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Let's start this thread off with some bingo! The free tile for today is: "tau player bragging about 5 riptides in a casual game"

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SHOO SHOO

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Got the mail today, boys

>>47998364
Alright everyone, go ahead and mark off Sisters of Battle on your boards.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9ooji9TfLqMNkFiVWJOTldMY1k

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Has either Orkanauts been seen in any Dawn of War 3 footage yet?

They said they were there, but I've only seen the Deff Dreads so far.

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Thank you to the anons from the last thread that responded about me starting an army of Tau vs Space Marines.

I think I've settled on Salamanders w/ Legion of the Damned added in. Is this a good idea? I know nothing of 40k and I'm just going on aesthetics.

Also, what are some kits to start out with? The only thing I'm sure of is that I want Vulkan, even if I don't play him the model is dope.

Thanks duders

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>>47998527
What the fuck am I reading? Is this real? By the Emperor have I now witnessed the light?

>>47998599
>I'm just going on aesthetics.
Thats a good idea. You pay out your ass, so better buy those you like.

For HQ I suggest a librarian. they are the most versatile.

Other than that, start with a tactical squad or two and some droppods or razorbacks.

If you buy razorbacks, you can use them as rhinos, too because the turret and the plate it is on can be swapped easily with the hatch of the rhino, if you glue the two halves together. So do not buy rhinos! The price difference is just too small.

>>47998600

No, you're witnessing homebrew that nobody will allow because they're all "practicing" for ITC.

>>47998543
Ah shit, thanks for reminding me that fucking unit still exists.

>>47998543
Not yet, we haven't even seen Wraithknights in-game yet.

>>47998600 → #
It's a work in progress. Feel free to with in over in >>47946038 (OP) #. First draft fandexes are here >>47987248 # and here >>47988064 #. It's something of a design by committee.

>>47998527

>Still no reason to take Celestians
>Immolators have no fire point
>No point adjustments to power weapons despite S3/I3
>Repentia still drop dead at any signs of S6
Pass.

>>47998744
Ah, carry on glorious battle brother. But please, they need something more.. They need a full Decurion, and get rid of that hilariously retarded restriction on the Relentless devastators formation.

> Moar Options
> Make Death Cult Assassins "power weapons", not just "power swords"
> Decurion
> Make them Toughness 4 and Strength 4, make them cost -slightly- more than space marines

I've always thought Sisters of Battle should just essentially be female space marines, and borderline magical girls. They should be toughness 4 and S4, because their faith and devotion in the emperor grants them strength and determination beyond their mortal coil.

>>47998771

>Wraithknights

But they have been seen in the trailer.

>>47998805
eldar are said to be tougher and stronger then humans. S3 T3

>>47998845
To be fair that's eldar faggots trying to claim that they're 1st age Noldor elves from Lotr. No, they're not tougher and stronger than humans, they're just faster. Fluff should be there to support the crunch, not the other way around, as that invites poor game design.

Is there a reason why Tyranids don't have a Tau Overwatch equivalent?

It seems like a single mind would be able to react to a portion of it's body being attacked with other portions of its body

>>47998907
Google hive mind, get acquainted with the term, then check out basic tyranid fluff.

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I would look forward to playing against Eldar if their players cared about the modeling side of the hobby half as much as they cared about winning.

>>47998907
i feel like this is the start of a meme... also nids came out before gw realized how much they liked overwatch

>>47998796
>Still no reason to take Celestians
We're working on it. Do you have any suggestions?
>Immolators have no fire point
I think he copied it from the codex, which has no fire point listed in the rules. It'll be fixed.
>No point adjustments to power weapons despite S3/I3
Do IG power weapons cost less or something? Statline point values are handled in the model, not the wargear.
>Repentia still drop dead at any signs of S6
I think the plan is to make FNP base and EW the AoF.

>>47999063
>I think he copied it from the codex, which has no fire point listed in the rules. It'll be fixed.

The codex says zero fireports, the FAQ said a single model can shoot.

