/hwg/ - Historical Wargames General

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>Wargaming Compendium
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf
>Saga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Black Powder
http://www.mediafire.com/download/o5x6blwoczojmfr/Black+Powder.pdf
>Bolt Action
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>Hail Caesar
https://mega.nz/#F!s9xTTDpQ!CasEjRETeqZsJ5LOzYrJdg
>Warhammer Ancient battles 2.0
http://www.mediafire.com/download/uttov32riixm9b0/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+2E.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ta7aj1erh7sap1t/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+-+Armies+of+Antiquity+v2.pdf
>Warmaster Ancients
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cifld8bl3uy2i5g/Warmaster+Ancients.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3emyvka11bnna1b/Warmaster+Ancient+Armies.pdf
>Advanced Squad Leader
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>Impetus
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Ronin
http://www.mediafire.com/download/m8xke04pc3hne2k/Ronin.pdf
>Battleground WWII
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Modelling & painting guides
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Next War (GMT)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/eupungrg93xgb/Next_War
>Battlegroup
https://mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ

Desired scans :
Black Powder supplements
Rank and File supplements
Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements
Hail Caesar! Late Antiquity to Early Medieval Army List
Force on Force supplements
Hind Commander
At Close Quarters
War and Conquest
Germany Strikes!
Bolt Action: Empire in Flames

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July 14th in military history:

756 – An Lushan Rebellion: Emperor Xuanzong flees the capital Chang'an as An Lushan's forces advance toward the city.
1099 – The First Crusade: Jerusalem falls to the Crusaders.
1420 – Battle of Vítkov Hill, decisive victory of Czech Hussite forces commanded by Jan Žižka against Crusade army led by Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor
1789 – French Revolution: Citizens of Paris storm the Bastille.
1864 – American Civil War: Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest suffers his biggest defeat when Union General Andrew J. Smith routs his force in Tupelo, Mississippi.
1881 – Billy the Kid is shot and killed by Pat Garrett outside Fort Sumner.
1916 – Start of the Battle of Delville Wood as an action within the Battle of the Somme, which was to last until 3 September.
1918 – Quentin Roosevelt, a pilot in the United States Air Service and the fourth son of former U.S. President Theodore Roosevelt, is shot down and killed by a German Fokker plane over the Marne River in France.
1950 – Korean War: North Korean troops initiate the Battle of Taejon.
1958 – Iraqi Revolution: In Iraq the monarchy is overthrown by popular forces led by Abd al-Karim Qasim, who becomes the nation's new leader.
1969 – Football War: After Honduras loses a soccer match against El Salvador, riots break out in Honduras against Salvadoran migrant workers.

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It is 596 years since the Battle of Vítkov Hill, fought as part of the Hussite Wars. The battle pitted the forces of Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor against Hussite forces under command of Jan Žižka (in English, John Zizka). Vítkov Hill was located on the edge of the city of Prague and the battle occurred in a vineyard established by Sigismund's father, Charles IV. The battle ended with a decisive Hussite victory.

On 1 March 1420, Pope Martin V had published a papal bull in which he ordered that Sigismund and all Eastern princes had to organize a crusade against the Hussite followers of John Hus, John Wycliffe and other heretics. On 15 March in Wrocław, Emperor Sigismund ordered the execution of Jan Krása who was a Hussite and leader of the Wrocław Uprising in 1418. On 17 March the papal legate Ferdinand de Palacios published the bull in Wrocław. After that the Utraquist faction of Hussites understood that they would not reach agreement with him. They united with Taborite Hussites and decided to defend against the Emperor.

The crusaders assembled their army in Świdnica. On 4 April, Taborite forces destroyed Catholic forces in Mladá Vožice. On 7 April Taborites under command of Nicholas of Hus captured Sedlice after which they captured Písek, the castle Rábí, Strakonice, and Prachatice. At the end of April, the crusading army crossed the Bohemian border. At the beginning of May they captured Hradec Králové. On 7 May, Čeněk of Wartenberg surrounded Hradčany.

The Crusader force of 400 infantry and knights under the command of Peter of Sternberg attempted to defend Benešov against the Taborites. After the battle, the crusader forces were destroyed and the town was burned. Near Kutná Hora the crusader forces under the command of Janek z Chtěnic and Pippo Spano attacked the formations of the Taborites without success. On 22 May, Taborite forces entered Prague.

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>>48258449
The siege began on 12 June. The crusaders' forces, in the opinions of the chroniclers, consisted of 100-200,000 soldiers; in the opinions of modern historians they probably had 3-4,000. One of the most important points in the fortifications of Prague was Vítkov Hill. The fortifications on this hill secured roads on the crusaders' supply lines. The fortifications themselves were made from timber but they were consolidated with a stone and clay wall and with moats. On the southern part of the hill there was a standing tower, the northern part was secured by a steep cliff. The fortifications were said to be defended by 26 men and three women, though in the opinion of Durdik, it was probably about 60 soldiers. On 13 July, the crusader's cavalry crossed the river Vltava and began their attack. On 14 July, Hussite relief troops surprised the Knights with an attack through the vineyards on the southern side of the hill on which the battle was fought. The violent attack forced the crusaders down the steep northern cliff. Panic spread among the crusaders, which made them rout the field. During the retreat, many knights drowned in the Vltava. Most of Žižka's forces were soldiers armed with flails and guns.

The crusaders lost about 100-300 knights; Hussite casualities are unknown. In honour of this battle, Vítkov Hill was renamed Žižkov after Jan Žižka. As a consequence of the Hussite victory on Vítkov, the crusaders lost any hope of starving the city into submission and their army disintegrated. The National Monument exists today on the hill and in 2003 local officials were attempting to replant the vineyard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9pQ4iQcbhc

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>>48258467
The Hussites are a fascinating wargaming army to play because they're quite different from the contemporary norm. You've got all those war-wagons which they used with such effectiveness, as well as a variety of firearms and artillery. Not to mention groups of fanatic flail-wielding women. Their religious motivation gives them a unity and purpose tending towards high discipline and morale. A lot of wargaming systems accommodate them; I recall in DBM they were a brutal wall of death in defence but not practically maneuverable in offense. Nonetheless, you get guns and tanks in the Medieval era!

http://www.mediafire.com/download/jbnm8prrz1443g4/Osprey+-+MAA+166+-+German+Medieval+Armies+1300-1500.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/68jgaimnx24vnqm/Osprey+-+MAA+409+-+The+Hussite+Wars+1419-36.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/66oe6rbfrgg4d86/Osprey+-+OW+03+-+Medieval+Handgonnes.pdf

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>>48258485

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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1992455033/battle-of-britain

PSC doing another board game kickstarter.

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Folks, do I suck at this game?

>>48259705
nah

>>48259767
But this was on easy.

Asking again from the last thread

I just got a copy of the new Poseidon's Warriors. I want to place an order with langton but I'm going in sorta blind. There are a few nice looking scenarios in the back of the book I'd like to build towards but I have a couple questions I'm hoping someone can answer.

I downloaded most of the ospreys related in the OP (including the ones recommended in the last thread) but still cant really tell the difference. If I buy a bunch of triremes, can I use them in multiple eras? For example If I plan for a Peloponnese War scenario, can I use the same ships in a first punic war one? From what I've seen so far (Osprey Illustrations) I can't seem to find a difference between any of the nations ships.

Does anyone have a good paint guide for this kind of thing? I like the one on langtons site but it doesn't exactly answer my questions about color and decorations.

And finally does anyone have a good blog on this era? Ive read through the stuff on Olicanalad but thats it so far.

>>48259798
AI can cheat. Plus defensive positions can be really strong in mowas2. If you can finish it youre fine

>>48259798
>>48259705
probably


7 years ago a first person view of a multiplayer MoW game I played was "shoutcasted" by the reasonably popular youtube RTS commentator
TychoCelchuuu and is still around for everyone to watch all this time later.

also MoW multiplayer is great fun.

>>48259909
>MoW multiplayer is great fun

That it is, and Im excited for the upcoming tournament.

>>48259839
This was MoW:AS 1, but not much of a difference...I wasn't paying too much attention and when I finally got through a small stream, fuggen Nebelwerfers hit me in the face and I lost most of my assault forces...plus shit, tanks are fucking useless except for really heavy ones. Either micromanage the shit out of them, or they'll just die from a hidden AT gun.

>>48259940
>That it is, and Im excited for the upcoming tournament.
I havent played for like 5 years, but what is everyone playing now, AS 2?

