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Jumpchain CYOA Thread #949: We Must Dissent Edition

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>Last Thread
>>48220838
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So DxD anon do you think could you manage a to Love Ru jump?
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What song will play at the end of your adventures, Jumper?

Even if they never end.
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>>48231774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9nPf7w7pDI
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>picked up pic related in Dragonlance
>now I'm a Greyjoy in ASoIaF

Should I do it, /jc/? Go for Best Dynasty Ever and take the Iron Throne by the Iron Price?

What does my dragon buddy have to worry about besides MAYBE Dany's pets?

10 Jumps in, my best defenses are InFamous regen, Rubber Body Style, and being a Chimera Zoanthrope.
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>>48231826
Well you'll have to worry about your dragon eating you for one, since it's an evil Chromatic.
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>>48231826
Do it.

>>48231850
Bonded Dragon/Rider pairs are pretty loyal to each other, even when Evil.
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>>48231850
Eh, Blues are apparently all about loyalty. More L than E, I'm told.
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>>48231826
What does my dragon buddy have to worry about besides MAYBE Dany's pets?
The fact that the Greyjoys are the most retarded Great House.
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>>48231774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTidn2dBYbY

Though I imagine the sound system I will have designed by that point will destroy the planet it is on at the climax of the song.
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>>48231892
So what you're saying is I need to MAKE THE IRON ISLANDS GREAT AGAIN?
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Guess what happened in Fairy Tail?
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Jumpers. For all your grace and coolness, you no doubt have some memories that you consider embarrassing.
How would you react if those memories were shared? How would your companions react to seeing them?
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>>48231774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXjr657Um5o
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>>48231973
RRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>48231973
Explain it to me

>>48231977
I'd probably eat the person who learned of them.
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>>48231973
Fantasy buddha pope?
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>>48231977
>For all your grace and coolness
>implying
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>>48231977
"I was young and stupid, and hated myself for years afterwards."
>"But... You were, what, a teenager? Younger? And all you did was misspeak..."
"Hated myself - For years - Afterwards."
>*stunned silence*
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What are some good power absorption perks? I wanna go full blue mage on this chain. The Yoshi related perks from Super Mario Rpg seem a good star, if a bit weak.
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>>48231973
More shounen bullshit?
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>>48232007
The BBEG turns out to be the MC's brother. And now apparently they have another brother. Out of fucking nowhere with no foreshadowing whatsoever.
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>>48231774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVTP0DOL_2Q
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>>48232038
Impbuing the Golden Chains from Smite with Power Transfer from Bleach.
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>>48232060
So >>48232051

Man, that's some fucking Kishimoto-level foreshadowing.
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>>48231977
It's pasta and spaghetti all the way down. No mater who's story is being told it will never bet let down

>>48231774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZBCPPTUrjc
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>>48232038
Mimic from Legend of Zelda lets you copy any spell you see performed, as long as you can cast that kind of spell. Depending on how comfortable you are with fanwanking it, if you take Forgotten Realms afterwards, you can choose one where magic-psionics transparency is a thing, because that's not from a setting supplement, and have your powers count them as the same basic power to learn psychic powers in the same way.

Dark Binding from Hellsing, but that requires you to kill and eat your opponent.

I'm sure there are others.
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>>48231977
>Wow, you were a terrible terrible person.
>"Shut up, I know"
> I can't wait to tell everyone. I mean really, a furry?
>"Big words coming from someone who cucked Lucius Malfoy because his wife's hair was pretty"

Yeah, there's a lot of threats, counter threats and bribes among the group in order to keep skeletons in the closet.
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>>48231850
Blues don't eat their riders. If you can bond with one and earn his or her respect, they'll have your back for as long as you're around.
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>>48232038
Sorceress plus Blue Magic in FFVIII lets you copy the abilities of any creature you can dissect and study.
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>>48231977
Those embarrassing memories forged me into the person, and jumper, I am today. All those memories, horriblly,cringy memories? I'll sit their with my shoulders held high with no shame.
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>>48232150
Do they have to be dead?
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>>48232174
Yes. And you only get their strongest ability. But it's still pretty good.
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>>48232174
Yup.

Can someone post that awesome comic about FF Blue magic? That fucker always makes me laugh.
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I have a question /jc/. What are all the perks that inherently link elements of your person together?

Things like Waveform Anatomy from Evangelion that make my body my soul, and my soul my mind, and my mind my body.
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>>48232194
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>>48231774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O96ScQVcKgc

>>48231977
Probably retcon myself from the timeline in a panic.

And anything from resentful glares to gleeful laughter to some shrugs, depending on which companions and which memories we're talking about.

>>48229366
>Lisa and Undertale brought up in the same thread

Until proven otherwise, it is my personal headcanon that the White Flash was essentially an attempt to do what Alphys did in reverse on a wider scale that went horribly wrong or right, everyone can shoot fireballs with martial arts because the Flash gave them some small capacity to use monster-style magic, Joy is some sort of mutative amalgamate extract that acts as a catalyst for LOVE, and Lisa is simply Chara from a timeline where she never worked up the courage to climb that mountain.
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>>48232198
Well, what else is part of your person besides these three things already?
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>>48231774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EFa4PZX8K8
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>>48232232
Magic, at the very least.
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>>48232213
That's a good one. The one where her jaw unhinges and she eats the monster is another good one.
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>>48232213
Kek, I know where that is from. . .
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>>48232038
Mimic from the Kirby jump is pretty good. A little limited, but any respectable Blue Mage cannot miss it.

>>48231977
I've got so very many. I'm not perfect, for all my power and abilities and experience. Thankfully, I take an optimistic look and see these embarrassments as a chance to better myself.

I am, however, very ashamed of the tendency I had early in my chain to get wildly drunk, hand out enchanted equipment with very little in the way of instructions, and loudly proclaim that everyone should "Read my scripture!" while gesturing to my crotch. I did this exactly once per Jump, until my Companions found out about the habit.
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>>48231774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rojPMESoiAA
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>>48232254
Not like Nebezial's style is hard to recognize.
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>>48231774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_wkJ377LzU
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>>48232225
>That first spoiler...
That's positively cute. Of all the things I imagined you would post, that was not one of them.

Obligatory post:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_ASUCKMRCk
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>>48231774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdTtL_TjXKg
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>>48231774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvB6wEIe-is
The adventure never ends.
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>>48232304
Great song
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>>48231774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IITW4P52gC4

>>48231977
Cringing embarrassment. My companions would be probably be treating such a thing like comedy movie night.
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>>48232198
Actually, I wanna know how that works with something like psionics, does that count as being a part of the mind?
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>>48232275
And I only just noticed that those two artists were actually the same person.
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>>48232241
Magical Body from Elona essentially makes your body partially magic, combining it and your mana pool.
Bloody Magical from Spyro's Dragon Shape Supplement makes your blood become saturated with magic, making it a powerful reagent.
Blood Magic from Darkstalkers renders your body composed entirely of shapeshifting blood.
And then Waveform Anatomy of course combines your body and soul, but you knew that.

>>48231977
Well. Thanks to perks it turns out I'm a bipedal cat/leafeon-thing in my true form, which means I have to be shapeshifted constantly or I won't get taken serious. So I get a lot of crap about that.

> "You all realize I'm in charge, right?"
> "Yeah, okay, why don't you go take a nap and lie in the sun for an hour. We'll bring you your jingly ball so you don't get bored."
> "WHY DON'T YOU GO FUCK YOURSELF."
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>>48231774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKnVaDwUg5s
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Hey guys, I have the purified section complete (for now). This will be 0.5. the next WIP will include the Skinchanger perks, following that the slasher perks, and following that new items and disadvantages. Once I have all those I will create a 0.9 with notes based on all the comments and citicisms of the thread and it will remain 0.9 until I feel we have reached a decent concensus on various rulings for this jump.

So here you go. All suggestions, comments, and criticisms welcome!
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>>48231774
https://youtu.be/5p5OyLFQLCc
With the endjump I plan to take, surely this is my send-out.
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>>48232459
Mortals, when will they learn?
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>>48232459
Thanks, really looking forward to the Slasher stuff
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>>48232371
Probably. Although, that has some interesting implications if you consider how Waveform Anatomy makes mind and body and soul all the same thing. If you have psionic powers from, say Raildex, do you now a 'body' with those psionics powers as a passive function of its being?
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So i just reached the One Piece jump and is considering picking up one of those devil fruits. Problem is that i have a hard time deciding, so do anyone got a suggestion for what to pick.
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>>48232790
Choose something because it's fun, not because it's powerful.
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>>48232790
What's your Chain like. What some of the themes you favour and notable abilities that you possess and use regularly.
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>>48232459
Are perks on occult paths discounted to followers (?) of such paths?
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>>48232849
They get the freebies but otherwise occult path perks are undiscounted.
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>>48232459
I'd recommend "compressing" some of the perk lines -- you may have gone a little to deep. In Purified, for example, there are three separate warding perks: Ward Against Supernatural Beings, Ward Against the Living. I'd recommend instead to have a general perk that encompasses all of these things and just up the price. Alternatively, you could have a global perk capstone: something like "Exemplar" or "Grizzled" that increases proficiency or power and clarify its purpose in the notes section. This would make the jump much easier to read, I feel.

If you do neither, however, I would like to note that the organization of Occult perks could be improved -- maybe section them by cost? Or you can have subsections based on perk function, as you seem to have already done; just making them clearer would help immensely.
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>>48232802
Thanks for the tip
I just found the one i what. The Calm-Calm Fruit as it will make sneaking up to friend and give them a little scare way easier.
Thanks to >>48232804 also
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>>48233008
Actually, never mind. I've re-read, and it isn't as necessary as I thought. I would still recommend moving some of that fluff to the notes, though.
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What jumps have sentient/sapient planets/planet spirits? For companion purposes.
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>>48233042
EVO
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>>48232304
...oh, what the hell. You know what, while we're still talking about things that embarrass me?

...

http://pastebin.com/97CY6uKc

For the record: This was technically a joint project between myself and Elodie, of which I have no conceivable use for in my paradigm of preference. It was towards the end of my first career, and only happened after a lot of arguments over hope and despair as rival energy sources, which she used as an attempt to prove me wrong. As far as I'm concerned this is HER work and I was mainly involved only as an advisor and er, raw materials.

Heck, the only reason I deployed in Mage the Awakening was because frankly, the Exarchs were too big a threat to deal with otherwise; they were misusing tyranny and oppresion to slowly destroy the world instead of preserve it, and since I couldn't combat them on my own terms I was FORCED to deploy a perfect counter to their system.

And now I'm stuck with a lot of self-loathing and a bunch of clarktech crystals I have absolutely no goddamn use for, other than as a sink for the reserves of EVO I've never spent.

Which brings me to a question-have you guys ever come up with a combo, only to never use it for anything?
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>>48233008
I know that its a lot and reading it all might be a bother but i've tried to remain true to the source material while also separating them from the game mechanics.

>>48233035
Okay, I'll try to cut it down and send the cuts to the notes. It might be a bit hard though. But I will give it all a thorough look.
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>>48233042
Ar Tonelico has at least one, but it's going to take a bit of work to companion her. She's gone a little off the deep end.
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>>48233042
Nasu.

Go ahead. Do it.
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>>48233072
you're joking right?
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>>48233072
>Implying it'd even be particularly difficult for me to romance gaia
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>>48233070
I disagree with him. Don't cut any of it.
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>>48233066
I never use anything.
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>>48233066
Can't you use this stuff for... like White Magic (Slayers) a ton of White Magic (Slayers). Hell with this much Friendship you might even be able to cast Holy magic without a source.
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>>48232437
>angrily yelling at someone to do something

It just occurred to me that with some perks, e.g. Words Have Power, losing your temper and yelling at your companion(s) to "go do X" could result in lasting consequences/divorces/funerals/grudges...
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>>48233127
>Gaia
>Not ORT
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>>48233071
>Someone is actually going to try and waifu Ar Ru
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>40) Chronicles of Narnia
>Outlander
>Human

>Choice Apothegms and Useful Maxims
>The Preservation of Man
>I Know Just What You Need
>Favor of Tashlan
>Narnian Time
>Born to Rule
>Balony Detection

>Lods Emone x2

>Companion Import
>Vriska, Terezi, Aranea, Porrim (Outlander, Human, Choice Apothegms and Useful Maxims, The Preservation of Man, Lods Emone x2, Apple of Life)
>Aradia, Meenah, Kanaya (Narnian, Human, Friend of the Wild, The Preservation of Man, Endless Tea, Trees of Silver and Gold)
>Feferi (Drop-In, Human, Claim to Hospitality, The Preservation of Man, Fairy Stories Clock of Ages)

>Arranged Marriage
>Know It All
>BBC Budget
>What Are They Teaching in These Schools
>Turkish Delight

I'm a Calorman prince, looking to dodge his arranged marriage. The land of eternal winter up north sounds like a good place to hide. Besides, there's a prophecy about sons of Adam and daughters of Eve being its rightful rulers. Sounds like that's probably referring to us! Two "sons" of Adam? Why, just look at the Serkets' god-tier clothes. Clearly it meant two "suns" of Adam. Only four thrones? That's so that we can sit in each others' laps. God I love how gullible these people are. This is easily the best drawback I've ever taken.

Anyway, we utterly decimated Jadis's army and Befriended her before the Percivels ever even made it to Narnia. Jadis agrees to atone for her evil ways by serving as the royal cook, and making me tons of sweet, sweet Turkish Delight. Then we can begin conquering the rest of the world. Aslan never did wind up having to sacrifice his life. (You're welcome, Jesus!)

