MTG Spoilers

how many hours till full spoilers?

>>48169495
2 hours

>>48169463
Can't read moonrunes

>>48169463
You could give the translation instead of making a comment that is worthless without it, fucker

translation plzz

Power of the Moon
2U
Enchantment
Whenever an opponent casts a spell, sacrifice Power of the Moon and counter that spell.
The moon's sacred warmth calms me. One cannot feel this way under the sun.

>>48169904
I like it.
But I also don't.

>>48169904
Seems kinda meh. Good for helping get delerium I guess, but it's an easily circumvented counterspell.

>>48169904
buying 12 copies. I'm constantly afraid of tapping out, but with that, I'll be under a safe wall against surprise wins

Zur, the Enchanter

>>48169463
Sigarda doesn't interact with this at all.

>>48169463
>>48169858
>>48169874

Power of the Moon
2U
Enchantment

Whenever an opponent casts a spell, sacrifice Power of the Moon and counter that spell.

The moon's sacred warmth calms me. One cannot feel this way under the sun.

>>48170012
Are you kidding me? Literally all they need to do is cast one throw away spell. It's like babby's first baited counterspell

Why would this be busted with sigarda? I don't understand the concern.

>>48169463
Would you consider yourself your opponent?

>>48170159
It wasn't a concern, although I remembered her card wrong. I thought she prevented all sacrifices, instead of opponent instigated ones.

>>48169463
Since the opponent decides which of their spells gets countered, it's a roundabout way of making mono-blue "opponent discards 1 card" with the side effect of also being recurable with, say, Sun Titan. It's also an excuse to use more Bunnyfu art without her being a backround figure in a grimderp scene with more a emo planeswalker in the forefront.

8/10 would buy

>>48170145
This.

While neat, and useful, OG counterspell is better in every way, outside of "I'm not really left handed" double counterspell nonsense. I can see it being full of meta-fuckery in edh, but it's not something you worry about.

Hesitation that doesn't affect you. Seems fine. Fun with Sun Titan.

>>48170174
In the truest sense after misremembering.

>Spells and abilities your opponents control can't cause you to sacrifice permanents.
>SPELLS AND ABILITIES YOUR OPPONENTS CONTROL
>OPPONENTS CONTROL

READ
THE
FUCKING
CARD

YOU
DAFT
VAPID
CUNT

>>48170196
I knew there was a comparison more apt than Standstill

Combos with Starfield of Nix?

>>48170184
Not only do they have to "discard", they have to pay the mana cost of the card they're "discarding".

>>48170201
I'M NOT KOREAN

>>48170247
Frankly if they printed a card that says "target opponent discards a card and must pay its mana cost if able" that would be kind of bitchin, but I don't think the rules can handle that.

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This could be fun for Zada EDH.

>>48170310
I hadn't even thought of that. It also works with the new mirror dragon. Just ping them, repeat it for your entire field of hopefully not 1/1 creatures, and get a mountain of imps.

>>48170310
>Zadragon and several creatures with toughness greater than two
>Make Mischief the dragon
>Slap all your creatures for free devils
>Second harvest that shit

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>>48169463
Looks fun.

>>48170310
Shut up faggot we're still discussing the Korean bunny

>>48170252
>I'M NOT KOREAN
THE TRANSLATION WAS POSTED IN THIS THREAD YOU SLUTTY FUCKNUGGET

>only need 3 cards for my deck so far
>it won't be that expensive to upgrade my standard deck
>Collective Effort
>Heron's Grace Champion
>Thalia
>r-r-right?

>>48170193
>>48170145

What if you tried getting it back every turn with Starfield of Nyx

Can we please get a good, generic sacrificable artifact to search for lands or something?

Something like that would be a huge help with splashing Delirium cards and with getting Emrakul out.

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>>48170470
>help
>getting Emrakul out

>>48169463
Decent enough rattlesnake card/blue delirium enabler in limited I suppose.

>>48170461
What if you tried not sucking ass?

>>48170461
Doesn't a Jace have an emblem that does exactly that 's sort of thing?

>>48170590
>ulting a planeswalker that doesn't result in winning in any format that's not EDH

>>48169463
Would be great if it was a you may or an if effect like Grave Peril.

how many hours till full spoilers?

Do full spoilers really go up midnight

>>48170984
>>48170853
Nah, probably tomorrow at like, 10 am.

>>48170984
No. Wait 11 more hours.

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>mfw I got a box of eldritch moon for $83

I better get the asian bunny

>>48169904

This will see play in Emeria control, what could be more comfy than casting Sun Titan turn recurring this to the field?

