/bbg/ - Blood Bowl General

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>3 out of 4 games from round 3 vets scheduled
>only 1 out of 3 games from round 2 rookies schedules

>soon
>vets already finished round 6
>rookies still in round 4 struggling to get going

season 4 was a mistake

Reminder that the day of retribution is coming

>starting undead roster with 4 ghouls and 2rerolls

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>>48132208

>start a game
>my kicker disappears

Is fumbbl messing up for anyone right now? Or is it just a Chrome issue?

sup guys, noob here
i've just looked over the rules a few times and am itching to play but can't really figure out fumbbl

so you can pretty much only play randoms in a matchmaking? i can't just set up a game with a friend and go?

So if I have gundam modeling glue (a solvent that dissolves the top layer of plastic so it can bond) would it work on resin?

>>48133673
TEST MODE.

>>48133673

There is a test mode you can start a game in to get a feel for the client: https://fumbbl.com/help:Test+mode

You can also use this to play hot seat matches with a friend, but it is easiest if both teams are made under the same account.

If you and your friend(s) want to play continuous matches with player and team development, then the both of you will need your own accounts and teams. Making "League" teams will be the easiest to manage, as either of you can simply make a room and have the other one freely join it so long as they have the password made for the game.

>>48133673

You could also ask for a game in IRC, we'd walk you through it.

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Everyone should play norse, I don't think I've ever lose to Norse

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>tfw BBEG and Kronigsson Co. Kriegsherrs won't participate in the day of the rope when we remove the bashfags

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHzyWlxSFAY

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P29E5NA8EJI

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Why do so many people have underworld teams?

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I wish all models were actually in the same scale when from different companies

>>48133673
If you want to play games with friends to practice, create a new team in the [L]eague division. That's the place for random practice and games with friends, as well as more organized private leagues.

A League team can play random matches against any other league team - just simply start a game and PM the game name to the person you want to play with; it's just that doing so may disqualify that team for entry into leagues that require fresh teams (like the /tg/ league, for example), but this just means you can create a separate team for practice and a team for league play.

>>48136682
all the fun of stunty with the claw pomb of a real team.
Also more people are want to show off a team that never got "real" minis from GW.

>>48136682
Fun conversions I'd imagine. They're also a good lower-tier team that still plays like a "real" team (as opposed to halflings or gobs).

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hey guys, i think i asked in a last thread, apologies if i did

orcs or skaven? i'm a noob and they're my 2 favorite armies in fantasy

much love from a grognard

>>48137188
Orcs are definitely the better team to learn on, even if their throwing game isn't very impressive. Orcs are also far more forgiving of early-player mistakes thanks to their high armor.

>>48137188
Do you like scoring and moving fast, or punching and moving slow?

>>48133738
no

dead

>>48133738
Highly unlikely, depending on resins used etc. You best option is standard cyanoacrylate superglue (probably).

>>48133738

>literally ever using plastic cement unless you're planning on chucking your models about

But no, it will ruin your resin.

>>48140681
what's wrong with plastic cement?

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>season 4

>>48137307
>orcs have no throwing game

Fuck you

Sincerely, the Wurld's Ej Face Fumpers

So willy minis is shipping their human team right away because the process to make them went faster than they thought (read: they sold way fewer than they thought). So I'll have my human team, that chaos ogre, my undead team, and my necro team in the next few weeks.


Also, totally banned from /co/ for 2 weeks, again

>>48144392
what you done now

>>48144577
Writing "Offensive" things about miles moralis and Carol Danvers, because both characters suck

Ayy is a poopyhead, match is posponed to 22:00.

>>48144392
no shit they didnt sell much

wtf where they thinking making a fucking human team, nobody is waiting for that.

and a better one will come out + new game board in like a few months.

>>48145042
/boo

>chopa: shit I thought we had it at 1930

>>48145115
Never mind that faggot.

Foot Blooters
vs
Frug's Jumpers

https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=869217

>>48145052
Eh. Don't like gw's team as much. Looks kind ugly to me but I am sure I'll get it for Christmas because I never know what to tell people to get me so I might as well.

Also to the guy who wanted that vamp chick yesterday, one of the add ons i could have gotten was the female thrall from that campaign

Instead I got the team with all 6 star players

What if we gave high elf linemen and blitzes thick skull for free?

>>48146382
to emulate the effect of their sick hats?
It would be amusing but not too much of a change

>>48145131
1-0 for frugs, with Frug getting a doubles for his 2nd level up.

>>48146476
Fuggin Frug.

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Happenings!
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=869272

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Hey guys do you like me new logo?
Its for my high elf team

>>48146613
we madrid now?

>>48146628
Don´t you like?

>>48146732
I imagine you're from madrid then possible fellow spaniard

>>48146792
yep

https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=869290
Double feature time!

Anybody know a good range of chaos models for bb?

>>48147003
Willy, GW plastics, Meiko. Other converison options.

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USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

drama

<Ayylmao> To the cunt who says for me to quit playing goblins: You win. Mauled will have my letter of resignation today. And don't worry crab, I wouldn't dare to "ruin" your league ever again by playing gobs in vets


This is what happens when you bully a man

>>48147546

Rip.

Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>48147546
Regen roll

>>48147546
Blood Bowl is serious business....

>>48147546
Looks like we'll be needing a replacement then for Ayy's slot. It's probably better all round; goblins are almost guaranteed to be bottom of the barrel in any league and it's better for a player to walk away if he can't handle it.

>>48147740
Seems like he was fed up with the league in general, he wven said he wasnt com8ng back for the next at the beginning of the match

>>48147740
no it's better for people not to be dicks
sadly we have a few toxic celebrities in their own minds
fun should be the goal, but we have some wannabe pros. they should quit and go play in some competitive fumbbl tourneys, not stink up this one

>>48147818

Really? I think you're exaggerating pretty hard here.

>>48147818
What competitiveness is there? Most people mentioned in the last thread that Ayy would improve as a coach if he stuck it out with HE or a real team roster, rather than just staying bottom-tier forever as Goblins.