>>48259955
>mowas1

Im so sorry

And as for tanks being useless you just need to scout ahead and find where the guns are. Its not too bad but you cant just go gung-ho

>>48259961
Yeah mowas2, theres a competitive mod for it that probably gets the most mileage atm

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Posted a scenario yesterday and now playing it. British mmg took down 7 Germans in pregame and turn 1 losing just 1 crew member. Lucky start!

>>48260311
Given the chance I'll try the game, but I don't have too much opportunities for that ATM.

The scenarios sounded fun tho, keep them coming.

>>48259993
> theres a competitive mod for it that probably gets the most mileage atm

Care to elaborate?

A competitive mod might go some way to improve the fun to be had with friends.

>>48259993
>Yeah mowas2, theres a competitive mod for it that probably gets the most mileage atm
It's the 2v2 tournament?

Is it going to be streamed do you know?

Are there vods of previous finals/semis?

>>48258485
I think it's one of those wonderfully helpful Lance&longbow society mini books that I have that's a perfect wargaming supplement for the Hussite wars as it has an overview, with map in many cases, of every major battle of the wars.
Definitely worth getting hold of, cheap too.

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>>48232544
1/4
> I want to run a game of "Legend of the Five Rings"

Jokingly and seriously you could go to ebay or some place and get some of the Clan Wars rule books which was the official L5R mini game. (Pic Related)

>good rule-set for Sengoku era Japan?

Well good is subjective. Years ago I searched for a good rule set for age of the "warring states" era Japan. I found that no one really touches that period/setting or in a mass battle kind of way.

After your original post I went digging thru my disheveled archive and found the two homebrews I saved years ago. No guarantee on quality but if you end up having to brew your own they might save you some work and give you a place to start.

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>>48262761
2/4

one called Bushi

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>>48262779
3/4
one called daimyo

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>>48262789
4/4
QRS for Daimyo

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>>48260390
Finished the scenarios. Conclusion.. Veterans in buildings are too strong: hard to hit.. Hard to kill and good at Cc. I did manage to blow the hano mag. I would also change Part1 where the bits get to keep any survivors in Part2. I abused the fact and assaulted the German Lt with the final order die which is fun but a bit of a cheap move. Lucky for the Germans.. The order failed.

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>>48260390
Godly mmg range. Vickers was in the right house

German played could have targeted a house instead of the one squad outside.

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>>48260390
Also 4 turns would be better for part 2

>>48259705
since your units and your losses won't carry over to the next scenario it wont matter at all. (i hate that their single player is just one skirmish map after another)

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>>48260311
great stuff mate!

>>48259826

http://www.mediafire.com/download/ucc1vargbc1b4sr/WRG+-+Warfleets+of+Antiquity.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/zlfwra8qa4lrq5a/Osprey+-+NVA+132+-+Ancient+Greek+Warship+500-322+BC.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/pl3kzmp9fr5ddkb/Osprey+-+VAN+196+-+Warships+of+the+Ancient+World.pdf

>>48262761
Are those plastic Zevezda samurai for a game or just figures?

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>>48265881
That's a pic of the 1st ed main starter box for the game. This is a pic of a opened daimyo (2nd) ed starter box. It was figures, rule books, dice, bases, ect. Just like a 40k starter box and such. (not at home to take a pic of my stuff) The stack of cards are unit references, magic spells, and tactical effects.

>plastic Zevezda samurai
All Clan War figs were pewter and AEG did the spin casting themselves at the office. After AEG dropped the game the manufacturing rights floated around and now Valiant Enterprises Ltd currently has the masters/molds and are still producing them but they cost more than they originally cost when the game was out.

https://www.veltd.net/zencart/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=36

>>48265535
That actually looks pretty fantastic.

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Despite a family history of heavy toy soldier use (father, brother, uncle, cousins), I have avoided it myself due to the associated costs and being kind of bad at painting. However, I noticed that 6mm figures were a thing, and they look affordable as hell. Planning on doing some Sengoku Jidai stuff in 6mm, I figure the battles can look properly impressive with 6mm on a much cheaper budget.

I'm planning to do a game of either the battle of Tedorigawa or Anegawa (Uesugi vs. Oda or Oda vs. Asakura + Monks), but I'm not set on that yet.

People have mixed opinion on the best rulesets for samurai games. Does anyone have opinions on the following rulesets?

Killer Katanas 2 (Spiral Bound Book for $35, lots of historical info apparently)

Peter Pig's "Battles in the Age of War" (Apparently similar rule set to more popular "Bloody Barons," cannot be found online by mortal men)

Tokai (Faster battles, $25 dollars online)

I'm comfortable with longer game times, so long as it's a proper set up. Any thoughts?

I did it lads, I bought Rule the Waves

>>48267812
No opinion on the rules I'm afraid, but 6mm is great, it is often viewed suspiciously by 28mm die-hards but quantity is a quality of its own and I have thoroughly enjoyed 6mm outings with Napoleonics.

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>>48262779
>>48262789
>>48262804
>>48267812
Whoops, rude me, forgot to read the thread first. I will prepare a death poem.

I'll take a look at the rules you posted.

I found your page with reviews of KK2 and Taiko while doing some preliminary research. In your opinion, what are the weaknesses of these games that your system does better?

LAV-75

I'm not looking to start an argument, but I'm curious as to the pros/cons between Flames of War and Bolt Action. I'd like to try WWII gaming and both games have caught my interest. At just a cursory glance FoW seems to have an emphasis on a grander scale which interests me more.

>>48271024
>At just a cursory glance FoW seems to have an emphasis on a grander scale which interests me more.
That's the biggest difference. If you want platoon sized games, you play Bolt Action, if you want company sized game, you play FoW. Tho I'd recommend to check out Battlegroup too if you're going 15mm.

>>48271024
I've played both and tbqh found them both a bit unsatisfying. My best experience was with Bolt Action on a very large table, FoW is a smaller model scale but also tends to cram a lot of units on the board at the same time at standard battle sizes. My problem with Bolt Action is that it lacks a bit of granularity with armour and needs gentleman's agreements to keep things sensible with army lists not yet segregated into eras. You could have a look at Battlegroup (nèe Kampfgruppe) less popular but quite good.

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Maybe its more of a "board game" than a lot of the games discussed here, but has /hwg/ seen this?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1992455033/battle-of-britain

>>48271396
Looks like it was actually mentioned a little earlier in the thread.

Not much of a planefag, but it looks interesting.

>>48271024
Bolt action is WW2 40k, hence you get a lot of 40k converts.

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Man, Slavs are weird.

>>48272585
>IS LIKE AMERICAN BATTLE-CAMPER IN ONE BILL MURRAY MOVIE BUT IS MORE COMPACTING!

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>>48271024
Yeah FoW is more large scale, BA is more skirmish.

If you want to focus on 1 or 2 squads of infantry and maye a vehicle or gun, play BA. If you want proper combined arms, many tanks, many guns, many whole platoons of infantry, many light vehicles, all working together in a massive battle, you want FoW.

pic: some other game. Battlegroup I think

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>>48271319
15mm? Don't a lot of people play Battlegroup at 1/72? because the agreement with PSC and their cheaps tanks, just looks the their Facebook page and you will see a lot of gorgeous tables at 1/72.

>>48273232
It can be played at 28mm too. It's probably the cheapest in 15mm, and Battlegroup books usually feature whatever stuff Piers Brand paints up - usually infantry from AB, and tanks from various manufacturers. Last one I've seen from him are some S-Model Crusaders.

>>48273232
The BGK rulebook explicitly states that the rules were designed with 1/72 and 15mm in mind.

>>48273260
I like more 15mm i even play BA in 15mm with leftovers from FoW, but it was weird seeing you from all the people say him to try Bettlegroup at 15mm a pretty well know system, that personally, i saw more people playing it at 1/72.

>>48273419
I have a strange fascination with 15mm. Bit of a love-hate relationship.

>>48273500
I was the same for me, until i played FoW and i got a ton of leftovers from the companies boxes and PSC become a thing.

You're the only people I can think to ask this to, /hwg/; does anyone know what the residual radiation for tactical (1-750kt) and strategic (1mt+) nuclear weapon ground and airbursts is? Say after the period of a year, what would the rads (I know, outdated unit) per minute be in the blast area? I've been scouring google, but can't find anything all too helpful.

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>>48274083
I would use Sieverts and Sieverts/h for your measurement. At the end of this simple ruleset are some accurate radiation values, and their effects, have a look, should help you out.

