Can you show me examples of characters who are nice, but evil?

>>48168248

Tamamo-No-Mae, also known as Caster, in the Nasuverse, also known as FATE/STAY.

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>>48168248

>>48168265

>Gilgamesh
>Wants to murder most of humanity because they aren't like the people of his past kingdom
>Chaotic Good

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>>48168248
>Murders his comrade out of greed for power
>Encourages a random kid at a tavern to to follow his dreams

Me

>>48168279
>Red skull
>Evil
Recently hes become a very nationalist conservative due to marvels retarded decision to cater to a base that doesn't buy their product.

>>48168248
Christian god.

>>48168248
I would but
It's a secret

>>48168265
Fate/Shit please stay in /jp/ with 2hu and Boatsluts.
>>48168708
He only did it because it hit close to home, he couldn't have cared less for Luffy's dreams or anything.

>>48168787
knew exactly what was coming, still laughed

>>48168760

That's not Red Skull. I don't think Red Skull is a nice guy to begin with.

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>>48168248
Korgan Bloodaxe from Baldur's Gate II.
He's a Chaotic Evil dwarven Fighter with the Berserker subclass, ignores the law when he feels he can get away with it, kills whoever annoys him too much, almost certainly killed most of his last adventuring party in their sleep, but he's actually a pretty funny and garrulous guy once you get past all that and while he doesn't have much in the way of manners or tact he doesn't really act all that mean even if he's going to kill you.
One character he does nothing but insult and belittle right up until she stands up for herself and insults him right back at which point she has his respect and they stop fighting, and another is a halfling Paladin (more or less, it's complex) and he is sexually obsessed with her not because she's good looking but because she's a total badass in cobalt despite her size and and he thinks they should be friends because of it.

Still, that whole "killed his last party in his sleep for very little reason" is pretty evil.

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>>48168861
BioWare used to have a couple characters like that for awhile actually.
Viconia was haughty and bitchy at times, but she tries chatting it up with pretty much all of the party and despite being Neutral Evil kind of was at worst selfish and so always wanted to take options that resulted in direct monetary reward and benefited her and the group.
Other then that she's hardly that evil at all.

>>48168791
>He only did it because it hit close to home
Nice headcanon, nothing about that was ever implied. Might as well have been because he respected Luffy for his resolve, for example or him simply feeling like it.

>>48168248
I mean....Xellos is POLITE (mostly), but I don't know about him being actually nice per say.
He regular puts the Slayers in situations that could fairly easily get them killed as a way of furthering his own plans, but also just because he thinks it's funny.
They survive them because they're extremely competent individuals (when properly motivated anyway), but he never seems particularly torn up when they're about to all horribly die and doesn't do much in the way of coming to their rescue or anything like that.

He's more like a manipulative bad guy character who realized that the best way of dealing with the heroes is not to treat them as enemies but to cozy up to them in person so they mostly spend time accomplishing his own objectives.

>>48168783
God is lawful neutral. Follow the rules, get left to your own devices with maybe a little occasional help until you die and get eternity in Paradise. Break the rules, you might get smote, you might not, but you face death with no afterlife, just pure oblivion.
In D&D terms, lawful neutral. In canon, lawful good only because might makes right.

>>48169045
>Nice headcanon, nothing about that was ever implied
Remember the part where he set out to hunt Luffy down the moment he realized who he was, not giving a single shit about the fact that Luffy also was a dreamer and hadn't done anything to offend Teach or anyone he cared for? Luffy's the one who cares about the dreams of others, Teach is reverse-Luffy who only cares for his own dream. That's the entire point of his character.

>>48169090
Of course, doesn't mean he can't be nice as long as not doing so would benefit his cause. If he would actually care about others to the point where he cuts back on his own desires he wouldn't even be evil anymore.

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>>48168248
Vito Corleone and pretty much every single mafia figure that is reasonable person, but in the same time head of the family/organisation.

Satan from Bedazzled comes to mind, since she (?) is pretty nice, while being, well, Satan.

Or the town watch from Hot Fuzz.

Dr. No?
Fucking Hannibal Lecter?

Big Chris from Lock, Stock & 2 Smoking Barells?

Major Henry West from 28 days later?

The Good in The Good, The Bad and The Weird?

>>48169196
If shouting one's personal beliefs at someone who doesn't want or need to hear it is being nice, then more or less everybody would be nice, because who refuses to talk about their personal truths unless threatened with punishment if they do? So far Blackbeard hasn't done a single thing to help anyone unless it was for the purpose of enlisting their help.

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>>48168248
Hank Scorpio

For a guy who wants to rule the East Coast, he's pretty nice.

>>48169344
>villain that actually gave a fuck about his peons
We need more of this.

Leon from Professional.
Ghostdog.
Sorter from Revolver.

Each of them is almost cartoonishly nice. Each of them kills people for living. In cas of Ghostdog it's even weirder, because he does it because he feels like he should, not because he's paid for it.

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>>48168279
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj6r0Vi4-Bk

Very good example. I don't want to wait another 4 years for a new season.

>>48169356
>one of his accomplices says he wants to leave the evil project
>he's disappointed but understanding, lets him leave and actually gives him a pretty generous retirement gift

well if you're going to pick a villain to work for might as well be him

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>>48168248
Sandor Clegane

>>48168740
You're not nice, anon.
And you're not evil either

>>48168968
Can't you redeem her though?