Farm teams will always happen in a league due to differences in skill, TV, or just differences in injuries/outcomes - someone will end up bottom of the barrel every season and be easy SPP pickings. But if a coach picks Goblins he is basically stepping up to be the whipping boy.

>>48147816
can't really say i blame him. who the fuck cares if a goblin team is in the league? i guess having fun is less important than winning / OH GOD HES GOBLIN HAHAHAA AV7 FREE SPP

>>48147546
Well this is pretty sad, why would you play goblins if you can't deal with loss and criticism. I feel bad for ayy and it's true that some people in our league are cunts, but I feel like this has been an overreaction from him

>>48147877
Crab was givibg him shit durring the pheonix game, picked through his old ranked games to find losses, told he ruined the league

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At any rate, I feel sad about ayy so here's my respects to you ayy, good night sweet prince

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>>48147936
I said goblin teams were. Get your facts right.

Also, can we add ayy to the obituaries?

>>48148000
>crab dindo nuffin

>>48148056
He'll need a sprite for that though.

>>48148144
Just choose a High Elf Thrower.

>>48148163
a goblin is more fitting

>>48148173
We don't remember him for what he was, but what he could have been.

>>48148173
Goblins don't get butthurt as easily as high elves.

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>>48148205
okay you've convinced me

>>48147877
>Well this is pretty sad, why would you play goblins if you can't deal with loss and criticism.

like being told you ruined the league repeatedly? sorry that's pathetic

>>48147862
so no one can pick lower tier teams now? what kind of bollocks is this. is there an approved list of good teams so no one makes any more mistakes and ruins it for everyone?

>>48148811
Shit man, if I knew you were bringing the salt I would bring the fries.

>>48148811
the only thing that went wrong was that both former champs in the league got goblins rnd 1, but thats random pairings for ya. after that it was basically a non issue imho.

>itt crab ruins everything when he "wasn't going to play this league"

>>48149595
Crab's just salty he's missing out on the goblin spp.

>>48149595
>>48149650
Me being a liar has nothing to do with my bullying.

>>48148884
i'm not salty you fucking cretin, this doesn't affect me in the slightest other than the most dickish members of the board and league are the ones apparently setting the tone

>>48149696
>i'm not salty
Oh you are, and people have been giving each other shit since season 1. If someone can't handle it, then maybe they shouldn't go talking shit either.

>>48148811
>so no one can pick lower tier teams now?
That's not what I said, if you actually read my post.

The presence of farm teams hardly ruins a league; in fact, what I'm trying to point out is that having "farm" teams is inevitable due to the random nature of match outcomes. Someone is always going to end up wearing the dunce cap, especially in a season only 6 games long.

However, *if* you pick a lower tier team, expect to be the bottom of the barrel from the very start.

If Ayy wanted to actually win and get good at the game, playing Goblins was not the way to do so. When a coach selects the Goblin or the Halfling roster, he should know full well that he's basically setting himself up for a season full of straight losses, even if he's a pretty good coach. It's pretty unreasonably to select Goblins and then complain you can't win and other teams are farming you - this is the expected outcome when you pick the Goblin or Halfling roster.

>>48149696
>i'm not salty you fucking cretin
Saltiest thing I've read all night.

>>48149868
As for people giving Ayy shit for picking Goblins, well, that's probably just some banter that got in under his skin.

There's plenty of fairly harsh ribbing that goes in this league - coaches that have stuck with the same team since season 1 get called out on it, jabs get taken at particular players with monster growths, or people rag on coaches that have more luck than skill. No harm is generally intended but if any of it starts to get under the skin, then dropping out and getting some distance/perspective is the definitely the right call.

>>48149983
Or hell, nobody has just asked for someone to stop giving them shit before.

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>tfw I'm crabs next opponent if things don't change

I feel like the patties are going to get some more love this week. Also fixed.

>>48150047
Can't wait for some classic Elf Bowl.

>>48150079
well I have the speed factor

I have no clue why Crab thought he needed a 3rd rr at the start, the speed is a defining factor of HE and its normal edge over Dark Elves. Also without any dodge he will be really easy to knock down and hedge

>>48150105
>Thinking you aren't talking to Crab at all times
You are already on my pitch

>>48150105
And what good is a thrower if you have no one to toss the ball to?

Though he does have two advantages, one being he has a wrestler and a tackler, but the ladder only effects Jack, and the former can potentially bite him too

>>48150105
I don't trust my dice to not need 3 RRs.

>>48150033
asking people to not give you shit always just makes them give you more shit

Ignored are you here, if so when is a good time to play for you? Cause I need my blood bowl fix.

>>48150382
Ignored and Delta confirmed for ruining the rookies.

>>48150583
Delta and Ignored confirmed for leaving the league.

>>48150731
are they really?

>>48150821
>no they are just slow.

Hurry your asses up rookies, I can't fap to this

D E A D

Rolled 2 (1d6)

>>48153893
R E G E N

>There are scrubs in this thread that don't play with abstract icons

How does it feel to know you're mentally impaired?

Dead like goblins

Are dwarves similar enough to orcs that I could recommend them to a n00b?

>>48155917
Dwarves and chaos dwarves are THE noob teams

>>48155917
Dwarfs are good for noobs because the entire strategy of them is to have a big fucking scrum, spam guard, and just tie up the entire enemy team. But if they fail to do this then they will just give up touchdowns. Positioning is really important for dwarfs, moreso than any other team so you need to not fuck that up

>>48155917
>>48156167
I actually think Dwarves are a tricky team recommendation for noobs. They punish overcommitment very badly, and really require thinking ahead several turns so as not to get outmaneuvered and using chainpushes or pushes into extra blocks.

If a new player puts in effort to actually learn the team, how to maximize blocks, and how to position to prevent easy dodges out of marking situations, etc., then good for them - but on the flip side it's very easy to fall into the habit of just trying to win via rolling as many 1d blocks as you can and praying for casualties, which is generally a pretty bad way to play any team.

>>48155917
>>48155917
>>48156669
Dwarves are also not very similar to Orcs at all. AG2 and no thrower means they cannot make handoff or pass plays in the same way, which means dwarves rarely try to set up handoff threats or do pass-into-cage plays. You can play Orcs like Dwarves for sure, but you cannot play Dwarves like Orcs.

