ITT: People you would not want to play a tabletop game with

>>48198786
Meta as fuck thread you got here.

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Would be cool to have him at the table, but would probably make the most Mary Sue-ass character

>>48198786
Well, I would play with her...

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As a player, he would just argue about alignments the entire session and that his character's obviously evil acts aren't actually evil and it's the alignment system that's broken and inaccurate. He would also berate the players of actual good-aligned characters for their selfless acts and how they take away the accomplishment of overcoming hardship from the people they're helping.

As a player in a system without alignments, his character would perform all sorts of shady acts and justify it as ruthless pragmatism, or say that his character is a superior ubermensch and deserves more than the rest of the feeble masses or some shit.

As a DM he would present plots with ham-fisted clumsy symbolism and force us into scenarios of questionable ethics and morality, and try to "teach us a lesson" about how heroism is dumb and goodness doesn't exist, and probably call us moralfags when we get mad at him for his crappy no-win plot where the villain turned out to be good all along.

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Nothing but whores and moral ambiguity and unnecessary violence, while "reinterpreting" beloved NPCs and completely missing the point of what made them good. Also a heavy dose of strawmanning and forcing real-world politics into an inappropriate setting.

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>>48201859
Am I supposed to know who any of these people are, or is this thread just one giant in-joke?

>>48201885

I don't know who all of them are, but I know who most of them are. Stop living under a rock, anon.

>>48201885
Sorry, the Zack Snyder and Frank Miller posts are mine. I meant to identify Frank Miller there in mine but forgot, but Snyder's name is in the filename.

At least I'm better than the rest of these people and actually give reasons.

>>48198844
I hate hipsters

>>48201915
Is Frank Miller the guy who looks like a skinny Rocky Dennis?

>>48201930
Yeah, the one who looks like a cancer patient.

Black "people"

>>48201885
Here you go:

>>48198786 - Marisha Ray
>>48198806 - Ryan Gosling
>>48199193 - David Bowie
>>48198851 - A. Faggot
>>48201488 - Reggie Watts
>>48201696 - Zack Snyder
>>48201755 - Frank Miller
>>48201859 - Ian Bates

>>48201989
>Ian Bates
No it's Red Shirt Guy

>>48202034
Who's name is Ian Bates.

>>48201989
>>>48199193 - David Bowie
Shit. I didn't recognize him without all the glitter.

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>>48198786
I would DnD with this man.

>>48202162
He doesn't get a name

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>>48202195
I demand this man with him!

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>>48198786
this piece of shit is perma banned from my table for life

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smug fucker can go to hell

>>48202522
Nobody loves his self-insert more than him.

>>48198786
Myself.

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The man who single-handedly destroyed tabletop gaming.

>>48202183
>Not recognizing the godlike cheekbones and the one eye with a permanently dilated pupal.

Bowie's face is distinctive as fuck, if you can't recognize it you should talk to a doctor.

>>48202507
But anon, he's already long dead. H... have you seen him recently? If so, it's probably a lich. Watch out for that.

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This dipshit is never allowed to play D&D at my table.

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Worst roleplayer ever.
She just kept shouting incoherently and knocking the dice all over floor.
Fucking bitch.

>>48202686
Dude Hellen Keller is easily one of the most intelligent people to ever live

>>48198786
I'd play a game with her, but she wouldn't want to play one with me, on account of the fact that I would never stop hitting on her - not even she started hitting me with that staff.

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>mfw he used to play

I can imagine him being a right cunt to play with.

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My old group. It was half that guys and I was foreverDM

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>>48202698
If she was so smart then why couldn't she see, hear, or speak? Sounds pretty fucking retarded to me.
Checkmate, dumbass.

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Also ITT: Punchable faces

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>>48202842
shut up, boy

>>48202842
Fuck, he'd probably just complain that his intern gave him the wrong synopsis on the rules

>>48202820
She learned how to speak despite being blind and deaf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzlriQv16gg

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>>48199193
>implying playing with him wouldn't be an explosive experience

>>48202820
Steven Hawking can't speak either, and nobody would question his intellect.

Basically those people mimaxed Intelligence so hard they even gave up some basic abilities for it.

>>48202952
>Basically those people mimaxed Intelligence so hard they even gave up some basic abilities for it.
Naw that's some autists, hawking just had a disease, probably isn't/wasn't autistic

>>48202907
Also became one of the Soviets' useful idiots.

>>48201989
>A. Faggot
Dammit anon i was drinking

>>48198786
Why does this woman handle a monk's spade like a lap dance pole.
Does she even know what is a monk's spade to begin with.

>>48201885
you don't know who david bowie is? fuckin /tg/ man

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>>48202952
>falling for one of the most obvious baits I've ever seen on /tg/

>>48202980
>Had
You do realize he isn't dead right?

>>48206725
Thought he finally went full lich. My mistake.

>>48202905
I choked on my water

>>48206816
What's the cybernetic version of a lich?

>>48201755
Jesus, that's Frank Miller? What the fuck happened to him? Last I saw him he looked about half as old ...

>>48201924
I imagine you hate a lot of words you don't know the meaning of, dumbass. Idiots are always defensively proud of their ignorance.

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>>48198786
Can we derail this thread, and just talk about Marisha, why viewers seem to dislike her?
What's the fa/tg/uys' take on this?

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>>48209498
>druid princess, big time mary sue
>sleeping with DM, special treatment
>terrible RP and never shuts up.
>her personality is indistinguishable from her character
>critical role has its moments, but every time she talks I lose interest
>seems like a decent person, just can't stand her on the table

>>48210495
>>terrible RP and never shuts up.
>>her personality is indistinguishable from her character
>>critical role has its moments, but every time she talks I lose interest
>>seems like a decent person, just can't stand her on the table

These are the ones I have trouble with. She is OK, until she decides to RP. And then it is just painful as fuck to listen to. Real cringe territory for me.

Everyone else is fine for the most part. But when she decides to speak in character it is just drowning in 'look at me, I am special emotional Mary Sue'.

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>>48210687
yeah I have no problem with her as a person whatsoever.
she's obviously passionate about the hobby and does charity work.
her RP is just overpoweringly annoying.

>>48210687
My issue with her is that while other players manage to have moments of dialogue and interaction, those come off as drama.