>>48168968
She wasn't going to kill people for the lulz though she could be a real bitch to those she deemed weak. Alabite much of her flaws can be charted up to having too grow up in the Underdark.

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>>48168248

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>>48168248
You know it.

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>>48169344

I came in here to post this.

>>48168861
Blood and glory, now you die

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>>48168791
>Calls Fate shit
>Likes One Piece
Irony at its finest.

On topic, pic related to an extent. Yes, he tortured orphans and murdered people who trusted him, but at the same time he was a well-liked priest by his congregation and was a legitimate and VITAL ally for most of Heaven's Feel.

>>48169849
But D&D says Daenerys is a GOOD Targaryeon

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>>48168265
>Implying she's neutral evil.
My waifu is pure! Pure!

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>>48170084
senpai, he was a fucking psychopath. You can assume that all the "good" things he did was for his own sake.

>>48170144
That doesn't mean he was incapable of being NICE, though.

>>48170151
Only if it makes others suffer.

>>48168248
Recently had a game where my BBEG invited the party out for drinks. They met in a low key tavern, and the villain explained his plan, the reasons and motivations behind them, offered to have the PC's join him, and then gave the party three days to leave before he destroyed everything in a three mile radius

The party was shocked, and spent an hour roleplaying trying to decide whether or not to join the villain, leave, or save the town.

A villain is can be evil, even chaotic, and still not be a dickass.

>>48169785
Mare is much nicer, that is until he goes outside of his paradise and starts smashing kneecaps and skulldragging whores

>>48170084
Fate/Shit is a dumb piece of glorified porn with awful writing. One Piece is mainly a kid's adventure, and while it's sometimes fantastic, it has its problems, but by and large it's far better than that idiot shit you fap to. Just look at that edgy dumbfuck villain you posted. It's like someone took Jeffrey Dahmer and fed him a diet of nothing but Linkin Park lyrics. What's next, Akame ga Kill is better than Kingdom?

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>>48170205

>A 4kidsfag unironically existing on 4chan

>>48170205
>glorified porn
Not this shit again.

>>48169084

God has no alignment because his omnipotence allows him to change it at-will.

>>48170256
Have the memes made your brain rot?
>>48170267
That's what waifus are, and waifus are at least 50% of any Fate/Shit discussion or plot.

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>>48170205
Best Caster isn't even from said "dumb piece of glorified porn with awful writing".
She's from a handhold RPG spinoff.

>>48170205
>less than 1% of the total text is pornographic material
>therefore the entire work is just "glorified porn"
By that rational Titanic is just glorified porn.

>>48168248
I'm surprised I'm the first to post this. What year is it, not-1999?

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>>48170367
Whoops, forgot something.

>>48170303
>That's what waifus are
And how exactly is that different in any meaningful way from Oda sexualizing his female characters to the extent he does?

>>48170380
Easily the last good Buffy BBEG.

>>48170407
What about Glory? I liked Glory.

Would Buu count? I never really watched much DBZ, I just know he cured a blind kid once.

>>48170084
Kuzuki is a better example. He's an unrepentant murderer who doesn't see any problem with punching an innocent person's head off or letting his wife eat children or whatever the fuck Caster was doing to sustain herself, but he's also a genuinely good teacher who works hard to give each of his students a proper and complete education.

>>48170400
When was Nami or Robin's attractiveness ever a remotely important part of the manga's appeal? Why are we even discussing One Piece anyway? I'm not exactly hanging around in /opg/ or calling it the best manga ever or anything. I even dropped it towards the end of the Dressrosa arc because I stopped caring.

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>>48168248

>>48170307

JRPG, the worst kind.

>>48170467
Why'd you get so offended about the fact that SOMEBODY in the thread had the AUDACITY to like Fate in the first place?

>>48170505
Why'd you get so offended that somebody thinks it's shit? Its fanbase never shuts up about it either.

>>48170412
>>48170412
>okay, so she's an evil goddess
>what does she look like?
>she's just a blond chick in slinky dresses
>does she at least have a memorable personality and interesting character?
>no, she's just kinda bitchy and whiny
>oh...how about fighting, does she have any special powers?
>nope, just a blond chick
>does she know kung-fu?
>no, she'll just kinda stroll around throwing people on wires with exaggerated "whoosh" noises
Naw, Glory was crap.

The First could have been cool, but it just spent 90% of its time looking like Sarah Michelle Gellar and making impotent threats.

>>48170527
>Its fanbase never shuts up about it either.
And One Piece fans do?

>>48170473
But she isn't evil, Anon. She just wants to collect the pieces of her dad's corpse so she can give him a proper burial.

>>48170471
Griffith isn't really a nice person who's evil, he's a nice person that was brutally tortured for a year, got butthurt that a woman he spurned moved on, and decided "fuck it, why not sacrifice everyone I care about and was loyal to me in order to turn into a demon hawk king."

>>48170533
I liked it. She was a god whose powers were stolen who acted like a child whose favorite toy got taken away.

And she tore people's minds apart to keep hers together. And also punched through a wall, remember?