Similar teams to Orcs are Chaos and Humans (and by extension Norse/Amazon/Slann).

>>48147862
>But if a coach picks Goblins he is basically stepping up to be the whipping boy.
and?
What the fuck is the problem if someone wants to play Goblin he should play Goblin.

>>48156167
>Dwarfs are good for noobs
No they aren't
It is so easy to out maneuver Noob Dwarf players. It ain't even funny.

>>48157437
Don't play goblins if you can't handle losing every game and people pointing out your team is free spp.

>>48157547
>people pointing out
You mean "People being butthurt that other, but no their, team got to have SPP and trying to find the guilty"

>>48157563
Yeah, you are right. It sure is fun having one team have an actual match then having to play a team that just got 3 times the spp and lost nothing.

>>48157590
I suggest different game then.

>>48157607
Not like I'm gonna concede over it.

>>48157629
It's all fine then i guess

>>48157437
There's nothing more to it - I don't see what's so hard to understand about the statements. Coaches have the right to pick any team they want from the CRP rosters, and other coaches are free to express their opinion (with or without anal pain) about it. If someone cares enough about those opinions to withdraw, then withdrawing is the wiser choice.

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Why don't you play orcs? Are you gay?

>>48159108
I'm not gay enough.

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So what is the best starting lineup for Undead?

>>48161572
2 mummies, 9 skeletons, be a better khemri

Decided to check see if the logos packaged in bb2 have updated with the undead beta.
>zons
>chorfs
>khorne
>kislev
FUCKING KISLEV
>ogre
>underworld
>vampire
Gimme a few minutes to sort out an image.

So how many of you faggots would be interested in reviving the BB2 /tg/ league in the new beta?

>>48161682
Mite b cool now that orcs and bretts got buffed.

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>>48161663

>>48162285
> those underworld logos.
Looks like im making CandyRappers for bb2 in 2050.

>>48162285

>Ogre logos

Is the BB2 Ogre team going to follow newer WHFB aesthetic? All the Ogres currently in the game don't.

>>48162285
>more fanfic teams
An incentive to play BB2. In a far away future.

>>48162285
Also, the chaos pact logos are still there and are still identical to the chaos ones.

>>48162285
>ETA: 4857438573405 after cyborgchrist

>>48162285
>Kislev
>KHORNE 2

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>>48162285
But wait! Maybe we won't have to wait for the rapture! Most of the new players already have data!

>>48162668
Norse aren't that different from humans, but look at that wait time.

A rookie game is actually happening!
Zons and Orcs facing off!
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=869600

>wait for an hour to get a match in box.
>it's a mirror match against some fag with over 1000 more wins than losses

The whole reason I'm not playing bb2 right now is because I don't want ducking undead mirror matches. Mirrors are the least fun

>>48163267
I tried to match with you but i didn't get a fucking game. just fuck my shit up

>>48147877
GOD i hope that ogre guy in rookies will go to vets and just fuck crabs day.

>>48163386
I can if I don't implode this season. Im 80k away from ogre 5 and I have 15 team count and no one died yet so I can maybe make it the next 4 games into something stable. Im hoping for 5 ogres, 10 snots of no - injures (I can live with niggle), and ogre 6 or rr 4 if I get lucky with money this season.

>>48163386
Please, everyone knows Amazons are already ruining the league more than goblins.

>>48150105
yo, can somebody screencap this so it can replace my lizards vs elfs cap?

it is really getting under my skin and if the bullying doesnt stop i might need to stop playing.

pls stuap bully (◕︿◕)

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>>48163442
Zons did nothing wrong!

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new player here, getting smashed by friend's skaven with orcs

any tips? i kinda wanna take a troll

>>48163537
A troll will only make it worse. Get some MB and tackle and get your lazy players to punching. Also pay some more attention to the ball.

>>48163537
The troll can be a fun player if you have a goblin to throw with. Without knowing too much just have some basics:
Always stand up other players before risky stuff

Gutter Runners are super fast, marking them even if you can't punch them is good.

As Orcs you are slow, so don't be afraid to have a player in the back field, your Black Orcs should let you out bash them anyways.

>>48163537
Cage up and mark his rats so he can't move around that well. Also learn to screen so you have tackle zones covering around your ball carrier or theres so they can't move. Smack them down with blocks and blitzs so they can't move. Foul the Gutter runners so they can't move. Most importantly, make sure that when you end your turn that they have no where to move.

>>48163537

A Troll will just mean more gaps in your defense for them to exploit, as he will inevitable go stupid and lose his tackle zones.

You have the overwhelming strength advantage even without the Troll.

If he wants to score quickly, let him. Punch whatever you can get your hands on in the meantime, everything but the gutter runners are only ag3 without dodge which means he's taking a risk any time he wants to try to escape a block on the next turn.

Once he's scored, the ball is yours. DON'T LET HIM HAVE IT. You're armor 9, even when your players get knocked down they will stand right back up. Hold the ball, protect it. Don't make risky breakaways, just keep moving up the field steadily. Eventually he will have to start throwing players in front of you to stop you, but that's just more players to punch.

If you can tie up the score in the first half and he's out several players compared to you, the second half is yours to win. Use your numbers and strength to lock down the Gutter Runners, get them on the ground or preferably out of the match.

>>48163446
Its not quite as arrogant as saying hes going to auto win, its more he's assessing his opponents team he even does call out Crabs advantages here >>48150159

>>48150105
Have fun against Lizards.

>>48163556
>>48163562
>>48163584
>>48163617
thanks guys

i guess part of it is that he's gotten some bullshit dodges in the games we've played when i mark his guys with 2+ of mine. but that's just the dice so i can't be too upset

>>48163709
Well it isn't about what you dodge out of (unless they have a skill), but what you dodge into. Dodging into 0 TZs is the same if he is dodging out of 1 or 4 TZs.

>>48163700
I don't get what you mean? His team (IRA) is #6 and Crabs team is #5, doesnt that mean hes agaisnt them and not the lizards (#7)?