I've also finally got a way to make the rest of the trolls immortal. Fruit that gives literal immortality is really important especially if I could learn to reproduce it... but I don't want to risk having some of my best friends (and one of my wives) stay mortal. So I have the trolls eat the apples right away. Not the best idea in the long run, but it's been 400 years. They deserve it.
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>>48233042
Alpha Centauri, Captain Planet.
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>>48232664
I wonder; if you have waveform anatomy and no psionics, would that make your soul or physical abilities technically count as psionics because your body and soul are your mind and vice versa?
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>>48233166
>>48233071

What's wrong with them exactly?
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claiming arabian nights from anon who offered it up a fewthreads back.
The reread BEGINS!
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>>48232459
You mention that Purified abilities cost Essence but I didn't see anywhere you actually say how they recharge Essence.
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>>48233019
It properly also has a lot of unexplored potential due to the fact that calm is a very broad term but Rosinante only used it on applied it to sound.
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>>48233070
Alright, well I'm looking forward to it either way. Thank you for your consideration, but as >>48233143 points out, I don't speak for the thread.

I seems like you're almost done, though. When you post the "finished" WIP, it'll be easier to provide feedback.
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>>48233222
Oops, I'll add that to the purified section in the notes.
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>>48233263
A number of perks read along the lines of:
>You have learned...
>Characters who learn...
>As the first step of learning...
>Purified can learn...

Does this mean that characters of an Occult Path can obtain such abilities in-jump through practice and study?
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>>48233163
Luckily, I don't have any of those.
I just have a lot of stacked "I'm cute!" and "You should forgive me!" perks. So, I can throw all the childish tantrums I want!

If anything, jumpchain has enabled me not in my quest for power, but in my ability to act like a spoiled brat with little to no repercussions.
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>>48233066
Well that combo is certainly interesting. A little above my head, but an interesting read nonetheless. I wonder if it could be modified to generate love for the ultimate Black Mage Hadoken.

As for my own combos, I tend to combine technologies instead perks, so I'm not that interesting on that front. But I /do/ tend to create a lot of useless devices.

The current holder for most useless is the Memory Gauntlet I created. I'll keep the rundown brief.

+ Start with an Invader Zim PAK. Strip out the memory & personality back-up circuitry.
+ Replace the storage chips with a GUNNM Brain Bio-Chip to allow it to compensate for various types of brain pattern.
+ Permanently enchant the fingers with a Memory Reading spell. You can use whichever one you want. This is to make the process much less painful. Otherwise you have to bore into the subject's nervous system with mechanical tentacles.

That's pretty much it. This whole device fits into a device about the size of a standard iron gauntlet. It allows you to read a person's entire memory in only a few moments and keep a copy of it for later use. I had initially designed it to allow me to resurrect companions that died without a way for me to revive them directly. But then one of my companions reminded me that the device is basically useless when compared to literally any magic ever.

I believe I response was a little along the lines of "Well, your face is stupid!" before I tossed the thing on a shelf.
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>>48233308
Some. I'll add in some notes and details about it.

Psychic powers can eventually develop into others that have that power as a prerequisite with incredible willpower and practice.

Purified Siddhi can be developed along the path with matching prerequisites but it takes a while.

Thaumaturgy rituals can be learned easier, but not just through practice and study. They must be discovered.

Skin thief aspects cannot be learned.

Slasher's cannot learn new ripper abilities through training, and only the ripper abilites they have may evolve into scourge abilities. Other Ripper powers can be learned.
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>>48233370
>other ripper powers

I meant other slasher powers, my bad.
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>>48231774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loTcZHoIYfQ

My jumpchains have this eerie tendency to be really melancholy once the high of power dies down. This seems fitting.
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If I Awaken in Claymore, can I FMA Alchemy to make human guts to eat?
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>>48233208
She's an avatar of one of the Voices of the Planet (the gods, manifestations of the planet of Ar Ciel's consciousness.) She personally is in charge of creating and leading the Viruses (I think I got the name wrong here, too lazy to check), which are unnatural creatures that live in that killer fog of madness and pain you've probably been told about. She's finally leading them into the towers and attacking humans directly in preparation for when she and the other maddened Voices will purge humanity face-to-face before resetting the planet so it can recover from the damaged core.
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>>48233427
No, FMA Truth hates human alchemy, it's honestly kind of shit tier.
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>>48233427
Why would you think you might? FMA alchemy doesn't do human bits without a philosopher stone, which would basically just be a storage mechanism for the human guts you need.
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>>48233211
Neat.

>>48233179
Enjoy your ugly wife.
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>>48233455
Hey, my wives are QTs. I kept dodging that woman I was betrothed to by running off to conquer foreign lands.
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>>48233211
Only one question from me.

Since it is included in the oldest copies, will the 7 Adventures of Sinbad be included?
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>>48233448
Isn't that just resurrection? I remember it working on humans for other shit.

Pic related.
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>>48233427
Mustang made a false human body when helping that one corporal escape Amestrian prison. Considering the issue of Human Transmutation is mostly shit involving the soul, so long as you stick with the chemical / fleshy bits, you should be fine
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>>48233427
I don't see why not, as long as you're not trying to give it a soul or some dumb shit.
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>>48233427
The only issue with human transmutation is the soul, if you don't fuck with that you will be fine. There is a lot of alchemy done that messes with human flesh and alkahestry specializes in medical transmutations, with sufficient research you should be able to mimic human flesh for consumption.
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>>48233427
Reminder that FMA is a trap jump that permanently gimps your ability to mess around with human souls on pain of Truth.
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>>48233515
That doesn't sound right.
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>>48231774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL-iFFAdKSk
Thank you for taking a chance on me Jumpchan
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>>48233427
You'll need a list of the components to make a human body. And not Ed's, it's garbage, he's off by a fair clip on a lot of fronts. You'll need to actually do research to find out what's actually in a human body.

But, after you do that, yeah, you should be able to do it.

Symbiote would be easier. Eat literally anything else, or find a way to never need calories in the first place *cough*Ring of Sustenance*cough* and you're golden, just grow a clone. Or Jump Cortex Command for the body pods and grow a bunch of reject bodies. They look like zombies but technically are just dumb, underdeveloped, malformed clones.
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>>48233524
That's probably the shitposter.
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>>48233574
You're definitely the shitposter.
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>>48233565
If you're interested, someone already figured that out. You are right though. Ed did pretty good considering his age at the time, but he's off by a lot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composition_of_the_human_body
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>>48231774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8ir8rVl2Z4

>The road is now calling And I must away
Can't think of better song for a jumper.

>>48231977
My companions would have a good laugh and rib me from time to time. If they start getting annoying I remind them I can turn them into a parsnip.
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>>48233593
I'm potentially the shitposter.
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>>48233524
We've had a rash of limitwankers lately, trying to claim that certain choices are weaker than they actually are. Ignore them. Eventually, they'll go away.
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>>48233625
This is legitimate though, considering Truth is an intrinsic aspect of FMA alchemy and Truth doesn't allow human soul fuckery, and definitely wouldn't tolerate it even if you didn't use alchemy for it.
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>>48233492
It can't make human flesh, it can combine humans with other things, or it can cause healing similar to natural healing but very rapidly.
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>>48233666
So just don't use FMA alchemy for human soul fuckery. Use another magical system for that. Profit.
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>>48233677
>healing similar to natural healing but very rapidly.
Does it cause advanced aging like with Tsunade and Naruto?
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>>48233666
Even if it would stop you, that'd be only for the jump's duration.
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>>48233688
Nope, you'd still be punished for it by Truth.
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>>48233704
He follows you with our alchemy, so you'd never be able to mess with souls ever again after taking FMA alchemy.
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>>48233708
>implying Truth can follow you

TOKI WO TOMARE, remember?
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>>48233708
You're going to have to make a better argument than that if you expect me to believe you. Explain it to me why the Truth has /any/ power over other magical systems.
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>>48233708
Tell Truth to fuck off? You're not even in the same universe anymore.
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Reminder that They Saved Hitler's Brain is a trap jump that permanently replaces your brain with Hitler's.
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>>48233708
What is Truth exactly? Their is not a single doubt in my mind that one can find Perks that would allow one to Diplomance/Kill whatever this "Truth" is somewhere within the Chain.
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>>48233721
...No he doesn't. It's Benefactor Fiat.
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>>48233738
Truth is an Omnipotent god. You can't do anything about him.
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>>48233732
I HAVE A MIGHTY NEED!!!!!
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>>48233738
God. I think.
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Lets not do this whole Truth arguement.

It will only lead to arguing in circles. Again. FOR EFFECTIVELY THE TENTH THREAD IN A ROW
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>>48233600
Yep. And Film Theory did an episode on it. Postulated on what, exactly, was wrong with their attempt to clone their mom that it created a barely coherent mass of vaguely human-shaped flesh. A lot of it was on the effects of too little or too much of certain compounds in the human body, so it's also a good watch, if you're interested in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3EIDSIvmZs

>>48233666
He's also isolated to a single universe, so there's little problem, as long as you can keep it in your pants, with regards to soul dickery, for ten years, you're fine.
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>>48233730
Exactly I can't believe the Jump maker would believe anyone would let a universe specific entity gimp their entire chain

At most TRUTH fucks with your soul manipulation in jump after that I consider him a non factor as he is tied to his home multiverse
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>>48233756
Border of Life from Touhou
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>>48233738
Sorta God. But partly in name only? He's the big dick OG of the setting and mostly wants people to grow the fuck up and learn to deal with life instead of breaking everything because they're butthurt.
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>>48233775
>Tenth
Anon, you're off by nearly a factor of 100.
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>>48233762
No you don't. After that jump, you can never bring anyone back to life ever again, because you have Hitler's brain, and Hitler's brain would never want to resurrect someone else.
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>>48233775
People are PAINFULLY fucking retarded. This guy does his whole "x is a trap" shitposting and they ALWAYS buy it.
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>>48233702
No but it also can't heal stuff on that level. Basically all it was shown to do is turn a wound into a scar. At least without a philosopher stone.
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>>48233777
No, he follows you, this was a ruling to prevent people from using alchemy to do soul fuckery, he follows you post jump.
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>>48233708
>>48233721
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FFTA ruled that Truth does not follow you post-jump, and if you continue to think human flesh can't be transmuted - look up the episode where Mustang saves Lieutenant Ross
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>>48233777
Oh, excellent! Much appreciated. I will watch it later. I'm always interested in this kind of thing.

Have some excellent booty shaking as a thank you.

>>48233775
I'll admit, I bit, but I find it hilarious that he has ignored my demand for a direct explanation.

One day I'll learn not to bite at bait. Today is not that day.
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>>48233831
I'd say please make it that day, but that .Gif has placated me.
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>>48233853
Delicious booty does soothe many wounds and forgives most transgressions.
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>>48233810
>Notes:
>2. All the Negatives from Truth and Homunculus will disappear once you leave this world.

Try again.
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>>48233853
Anon, just because someone posts an enthralling gif doesn't mean that they can say whatever they want.

Or does it?

I loathe shounen.
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>>48233911
You still can't do human soul fuckery post jump though, and any attempt to do so leads to Truth permanently fucking your shit up.
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>>48233911
I don't know why you guys treat bait like it's something you can convince and talk to.
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>>48233926
Anon, we all loathe Shounen. We're just there for the pretty fight scenes and because the shitty writing gives us hateboners.
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>>48233938
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>>48233883
Aye.
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>>48233950
I like shounen. It's just simple entertainment.
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>>48233926
Dear lord, the booty ratio is off the charts! I can't even hear your opinion over all this jelly shaking!
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Anyway I can perfectly assimilate some Mango Sharingans without buying them?

Because I want Susanoo and Obito's space techniques, but I'm not being from Clan Bleeding Edge.
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>>48233926
>I loathe shounen.
Agreed.
Shounen, in general, is on par with superhero comics, xianxia, and fanfiction.
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>>48233950
real boners > hate boners
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>>48233975
Booty for the Booty Gods!
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>Mass-based weaponry is illegal within TSAB worlds

Does this include natural weapons, or will nobody mind if I headbutt something?
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>>48234004
>xianxia
What's that?
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Guys, slow down. This thread can only handle so much booty.
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>>48234040
Magical wuxia, basically.
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>>48234031
Actually, what's up with that? I've never seen Nanoha, but aren't city-busting lasers constantly getting thrown around? But six shooters are illegal?
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>>48234056
Lies and blasphemy.
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>>48234040
Magic Wuxia that would make shounen power escalation blush.
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>>48234059
Because magic is "clean" in a sense or something, I dunno.
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>>48234056
HERESY MOST FOUL AND UNHOLY!
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>>48234040
Xianxia is like the elder brother of Wu Xia. Wu Xia is the adventure of a Hero. Xianxia is the adventure of an Immortal. This is Chinese genre for you.

>>48234059
City-Busting Lasers that only hurt what you've set them to hurt, as even the environment can be reset with the proper prep. Mass weapons were outlawed because they were too brutal and basically because they were seen as terror weapons.
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It's kind of astonishing how far the thread has fallen.

The fact is, that Truthposter is right, but because the thread can't differentiate between people who disagree with their powerwanking and people who are trolling, it really doesn't matter anymore.

So, fuck it, you idiots can do anything. You want human transmutation? Go ahead, do it, not like there's anything to stop you. Why do you just create Philosopher Stones out of fucking nothing, at that point? Why don't you just become god and transmute entire planets at your leisure? There isn't anything to indicate that you can't! Except all the things that actually do show that you can't, but ignore those. So of course you can!
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In dragonlance if you buy a magic item can you trade the +5 bonus for a weapon for + 5 worth of weapon abilities, like wounding, flaming, sharpness, etc?
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>>48234107
Get better bait asshole.
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Booty booty booty!
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>>48234107
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>>48234128
Jeez, calm down.

Blue board.
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>>48234107
Speaking to the choir. The thread's in its worst state ever, filled to the brim with SB retards, and all of them cry shitposter or bait and start posting garbage at any sigh of dissent to their rampant bullshit.
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>>48234103
>City-Busting Lasers that only hurt what you've set them to hurt
Wait that's how it works? I thought it was because it was a Magical Girl anime.
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>>48234107
>Why don't you just become god and transmute entire planets at your leisure?
Bruh. People have been doing that for a long time.
At the very least since Terraformers
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>>48234107
This.