When she roleplays, it comes off as her trying to "fake" drama, like someone who doesn't really understand what gravitas is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv0aljC1MjI

She seems to play emotionally inappropriate responses and an aversion to intimacy as her go to. Also drunk.

>>48211547
She's lost a lot of weight since that.

>>48209498
Is this some type of streamed boardgame attention whore begging for donations thing? Because fuck off if it is.

>>48211547
sums up the typical manhating routine.

>>48210687
So you don't think her character is a problem? A whiney insecure whimp princess? I am okay with her quest to become the leader of her split living people but does she have to be such a downer? Seriously, it's like the character doesn't know what fun is...

>>48210495
>gravitas
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>>48211547
All valid points. But I see Liam pulling VERY similar shit, often misreading situations, and making them out as more dramatic/tragic than they are. Why does no one have a problem with him? Hell, even being an impartial devil's advocate I prefer his RP as well.
My belief is that this is because Marisha manages to be an SJW ingame, and super fucking selfrighteous a lot of the time, all while either misreading the situation, making her come off as trigger happy to jump to conclusions, or simply imposes a sense of 'justice' that is completely unviable in the world in which their characters preside.

>>48207259
One of the whores turned out to be a succubus. He barely made it out alive.

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>>48212449
hey hey hey, we're only talking about one character
>liam does RETARDED shit and commanders the party with bad decisions. so helm be praised i agree with you.

>>48202905
Apparently this is something I haven't heard of, and my Google-fu is failing me. What is this referring to?

>>48206610
Anon was clearly joking, I have no idea how multiple people fell for something that wasn't even bait.

>>48207259
God is slowly killing him for how he wrote Superman in DKR.

>>48212202
>So you don't think her character is a problem? A whiney insecure whimp princess?

This is one of those times I'm not drawing a hard line between character and player in regards to how they RP. The biggest problem I see is that the player can't seem to figure out what RP is without DRAMA!!!1! I swear she may hyperventilate one of these days while on the show.

>>48212449
Look, you aren't going to be able to argue me in to thinking Liam's character is well done. If I had to guess I would say that Liam was going through some bad times during character creation and this character is his expression of his inner twelve year old edgelord - your basic 'always sitting in a corner' combined with a 'I wanna be in love' character.

The guy i enjoyed the most was the guy that played the dragonborn. He was fun at least, and tended to be in character far more than the others (and his character tended to be something other than himself). But he was a tool one time too many, with some off table drama toolishness, and he is gone.

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>Spends five minutes talking about how much of a good feminist he is for making his fighter a woman
>Laughs at his own 'witty' dialogue
>Pitches a passive-aggressive fit if the plot doesn't go *exactly* the direction he wants

>>48214134
>>Pitches a passive-aggressive fit if the plot doesn't go *exactly* the direction he wants
So he is a good feminist then?

>>48214512
He's a modern feminist anyway

>>48214512
You're a feminist.

>>48209498
>Her rp is cringy as fuck
>Has to insert her character's loldumb moments into another character's spotlight

It's probably not up yet but if you watch the most recent episode of critical role you'll see just how bad she really is in the first 40 minutes

>>48207259
Stan Lee needs to drain vitality.

Not want to play/ not allow
>womyn
>brown people
>the cool kid stereotype a.k.a. Chad Thundercock
>mentally ill (ponyfags, furfags, moefags etc.)

>>48211547
That was so awful to watch

>>48214107
>Liking orion
He was the one person worse than Marisha

>>48209498
>Can we derail this thread, and just talk about Marisha, why viewers seem to dislike her?
The viewers do not like her because her character is literally unbearable and the only one to even come close to calling her on it is based Percy.

Which is why i'm anticipating the 'Taliesin wants to make time for other projects so he's leaving' episode.

>>48214107
Orion was great.
Though your story isn't really syncing up with the first hand information he gave as to why he left the show. Do you have any evidence to back up your claim that it was due to 'offtable drama toolishness'?
Others are also welcome to interject any sort of evidence if they have it on hand.

>>48213423
Wheaton has a tendency to get the rules wrong when he's doing a show about a game, and when called on it will make a massive, rambling wall of text blog post throwing his producer or interns under the bus for not giving him the right cliff notes because he's a busy guy and doesn't have time to learn games and it's not his fault.

>>48215322
Rather than just admit he made a mistake, like all people occasionally do.

Yeah.

>>48214895

>/pol9k/

How does this even happen? /r9k/ is a "degenerate" hellhole, shouldn't government-funded NEETs and Internet pretend Nazis hate each other?

Anyway, I would not want to play with this guy, because he's autistic.

>>48201885
You don't know who David Bowie is?

Let me guess, you do know who Luis Scott-Vargas is, right?

Jesus fucking christ. How does somebody not know who Bowie is, was, will be. Fffffuuuuck.

>>48215433
It's true. As far as I can tell, /pol/ does dislike /r9k/, on the whole - but it hates the root cause of /r9k/'s degeneracy more than the degenerates themselves.

And /r9k/ loves /pol/ because /r9k/ are some of the most disenfranchised people in the entire world, and /pol/ is full of people who aren't telling them they should be ashamed of themselves because of the way they were born.

So there's a bit of cross-contamination there.

>>48207190
I think that'd be an uploaded consciousness, no?
Or would a brain-in-a-jar cyborg be considered sufficient for cyber-lichdom?

>>48215361
>SJW admitting to making mistakes

>>48215646
To play devils advocate, he will flagellate himself until he bleeds if a progressive woman calls him out on social media, and blanket censor any of his wrong-think :^)

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>>48215510

Hello, Reddit.

>>48215700
Shut up, Wesley!

>>48215716
>Hello, Reddit.
Can't speak for that one guy, but I don't use reddit.

Can't make head nor tails of how their posts are shown.

Do their posts appear in reverse order, most recent at the top? Who can read like that? Ugh.

>>48198786
Felecia Day. Fuck her and everyone who tries to pander to that queen of the nerds shit. Especially you, Wil. Fucking faggot.

>>48207259
>You're feeling it now aren't you...what the rest of us live with everyday...the weight of your own mortality.

>>48214107
>He likes LITERALLY WORST PLAYER

Not even the character, the player is a fucking faglord that metagames, actively steals the spotlight/tells peoples what to do, and fucking cheats like a nigger.

>>48215841
I don't really keep up with most of the 'nerd culture' bullshit but I didn't think she was that bad when she was a guest on Critical Role. Just being the devils advocate.