>>48163697
Wait, is he implying that unless dice happen, anyone on and elf team isn't a good catcher?

>>48163755
If you look at the current game. Orcs have destroyed Amazons, making their tiebreaker higher than Crab's.

>>48163758
No but its hard to get someone into a good position to catch without a good speed and white lions come with catch insurance as well

Elven teams can get by with only 2rrs with conservative play more than any other team, how ever the fact that all but 2 players are MV6 does pose a problem for Crab

>>48163729
didn't think of it that way. cool

>>48163800
I guess its just more that I REALLY like White Lions that I see Eddy's point

>>48163709
Marking a player with 2 characters on one side won't change the difficulty of dodging out backwards into a free space. You need to set your players so that the Skaven you're trying to lock down can only escape by dodging *into* a tackle zone, which inflicts a penalty on the dodge attempt.

>>48163800
Yeah, but I rerolls and my av8 meme too much.

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Free crowdsurfs.

>>48163953
I just wanted to be able to dream!

>>48163953
Are WHFB Amazons cannonically lesbians?

I am not sure whether I should hate them or waifu them. I know they bully the pygmy folk and act like they are the old ones chosen people (glaringlizardmenandasur.jpg) but I don't know how happy I should be when I foul them, so I just assume "ecstatic"

>>48163985
I figured everyone would be ecstatic to maim slower elves.

>>48163985
>not wanting to fuck the gay out of them
It worked for Salior Uranus so it can work for them

>>48164002
>mv6 top speed
>no good agi
>trash linewomen
Thats one fair even HE are better

>>48164068
>>48164068
*thats not fair
sorry

>>48164068
Hobgoblins with dodge.

>>48162285

>Kislev and Khorne before real teams

What will Kislev's schtick be? Norse-lite with Hussars and a bear?

>>48164146
all their players are disguised bears

>>48164068
i thought amazons where one of the top tier teams.

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>>48164068
>It worked for Salior Uranus so it can work for them
>mfw I know that doujinshi series
You are a gentleman and a scholar

>>48164230
They are good early but later when TV becomes higher not as good.

>>48164230
>>48164297
>>48164297
Their plasmoid playbook puts it best
"Like butterflies, amazons are beautiful but don't live long"
And dorfs take away their early game advantage. However if you are playing agaisnt murder chaos that is too stupid to get tackle on its killers, you might actually win

>>48164146
https://fumbbl.com/help:KislevT
This is what fumbbl has, for reference.

>>48164355
They look like better Bretts

>>48164355
I can't wait for Cyanide to give Kossars P instead of S and remove P from the kickers.

>>48164394
Bretts have faster knights (and thus over all speed) and block+dauntless

The knights are fairly good out of the box and agi access is pretty badass

>>48164439
So knights now have GAP on normal with Block, Dauntless, and Catch. How would you build them? They become less agile elf throwers but with more movement and armor. Would blockers just be Stand firm/Guard spam with the peasants Fend to stop a forward progress while the knights flank around for the kill?

>>48164588
Yeah and maybe one strong arm blocker and a killer

>>48164146

If they stick to https://fumbbl.com/help:KislevT they're like the bastard child of Norse and Bretonnians.

>>48164439

Yea, Knights were unfortunate before in that they were the only player you could really use in a blitzer role but never could perform well in either of the blitzer styles. Agi access makes them weird AG3 elf blitzers since they can blodgestep up on normals, dauntless was already a popular skill for elves and they start out with it, and they're more viable as receivers now as they can't as easily be locked down as they used to once they've been skilled right.

last two rookie games when?

>>48165403
Delta v Ukrim is Saturday, right before cut-off.

>>48165468
Kick IgnoredConscience when?

>>48165403
Last vets game when?

>>48165574
Before Rookies even start Round 3.

>>48165549
If my game happens today, I will attempt to score with the beast.

>>48164244
Link?

Ignored I put the game up and I sent you the password for it in a message.

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>mfw retards on sages stream argued with me over the optimal number of ghouls on an undead team

All those faggots think that you can/should run a 4 ghoul team when you should only run 2 ghouls unless they are both 16+spp and then you pick up a third. They didn't think my argument of this is what prez and brain saw do and any app on a ghoul isn't on a wight were good arguments.

Also these retards think you put wrestle on a pestigor or ghoul and likened it to a wrestle gutter runner even though everyone on a skaven team can ball carry and skaven cage dive where as undead and nurgle are limited in the number of ag3 ma6+ they can carry and that at any given time your number 2 pest or ghoul will become your number 1 ball carrier due to the guy ahead of him dying

>>48167855
http://exhentai.org/g/529871/090055aead/
http://exhentai.org/g/732129/bd64acb6a7/
http://exhentai.org/g/731842/df1a9f6bc9/
http://exhentai.org/g/813654/3851ebc1c9/
http://exhentai.org/g/880778/5aba44a744/

Literal gold imo.

>>48168022
breath man. Did you get banned from there too?

https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=869693

nurgle vs orcs

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FINALLY
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=869693

>>48168116
and of course its exactly the series I thought it would be.
god bless uranus

>>48168022

>any spp on a ghoul isn't on a wight were good arguments.

Handoffs are a thing, if you are running more than 2 ghouls and can't get TDs on a wight as a result, you were never going to get TDs on them with only 2. And you have to fill the spots left by not taking extra ghouls with something, so it's not like it will magically give wights more mvps either.

>Also these retards think you put wrestle on a pestigor or ghoul and likened it to a wrestle gutter runner

That's not even a fair comparison, why are you sticking a GA access player and a GSM access player next to each other and then saying both can't do the same things as ANOTHER GA access player? Of course a wrestle sack pestigor is a bit of a silly idea, it can't get the most basic skill required for cage diving without a double roll.

I also don't really understand this statement:

>everyone on a skaven team can ball carry and skaven cage dive

Again, you're acting like the whole skaven team has A access - they don't, they're just as limited in A access as Undead. M access can make up for it, but it is doubles only.