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>>48169463
if only it was the counterspell version of pick related. Still, might be fun in a U/W/x edh with sun titan abuse

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>>48171697

>mfw I have an Emeria Control deck
>mfw Eldritch Moon gets released

>>48171945
What are you thinking of cutting for it, and how many will you run?

I'm thinking of running 2-3, cutting a mana leak and a Court Hussar at least

>>48170145
Here's the thing, most new players are going to see this and go "oh man my next spell will get coutnered, now I can't play my spell!" and they'll literally freeze up and not cast ANYTHING for several turns, allowing the control decks to draw into actual counterspells.

It's unplayable garbage, sure, but it's a GREAT teaching tool for people who actually want to learn.

>>48171969

Don't know yet, we'll see: it's exactly what that deck needs though.

>>48170310
I'm surprised they made an actual good card that plops down those devil tokens. Too bad the tokens look gross.
I really want to make a mirrordrag deck now.

Set is pretty shit there is like 5 cards playable outside standard, sont let jewzards get away with this shit set after set, dont buy boxes just buy singles hurt their bottom line and they will stop printing shit

>>48172392
An actual good card? I don't know, man. It seems really situational.

>>48170517
basically this. Card quality doesn't differ as much in a limited deck, so they'll likely have to lose something useful to it, or at least be put off their game plan. So it slows the opponent down, and keeps you at card parity, while getting an enchantment in the yard.

It's fine.

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>>48172441
There are plenty of 1 health things around, at wort you can use it to finish something off post combat. I think the potential to combo with zada and dragon is also real, as silly as it sounds.

>>48170201
Calm down you idiot

>>48172437
Where do you think the singles come from.

>>48172437
star city shill detected

>>48172541
Good luck with your $100 box with $3.50 worth of mythics and one $10 rare, ill just buy the 2 foils i want :^)

>>48170145
It's good to know opponents can cast more than 1 spell during Turn 3 when you drop this.

Man how can /tg/ be so fucking bad at this game, it's too fucking hilarious.

Mausoleum Wanderer is the reason to at least try spirit tribal. An efficient 1 drop beater if it's being pumped every turn, absurd synergy with Rattlechains and the 3 mana "countergiest" (have fun ever casting Languish before turn 6), works super well with Always Watching and thunderclap wyvern (sadly not a spirit). A shame Thunderbreak Wyvern isn't a spirit; I think we're one decent spirit away from a legit deck.

>>48172437
There's like... 8-9 playable outside of Standard with 3-4 potentially playable in Eternal formats, and 1 definitely going to be played in Eternal.

The set is fantastic.

>>48172615
>whenever Power of Moon enters the battlefield, an opponent gets a bait spell and can cast it without paying it's mana cost
That's the errata of the card according to /tg/

>>48172643
which one is eternal guarnteed?

>>48172643

I wouldn't call Thalia "definitely played". DnT will test it, but it's far from an obvious shoe in

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>>48169463
>>48169904
I see what you did there

>>48172621
With Rattlechains isn't Drogskol Captain a cheaper Thunderclap Wyvern?

>>48172668

I was talking about standard, Merfolk is still the stronger aggro-disruptive deck in older formats (cheaper and more plentiful lords).

>>48172662
It's a card that fucks with fetches in a cruel and unprecedented manner. The added bonus of forcing your opponent to play into Wasteland is also relevant. DnT plays enough inferior hatebears that it can slide it in.

The only thing in this sey that will see play outside of standard are the basic lands

Wizards hype shills plz go

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>meanwhile a few months ago

Guise GUISE thing in the ice will be an eternal staple at $20 preorder now!!!!!!

>>48172821
I regret being in hospital for that entire period and was unable to sell it. I even got a promo version.

>>48172748

My gut impression is the mana denial effect is a little slow to be backbreaking, especially on the draw or vialing in. Legacy decks operate pretty smoothly on three lands, delaying a fourth is not usually that relevant if Thalia 2.0 is the only tax.

That said, we'll definitely test it over crusader or some avengers. Its tax is still relevant if not usually backbreaking, it's Legendary for Karakas, isn't an X/1, holds equipment and synergies well with Thalia 1.0 (that 4th+ land is much more relevant then).

>>48172437
>Set is pretty shit
No. No, it really isn't. And some of the cards are really. Fucking. Powerful.

>>48172821
Your lack of memory does yourself disservice.

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>>48169463
It wouldn't be busted anyways. The problem with it is that, rather than you choosing what to counter, your opponent gets to choose what gets countered.

Now, if it were something like "Sacrifice ~: counter target spell", that would make it much worse. Like a counterspell Seal as >>48171735 mentioned.

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>>48172665

Oh fuck right off.

>>48170310

Le shitty d44m fanart

>>48172505
That's a cute demon.