Also
>she's just a blonde chick in a slinky dress
>he's just a middle-aged guy in a suit
>it's just a blonde guy in a trenchcoat

>>48170205
Hey anon, let me tell you a secret: Nobody gives a fuck.

>>48170567
Griffith was NE the entire time

>>48170205
I kinda like Fate/Zero and I can honestly say I've never once masturbated to it.

>>48170573
Yeah I gotta agree here, I liked Glory's sheer petulance

>>48170605
>Ambition is evil
He turned Guts from a murderhobo to an actual person mostly because he wanted a friend

Paladins have failed to do lesser things

>>48168655

Humanity is evil. Killing them is an act of good.

>>48170567
That's a tragic villain anon. He's still evil. Hitler was abused as a child, you know.

>>48170438
Fat Buu is honestly pretty neutral when you get down to it. Once Hercule taught him what life was worth, it worked out.

>>48168861
I remember having him in my party. Was great, and the way he kept pushing Aerie to stand up for herself was pretty nice, I thought.

That said, I also never took Aerie with me again after that one play through.

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>extremely nice and considerate
>always wants to play games and help you enjoy them

>cares more about games than anything else
>unwittingly inspires sinful thoughts
>is literally a demon

>>48170605
Debateable.

He certainly saw no problem earning his keep through bloodshed (With a side of hoeing) But behelits seem to only open to otherwise fairly decent people who have been shattered by some sort of trauma.and probably wouldn't be legally allowed to sign a contract in that state anyway since they're too fucked in the head to completely grasp what they're doing.

>>48170715
To be fair, the demons in that universe aren't inherently evil.

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I want you, /tg/.

>>48170567
What in the hell are you even on about, Griffith all but says "Hey Guts, just so you know, I'm NE. Always have been, always will be" when he's being all naked and hot and expository that one time.

>>48170735
I think that willingness to do anything to achieve his dream is what makes him NE at his core. He only cares about Guts and the rest of the Band of the Hawk because they are a means to his end.

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>>48168248
Krombopulus Michael is a ruthless hitman who kills because he enjoys it, and is also incredibly polite and friendly.

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>>48168248
I'm always surprised no one posts this chick when they're talking about nice, evil characters.

>>48170753
When was Griffith ever kind?

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>>48170753
...In your army.
You mean you want us in your army. R-right?

>>48170978
Probably because she's the furthest fucking thing from nice possible.
She's likable, not nice. Definitely evil.

>>48168760
That's not Red Skull. That's Red Death. Devoted father and husband and a handy baker. Only ever arches once a year but he's terrifying to everyone who knows about him.

When two people pretended to kidnap his wife and daughter (by sending them to their grandma's house for the weekend), he went full Taken on them. After he finally caught them, he sat them down and they had a heart-to-heart

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>>48170990
He was kind to the Hawks for most of his time with them. Until he needed to achieve his dream.

>>48170995
I mean, she does do a lot of nice stuff, and is nice to people. Certainly in the name of pure evil intent, but the selfish stuff she does doesn't negate the niceness when it happens.

>>48170990
When he gave Guts a purpose.

>>48171001
And y'know, they wonder how a guy like him gets a supermodel wife but I honestly see the appeal. Tall, strong, thoughtful, great with kids, and my God that voice.

>>48170990
I want to believe that he was honestly good with everyone until the whole torture thing happened

>>48170990
he was never mean to any of his men... during the golden era. Stern and stubborn, sure, but never cruel... during the golden era. Odd favors, kind words, general encouragement, rousing speeches, etc.

>>48171076
that's honestly not that far fetched

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>>48171076
He was a good person, but he doesn't take not being in control well. He's extremely emotionally frail, far more than he likes to let off.
We see this when he had that little kid in the Hawks with the knight doll who died. Right after, Griffith sold his body to Governor Gennon for extra money. And had his discussion with Casca the next morning talking about how he did it to save lives and earn money and it becomes clear he's really trying to convince himself he did the right thing taking one up the ass for the team.
Then Guts leaves. The only person whom Griffith had ever actively WANTED to be with him. The only person who could make Griffith forget his dream. The one and only he couldn't stand to be without leaves him, and defeats him in a fight to win his freedom.
Guts doesn't realize how fragile Griffith is. He thinks his departure is just a pebble in his path; something small and trivial that he'll step over and continue forward to his great destiny.
Griffith is in tatters and he runs to Charlotte and fucks to her to prove to himself that he still has control over someone. Anyone.
But this gets him caught and tortured and all he does the whole time is blame Guts for his own failing.

>>48171158
Guts should have just fucked Griffith. It would have solved literally everything.

>>48171204
Do me a favor and just stop posting already.

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>>48171204
Guts ain't exactly the sharpest sword on the rack. He fails to realize he has a place to belong with the Hawks. That he has people who will love him there. Not just Casca and Griffith.
They were a family and Guts never realized that until after he left and the Hawks got devastated during Griffith's absence.
He basically has to have it hammered in that Casca is interest in him.

>>48168861
>>48168968
I hated how that sometimes you needed to take a pair of characters when you only wanted one in these games. I would take the pair, and then start combat, with everyone attacking the one I didn't want. Khalid had to go, as did Dynaheir, but I was good overall.

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>>48171248
Seriously. You're a living embarassment, and at the very least you should adopt a trip so people can filter you.