Also remember there is an immediate effect, and a cumulative effect (not implemented in this Simple game) For example first responders to the chernobyl reactor came back instantly tanned, and I've heard reports of guys coming back from a breached reactor on a sub and having their throats all swollen up, and their voices become high pitch. This is for a VERY high and fatal dosage though, probably 10 or 20 sieverts in a couple of minutes. If you absorbed this same amount of radiation over a long period, you wouldn't never get the tanning and swollen throat, you'd just get thyroid cancer and heart attacks.

For your crater 1 year after impact I would say about 50 or 60 msv/hr. Which would make you nauseous after about an half an hour in the area. Of course with a game you want things to be less realistic and have more effect on the characters, so I would recommend having "hot spots" if the character stumbles into a hot spot, they make a dexterity or intelligence check, if they fail, they take a lot more RADs than they usually would. Also since in a game you rarely track the long term over years, the cumulative effects should effect a characters endurance slightly, but only after they've received quite a heavy dosage.

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>>48274083
Depending on what you had in mind, you could use the radiation contamination rules from Twilight 2000

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>>48274083
Also here's how Traveller handles it, note that they have an immediate effect and a cumulative effect. This is from the Mongoose Traveller core rulebook, and is in RADs if you want to stick with that.

Does anyone have painting schemes for mexican federales?

>>48274411
Is the cumulative effect over your lifetime?

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>>48274432
You mean the modern cops, or the Government army in the Revolution, anon? Because I can give you an Osprey for the latter, but the former is a little outside my area of expertise.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/u88nuwta6842obw/Osprey+-+ELI+137+-+The+Mexican+Revolution+1910-20.pdf

Exactly that. Thanks!
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>>48274517
Looks like you got two interesting challenges in front of you anon: painting white uniforms, and making them dusty.

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>>48274359
Thanks a bunch anon. I do have a system I am already using (Which measures things in rads, thus why I asked for rads), it's specifically the dosage that I'm worried about though.

Would you say the impact crater would be 50-60 msv/hr regardless of weapon yield and ground/airburst, the latter just resulting in a smaller radius?

>>48274382
I am using Twilight 2000. Or, rather, Twilight 2000's older brother, Twilight 2013 with 2000's setting (Because 13's setting sucks). I ask mostly because the radiation amounts it suggests seem... Really really really low (Pic related. One would have to stand around a nuclear crater for about ten days before experiencing even slight radiation sickness) and the amounts in 2000 seem really high in comparison (1d10/minute for ground bursts, 1d6/minute for airburts).

So really, I just need to figure out what would be reasonable for it.

>>48266942
By any chance, do you have the rules in pdf?

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>>48274479
yep, until you take anti RAD medicine, which is the only way to get rid of RADs. The negatives to endurance can never be cured though. Which represents cancer, complications etc.

>>48274578
Those doses do seem a bit low. A reactor core meltdown would be able to deliver 1000 RADS or more in a few minutes. essentially a fatal dose within a minute. Multiply the core meltdown by 100 and everything else by 50 and you should be looking ok.

The reality is that radiation drops a lot over 2 years, so your impact crater would have a pretty low dosage in the grand scale of things. Scale it to how long you want your players to be hanging around, and how badly you want them to be effected by the scenario.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rad_(unit)

400 RADs is acute radiation sickness, so depends if you want them to hit that mark or not. D10 rads per minute could work. at 200 RADs you start getting redness of skin and probably feeling awful.

Pic is a map I used in our Traveller campaign, for a highly radioactive area. The colored spots represent the radiation. A round is 6 seconds in traveller for reference

>>48273232
I've seen a battlegroup AAR in 6mm (with multi figure basin) before. It's fairly scale agnostic though I think the authors primarily play in 20mm

>>48275078
How's this look:
Reactor after core meltdown: 10d100 Rads/Minute
Reactor waste storage facility: 10d20 Rads/Minute
Nuclear Weapon with damaged casing: 5d20 Rads/Minute
Radioisotope generator with damaged casing: 1d20 Rads/Minute
Damaged medical radiation equipment: 1d10 Rads/Minute
Strategic nuclear ground burst: 1d10 Rads/Minute
Tactical nuclear ground burst: 2d10L Rads/Minute
Strategic nuclear air burst: 1d6 Rads/Minute
Tactical nuclear air burst: 2d6L Rads/Minute
(L meaning take the lowest of the two dice)

>>48274083
Try and dig up The Morrow Project.
It should have some useful info

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What's on your desk right now, /hwg/?

I've got 4 U/V class destroyers, a Leander class light cruiser, a modified Leander class light cruiser, and an enterprising Tribal class dd that had somehow infiltrated my Kriegsmarine box. When I finish those up, I'll be done with the Royal Navy stuff I own and it will either be on to doing little stuff like my Greek and Swedish stuff, or ABDACOM stuff. Or if I get a bug up my ass, maybe the aforementioned Kriegsmarine.

>>48274490
>>48274555
Darn it. I read that early WWI Brits make good Federales and early WWI Germans good Mexican cadets, and are obvious choices for 1:72. Yet, I can't make out which ones are the ones so simmilar.

>>48278239
15 Vikings and 4 Normans in 28mm. Currently painting 20 shades of brown (all the leather details), shields and a standard

>>48278239
I'm considering finishing up my PSC Germans for Bolt Action since my Brits are done (should take a group pic), and I still haven't got Plastidip to do my North Vietnamese or Zulu War Brits.

Other than that, some old metal Warzone Bauhaus Etoiles Mortant, but sssh.

>>48278239
Bunch of cowboys and two-storey building, plus bunch of Polish XVII-century nobles, all 20mm. I bet the building will be on first. I'm slow painter and a shitty one.

>>48278239
What Leander class? I've got 1/2400 GHQ HMS Enterprise because my Grandfather served on her.

>>48278239
A bunch of GPB Saxon Thegns and Dark Age Warriors. Also a bunch of EOE Orbis Boers.

I was a fool to think that my rate of construction and painting that I had for my Warlord Nazis was something I could keep up.

Is anyone interested in playing some MoWAS2 at some point?

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>>48278401
Honestly, I'm not sure which particular hull the Leander sculpt is based on, but I was going to do it up as HMS Ajax. The modified Leander (the two stackers that went to Australia and NZ) I'm doing as HMAS Sydney.

Know of anyone that makes a Patapsco-class gasoline tanker? My grandfather served on one in the Pacific at the tail end of the war, and I'd like a model for similar reasons. (Pic related was the last gift I ever got to give him, and I hate that I had to rush it)

>HMS Enterprise
You didn't mention how long he served, but that ship went a lot of places, and saw quite a lot of things. Bet he had some stories to tell.

>>48278559
He did but he wasn't on her very long late 42-43. Some of it was refit I think.

he had stories about being an LCA coxswain on D-Day. That was some harrowing shit.

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Welp, started working on the group project. Will prime it tomorrow if it won't rain again.

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>>48272585
You do what you have to with what you have on hand. That and one of the previous pics reminds me of tail told by a Huey Crew Chief in Vietnam.

>Crew chief in Vietnam
>Supply guy comes up to the Huey with a trolley full of Flak Jackets
>Supply guy tells Crew Chief he's here to issue him a Jacket
>Young, dumb, and macho at the time tells supply guy he didn't want it
>Pilot overhears conversation and asks if he didn't want it could he have it
>Supply guy says sure why not
>Pilot takes Jacket, opens the pilot door and shoves the Jacket in the floor canopy window.

And heres pic for you

>>48278239
a few hundred 6mm romans

>>48273232
>because the agreement with PSC and their cheaps tanks
same reason for 15mm, cheap PSC plastics

>>48278776
>the group project.
>tfw ordered some figures specifically for it and haven't even received shipping conformation yet

pls

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>>48258449
I live directly under the Vítkov hill, I visit the monument quite frequently as it is a grand running destination.

Žižka's statue is nearly as huge as the guy's balls during his life. One of the biggest riding statues in the world actually and one of our most revered national heroes.

>>48278239
>partly built T-34/76 from Hobby Boss (1:48 scale)
>around 30 soviet infantrymen waiting for primer
>Sdkfz 250 waiting for paint

>>48278239
i got a squad of german grenadiers waiting. I'm going to paint/use them as Luftwaffe Felddivision.

Besides that i'm waiting for the box of russian infantry i bought during the Forgestarter campaign by Fireforge Games. It was shipped earlier this week so hopefully it arrives soon

>>48279062
>>48278776

What exactly is the topic for the group project?