We need a purge. Everyone posting asses in the thread right now should be banned.
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>>48233996
They can be transplanted, yes.
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>>48234140
Just trying to give people something to look at other than shitposting.
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>>48234164
THE ROACHES HAVE IT COMING
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>>48234166
I may be posting asses, but at least I'm not a posting ass.

Shut up, it sounded better in my head.
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>>48234172
Yeah, but all it takes is getting poked in the eye the wrong way an I'm fucked, because my regen won't work on them. Also, you can't turn them off and they use way more chakra.
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>>48234175
sounds like a plan
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>>48234177
One of the few settings where it's okay to powerwank, as long as you kill the fucking roaches.
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>>48234112
I don't think that's how it works.
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>>48234166
You are not my king yet, boy. Nor would I obey that command if you were!
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>>48234166
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>>48234056
>Too much booty
Are you Irish?
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>>48234199
You can live with the chakra drain. See Kakashi or Pein.

Might be worth grabbing some genetics perks and creating a backup though, in case something happens to your eye.
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>>48234107
I didn't see it before you posted this, but really, the responses made me realize that you fuckers are right.

This thread is as bad as Spacebattles at this point, with all the people who will literally ignore every limit and call everything that calls them out on it bait.
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>>48234056
There is literally no such thing.
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>>48234157
It is a Magical Girl anime and to answer your question... Magic.
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>>48233756
no limits fallacy

besides, didn't Father eat him without instantly being erased from reality?
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Everyone of you posting butts should feel terrible and be blocked. This isn't /e/. More over, this is jumpchain, so its off topic too.
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>>48234233
>Are you Irish?
>Implying the Irish don't like booty
Oi!
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>>48234280
inb4 'he let that happen' or some shit.
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>>48234233
A tiny bit actually.
My lineage is filled with everything white.

I'm also half German, which is extra hilarious because Jewish people ruined my home town through shady illegal practices to save money.
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>>48234294
The joke is that irish have no booty.
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>>48234280
Yeah. Then again, when Al sacrificed his body to get Ed his arm back, Truth was chilling at the Gate with his usual shit eating grin.
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>>48234304
If not having something meant you didn't like it, all anime girls would be boards.
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>>48234286
Booty is an integral part of jumpchain.
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>>48234317
Hitomi Tanaka
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>>48234286
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>>48234294
>>48234301
It's a meme from.. I want to say /lit/? /lit/, /pol/, or one of the other Flag-boards.
Someone with an Irish flag complained a woman with a moderately sized ass had "too much booty". It has been made fun of ever since.

>>48234304
Nope.

>>48234332
I dunno if Hitomi has Booty, Breasts yes, but not sure on the booty.
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What is the greatest temptation you've ever had to resist, /jc/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMhY59n7X-Y
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>>48234286
Hell, /jc/ rhymes with /e/
It's close enough.

You're just mad that your waifu ain't got no booty.
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>>48234286
More butts for the non-believer with a side-order of boobs.
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>>48234286
These fuckers are the worst. Can't they just fuck off to CYOA general or SB? They'd be better appreciated there than in these threads.
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>>48234348
>/lit/
I meant /int/
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>>48234369
The Rinnegan was tempting, but I had to resist the edge.
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>>48234251
There's no way to "tune" it in to my genetic code to make it recognize those eyes as my natural eyes to be regenerated?
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>>48234407
Whoops, meant >>48234246
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So if it's fine to spam porn all of the sudden, can we get the Monsumu jump unbanned and on the drive?
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>>48234407
I think there's a restriction put on kekkei genkai in Naruto that would get in the way of that.
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>>48234407
No. You can't. Fuck off.
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>>48234425
Sorry, I meant DNA fuckery to give yourself them.
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>>48234424
Nope. But you can post monmusu gifs all you fucking want apparently now with no consequences.
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>>48234425
Nah, that restriction keeps you from changing your genetics to grant actual Kekkei Genkai at full efficiency. I don't want to be able to turn people into Uchihas, just to make my regen perks recognize an implanted organ.
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>>48234424
>that
>porn

So how's life in the monastery Friar Dickwaffle?
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>>48234107
Is Truth responsible for actively intervening with attempts at human transmutation, or is it something written into the functionality of FMA Alchemy itself?

If it's the former, then human transmutation should be possible outside of the native setting.
If not, then there's still a dozen superior methods of bringing people back to life, soul intact.
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>>48234424
Wow, now all we need is Scatovore to complete the /jc/ bait collection!
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>>48234456
No one's shitting on Red yet and no one's asked about the JoJo supplement.
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>>48234456
Preeetty sure you're responding to him. You don't have to believe me, but who else is gonna spend all night baiting then get butthurt and whine about porn when nobody bites?
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>>48234455
The former.
It seems to be his berserk button, given how even being forced to do it incurs his wrath.
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>>48234455
Jesus fucking hell kill yourself you slimy Jew bastard, none of us want to hear about your powerwanking so just fuck off because none of us want you here.
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>>48234470
>fuck red, why hasn't she finished the jojo supplement yet?
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>>48234455
Truth is alchemy. You are not allowed to skirt around this fact with your legalese bullshit.
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>>48234470
And no one's bitching about the IRC illuminati.

At best we've got a pair.
More likely, an ace high.
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>>48234455
Why oh why are you responding to that old as fuck bait now?
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>>48234456
>>48234470
Wait, wait, I got this!

Darn that Red for being... awful and... things!!
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>>48234470
Red shits on himself just by existing.
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Where can I get some empath/emotion reading abilities?
I kinda have a super psychologist build going on.
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>>48234455
Either way even if you pay off the equivalent exchange with a philosopher stone such to preform human transmutation, you can't bring back the dead in FMA, unless you already have their soul.
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>>48234498
Here he is
>Old IP
Theory that he's the one baiting with the Truth nonsense above proven.
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>>48234493
>that
>bait
Fuck off SB.
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>>48234498
Oh hey, back to insisting Red's male again, are yo?
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>>48234451
Isn't having a KG the same as being able to use it natively?
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>>48234495
>>48234486
>>48234470
seriously. when will Red realize that he is a direct cause of 90% of the shitstorms here and just fuck off?
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>>48234424
>Monsumu baiting
Dude, just call a namefag or a jump maker a piece of shit and you've handed me /jc/ Bingo.

C'mon man, hook me up.
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>>48234509
>Implying that isn't you samefagging to falseflag in a failed attempt to invalidate your opposition
You can't get out of this.
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>>48234505
Teen Titans has one. Worm has one, iirc. Also check the Adler background for the Holmes jump, it has a really good emotion manipulation capstone, so it probably has some other good emotion stuff in there too.
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>>48234518
Oh hey, back to sucking Red's cock again, are you?
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>>48234523
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>>48234523
>Red
>he

Also,
>Red
>Causing shitstorms
Are you perhaps from a mirror reality or something?
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>>48234533
>>48234546
BINGO MOTHERFUCKERS!
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>>48234523
Holy shit, it's like Beetlegeuse! We mocked him three times and he appeared.
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>>48234548
It's our shitposter, anon. You little lemming.
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>>48234519
Nah. See Kakashi, Kabuto, Danzo, and that wood user who was relevant at the beginning of part two for, like, all of one arc.
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Are you fuckers retarded
It's pretty obviously some asshole copycatting to stir shit in the thread
Not like it was even necessary, you idiots were already shitposting plenty without it
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>>48234575
Pretty sure they all had problems though?
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>>48234553
>Anti-Red is Beetlegeuse
You think if we mock him another three times, he'll leave?
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>>48234591
You wish.
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>>48234589
That's my point. They all gained it from experimentation and their versions were weaker.

>>48234591
Eh, I probably should have said Bloody Mary. I doubt it'll help.
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>>48234591
It'll just power up.
It feeds on attention and shit.
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>>48234589
Their problem was that they were using implanted KG.
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>>48234586
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>>48234548
It's pretty obviously that he's a man the way that he stacks appearance perks and always avatarfags with pictures of generic anime girls.
And he's ALWAYS jumping into discussions and arguments that have absolutely nothing to do with him and acting like he's the center of it, it's fucking disgusting.
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>>48234615
>>48234611
Right, which isn't the same as actually having a KG in your genetics. They have a part of somebody who has a KG in them, they're just trying to tell it what to do without enough badges.
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How strong are the Protodevlin Macross? Apparently they can take on fleets or something, and Red said we could reach that level with centuries of getting good?
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>>48234652
But anon, that analogy doesn't work. If they were using another person's KG, it would grow faster and be stronger because trades get XP boosts.
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>>48234674
Damn, you're right. Well there goes my naruto theories.
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>>48234652
>>48234674
Just compare it to a real transplant. It never works quite as well for you as it did the original person and its use has adverse effects on your health and stamina.
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>>48233475
Likely inspiring a choice or item but likely to be more broad strokes of sandventure
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>>48234211
Well... I hope that you are incorrect. I think it would be nice to have the option to do that since it would help to allow you to build a more interesting item. This is also how it is done in the game itself.
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>>48234712
Good enough for me.
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>>48234451
I scanned the genetics of the Sharingan and then downloaded it into my mind and now I just use genetic manipulation powers to turn my eyes into copies of the edgy eyes when I need them and rewrite them to be normal eyes when I don't.
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Screw it continueing my Jump chain from here...
>>48226579
>>48226666
Super Smash Bros Jump:
CP: 1000
Drawbacks:
Project Minus [+800]
DOES THIS LOOK LIKE THE FACE OF MERCY [+200]
Smash bros Vs All-Stars Vs Namco Classic Vs Capcom: Crisis of infinite franchises (+0)
Memorial Tie in (+0)
Location: Laboratory Complex
Background: 3rd Party Newcomer
Engine: Melee
Weight Class: Middle
Perks:
Fundamentals [Free]
Pandemonium [-100]
Video Game Osmosis [-150]
Unpredictability [-300]
Disjointed Collision [-300]
High Speed Combat [Free]
It's Not a Glitch, It's a Feature [-100]
Speed Demon [-150]
Interchangeable Specials [-100]
Mii Smash [-200]
For Fun or Glory [-300]
Balance [Free]
Final Smash (Custom) [-300]
Taunting [Free]
Jumper Stage Theme [Free]
Gratuitous Cartoon Violence [Free]
SMASH Platforming [Free]
3rd Party DLC [Free]:
Klein (Light Sm4sh) [800]
Perks:
Fundamentals [Free]
Unpredictability [-300]
Disjointed Collision [-300]
Interchangeable Specials [Free]
For Fun or Glory [-150]
Shield Breaker [Free]
Unique Taunt [-50]
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How would /jc/ feel about a Warning Forever gauntlet?
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>>48234586
I feel like the shitposter has advanced to a new level. He's now responding to his own shitposts acting like he's getting offended, to try to rile the thread into responding.
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>>48234761
Nah, he's been false flagging, phone posting, and samefagging for a while
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>>48234757
What is it?
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>>48234757
I'm always up for new jumps, but what exactly is Warning Forever I've never heard of it.
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Alright guys, might as well tear the band-aid off right now.

As an announcement on the Worm jump, while I didn't want to go into in-depth rebalancing and tweaking so people wouldn't have to reconsider builds and potentially portions of their chain around changes to the powers, all the feedback I've gotten has pretty clearly indicated that it needs to be done if the jumps going to be made better than it is. There's been a ton of good points about adjusting things to better represent the setting and the nature of powers.

Power growth is still going to remain, fueled by conflict and experience with the power, so you can in fact reach the same heights. In addition they are still going to be balanced around the idea of being on the same level as top-tier parahumans like Lung, Sundancer, etc.

I'm going to be frank, I didn't want to since people were really attached to the powers as is, but even when I was just going to fix the few problem children powers and clarify the ones that people had a ton of confusion over I still had a great deal of people screaming that I was nerfing everything. Combined with the only actually good feedback I got back pointing to me needing to do this, I've run out of excuses to avoid doing so.

For those of you who are inevitably going to disagree you're free to state your case, but as is I'm convinced it needs to be done to improve the jump. With that being said, I'm not going to engage people who are only yelling. You have my word that I'm going to read every post made in response and consider it's points, but trying to engage everyone has only led to a lot of bait biting on my part.

I apologize if I don't respond to every post made, but it's hard to gauge tone and trying to give people the benefit of the doubt hasn't worked well so far. I've accepted that I'm not going to make everybody happy.

Sorry guys, but I legit can't argue against needing to modify powers anymore. If I'm wrong then please try to tell me why.
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>>48234644
I disagree, you are an asshole, please kill yourself.
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>>48234661
Stronger than a breadbox
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>>48234776
And you know this because you are a janitor who is abusing their power. Don't think people haven't noticed the speed at which some posts are deleted. You're just sitting there with your nice janny badge using it to serve your own interests, and I know. Consider yourself fired, fucker.
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>>48234790
>all the feedback I've gotten
From fucking who? I've never seen anything in the thread.
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>>48234790
Do what you feel needs to be done Worm_Anon. That said I do have one question, any planned changes to Transporter?
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Rolled 199, 17 = 216 (2d595)

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>>48234790
Because there's actually no reason to? If you think you're making the jump better, I ask you to try to reconcile that with how many people like the way it is and actively dislike the idea of your proposed changes.
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>>48234790
Honestly it just sounds like most powers are getting buffed...? Since you're saying they're getting bumped up to the level of Lung and such?

Are you nerfing Reverse Engineering or any of the perks? Because those are important parts of my build. Otherwose, I don't really care.
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>>48234790
Please post an example of your "fixed" Version of one of these "problem children" so we can have an idea of what you mean.