>>48168116
Thanks champ

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>>48168535
>you will never have her have enough stockholm syndrome to be your real gf

>>48168550
To make a ghoul good he needs 6-16 spp. If you are feeding ghouls tds then you aren't feeding it to the wights. Spp is a limited amount per game.

It is a fair argument, ghouls and pestigors are the primary ball carriers for their teams. If a ghoul has wrestle he can't be an effective carrier because he doesn't have block and if someone dies then you may need to make your wrestle ghoul carry the ball. Same for the pest. Also you are never going to put leap on a ghoul. If undead are going to go cage diving they do it with a st 6 break tackle mummy or ramtut, not a ghoul.

A access has nothing to do with it. If your gutters die your storm vermin, thrower, and line rats are all ma 7 and ag3 and can carry the ball. If your ghoul dies only your other ghoul or your wights can carry the ball and losing a wight to ball carryingduty hurts. Same with nurgle, but to a lower extent. Nurgle is going to have 5 players on the field who are ag2 or lower and pestigors are the only ma6 player. If you have to use a Rotter to carry the ball you are really fucking yourself over much more than a skaven is using a line rat

Also once again gutter runners are going to go cage diving and ghouls and pestigors won't

Other reason why it is shit to field to many ghouls is the more ghouls you have the less zombies you have to screen off your wights and ghouls from taking hits

>>48168165
Nah sage agreed with me and said the only reason he uses 4 ghouls is because he is a faggot elf coach

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>>48159108
but i am, boss
you fink i don't like punchin' everyone else's guys into dust?

>http://orcacolacast.libsyn.com/orca-cola-cast-12-we-know-we-knowwe-stink-ft-smoked

Skip ahead a bit and the guy tells you how a nonretard builds a nurgle team

>>48170431
But does it tell how to beat lizards?

and now I sink back into blood bowl withdrawl

>>48170645
Know that feel bro
You get all hopped up when the round starts
Then you realize the same people will take for ever and your mind wanders, wondering how the rankings will make your next match. Finally after what feels like months you get the new round and its starts all over again

>>48168917

>To make a ghoul good he needs 6-16 spp. If you are feeding ghouls tds then you aren't feeding it to the wights. Spp is a limited amount per game.

A Ghoul has Dodge out of the box, a limited resource for Undead. That makes them worth bringing even if they don't have levels.

>A access has nothing to do with it. If your gutters die your storm vermin, thrower, and line rats are all ma 7 and ag3 and can carry the ball.

You're the one who said "everyone on a skaven team can [...] skaven cage dive". A access has everything to do with cage diving.

>Other reason why it is shit to field to many ghouls is the more ghouls you have the less zombies you have to screen off your wights and ghouls from taking hits

So don't field them all at once unless you're forced to.

I'm skipping over all your shit about ball carrying because you're going in fucking circles of "these teams have a hard time carrying the ball without a specific player! If you build these players to roles other than carrying the ball then you've effectively lost that player! Also don't hire more than two of them, you don't need that many ball carriers :^)"

>>48170752
Having dodge out of the box doesn't make ghouls good. Free dodge is only good for carrying the ball, screening, and blitzing. Most of the time your wights would be blitzing (and you don't want to blitz with a block less player) so av8 and regeneration are more valuable than av 7 dodge.

I didn't say all rat pieces could cage dive. I said gutters can cage dive and all rat pieces can carry the ball (except the rogre). I was saying wrestle is useful because the gutters cage dive and that the rest of the team has ag3.

Also a access doesn't have shit to do with cage diving. There are 7 cage diving skills, wrestle tackle strip ball break tackle leap and stunty. Only one of the 7 is a access and it relies on again 4 or 5.


Finally you can't control how many ghouls you are forced to field if you have too many on a roster. Same reason why humans only carry 1 catcher. Because it takes up a roster spot that could be used by a lino who could be out there taking the hits instead.

If you take 4 ghouls you will a have a hard time distributing the spp between all 4 ghouls and the 2 wights and b have a hard time protecting the ghouls. If you only carry 2 ghouls then you only need to protect 1-2 ghouls on a given drive, you can hide them on the bench easier if you need, and when the players are on the field you have that many more zombies on the field you can use to screen off your ghouls and wights. Same reason why lizards want as few skinks on the field at a time as possible and why generally they only care about protecting 2. Because it is easier to protect 2 guys with 9 than protect 4 guys with 7

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>you will never spray your creamy elven meme sauce into Bertha Bigfist's womb

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hey guys
my friend is new and wants to play goblins. our group is skaven, delf, and chaos dwarf so he'll be our 4th

what tips do i give him or do i just tell him to play something else or what

>>48171123
Is he ok with never winning any games?

>>48171123

Better solution

Get the chorf player to play something else

So. Is Ayy kill, or will he come back with different team in this season?

>>48173274

He's sent me a PM, I'm weighing up how many uses of the word "cunt" to put in my response.

>>48173751
Post the PM

man I'm on such a streak of fuck you dice like every game the same exact double skull every turn shit when I block

>>48173751
oh bby

>>48171123
In the end he can do what he wants, but let him know he is probably not going to have as much fun as he thinks he will.
>>48173751
Give it to us.

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#elflivesmatter

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This is what the average day of a rookie coach is like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ_HTABr7hA

meanwhile vets play all their games inmediately because they have no life, until they crumble under the pressure of their sad reality and kill themselves

you can't even prove me wrong

>>48174875
You're not wrong

>>48174875
I can. I am a rookie that runs machines on third shift, but I do wish I was a NEET again.

>>48174875

But what of us NEETs in the vets?

>>48175688
>>48175789
Fake

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>GW taking the piss out of themselves for getting the price wrong

We are truly in the end times

>both leagues are held back by a single match each
>one is scheduled tomorrow
>other is just MIA
deadest of dead

>>48177598
>tfw I face orcs next round.
Place your bets on how fast I lose snots.

>>48177631
depends on how much tackle they got
They will always have the strength on your snots but without block on the bobs they only knock you down on a pow, also never ever end an action wiith a snot next to someone, always let them have to waste the blitz for their ssp

And if you feel really bad watch my replay of my first and only ogre game with Chuck 'n Cuck

The second half will bring you to tears and you will never complain about dice again

>>48174875
McBobsonRecruitsSeason4Team.webm

>>48177631
>tfw either goblin mirror or being at the mercy of however fumbbl handles me already having played werter

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Whos your favorite rookie player?