>>48216083
she was actually really funny as a guest on critical role imo.

>>48215025
Taliesin and Marisha are tight out of game though.

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>>48215977
Not to mention when the fucking DM said 'no you can't do that' so he replied with 'lol I wanna roll for it anyway'. That sorta shit would be strike one for getting booted from the game, DM decides that limits of the world, he's not trying to fucking play against you.

>>48216117
Yeah. But they mentioned in the recent downtime episode that they can 'see their disagreement coming to a head soon' whatever that means, and I don't hold out much hope that Marisha can rein in her rage about someone daring to oppose her for long.

And all it would take would be a couple of words from her to the DM.

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>>48211547
That's terrible, but the ending makes it worth it.

>>48198786
Pic related.

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>>48198786

>>48211547
Somebody actually thought " this is a really good idea and it will be super funny"

>>48216182
When did this happen?

>>48209498
>Does her best crazy-eyes imitation and can't pull it off
Would date, no hesitation.

>>48216151
Yeah this made my blood boil.
In the first few episodes I think Orion won a lot of people over with his quirky character, but it became quickly apparent that he was a shitter. I think the first real shit I remember him doing that put me off was during the beholder fight.

>>48217842
That was really bad. It also annoyed me when he tried to redirect Vex's arrow to hit a switch in the ceiling without anyone asking for his help

>>48216354
FUCK YOU

>>48216206
Yeah he seems like a bit of a douche.

>>48215322
I figured it would be some specific event, the fact that he apparently does this semi-regularly is actually kind of impressive.

>>48215265
Part of it was when Orion flipped out on a fan for making a shirt based on his character. Or how about when Mercer went on Reddit and posted (and since deleted) about a player cheating and not being welcome at the table right when Orion stopped appearing on the show. The reason it took him so long to say anything was because the group was trying to remain cordial and give Orion an out, but by the time any statement was made, it was plain to see that he was removed and not voluntarily left.

>>48215941
>You're FEELING it now, AREN'T you... what the REST of us live with EVERYDAY... the WEIGHT of your own MORTALITY

>>48219919
I'm a Star Trek nerd who actually defends his acting as Wesley Crusher as not being his fault because of how shitty his character was written, but I still can't stand the guy. He had a lot of early internet blogs where he would seriously whine and complain about fucking everything, and I would read this at like 10 years old and be like, "man what is your deal."

He hasn't changed at all. Whoever is prescribing him meds or giving him counseling is committing robbery on a massive scale.

>>48218115
>white knighting an objectivist
what?

>>48219985
Really? That doesn't sound worthy of a kick. It's something you talk to your players about. Also the group seemed pretty sentimental when Mercer did the whole shtick with Tiberius cleaning out his belongings.
Is there a screencap of the reddit post you spoke of somewhere?

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>>48198786
pic related, but imma be honest, I'm intrigued what it'd be like.

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>>48201943
I think he actually is a cancer patient.

>>48201755
>hating on Frank Miller
It's sure pleb over here.

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>Think he's just a normal, albeit grumpy, guy
>find out 3 Sessions later that he runs a vicious protection racket and has organised mass gang rapes against the families of anyone who doesn't pay

>>48207259

9/11.

>>48220041
Yeah, there wasn't a whole lot of room to act Wesley Crusher into an interesting character. The only thing keeping him from meeting the literal definition of a gary stu is that he wasn't added in via fanfiction.

I could see how being involved in something like that could screw a kid up, though.

>>48199220
Top kek

So what I gather from the episodes of Crit Role I've seen of the players Percy and Grog are the best roleplayers? I really like Matt Mercer but i agree that Keyleth tries too hard and fails miserable to act.

>>48198786
The entire cast of Critical Role save Grog, Matt, and Oberyn or whatever the dragon guy was called.

the rest are all shitters, some literally

>>48218333
He belive that the gm is there to kill his players

>>48220032
Hi Louis

>>48216083
I first saw her in that musical with Neal Patrick Harris and Castle, hated her character a lot.
Then she started showing up in stuff related to my hobbies and it turns out she's an massive attention whore and for whatever reason really well liked among "normie" nerds who m'lady her like she knows they exist, which makes her even more insufferable.

>>48201755
The older he get the more he looks like one of his creations.

>>48198786
>People who don't want to have fun
>SJWs
>Rules lawyers
>Devil's advocates
>Furries/Ponies/Whatever the current fetish dressed up as a fad is.

I actually have held tables with all of the above and literally had to move.

>>48221560
You've clearly not been paying attention to Sam.

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I played games with a bunch of literal fascists before. They were bretty gud. Honestly less racist than normal people back in Queensland and less cringey than my uni group. They all had the exact same haircut though and that bugged the shit out of me.

Also kept changing my background to fashy memes and changing my ringtone to Horst Wessel Lied while I was in the bathroom.

>>48221560
You enjoyed Orion's bullshit? Talk about bad opinions

>>48202952
>Steven Hawking can't speak either, and nobody would question his intellect
He can't understand why half of America supports Trump so can't be that bright.

>>48202567
What the fuck did fucking Rasputin do to tabletop gaming?

>>48199193
Every few sessions he would scrap his character and start a new one.

>>48220123
He's also been shown trying to metagame throughout the show (trying to get very specific anti-vampire stuff when he failed on his check to know what a vampire is truly weak to), gotten pretty drunk/loud on camera (they do a shift in seating where Taliesin goes between Marisha and Orion around the time they get back to Emon because he kept invading her personal space when the situation/scene didn't call for it), and was trying to make his character more important than he actually was (trying to call in a platoon of a foreign army to solve the vampire problem).

If you go back and look/think it over, you start to see just how cringy he was. And now he's tried to do his own thing with his character, but it's pretty bad from what I've heard/seen.

>>48216206
It would all pay off when he feeds someone a toilet pizza.

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>>48220598
>Hawking in a Dreadnaught
Yes please

>>48221486
Keep in mind that they originally came over from Pathfinder, and Keyleth had a Charisma score of 6. She got a +2 from porting over to 5e, and her headband/circlet is something that gives another +2.

So if you keep that it mind it sort of makes sense that she's so cringe-worthy, and Marisha herself has said Keyleth is almost the exact opposite of her personality-wise.