That post without further information is going to do nothing but invite angry shitposting under the assumption of the worst case (mega nerf) scenario.
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>>48234790
Do what you think is best, regardless their will always be an asshole and or assholes that wants to stir shit up.Trust your gut.
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>>48234790
You're being incredibly vague right now, and using a lot of language to imply nothing but bad things.
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>>48234790
>I didn't want to nerf things
>But people were afraid I was so I'm going to nerf things
Do you know what the term 'validation' means? It means you're giving people JUSTIFICATION for how they treated you. You're proving them RIGHT. On top of that, you're making it so that everyone else who wants to update their jumps will get attacked and when anons are asked why, they'll point to you as proof of what they're saying.
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>>48234790
Are you buffing Alexandria Package? Nerfing the one that makes you a discount Glaistig Uaine that I can never remember the name of?
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>>48234832
You're just so fucking adorable.
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>>48234790
>so you can in fact reach the same heights.
Yeah after 50 million years or some other arbitrary nonsense.
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>>48234790
Honestly, if you're doing a major rework of the jump, I feel like it's worth considering a marvel-esque power-builder. It aligns really well with the way triggers occur in Worm.
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>>48234790
Muh Blink! What about Muh Blink!?

That was a, bad, joke
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>>48234790
This just reads like more spite updating. "Anons were mean to me so I'm going to punish them."
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>>48234790
The posts you're referring to, I'm pretty sure his main complaint was the removal of manton limit for powers that started with them. Why are you extrapolating that into a jump-wide nerf?
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>>48234849

Up to the usefulness of people like Lung's power AND noted to be able to grow up to what they were before. This kinda does sound like an over all positive if everything gets to be that good.
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>>48234790
Didn't you say that you were just clarifying powers to prevent certain egregious examples of powerwank and buffing the weaker ones to compete with the others?

If you are just nerfing stuff I'm going to just keep using the old version. As it stands I want to give you the benefit of the doubt but this really sounds like a blanket nerf.
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>>48234915
Not really. He's saying they can grow to be as good as before, what that means is that he's nerfing the powers across the board, making what they can eventually do even more vague, then telling you to wait a thousand years or whatever to get the power how it used to be.
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>>48234884

I mean, Worm character powers didn't seem to take nearly that long? It might even work out to our advantage since Worm likes to try and keep things open for wiggle room, like how just going there means we aren't subject to people like Contessa's predictions.
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>>48234943
>What is hyperbole
I don't want to talk to you. I want him to explain himself first.
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>>48234518
Well of coarse, there are no women on the internet. Though I do suspect some of the posters on this board are Orangutans that somehow stole someone's laptop.
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>>48234943
Don't even bother. It's obviously the same posters that were shitting their diapers about the their powers getting "Nerfed" taking what Worm's saying way out of contenxt to try and stop the update. Don't even bother with them.
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>>48234790
People are really attached to these powers for some reason, even though as they are now they really aren't indicative of the setting.
If you REALLY wanted it to be "setting friendly" you'd trash all the powers right now and replace it with a custom power tied to a trigger event but WOAH BOY would that not fly over well. Not even counting that no Jumper over 10 jumps is going to ever reach the amount of stress to trigger.

Keep in mind Wildbow plays to the fact that the powers are basically never a benefit for their hosts, natural triggers are held back by the powers constantly relating to their trigger event and Cauldron triggers get changed physically 90% of the time. Powers in jump are a straight buff when in Worm they're horrible to have. They skew your thought patterns, if they don't like you they'll actively try to kill you, they force you to fight even if you don't want to. You become a puppet in Scion's game, basically.

Have you read any of Wildbow's Weaver Dice campaign? It gives a good insight on how parahumans other than Skitter deal with their powers.
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>>48234790
Worm you're too nice to be worrying about what he internet hate machine is going to react so change. Just finish up the jump the way you want it to be, and don't worry about the neighsayers.

Keep up the good work Worm, hope to see it soon!
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>>48234833
The last thread I posted in where I asked for critique on the jump and whatnot had several people making points about the powers needing to better represent the setting, and against the blanket removal of the Manton limit post-jump. It quickly spiralled into a lot of salt but it was there.

Plus I have a massive document of notes and statements that tons of people have made ever since the jump was released, notes I made based on observations people have made, etc.

There's a lot of points to the powers having not been handled as well as they should. It's usually less a direct nerf and more tweaking certain aspects of the power, and as I said before, clarifying.

Changer is the biggest problem child and the entire section is basically the poster child of the issue. Vague and open ended powers that leave a whole lot of slack. Imaginary form is being turned into basically Genesis's power for example, and Quantum Evolution at least losing teh bit where it preemptively evolves before things happen.

>>48234849
Only change to the perks was making it so Best in the Business didn't turn millions of employees into super-competent Batmen. It's most pronounced on those you directly oversee and work with, and has a lesser effect on the rest of the organization based on proximity. Spanners getting a bit of a tweak but other than that perks are the same, RE is also left alone capability wise but I need to give it a better description.

>>48234870
>>48234874
Honestly anon, this is because I promised to give people a heads up. To keep the thread in the loop. I can only ask people wait to see the update before they assume I just crippled everything. And frankly we can't have people afraid to post here just because people are going to scream.

>>48234895
>>48234908
Not doing this out of spite, and the nerfs aren't giant things.

(continued)
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>>48234832
Now THIS is shitposting
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>>48234963
Custom power sections are always incredibly boring and generic because of their very nature of having to be a set of lego blocks instead of custom carved, fluffed out, and explained powers. I really dislike them.
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>>48234977
You're basic a massive change people don't like one what one guy said to you during a shitstorm and you're taking complaints about vagueness as justification for a reduction in power and usefulness Do you not see the problem with that? You're starving a cold. This is the wrong solution.
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>>48234790
Finish what you want to do and post it, giving such vague information does nothing but make people assume blanket nerfs because most anons here are pessimists.
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>>48234983
Not the anon, but those would lead into even MORE questions about whether "Is X power fair?" and Worm_Anon wants to avoid misinterpretation, if anything he just wants people to legitimately understand the powers their buying and don't need to go "can X do Y?"
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>>48234977
>we can't have people afraid to post here just because people are going to scream.
You're missing my point. My point is that you're giving people good reason to scream. When you're stomping on things they like and invalidating their builds months or years later they're going to rightfully fear updates. And they're not going to trust jumpmakers with updates because people like you already betrayed their trust.
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>>48234928

I don't understand that logic at all. Worm's never been a person to put arbitrary limits on stuff, and how does them needing to wait to get to the exact same thing as they were before make the upper end more vague? They could grow before too, and we actually know what some of the progression could look like now compared to before which would clear things up on what their potential is like.

Now instead of just having B and not knowing where to go from there, we start with A and can compare A and B and think about what C or D would look like in the future by seeing how A turned into B.
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>>48235039
>I don't understand that logic at all
Jesus Christ. Did you not see in his post how he said they'd grow to how they were before? Do I need to quote it? You're acting like I'm extrapolating something fucking arcane here and it's annoyingly frustrating. Like you don't read.
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>>48234977
>The last thread I posted in where I asked for critique on the jump and whatnot had several people making points about the powers needing to better represent the setting, and against the blanket removal of the Manton limit post-jump. It quickly spiraled into a lot of salt but it was there.

Only one person supported the Manton Limit. Everyone else was saying that they thought it was a bad idea and came out against it, even when they were saying they might accept a nerf.

Most people don't care about how the powers compare to other powers in the setting, because we don't necessarily want the canon shards or whatever.

It doesn't matter how 'representative' it is as long as they scale to the typical power level of the setting, considering how varied the powers are in setting anyway.

I'm astonished that you think this is acceptable at this point, and have at this point, finally lost all faith in you. All I can do is ask that you see reason and reconsider.
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>>48235039
>>48235055
Hell, YOU'RE the one tearing assumptions out of your ass in thinking they'll grow stronger than before when he said zilch about that.
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>>48234977
See, that's unbalancing the jump. I was tempted to take both Quantum Evolution and Imaginary Form before, but now I definitely never will.
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>>48235073
>Only one person supported the Manton Limit
I feel like most people don't understand how the manton limit works. It's just "does your power work on only organics/inorganics? If so, it's manton limited"
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>>48234757
I think a gauntlet would be the only way it could work. The jump would be over in less than a day.
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So, who knows about BLAME Jump?
The Net Terminal Genes, how much authority do they give in jump? Can I walk up to a Safeguard and order then to stop being genocidal maniacs and be my bodyguard?

Am I in charge of the Gov't Authority Now? Can I use this anywhere, or am I screwed if the people I a nominally have authority over can only be commanded from a specific place?

The Recompilation (Builder) program, does it give me Net Genes? It says "May Open Up the Net Sphere to you" but anyone can do that already, it's just the safeguard try to kill you without authorization.

Out of jump, the Net Terminal genes still work on tech and virtual systems, right?

Can/Do the Safeguard access the Net Sphere, it seems they are part of it?

What is so bad about the Builders making the Mega Structure bigger? That is happening way out on the edge of the Dyson Sphere, right?
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>>48234919
That is again, ninety percent of whats going down. And honestly most of these is just things like not letting Gravity Manipulation make their modifications permanent, since that's a little crazy. Devil in the details.

>>48234963
Problem is that custom power builders kind of.....they don't have much character. It's not perfect but it's the best way to handle getting Jumpers to play with Worms toys while retaining the character of it all.

>>48235011
Again, this isn't because people threw a fit anon. This is because all the good arguments point to it being needed.

>>48235016
Yeah, I'm aware. I promised I'd keep the thread in the loop though, and just dropping it with changes already made with no warning would result in an explosion that it happened with no warning. Sadly I just....gotta keep my word and hope for the best.

>>48235038
And us jumpmakers have to trust that we can talk to the thread and get feedback, and not just a lot of salt. It's a two-way street, and I'm doing what I think is best long term, even if it's not the best choice shortterm.

And to clarify, they are still going to be GREAT, it's just a few powers are basically "Canon power X but with Y additional advantages" and others are a bit too open ended to really feel like Worm powers.

Remember, Lung, Sundancer, Ballistic, Narwhal, Dragon, Purity, these are the canon capes I'm using as a benchmark. You are NOT being made weak. I fucked up how I handled some of the powers when I first did the jump, and if I'm going to add new ones I need to fix that.

>>48235087
It's still Crawler without the downsides anon, and if you can't see the issues with Imaginary form than we'll just have to agree to disagree. Sorry anon.
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>>48234983
>set of lego blocks
???

Powers in Worm are supposed to be unique, what we have now is 'you get a copy of X's shard' while in universe, well, take Taylor for an example. A lonely, sort of weird girl who feels like her life is out of her control gets shoved in a locker full of used tampons or whatever. Her power:
>ensures she's never alone again (in a sense)
>gives her complete control over something for the first time in her life

It's easy related to her trigger. Imp triggered from being abused and now has to consciously allow herself to be noticed, Grue triggered from wanting to protect Imp and got the ability to create an area where he can hide her perfectly.
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>>48235114
>good arguments
One guy everyone else was shitting on.
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>>48235108
It could potentially last longer with some jumpers given luck.
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>>48235114
>This is because all the good arguments point to it being needed.
There were better arguments as to why you shouldn't do that though.
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>>48235120
>It's easy related to her trigger. Imp triggered from being abused and now has to consciously allow herself to be noticed, Grue triggered from wanting to protect Imp and got the ability to create an area where he can hide her perfectly.
Imp triggered when a group of guys attacked her and her father (think stereotypical alleyway mugging).

Brian lied about his trigger.
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>>48235114
>Crawler without the downsides
Really? Isn't it weaker than him now?
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>>48235114
I don't care what justification you're throwing out. They basically amount to 'you ordered a stack but this limp hamburger patty still tastes good!'

No, what I'm telling you is that you have basically spit in people's eyes with this. So they're going to fear updates. You've done nothing GOOD. What compensation do they get for what you did to them? Every time people say they hate updates it's because they're afraid things they like will be removed or weakened for some arbitrary reason, and defense updates relies on that NOT happening. Well, you're making it happen, and now all of us in the future are going to have to suffer from your actions when people attack jumpmakers for wanting to do an update because they'll fear what YOU'VE done. And that fear will be justified because of you.
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>>48235114
I see you still refuse to talk to anyone desperately asking you WHAT exactly you're nerfing and HOW exactly you're nerfing them. That's what people want to know.
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>>48235055

I saw the post, you're overreacting and interpreting things to be as angry as possible, like you are now. He said they would be able to grow, not that it would take hundreds of Jumps to get back to normal. He said he was adjusting things and that they could get to what they were before with the growth, and you for some reason think that makes the way they grow even more vague.
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>>48235120
A custom power section will just be a limited set of blocks you can build a limited set of things out of, all of them more generic by their nature of being made of building blocks instead of out of one piece, and the variety will cripple any ability to fluff them or make them interesting or explain how it works.

Nobody cares that they're unique IN UNIVERSE. The caveats of jumpmaker mean that it's better to have pre-made ones.
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>>48235114
I think, at this point, the best way to convince the thread may be to point out some of the "ninety percent" that are buffs or clarifications rather than nerfs.
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>>48235164
Anon, lets calm down and have some hope, this won't help things. Lets save it till we actually see the update, because saying all this without it in front of us to prove it is in bad taste.
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>>48235185
>not that it would take hundreds of Jumps to get back to normal
I told you that was hypebole and I didn't want to talk to you.
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>>48235158
Crawler can't get rid of his mutations. You can always go back to base.
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>>48235202
Trying to reason with him is the ONLY way to help things. I don't believe in blind hope and I don't believe in just letting things happen to me. He came here to talk about this, so I'm talking.
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>>48235202
>Anon, lets calm down and have some hope, this won't help things.
Every time Worm posts, I lose a little bit of the hope that I had at the beginning. It's gotten to the point where the only way for me to maintain faith is if Worm anon just stops talking about it.
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>>48235215
But will you be able to regrow the mutations at-will?

