventually become a GOO, it's probably that they don't lose their mortality with age. You just can't harm them with earth matter.

>>48334632
The REH portion doesn't quite go that way, but yeah, it's a hilarious tone shift.

>>48361655
That's cute.

>>48325321
Just finished reading it. That's some good shit.

>>48325321
Should I die before I wake,
Pray to Mignola my shekels to take.

>>48361633
>Azathoth is going to wake up at some point, and that's going to destroy all the GOOs
In your canon maybe, because Lovecraft never said anything of the sort.
>the dunwich horror was killed so easily when it's basically stated that it would eventually become a GOO
The DH was killed because it was extremely unstable and pretty much barely surviving on Earth in its current form, these are stated very clearly by the characters. That it would go on to become a GOO, on the other hand, is not.
His brother's death and his timely discovery so that a surprise attack could be set-up are also what made this possible, it's not like Armitage and the rest just took a stroll, happened to realize the DH was there and then recited 2 spells to blow it up and then fucked off happily.

>>48325089
Millennium.

>>48330735
The color out of space is by far my favorite of Lovecraft's work.

>>48355371

>I don't understand why "they made us to be their slaves" makes the mythos any scarier
Because you were brought up with the better part of a century being taught evolution as fact, and not a humanocentric model of the universe.

In the context of the characters, it shows everything fundamental to their conception of their worth as individuals, humanity's worth as a species, to be false.

>>48347185
Play a different game. You don't play Vanquish for comfy slow paced harvest moon fun and you don't play Resident Evil 2 or Silent Hill 2 for a bucket of laughs.

>>48351636
>unending hatred
What the fuck is this Warhammer?

Also, if you want humour and Lovecraft, just use Ligotti instead.

>>48355530
>>48356111
>>48356167
Cthulhu went to sleep himself. They fought the Yithians, migo and Star Spawn, losing ground before abandoning land all together for their native sea.

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/ysg/ opinion on Trail of Cthulhu?

>>48367966

Generally in favour of GUMSHOE as a system, I like how light and easy to pick up it is, how the different variations do different genres. The section on how to write and structure investigations (frameworks and floating scenes and antagonist reactions etc) was SUPER helpful when I was looking at getting back into GMing and writing my own scenarios. That said, I think Trail might be the weakest of the Gumshoe games.

>>48368111
What makes the others better?
If I remember other games were Esoterrorists, Fear Itself and GUMSHOE itself.

>>48367966
>>48368111
Esoterrorists is a good alternative plus dem monsters.

>>48368127
I can't comment about trail bit eso/uh both do what they set out to do perfectly.

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>>48327302
>Old man used to run CoC back in the day
>ask him for tips on running it
>"if they start shooting at things like it's D&D, rip their fuckin' arm off"
thanks pap