Gotta say Shadew is pretty prolific in his team and Pumpkin is best girl on her team

Who on your team makes you cry out "Dats My Boi!"

>>48178045
Me.

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>>48178045
As the coach of GGF, I gotta say Shedew. He recently got some nice sunglasses. Pic related, also a thanks to the one who made it, but I recolered them afterwards.

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>>48178045
"Drink!"
"Feck!"
"Arse!"
"Girls!"

The vocabulary of a winner

>>48178045
Jumbalgrin. I still weep for the little Nurgle Warrior that thought he could be a star.

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>>48178147
Hey make your rotters qt3.14 nurgelletes plz

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>>48178198
I'm not Tacty but I'll pass it on.
Raspberry's my own favorite player for the borderline miracle she had to pull off to tie my first game.

>>48178198
I'll think about it for next rotter

>>48178198
Are ther even any other qt3.14 nurgle girl pictures that fumbbl would even approve of?

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>>48178390
lets check ye ole chaos folder to see what I got

>>48178430
That's gonna be too lewd for Fumbbl.

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>>48178430
>>48178430

>>48141797
On plastic, overuse will melt the surface of the model, so you can't actually see any of the detail. If you CAN see the detail, then the poly cement is probably slowly chewing its way through the interior of the model, and will eventually exit in a horrific rush of grey goo and your shattered hopes and dreams.

On resin, it looks terrible, because it dries to a flaky mess.

>>48178045
Sun D'oh has only failed one pick up so far. If nuffle is pleased, I hope for 2 doubles.

>>48178230
>you will never bury your face in pumpkins gords

>>48178766
>Round 2 will never end
I was furious earlier, I'd read the last game as happening today and was getting crazy excited

>>48179375
>>48179375
>>48179375
what do you mean? it is suposed to be today isn't it?

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>>48179386
Tomorrow.

>>48179415
WAKE ME UP

Hey SLR its been a while since the last rookie recap and we have quite a few that need to be done

Would you be willing to help keep us sane while we wait for the next round?

>>48179653
Fuck rookies, theyte lazy niggers

>>48180794
Not all of us are lazy niggers!
They just keep making all of us look bad.

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>>48179653

Hard to get motivated when there is so little movement. Get hype for several recaps tonight and the rest tomorrow leading up to the final game of round... 2


Only round 2, zzzzzz

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>Which team do you play?
>Have you ever sucked a cock?

>>48182458
1.Humans and usually only humans
2. O-only if it's like a really cute trap or lady boi.

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>tfw gw makes a different human team instead of just remaking the 4th edition human team with 2 more lino.

I wish I knew about these before I got the willy humans cause these are so much nicer. But they are like $350 for the team and don't have enough linemen. I'm not impressed by the new gw humans though, but I am starting to have buyers remorse on the willy humans (think the Vórtice undead look sick still) oh well that team and the extra chaos ogre might just be used as very expensive mini making practice.

Also I don't think it was as retarded for willy to make the human team, depending on when the process started. The thing that fucked them was gw announcing a new edition. But prior to that bb2 was bringing in new players and no one was making a human team and the gw 5th edition team was hard to get.

>>48182458
Humans and undead
No, I'm not an elf coach

>>48182659
I mean 5th edition not 4th. What ever edition came with this sick as fuck thrower

>>48182335
Thanks SLR I know its hard to get excited, so you putting in the effort is a service to the league

>>48182458
>>Which team do you play?
CD/liz/human/orc/slann
>>Have you ever sucked a cock?
not as of yet

>>48182458
Medium Speed Bash Teams.
Does my own count?

hey guys, noob here. rolled double 1s on an underworld goblin. what do i pick up?

>>48183479
Block or wresle
Then get 2 heads hoRns nd you got a sacker

>>48163985
Canonically they are all super-doms. As in, sex-slave, female-on-male rape super-doms.

>>48174393
Only until they fulfil their purpose: speed bumps.

>>48185282
Thats pro elves, propper and dark elves care about thier linemen

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Lots to do and not much time left. I'm going to try to keep it succinct.

Heckhounds(mc_cloud) vs Jazz Souls(LogicsFate)
https://fumbbl.com/p/match?id=3815500

First week was a messy win for the Elven Heckhounds, and a dirty win for the Undead Jazz souls.

The first half saw a a quick rise and fall of elven luck. As a failed pass is caught anyway, but the turn ends early anyway due to a failed block. The ball in freed and the Jazz Blitzer FLoS breaks away. but not far enough as a 1d brings her down. A 1-2 fuck up of failed blocks allows the Heckhounds to recover and almost score. The last few turns of the half looked a bit like a pinata breaking at a nurgle party. Hard to watch. A failed dodge, a failed block, and a a failed block, did nothing to stop the elven score. KOs and both downs, it was a good half.

The second half sees a 3TTD for the Jazz Souls via ghoul hand off and break away, partially thanks to Blitzer Brutus taking on the ball carrier alone. Next drive the heckhounds set up for elf bullshit but a failed pickup gives Jazz ghoul Tricky Sam a chance to steal. Tricky Sam, slides out of the pile of elves he finds himself under and saunters in for his second TD of the game. The elves set up again for a chance to even the game up and in the cheekiest move of this week opens a hole in the front line, jams a couple of elves in and punts the ball to the Undead end zone.(Is that even allowed?). Jazz souls collapses on the intruding elves and the lack of rerolls left leaves the elves high and dry. Re-RIP Professor Longhair, the elves turn and chances ended with you.

The most turnovers in one game this week. No elves even kind of hurt. Jazz souls Win 1-2

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>>48185654

Walking Talking Fighting Walls(Pizzapocalypse) vs Irritable Republic Aelves(EddyDantes)
https://fumbbl.com/p/match?id=3813837

First Week was a roll over for Dwarven WTFW crushing their snotling opponents, and a bittersweet victory for the IRA crushing rats at the cost of runner "Bold" Thady Quill.