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>>48171285
Seriously. You need to chill the fuck out over people making jokes.
It's called "fun."
People have it sometimes. Just like they have gay sex sometimes. And there's nothing you can do about it.

>>48171231
He's got great tactical acumen but he's socially fucked up.

>>48171326
Jokes are funny. You're just an embarrassment.

Your parents agree.

>>48171347
That's what happens when you spend your childhood slaving under mercenaries...

>>48171347
Well he was raised by an asshole who abused him and sold him to a big black guy for 3 silver pieces.
Then he tried to kill lil' Guts, forcing Guts to kill him in self defense. Then he runs away and is scared of being touched for the next 8 years while fighting battle after battle.
He basically had to strongarm his way though the first 18 years of his life with no one he could trust at all for the first 15.

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>>48171362
>being this mad
Now that is one big pile of salt.

>>48171411
What happens when it rains?

>>48171229
he's right though

>>48171421
salt dries yo; 'specially when it's not been ground up and is mixed in with other sediments.

>>48171421
not an expert on salt mountains, but I would guess

>some saltwater runoff that can be captured
>rest of the water gets absorbed by the hygroscopic salt
>evaporates over time under the sun

>>48170625
Not even the part with ancient spaceships vs noble phantasm f-16s?

>>48171458
So it's more like an actual rock?
>>48171461
Fascinating

>>48171421
>The amount of salt that goes to the region's soil and rivers is enormous. Due to the high salt levels, the surrounding soil has become virtually barren and only halophyte plants can grow there. The Werra river has become so salty (up to 2.5 g/L chloride ions, which is saltier than parts of the Baltic Sea) that few freshwater organisms can survive in it. The groundwater has become salty as well.[4] K+S are licensed to keep dumping salt at the facility until 2030.[3]

>>48171436
You're the same level of stupid, which is too low to even engage in any reasonable discussion because you need about ten years of education to just reach the level of ordinary stupid, and not willfully deranged like you are.

>>48171506
>accuses others of being stupid
>doesn't provide any actual discussion
>just salts the thread with his pained ass
Son, it's time to walk away from the keyboard.

>>48171495
>german salt dumping facility
Why do the Germans have so much salt they have a mountain where it's mandatory to dump excess salt?

>>48171506
Anon, are you a virgin?

>>48171534
They're mining for potassium salts. The natriumchloride is just overburden for them, along with other minerals.

>>48171528
I'm just here to tell you that you're too stupid for common discussion, and should remain quiet since you literally can't open your mouth without saying something unbearably stupid.

You really think you're worth talking to?

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>>48170285
yes, but his omnibenevolence means he doesn't want to.

>>48169753
He's a jerk though.
Like, it's hard to find a bigger jerk.

>>48171655
>omnibenevolence
that's just propaganda by his priests. remember sodom and ghomorra and other temper tantrums he used to throw? sure, he changed his tune a bit, but he didn't seem to disapprove of burning heretics strong enough to send down some clear message that it's not ok.

If anything he's lazy-neutral.

>Michael: Knock knock
>God: Ughh, what is it? I JUST got finished last century crafting two more dwarf galaxies. Can't you just let me rest for a few eons?
>Michael: Gabriel sent me to remind you to create a miracle for your believers so they are reassured of your ever-lasting love
>God: What? Again? I only did the last one, what was it.... stupid linear time... ah, 170 years ago?
>Michael: Do I have to remind you of their shortened lifespans? Methuselah was the last one who was blessed with patience.
>God: ...
>God: Shit. Ok, so. What shall we do this time. Someone being cured from cancer. That'll do fine, right? The prayer pipeline is full of that. They'll love it.

>>48171248
Wait, why didn't he turn into his girl form?

>>48171878
>God: Nah, i'll just put my son's face in a toast sandwich

>>48169823
She's more condescending and trying to get on Ryuko's nerves desu.

>>48168248
Mr. Morden

>>48171534
They're still pissed about their rightful clay

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>>48171878
Cold, emotionless angels get me rock hard.

>>48170990
The man did all sorts of shit for the sake of his men.

I mean fuck, he let himself by sodomized by a cruel bastard just so he could get the shit to keep the Hawks together, rather than doing something to damage his mission.

Yea, he was a schemer, but he also built a merc company that actually gave a shit about each other, because he gave a shit about them.

It was only when he was forced into a corner and had his entire life shattered that he did what he did, and he ended up a demon, yea.

>ctrl+f most dangerous game
>ctrl+f Zaroff
>0 results

It's like you don't even appreciate the thrill of the hunt.

>>48171231
That's not why he left.

Guts overheard Griffith talking to the Princess telling her that he could only truly respect a man if he was his equal, and not his servant. Guts ultimately wants to earn Griffith's respect, and so feels that he must leave in order to gain it. He understands what he's sacrificing by doing so, but feels that he has to make it to become the kind of person that Griffith will truly respect.

Of course, he fails to understand the fact that he already has Griffith's respect as an equal, which is why Griffith involves him in all of his plans, and asks him to do shit he can't trust anyone else to do.

