Is a replica that surpasses the original item a replica at all?

>>48200142
Yes.

>>48200142
Is a pristine replica Constitution of the United States worth more than the aged original?

No, it is a derivative work.

>>48200174
Trick question. Constitution of the United States is not worth a damn.

>>48200202
Its worth literally more than you and everything you own.

>>48200142
By tautology, yes.
It's also not a very good replica if it's better.

>>48200288
That doesn't contradict what I said.

>>48200142
Technically the correct term for an improved replica (at least in the automotive world) is a restomod

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>>48200142
If she doesn't please old men for gems, does that mean she surpasses >Rin?

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>>48200401
Only if she can accept that Sherro loves Rin & will never lover her.

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>>48200142
Mongrel!

>>48200688
S-s-shut up! At least, she still has her anal virginity. ;_;

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What did he mean by this?

Another fateshit thread? I thought /a/ was for this

>>48201461
>waaaahhhhh people like things I don't like
Fuck off.

>>48201485
Hey man you can eat all the shit you want, just do it in the shit restaurant.

>>48200142
An item being an improvement from the original doesn't mean that it's no longer a replica. If it was designed specifically to be the same as the original but just so happens to be a bit better then it's still a replica, just one with an unintended upgrade.
>>48201485
You have to admit that this has nothing to do with /tg/.

>>48201546
>anime is shit
Ok kid.

>>48200142

Depends on the item, and the replica.

>>48200142
Yes. If something is made to be a copy of something, it is a replica, regardless of difference in quality, even if that difference is positive.

>>48201310
That's a bad thing. Rin lost her virginity to Sherro and she's happy about that.

>>48200202
Hillary pls go

>>48201396
Something something I don't wanna murderhobo anymore.

>>48200142
Was it made to resemble the original? Then yes.

>>48201561
Anime is fine, it's just the Fate/stay crap.

>>48200142
Isn't that what prototypes and production models are there for, in effect?

>>48200142
Shut the fuck up Nisioisin.

>>48200142
Yes. Originality is about position in timeline, not a quality question. I have more interesting question. Suppose the original item was a copy of it's replica, which was sent back in time. Which one is the original, and which is not?

>>48200202
Like all things in life, it's only worth what we believe it's worth.

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>>48200202
Supreme Court pls go

>>48200142
Imagine you have an axe. The axe gets used a lot, and so occasionally needs maintenance: a new wooden handle, replacement leather for the grip, a new iron axehead, and so on. Eventually, the axe will have no original components left.

The question is, after all that maintenance, is it still the same axe?

>>48204892
Of course.
To be is to become.

>>48201396
Isn't it just saying that ULB is something that only exists because of his unique experiences and mindset. Only someone as twisted as Shirou can make a reality marble and it's built from all of his experiences and represents what how far he's willing to go for his dream.
That's what I thought at least.

>>48204892
Yes. Continuity is important for self-identity, not such measly things as "body" or "brain".

http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/12/what-makes-you-you.html

>>48204892
Imagine you have cells. These multiply and die and are constantly being replaced.

If all of your original cells are replaced by new ones, are you still you, or are you a clone of you that thinks you're you?

That is almost literally what you just asked.

>>48200174

In that it's value is measured by a different measure than quality, sure.

>>48200142
Yes. It's a a replica that's better made.
This is one of those things that when translated into English is completely nonsensical because we actually CAN describe certain things in ways the Japanese language literally had no syntax or words for.

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>>48200142
I don't know. Let's ask the best replica what she thinks.
>"Of course, I do love you. Isn't that how you made me?"
Yeah, seems like it.

>>48202885
>implying NiSiOiSiN cares for such petty thoughts like replicas surpassing the original

>>48205602
>>48204892
This is a case where the legal identity of the object is considered immutable for convenience's sake.

As in, if that axe is stolen, they aren't going to look for the axe that looks like the one your ancestor first got his hands on, just like they aren't going to throw you in jail for identity theft on the grounds that you don't look like your baby pictures any longer.

>>48200142
Yes, as it was not the original, even if it improves upon said original. However, even if it is a replica, that does not detract form it's quality or power. In most cases at least.

>>48201396
That his life, mind, purpose and very soul was consumed by his power. After he made the deal to become a Counter Guardian, his entire existence was one slaughter to the next, and everything he did became the use of his Reality Marble, to the exclusion of all else. I think that's at least part of it. Also everything this guy said>>48205425

>>48206094
That's literally 1/3 of Nisemonogatari...

>>48200142
Archer a shit
Gilgamesh a best

>>48210920
I suppose that someone who was gifted every Noble Phantasm in the world is better than someone who works hard to create them back to reality :D

>>48200142
Dumb pseudo-philosophical question of no relevance whatsoever.

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>>48205602
Imagine the universe is made of subatomic particles.

Every Planck time, all of these particles dissapear and an identical set of particles appears somewhere else.

If all of the subatomic particles are gone, and new ones appear minute distances away, is it still the same universe?

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>>48212681
>Zeno

>>48201396
Reality Marble is when you substitute reality for your own, because you are crazy enough to just disbelieve reality.

Shirou is crazy. His entire soul is UBW.

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>>48212800
Steel is his body, fire is his blood.

>>48200142
That VN sucked so hard.
Remember the magical jizz powers of shiro....Yeah...

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the replica chooses it's own destiny

>>48214908
Why do /v/ faggots always post the kiddy version of Solid Snake?

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>>48215030
which version do you prefer?

>>48200845
So why is the 2/3rds god projecting

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>This thread is still up