>Still no reason to take Celestians
Maybe make them inspiring for the normal SoB. Other then that, I don't know. its not like they ever had models or something anyway.

>>47998950
>a unified consciousness or intelligence formed by a number of alien individuals, the resulting consciousness typically exerting control over its constituent members.
?

>>47996584
Is it cool to use the old EPIC figures with the new ones?
>two titans on the table, one epic one Forgeworld

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Are you ready?

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>>47998744

How exactly does one practice for a RNG-based activity? I never could understand it.

>>47999192

Given the rumors of what the Secutarii can do, I'm hype for Cyraxus.

>>47999133
Have you actually looked at the size of Epic minis? That Epic Hierophant is probably the size of a Tervigon, if even that big.
>>47999063
Eternal Warrior does nothing to keep ID from stopping FnP.
>>47998805
You know, you sisterfags have been making a lot of headway towards proving yourselves more delusional than the Taufags. S/T 4? Really?

>>47999249
Yes but I like it even if it is smaller

>>47999192

FW needs to fuck off with this admech and solar auxilia infantry shit.

If you're going to make non-marine shit in marines: the marine-ening, at least make them cool models like the big robots or the ogryns and auxilia tanks.

Veletaris are okay because they are maximus swagimus.

>>47999249
I don't even play sisters. I've been saying for quite awhile now that if sisters players want a decent army, they should just represent their own team of "Badass girls in power armour" using Codex: Space Marines, as it does a better job of representing that idea than the actual SOB codex.

At their core, they were always supposed to be "Female Space Marines". You know it, I know it, GW knows it.

>>47999120
Honestly, I was never really sure what they were supposed to do. They're like more expensive Battle Sisters or Seraphim without jump packs or something. My idea was to make them Terminators (for cheap, obviously, because Terminators are garbage even with T4 and SoB don't even have a transport that can carry them), but that didn't seem to go over well.

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>>47999301

>>47999128
Great job, move onto the tyranid fluff part now.

>>47998527
>no EW on celestine nor any way to give her EW
>no reason to take celestians
>power weapons overcosted
>AV11 garbage everywhere
>repressor is the only transport worth taking but it's not a dedicated transport
>repentia wrecked by S6

>>47999233
There are rumors what Securitarii do? Please do tell.

>>47999192

Next BaC will be skitarii!

What kind of units do you guys buy at your local Warhammer store. I stick to the stuff under $40 just to support them really. I also buy the paints because citadel paints are the same price at the store as online.

>>47998527
Chorus of the Faithful is fucking absurd. All it will do is force people to exclusively run Blessings and Conjurations against your Sisters, and those were already generally the better option.

Why on Earth did you keep that retarded "every squad has to have each heavy weapon" restriction on the Retributor formation?

>>47999388

It was said at Warhammerfest, I think. The dudes with shields increase their invuln save based on how many dudes are in base to base. Their spears shoot lightning. The dudes with big guns apparently have grenade launchers of some kind.

They're supposed to be Titan Guard, the guys who walk under the titan and make sure nobody gets close.

>>47999233
You have to practice so you don't end being a complete retard with your list in terms of target priorities, unit synergies and playing to the objectives

>>47999413

Mostly just paints. If my army didn't have so much FW stuff in it and I had to buy GW HQs, I'd probably buy them from the store so I can inspect the finecast for bubbles.

>>47999249
>Eternal Warrior does nothing to keep ID from stopping FnP.
Looks like you're right. So we just make the AoF something that specifically allows FNP against ID attacks.

>>47999413
I used to stick to character models, deals and special things only, but now that characters are £20 and over I don't bother anymore. Switched over to boxsets now.

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>>47998725
Should I be focusing mainly on drop pods and tanks for Salamanders? How should I go about adding in the Legion of the Damned? Sorry, I really know nothing here but I want to start getting ideas on how to build out this army.

>>47999437
Oh nice, blast baits. I hope the rule isnt really as that bad as it sounds or it better give at least 3++ to compansate for that.