On the reverse end, Griffith ultimately has a huge amount of respect for Guts, but is entirely unable to express it honestly. As comfortable as he is around Guts, he simply can't tell him the honest truth. Griffith, I think, simply assumed Guts understood this fact. It's entirely possible he was lying to the princess when he spoke(not knowing that Guts was overhearing him), telling yet another lie to woo her. All Griffith needed to do was tell Guts he regarded him as a true friend and equal, and Guts would have never felt the need to leave.

The tragedy is that both of them already had what they wanted in the other, but their failure to actually say something about it split them apart.

>>48172390
Thus gay sex would probably have solved everything, but it really just isn't that sort of story. The solving part I mean.

>>48172504
Well no, it's supposed to be a tragedy, ultimately.

And no, I don't think it would have. They wanted the others respect, not their dick.

>>48172504
Just stop posting, you dumb shit.

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>>48168248
Chaotic Evil, but so very nice.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/SelfDemonstrating/Henry

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>>48172546
Speaking as someone who has never read or watched anything Berserk besides that .webm that got posted earlier in the thread
They totally wanted to fuck

>>48172767
Speaking as someone who's not retarded, you're retarded.

>>48171747
The baby eating vampire nazi SS were worse.

>>48168248
Most of the entities in the Ars Goetia really.

>>48172795
Let's be real here. We're both gay, and retarded.

>>48170929
I was going to say this but checked first, perfect example of a super nice, evil person.

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Villains in children's cartoons are usually quite nice. Especially when they're off-duty.

>>48172976
If you want real, you are the reason people hate gay people. You personally.

>>48172999
They're almost universally assholes, because children need to learn that being an asshole gets you stomped.

>>48173010
I love how mad you're getting over this.
Hate me more, senpai.
wrong orientation

>>48172950
Most of the entities in the Ars Goetica kill you and drag your soul to Hell if you don't compel them with the name of God.

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Right in the feels, OP.

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Gotta say, been interested in read/watching Berserk, but haven't gotten around to it yet. But >>48172767 is right, that's like fraternity levels of repressed homosex right there. Nothing wrong with it, but two "regular buddies" don't have a water fight with one naked.

>>48173114
See, you're ruining the sense of masculinity he gets from projecting himself as an anime character. By revealing the underlying homoerotic tones in his favorite series, you've proven that he's really loved cock his whole life.

>>48168248
The Emperor of Mankind

>>48170666
>666
>Humanity is evil. Killing them is an act of good.

S-... Saitan-sama?!

>>48170177
Not exactly. He spent most of his life trying to be nice to other people. He just feels no joy from it. It wasn't until he came in contact with Gil that he started actively making other people suffer.

>>48170484
Not really. JRPGs on average have a slightly higher level of quality than western RPGs, which have much higher variance in quality, sometimes being incredible and other times so bad it's not even funny.

>>48169269
>nice

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>>48171018
He was pretty much as good as a mercenary leader could get. Probably his most evil pre-eclipse evil act was killing some innocents who were in the way of killing those who want to kill him and even then there were clues he tried to avoid it.

Prior to the eclipse he actually appears to be a pretty swell guy. 10/10, would achieve dreams with.

>>48171931
>Wait, why didn't he turn into his girl form?
'sup

>>48169321
excluding the luffy thing

Do fictional versions of actual people count?
Cardinal Richelieu, at least in the 1632 novels. I haven't read Three Musketeers so I don't know how he's portrayed there.

>>48170567
Griffith is a selfish edgelord who goes on about how important it is to be independent and follow your own path with no concern for others then gets so butthurt when someone else does it he ruins his own life and those of everyone around him.

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>>48173491
>Richelieu
>Anything but the good guy
Who sent you? Protestants? The Habsburgs? The Pope?

>>48169559
I think you got it backwards, Clegane is a fucking dick, but he's a good guy.

>>48172340
I understood that reference. However, I wouldn't particularly call him nice... gentlemanly, polite, courteous, but not really nice. It's a subtle distinction, but one I think is worth noting.

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>>48173562
>fictional version
In the 1632 series, which as you can see is very historically accurate, Richelieu's main goal in the story is to destroy the American way of life. And since it's not an NRX novel, that makes him the baddie.

>>48168861
There is a quest where you hunt down the remnants of his last party. They stole from him, and that's why he's murdering them all - it wasn't for no reason, he just doesn't like theives and traitors. At least when he's on the receiving end.

>>48170646
>because he wanted a friend
So it was a selfish act from which he benefited.
Evil people do good all the time, anon, and a lot of Paladins are kind of terrible at their job.

>>48173699
The point was that he wasn't evil, not at that point.

The entire arc is about how he becomes evil, he doesn't start evil.

Sure, he's a schemer and does some pretty rough shit, but ultimately he's not a bad guy, certainly not evil. Maybe not good, but there was far, far more fucked up things he could have done in his route to power.

>>48170380
Very correct answer.

>>48168783
He's only nice to people who suck his dick, though.

>>48173834
Have you even read the Old Testament?

>>48173485
Again, all he did was shout at him after the whole thing went down, and Luffy didn't even notice.

>>48171487
F-15, I think. I'd be horrified if I found out now that I mis-identified what I was fapping to. It'd be like falling for a trap, but worse.

>>48173346
I genuinely feel sad for you, because you think you're funny or clever, when all you are is stupid.