>>48279793
Essentially, something damaged/destroyed/killed.

Can be a casualty marker, or a sinking ship or a destroyed piece of terrain or anything else that fits really.

>>48278239
Quite a bit, but the historical stuff that has decent priority:

>Two M4A3 Shermans, Firefly, Comet, Cromwell, Panzer IV and Tiger IE that will all be painted in GuP colours for the new Tanks! game.
>Handful of T-72s (Battlefront and PSC) to be assembled/painted and two hinds and 5 BMP upper hulls that only need paint. All for Team Yankee.

Other stuff (soem non-historical):
>PSC Germans (Panzer III and IV) and Zvezda Brits (M3 Lee and M3 Stuart) to be used for simple demo forces based on North Africa.
>More than two dozen Battletech minis.
>Two non-scale Macross model kits (VF-31S and Sv-262Hs).
>Some D&D minis.

Also thinking about the group project, but I can't think of any really appropriate parts right now.
Unless, of course, I make some more smoke columns out of clump foliage and metal wire.
That would be pretty nice to have handy.

>>48279793
I knew it would not hurt to include it into OP or some additional post at the beggining of topic, maybe after historical part.

Let me quote: "Lets do some kind of casualty/wreck marker, that way even the naval guys can participate if they want. A ruined building could probably even work; the point is to get everyone to finish a little project

Due date of lets say Aug 15 work for everyone?".

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>>48274083
It depends on how anal you want to be. Radiation is at its worse during and right after the blast. The biggest dangers after the event are the isotopes formed during the reaction and spread by the wind and neutron-induced gamma activity at and around the crater. If you are interested here

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/policy/army/fm/3-3-1/fm3-3-1.pdf

FM 3-3-1 Nuclear Contamination Avoidance

It basically will give you more than you need also initially look to pages:
3-1 : Residual Radiation Effects
6-8 : Period of Validity and Decay Rate
7-0 : Neutron-Induced Radiation Areas

With this book, a M4A1 Nuclear Yield Calculator, and a M5A2 Fallout Predictor you'll be plotting and calculation fallout and dose rates like a champ.

Word of note this book is based on real time field calculation for immediate use by on site command decision making. Long term calculation would be done later. But an equation can be pushed out.

>>48274580
Sadly no, I have the main and Lion expansion book only in physical copy and my cards for the game met with a "negative outcome water event".

What ruleset do you recommend for Mexican Revolution BTW? Have anyone played Achtung Gringo?

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>>48280162
>negative outcome water event

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>>48278239
A platoon of Soviet infantry in 15mm that I have based up individually for a game of Battlegroup. Yes I know I don't have to base them up individually. But I hate using dice or casualty caps/counters before I pull a stand.

>>48281405
Nice 20mm figs... oh, wait.

>>48281448
Yeah, I'd prefer 20mm as well. But the guys I play with have this irrational hatred of 20mm. They either want to play 28mm (becasue ti looks nice on a table). Or 15mm because they have all the vehicles and such. So unless I want to buy and paint up everything it's no 20mm for me.

Anyone have At Close Quarters - Chris Peers Rule ?

>>48278239
Got a couple of 28mm Perry's Miniatures. Specifically war of roses knights.

>>48280282
Use a WW1 system like Mud & Blood or Contemptible Little Armies

>>48271745

I swear I CTRL-F'd... I bet I misspelled Britain, I always want to add two Ts for some silly reason.

>>48278239
A handful of Perry samurai and Perry villagers.

I'm trying quite hard to get Ronin to work, or at least figure out what needs to be tweaked.

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>>48271024
i just did a game of Bolt Action and posted some pics. If you want to decide think of the following:
1) Do you have friends who might want to split a starter set of either game?
2) Do you have a local club around? What do they play?
3) Do you want larger or smaller figures (15mm or 28mm).. or do you want to test the waters with cheap 1/72 scale models? (20mm).
>buy some figures at this point. Pro-tip get a good vallejo starter set since its a great having some color choices
4) Check out some rule sets in the OP thread. I would suggest you check out (in order of complexity)
- Chain of Command
- FoW
- Battlegroup
- 5 men in Normandy
- Bolt Action
>i will get corrected for this, but these 5 rule sets are at least quite popular.
5) Order the actual rulebook of your choice, because part of this hobby is being a gentlemen!
turn into a grog and rage about rules and shitpost on /tg/

>>48281405
tfw your 15mm look better than my 25mm

>>48278239
Got a bunch of elhiem stuff for Novorossiya coming in the mail. Should arrive in a couple weeks. Working on terrain in the meantime though I probably won't make much progress since I'm pretty busy with real life obligations at the moment.

>>48279062
I still need to come up with something for that

>people actually shittalk 3mm
>think its "too small to see"

Nice to see literal retards invade every hobby

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>>48286988
my WW1 aircraft are all 1/600 which is close to 3mm I think. Its a perfect size for massive dogfights with 5+ aircraft per side on a standard sized table.

This game must have been before my decals arrived. The wings are looking a bit plane

i've seen bases for planes which make it possible to adjust the position of the plane to simulate air maneuvers, are these self made or can you buy these somewhere?

>>48287149
Corsec engineering and Litko aerosystems are two for sure places to check out. Galeforce Nine might make adjustable flight stands too, but I don't recall.

I'm browsing the ebays for models for flames of war and bolt action since I intend to start playing both. What scales do I search for? Is bolt action 1/72? 1/36?

>>48287149
Actually, if you meant banking the plane, corsec is the place to go. There's also a good tutorial on the OF for X-Wing somewhere about making your own I could dig up if you are DIY inclined. I had been thinking you meant add or subtract rods for altitude until I retread your post.

>>48287318
Bolt Action is 28mm or around 1/56. 1/48 tanks can do in a pinch.

Flames of War is 15mm, or something close to 1/100

>>48287336
>>48287317
Thanks. I'll check them

>>48287318

>>48287339 Addendum
However, that said, I know a few people who play Bolt Action in 15mm scale.

>>48287347
Flames of war models and bases using bolt Action rules or do they have individual bases?

>>48287445
15mm models based individually. So you'd have to work out some magnetizing or unit trays if you wanted to use the same kits for both games.

I haven't experienced it myself, but I've heard it's a better scale for playing Bolt Action with a lot of tanks.

>>48287472
I'll probably base them as normal.
The plan was playing as the Royal fifth tank regiment(British) as it was active during all the war and in several theatres. Is bolt action or flames better at simulating a battle at that size? It'd be mostly tanks.

Also do people mind painting stuff in the wrong colours? The 5thRTR was in the battle of France and in the battle for Africa against the Italians with the same tanks but with different camo. Would I get flak for painting all my stuff in desert camo if I play BoF-stuff or later?

>>48287501
I've never played FoW and I've barely played Bolt Action, so I'm not the best person to answer your first question. (It's not my pet period)

Regarding your second question, that really depends on who you're playing with.

>>48287501
Some people will not mind because it is pretty common in tournaments or randoms battle at your FLGS that you made a thematic army but your opponent use whatever army he have.

>>48287501
I would recommend FoW, if you want to go with the 5RTR (good choice, I have similar ideas), since (from what I've heard, since I don't play it myself) Bolt Action does an absolute hodge-podge with tank fights. Also, BA is on the platoon scale, while FoW is on company scale (means more tanks, as in more than 2-3 and the system still works).

As to colours, most people will be reasonably relaxed, especially if it's desert stuff in france, since the BoF was such a short period of time. Then again, you will always find anal-retentive assholes as well. Thankfully, they're reasonably rare, especially at social occasions (which gaming is)

>>48287501
>Also do people mind painting stuff in the wrong colours?

Some do, others dont.

>>48287501
>Also do people mind painting stuff in the wrong colours
There's a big difference between painting something in colours for a different theatre and something which is just plain wrong. Noone will expect you to collect the same army with different theatre camo, but depending on your group people may comment if you paint things in colours which never existed, especially if it looks or of place too.

>>48287345
Here's that tutorial:
>https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1280373/magnets-how-they-work-x-wing-miniatures

>>48278239

13 Japanese infantry for BA. Two more regular squads of 13 to go after that, plus a 12 man SNLF squad. Then it's just teams; observer, sniper, medium mortar, MMG. Oh, and a Chi-Ha. Oh wait, then there's a 47mm AT gun and a medium howitzer.

You know I played Orks for 9 years in 40K so I should know how this goes but I swear 4 months ago I just picked up the starter set and suddenly I'm staring at a lot of plastic.