>>48172437
We get that you're stupid, but please go be stupid somewhere else.

>>48172662
>>48172748
DnT?
I can't keep up with all this jargon, I'm getting too old.

>>48173277
>any
counters yours, my point stands

>>48173374
>my point stands

No, I think you'll find it's moving rather quickly along with those goalposts

>>48173398
No it doesn't since Magic has been going "Lets remake old cards and erase the downsides" for several years now. This card is literally just hesitation but it can't backfire and also it's cost reflects the new standard cost for counterspells

>>48173371

DnT aka. Death and Taxes is a mono-white hatebear deck in Legacy. Basically it plays a bunch of creatures and land destruction, tries to slow down the game so its creatures can slowly smack your shit.

http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=104484

>>48173486

*bunch of creatures that also fuck with your opponent's gameplan.

>>48173420

>hesitation
>backfire

Man, I know the meme is '/tg/ is bad at magic', but fuck me.

>>48173512
It's less that and more that when it comes to modern card design, a good rule of thumb is "Assume the cards are made for subhuman intellects" Of course a competent player wouldn't let hesitation backfire (Unless there was something they REALLY needed to cast and even then they'd likely burn a spell to do it) but not everyone's competent

>>48173521

Whether or not that's the case, 'HERF DERF HEARTHSTONE GUIZ AMIRITE' is a facile, and inaccurate, comparison that makes you look more like a bandwagoning jackass than anything else.

>>48173521
>"Assume the cards are made for subhuman intellects"
But /tg/ proves even when you do that, people still won't get it right.

>>48173521
Allowing cards to "backfire" has been the source of every brokenly good card. They just reprinted wheel of fortune with a bolt and char attached after realizing the "backfire" just read "rape each opponents hand, refuel your hand, and then make them pray for salvation.

>>48173654
I wass agreeing with the guy going against herfstone guy, I missed target with my post

>>48173831
What card is that?

>>48174175
cbf to save and upload it
http://mythicspoiler.com/emn/cards/unitedresistance.html

>>48174285
Am I misunderstanding you or do you not know the difference between "draws that many cards" and "draws 7 cards?"

>>48174330
You're misunderstanding >>48173831, yes.
He isn't saying that they literally printed a card with exactly Wheel of Fortune's effect with the addition of a bolt and Char attached.
He means that they printed a card with what is colloquially known as a "Wheel of Fortune effect", with two additional effects similar to Lightning Bolt and Char.
He was also trying to point out that cards like Wheel of Fortune are broken because of the way that they're actually used; i.e. in the original Wheel of Fortune's case, you would use it when you were at 0 cards and your opponent was at 8 and you would both draw 7, but you would gain more benefit.
By removing that "backfire" from the effect, it allows them to print more reasonable versions of it.

>>48174386
Ah, fair enough.
Although I'd argue that in this case its the change from the OG Wheel of Fortune to the new not-draw-7 version that is the main change, removing the "backfire" of wheeling your opponent is almost completely insignificant compared to that.

>>48174386
Newsflash mogreloid:
Wheel of fortune effects are shit

Wheel Of Fortune (the card) is also kinda shit, but can be OK since it can read "draw 7 for 2R", if you cannot grasp this you're thick.

>>48174408
>"One of the best cards ever printed is kinda shit"
>/tg/ is bad at Magic
>No one is surprised

>>48169463
>>48169904

Oh man this baby is just what I need for my Standard Esper Pact deck.

No new spoilers yet?

2x Power of the Moon + Curse of Exaustion + 2x Starfield of Nix it's a complete spell Lockdown.

>>48174631
>infinite cards and mana makes you win

You too

>>48174640
One Starfield of Nix and one Power of the Moon it's enough for any control deck to win the game. Complete spell lockdown shouldn't be a easy thing to aquire.

>>48174617
No, the full spoiler list will be up at 17:00 CEST. We may get a few more before that though.

>>48174672
In standard Dromoka's Command exists and will blow your ass out

In every other format it's too expensive and you'd be better served doing something more better

>>48174631

Why curse of Exhaustion? Why not use Eidolon of Rhetoric? It's cheaper and doesn't die to bolt.

>>48174692

Not the same guy but I play Starfield Pact(Esper Pact) in Standard and Dromoka's Command doesn't do shit against the deck. You play far too many enchantments to even care about sacrificing one enchantment of your choice for that matter, not to mention you can recur them all over again. Once you get the Demonic Pact+Starfield loop going you do effectively lock them out. Of course the thing is you have to survive the early rush by slamming that Languish asap. Worst matchup is RG ramp with Worldbreaker and decks running Nahiri due to their ability to exile your enchantments.