I understand you're just trolling, but the sad thing is that I don't doubt you're genuinely stupid enough to believe even half of what you wrote, and that would make you a barely functional retard. As bad as I feel for you, I feel even sorrier for your parents, cursed with you as their child.

May they have the patience to wait for your death, enduring the endless shame that you are a fountain of.

>>48174925
Is this an /a/ thing? Nobody on this board gets this salty of insinuations of homosex.

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>>48174971
/a/ has regular It's Time threads for gay stuff and any and all Evangelion threads inevitably devolve into Kaworu-posting.
No, he's just a closeted faggot who is just extremely asspained at the idea of homoerotic undertones in Berserk that he's just shitposting because he has no actual argument against it.

>>48174971
No, it's pity. Genuine pity for your parents.

You might think it's "saltiness" because your head is that far up your own ass, but your trolling is not really as good as you think it is, nor are your responses that clever.

Here's a last reply, because it's how you rate your own worth, and I'm sure you would commit suicide if you were forced to actually take the second to look at yourself rather than simply priding yourself on how you've managed to get someone to throw insults at you.

>>48170144
>psychopath
No actually that is objectively wrong. If anything he was more akin to a sociopath with a sadist streak.

>>48174925
>>48175009
Man, you're embarassing yourself with these weak wannabe clever insults. They don't even deserve to be called insults, you're just saying "you think you're smart but you're not" in slightly different ways. This is 4chan mate, it takes a bit more than that to get people riled. Lurk around for awhile and you might get the hang of it.

>>48175009
Jesus, it's was just a gay joke, how are you this mad? It's just embarrassing.

>>48175240
>No actually that is objectively wrong. If anything he was more akin to a sociopath with a sadist streak.
That's pretty much exactly the definition of a psychopath.

>>48170351
Other guy, but, well, it pretty much is

>>48173190
But if you do that you're fine, and then they're the best teachers in the universe.

>>48170205
Truth. Fate is cancer is has to end. But One Piece is shit also.

>>48170505
'Cause he a faget.

>>48171608
Apparently he is, I mean, you devoted quite a few posts to do so

>>48173635
> to destroy the American way of life
> not and objectively Good thing

>>48171608
Well, you ARE talking to him.

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>>48175867
OH SAY CAN YOU SEE, BY THE DAWNS EARLY LIGHT

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>>48175919
I'm willing to argue that calling someone an idiot is not the same thing as entering the debait they're desperately hoping to engage you in.

Like, if they say "You've got no arguments" and you just say "You're a retard not worth arguing against," because holy fuck are they retarded.

>>48175009
Been a while since I've seen someone with skin so thin.

>>48176341
No that's exactly what it is. Just because you're pretending to be above it all doesn't change the fact that you bit the bait. If anything, it just seems like you're making lazy excuses.

>>48172876
Not like Alucard wouldn't be doing that if he hadn't had his ass handed to him back in yore and then bound as an attack dog for the Hellsings

>>48176390
Not if the person is legitimately being that stupid.
And in this case, yes, the best move is to just call them a retard and not even bother falling into their madness.

It's genuinely hard to find people willing to commit themselves to being that dumb, so much so that we don't have a character player here, but a genuine idiot.

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>>48176315
How can you keep on living with the knowledge that an evil lich will never wish you a good night and tell you to rest well so you can spend the next day being the person he knows you can be?

>>48176427
>if I keep saying he's too dumb I'll eventually get away with not actually justifying myself
Soon the magic moment will upon you, anon, when everyone realizes how smart you are even if you don't show it in any way.

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>>48176831
I've a hard time believing there's more than one person as dumb as that troll, and if you're really at that level, I'm just going to have to treat you the same.

You trolls have gotten lazy, because you think that you can say anything stupid and force people to do more than just call you idiots. Like people are forced to respect you or something. Like anyone with half a brain doesn't already know you're full of shit.

Here. Have a smug face for your efforts.

>>48176917
>I'm just going to have to treat you the same
However shall I cope.

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>>48176972
Was that not smug enough for you?

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>>48168265
>Bipolar yandere fox
>Nice
Just because she's nice to the exactly ONE person she's devoted to (aka the player) doesn't make her a nice person, anon. And half of the time she's not particularly nice to him, either.

>>48168655
Corrupted!Gilgamesh wanted to do that.
Original Gilgamesh, as he appeared in Zero, basically wanted to give zero fucks and enjoy whatever pleasures he could find in the modern world. Closer to TN than CG, but hey, nobody said Nasu knew his D&D alignments when he wrote F/SN.

>>48170454
This tb h.

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>>48170307
Tamamo may not be, but best Caster IS from F/SN.
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>>48170367
/tg/ becomes even more weebish than usual during summer months.

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>>48176537
>Nikaido
>evil
She's one of the nicest characters in the whole setting which admittedly doesn't mean a whole lot since pretty much everyone is a dick one way or another but still

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In all honesty, Index is pretty much chockfull of otherwise sympathetic characters that would make a Paladin go blind if he Detected them for too long.

>>48179343
>Pic related
>Ran a magical terrorist organisation responsible for multiple national-level terror attacks, each one saved by a hair by the heroes
>Succeeded in her attempts regardless, accumulated enough power to become a Magic God
>Destroyed the universe (that's right, the entire freaking universe)
>Recreated it an uncountable amount of times, each time different, all in an effort to break a single boy's spirit
>All so she could acquire what amounts to a blueprint of "the original world" the world as it was when she was born, erasing uncountable times uncountable souls in her wake.