Anybody here played Rule the Waves, finding it pretty bloody good, though using netbuilds as a guide is a bit troublesome, either weights have been tweaked since many were built or they are being risky with armour, still, finding compromise pretty enjoyable.

>>48288004
There's a couple people who were posting summaries with screenshots, but our once in a while shitposter kept telling them to fuck off to /v/, so nobodies posted any in a while. I've got a copy, but I haven't yet devoted the time to learning how to play yet.

>today is pay day
>open warlord games newsletter email
>see new armored train
>already have 50+ infantry to paint
Hold me bros

Think of the cool scenarios you could run with the train though.... Plus it would stave off my cravings to start a Scwherer Gustav railgun conversion project.

>>48288185
>armored train
MUH DICK, damn i was going to buy the train for Flames of War now i don't know what to do... it is the BP42 or BP44?

>>48287071
Those little Camels are so goddamn cute.

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>>48287149
Dumping a bunch of pdfs on how to model custom aircraft stands.

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>>48288430

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>>48288453

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>>48288463

>>48288185
Buy it, allow yourself to paint it once half the infantry is finished.

>>48288411
One bundle lists it as BP42 but there is a flatbed car available that Im sure you could throw a pzIV turret on.. Im not sure of any of the other differences between the 42 and 44

>>48289093
Differents artillery car and i am not sure about the AA one

What would you guys recommend for a 15mm medieval/generic wargame?

>>48292388
Impetus or Basic Impetus (free version). Really solid, well presented, easy to play but with a good deal of depth in playing.

>>48292527
Thanks. Also, can anyone speak for the quality of Old Glory 15s?

>>48292615
Well, they are old, glory not so much.

>>48292739
Darn, their prices are cheap so I was a little skeptical. Ah well.

>>48292886
Well, you get what you pay for. They aren't bad per say, can be painted nicely, but there are much better looking (and more expensive) options out there.

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>>48278776
Didn't prime it as I tinkered some with the base (made the earth a bit more balanced, as in it doesn't show that much that it's on a 2mm MDF base that's glued on plasticard), plus made some furniture, one with an MP40 and a German field cap on it, the other with a Sten and a mag for it.

>>48292977
S'gonna look really good when it's finished.

>>48292921
After doing a bit of looking up it seems that they have a pretty poor reputation for customer service. Quality is nice to have, but me and my roommates are mostly just interested in large scale battles so price is way more important. If you've got any suggestions I'm all ears.

>>48293112
Thanks, I hope so. I need to dig out my PSC German stowage sprue to see if there any useful stuffs on that, plus I'll put the desk and radio from the kit in it too.

>>48293206
Go 10mm or 6mm. Other than that, check the rest of the 15mm manufacturers like Legio Heroica, Mirliton, etc.

What are your opinions on papercraft figures, /hwg/?

>>48293230
Thanks again. I've actually just finished going through the 15mm options and I'm just going through elimination now. I'll check out the 10mm afterwards.

>>48293268
Lot of big fans of hex and chit and counters around here, which is even more abstract than papercraft. Nobody that isn't a shitposter is gonna judge you around here for that.

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I finished up HMS Ajax, HMAS Sydney, and HMAS Warramunga today. Didn't enjoy painting Ajax at all. It must have been one of the earlier sculpts because there wasn't as much detail as some of the others, and what was there was kind of muddy. Sydney was a lot more enjoyable though.

Not pictured are the four U/V class destroyers that are about halfway done.

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>>48294066
Instead those U/V's are moored, waiting fitting out and are moored with my small Marine Nationale fleet.

I'd like to someday have a proper board and harbor terrain so that I can take better pictures like this, but it was still a lot of fun to set up.

dont think i posted these here. Game I was playing for my video channel. Project kinda died as my numbers really started dropping off

John Tiller Modern Campaigns Series. "Fulda Gap '85" for the computer.

What happens when you take a generally less than clever individual and toss him into a video shoot of a game he hasnt read the manual on too many times? Watch and find out!

I have made ALOT of mistakes so far...some I have figured out and rectified....others Im sure Im missing.

At the end of the day just trying to have fun with the game and showing off to people who may not know of Tiller Software games

https://youtu.be/e_pgeuWbbD8 Inital thoughts on the game system
https://youtu.be/-A-CFGLB4rg Scenario setup and turn 1
https://youtu.be/L-B69zYL1Ys Turns 2-3
https://youtu.be/6ezvQKOuVyo Turns 4-5
https://youtu.be/U7nCyFzAHxw Turns 6-7
https://youtu.be/X1U2ovXRgt4 Turn 8
https://youtu.be/Rog6z3OTp-w Turn 9-10

I like large scale wargaming, but large scale wargaming rules are boring (seriously, who wants to buy and paint 100 models just to slap them on to the same base?)
Should I just suck it up or is there a better way?

>>48295488
>but large scale wargaming rules are boring (seriously, who wants to buy and paint 100 models just to slap them on to the same base?)
sounds like you don't like large scale wargaming.

>>48295488
Use bigger figs to represent more soldiers?

>>48295488
Hex and chit?

I'd say if large scale games being boring because of abstractions for sake of speed is what you have a beef with, see if you could find a rule set with an inbound campaign system that has a lot of between turns crunch managing logistics and that sort of thing.

>>48295571
I guess my biggest problem is that they both play the exact same and have the same scale, except in large scale the units are just bigger and have a bunch of small models instead of one big one. Am I not getting the appeal here?

>>48294104

Are these for a particular game? What company/brand are these?

Sorry for the ignorance if the answers are obvious; I know nothing about naval tabletop wargaming, but it's always held an appeal.

>>48295649
>they both play the exact same and have the same scale, except in large scale the units are just bigger
have you ever played a large scale game? Because this is not the case at all.

For example, Lasalle and Blucher are made by the same guy, so are pretty similar in terms of design philosophy, but 1 is Corps and 1 is whole army scale and they do not play the same at all. The same can be seen in any "genre" not just napoleonics.

>>48295590
>>48295604
The main reason I'm disappointed is that me and my friends have been playing skirmish style games for a while, so when someone told me about large scale games I thought they would be giant awesome conflicts with a shit ton of troops on each side, when in reality you're using less troops than you would in your average skirmish.

>>48295679
They're 1/1800 scale, a mixture of Shapeways and repaints of Axis and Allies: War at Sea stuff. Technically they'd originally be for the War at Sea rule set, but the beauty of any historical mini is that you can use it with a wide range of rules, with a wide range of scope and complexity.

>>48295691
Played one just yesterday called Field of Glory. The rules were "different" but it "felt" the same as running a 20 unit team. I'm not saying it was an awful experience or anything, just disappointing and I'm wondering if I went in with the wrong expectations or something.

>>48295775
You did. If you want the game to finish in the same amount of time (usually club games conform to about 3 hours) you really can't just have more complexity with no downside. Also typically the general wouldn't be directly controlling the actions of specific companies in an infantry brigade, so why bother adding in extra complexity.

To be frank, whenever anyone tries to run full battles with a rule set designed for much smaller numbers of troops it generally gets bogged down and tedious with too much detail and takes much too long.

>>48295822
I suppose that was my problem, I was expecting a larger an longer game than what I'm used to, with rules that would be slightly simplified to account for the larger numbers. Instead I got a shorter game with more complex rules to make up for the fact that there were less units.

>>48295775
Field of glory isn't the kind of game to go for to get the proper big army experience.
Better to go for something good instead like >>48295691 named.

>>48295679
>>48295739
I guess the followup question I should have asked was is there a particular period or interest you have? There's a decent selection of rules in the naval folder in the OP mediafire.

>>48296405

Thanks for the info! And I'll have a look through those folders, see what strikes my fancy.

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so just moved to a new area

only paints available at my local store are tamiya and Mr color.

never used either. i generally use citadel and Vallejo

opinions?

>>48299059
Stick with what you're used to, the alternatives there are not good.

>>48299059

Japan?
Tamiya's not bad, just be sure to use their thinner.

>>48299059
You can just use cheap acrylics from any stationary store. Literally the same shit thats in a citadel bottle. I usually buy a set of acrylic paints for ~$25 and it has every color (and you can mix them of course)

It wont be the same as using the "foundation" or "ink" sets, but it will paint your miniatures. I never use anything else, make my own washes with water, easy as pie.

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>>48288423
They look much better with their transfers on!

>tfw tricoleurs at this scale is literally a single line with the smallest brush I have. Single line of blue, single line of white, single line of blue. SO SMALL

>>48301475
Where do you get transfers at this scale?