>>48174703
Because it dies to path and affects only the opponent.
I made a deck with thia along with Erayo, so Eidolon would lock me as well.

>>48174688
Thanks.

>>48174741
Admittedly if you play the eidolen last you don't need to worry about paths because of the previously mentioned total spell lockdown.

>>48174408

>'draw seven cards' is 'OK'

I... don't even know what to say to this.

>>48174760
What else can you say?
>/tg/ is bad at magic

>>48174741

How is it going to die to path when you have Power of the Moon out? The spell is going to get countered and they can only cast one spell per turn.

Am I the only one butthurt that they already put emrakul in the moon?

>>48174825
The fact that it stops the lockdown player from doing anything more is a significant disadvantage though.

>>48174868
Yes, you are in fact the only butthurt person on 4chan.

>>48174870

It's not a disadvantage when you have Starfield out and can grab anything from the grave again.

>>48174888
It is not as big of a disadvantage, but it is still a disadvantage.

>>48169463
>>48169904

Modern Esper Zur is a go.

Full reveal when?

Another Spoiler thanks to LotusNoir

Illusionary Decree 1U
Instant (R)
Escalate - U
Choose one or more
• Counter target noncreature spell
• return target creature an opponent controls to it's owners hand
• Draw a card

>>48175099
KRIPTIK
KOMMAND

>>48174938
Are we pretending to be bad at magic again or do you seriously think cancel will be esper a competitive deck

>>48175099
>1UU
>Counter and bounce
>Or counter and Draw
>Or bounce and Draw

Holy fuck Wizards...

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>>48175099
>cantripping negate, or pseudo cryptic command
>or cantripping unsommon

Will definitely see at least Standard play, with how weak the other counterspells are.

>>48175099
>Scatter Arc fell to the powercreep

Oh boy.

>>48170310

WHO /MISCHIEF/ HERE?

>>48175099
Blue and Red are getting so many fun toys this set.

>>48175099
Almost as good as the black escalate.

>>48175149
Technically 1UU and 3U are the same, when you lose a colored symbol in cost it tends to add 2 to the generic.

>>48170201
Too bad you control the trigger.

>>48175337
In practice, unless you're playing 5color goodstuff or you're just splashing blue, you'd much rather have 1UU over 3U.

>>48175099
wait, this is a strictly better negate
what the fuck

>>48175237
UR PROWESS WHERE YOUR ASSES AT?!?!

WE /won/ BOYS

>BEDLAM REVELER
>CURIOUS HOMUNCULUS
>NIBILIS OF FROST
>MERCURIAL GEISTS
>NOW THIS

UR PROWESS PRO TOUR WIN WHEN?

>>48175577
not when Bant CoCo and G/W tokens are around

>>48174408

>wheel of fortune is shit
>as is memory jar

>>48172032
As a new player, no I would not. The only reason I would ever not cast a spell to get rid of this is if I didn't have anything to throw away at it in my hand.

>>48173096
Name two.

>>48175590
BANT SHMANT

PROWESS HYPE

>>48175099
Negate confirmed for too weak for modern

>>48175790
Spell Queller
All Escalate cards
Permeating Mass hue hue
Emracool
Lupine Prototype?
Harmless kitten
Eldritch Evolution

>>48175862
Not him but you should have stopped at the escalate cards.

>>48169858
Moonrunes is japanese.

Bubbleglyphs is korean.

>>48175790

Spell Queller
Escalate Cards
Thalia, Cathar Heretic
Noose Constrictor

>>48175879
I don't think that's true, but from now on I want it to be.

>>48175872
Obvious shitty memeing.

>>48175927
Korean uses an alphabet. It's actually extremely simple because it was invented by one guy because he thought using the Chinese system, a representatice one for a tonal language, was complete bullshit for a language that isn't Chinese. Good choice, because Chinese is one of the greatest clusterfucks of a writing system after Thai.

Japanase uses a syllabary that's actually three different syllabaries and good fucking luck learning when to learn which.

>>48176008

Hiragana = Native words
Katakana = Foreign words and foreign names and names in restaurants

Right?

>>48176008

>when to learn which.

you start with Hiragana, then you learn Katakana which are the same phonemes with different representation, one aimed at native words and the other at foreign words. You can memorize and get proficient at writing both in about one week.

Then you spend 3 years leaning how to write/read Kanji.


Korean has a very slick alphabet, BUT they also use the equivalent of Kanji when they feel like writing in a fancier fashion.

>>48175593
>Jar draws seven
Not an argument
>>48174760
>Not played in vintage
>IE where it is legal
>Because it's not that good
Not an argument
>>48174460
>>48174765
>le memes
>When it's proven to be shit by people playing vintage IE where it is legal to play
Not an argument.


memederns kiddos at it again I see....