>>48168248
He can sometimes show kindness.
Depending on the writer.

>>48179343
I can't imagine that outfit being comfortable.

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>>48179599
Crap, forgot my pic.

>>48179664
She's a reincarnation/someone borrowing the symbolism of Odin. She has the cape, the brimmed hat, the spear, and the eyepatch, and that's all she needs. The rest are just coverage.

>>48176598
Stole the whole plot for a game.

I feel no shame for this.

>>48179749
And she went with metal bands around her very uppermost thighs and high-heeled boots? Either of those things on their own would be unpleasant, but I have to imagine the effect would be super-additive.

Also, the point of a thong--typically--is to avoid panty line. That is not a concern with this outfit.

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>>48179810
We're somewhat missing the point here, but no, I believe her actual outfit is a bit simpler. That's just fanart.
Of course, after that you could ask "why doesn't she just wear pants" at which point I'll be forced to respond with "because that's her character design, shut the fuck up".

>>48179913
Actually here my attention would be more on "how do her boobs stay in there".

I'm fine with her not wearing pants--who likes pants?--I just tend to get hung up on "if someone has a choice of what they're wearing, why would they wear X?".

>>48169721
Not that anon, but you can turn her into a True Neutral.

But her ending is sad...

It also involves you going on a murderous revengeance rampage through Underdark and ripping throats out of Drows.

>>48179113
How can she be best caster if she has terrible taste in waifus?
Normal Seibah is Worst Seibah.

>>48169310
I wouldn't say she's evil.

More like she doesn't think what she's doing is wrong.

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>>48180216
>"Worst" Seiba
>Implying such a thing exists

>>48172753
He had a hard life, so it's understandable what he's doing.

>>48170139
Yes, pure evil

>>48180281
Fine, Normal Seibah is Worst Servant.

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>>48173236
The more he was with the Maximals the less jerkass he became.

Hell, his ironclad sense of honor is what made him a decent bot.

And his sacrifice...there is a reason he beat Soundwave and Grimlock when they were voting for bots for the 1st Hall of Fame selections.

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>>48180334
That also exists, it's Attila and her amazing multicolor pensword of DOOM.
Actually, now that I think of it, she's a Saber, isn't she? There's your worst Seiba AND worst Servant, all in the same puke-inducing package.

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>>48173388
He was genuine about what he wanted to do with humanity.

Shame his pride and thought of thinking that what he thought was better than anything else, not to mention thinking of his sons more like generals than his actual flesh, bone and blood, not saying certain things and etc. is what made all his plans go down the drain.

>>48180372
But she's just a saber. Saber=/=Seibah.
Saber is a servant class, Seibahs are Arturia and her various clones.
And out of the various Seibahs, the original Arturia is the worst.
I'll admit that that is a pretty terrible design there though.

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This motherfucker right here.

Ob Nixilis

>>48170285
I remember years ago there was a controversy over someone wanting to stat Jehovah as a D&D Deity. Over how it would be "inaccurate".

So I took it up myself, putting my Christian upbringing to use, and created YHVH who had the portfolios of Creation, Community, Life, and Judgment, and granted the domains of Community, Creation, and Law to Clerics. His vice was the sin of Pride, making it very easy to force his hand by defying or insulting him, but this is generally a very bad idea.

I cited all his virtues and vices with passages from the Old Testament. Admin got so salty over a fairly devout catholic accurately adapting the Lord he banned me.

This was like 13 years ago.

>>48180586
Well, it's because you did it wrong. Like, you're so far from "accurate" that your insistence is insulting even to non-Abrahamic people.

You seem to really fail to appreciate allegory and the role of textual interpretation, and how it's not something that someone clearly uneducated like you can perform. The very idea that an omnipotent being would work as one of the entities called Gods in D&D is silly, and while there's nothing wrong with using Jehovah as inspiration, it's something else to claim your awful interpretation is an accurate adaptation.

>>48180586
God/YHVH is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, and the creator of literally everything.
There is no possible way to accurately stat him in D&D, or any game for that matter- part of his whole "thing" is that he's an entity so far beyond us as to be literally ineffable- that is, we can not possibly comprehend -what- he is.
A ban is too stern a punishment (unless the situation actually devolved into a shouting match), but you couldn't be farther off. For comparison,the only entity in D&D that even remotely aprproaches YHVH would be the DM, and even that's a holey metaphor.

>>48173498
>heals your party to have a fair fight
>apologizes to Edge for what Lugae did to his parents
>accepts defeat gracefully
good pick anon

>>48176917
>Here. Have a smug face for your efforts.
You're not being smug at all, just eye-rollingly boorish and pretentious.

>>48176537
That goes for pretty much the entire cast, though. Dorohedoro really hits the sweet spot in balancing its characters between "blatantly psychopathic" and "genuinely likable".

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>>48180702
>evil

Evil politicians/world leaders are a great example

Hitler, Mao, Stalin, etc.

They all seem like someone you could have a nice cup of tea with and a conversation, but they were responsible for millions of deaths.