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>>48301824
doms decals.

They're not great, you have to hand cut them and varnish over them or they'll fall off. Quite a few dissolved in the varnish... but when they work, damn they look great. Maltese crosses at this scale really set of the planes of the luftstreitkrafte. And no RFC aircraft is complete without roundels!

pic is some other guys collection, same minis, same scale, but he hand paints his instead of using transfers. Does a pretty good job too!

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>Had /tg/ open with pic of biplanes
>mate came around and saw
>now going to play Dogfight! next week

nice, its been too long since I busted out the ole WW1 aircraft

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Thanks to a generous person in the share thread, we now have a complete set of FGU's Privateers and Gentlemen, their Age of Sail RPG/wargame. Up until this we only had the wargame rules (Hearts of Oak). Score!

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/85487akatmoew/Privateers_and_Gentlemen

>>48303167
Splice the mainbrace for this anon!

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>>48303216
Alright but I'll need a few drinks first

>>48281909

to be fair those are rational arguments

>>48287881

you've clearly never heard of the British armoured division that was painted entirely flat gray, and poorly constructed with visible mould lines

>>48303686
How is that the same as what you replied to?

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Got pretty soundly beaten in a game of Blucher at my local club last night, pic related.

What games have you managed to get in recently /hwg/?

>>48303563
This is not at all what I was led to believe the navy was like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw

>>48295699
sounds like your issue is with figure-scaling (1 mini = 20 men or whatever), which distorts the visual appearance of the game.
sounds like you're ready for 6mm

>>48305300
>sounds like you're ready for 6mm
Or a huge table

>>48305351
Let's be honest, 28mm Fistful of TOWs in a gym will continue to be the impossible dream.

>>48305366
I think you mean 6mm Fistful of TOWs in a gym covering a gigantic real life geographical area.

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>>48305436
I didn't realise it was possible to be this erect.

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Had these figures for command bases lying around here half of them painted half only primed and I finally finished them after three years of not working on my Milanese project.

>>48306771
That's a spicy flag you've got there.

>>48306843

It's printed. ;_;

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>>48306872
Eh, it still looks cool so who cares?

>>48306771
Lovely.

>>48306771
Nice! What rules use that basing?

>>48287149
Armaments in Miniature make some which pivot/tilt and with a magnet built in on top

>>48307134

I always intended to use them with Impetus or Hail Caesar, those are just command bases.

>>48306771
Looking good anon.

>>48301333
I find that cheap acrylics barely have enough pigment for picture painting, let alone miniatures.

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>>48292977
'nother small update, stuff's coming along nicely, I really enjoy doing this project. How are the others progressing?

>>48308282
I only use it for terrain where you need a lot and you can getting away with slopping on half a tube. I wouldn't use it on miniatures.

>>48310321
I'm still waiting for shit to ship.

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Do you guys know 1-48combat? Has anyone ever played it? I never saw anyone talk about the game.

I just stumbled across their facebook presence and they offer some really nice looking miniatures.

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pic related are not mine, but i was hoping one of you guys might know a source for these "squad movement trays" on an ovale base. I checked ebay and my favorite online hobby stores but they offer only movement trays for regiments in square format (which would look kinda bad for ww2/modern squads)

Is there any reason why I can't have confederate flags on my M4 Sherman in BA?

>>48311100
Check Warbases and East Riding, if they don't have them, email them and ask if they can make some.

>>48311137
I'll be amazed if some units didn't stick one on an antenna at some point.

>>48311137
Historical precedence?

>>48311185
They did it in 'nam, so I guess they could have gotten cocky in Normandy too.

>>48311209
Rule of cool, man. Rule of cool.

>>48311209
>http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/the-confederate-flag-debate

>However, the usage of the Confederate flag was mostly limited to the political minority in the southern states until the mid-20th century, when it enjoyed a large-scale revival as the official emblems and battles of several South-based U.S. military units during the World War II.

>>48311209

Yeah that's kind of what I'm after. It' seems like something that must have happened but I can't find any evidence.

>>48311235
>Rule of cool, man. Rule of cool.

Basically. I don't care about any of the social or political connotations, it's just a cool as fuck flag.

>>48303996
Fukken none. The only thing I get to play with these days is myself.

>>48311297
I mean if there's any appropriate context to use a battle flag, surely it is in wargaming?

>>48311329
Well, where else would you use a battle flag?

>>48308282
For deep and dark colours like black, green, blue, etc I use cheap acrylics. Stuff like yellow and red deserve high pigment mini paints.

Although as each pot of cheap stuff runs out I tend to replace it with good stuff unless the colour us dark or mostly for bases.

>>48311297
>After the Battle of Okinawa a Confederate flag was raised over Shuri Castle by a Marine from the self-styled "Rebel Company" (Company A of the 1st Battalion, 5th Marines).


Just play a "southern" unit and you will be fine

>>48311362
>Company A of the 1st Battalion, 5th Marines

I'm playing marines so this is perfect.

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>>48311354
On the roof of your car when you're goin' round a-causin' trouble in Hazzard County?

>>48311384

>On July 2, 2015, golfer Bubba Watson, current owner of LEE 1, announced via Twitter that he would be painting over the Confederate flag on the car's roof.[11][12] Watson's announcement prompted Brian Grams, director of the Volvo Auto Museum, to offer to purchase Watson's General Lee, citing how Watson's car was significant because it was used in the show's first season and would be worthy of inclusion in the museum's collection. His offer was turned down.[13]

Some people don't deserve nice things.

>>48310321
That sir, is froody.

>>48311302
Sorry to hear it mate.

>>48311302
This. At least I get to paint and dream.

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>>48311137
>Is there any reason why I can't have confederate flags on my M4 Sherman in BA?
Yes, one: Haunted Tank was a Stuart, not a Sherman

Someone know if a PDF of "On the German Art of War: Truppenfuhrung" by Bruce Condell exist?

>>48313883
I was actually pretty disappointed by the sequel mini series. Writing was kind of janky even if it did provide some great reaction images.

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Heya /hwg/
I have a question about Soviet Armour, and Helicopters of the Cold War era, was there an approved scheme for Winter? Particularly for Hinds?

>>48303563
>>48304326

I always liked the Columbo song myself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHB-mNyS8YI

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>>48314760
You could go for the white and grey camo (not pictured)

It doesn't seem like they'd really re-paint the camo for winter operations. tanks in WW2 yes, but not heli's in modern times. Camo on a heli seems a bit superficial anyway. its extremely loud, (comparatively) slow moving and a massive heat signature so camo is only going to be good if you're trying to hide it on the ground and while its not switched on.

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>>48314760
Really can't find any evidence of a winter camo scheme being used on Soviet helicopters (other than an appearance in Red Dawn, which is hardly realistic!). They were hidden on the ground under traps so I guess it wouldn't have mattered then. One would have thought they'd do something in arctic climates though.

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Got a bit carried away with detailing...

Hey lads, got the hang of Rule the Waves, great fun. Got a couple of solid 1899 designs now that suit my playstyle and are futureproofed to be solid until the teens with a rebuild.

>>48319813
That game is top of my list for next time I get some disposable income.

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current projects

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Welp, I call it finished.

http://imgur.com/a/gSRVD

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>>48311209
It didn't get it's real popularity until the 50's but it was not completely unknown. If it was to be found it would be found with southerners and units that considered themselves a southern unit.

(pic)
Lt. Col. Wray Blackford delivers a speech to the personnel of the 8th Evacuation Hospital during celebrations of Jefferson's Birthday, 13 April 1944 WW2.

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>>48326144
Capt. John D. Fleming of Columbia, Tennessee commander of the B-29 "Goin' Jesse" waves a Confederate flag as he prepares to take off. Fleming carries the flag as a good luck charm.

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>>48326154
(pic)
Marine Okinawa Beach

(related but not exact to pic as I understand)
After the Battle of Okinawa a Confederate flag was raised over Shuri Castle by a Marine from the self-styled "Rebel Company" (Company A of the 1st Battalion, 5th Marines). It was visible for miles and was taken down after three days on the orders of General Simon B. Buckner, Jr. (son of Confederate general Simon Buckner, Sr.), who stated that it was inappropriate as "Americans from all over are involved in this battle". It was replaced with the regulation, 48-star flag of the United States.[

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>>48326179

This is in response to >>48311235
>They did it in 'nam

It was fucking prolific in the 60"s

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Souvenir that my uncle had from his time in Marine aviation unit from 1968 - 1971

>>48325702
well i like it a lot.