Also, I meant Crawler's power is over all stronger in that it can adapt better?
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>>48235164
Wow, you're certainly upset about being 'nerfed' in your imagination game. Why not, y'know, ignore the update if you're freaking out about it? Afraid the good people of /jc/ are going to judge you?
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>>48235202
I could be calm if Worm didn't keep giving us reasons not to be.
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>>48235114
>Worm_Anon
Mah tsundere waifu.
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>>48235114
Not realy relavent to the discussion at hand but, while you're here and discussing powers getting changed, I want to ask if you had any thoughts on whether Enhanced Mastery should be a Thinker power instead of a Trump power.
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Are there any good ways for maintaining constant communication with your companions from a separate plane?
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>>48235242
>pic

What on Earth am I looking at?
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>>48235242
Blatant trolling like this is so common at this point that nobody's going to fall for it.
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>>48235242
I'm trying to reason with people and you're just being insulting. Also bringing up a fallacy, one I think we should name since it comes up here a lot, where you say that people who don't like a change can ignore it while knowing full well that they actually can't because the thread is hard up on only the final version counting.
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>>48235259
Handsome Dexter.
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What's your weapon, /jc/?
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>>48234878
Missed this, Alexandria Package is already really good, at most I need to try and get across what the Manton-limit enforcement does better, I've had a lot of questions about what would qualify.

Thanatos is just getting clarified because I've been asked a gazillion times about it and that's a big sign that it needs it.

>>48235179
Quantum Evolution losing it's preemptive adaptation, since it's Crawler 2.0 and the regen and adaptation is already top-tier, prettied up description.

Imaginary form becoming a Genesis-alike power.

Inorganic Avatar I'm considering if I should make it a Hookwolf alike but it might remain the same and just get prettied up, maybe reduce the size limit a little. You're twice as tall as Leviathan currently, but that might be alright. Not sure yet.

Gravity Manipulation not being able to do permanent alterations, effects will last a few hours or so.

Orbital lock I need to seriously reconsider it 's max size, a large building is pretty damn big and it might have been too over the top. I need to reread the sections with that cape to see if I was in the right ballpark.

>>48235230
Honestly, you're probably right. I'm kind of just trying to talk to the thread since I promised originally that I'd keep them in the loop on a regular basis and know what the current plan was. Might be best to just push the update out.

>>48235251
S-silence Baka!

>>48235253
If I stop having trouble with Trump power ideas then yeah, I'll probably kick it over.

Mmmmm, sorry guys. Guess in retrospect this isn't really helping.
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>>48235278
>Try to reason with you on why your actions are going to hurt other jumpmakers instead of yelling at you
>You just snub me
Christ.
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>>48235224
>>48235230
>>48235245
As a Jumper who's worm jump had an extrememly critical prt in my chain as a whole, I get it. But this is Magical Realm, being worried over shit like an update should'nt be a thing. If you want to be stronk, no one's stopping you, these are fucking chained CYOA's for a reason.
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>>48235240
I think you can regrow them at will. The power is based off of it, but without turning into a Chaos Spawn.

Crawler is probably more powerful, but he's had years of conflict to feed his shard's growth. However seeing you're the Jumper I'm sure your abilities will outstrip his in no time.

CAPTCHA, OJ & Capopechino aren't milkshakes.
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>>48235278
>Quantum Evolution and everything after that part
And are these the ONLY nerfs you're planning?
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>>48235273
Technically speaking, I have recently obtained proficiency in axes.
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>>48235114
>That is again, ninety percent of whats going down. And honestly most of these is just things like not letting Gravity Manipulation make their modifications permanent, since that's a little crazy.
Not really. What Gray boy did lasted a long time. What Bakuda does could be long term permanent if she made a gravity bomb also.

You would be saying the one trick power (gravity versus all her exotic effect bombs) would be worse in its specialty.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but people in the thread are entitled newfags. They will expect everyone that has used your jump in the last nine months to re-write their entitles jump.

Please make sure your original jump is kept on the drive, and say jumpers have the choice of which one to use. The complainers will still whine, but this gives you something to say to shut them up.
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>>48235278
Honestly?

I vote just don't update it. You aren't going to be happy, thread's never going to be happy.
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>>48235278
>Might be best to just push the update out.
You know that if people read patch notes and just see a stream of nerfs they're going to lynch you like SMT. Sudden change meets MORE resistance.

>>48235302
Anon, it doesn't matter how you think things SHOULD be. That's not how they are. Face reality.
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>>48235273
My fists.

Reality itself.
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WOOOOOOO! Perks are all complete (for now).
I'll add in some items, clarification, and hopefully more drawbacks before I post it next.

But for now, as always, tell me what you all think /JC/
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>>48235273
A glib tongue, foresight, and a faster mind.

>>48235278
But will we get the tsundere worm anon plush item in the update?
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>>48235336
Miiiight be a bad time for this...
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>>48235336
WOOOOOOOOOOO!

I'll get back to you soon.
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>>48235278
Could taking Quantum Evolution and case 53 make your mutation basically the downsides to crawlers power? If so would that be a 100, 200, or 300 point mutation.
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>>48235357
Heresy. All the time is bad time in world of darkness!
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>>48235106
>I feel like most people don't understand how the manton limit works. It's just "does your power work on only organics/inorganics? If so, it's manton limited"
No. Panacea's inability to use her powers on herself is also stated to be a Manton Limit.
Also that Othala can only buff others
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>>48235333
Tell me anon, how ARE things then. Your here quivering in your boots because of an update that threatens how strong you are with one fucking power? That in that one jump you might be weaker, compared to the 500+ jumps you have to increase your power makes you so scared and hopeless? Jesus Christ.Face Reality
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>>48235278
All the nerfs are going to powers I initially dismissed as trash. . .
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>>48235278
Oh, what the hell? Update it. With all those other powers you're adding, you need to clarify ans balance as much as you can to avoid some headaches in the future.
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>>48235278
Are you imposing the Manton Limit though? If not, I'm mostly cool with it, and if not, it's time to take out the pitchforks.
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>>48235390
You were being criticized for your stance on old builds, not on whatever you're going on about now. Don't change the subject.
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>>48235278
>Alexandria Package is already really good
Aww. I was hoping you might finally be the jumpmaker to break the 25 ton standard for stronk perks.
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>>48235273
https://youtu.be/7GFUQFQ4gJU

GOLDEN RIDE!

Also a guitar that melts people's faces off as I play music while plowing through things going 100 million mph. Quickly followed by my harem who's also doing the same thing.
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>>48235278
Was Imaginary form the Loony Toons power?
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>>48235278
Why are you nerfing the already shitty shards?
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>>48235402
My power doesn't have a Manton Limit and I'm scared to fuck he's going to add one now and make it useless.
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>>48235422
That was Soft Physics.
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>>48235273
I've come up with God's Revolver, >>48066030.
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>>48235330
>You know that thing you were hinting at for forever now?
>Don't do it.
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>>48235429
Oh good, then Azula doesn't lose her power.
Because Azula rolled for Soft Physics, and the idea is hilarious to me.
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>>48235425
He's probably nerfing everything,or changing all the shards to just be canon shards

I'm so dissapointed
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>>48235413
I wasn't actually, I was told that despite me believing that this fear for updates shouldn't be a thing, that I gotta "Face reality" that people are scared of their game of pretend getting "nerfed" the subject never changed anon.
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>>48235296
Sorry anon, kind of tired and groggy and it's easy to miss posts. Not my intention. I get it, I just kind of felt like I should say something ahead of time.

>>48235312
Warp Spasm tweaked a bit to better reflect Lung, modifying the mental effects of it a bit.

Soft Physics given some actual benchmarks and made to sound like a Worm power and not so outside context.

Energy Well clarified so people know that the top end description of what you can manage isn't something you can just spam, but otherwise it's fine.

Boogie Manimal needs a better name.

Transporter I'm not sure if I should retain the ability to use it for perfect accuracy or not, I'm waffling back and forth on that.

>>48235339
No, but a 50cp Friendbringer option to get a tiny chiby endbringer-alike pet that is completely useless for anything but being adorable as a joke item is on my list. It sounds funny and I'm torn on it being too silly or throwing it in there.

>>48235365
I'd say go for it, and the level would depend on how much of it you can revert. How monstrous your base human form is.

>>48235402
For most, probably. The Manton-limit isn't just the "Can't burn you from the inside" bit, and flat out removing it seems to cause a lot of wonkiness.

>>48235415
I get you anon, but I honestly am just not sure if I should. I'll consider it though.

>>48235425
People really don't pay attention to how crazy some of that stuff is anon.
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>>48235422
I'm still confused at how little people talk about the power that gives you full goddamn toonforce.
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>>48235443
>You know that thing you were doing that everybody's bitching like a she-cat in heat about?
>Yeah, might be best to just drop it.
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>>48235453
Your original argument seems to have been 'just keep your old build'. That's what people were arguing against, your perceptions there.
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>>48235446
That sounds like a hilarious combo, does she wear the green mask?
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>>48235326

I mean, Gray Boy was also kinda like one of the boogeyman Parahumans, with him dying being a REALLY HUGE DEAL so the comparison doesn't seem fair.
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>>48235422
Imaginary form was the power to become a mini Endbringer. You have a core as your only true form, and everything else is just superficial. So you can get your arms blown off, only to reattach them, grow a second pair, and declare yourself Mecha Shiva.
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>>48235459
>Warp Spasm tweaked a bit to better reflect Lung, modifying the mental effects of it a bit.
This sounds like you're making it more generic and a copy of Lung. Doesn't sound fun.

Regardless, you need to keep listing nerfs. Your best bet at this point is to make a pastebin of EVERY SINGLE nerf you're going to make, that's the only way to disarm suspicion.
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To the anons wondering what Warning Forever is, here's gameplay footage.
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>>48235488
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>>48235459
>For most, probably
A whole lot of powers just got made useless, including mine.
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>>48235467
I was essentially saying do what the fuck you want to do since it's your Chain, not someones elses. These are "Create You Own Adventures" for a reason.
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>>48235488
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpDan-BpqJM
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>>48235459
Benchmarks and sounding more like a Worm power, that's fair. But is it still Loony Toons?

>>48235463
I don't particularly care about it's upper tier abilities. Just the combo of the power, and who owns it, is hilarious.

>>48235475
Sadly no, she wore a Red kabuki mask. The Red Spirit. I'm sure you can guess why.
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>>48235497
>useless

This word gets used so often in here for things that it doesn't apply to that it's lost all meaning to me.

So what makes it "useless" again?
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>>48235459
>I get you anon, but I honestly am just not sure if I should. I'll consider it though.
It's fine. I'd love it if you did, but you gotta do what you gotta do.
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>>48235484
At that point I might as well just wait to drop the update anon. And honestly I think that's best at this point. People are right this isn't really helping things.

Mmm, sorry guys. My fuck up.

>>48235497
Then by all means, please actually list which ones are apparently made useless. Otherwise there is nothing I can tell you, and you've given me nothing of substance to work with.
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>>48235505
And that isn't accepted by the community, people are here because they innately want to be involved in a community and not do whatever they want in private. So, that argument holds no weight.
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>>48235459
>spoiler
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>>48235459
>For most, probably
All hope, all faith, dashed.
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>>48235511
>who owns it
Wait, is there a canon user?
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>>48235523
>At that point I might as well just wait to drop the update anon.
See >>48235333
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>>48235509
We could always use more BULLET HELL, yes.
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>>48235273
The Lance of Longinus.
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>>48235535
And it's for that reason that I suggest >>48235330

Nothing good will come of this.
Nothing ever does here.
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>>48235531
Why?
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>>48235459
>Spoiler
I bet if that would scare the holy hell out of some people.
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>>48235523
>actually list which ones are apparently made useless
>Implying I'm going to trust you not to give my power a special nerfing just to spite me after today
Hell no. You betrayed everyone's hope and trust today by announcing a jump-wide nerf and you expect me to ever put my faith in you?
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>>48235511
Awww, but at least kept it. . . right? It would be a sad thing to learn that such a potentially wonderful Big Head Killer didn't even have the classic green mask.
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>>48235459
>Spoiler
WANT!
Can I import my Mabari to give it an alt-form?

>>48235532
Read the chain, Azula rolled it.
Azula with Loony Toons Physics. It's hilarious.
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>>48235551
Because putting a manton limit on powers without them makes it hideously weak and for ones that retain them it hard caps their ability and power at a very low point.
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>>48235558
Ah, so you're just whining.
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>>48235459
>For most, probably. The Manton-limit isn't just the "Can't burn you from the inside" bit, and flat out removing it seems to cause a lot of wonkiness.
Wow, you actually did the worst possible thing you could have done to your jump. This has killed any trust I had that you actually gave a shit.
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>>48235524
So if thats the case,I can respect them complaining about unnecessary changes. But to actually fear updates, which affect singular jumps, when theres 500+ out there to minmax with is odd. And to stop an arguement from happening I will respect your opinion, and I'd like to hope you can respect mine.
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>>48235459
Man, your spoiler there makes me question one thing, that thing being what it would take to make something like that and sell them in the jump.
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>>48235558
I seriously don't get why you're taking this so personally.

Why does anyone take this so personally?

None of it changes the fact that we're all just a bunch of fantasizing neckbeards who will never actually get to do any of this.

So why?
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>>48235567
Whoops. That is pretty goddamn hilarious.
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>>48235570
If you want to call it that. Saying he's going to nerf my power might be whining sure, but it's justified whining that has evidence backing it.
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>>48235550
NO, FUCK YOU. WE DESERVE AN UPDATE.

Just not this one.
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>>48235569
>weak

Compared to... the other things that are the same strength?