>>47999300
It's far too small to use as a Bio-Titan in 40k. If you like the model, I'm sure you can find something for it to counts-as.
>>47999310
>t their core, they were always supposed to be "Female Space Marines". You know it, I know it, GW knows it.
So, you know nothing about the army.

Christ, the army isn't even bad, just mediocre. You're just extremely ignorant.

>>47999421
>Why on Earth did you
It's not mine. Mine is >>47987248, which is, admittedly, every bit as rough.

>>47999464
perhaps it turns into an invul instead for a turn, doesn't break game mechanics

>>47999413
usually stuff under $30. special bases, magazines, sometimes characters, paints

>>47999249
Please don't lump us all into that bucket of crazy. Some of us rather like the S3/T3 statline.

Compared to a Marine Scout though Sisters should be cheaper (by 1-2 ppm) just to fit into the meta better.

>>47999549
>perhaps it turns into an invul instead for a turn
I guess that makes more sense, although theoretically a bit weaker if they can get a cover save. It's definitely a much less hacky solution.

>>47999526
Not a SM player of any sort, but I would imagine that being flamer-lovin' fools, the salamanders would focus on drop pods to get closer to the enemy. Drop pods in general are nice because you can take objectives anywhere on the board early in the game. Us IG's have to drive everywhere.

>>47999618
>Not dropping Stormtroopers on every objective

>>47999526
Drop pods and tanks are good, their thing is flamers, meltas and fancy toys on their characters so you're going to want lots of decked out infantry.

LotD can just be taken as elite choices for space marines so can fit in to any normal army with ease.

>>47999534
>Every model in the army gets double adamantium will and a psychic hood
You sure you don't want to give them the aegis and shadows in the warp while you're at it? Maybe psykout grenades as standard? Hell, why not just make them all Culexus assassins?

>>47998436
>shoo shoo spooky d ghost

>>47999818
Not that anon but back when I was home brewing Sisters stuff I gave the Canoness, the command squad and Celestians a rule called "Faithful". improves SoF by 1.

They also got "Blessed Armour" which was Artificer Armour that also buffed the wearer's DtW bonus.

So 2+/5++ Sisters for elites and HQ options.

That and giving Celestian models a CCW standard was pretty much my way of rounding them out.

>>47999866
Come back spooky ghost!

>>47999898
fuck you spooky d ghost.

>>47999531
Jesus christ you're the delusional one. Sisters offer nothing special on the tabletop, and they don't even hit their own intended army goal at all. You want awesomely badass women in power armour? Try this:

Imperial Cults and Militia:
Force Commander: 80
- Power Armour
- Augmented Weapon, Bolt Pistol
- Iron Halo
Providences:
- Cyber Augmetics: 35
- Survivors of the Dark Age: 75

6x Grenadier Squad: 160 per squad
- Bolters
- 20 'women' each
- 2 Flamers(Or melta guns, IDGAF)
- Augmented Weapons

And a pair of Malcador Heavy Tanks, preferably the Infernus Variant for delicious S8 AP3 Hellstorm Torrent.

For 1850 points, you could have 120 "Battle Sisters" that have WS4, BS4, S4, T3, and a 3+/6++ save, coming in at a whopping 150 points per squad of 20 sisters. Their statline is better, and the infantry gets LAND RAIDERS as dedicated transports.

What the hell does your own codex offer to match? It's too mediocre to even pull off it's own intended concept.

Just started collecting Orks (got 20 shoota boys, 10 choppa boys, 10 nobs, warboss, 5 lootas and 5 burnas) any seasoned Ork players got tips for a beginner? Modeling tips or warnings for absolutely useless units.
I'm probably going to convert a fire prism and chimera into looted wagons in the near future.

>>47999922
But the spooky ghost is a friend!

I mean who will hold little Eldar children and tell them stories about the Emperor?

>>47999925
>Sisters offer nothing special on the tabletop
If you don't even know about AoF, you really need to read up on Sisters before spouting stupid shit.

>>47999925
Kind of missing proper acts of faith but nicely done.