>>48325702
Looks neet. 28mm or 1/72?

>>48326636
Thanks.

>>48326674
1:76 to be exact. Thanks.

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Has anyone of you guys ever tried to use aquarium decorations as terrain? Is there a way to tell if its fitting to a certain scale if i'm about ordering the terrain pieces online?

>>48325702
It's beautiful, but didn't the old Airfix 1/32 Strongpoint also have a bunch of sandbags in one corner?
So much a piece of my childhood...

>>48327151
Yep, the 1:76 set has it too, tho I didn't exactly figured it out that it should be put to the corner of the building as one side is hollow...oh well, you learn something every day. Thanks!

>>48319847
>>48319813
Just read a review, sounds pretty cool, almost a Mahanian Mordheim

Why did model railroading take off in North America but wargaming did not (at least compared to UK)?

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>>48330287
Hex&counter wargaming seems to have been bigger than miniature wargaming there. All the great h&c companies were American and during the golden age circa 1980 they were selling tens of thousands of units a year. That's not to say there weren't minis players in the US and h&c in the UK (because obviously there were a lot of each) but the different styles do seem to have dominated.

>>48330287
Train guys aren't human beings so much as partially self-aware manifestations of autism leaking into this plane of existence. Prolonged exposure may give you asperger's and in extreme cases may cause a rare 35 SD40-2 train, complete with properly scaled terrain, to materialize in your basement, even if you live in an apartment. They mainly roam North America due to our lack of functional passenger trains, to remind us of what mankind was placed here to do: lay tracks. When SEPTA finishes their emergency remodeling of a few hundred cars and finally goes to places on time, they will vanish from my region as well and it will be as if they were never here. But the trains remember.

>>48330287
Distance.
There's a lot less of it in the UK between people and places.

>>48330680
>35 SD40-2 train
This doesn't sound prototypical, even for a power swap.

I blame my dad for that. He's the rail fan, not me.

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>>48327092
I bought a few pieces, but not with historicals in mind. Bottom line to me is that they are cheaper than models in most cases and work fine for scenery, but you gotta be mindful of what you buy. Sometimes buying actual scenery might be cheaper and since it's made with the intention to be useable as scenery in a game it also might be better suited in case you want something a mini is supposed to be standing in or something.

>Is there a way to tell if its fitting to a certain scale if i'm about ordering the terrain pieces online?
I've been taking the measurements of the amazon page and used that as a reference. If you know the approximate size you should be able to make a reasonably informed decision. If it's not 100% the right scale I wouldn't worry about it, especially if you play BoltAction or something like that, where the scales are a little wonky anyway.

>>48316545
>>48318135
Further question. T-72s have Rubber Skirts, would they have been hit with the whitewash or would they be detached before they were painted?

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>>48333043
It seems not. Barrel definitely gets a camo job though. The white sheet / tarp over the top is interesting too. If you want to hide a T-72 you want to dig it in somewhere, have it hull down, either that or your operating in snow so the bottom half is covered in snow anyway. The turret and barrel seem to be the only things they camo.

There's lots of images of full tank camo like the barrel in this image, but they're all toys and seem to be following rule of cool. Couldn't find any actual photos of full white/green camo on a T-72.

>>48330680
Hey, I like model trains, and I'm only very slightly autistic. Then again, I like the whole scale diorama setup part of it much more than the exact particulars of the trains

>>48333133
Is it too much of a stretch to assume that Team Yankee's World War Three situation would stretch into January, and further is it also a huge violation to use a WW2 style Whitewash Scheme? I'm just really into the idea of a massed horde of white tanks at the moment. Or at least grubby white tanks.

>>48333225
Wars always seem to stretch on longer than people think they will. Unless its the first gulf war, but thats kind of a special situation.

I mean you can pretty much do what you want painting wise, but realistically whitewash isn't really a thing in modern times. Radar and IR make camo kind of superfluous. Only infantry and spec ops teams really need camo, and thats assuming the enemy doesn't have IR...

>>48327092
I have.
But i've never used them directly, always integrated them into a larger piece of terrain.
Be mindful of the prices as they can get absurdly expensive fast, but garage sales, dollar stores, and closing pet shops are your friends.
For historical and sci-fi they're quite hit or miss, but for fantasy they usually work great.

There are several of different scales, what I suggest to do is to always have a spare miniature in your pocket as a reference, or a small paper cutout in your wallet so, in a pinch, you can verify the scale

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What does your retinue look like for a lion rampant game? Just Got into warranting and minipainting and I want to compare.

>>48330697
Thats not an argument really. There are lots of small countries in the EU, but wargaming is only really big in the UK.

>>48327092
Plastic Aquarium plants are ideal for jungles.

>>48335830
Think only rich, western countries, exclude Germany.

You don't know hillarious (from the 2016 point of view) stuff that happend.For example: Parcel with east front themed game was confiscated on the border for there was contempt in the so-called Bureau of Security that you could play both Rooskies and Germans, and box displayed both communist and Nazi regalia, ,,suggesting equality and therefore defacing our Greatest Ally". Guy who ran small Varsaw wargaming club (which litteraly no-one but members heard about and was part of some Socialist-youth organisation) was well-connected, old low ranking party white collar. Yet, despite this all, he still was in trouble to set this situation straight. And it was '80.

>>48333900
>what I suggest to do is to always have a spare miniature in your pocket as a reference
You don't actually walk around with a mini on your locker do you?

>>48323761

It always strikes me as absurd how a a scene from a movie built to help us "emphatize" with the Afghans is now pretty much "T55s shooting brown muslim people, awesome"

Propaganda is a hell of a drug.

That said, any good resources for Samurai colour schemes&painting? I'l a complete newb regarding Asian warfare and I get a small Ronin warband to paint.

>>48337001
Here in Hungary, while not that much of a mainstream hobby, it's not that obscure either. Basically every bigger city has at least one wargaming club, and our capital has a dozen if not more. 4-5 wargaming stores too, plus some more around in the country.

>>48337131
There was a really good compilation in one of the forums complete with flags and everything, but I can't remember where exactly...I'll try to see if I can find anything relevant.

>>48337131
>>48337828
Found it!

http://www.samurai-archives.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1638&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=7211c3f090a5cfdda587eb96ff71a91c

It's mostly for heraldry, and as far as I'm concerned, their armour was "whatever you fancy" with the exception for Ashigaru. Basically I'd say to go with whatever you like, or pick a clan and use their mon. Hopefully I'll get to painting my Feudal Japanese armies at one point, and I could get some more tasty RedBox Japs.

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>>48337131
>It always strikes me as absurd how a a scene from a movie built to help us "emphatize" with the Afghans is now pretty much "T55s shooting brown muslim people, awesome"

Tell that to Rambo 3

>That said, any good resources for Samurai colour schemes&painting? I'l a complete newb regarding Asian warfare and I get a small Ronin warband to paint.

Here are all Samurai-related Ospreys for honorable baka gaijin

http://www.mediafire.com/download/wkxb1phc5asb1w3/Osprey+-+BOR+036+-+Samurai+Armies+1467-1649.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/o9yauzrc0d9ey2x/Osprey+-+ELI+023+-+The+Samurai.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/i2tfw4rbz8934pt/Osprey+-+ELI+035+-+Early+Samurai+200-1500.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/lt8d8tvl1hgnnko/Osprey+-+ELI+082+-+Samurai+Heraldry.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/812h3q27f54d634/Osprey+-+ELI+125+-+Samurai+Commanders+%281%29+940-1576.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/e1vge554ecbrwo1/Osprey+-+ELI+128+-+Samurai+Commanders+%282%29+1577-1638.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/7wcdhsayocgeacp/Osprey+-+MAA+086+-+Samurai+Armies+1550-1615.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/e9m4096gx9ok4vx/Osprey+-+WAR+007+-+Samurai+1550-1600.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/lg4w0zyhdp5rtmh/Osprey+-+WAR+151+-+Samurai+Women+1184-1877.pdf

>>48337898
>>48337976

Thanks!

Pity for the lack of good 28mm samurai women. A model like the one we see in Turnbull's book would make for a quite peculiar warband.

Whatevs. Thanks again!