>>48175862
If you're definition of "Really. Fucking. Powerful" is might see play in standard, then yeah. I would hope someone dramatically overreacting killer that would be talking about modern playable at least.

>>48176162
>>>

Does a card have to be fucking tarmogoyf to be """playable"""?

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It's up faggots.

>>48176178
none of those card will see modern play except for eldritch evolution and the strictly better negate
maybe some of the escalate cards.

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BEST MADNESS ENABLER

FULL SPOILERS:
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-image-gallery/eldritch-moon

>>48176223
I wouldn't be surprised if spirits turns out to be a viable modern build now.

>>48176245
>No Ludevic
How silly of me to have hope.

>>48176008
Alphabet versus Syllabary is really just semantics.
Japanese/Chinese's problem is >>48176128 the non-syllabary stuff.

>>48176131
>>48176223
This might surprise you, but different formats like different things.

>>48176219
"THE POWER OF SIGARDA COMPELS YOU!"

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>>48176245
Another great G/W card. Fucking Wizards.

>>48176360

Yes. I was about to post this card.

How do you break it /tg/?

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Burn comeback?

>>48176360
Seems the moon beast was a herring after all.

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Is this card as powerful as I think it is?

>>48176413
Pretty good.

>>48176419
10/10, underrated

>>48175099
Lol, you wish

>>48176424
Where were you 2 weeks ago?

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nigger what?

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>>48176335
Weird. Didn't expect an exact reprint in this set

>>48176462

Interesting to see in Red.

>>48176424
>worse Kismet on a decent body
Limited bomb, might see play in Standard, plus the obligatory >muh EDH
It's not next Modern staple or anything.

>>48175500
Negate is literally the worst version of that effect. Are you seriously going to call powercreep when they buff an unplayable card?

>>48176462
>>48176483
LD nerfed to be Modern-acceptable.

>>48176489
It's pretty Legacy playable.

>>48175109
No, Anon, it's Triptik Command.

>>48176462
Good. I like this.

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>>48176360

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Zombie Tribal staple ahoy

>>48176515
SOLDIER STOMPY

>>48176462
Seems like a mid-step to full Land Destruction. I actually like it a lot

>>48176533
All we need now are the zombies.

>>48176517
>>48176502
It's also not in the full spoiler, so you got rused

>>48176489
>decent body
>no fat ass

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shit, i like it

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>>48176544
There's plenty of decent ones in Standard at the moment.

>>48176551
Fat Ass is 5 mana and not worth it even when you're eating.

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Oakenform is black, apparently.

>>48176564
>plenty
Lel

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DAT ART

>>48176567
what I'm saying is thalia needs to be a 2/5½

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SPIRIT TRIBAL CONFIRMED

>>48176569
It's +3/-3, which ironically makes it far more likely to see play.

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So, is this twink gonna get fucked?

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Why is this at uncommon?

Who the fuck would use this?

what the fug

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>>48176607
Oh. Uh. Fuck. You are right. I'm an idiot.

Cool. Solid bit of common removal. I like that effect in red though.

Also, haha, good one Wizards. Nice functional reprint.

>>48176569
>Oakenform
More like Twisted Experiment 2.0.
I wonder if it will ever see play offensively.

>>48176630
>Who the fuck would use this?
Zedruu

>>48176618

The other guy is passing him the joint

>>48176630
It's for Harmless Offering.

>>48176634
I love this. Great card then, great card now.

Too bad the set's so underwhelming.

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>>48176595
http://mythicspoiler.com/emn/cards/mausoleumwanderer.html

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Deliruim value!

>>48176618
Yeah, he gonna get fucked. They're not even being subtle about it.

>>48176618
hot vampire gay sex.

>>48176652
>Enters the battlefield tapped
Wizards still terrified of Eggs they now make extra sure not to accidentally print a combo piece.

>>48176652

that seems like some good fixing.

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>They didn't complete the shadowland cycle

>>48176671
>>48176673
It's a reprint.

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>>48176618
Yes, and it will hurt almost as much as killing your own daughter.

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>>48176671
I'll be honest, I didn't notice that. Still seems like a no brainer in limited. At common too. Star was an uncommon, after all.

I like this guy's design. Red gets pump on attack, white gets butt on attack.

>>48176679

figured as much still seems like good fixing.

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Still sad we got no Ludevic. I do like all the crazy mad science we got though.

>>48176652

>Enters the battlefield tapped

Kill yourself.

>>48176717
its an old ravinca common.

calm down

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>>48176717
Hm? I didn't make the card. Blame Ravnica.

Anyway, this is a nice callback too. It was always funny how those dogs had the same stats as a Siege Elephant.