And as a Sisters player I agree that the Army has a number of issues. With luck maybe a new, updated codex will be able to fix them but for now it's got too few units to make that claim.

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>>48000007
the black Templars.

Is there a way to get into this hobby without spending lots of money? It looks really fun but I'm looking at the sets on GW website and it easily runs over $100.

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>>47999898

YOU FOOL YOU'VE DOOMED US ALL

>>48000159
>we don't see any civilians

They never do

>>48000161

If you don't ever intend to spend over $100 on this hobby, ever, then don't even bother with miniature wargames. Not even the cheap ones, because they'll still cost over $100 after all is said and done (because the smaller games charge more per model so still end up costing like $100 for 10-15 guys, and you haven't even bought paint yet).

Look for a wargame system that doesn't require buying miniatures, or use some kind of replacement like paper cutouts.

>>48000161
EBAY
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>>48000159
Noooooooo

They purge children.

>>48000161
Buy used on eBay or on sites like Kijiji or similar. People are always getting out of the hobby and selling for cheap. If you have a local shop you want to play at you should buy paints and the occasional set from them though.

>>48000159
Hard to see the civilians when you have your eyes closed in fear.

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>>48000075
>sister's plastic come out, amazing book, 10/10
>eldar gain more D guns
>marines get squatted
>starts the end of the world
>polar ice caps melt
>candy becomes toxic
>porn is outlawed
>sun explodes
>babies no longer smile or laugh
>

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>>48000289
>implying plastic SoB will ever happen

GW is too busy using all the mold money and plastic on AoS.

You want ruurbook?
You want plastic moderus?

TOO BAD HAVE SOME DRYAD WENCHES IN WOODEN POWER ARMOR

>>48000075
Its kinda amusing that if you want to play Acts of Faith - The Army then you'll have to play War Convocation.

Jokes on me, I fucking love admech

>>48000289
I could live with that.

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>>48000320
Not gonna lie, it's giving me some hard wood.

>>48000320
I actually really like this model.

Fuck GW keeps showing off how good their model kits are getting but not letting me sell a kidney, lung and most of my liver to buy a ridiculous amount of plastic Sisters.

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>>48000355

SKREEE SKREEE WHERE DA BIOMASS AT

>>48000412
damn, i want that giant beetle

>>48000412
I like that model too. Massive beetle is a nice touch.

Advice on starting a space wolves army in the most economically sensible way possible?
wolfwolfwolf

>>48000480
you need more wolfs in your wolfs.

>>48000480
Put your wolves on wolves so you can wolf while you wolf.

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>>48000480
get started box, wulfen, grey hunter box, codex, paints. that's vaguely 800 points or so

>>48000159
Kek, the neutered chapter can't do anything now!

>>48000480
Thunderwolf Cavalry with Thunder Hammers.

>>48000480
two of the get started boxes is a good start

What the fuck is the deal with Johnny?

>>48000577
Anon, don't. GW has it out for the sons of Dorn. Imperial Fists and Sisters go together nicely now that I think about it.

>>47998343
I am blowing the dust off my space wolves for the first time since early 5th edition, what should I expect?

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>>48000598
meme from wip

>>48000598
He hears things. Little truths. Truths that can drive a man completely mad.

>>48000624
Wolves, more wolves, more wolves, even more wolves, and friend, did I mention wolves? You better not have hopes for extra wolves because, friend, you better make way for the Overwolf.

>>48000500
>>48000557
Why does everyone always harp on Space Wolves for being full WOLFWOLFWOLF, yet Raven Guard are the same for birds and no one gives a fuck?

>>48000649
RG don't have their own codex with bird named units, can't turn into birds, nor do they ride birds into battle.

>>48000649
Because raven guard lacks Windstorm Cavalry where beakies are riding massive ravens.

(Dear lord that would be cool).

Also remember. Space Wolves arent riding wolves. There are no wolves on Fenris...

>>48000632
What's funny is that the original image of Johnny was a Space Wolf named Craig.
>>48000649
Because they don't turn into Ravens, ride giantic Ravens, name everything after Ravens, and presumably don't watch That's So Raven.