Taliesin (the guy who plays Percy) sometimes metagames and tries to insert his character in certain situations that isn't called for, but he usually very quickly corrects himself. The character himself is played quite well (a guy immersed in self-loathing who invented/discovered guns and gunpowder and knows just how horrible his creation is and is trying hard to not let anyone else do the same).

Travis (the guy who plays Grog) originally just wanted to play a big, dumb, strong dude, but showed and evolved the character to prove that even big, dumb, meatheads can have important, roleplay moments.

Sam (who plays Scanlan) has probably grown the most on camera, going from comic relief into a pretty serious character while still maintaining his role of the "butt monkey" of the group.

>>48221902

Where can I find this group?

>>48220227
He was a D&D player wasn't he? I know he liked video games. One of his daughters is named after Zelda.

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She keeps on fudging her rolls.

Also the most hilarious gif I've seen in this wretched campaign cycle.

>>48220227
I would fucking LOVE to game with Robin Williams.

I'd hate to game with Vin Diesel. He's a cool guy and I'm happy that he's such a strong advocate for fantasy media in general, every buddy cop script that gets scrapped for a dragon-and-princess adventure is a victory, but I feel like he's just built up too much persona to be a chill regular dude at a table. He'd be mildly intimidating, but worse than that he just isn't approachable - even when he's TRYING to be.

>>48222270
>fudging her rolls
That's one way to say; "Cheats like a bitch, lets other players die because their character has something she wants for her character, pretends she was never in a position to save that player, lies to the police so they end up having to interrogate the entire gaming group and keeps trying to bribe the GM for special favours... and gets them," sure.

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>>48207259
he look a bit better now

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Just tell him it's the screen test for LXG2.

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>>48222318
Sounds about right. How about this guy as the DM? If he cuts out the rambling it might not be too bad.

>>48221486
Technically Grog is the best, but his self-imposed range limit of Big Dumb Barbarian cuts him off a lot. I think it's a really unfortunate choice because he's an intelligent well-spoken guy with a good head for tactics and better situational awareness than all the girls put together (they do try, yes even Marisha, but they are still girl-clumsy) and you can see him strain a little bit when he hits that "you're too stupid for this" wall. Everyone at the table is smart (even the girls) but he's probably the most D&D smart, playing the least D&D smart character, it's frustrating to watch.

Scanlan is probably the best at being a D&D character after Grog. He has a dynamic character that he doesn't overplay, and unlike Grog he can make full use of his abilities as a player, which makes him consistently entertaining and effective as a character.

Percy's really solid, but not standout. Vex is really standout, but she's shaky, she needs her bear or her brother or clear teammate-given objectives to shine.

Tiberius was always shit, I don't know why anyone ever liked him. Orion tries so fucking overhard it's not funny and his inability to match the group is agony.

Keyleth is Charisma 6, and like all Charisma 6 characters played accurately, it's a bad idea and grates after a while. Fans don't like her because she's deliberately being intolerable, not because she's a shit roleplayer. What she lacks is either awareness or interest of how she reads to an audience, she's there for the group and not the camera. Everybody else panders to the camera at least a little (this is correct to do).

Vax is comfortable in the metagame and pushes the edges of the group's style, which is not "cheating like a nigger," it's just belonging to a different tradition. He'd be right at home at many tables and his roleplay is fine, but he's not a great fit for Mercer's group.

Pike is "bad" but in the friend-who-loves-to-be-there-but-isn't-a-good-roleplayer way. It's forgivable.

>>48222378
>Keyleth is Charisma 6, and like all Charisma 6 characters played accurately, it's a bad idea and grates after a while.
Except she's not Charisma 6, she's Charisma 10.

And she's played like she's Charisma 3.

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This would probably end badly.

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>>48201488
Surely this is a jape, knave

>>48216206
I wouldn't want him to GM, but he seems like he'd be an entertaining player.

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As soon as the miniatures and dice come out, the hunt begins.

>>48222392
WAS Charisma 6. Playing for 9 levels at Mercer's leveling speed at Charisma 6 probably locked it in for her. God knows no other player in the entirety of roleplaying history has been able to accurately model a +4 mental stat shift, so I don't think there's anything to pick on there.

Charisma 3 is either a tree that occasionally moves, but not in a cute Disney way that becomes endearing, or some kind of foaming goblin asshole.

It's Charisma 6. It's bad in any case, but I guess I'm unconvinced it's bad in any important sense - Critical Role is voyeurism much more than it is theater and I have a hard time faulting failure-to-entertain - so long as the group likes her, which they mostly do. Orion obviously too much, given the touching and the votekick and that they're not friends on social media any more; there are undoubtedly many reasons he was dropped but groping after the DM's girlfriend is deep retarded.

>>48222446
>groping after the DM's girlfriend is deep retarded
By that logic, Taliesin's next. They're all over each other pretty regularly.

And i'm afraid I have to disagree with the 'nobody ever managed to pull off a stat shift of +/- 4' because that sounds like complete bullshit, you raging white knight.

>>48222472
It's the EACH OTHER part that shields Taliesin. Maybe they're just great friends with good history, maybe that's just what Marisha tells Matt, but either way they're mutually happy together - Orion/Marisha became one-way real fucking fast. And as noted there were a lot of things contributing, I just think that was definitely one.

>And i'm afraid I have to disagree with the 'nobody ever managed to pull off a stat shift of +/- 4' because that sounds like complete bullshit, you raging white knight.

Don't be a cunt, you know it's true. You could have the goddamn lich-kings of the Globe Theatre for players and they still couldn't do +4. -4 is easy-peasy but no one at any table has ever done it the other way with success. No one even agrees on what those ratings look like (is Int 10 as smart as an average person today, as smart as an average peasant, or <variable fantasy comparison inserts here>? How much does +1 Int change your IQ? What roleplaying factors does Int even control, where does Int end and Wisdom begin, is eloquence a function of Intelligence or Charisma...) let alone what a +4 shift represents.

Irrelevant anyway, Marisha is a solid Cha 6, it's just that a solid Cha 6 is pretty close to unbearable over a much, much, much shorter timeline than Critical Role.

>>48222446
Had a game where I got hit with some magical disease from Book of Vile Darkness that gave me a larger head and a +4 to my Int. as a half-hour rogue in 3.5 DnD, went from a wide-ranging, street smarts dude to the beginnings of Batman-esque shit (went from a 12 to a 16) and started to try and direct the party in battle as best I could.