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>>48176530
Can't tell if better or worst than Viridian Emissary

Eh, probably worse because it can't trade well or be skullclamped in edh

>>48176726
They might have reprinted Chromatic Sphere instead.

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>>48176737
Ha!

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What's up Accorder's Shield? You ready to be flashed in an actually be useful?

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Siege Leech

>>48176716
I still have hope we'll see Ludevic in a supplemental product

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>>48176764
I have no idea how to judge all these Emerge cards. So fucking expensive.

Anyway, more Reach in Red! And I see they are still sticking with "if it is red, it is a shaman" even though it clearly is a wizard.

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>>48176579
>>48176238

>>48176764
At first for some reason I thought that you could cast Emerge cards from the GY

Then when I reread it i was disappointed. Literally Yugioh tributing

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>>48176618

>>48176761
i find it odd they reprinted accorders shield, but changed the name.

Given that mtg's always worried about running out of good card titles you think they would have made the card different.

>>48176737
Basically a 4/3 for three and is still okay without the bonus. Not bad.

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Took me a sec to see it was an instant. Compares fairly favorably to Opportunity and Concentrate.

>>48176784
This it's great in ru

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Love red getting some repeatable mana production.

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>>48176675
but.... kaldesh r/u land will atleast look cool.... right?

>>48176836
Damn I was really hoping this cutie wouldn't flip into some gross edlrazi...

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Look at this cheesy wording.

"Oh, well, if we make it an Enters the Battlefield trigger people will kill it at instant speed in response to the trigger! Let's just have this weird wording that no other card has!".

Imagine all the possibilities. Now you can have any ETB not be respondable.

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>>48176675
>he still thinks allied and enemy lands are a single cycle

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>>48176801

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>>48176866
I want red to get double strike on defense too. What's the point of having all these "making opponent's creatures attack" effects otherwise?

Ah well. Here is a card people will like. Aura people, at least.

>>48176843
No
I wanted Innistrad enemy lands, not pooladesh shadowlands

>>48176892
whats wrong with chandra and poo in the loo rekindling and old flame?

>>48176716
>Under their owners control
Ghostly Flicker was broken it seems

>>48176870
>if we make it a trigger it literally won't even matter
>so we didn't
I don't see the problem?

>>48176903
shitinloolands i think you mean

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I hate and love this flavor text. Also if Wizards is just going to slap flash on all the spirits worth playing, why bother giving Rattlechains the whole, "spirits got flash" thing?

>>48176898
I really wish this was a common. It would be really good in pauper boggles. I might try it in actual boggles too, as a sideboard card for the games I need removal.

>>48176870
>"Let's word this ability so it works as intended!"

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I think they are making a big deal about the number 26 because it vaguely looks like the gryf emblem.

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i like this one

>>48176238
>t2 furyblade vampire
>swing and discard for incorrigible youths

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>>48176914
There's honestly not much instant speed removal in this set. And it is a slippery slope, as most ETBs would be better with this sort of wording.

Anyway, I like this card. Don't mind the drawback.

>>48176962
nah, because it's 13*2 senpai

>>48176985
>swing and discard
>not discard and swing
nigga wtf are you doing

>>48176988
It's a red Macab Waltz!

>>48176997
that's what i mean >:(

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>>48176988
most etbs wouldn't work with that wording though, or would work radically differently. "As long as this entered the battlefield this turn you may return target Aura or Equipment card from your graveyard to your hand."?

>>48176997
>>48177032
desu tho i'm still banking on heir of falkenrath as my 2 drop, flying is just too important if i don't have stensia masquerade down

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>>48176938
You act as though Sorcery speed removal doesn't exist. Shit's a limited only card.

>>48176962
It is 13 twice.

>>48176933
I'm tired of white getting so much flash. The mechanic is GU. White used to get it, but they told us they were moving it away from White.

>>48177061

White gets combat trick flash generally. That creature is an example of it.

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Muh gitrog staple.

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>>48177036
Any of these would.

Sure, shit like Mulldrifter wouldn't, but there are a lot of cards that effect themselves on ETB.

Like this one could easily be "Creatures you control get +2/+2 as long as they entered the battlefield this turn."

JUST CHECK 'ER IN THE FUCKIN' MOON 'EY!

GOT HEAPS OF FUCKIN' SPACE IN THERE!

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>Be Geralf
>Be fighting a shit ton of asshole eldrazi fuckers
>Sister is off at some tomb bumble fucking around
>Really wish I was just at my lab right now stapling knives to zombies as my boyfriend Ludvic makes more dog bots
>Hear a fucking loud cry come from behind me
>Don't even bother turning around
>It keeps wailing
>It won't stop
>None of them ever do
>Don't even bother turning around because I already know what she sent me again
>A fucking 1/3 ghoul just runs by me and flings itself at the tentacle shits
>Barely does fucking anything
>I think the screaming is making me go insane
>That's like the 5th one today
I hate my sister.