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>>48339138
Seems I missed a couple. I'm trying to curate a few piles of related Ospreys; this should do for a Samurai one, I'm working on one for Native American stuff next (there's something like 20 titles).

http://www.mediafire.com/download/u8or7a0mh3tvrtl/Osprey+-+CAM+040+-+Sekigahara+1600.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/aew9f8mmy2as12h/Osprey+-+CAM+069+-+Nagashino+1575.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/v89hhvwt2v0duvv/Osprey+-+CAM+130+-+Kawanakajima+1553-64.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/7r5jl0n9n6tobcq/Osprey+-+RAID+023+-+The+Revenge+of+the+47+Ronin+1703.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ydynxk5xwnkdva4/Osprey+-+ELI+178+-+Hatamoto+Samurai+Horse+and+Foot+Guards.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/47ker4fyespncvv/Osprey+-+RAID+006+-+Okinawa+1609.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/7r5jl0n9n6tobcq/Osprey+-+RAID+023+-+The+Revenge+of+the+47+Ronin+1703.pdf

>>48333225
yes it is. At best, the WP forces would start to run out of fuel, munitions, spare parts at about the 2 month mark of a protracted war with NATO. And more than likely they would start to run out of those resources far before that.

at about the 2 month mark the entire economy of the Soviet Union would start to break down. It did not have the finances or resources to conduct a long term war.

a war starting in August dragging into January? Not even practical.

try reading the books that Team Yankee is based on. General Sir John Hackett goes into those things.

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>>48340162
Alternatively, it's your game.

Set it in winter if you want to make winter terrain and tanks

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>>48333901
Bad picture of three of my lads. I have washed these now and added some highlights but am not near the models

>>48337131
>complete newb regarding Asian warfare

If your interested in information on the armor this guy spent 6 years studying it in japan. Thou he was a SCA'er and some of it is bent towards that, it is very informative about the armor and historical periods with it.

http://www.sengokudaimyo.com/katchu/katchu.html

>ib4 90's looking webpage

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Don't know if anyone here is into their muskets, but here's some data...

>>48281405
those soviet infantry are the BF ones?

>>48333901
>>48342368
They dont look that great. Be neater, pick out more details, and use washes to cover your mistakes.

>>48342368
>>48343532
The face of the guy with the open helmet needs a wash badly. Also i think a 3rd color (besides of white/blue) might help alot.
More, different brown or maybe even a different metal color.

>>48343609
>>48343532
I have done those things allready but had to use an old picture because im not at home for two week.

>>48343772
ah, alright then

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>>48343532
Working on my next group. Thanks for the cc. What would be a good wash for these guys?

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>>48342368
Also,are there separate rules for handgonners for the Lion Rampant? looking through my recently bought pdf and i dont see anything...

>>48348456
Before you go worrying about washes, I would focus on developing the basics of prepping a miniature. You haven't primed your minis, which is the reason why I can see smudges of plastic showing through the white paint.
Before you do anything with a new miniature, use warm water and dish soap to clean them. Scrub them with an old toothbrush and let them dry. If they are unassembled miniatures, wash the entire sprue before cutting them out and assembling them.

Once they're dry then you can prime them. Primer is a first coat of paint that will give you a good surface to paint on. Army Painter and Citadel make some of the better primers for miniatures, but if you're on a budget Krylon primers will do the trick. Most will use a white or black primer. I'd suggest you use a black primer since painting over white primer is a bitch.

After you learn the basics of prepping a mini, then you can worry about painting. Focus on doing a solid basecoat for everything before moving on to using washes. Thin your paints using a drop of water and mixing it into the paint. Your basecoat should leave no primer showing. Multiple thin layers of paint will always look better than one layer of thick, gloppy paint. It will take longer, but miniature painting is a hobby of patience. Even if you only want to have your minis be at "tabletop quality", a paintjob that is serviceable for gameplay but won't win any awards, it would still be better to have something that looks halfway decent instead of a sloppy half-assed paintjob.

>>48350043
>tfw considered the best painter at my club
>never wash minis
>never prime them
>never seal them
>still tell people to when they ask me advice

I feel like Im the worst

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>>48350043
Damn, i feel stupid for not even making multiple layers on my miniatures things. I guess i got a lot to learn! Thank you.

>>48350201
Not to worry! Mini painting is a somewhat intimidating hobby to get into because of all the amazing works of art that are posted online. I've been doing it for a little over two years and I still feel like I absolutely suck. The biggest thing is to never feel like you've mastered it, or that you've learned all there is to learn. I'm always learning new tricks or methods. If you're serious about it, you should hang around /wip/ here on /tg/. 99% of the stuff posted is Warhammer stuff, but there is always a lot of good advice and guides that you can apply to painting anything.

One last piece of advice, and it's an important one: never, ever, ever repaint the first mini you finish. Ever. Keep your first mini, no matter how shitty it looks. Keep it in a place of honor. As you continue to practice and develop your talents as a painter, look at your first piece from time to time to remind yourself of where you started and how far you've come.

Now go forth, new painter! May your paints be thin, and your brushes be damp!

>>48350201
also inb4 mods delete your reply for posting pone stuff outside of /mlp/

bluefast is best pone

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>>48350326
Thanks man! I'll bookmark that thread as well.

Also I think I have no choice but to follow that last rule considering it would be a sin to throw an entire army away, half assed or not.

Hey better late or never when It comes to learning these painting basics, amiright?

>>48350449
also tbf this might've been a terrible build. I was focusing on a "italian" build, with 1 foot men of arms who acted as my general, 1 foot serjeants, 2 foot yeomen(i was planning on dressing them as lowly mercenaries name-wise and had only just started painting until you guys grabbed me) and a thing of pavise crossbow men with gonnes.Also an extra "Patricians Guard" unit who were suppose to also act as Foot men at arms and General. Those fugly guys in red and gold.


I think after i properly paint my next batch of guys i wont hastily put them on bases

>>48342368
Do you put your retinue on Bases for a Lion Rampant?

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>>48350043
>I'd suggest you use a black primer since painting over white primer is a bitch.

Im the opposite, but different strokes and all that.

>>48348456

A brown wash is usually enough for "tabletop quality" miniatures.
If you want, you can use a black wash for all the metal/armor parts and brown for the cloth.

There are specific washes for faces/flesh, but in my opinion thats kinda wasted money and brown looks almost just as good.

There are also washes in green/red/blue etc

For painting white, you should start with a grey basecoat, then do a layer of brighter (mix in some white) grey and finally highlight with pure white.

>>48350139

Don't worry Anon.
People usually suck at painting. Around where i live, nobody is able to paint as good as people in here or /WIP/.
When i offer advise they are all "Nah, i just want to play" which is fine too.

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>>48348456
>>48350449
Don't worry to much Anon.
Pic related were my first miniatures i painted as an "adult" (had a break from the hobby for almost 15 years at that point).

Lurk these (/hwg/ and /WIP/) threads, watch youtube tutorials and ask if you dont understand something or if you need help. People in here, despite 4chans reputation, are generally helpful and actually know what they are talking about (most of the time).

If you are able to listen to advise and follow tutorials your miniatures will improve in notime.

>>48350043
Good prep work will improve the paint's durability as well

>>48351026
>>48350043

Grey primer is masterrace :3

>>48351026
For a beginner, I'd tell them to use black primer. Otherwise I take into account how I want the finished mini to look. The only color I can never get to look good over white is green, though. No matter how many layers, it still looks patchy and shitty. I think I just need to try a different manufacturer at this point.

>>48351198
Also true. Prep is honestly 85% of the work when you look at the painting process in relative terms.

>>48351215
I used to prime everything in grey when I started painting too, anon. ;)

>>48351400
Thing is, he wants parts of his knights to be white. Black primer is probably not the optimal idea in that case.

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>>48351465
Iunno, I use black primer for everything except tanks.

>>48351496
>>48351465
>>48351400
priming isnt even needed if youre good at painting

>>48351507
Based on experience, it is.

>>48351507
It just helps the paint stick and has nothing to do with your skill in painting.

>>48351496
Why not tanks?

>>48351496
i just primed a tank in russian green, but i'm not sure if it wouldn't look better if i had sprayed it black first, especially the lower parts of the hull and tracks.

>>48351707
>>48351724
I use airbrush to apply the base color of the tank, thus no really need for an undercoat, it sticks good, and covers well.

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>>48351740
It looks pretty solid actually, but i think i'll go over it once more in an hour or so. Some spots can use a little bit more paint.

>>48351795
A second coat is usually not a bad idea, but wait till it's throughoutly dry, and apply only a thin coat.

>>48351400
What green you using?

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>>48352607
If you meant me, i'm using a rattle can from army painters warpaint range with a "Flames of War" logo. Color itself is called "Soviet Armor".

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