This game starts with a lesson from WTFW to IRA in the frenzy of the slayers. The elves were not even safe on offense thanks to a Dwarven Blitz. The elves try to push forward but hit the wall at the half field and lose the ball again and again to 1v1 hits from the dwarves. The elves never make it to the Walls half, Sean MacMahon failing a critical block to free up the ball carrier. The next attempt fumbled by Bishop Len "Slick Fingers" Brennan. The final crit failure comes from personal favorite linelf Michael Dwyer. His face plant allowed the Dwarfs to walk it in uncontested and immediately set up for their own drive.

2nd half sees potential for the Darkies, as they are playing 2 dudes up and have learned many hard lessons in the first half. The first lesson in the Green Monster deserves the boot for daring to score on them, several times. Some lesson bear repeating though, and the dwarves grind through on the back of a fail block from Father Ted. With a few turns left, the IRA pushes though, do what they do in times of stress and trust in Jack. Ft. Jack Hackett takes the ball and runs into and through the wall to put the Aelves on the board, again. The dwarves having never been score on before take their anger out on Young Hugh O'Donnell. May he rest in piece.

1 Dead Aelf and one cracked wall. Dwarves win 2-1

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TG league Blood Drive(Jammanl) vs Funny Team Name(Threepac)
https://fumbbl.com/p/match?id=3815955
"Laughed Until I Cried Game of The Week"

Week 1 saw the Vampire Blood Drive losing in a close match and the human's of ...Funny Team Name getting humiliated by some rat bastards.

I don't want to ruin this one if you haven't seen it. My personal favorite game of the week. From overrated Vampires giving it up to the thrall ball, to an improbible number of failed GFI and dodges. If you need something to do while waiting for rookies to catch up never then watch this.

Vampire a shit, Thralls da best. No major injuries. Thralls Win 1-0

hey guys, super noob here
which skills do i buy on my orc blitzers, blockers, linemen all that once i get the spp

>>48186972
black orcs need block

blitzers can get tackle/guard/mighty blow

linemen can get block/kick/wrestle

on doubles probably dodge for most of them

>>48186972
https://fumbbl.com/help:LRB6RaceStrategy

>>48186972
Blitzers go Mb/guard-piling on/tackle, jump up on killer dodge on rest for doubles.
Black orcs go Block/Mb into the one you didn't take then guard.
Line orcs are block into tackle or fend. I dislike kick because my fastest playbis ma6 and I really can't make good use of a deep kick.

ROOKIES FINALLY ENDING TODAY

Noob here, just getting in to BB2

I'm playing a human team at the moment, don't win many games but I like their aesthetic so going to stick with them, could do with some advice though.

I currently have 12 players - 1 ogre, 4 blitzes, 1 catcher, 1 thrower and 5 lineman. Sitting at about 1200 to. I've got 160,000 gold burning a whole in my pocket so was thinking of buying another player, probably another catcher. Is 13 players too many? I have 3 rr and an apothecary already...

>>48188751
12 should be enough. Just hire then fire a cheerleader to keep yourself at 150,000 gold because of BB2 fuckyness.

>>48188751
If you have any players with injuries then replace them, otherwise just keep the money. You don't want to have your ogre die and not be able to replace him because you wanted an extra catcher that will usually just be on the bench half the game

>>48188873
>>48189442
Thanks. Is there ever a time to up to 13 players with humans or is it always overkill? What about another lineman instead of a catcher?

>>48189468
I could see in a league grabbing a 6th lineman for fouling if you know you know inducements are gonna be usable due to a small TV difference.

>>48189468
Once you get to a higher tv having a deep bench is good. on the human team the linemen are really there to take a beating so expect them to get injured. also having a bench lets you foul more liberally because you won't be down players if the ref bans the fouler

>>48186972
Blitzers need guard, mighty blow, tackle, and pile on. Order is up to you just don't get pile on before mighty blow. Frenzy is also a good skill, but only take one and only after you have some guard on a player with mighty blow. Take all stat ups. On a 5+5 take the double. On doubles take dodge, if he has piling on take jump up on doubles

Black orcs need guard. So either go block as the first skill on all of them or guard as the first skill on 1 or 2 and block as the first skill on the rest. Block and guard are the 2 most important skills on a blocker so get both of them and then mighty blow as the third skill. Ignore all doubled and only take +st, otherwise take the single.


Orc linos take block. On the second skill take kick or tackle. On doubles take guard and the only stat you should take is +st
>>48188751
Never run 2 catchers unless one of them rolls +st. Buy an extra lineman. Human teams want to run with a 13-15 player team whenever possible because you only have av8 and like to foul. 12 player teams are for av 9 teams (orcs, lizards, and dwarves) or for elves

>>48190063
>Ignore all doubled
dodge on blorcs is useful.

>>48190160
Blodge on everything is useful. Doesn't mean it's better than blocking skill for blockers.

>>48190160
Dodge is bloating trash

>>48190160
>useless bloat
>retards your progress
>dodge is only usefully on a black orc in conjunction with break tackle

Hey, if you wanna get into claw pomb range that shit is up to you. But black orcs like long beards take fucking forever to level up and benefit much more from guard mighty blow than they do from dodge

Kislev > Pro Elves

Is armor 8 an inside joke?

>>48192396

All AVs are sick memes.

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So people here were having an autisim race about ghouls but I really got to ask, how do you get the most out of them?

Like Undead is a slow bashy team, so they are the odd man out, do you just protect them until they can make a break for it?

And necro is a bit faster with the yiffs but not by much, is the role of the ghoul differant here?

Where does the wight fit in? Whos a better sacker? The speedier dude or block out of the box?

>>48192725
Necro only run one ghoul. His job is to get sure hands to prevent war dancer and gutter runners from fucking with you. The average necro td should involve a hand off to the wolf because of his great speed and because wolves need spp.

Necro wights are are the roll player who makes the wolves work. Either get 2 guard tackle wights or get a guard tackle wight and a pomb wight. Necro ghouls shouldn't play defense and no one on necro should take wrestle or strip ball. The great speed of the wolves is what you use to get sacks.