>>48180883
I personally think he killed any and all versions of white nationalism for good

We're going to march into a future with whites being bred out of existence, because he wanted Poland

>>48180900

Apparently Stalin definitely wasn't the kind of guy you'd want to have a cup of tea with. He was a cuntish bully in his personal life too.

>>48179046
>Closer to TN than CG, but hey, nobody said Nasu knew his D&D alignments when he wrote F/SN.
Typemoon alignments don't really work based on D&D alignments. Good vs Evil is more about "for the greater good" vs "for the personal good" and Lawful vs Chaotic is "with the established system of society" vs "against the established system of society".
What Gil did was technically for the greater good,since his ultimate goal was to elevate humanity to its former glory, but does so at the expense of the current systems in place.

>>48180932
>citation needed
Even if that's so, the "inspiration" for the axis system is more than obvious.

>>48180917
Hitler was aight most of the time if I remember right.

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>>48180916
You can thank America and perfidious Albion for that, though. They had the choice and they chose.

>>48180917
Stalin was apparently okay-ish before his wife died. It was at that point that he personally decided to wash all his empathy down the drain and go full madcap evil.

>>48180731
The concept of omni-God was created in the Middle Ages. God, as described purely in the scriptures, is never described as omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, nor omnibenevolent.

After all, Esau beat God in a wrestling match; he needed to ask Cain where Abel was; and he loses his powers when tied up by a man.

>>48168861
I fucking love Corgan. What sucks a little about BG2 (amazing game that it is) is that the best characters per class are all evil, and it's outright hard to play an evil party. Viconia is the best cleric, Korgan is the best fighter, Edwin is the best mage. Can't use them in a good party for long.

>>48181043
Dude...no. Just no.
Go back and re-read the Old Testament. Remember Genesis?

>>48180231
No one thinks they are doing wrong.

Not even hitler.

>>48181106
>Not even hitler.
Especially not Hitler
Well, he literally did nothing wrong, so why should he think otherwise?

>>48181093
For all we know, "Create World" could just be an epic-level Conjuration spell.

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>>48170471

>>48172876

Do you see a flaw of trying to show how nice a person is with giving an example in has to involve nazis AND baby eating?

>>48181106
No. For real. She really thinks what she's doing is good. Doesn't help that she's so naive and cheerful.

On the other hand certain people she operated were either complete assholes or had karma coming back to rape them in the ass.

And some were people that really did need help and she did help them. Like that one time when there was that girl with a healing factor that kicked too much into overdrive and turned her into a pile of extra organs and limbs, so Fran went herself into overdrive and removed the organs and limbs faster than they could regrow until she got stabilized back to normal.

>>48181210
One that took him six days and required another one for recuperation, at that.

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>>48181316
Fatefags leave already

>>48171248
Judeau is just all "Aww shit yeah, just fuck already. Got a good spot here."

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>>48178789
Give this man a cookie.
Nevertheless, you require cleansing.

Chir Darkflame

from NWN2, Storm of Zehir

>>48178789
>>48181412
Have to agree on this. Also they suffered too much...

>>48168861
"Be aware, Mazzy, I've something long, hard and low to the ground ye're free to touch and fondle. Child, no need to glare! 'Twas me axe I were referring to."

>>48170205
Oh jesus christ, I didn't think people who liked onepiece were real outside of twelve year olds.

>>48181656
The majority of OPs fans globally are over 18.

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>>48170205
Both are shit
Prisma Illya is actually good though

>>48181881
Seems a little much for a blue board.

>>48181815
Mentally still under 12, though.

>>48182076
It's fine for /a/, but the mod that frequents /tg/ is a colossal niggerfaggot who banned me for a bikini picture before.

>>48173388
Dubs confirmed as heretic.

>>48182392
I got 3 days for correcting a typo. And not in the condescending grammar-nazi way, I was trying to be legit helpful.

>>48182076
No, Anon, holding hands is not actually considered pornographic.

>>48182452
I agree that loli passionately making out while naked can and should be tolerated, but holding hands? That's over the line dude

>>48182356
Real zinger you came up with there, OP fans on suicide watch.

>>48182392
Didn't they fuck off? I got a whole bunch of warnings and short bans over a period of time, but nothing lately.

>>48170990
The better question is was Griffith before/after Eclipse ever not kind ?

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Pardon the old school /v/ reference.

In this case, depending on your play style -- especially so if you hold to paying your way instead of pillaging -- you are.

Shame there's only one solution. Well, that, plus the fact that paying for, or pillaging for fuel doesn't really matter. It's a moral clusterfuck from start to finish.

>>48168760
>Implying they don't buy the product
>Implying the Red Skull wasn't created to be a LITERAL GODDAMNED NAZI.
Who has that page of Joker meeting the Red Skull?

>>48182708

I, for one, miss our Bitches For Thulsa Doom threads.

>>48180528
OH FUCK THAT GUY

>>48173236
>OVERRIDE

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I honestly don't know if he's the bad guy, per se, but he was the main enemy of the main game.

>>48182956
There's a ton of more cheesecake in threads now compared to years ago, and we have huge boorus and image aggregate sites and all kinds of shit that we didn't use to have, or at least not in any comparable capacity. Thulsa Doom threads wouldn't fill any purpose anymore.