>>48000649
Because the Iron Hands are the only chapter more forgotten than the Raven Guard, and now that Smash Prime became a big deal, they've slid into even more obscurity, you see.

That, and they used to be Space Vikings, and instead of leaving it at that, GW went and decided that there wasn't enough Corgis for them.

>>48000688
>>48000694
These too. And the RG are also pretty cool, honestly.

>>48000649
Raven Guard don't ride birds.

That's pretty much 90% of it.

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>>48000649
because raven guard don't wear birds on all their gear or get special pass on things, also they don't have a strong following

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Finished my first kill team project. Never painted Scions or a Sentinel before, both are wonderful kits.
They get the only open shelf space I have, right in front of the loyalist Knights.

Gotta force myself to do my last 6 Plague Drones before I can start a Night Lords kill team. Which is what Id rather be doing tbqh.

>>48000709
They do carry little bird skulls from birds they snuck up on and killed barehanded as part of their training.

>>48000694
>There are no birbs on Deliverance

>>48000730
you don't kill birds as part of your training? weird.

>>48000704
I'd say the Hands are pretty popular now thanks to Smash and FW.
>>48000709
I don't know how to feel about this.
>>48000716
Wait a minute I think I saw your Scions before.

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>>48000758
Squark squark squark

>>48000649
Raven Guard are no where near the level of absurdity as Space Wolves. Neither are Blood Angels. Or anything else in the setting.

That HQ on the wolf drawn sleigh, and the new Wulfen models are so ridiculous, I cant imagine an adult buying and painting those. Even for 40k they are absurd.

>>48000743
In the lore the wolves in Fenris arent actually real wolves but ancient, mutated humans that had gene-therapy to survive in frigid wastes of Fenris. During the long isolation the devolved, their gene-modifications got better of them and they pretty much turned into wolves. Its heavily implied that Thunderwolves are devolved space marine aspirants.

>>48000744
I'm not a two-meter tall post human eunach so it's not that weird.

>>48000782
Blood Angels were getting pretty close in 5th but have calmed down since then.

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>>48000779
That is actually pretty cool.
>>48000782
There is an alternative to the sleigh.

I want to get into gorkamorka.
Where should I start?

>>48000833
Welp, looks like Im buying a model El Camino kit this weekend. What Im gonna do with I dont know yet, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

How would you guys model eldar corsairs?
I'm thinking about mixing Dark Elf parts with Eldar and Deldar parts

>>48000898
Build a time machine.

Since we're talking about going crazy with a theme why don't we talk about our dudes who are probably going overboard with their theme. I have a CSM warband called the Stars of Chaos, the Chaos Lord is called the Rising Star of Chaos and the Greater Starman, his last name means Rising Star, there's a unit of Noise Marines called the Starmen, and their leader is called the Starman. Did I go overboard with star theme? I think I probably did, but the warband does have a bone theme too.
>>48000913
Post the results.

>>48000758
>I'd say the Hands are pretty popular thanks to Smash and FW.
True enough, though the /hhg/ had a poll which showed the popularity of the legions.

Only Salamanders were played less than them. I think. Hands might still be played less than them.

>>48000898
Get that ork box that has a trukk and a boyz kit in it twice, build thematic and paint interesting lists for each then hope someone you can rely on to be there at a set date every week or so that's interested in playing it with you turns up in your life at some point.

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>>48000990
My Death Guard are pretty over the top with their theme, which is always losing. My Sorcerer is named Bufu the Winless, my Cultists are affectionately referred to as losers, and my Predator 'Suck' has never killed another unit, ever. Strangely, my 5 man team of Terminators manages to kick ass every game. Fuckin mavericks.

>pic of Suck

>>48001078
The poll doesn't really matter outside of the /hhg/. There have been IH Anons before, but they have presumably stopped posting for a while. Still doesn't excuse all of the Alpha Legion Anons. Seriously. There's too many of them.

>>48000575

I wish my models wore storm shields for boots.

>>48001137
They're all Alpharius, anon. Every single one of them.