And what's wrong with hard-caps anyway? Nobody complains that Pokemon stop leveling after Level 100.
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>>48235581
Because it literally is personal.
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>>48235588
Obvious bait is obvious anon.
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>>48235459
I sure wish I could complain and bitch and all the jumpmakers would listen to me. That one guy seems to have really fucking charmed you. What's his secret I wonder? Getting you at a vulnerable time?
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>>48235588
Describe /jc/ in the sentences.
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>>48235596
The powers that didn't have them before need to not have it to actually stand up to the other ones, anon.
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>>48235598
How?

You're anonymous. Nobody even knows who you are. They couldn't have a grudge against you specifically if they wanted to, because they have no way of singling you out.
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>>48235459
Friendbringer.... who I'll be tempted to spend even more CP on... crap I'm doomed to never become as awesome as the uber-Jumpers. Eh, forget it I don't care.

These look good to me, Worm.

>>48235532

Circus, I think.

>>48235556
Nah, they'll just think you're a Cape with serious bad taste.

>>48235604
Sometimes we're better sometimes not.
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>>48235581
>I am crippling the fantasy you were having, retconning it out of existence and telling you that you can't have it
This is basically what these kind of nerfs do.
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>>48235628
>Sometimes we're better sometimes not.

Most of the time? Not.
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>>48235459
>Manton Limit
Stopped reading. This update is SMT shitstorm levels of terrible at this point. Don't bother, it's going to be rejected if you try to pass it to the thread in a shitstorm you will never recover from, and as little good will as I have left for you at this point, I'd rather not see you driven off.
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>>48235523
Did you seriously decided to skip out when people were still talking to you? The last time you were getting screamed at and you stuck throughout it all, this time people are discussing it and you leave them high and dry.
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>>48235648
>I'd rather not see you driven off.

Liar.
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>>48235628
Gaunlet, you buy 6 Frindbringers, to get the whole set, shown in canon anyway.
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>>48235459
>Friendbringer
There are supposedly 20 different Endbringers, yes?
I'll have one of each.
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>>48235523
Make whatever Update seems best Worm_Anon. I have already gotten clarification on the powers I care about in the past, unless those rulings change I have no issues with any update you make.
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Hey worm-friend.

I know this is a total shit-show, but I for one am looking forward to this update quite a bit.

Keep up the good work.
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>>48235648
This update is legitimately going to ruin updates more than the SMT update did in all of jumpchain.
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>>48235669
20 entirely, 5 or 6 shown in canon, depending on if you count Tohu and Bohu as different Endbringers.
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>>48235677
>>48235689
I don't get these kind of empty platitudes. You don't actually have anything to say about the issue, it's like you want to drown out and invalidate anyone that might have concerns. It's pretty spiteful and vindictive.
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>>48235477
But Bakuda was not the boogeyman, and made many different exotic effect bombs that lasted to long they needed to wall them off.

there in not really a difference in Worm between the true capabilities of powers hard coded into shards and the same effect emulated with Tinker tech. Look at Scions Stilling power, and Hero's Wavelength Specialty. That is why his death was seen as such a waste.

If an effect can be made long lasting with Tinker tech, a higher end power of the same specialty should be able to do long term environmental changes as well.
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As someone who knows nothing about Worm, what even is a Manton Limit?
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>>48235718
It means your power can't effect other people directly.
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>>48235357
It's never a bad time for updates.
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>>48235726
Is that all?
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>>48235596
My shard was Corrosive Contact.

If he enforces the manton limit on that power it will literally do nothing because it relies on directly affecting other parahumans to hurt them
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>>48235666
I would. Then I'd spend most of my CP trying to get them 'back to fighting shape'. It's my curse. Klein is an equal to me in swordsmanship and has some out of context abilities that still make our fights fun and enjoyable. That and the fucker figured out that the Arena could shift all of my abilities over to him in a What If? That shit hurts so bad but I have experience being totally played with by someone my level as mere perk-less mortal.
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>>48235278
Are you buffing anything or is it just nerfs?
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>>48235712
I'm just doing my part to counteract those who are just screaming and throwing shit just to be assholes. Genuine concerns and criticisms are fine, but even the most simple discussions here tend to degenerate rather quickly.
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>>48235660

Talking as in half the people here taking it as betrayal, telling him to drop the update and stop talking because he was ruining everything either for them, himself or other jumpmakers? He wasn't really accomplishing much and this wasn't much of a discussion.
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>>48235736
I think it also has the effect of making it so tinkers can't mass produce things, that some shards can't effect yourself, just look it up on the worm wiki
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>>48235718
Can only affect inorganic matter/Can only affect Organic Matter and Can only affect yourself/can only affect other things. Choose one from each category.
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>>48235762
Where is the screaming?
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>>48235718
The Manton Limit refers to two tendencies among powers: that they either affect living beings or inanimate objects, and that powers can either affect a person directly or indirectly.

A telekinetic might be able to create walls of force to throw around people, but they could not make a smoothie out of a person's brain, as an example. Or they could assemble and disassemble objects using raw materials freely, but not so much as slightly push a human being.
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>>48235764
Negative points are still points. People were making valid arguments. Not a lot of plain insults this time.
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>>48235762
Every criticism presented, even the shit flinging at this point, looks way more valid and justified than any amount of positive or wishful thinking.
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>>48235773
>>48235769
Oh, okay.

This is probably a bigger deal than I'm seeing, but I'm used to 3.X magic that only affects certain creature types, or only works on intact corpses or other things like that.

Would that prevent Ballistic Transmission from bouncing the thing I'm firing off a rock and causing the rock to drop on someone? I'm guessing not, but still.
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>>48235778
There is also the can make brain smoothie but can't make walls of force alternative.
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>>48235336
For Unstoppable Killing Machine 'minimal damage' is a pretty big understatement. More like 'vastly reduced' damaged, given that only one box of damage is taken for each attack, no matter the severity.
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>>48235749
Well, take a different shard then. Or just deal with the fact that you can't use it directly. No need to bitch about it. The power isn't really useless, you're really just crying because you have to take a nerf on the nose when your shard is already pretty strong otherwise, just be creative.
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>>48235648
You know what, I'll admit maybe it's not the best idea. I'll reconsider. Mainly it was the argument that maybe it's best to remain true to the setting, but there is still the point that most powers from places don't have that sort of restriction. Teleportation from Raildex for example can telefrag people in canon.

>>48235660
Or maybe we can not jump to conclusions. That'd be nice too anon.

>>48235709
We'll see anon.

>>48235689
Glad to hear, hope it lives up to your expectations.

>>48235669
Six seen in canon, supposedly twenty overall.

>>48235749
There is a major difference between adding it where it wasn't before, and just removing it across the board even for powers that DON'T MAKE SENSE to work that way.

>>48235759
Honestly considering buffing Decoy a bit maybe. And several new power ideas are getting buffed a bit from where I was considering them.

Like I said, majority of these are just tweaking and rebalancing, people are assuming I'm cutting powers in half or something.

Sorry for the slow rate of reply guys, it's late and it's hard keeping up with everything.
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>>48235818
>Well, take a different shard then
How in the fuck is this supposed to defeat the point that it wouldn't DO anything? You're just saying you can pick something else if you have a literally useless power. The problem of the power being useless is still there.

>Shard is strong
It sucks. Nobody picks it. And the thing is, that the only thing that makes it DECENT would be completely lost. It wouldn't have any actual uses anymore.
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>>48235790
I absolutely agree. Sometimes things just have to be said, and even though you might not like the tone in which it's said, wishful thinking doesn't make it less true.
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>>48235523
>At that point I might as well just wait to drop the update anon. And honestly I think that's best at this point. People are right this isn't really helping things.
I was REALLY looking to double the number of powers. And still do.

But it sounds like you are trying to change existing powers that still worked with the existing framework.

But now you are trying to change them into closer clones of canon powers. But that actually makes them LESS fitting for Worm. Similar but distinct powers are a think in worm. But identical/near identical ones are rather.rare.

Your existing powers work as is. If you have notes of questions people have asked, integrating those answers is ok, but try to err on the side of awesome. But trying to make Warp Spasm even more overtly Lungs power is not all that awesome. It can be different. It should be different.

Please don't give up. Go forth, and be Excellent!
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>>48235817
That may be the case, but I think i'll leave the wording as is in order to keep up the illusion of balance, ya know?
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I know this probably isn't going to happen, but it would be neat if the Worm powers could be split based on the Manton effect. E.g. the Panacea power could either affect others or you, but not both.
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>>48235827
We worry because we can only trust you, and anons are like deer; we startle easily.
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>>48235726
>>48235736

IIRC there are exceptions to the rule though? Panacea's biokinesis effects people, and tons of different Masters directly control or fuck with people.

>>48235749

Yours might end up being one of the exceptions to the rule.
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>>48235827
>Like I said, majority of these are just tweaking and rebalancing
This is a vague term. Literally anything can be framed as a 'tweak and rebalancing'.
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>>48235827
Please don't use this as a reason to nerf Assimilation but could I sprout GBEs from all over my body if I absorbed one?
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>>48235848
That'd incredibly stupid.
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>>48235827
>There is a major difference between adding it where it wasn't before
But as far as we know this is what you're doing.
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>>48235818
But then you have to give something else up to compensate for the inane luck-based discounts.
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>>48235827
You told us at the start you were making powers weaker than before so they would 'grow into' how they were in the old version. Have you addressed that statement yet?
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>>48235843
>>48235850
Yeah, all good points. Well fuck me I'm sorry guys. I promised back when all this started that I'd keep you guys in the loop and I didn't want to have people explode and feel like I went behind their backs.

I'll just try and make sure this is as good as possible and get a WIP written up to show you guys, so we actually have something of substance to talk about.

I'm really not helping anything here.

>>48235879
If you absorbed and managed to "digest" it then yes, though it might take some practice depending on what kind of tech the powers been working with so far.

Anyway, I think I need to go to bed. I'll be on a bit longer (bout half an hour or so) for any questions but it's hard keeping my eyes open.
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>>48235827
I just don't understand why you're nerfing anything. The thread was overwhelmingly hyped when you were just talking about adding backgrounds and such. What's with the nerfs? Are the new powers you came up with just weak in comparison?
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>>48235917
see >>48235911
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>>48235827
This may be a bad time to ask, but does RE only work on mechanical technology? Would it work on recreating a specific AI or some type of scifi bioscience?
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>>48235827
It's all cool Worm.

>>48235879
Wouldn't you only be able to grow the single one? Unless your body has all the parts for creating multiple GBE's.

>>48235917
Oh cool. Nevermind.
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>>48235928
Because some of us buildfags used his powers in ways he didn't anticipate.
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>>48235950
>Wouldn't you only be able to grow the single one? Unless your body has all the parts for creating multiple GBE's.

The power at one point stated that all materials required would be provided by the power itself.
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>>48235911
Probably a bad idea as people have pointed out. Definitely reconsidering.

>>48235935
Yes to both examples. Artificial intelligence, bio-science, it's most "natural" when applied to Mechanical and hardware stuff due to it being sort of naturally primed that way at the start, but you can expand to biological stuff as well.
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When is a thread archived?
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>>48235950
I am to understand that Assimilation eats and then replicates tech rather than storing it.
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>>48235977
After falling off page 11
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>>48235981
Das right, bitch.
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>>48235870
See >>48235778
Her Manton Limit is being unable to mod herself.
She can manipulate any other organic life, even microbes inside her own body, but she can't directly manipulate her own flesh.
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>>48235961
Neato, thanks.
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>>48235981
>>48235960
Yeah that's why I chose to say never mind when Worm came forward.
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>>48236008

Aaaaah, got it, cool.
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Speaking of Worm, does anyone know how the bomb Tinker was able to make a high tech explosive out of household stuff using her teeth?

Or how Defiant is able to build tech that involves things far too small for him to be able to put together even if he can design it?

Are Tinkers like Girl Genius Sparks in this way, ignoring whatever pesky laws of physics happen to be in their way at the time?
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>>48236060
Space-whale magic, anon, with "muh science' flavoring.
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>>48236060
Their shards are constantly scanning the materials and environment and basically guiding them to "fine tune" things to an insane degree, with access to knowledge about laws and designs that we can't imagine or understand yet. (Canon answer)

Or maybe Wildbow isn't an engineer and is just writing a story where some people have super-science as a power to handwave it away.

Take your pick.
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>>48236060

Some of them do actually ignore some laws of physics if I remember correctly. Non-Tinkers tend to be unable to figure out how Tinker-Tech works no matter how much they study it, and Tinkers need to perform regular maintenance on some of their stuff or it stops working.
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>>48236060
They don't ignore physical laws; everything a Tinker does is -technically- possible within the laws of physics in the Worm setting.

When they make supertech IN A CAVE, WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS, the shard actually guides them, and enhances there coordination so they don't accidentally add 1 too many drops of [poisonous/radioactive thing #7]

It's constantly perched over their shoulder, metaphorically speaking, looking out for interesting stuff that could be used.
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>>48236102
The explanation for that is actually that the shards intentionally design things with so many useless and obscure parts and workings that nobody can reverse engineer it.
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>>48236100
I get that they can design clarktech via super science/plot BS, what I don't get is how they can put the stuff together.

How does anyone build stuff with their teeth? How does someone manipulate parts too small for them to properly position them?
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>>48236102
>Non-Tinkers tend to be unable to figure out how Tinker-Tech works no matter how much they study it

This is partially because they don't have the requisite knowledge: the technology is just so far ahead of their current understanding of science.

Real-life, unlike fictionland, actually requires you to already understand the principles behind what you're trying to reverse engineer.

Like, if you dropped a smartphone in the Renaissance-era, it'd take several generations of constant study to be reverse-engineered, assuming they managed it at all.
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>>48235120
>Powers in Worm are supposed to be unique

Uh, actually, first generation triggers are typically diverse but later generations are more mix-and-match due to buds borrowing from nearby shards. Premier example of this is the two New Wave families: several members have beams and shields, Glory Girl doesn't have the beams but has the personal shield as well as super-strength (possibly influenced by Manpower) and aura (probably from Gallant).