On undead you want 1-3 ghouls but never field more than 2 at a time if the can help it. The wights take tackle mighty blow and then the first one to 3 singles takes piling on and then frenzy is a good choice. The second wight can take guard after he has tackle and mighty blow and there is already already pomb on the team.

As for ghouls, one ghoul gets block sure hands and hides in a cage or behind a screen like a dwarf runner. The second ghoul gets block tackle and should he live long enough side step and diving tackle (and mighty blow).

On offense to generally want to either dwarf cage your way up the field or run a screen that involves a hand off to the wights or the block tackle ghoul. Whenever you can score with the wights. The block tackle ghoul on defense uses his great speed to be a safety and with block tackle he makes a good pseudo wight, especially if he has mighty blow. If he can survive to get 51 spp he is a great marker with his diving tackle.

So basically undead uses the wights as the main blitzers/sackers. And you only field 2 ghouls on offense, 1 on defense and keeping a third on the bench doesn't hurt.

Oh and the other thing. Second singles on a mummy should always be break tackle. On a 5 st mummy that means he can dodge into a cage on a 4+ or a 75% with a reroll, and usually throw a 2 die block. On a st 6 mummy that is now a 3+ to dive into a cage and an 89% chance with a reroll.

>>48192906
>str 6 mummy
>taking str 6 over block

I feel that marginaly speaking block has way more return than +1 str on a really stronk dude

>>48192968
Not on a mummy or a tomb guardian. On a normal big guy who has loner take the block. But on a lonerless big guy, how can you not take the cage dive on a 3+?

>>48192995
Because it is stupid? You are still trying to Block the guy in the cage and without Wrestle that doesn't do much. It makes much more sense getting a Agi 5 Ghoul for cage breaking than a mummy that can only walk 3 squares.

Toobys tie breaker is 21

I think we gotta work with the tiebreaker system, it seems to favor bash and high AV by counting caus as just as valuable as TDs

I feel that first Tiebreaker should be purely TDs, then Caus, then Sum of the two

Yeah sure it might put more love on elves but if you are smashing all over them anyways they can easily implode or death spiral

>>48193279
It's not like ONR is not going to be first if you implement that. It doesn't matter.

>>48193279
Just adding, getting a TD takes a lot more work than hurting players and shouldn't be as valuable. All you need is a few skills or a victim with low armor to get a badly hurt. To score, you need to punch through their line, and get the ball through in the allotted time. You can smash a whole bunch of skaven and not score once, but have a better tie breaker.

>>48193302
yes but it would get rid of "goblin pinatas" memes, and let people be ok with low tv teams in the tryhard vets

>>48193342
Goblins will always be SPP pinatas, you score just as easily against them as you hurt them.

>>48193302
>thinks tooby would have a good tiebreaker without all those gobbo injuries

>>48193374
Yeah but its not a double wammy to just sit around and pitch clear/stall because you can get a better tiebreaker from killing rather than scoring.

At least with the sugested system we would see teams trying their dammest to run up the score. Bash team mirror games are boring as shit

>>48193396
>implying people won't try to score anyways
It is a 6 round league. Unless you are already winning or stalling because you don't want to get scored on, you are already trying your best to score.

>>48193377
Fun fact, 11 / 21 Tiebreaker for ONR is touchdowns.

>>48193374
Plus this helps skaven and Zon teams not be pinatas too. You always see av 9 teams in the play offs with few finess teams their because of the tiebreaker system.

Also call me a pixile hugger but it just sucks to win with half your team gone AND have a shit tiebreaker because of it.

>>48193414
I can name quite a few games where the bash just waited it out when they had a big league
A good example would be the waifu wars

Still my point is TDs should be worth more than caus because they are something that take more skill/luck and don't favor any team more. Any team can win a match with skill/luck but only bash teams with high av can kill

>>48193448
So its literally double because of the low tv teams it was against? also don't use "Fun Fact" its condescending and makes you sound like a homo in highschool

>>48193460
The waifu war was a grudge match, of course they are gonna bash it out.
Fun Fact: You are just mad your team got beat up.

>>48193510
Actually no, I'm Eddy, I was a team that got a good tie breaker from beating up rats. but that was also because I scored on them

>>48193254
Which is why prez takes +st on his mummies for cage breaking right? What does he know he has only played like 600 games with undead

>>48193460
You don't see any ag teams in the play offs because nearly every team in the league is a bash team. There are like 2 elves in the vets

>>48193580
Going off that, in Season 3 there were 3 Elf teams. One was the league leader and another got 5th, making it to playoffs.

>>48193279
The annoying thing about this is that fumbbl's help page for the different league types says that casualties should count for half a tiebreak point.

game's made and I sent you name delta, where are you?

https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=870232

Cowardly Chickens vs. Sibling Rivalry

The final game of round 2 Rookies

https://fumbbl.com/p/group?op=view&group=9828
Cowardly Chickens vs Sibling Rivalry is up

>>48194283
Nice link fag

While I do agree on the fact that the cas tiebreaker is too high, at the same time our league is small and short enough that generally, the teams that make the cut are the ones that made it with their win scores. That still doesn't make it ok, but it's not the biggest deal, it will be once someone gets screwed by it and then the retarded bullying and memes will begin again.

That said, I do believe it can indeed be a bigger problem in rookies where there's only 2 playoff spots and generally rookies is bigger, so the chances of this problem manifesting are higher

>>48194308
Also, fumbbl system isn't an issue as long as fumbbl lets you handpick teams which I'm pretty sure you can. This is easily fixable with an incredibly simple calculator

>>48194283

I'm being social, what's happening in the game.

>>48194431
Human get the ball and cage up, knock out and injure a few undead.
No memes so far.

Update for normies please

>>48195143
Thread is dead.

>>48195143
2-1 chickens
undead starts turn 7

>>48195143
Humans up 2-1 down men with a few turns left...high skill game... pros

undead fail to pick up the ball, no one in scoring range. game over

Goodbye thread it was nice knowing you

Jamman! Play me right now fagget! I'll rekt ur shit!
Match today or tomorrow else you are hugest pussy!