Unfortunately the rest were so lolrandumb that they started splashing that magical disease around, hoping to get lucky on the RNG table and instead killed their characters.

I tried to avoid it as best I could, which I think karma rewarded me for by not killing my dude outright. Got a new hair color, gained a bit of AC thanks to natural armor, and grew a vestigial tail, but that was it.

Just... don't use Book of Vile Darkness stuff ever, it makes games very dark and gritty for no reason.

>>48222472
The main thing with Marisha and Taliesin when they get touchy-feely is that it is implied to be Keyleth doing the touchy-feely moment with Percy, and they only do it for like 3 seconds at most to convey the emotion of the scene.

Keep in mind that most of the cast were theatre kids before becoming voice actors, and good theatre actors know when to draw the line between being touchy-feely for a scene and when it starts to invade on that person's personal space.

In-game I think Keyleth just thinks of Percy as a good friend and companion she can trust, even if they disagree on certain things.

>>48222303
>He'd be mildly intimidating
Surely you jest. Vin Diesel has built a very specific brand for himself when it comes to movie roles, but whenever he shows himself off set he's one of the least intimidating people imaginable.

>>48202898
TB's techpriest was pretty good while the campaign lasted.

>>48202815
>your favourite system is shit and my favourite system is better
>you introduced me to roleplaying, but you're stupid and a bad roleplayer
These can be legitimate statements though. The people who introduced me to roleplaying refuse to play anything other than PF, and some really only play mary sues and munchkin the fuck out of everything.

>>48212449
Liam seems like he's deliberately playing a complete edgelord at this point. When not in-character he's pretty chilled out and relaxed.

>>48218056
>>48217842
He knew how to powergame, he didn't know how to do it and not make it obvious he was doing it.

>>48219985
>Or how about when Mercer went on Reddit and posted (and since deleted) about a player cheating and not being welcome at the table right when Orion stopped appearing on the show.
Pics?

>>48222378
>and you can see him strain a little bit when he hits that "you're too stupid for this" wall
I've actually seen that.

Where the rest of the party is arguing over how to proceed, and if you take your attention off whoever's arguing and onto him, you can see he's visibly bored if not facepalming or clearly groaning internally at people being stupid.

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He's all like "emancipate the kobolds."

And we're all like "dude, shut up man."

And so he's then all "split the loot equally."

And we're all like "Marx, fuck off man."

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>>48202735

>>48222303
Take a look at this to see how he is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLEMb_RIZ3o

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Would you people play with me?____________

>>48224227

Awh, he's like a really nervous puppy. cute!

>>48223184
Revolutionary socialist and communist theorists would be fun to play with, democratic socialist theorists would be boring as fuck to play with.

I mean, who really gives a shit about what happens after the revolution

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>>48225864

>>48199193
Did Bowie always have one pupil massively larger than the other or is it just the drugs he was inevitably busted for taking?

>>48226018
One eye was permanently dilated, yes. Another kid punched him at school during a fight over a girl and accidentally sliced it with a fingernail.

>>48202034
Aka InsaneGuyofDoom

>>48221956
This

>>48202522
Agreed. Forgotten Realms? More like Magical Realm!

>>48202980
Actually, if an (adult) autist actually has above average intelligence, they'll be so high functioning you won't be able to tell.
If they're giving up basic abilities, they are low functioning and therefore retarded socially and mentally.

>>48216354
May she rot in Hell.

>>48222237
Nintendo named zelda after her.

>>48214134
>Fighter thinks she's a monster because she can't have children.
>Makes a point to kill at least one character when he DMs for "drama"

>>48225875
Come on, Nietzsche would be a munchkin who kills everyone else's characters for being failed philosophers who an never become ubermenschen.

>>48201989
Stay mad

>>48198786
My ex DM

>>48198786
Pic related would probably just make mary-sue self-inserts, which, considering who it is, would either be greatest or worst thing ever. There would be no middle ground.

>>48201696
This wins, how this man still has jobs lined up with DC is beyond me.

>>48201885
>Not knowing who David Bowie is
Dude, I'm in my 20s and even I know who he is. Fucking educate yourself.

>>48215716
>Not liking /pol/ = reddit
Not them but you imply I cannot dislike both

>>48222358
The weird thing is I can kind of see this, it would entertaining at least.

>>48198786
97% of /tg/, and 100% of /v/.

>>48214107
The only actual good characters were the NPCs and Gorion. Also, maybe the bard or whatever.

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>>48229440
Forgot the image, I am become retard.

>>48222610
>>48222610
>it makes games very dark and gritty for no reason.
Making things dark and gritty _is_ the reason you'd use BoVD.

>>48224227
What edition do they play?

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>>48201755
I mistaked him for Fred Phelps at first. It still kinda works.

>>48209498
Cringey as fuck Mary Sue.

>>48230195
D&D 5th Edition

>>48224536
That whole game was kind of clunky and awkward desu. Vin is pretty chill when you get to know him. He's kind of shy about having the games over at his place sometimes though. Over the top kind of host, always packed up on the good snacks and drinks of everyones choosing.

But damn can that guy play a fucking ranger like nobody elses business.

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>>48223184
>Ask Marx what class he wants to be
>Table gets flipped

>>48216354
See
>>48201696

>>48221821
>devil's advocates

Care to explain what you mean by that? I'm not sure I understand it in a tabletop context.

>>48231087
Not the guy you're responding to, but I'm guessing in this context it means someone who's habitually contrarian even when not appropriate, treating the most baby-kicking evil villains like misunderstood victims.

>>48216354
I wouldn't mind having her as a player.
I don't really get why she is so hated

>>48231163
Okay I'm tracking then.

>>48225875
That is surprisingly well done

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>>48198786
probably would not want him as a DM but he would probably be an entertaining PC

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GoT is always a red flag for me so i would never go anywhere near a game he's running

>>48231972
He'd somehow find a way to TPK everyone during session 0

>>48231972
>>48232298
So, Traveller?

>>48222109
why is any of that wrong though, I thought it was a game of pretend

>>48232432
If you can't figure out how metagaming is disrespectful to the DM and your fellow party members, you probably don't belong here, anon.

>>48232537
I doubt anyone is autistic enough to care

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>>48198786

>>48232385
please dont sully Traveller's good name by associating it with that corpulent round gnome

>>48230856
>Implying you've played with Vin Diesel
Pics or it didn't happen

>>48232792
Now that you mention it, he does have a sci-fi series...