>>48177144
>a-at least it's not mommy again

The guy with the ax looks like a disappointed father about to beat his child.

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>>48177144
I love this board.

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>>48177167
I'm retarded and forget the images

I like the emerge fodder they've put into this set. Will be useful in limited at least.

>>48177144
She has the nerf to say she's doing all the heavy lifting too.

>>48176561

>>48175114
Considering that Zur cheats it out when it attacks, it's not cancel. But then again it might not make the cut anyway.

>>48176579
>>48176790
I just want to point our lovely lady in red not just forgot how to swing twice as fast as most people, but just generally faster.
So much for using eternity to master such an exquisite craft.
OR, sense they are both non-legos it implies there is an entire group of red dressed, helix blade wielding vampires.

>>48177144
>ludevic building dogbot
> what do you think geralt?
> what if we staple some knives on it?
>... Shut up geralt.

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>>48177185
Help me out. I only saw some card that distinctly said "Emerge this!".

Oh wait. The 0/3 and the 2/2 for 3 that cantrips. Good call.

I wonder what Emerge cards are worth running in sealed even if you don't have the colors for the emerge cost.

I remember in original Innistrad, they said they were originally wanting to do more scarecrow, but didn't want people confused and assuming it as one of the big tribes (humans, werewolves, zombies, vampires, spirits). Now for
Delirium, we are out the ass in terms of scarecrows.

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>that flavortext
...

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This is good emerge fodder too.

I always liked cards that are human but don't have a class.

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>>48177248
I mean, at least half don't.

I only just started looking but there are some solid commons and uncommons here. Certainly makes up for the lackluster rares and mythics.

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Red is actually getting okayish cards. Oh boy, blue got shafted though.

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>>48176618
hot

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I know we knew about this card, but did Jace leave Liliana with a baby?

Starting to look like were only getting two planeswalkers this set.
At least tamito is decent.

>>48177301
Yes
It was stillborn

>>48177290
Blue had plenty in soi and the bonuses in this set are dandy. Plus that new enchantment is really fucking nice.

>>48177322

It amuses me that planeswalkers are not technically human so Chandra can be told to fuck off with it.

>>48177290
>Only good limited fodder blue got were 3 mana
>When it was already MASSIVELY filled with solid 3 drops from the last set
Fun times

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>>48177322
>non-human source

>>48177243
lashweed lurker is :ok:

>>48177322
> creature specific fog
This is really nice.

>>48177253
Who let this mad man out on the roof?!

>>48177322
Don't you fucking die on me, Grete! We need you to be the UW legend for the next time we come back to inistrad.

>>48176737
>>48176760
That's a pretty cool callback.

>>48177243
>I wonder what Emerge cards are worth running in sealed even if you don't have the colors for the emerge cost.
being 7 mana minimum and mostly 8 mana for stats that donor deserve the price tag, probably not many. the leech, the bug that makes bugs and the flash crab, maybe. even the pig, which should be a stupid bomb, is 10 mana, i don't see how you can realistically expect to play that if you aren't running green.

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I fucking hate spiders, but this one is kinda cool

>>48177336
Oh shit that sounds like some huge spoiler from a future block where planeswalkers are revealed to be literal abominations and the cause for all the problems in the multiverse (not that they weren't already in a way), then all the neowalkers have to die and some plot with the phyrexians happens we go back to when mtg was fun and not avengers.

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This guy is about to blow your minds /tg/

>>48177353

Well, actually, much better, I think. It shuts down /all/ non-human sources. This includes artifacts, burn spells, planeswalkers, etc. for a turn.

>>48177407
Cool if you like garbage I guess

>>48177277
>lackluster rares and mythics
There are a shitload of very good playables in a lot of formats in this set.

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>>48177414
An eldrazi lord at UNCOMMON

what the hell...

>>48177407
I like it waaaaay too much.

>>48177398
Fair. I guess that's the whole point of them. I just would love it they were actually modal.

>>48177385
I always loved those dogs. It was a nice little creature that felt amusingly mundane.

Anyway, how the fuck do you use this? It doesn't pump butts, so it isn't like forcing them to chump is a big deal.

>>48177433
wow it's fucking nothing

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>>48177438
Forgot the pic.

>>48177407
Even if it produced spiders every time on your upkeep it would still be pretty garbage.

>>48177414
>>48177433
That's going to be a Bomb as fuck pull

>>48177452
Nah, it would actually be pretty good in Standard.