Another example is the Heartbreaker clan, quite a few mind/body-control type capes (Heartbreaker, Regent, Cherish, etc).
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>>48236139
Keep in mind they do have a legit alien bio-supercomputer attached to their brain, influencing their actions. Doesn't matter if person A's body can't manage the sheer precision to make specific sample X of Material Y under reaction Z to create this specific design in this specific situation when the landmass sized macguffin can manipulate them to do so.

Also again, Wildbow isn't an engineer. And his statements on the subject have varied like a lot of stuff he's talked about. So go with what makes sense to you I guess.
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>>48236102
They don't anon.
Every piece of tech a Tinker makes or uses was stolen by the Entities from one civilization or another that they had already used as guinea pigs.

>>48236139
The shard guides them, so they don't accidentally kill themselves.
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>>48236150
That and because the shard guides things so that they are pointlessly complicated in ways that require the shard's help to be understood.
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/JC/, what are some examples of "meh" media that you think would make a decent jump?

That we don't already have.
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>>48235847
Eh. I guess. The actual power reads more like a massive damage soak than anything else. It seems balanced compared to the ability to perfectly understand and mindfuck someone after a short conversation, but I get where you're coming from.
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>>48236172
When
WHEN

If I'm gonna betray my humanity for a xeno alt form I want THE XENO alt form.
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>>48236172
Wand of Gamalon.
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>>48236206
I didn't know you wanted to be a mother, Strike-Chan.
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>>48235459
>Friendbringer
DAAWWWWW. Though for 50cp, I'd want them to have chibi-tier versions of their powers. So Chibi-Levi has super-soaker powers, etc. Basically a 1, tops, on the PRT threat scale.

... dammit, I'm probably spending 150cp minimum either way, aren't I?
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>>48236206
Never. The guy who claimed it disappeared ages ago.
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>>48236236
That's the idea, so you can have your chibi Ziz friendbringer use her TK to draw you a bath and then sit there singing quietly to help relax all the stress away while Leviathan takes care of lathering up your hair.

Entirely just for shiggles. It's too amusing.
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>>48236249
OAA? No he didn't. I saw him posting visibly as recently as last month.
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>>48236249
I thought he said he was alive, but working slowly a couple dozen threads ago?
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>>48235961
Every time I yell at you I want to hug you afterwards.
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>>48236255
They have PRT threat rating 1. That's awesome!!
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>>48236226
I'm 1360
I think it's about time

>>48236249
;-;
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>>48236260
>>48236262

And what makes you think that wasn't some anon false-flagging?
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>>48236255
Eeee! Yes, do eeet. There's no real way they'd fit with the wormiverse, but still, do eeeeet, too awesome and adorable an idea to not do.
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>>48236287
He was posting in spoiler tags anon! It must have been him.
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>>48236294
It's Cultist Chan! Quick someone catch her!
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>>48236287
Writing style was consistent.
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>>48236294
Nah, it fits. You're just a crazy Master whose projections look like the Endbringers. You're clearly deeply disturbed, but what parahuman isn't?
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>>48236307
It's too late anon, she already captured my heart.
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>>48236335
Fooo Khaooos?
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>>48236382
Of course.
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Alright everyone, this is what I have for now.

If I come up with any new items or disadvantages i'll add them in the coming days. As well any ruling that need to be made will be added into the notes before the actual 1.0. but for now this is effectively complete.
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>>48236406
Arguments really engage your boosters, huh?
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>>48235749
>My shard was Corrosive Contact.
>If he enforces the manton limit on that power it will literally do nothing
... Manton limit on Corrosive Contact would be "affects others, not user." Without it, you'll melt yourself.
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>>48236413
I just want us all to get along and be happy and have fun.

thus I get my ass in gear in order to attempt to sidetrack everyone.
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>>48236172
Interstellar

Fight me.
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>>48236255
Does Doormaker give you the ability to "browse through" mirror worlds so that you actually know what type of universe you're making a portal to or are you completely blind on that front? Also is there any way make your portals permanent, as in if someone kills you they'd stay open?
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>>48232225
As I've lost a close friend I have trouble hearing this song.
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>>48236255
>chibi Behemoth making your toast in the morning
Too adorable to turn down.
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>>48236172
Just because of the name

also the fight scenes were pretty cool, I guess
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>>48236451
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEr4od4jQk0

Yes.
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>>48236444
The best would chibi Tohu. She can possess any three chibi power sets at once. With the others, there's limits to what sort of cute antics they can get up to, but Tohu has versatility.
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>>48236451
The book series is better. If anyone were to make a jump of it, that's what they should go with.
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>>48236433
Canon Doormaker opens a gateway with whatever's on the other side visible, but I don't recall them ever mentioning anything that comes with a difference in air pressure or what have you.
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>>48236489
oh dang I didn't even realize it was based on a book, I'll have to read it sometime
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>>48236427
Well it's pretty late so sadly not alot of people around to build.
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>>48236497
Canon Doormaker also had Clairvoyant hanging over his shoulder, so.
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How strong would Rory the Reaper from GATE be compared to Karasuba from Sekirei?
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>>48236499
The book is so much different. The movie is about some ancient order that hunts down and kills teleporters. The book is about ONE teleporter, who as far as he knows is unique, and the situations he gets into as he makes use of his powers. Has a lot of interesting concepts in it, especially in the later books when he's had a kid who shares his powers.
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>>48236520
>when he's had a kid who shares his powers.
I take it there was a delay on the kid manifesting that, because damn.
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How fucked is the world if I give Girl Genius Sparks access to my entire cache of technological schematics from futuristic scifi jumps?
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>>48236512
I'm just referencing the fact that when a portal's opened, you can see through it but I never heard anyone say anything about air wooshing through or whatever.

If you open your portal to a hell world, that's your problem.
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>>48236508
Yeah, I'll post it again in the morning first chance I get.
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Would any children I have inherit a version of the Ancestral Guardian from Van Helsing?
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>>48236537
Extremely fucked, they break physics and frequently blow themselves up with what they already have.
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>>48236538
True, but then again that's as likely as not to just be a case of Wildbow not bothering with descriptions. Because, you know, Wildbow.
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>>48236537
They can warp reality to make death rays out out of 18th century steampunk tech. Now think about the difference between a steam engine and the death star.

Yeah.
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>>48236406
I'm a little confused at the formatting in the Slasher perks section. Are Avenger and Legends perks or descriptions of different types of slashers? If they are perks, do they actually do anything other than give you more of a background?
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>>48236537
>I'll give space age tech to a bunch of physics shattering loonies who can make death rays in the pre-industrial era and have a propensity for blowing themselves up.

>What could possibly go wrong?
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>>48236635
Well if you don't care about that planet then you might just get some pretty cool shit out of it after the fires stop raging some time next year.
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>>48236620
you're right it looks dumb. i'll fix it to make more sense.

Avenger is a ripper class and is immediately followed by their perk and frailty.

Legend is the Avenger's Scourge level, and is likewise followed by its perk and frailty.

This format continues through the slasher section until the standard slasher perks begin.

I'll reformat it to look better.
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>>48236635
What is jumpchain for 300, Alex.
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>>48234031
>>48234059
The 'mass based weaponry' thing is more guns and missiles and explosives then melee, given the the number of blades and punch characters.
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>>48236646
Yes but you could just as easily take Strong Spark yourself along with the Controlled Sparking perk, you could make the cool stuff yourself and not have all the things explode.
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>>48236649
Also are we allowed to take perks from opposing classes? Like for instance, could I take both the Mask perk and the Psycho perk?
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>>48236666
Good to know!
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>>48236683
For now i'll rule that you can but since the Mask's innate frailty cancels out the Psycho's ability you have both frailties but no access to the Psycho's ability (since you cant speak). Post-jump the frailties go away at which point both abilities are accessible.
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>>48236635
Can you say "false vacuum decay event", kids?

I knew you could!

EVERYBODY INTO THE WAREHOUSE!
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Rolled 4, 451 = 455 (2d595)

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>>48236784
>vacuum collapse
Hope the jumper bought ForceWall. And has enough supplies to last however long was left in the jump.
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>>48236820
Force Wall is a must for that very reason. Plus, unlimited pizza! And other magics that serve the same purpose.
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>>48236820
Getting trapped in the warehouse after doing something stupid is something I am intimately familiar with, I have gotten stuck in the warehouse with the entrance closed more than once.
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>>48236829
Force Wall can only withstand the pressures equal to the bottom of the Mariana Trench, past that it collapses.
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Rolled 2, 9 = 11 (2d9)

>>48236805
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>>48236874
Where does it say that?
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>>48236874
sounds like a bullshit story to me.
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>>48236887
Common sense.
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>>48236689
Oh. Uh. Well fuck me. I just wanted to spread information. but now my secret has been revealed
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>>48236874
It is thread consensus that the force wall is absolute and cannot be breached period, in other words fiat enforced.
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>>48236719
>Mind Breaker- 300cp (Requires Thought Projection): Mind Breaker does not inflict any damage on a victim. Instead it warps the user's mind, causing temporary bouts of insanity on the low end, with full blown psychosis on the high end levels of this power.
>Instead it warps the user's mind
>user's mind

Uh, what? Is this like a Reality Marble sort of thing?
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>>48236903
Yeah and the thread is full of no limits fallacy powerwankers.
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>>48236874
>>48236900

>Adds a forcefield to the gateway to seal the entrance behind you.

>Common sense.

What the heck is common sense about using a feature on Earth to measure what a thing running on jumpchain fiat can or cannot do?
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Can the Raven-like origin in Teen Titans be sued to escape the warehouse when the door is closed? I keep getting locked inside and need a reliable way out.
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>>48236900
It's "common sense" to arbitrarily limit a significant cp purchase to be weak-as-fuck? Ok, buddy.
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>>48236917
No you are directly damaging an individual's psyche bringing about mental derangement.

I see my mistake it should say target's mind.

oops.
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>>48236427
You're a hero for doing this mang. Jumpchain is supposed to be fun.
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>>48236930
How do you even get locked inside the Warehouse i the first place? You're not supposed to be able to be in there while the door is closed.
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>>48236942
Okay, thanks for clearing that up.
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>>48236874
>>48236900

Yeah, no. Even QS never made any rulings along those lines. And he made the fucking thing.
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>>48236668
All the things must explode!
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>>48236958
Yeah well guess what? Quicksilver is gone. Someone needs to go in and fix his mistakes.
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>>48236951
I imagine it's a concern if you jump into the warehouse in the middle of an earthquake or something and the door gets covered by debris.
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>>48236946
thank you a lot, I appreciate it. Hopefully I get some decent item ideas soon-ish so I can officially declare it complete and start working on something new.
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>>48236930
>>48236951

Yeah, seriously. If you have a way to get "locked in", that same method should be able to used to get back out.

Like the whistle from Barkley's Shut and Jam.
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>>48236951
You know those extra life perks? One of them defaults to the warehouse if the main location for revival is not available. My warehouse was closed when it proced and I ended up trapped inside.
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>>48236967
And who gave authority to you?

Nobody. Piss off, ya wankstain.
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Ignore the troll, anons.
His mom made him clean his room and now he's back, just ignore and report.
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>>48236982
>pic-related
I am imagining jump-chan laughing its omnipotent ass off.
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>>48236982
Rust right? That defaults to the warehouse post jump even if you have beds available.
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>>48237002
That is exactly what happened, it was halfway through the jump so five years of my time there mostly consisted of a lot of banging my head against the wall while listening to spectral laughter that I am sure was Jump Chan (simple because it could only have been her).
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>>48236982
>>48236951
Anyway, to answer your question, just do what you think is best. The Warehouse is pure JumpChain fiat and I don't want to make rulings on it.
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>>48235273
Shitposting. Sadly it's becoming far too common for my liking, I may switch it out for something else.
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If I were to take Real Politics in GATE what would that mean? I'm not a big guy into how the JSDF can or would respond but wouldn't this be hella different with the amount of team work evidence often by the United States and Japan? If I'm gonna do this I'd like to know how it would work.
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>>48237095
Isn't meta-fiction generally frowned upon here?
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>>48237051
It's these sorts of stories that have me wonder, from time to time, just how many jumpers get Sent Home due to Not As Planned incidents. And whether jumpchan has a highlights reel.
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>>48237051
Would having been to a plane/dimension be enough for me to use the Dimensional Travel power to reach it again later?
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>>48237105
The politicians in GATE are pants on head retarded, that drawback makes them not pants on head retarded.
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>>48236967
And that someone will never be you, silly rabbit

Hell, the warehouse is in extradimensional space, so I see myforce field as the IFF part of the portal system. If the Jumper does not want to let you in, the portal does not exist for you as anything more than a 2d Hologram. Try to force through, and you basically do a Wile E Coyote slamming against whatever surface the portal is projected on.
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>>48237166
>silly rabbit

Is this a thing now or something?
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>>48237134
So, what, shit goes mostly the same?
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>>48237206
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>>48237236
No the GATE politicians are pants on head retarded by politician standards, the drawback improves them to the point of real world politician levels of incompetence.
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>>48237274
Really? I don't believe you. I'm honestly pretty sure that real life politicians are even fucking dumber than GATE ones, its the military that's pants on head retarded in GATE.
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>>48236406
Looks good, if long. But still, it looks pretty good. It offers useful abilities, enough to want to max your drawbacks, but nothing game-breaking either.

The items are a little lax though. The Locus seems to be the best by far, and the most interesting.
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>>48237314
Yeah, I'm going to scour the source material for some good item ideas once i'm well rested.
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>>48237305
>dumb

Nah, they've got enough brainpower and hired help to navigate the legalese.

They just don't care.