>>48222011
Given his apparent slide into partial insanity due to being unable to distinguish between his on- and off-stage personas, he would start playing something then end up in a horrific accident because he thought he could fly or something.

>>48232888
good god no

>>48199193
Holy shit, I live near there.

>>48230856
here's your (You), liar

>>48215510
So, like the relationship between Da'eshcetera and young european muslims then?

>>48202686
hahahaha fucker!

>>48232569
Except the non-autistic people in the group kicked him for those very reasons. You're the one with autism, friend.

>>48232888
Actually, GRRM writes almost exclusively science-fiction, but in his own words, the only difference between sci-fi and fantasy is "furniture."

>>48233286
You mean the autistic people in the group. The non-autistic people in the group wouldn't notice anything weird.

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Doesn't know the rules, can't roleplay, keeps shouting "HELL IS REAL" in German

>>48233302
Huh, I only knew one, way before the Fire and Ice craze.

Tuf Voyaging, if anyone cares. Not bad, if terribly awkwardly written. Everyone speaks in purple prose and delivers exposition all the time.

Should I look into more of his stuff? Did it get better over the last 30 years?

>>48222237
>>48227800
The first anon was right, actually.

The story as I heard it is that he OD'd on something and realized he needed to stay awake all night or he might die, so he asked his wife to go out and buy him something to help him stay awake.

Some salesman recommended an NES with the original Legend of Zelda, it worked and he lived, and so he named his daughter Zelda.

>>48202533
take a trip around the candlekeep to see the opposite asswipe

>>48222378
>>48221486
>>48222166
Sam Riegel (playing Scanlan the gnome bard) is far and away the best RPer, even better than Travis(Grog).

Sometimes Travis oversteps his character's mental faculties, and he got a little embarrassing trying too hard during the Kevdak episode.

Sam is just 100% on-point at all times. He never does things that are out of character or metagaming, and he goes above and beyond with his improv singing. While other players are spending their time in town to buy potions and equipment, Scanlan goes nonmagical hat shopping or commissions a massive painting of himself.

Liam would be good if he had any self-awareness. He's complained multiple times about other players trying to perform "guitar solos" when he himself constantly scouts ahead of the party and goes on self-serving tangents.

>>48239633
>Sometimes Travis oversteps his character's mental faculties
To be fair, this is partly because Travis is probably pretty easily the smartest person in the whole group. If he had higher intelligence to work with, I don't think you'd notice the strain as much.

>>48233845
jesus, i don't
no
just
no

>>48233601
No. He's still a dirty hippy.

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Here's my vote. Love his music and some of his movies, but he would probably be fucking awful to play with.

>>48239658
True, but even if Travis played a smarter character, I don't think he could match Sam's roleplaying.

I think one of the worst parts about Marisha is that her character has 22 wisdom and she plays it as 6.

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He's basically the tumblriest man alive. Unbearable, on top of Dungeon World being a horribly inspired rip off. Acts like this RPG master but never even knows the rules of any of the games he runs or plays.

>>48239747
A lot of the time she thinks she's giving insightful advice but since she as a person has none to offer it's hard to convey. Kind of the problem with high mental stat characters sometimes.

>>48215769
The newest are top. But yes as far as I can tell, you're reading in reverse

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>>48239765
Every man with a nose ring should be pulled apart between two trucks.

Actually, every woman too.

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>>48239711
YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH.
Jack would be top tier.

>>48226400
Apparently they still somehow managed to remain friends after the incident too.

>>48222378
>Keyleth is Charisma 6, and like all Charisma 6 characters, they should not even have been allowed to be made

I don't see why you're defending someone who willingly chose to roleplay an annoying character

>>48239833
Difficult to tell, actually. If we go by some of his stuff, he might end up being a lolsorandumb That Guy, but he might equally end up being a top-tier, mostly mild comic relief player with some insanely good bits of emotionally touching serious RP.

>>48239823
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SbAD6eXlpE

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>we must save the goblins and undead because of reasons

>>48202686
B R U H
R
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He'd probably be incredibly dry and boring.

>>48222440
your siamese is bretty fugly senpai

>>48233845
top fucking kek

>>48239980
>give up your loot and your stronghold for these displaced goblinoids
>give them your wives and daughters while you're at it

>>48231811
>plays a character wearing a disguise for most of the campaign
>reaches the BBEG, takes off the disguise

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG AUSTIN

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As DM
>the story would be good until we have to get on a boat and it would never fucking finish and it will be filled to the brim with rape.
As player
>Will probably create a loli witch modeled on his IDOLM@STER waifu.

>>48215841

I liked her years ago, but fuck did she ever work hard getting me to hate her. Wil Wheaton, too.

>>48216354

Love her as a writer and philosopher, would be cool to have hung out with her at her old NYC salons, but yeah she strikes me as five flavors of That Guy roles into one.

Alan Greenspan's autobiography has some funny stories about her.

>>48222270
>>48222318

I used to work in DC and even among her own employees she has a shit reputation as a person. Just plain assholishness, arrogant, constant temper tantrums. Yeah it's all for a good cause, but no fucking way would I hang out with her for fun.

>>48222358

Total opposite, evil guy but everyone agrees he's awesome to hang out with. He has four traits of a great DM: he can improvise, he's entertaining, unpredictable, and naturally stays in charge of his group. Also a guy who worked with him says he has a mind like a calculator, even though it doesn't show.

>>48223184
>Then becomes king
>Genocide on kobolds
>Spends his time hoarding loot and raping peasant girls

A real according-to-Hoyle Marxist would actually be pretty fucking perfect in the right kind of campaign.

>>48230856

Not saying this guy is for real, but it does match with what I've heard.

>>48232848
>>48233053
>>48240982

I am not going to bother one of my friends to appease you. Thats a dick move, he likes his privacy too and besides how much it sucks to already, constantly, have cameras in your face.

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> Ooops I deleted my army list before you could read it, you'll just have to take my word for it, that mage has the dispel scroll.

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>>48220402
Why is he so photogenic?

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>>48198786
The group of lawyers from around the city I play Magic with every other Wednesday evening. It's great for socializing, networking and stuff, but Jesus fucking Christ, I'd rather drown myself in Tapir piss than play anything that's not as strictly regulated as Magic with those guys.