>>48177444
nigga it's fucking great for a lord at uncommon.

remember that tokens are everywhere right now.

>>48177414
The value this guy produces is nuts.

>>48177474
they will just ignore him and kill you with flying ghosts or spell queller his bitch ass

>>48177491
It's always a 1-for-1.

>>48177500
have fun doing that when there's a green edict in standard

>>48177506
nigga there's a cursecatcher for spirits now

>>48177470
Yeah I take that back, it would be pretty op for producing on upkeep. As a commander, it's shit. As an include for standard, not terrible.

>>48177502
Oh noooo, I traded my clue for only a 1-for-1 value trade. Whatever will I do!
Nah but really this guy reads "Turn a clue into eldrazi"

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Stop making devils shit, reeeee

>>48177524
Devil tribal never.

>>48177502
So turn two/three you get to drop him and sacrifice that 2/1 weenie you put out turn one for a 3/2 and the 0/3. Sounds good to me.

>>48177514
In EDH it can produce infinite spiders and mana by itself

>>48177524
Shitty Ball Lighting.

>>48177513
Believe me, I'd be happy to see spirits be a thing in standard and modern. Eldrazi just have a lot more going for them though because they're so goddamn aggressive now.

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>>48176795

Sure buddy, Yugioh totally came uo with it first.

>>48177520
Too bad flip side can only sac creatures

>>48177560
You know that Yugioh came out in 96 right?

>>48177545
I was really hoping they would stick it in somewhere.

All I want is an intertwined Demon/Devil/Imp tribal

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>>48177524
I am glad they have an identity now. But the fact that almost every Devil explodes now makes the guy in this flavor text seem really really stupid.

>>48177549
> it produces infinite mana and spiders with an etb effect when it's etb says nothing about mana
Might have to explain yourself friendo

>>48177572
Demons are fatasses that don't know how to be team players. Should be all devils although imps are cool, as another black tribe for them to ignore.

>>48177596
Maybe he means with like a Mana Echoes and Phyrexian Alter or some shit.

>>48177596
Not him, but it can be used as a mana sink for infinite mana combos to wipe tables. Also worth noting because it's loss of life, it can't be fogged.

It's definitely better than Ulrich.

>>48177596
I think he misspoke. The appeal of the spider as a commander is that it, like Oona, serves as a wincon once you have infinite mana, not that it makes infinite mana itself.

>>48177590
>Ludevic hires a bunch of cult members to summon him a shit ton of devils
>To contain them, he had a really deep hole be dug and be filled with nothing but neatly organized things
>Table full of vials
>An Ulvenwald scroll rack
>set of tools in a rusty case
>ect
>All the non-chaotic shit keeps the devils busy as he plucks them out one by one to try and weaponize/upgrade them
>Gives one of them a cannon dick that operates properly
>chops offs the arms of another and replaces them with explosion-powered hook shots
>Installs a boiler into another's chest cavity allowing it to make steam blasts
>Replaces the tail of one with a claw and has it help with construction
>Uses the remainder as literal cannon fodder

>>48177433
GUYS

SHOULD I SPLASH WHITE IN MY BG/COLORLESS ARISTOCRAT DECK FOR THE ELDRAZI VALUE?

>>48177556
Can't wait for this set. I plan on making a u/w tempo spirits deck. Selfless Spirit and Mausoleum Wanderer look fucking great, especially with Rattlechains. Blanking board wipes or using your own one-sided supreme verdict seem fun too. Nebelgast Herald looks cool too thought the 3 cmc hurts, especially when things like geist of saint traft and drogskol captain compete with it.

>>48177567

And magic came out in 93.

Kamigawa is from 2004, is that specific yugioh mechanic older than that?

>good spirits to go along with Geist of Saint Traft, Anafenza, and Drogskol Captain
>non cancer Eldrazi
>really cool mechanics
>delirium out the ass
>flavor win in general
>left plenty of story for later such as Emrakul's possible influence during a full moon and a Leader of the Dromepack(eldrazi werewolves)

What a lovely set

>>48177817
the power level is actually increasing pretty well with this set.

>>48177322

Uh, is nobody realizing this counters ALL damage spells since they don't have a human source?

>>48177917
we just need 1-2 cmc removal and dorks back

FUCK IT, I'LL SAY IT RIGHT NOW. TITANS DID NOTHING WRONG

>>48177336
>>48177353
>>48177417

>>48177955
Three people are realizing, actually.

>>48177768
That specific Yugioh mechanic is the fucking core of the game, idiot.

>>48177768
Kamigawa is the Yugioh reference set and that particular mechanic is Yugioh's defining resource management system that has always been in the game.

>>48177817
I fucking loved the spirits. Shame the other tribes didn't get the same treatment though.