That's enough /pol/ for now, though.
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>>48237125
As long as that other dimension is not a currently time locked previous Jump, I don't see why not.
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>>48237305
The JSDF in GATE are cloaked in plot armor and nationalism.
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>>48237341
>Nah, they've got enough brainpower and hired help to navigate the legalese.
You mean they have money and a distinct lack of dignity?
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>>48237314
Oh, yes. Something I noticed: I don't know if you were going for balance or trying to stay faithful to the source material, but literally 3/4 of the Occult perks feel... the same. I don't know how you could improve that or if you even need to but it's just something I thought I'd point out.
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>>48237364
>>48237341
Are you finished spouting memes? I'll admit that it's pretty biased in nationalism, but the politics aren't anymore ridiculous than anything I can dig up about real world politicians in less than half an hour google searching.
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>>48237379
Nearly all the abilities of the associated Occult Paths made the transition from the source material to this. I can understand where some may feel same-ish, such as the myriad of ways of travelling to the various spiritual realms.

But there isnt much for me to do as it is. I know they seem the same, but they are all there for a reason I promise.
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>>48237408
They sent armed forces to kidnap a VIP the same day they first became public, in a first world allied country.
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>>48237330
I have a question. The Cryokinetic perk under the psychic tree -- is it referring to degrees C or degrees F? That's a pretty important distinction.
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If the ben 10 jumpmaker is around or reads this later, you need a 50cp option in the jump. I'm left with spare change.
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>>48237432
I just checked to be sure and it says degrees Fahrenheit. I'll add that in.
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>>48237432
Nevermind, actually. -273
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>>48237425
Not that anon but
>implying that's a symptom of retardation
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>>48237443
If the Ben 10 Jumpmaker is around or reads this later, I nominate an Infinite Smoothies item as the 50CP option.

All smoothies are horrible flavors that only Ben would like. But they replenish every day!
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>>48237456
-273 is Absolute Zero for Celsius. It says -400 (but still above A0). And it actually does reference Fahrenheit -- I just missed it.
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>>48237473
Well I added in that it means Fahrenheit so it is easier to understand in the future.
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>>48237463
Horrified but as the player requesting a 50cp perk so he isn't left with spare change, I endorse this course of action
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>>48235459
>>48236255

>spent the morning revealing a rather embarrassing combo
>Notes section: hmm, what could that combo produce if it really fucked up? I know, friendbringers! Gotta stop this system from making THOSE because that would be bad for reasons!
>haha, not like that could ever happen though right?
>go out for the whole day
>one disappointing breakfast
>one bloated but refreshing lunch
>one trip to the mall's arcade (fuck yeah, beat Monster Eye and still have half mah coins left!)
>one walk home through the rainstorm (fucking Taiwan, get your weather together)
>go home, tired and wet
>log on to /tg/
>What's new-
>FRIENDBRINGERS ARE NOW GONNA BE A THING

WHAT

BUT

I

THAT

BUT

WORM

PETS

SHARDS

BUT

AKBFHSJLaIOGHOESGJKNLSDKNDMVLKNDJSV:NDSM<NDS

WHY

/YOU DON'T GET TO BRING FRIENDS/

h-h-have you been my Shadow all along, Worm Anon?
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>>48237498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgfWEjpEhsU
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>>48237498
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>>48237330
Blood Bathing rituals.
The ability to design them, and use them on yourself and others.
You probably won't need it for "immortality," but some of the options like fast healing, strength and durability would be nice.
Especially of the plusses and minuses don't have to be equal by Perk Fiat. Or Consider using jumper/companion blood or a ritual being performed by a Jumper/Companion to give a lot of pluses from the transdimensional travel mojo.
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>>48237552
I was thinking about the blood bathers.

Tomes with blood bathing rituals might be a decent item.
Or an equivalent perk like Demonology.

Also, I thought about including Body-Thieves but they just dont feel right for some reason.
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>>48237498
You've come a long way ASA. It's been a long path, fraught with hardship and darkness. But through it all you've only ever been trying to do what you thought was right, in the only way you knew how at the time. But your aren't defined by your follies and your missteps.

Stop doubting yourself and hiding behind a mask made of your own despair. Believe in the you that believes in yourself.
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>>48237608
I need Friendbringers.
I need at least six of them, one for each Canon Endbringer.
Unless Tohu and Bohu come as a packaged pair?
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>>48236406
It just occurred to me how terrifying the collective unconscious based psychic abilities would be if someone attempted to activate them in persona.

eep.
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>>48237608
And come on, who could say no to these cuties?
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>>48237608
I'll most likely get Ziz, Behemoth, Levithian, and Tohu. Then I'll take them to Darkest Dungeon so that I can group them up under a single Companion slot.
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>>48237657
Easily by saying No.
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>>48237657
Is that still on-going? It was a comfy fic.

>>48237661
Do Pets count as Companions?
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>>48237661
>separating Tohu from her sister
That's cruel, anon. They go everywhere together.
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>>48237666
Confirmed for Satan.
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>>48236406
Just to be sure, can Compelling Madness be used to redeem people as well as corrupt them?
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>>48237661
>Using that bullshit companion cheat he snuck in
Gross.
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>Satan says "No" to Friendbringers
This Is Not Justice! YOU'VE GONE TOO FAR THIS TIME SATAN!
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>>48237608
LA LA LA LA NOT LISTENING UH SOMETHING SOMETHING IRREDEEMABLE SOMETHING MUDA-DA RASSEN

/RANDOM LINKIN PARK LYRICS/

>>48237519
>>48237531
I WILL PLAY AS MANY BLARING SYNTH NOISES, DRUMS AND TECHNO SWIVLES AS IT TAKES TO DROWN YOU LOT OUT EVEN THOUGH I NO LONGER HAVE ANY FAITH IN THEM AND MAY OR MAY NOT CURRENTLY BE IN A CINNAMON TOAST CRUNCH OVERDOSE-INDUCED NIGHTMARE

>>48237579
Also, have you considered giving Mystery Cults a little representation? Though to be fair I can see how those might be difficult to fluff/define. Or maybe something about having made contact with the God-Machine, or is that something you could fluff for some of the more ambiguously sourced powers? I think some GM related drawbacks (maybe tiered based on the thing's interest in you) would be appropriate too.
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>>48237699
It's Alright Man Of The Spiral. Embrace your Humanity once more.
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>>48237682
Theoretically. During the jump, since you will be under the influence of the dark impulse, it may wind up biting you in the ass. but you are welcome to try, and it will definitely be more effective post-jump.
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>>48237671
Only if they're sapient or if the jump says they are Companions.
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>>48237699
I have minimal experience with god-machine chronicle content. I know it's the current version of the cannon but it just doesn't jibe with me that well.

I can do a deep dive into the stuff but it definitely wont be a part of the "complete" version I post later this week.
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>>48237732
Not even the canon Endbringers are Sapient, at least to my knowledge. More like advanced Computers.
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>>48237125
This >>48237343
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244. EVO: Search for Eden
Era: Early Man
Origin: Bolbox
Perks: Evolutionary Potential, Mystery Time Stream Evolves You, Record of Evolution, Instinct, Exotic Materials, External Influence (-100), Sensor Arrays (-200), True Instincts (-400), Locale Evolution (-300)
Items: Red Crystal, Icon of Civilization (-400)
Drawbacks: Bowing Out, Curse of the Platypus (+100), No Control (+100), Bad Influence (+200)

Gaia is a nice lady and I got to give her a hug, because I helped kill the real Bolbox, who is a dick. I empowered the Life during the last stage of this weird tournament, and she got her husbandoe, so I got a hug.

The rest of the time was spent traveling and being mocked by my companions for spontaneously developing flippers in rainstorms, or growing wings that time I tripped on a log, or that time I attempted the sex and... stuff happened. Let's leave it at that. There were a lot of cool monsters faffing about, too, and I got to run a lot. What can I say, I'm a prey animal and I've built myself around healing, hiding, and running away. So, that's what I ended up doing most of the jump. The teleporting psyker-dragons were the most problematic, though. They could see anything anyone could see. It was terrifying.
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Rolled 376, 400 = 776 (2d595)

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>>48237699
>denying yourself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfO3_qbtjLQ
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>>48237690
I checked and the only thing most people said about it is the fact that it would be useless, because people wanted unique companions. So me using it on a bunch of pets would be both fitting, in my mind as it is still an exploit so I shouldn't get too much out of it, and funny. Merely my opinion.
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>>48237608
>>48237632
I am now imagining a Endbringer Child Companion option, where you get a child inserted into your life with High end Cape level versions of an endbringers power set (But no insane Endbringer core nonsense or the body is decoration nonsense)

Or you can import a pre-existing child of yours for free (adopted ones/foundlings count)

Pis very related.
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So hey, since I should have this jump totally complete by the end of the week, and the fun people appear to be online , does anyone have any suggestions for what my next project should be?

i would love to make a geist the sin eater jump, but i can already feel how obnoxious that would be to make.
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>>48237343
>>48237745
Thank you, in that case it will work for my purposes considering how I house rule the warehouse.
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>>48237817
Well, to narrow down the potential answers I can give you, do you think you would enjoy making another tabletop rpg more, or something like a video game or show?
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>>48237803
There's a fic where Taylor turns the Endbringers into teenagers, who call her their mother.
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>>48237737
From a certain point of view, we're just sufficiently advanced computers. But as far as Worm canon goes, I don't know if Wildbow ever confirmed whether (any of) the Endbringers were sentient, sapient or neither.
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>>48236406
Jump 121: World of Darkness
Location: Des Moines, Iowa(rolled 8)
Origin: Drop-in
Occult Path: Slasher (200)
Origin Perks
A Path in the Gloom (free)
Occult Path Perks
Profiling (free)
Compelling Madness (200)
Atavism (100)
Murder Expert (100)
Telltale Murder (free)
No Escape (200)
Telltale Murder (200)
Gear
The Core Rulebook (free)
Disadvantages
Second Edition (+0)
What I Was Doing Before (+0)
Dark Impulse- everyone (+0)
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>>48237845
We got to look directly at Ziz's thought process. She's very sapient.
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>>48237828
Some I have in mind are Geist, Ultraman, Fighting Foodons, He-Man & She-Ra, and WH40K Tau.

If any of these are already claimed, please tell me. Otherwise throw me your vote.
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>>48237861
>He-Man
YES
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>>48237861
Oh yeah, or X-Files.
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>>48237861
...I would kill for a He-Man jump.

Also I'm actually the one who claimed Tau waaaaay back and am still slogging through the novels again after RL got away from me.
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>>48237861
>Fighting Foodons
>40K Tau
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>>48237871
>X-Files
YES again
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>>48237861
>He-Man
>Tau
I approve of both of these.

Please. Just let us have a Skeletor Origin, and a Farsight Enclave option.
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>>48237861
He Man and Fighting Foodons sound great! So does Tau but I think someone claimed it.
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>>48237868
>>48237879
>>48237885
>>48237900

Looks like He-Man will be my next project.

If no one grabs the other available ones by the time i'm done with that, then Fighting Foodons will be the next one after that.
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>>48237945
Hooray! Which version of He Man will it be?
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>>48237846
Nice. I knew most people were looking forward to the slasher path. I'm happy to see a build already.

Now, Go forth and get your jollies murdering your way through the World of Darkness!
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>>48237963
Likely something between the original and the comics and some of the modern stuff to fill it out. It will also include stuff from She-ra as well.

Probably a +0cp drawback to be in the live-action movie version. Just for fun.
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>>48237983
>original
I meant original cartoon (I enjoy hammy fun). I'll try to strike a good balance between it being serious and a bit goofy.
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>>48237945
He Man 2002 cartoon was good. As well the campy 80s version as well.

http://youtu.be/EyoutEHpPAU
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>A:tLA
>Jump 15
>roll Location
>I just got dumped in the Spirit World and points are at a premium for my build

HELP
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So, Anomalous Physiology from SCP. How much damage is actually needed to kill you with that? What combos well with it?
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Welp, with all this out of the way I should be getting off for the night.

See you all tomorrow /JC/ !
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>>48238002
There cannot be anything left, not even a trace of dust.
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>>48238002
Regeneration+Speed from Marvel works really well with it, considering it makes you regenerate fast enough to get your arm cut off at the start of throwing a punch and have it fully formed again by the time your punch connects.
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>>48238041
>reads perk
where dust = cellular remains, and your consciousness stays with the largest living piece, presumably even if that's a single microscopic cell.

Woah. IOW, freaking damn hard to kill. I'm amazed it's merely 600cp.
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>>48238091
Dust OR cellular remains.
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>>48238091
SCP has multiple universe killing eldritch horrors, it's honestly pretty weaksause comparative to in setting threats.
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>>48238002
Take Waveform Anatomy.
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>>48238103
Ah, right, so excellent for skellies and golems too.
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>>48238123
Indeed, excellent for everyone really.
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>>48238128
For the low low price of 600 CP, YOU can be the Sealed Evil In A Can, because they couldn't find an easy way to kill you.
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Quick Naruto question: If you take Malformed Chakra Coils, can you still use doujutsu and the Kaguya bones, since those are part of your body?
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>>48238158
Combine with excessive durability perks just for fun.
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I have a questing about From Dust; if you take the breath origin, do you have that as an alt form or something, or do the powers you get just work as an extension of whatever form you have, or what
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>>48238164
Shut up about Naruto.
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>>48238196
I swear, nobody fucking talked about naruto so much until recently, it must be just one guy that won't stop talking about it.
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>>48238164
Bloodline abilities still run off chakra so most likely not. Especially with the bone manipulation as messing that up is a good way to kill yourself painfully.
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>>48235326
>>48235114
>Please make sure your original jump is kept on the drive, and say jumpers have the choice of which one to use. The complainers will still whine, but this gives you something to say to shut them up.


this is a bad idea anon. If you start with this, people will never update later.

Worm_anon, the thing is that Worm is a fundamental Jump for most builds, and none wants to have one their most defining abilities that they got months ago be suddenly changed or nerfed. And since we cannot get more powers because it's just one person, one power, even you adding content is not really going to help.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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