>>48243651
Varg is living the (viking) life right now. On his farm with his Aryan wife and kids.

>>48214134

He based Firefly on a Traveller game he played in when he was in college. Good writer, but a little TOO good: everyone was fast to adopt his quirks and so now he's a cliche. It's not really his fault, he's a victim of his own success.

And that's the politics, too. Radical feminist campus fascism is on the march. To some extent he's even become a target of it. Revolutions eat their own. I think if his mom hadn't been a political activist, and if he hadn't lost her so young, he'd have been much less self-consciously political. I don't know if that would have helped or hurt his career.

As a gamer, I've heard that he doesn't really like board games or RPGs with lots of heavy mechanics. But for his fun time he likes to do dramatic readings and other artsy stuff. So RPGs might be a little beneath him, so to speak.

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>>48243866
>playing magic with actual lawyers

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>Percy literally carries around a scary raven mask and a raven skull amulet
>Taliesin is a gothfag edgelord
>Vax gets the raven armor
Liam is the worst.
>Taliesin recognizes that his shtick has been taken
>Percy gives Vax the mask and amulet
>Liam doesn't even pay attention
>probably didn't even add them to his sheet
The fucking worst.

>>48243953
I get that a lot, but it's actually not so bad. The group has been going for around 15 years or so from what I gathered and most issues have already been discussed and nearly all ambiguous rules have been interpreted via consensus.

>>48244033

I believe it, but it's hard not to picture hour long debates about the word target and shit along those lines.

>>48215433
> every post I dont like is /pol/ and you are literally Super Saiyan Hitler.

/pol/ like's /tg/ by the way.

>>48244173
We know, because every thread that gets derailed by /pol/shit is ignored by mods.

>>48202595
Yeah, I met him once. The faggot is just a demi-lich pretending to be a real lich. Massive disappointment. Left and never went back.

>>48244198
/pol/fags might be subhuman, but at least they can create amusing content. /tumblr/fags just whine about everything.

>>48244398
No, they don't create content at all, they just argue pointless shit that isn't /tg/.

Quests and Weekend Smut Threads were more /tg/ than the crap that currently is plastered over half the fucking threads on /tg/ now.

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>>48244442
Then it's clearly your moral obligation to educate those shitlords. I mean, they are on the wrong side of history after all.

Either that or whine about how you don't like what they say and shit up this thread with your bitching.

>>48220209
She's a solid actress honestly. I'm not sure she is when the camera is off, but if she can chill and not hog the attention I'd be down.

>>48222378
>I don't know why anyone ever liked him
Orion played the low Wis character well.
>"Hello I'm Key--"
"Hello, I'm Tiberius Stormwind, how do you do?"

The problem, as others have said, is that he powergamed far too hard, often to the point where he ignored his low Wis and did smart things anyway. Like forcing that arrow into the trap mechanism.

Early into the show, he does come off as someone who is attempting to RP. When it was just him and Grog doing easily-noticed voices the whole time, he was very likeable. Once Scanlan and Percy started stepping up and his powergaming became apparent when the dice came out, then he slipped from favor.

>>48222517
>Orion/Marisha became one-way real fucking fast
This is true, but Marisha would often drape an arm over Orion early on, which he clearly enjoyed.

I'm not entirely convinced that Marisha realizes that she's close to a solid 10/10. and if you'll take anecdotal evidence, I've known women like that. Not 10s, but solid 7 or 8s who had been raised in a small town, dressed like it was the 50s, and very simply did not realize they were beautiful because no one had ever actually told them, nor had they ever seriously dated anyone. That's what happens when you go to uni in Texas.

Orion was dumb for getting ideas, but Marisha is also guilty, even if she didn't realize.

>>48198786
Crossfitters.
I've played with vegans and transsexuals, but crossfit is where I draw the fucking line.

>>48222303
>intimidating
I actually met Vin Diesel and he's anything but. Maybe he wasn't on a cycle at the moment, but he looked flabby and kinda short.
The most intimidating thing about him is his bald head and beady eyes that would make the eternal anglo proud.

>>48244971
kek

I saw the first crossfiter at the gym a few weeks ago. Thought he was having a seizure there, spazzing on the pull up bar.

>>48245019
Vin isn't intimidating like, when you talk to him. He's the happiest, nicest guy you could ever meet.

It's just that he looks like an angry club bouncer when he wants to, which throws people a little.

But yeah, I've seen him a few times at ComiCon, and he's literally never not smiling.

>>48231169
>I don't really get why she is so hated
Objectivism is like monotheism. It exists, and so all other philosophy is false, or so the believer sees the world.

It's not even what Nietzsche argued, which was rooted in the Greeks who rooted much of their thinking in the "pre-spook" world, if you'll pardon the meme. Their reasoning is coming from the Book of Nature essentially, that was is in nature and how man exists naturally is a model for the world.

Objectivism takes parts of that, but refuses to allow alternatives.
>"hey we're doing to be airstriking these targets, which are unpleasantly close to civilian populations, isn't that a problem?"
To which the Objectivist responds
>"everyone is responsible for themselves, and those civilians are responsible for their own safety. If there are civilian casualties it's their fault."

>>48231972
Something tells me you've never read ASoIaF, nor watched GoT, yet hate them both equally because of normies at work or college.

>>48215769
By default they are ordered "Best" so whatever got the most upvotes. That is dumb, but you can order them by Older and they go from first to last, but as conversations rather than a continuous stream, it's the same way I browse 4chan with inline replies.

>>48243988
I like to think of Vax and Percy as the blue oni red oni of the group. They both have that main character quality and now that they both have this raven thing going on it makes them even more parallel.

Although it does really feel like it was made for Percy and it sounded like Percy knew it. This became all the more difficult to watch since, at the time, one table in the party was getting all the loot while the other was only getting whatever scraps the other table didn't want, and they seemed aware of it. Then Vax slaps Percy, and although it was because he stumbled into a trap that got Vex killed, the whole magic item situation made me feel really bad for Taliesin. He tried to take something he knew was meant for him, in a time when he lost his main weapon and Vax/Vex were getting all the loot, and Vax/Vex took it from him and slapped him in the face.

It's rough being Percy.

>>48250638
This. And then Liam has the nerve to complain about Taliesin performing a "guitar solo".

>>48244817
>Orion played the low Wis character well.

Because he's a low WIS person. Just like Keyleth/Marisha. She's not "playing someone with low Charisma," she has genuinely poor social skills.

Orion did some things well, and some things really well, but he also did a lot of things really poorly. In the end, he was dragging down the mood of the group, and it was to everyone's benefit that they split ways.

In a perfect world, he would have reformed himself and all that would be left were his good traits, and he could have stayed, but the problems were rooted too deeply to be reasonably resolved by a group of people who were already tired of his shit.

It's sad watching the carpet throwback video and seeing him playing happily with everyone else.

>>48250638
Let's not forget about the whole emo-Vax arc after he got the armor, probably the cringiest thing on the whole show.

>>48251124
>multiple people drill into Vax that death is a normal part of life and that TRQ isn't evil
>vax: waaaah

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>>48250878

haven't watched critical role since like episode 20 or something like that, they were investigating a rakasha and orion was metagaming extremely hard (I think he cast a spell at it, mercer described how it didn't have any effect on the rakasha then orion remembered about the spell immunity and went something like "Oh I don't do that then i do this instead" despite it already having happened in game)

and I frankly was sick of that awkward shit were mercer silently glares at orion while everyone else in the party tries their best to ignore him trying to be the protagonist and trying to powergame while they're just having fun

so fuck orion. probably won't pick up critical role again because I can't be arsed and it sounds like it has more problems now than ever but I was looking forward to watching it without orion

his behavior during that beholder fight drove me nuts, if he had been at my table I would have kicked him out

>>48251317
Yeah, made me hate him more than Keyleth, and I didn't though that was possible. Guess they're made for each other.

>>48251528
>probably won't pick up critical role again because I can't be arsed and it sounds like it has more problems now than ever but I was looking forward to watching it without orion
It's worth watching for Scanlan. Sam is a god.

>>48251124
>>48251317
>>48251568
>>48251577
who is still on critical role? i know that orion is long gone and ashley johnson is gone most of the time too right?

so it's only liam/laura/travis/talesin/marisha/ sam?

>>48251659
Yep. Ashley comes back between seasons of the TV show she's a part of in NY.

>>48231169

Because it's associated with libertarians and free markets. Socialists and other statists see it as a threat.

It's also aggressively atheist, but while the evangelicals I know disagree with her, there's no drooling hate and contempt like you get with liberals. People on the left seem to go out of their way to hate on her like she's Sarah Palin, Donald Trump, or Clarence Thomas.

>>48239904
I don't see how that's defending her

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>>48198786
the guy who got banned in this image.

>>48250685
When did that happen?

>>48202952
Stephen Hawking has been dead for years. The machine his corpse is strapped to is the real scientist.

>>48252654
At one point early on, Liam said to Orion that "you can't play a guitar solo every turn" because of how he took so long with his turns.

Fast forward to the scene where Percy visits the temple of the Raven Queen, and you'll see Liam pantomime performing a guitar solo when Taliesin isn't looking.

>>48239765
I haven't seen anything wrong with his DMing/playing on Rollplay. There are worse people on the shows. Did he blow it on an episode I haven't seen?

>>48251577
Sam seriously is the best at the table. Good handle on keeping meta out of the game, staying in character consistently, being enjoyable to watch, can pull of vulgar humor without it getting awkward, knows when and when not to use levity and when to not, and the fantastic character arc Scanlan has taken. Sam a best.

>>48222378
>Keyleth is Charisma 6
Keyleth is at Charisma 10 now. With the 5e Half-Elf bonus to chr and the headband she's got (+2 to wis and chr) she shouldn't be acting like that anymore.

>>48245141
That just shows how little you understand Objectivism. I will grant you that Rand was a nutcase who acted as a sect leader a lot of the time, and that many people involved in the official Objectivist movement act like it actually is a sect, but your description of an Objectivist solution to a moral dilemma is outright false.

>>48201696
This. Definitely this.

>>48252530
Fuck anime.

>>48254839
>you're wrong for reason
dude come the fuck on
wikipedia won't explain what objectivism is and I've never met anyone who actually seemed like they could understand books and had read Rand.

>>48244914
>I'm not entirely convinced that Marisha realizes that she's close to a solid 10/10.
>Marisha
>10/10
I know 4chan neets have low standards, but that's hilarious.

>>48243988
>>48250638
Kind of weird, since Taliesin seems to hate being in the spotlight, he doesn't really do well with it. You can see him straining during the Briarwood arc and wanting to go back into the background even though he had to take charge.

And then after Travis had his arc with Kevdak and was relaxed/ready to go back to straightforward melee stuff, I think Taliesin made a comment like "yeah, that's how the spotlight feels when you're in it".

>>48255603
post a 10

>>48255620
>Taliesin seems to hate being in the spotlight, he doesn't really do well with it
I sort of dislike that about him, I think.

He's one of the most reasonable, charming and willing-to-compromise in the whole group, but everyone else wants their moment in the sun and so they consistently push him to the back of the line.

And because he's non-confrontational, sweet and obliging OOC, he lets them. Even when it would make more sense to go along with what he suggests. When Vax mistreats him, because he's a self-hating goth he says he deserves it. When he and Marisha disagree when she's wrong, he doesn't press the issue and lets her keep feeling like she's in the right.

I can't help feeling things would be so much better if he just grew a damn spine and started to lead.

>>48255634
I dunno, she consistently has this dead-fish expression that fails to convey any emotion at all.

You might like to go to the dockside market to pick out some choice catch to fuck, but it really puts me off.

>>48255656
>when she's wrong
Which is ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

See: Clasp.

>>48255656
>He's one of the most reasonable, charming and willing-to-compromise in the whole group, but everyone else wants their moment in the sun and so they consistently push him to the back of the line.
That thing during Scanlan's daughter getting arrested and Percy "helping" get her out of jail was magnificent, though.

>>48244914
>10/10
>Marisha
>not Laura when she has hair on one side and starts using her Fullmetal Alchemist Lust voice

Travis is a fucking lucky man and I'm just a tiny bit jealous of him, except not really because he's a fantastic person.

>>48252720
Someone clearly hasn't played apollo justice ace attorney.

You can totally do a six-second guitar solo.

>>48215466
It should really be an underage ban.

But you're getting old. It's like not recognizing Elvis without the make-up.

>>48220937
> Peter just leaves him alone instead of investigating that.