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>>48001133
triple double? Good job Suck, best accomplishment of your storied (in a bad way) career.

>>48001137
>too many alpha legion anons.

It's actually one guy just samefagging.

But that samefag was actually three hundred and twenty four Chinese hackers the whole time.

>>48001133
Why haven't your Termies left the warband yet?
>>48001208
>>48001231
That goes without saying. That still doesn't explain all of the Iron Warriors and Death Guard votes.

>>47999526
the lore behind legion of the dammed is that no one really knows who they are or where they come from, they only show up at random times to save the day. so they basically fit into any space marines army.

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>>48000577
say that to my face heretic

Boys, roll up a tech priest. http://www.the-conclave.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1953.0

>>48001383
>40-100: Neither/Both/Unknown/No Longer Applicable.

woah, that's gotta be weird to wake up and forget if you had a dick or tits

>>48001427
One a priest of Mars reaches a certain point I don't think there's enough flesh for them to consider themselves male or female, and more machine.

So, has anyone tried the new flier stuff GW has put one with the app?

>>47999531
>'s far too small to use as a Bio-Titan in 40k. If you like the model, I'm sure you can find something for it to counts-as.
what would you recommend, some people has told me i can use it in their games but only if i use the current bio-titan rules.

>>48001273
>Why haven't your Termies left the warband yet?

Good question, I guess theyre holding out to see how a new codex changes things?
Just realized I mustve included Bufu the Winless when I sold a bunch of CSM stuff a few months ago. He's no longer here. Kinda sad about it really.

>>48001522
Dont do it anon. Reject that crap. Hold the line against bullshit like that, make the world a better place.

>>48001666
Satan, that means your warband can now be under new management.

>>48001666
Well now you can never lose again.

>>48001666
Just this once Satan I'll pray for you.

I'm just planning to get into the tabletop. all about that 40k fluff and video games. Just not sure where to start, I like the fluff and flavor to orks but I'd like to win occasionally, I'm just not interested in marines or csm. otherwise I'm pretty open to any army. I'm feeling like quite the scrub.
I'm hoping to start a kill team size, then move up to 1000 points and so on with time. Wat Do?

>>48001383
MAGOS FUN TIME
No gender
middle aged
magos master of technological achievment
Atomus (Particle Physics)
Moderate in practice
Major forge world
Augments: Haemonculites, 5 brains, cerebrum in vivo
Masochistic
Large servitors network: 151

>>48000159
>Black Templars
>Protecting civilians
>Ever

Come on anon, these guys nuked entire hive city just to punish one guy.

>>47999313
If you still read this what about honor-guard like giving them 2+ artificer armor? And mastercrafted weapons maybe?
they are said to get the best stuff the sob have.

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>>48001734
>>48001920
>>48002014

But now, Bufu the Winless is in someones army somewhere. The guy I think got him sells a lot of 40k, and he lives in San Diego now. So maybe somewhere in socal, Bufu is laughing quietly to himself as he perils and takes his 2nd wound.

>the overperforming termis

>>47998436
SHOO SHOO SPOOKY D GHOST

>>48002214
I see why now! They're 30k DG termis! Those ones are just so sick. Man, I can start up a semi-viable 30k DG army with just 3 different units. Typhon, Deathshrouds, and Grave Wardens.

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>>48000173
oh dear that army is sexy as fuck

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>>48000161
Start with a small army, build it over time. Thats how the pros do it.

>>48002214
>mfw im in san diego
>mfw i started collecting and got a sorcerer off ebay
>mfw i have no face

Anyone wanna help me name my Raven Guard Captain? Joining a narrative campaign, and my idea behind him is he took the mantle of Shadow Captain of the 3rd company after Shrike was promoted to Chapter Master. I'm arming him with Ex Tenebris and a Lightning Claw, along with Artificer Armor.

>>48002601
Avis Tacita

>>48002601
Rapsus

>tfw sick of space marines so i'm switching to guard
I want to play all of the guard playstyles too. Rip my wallet.

Thinking about transitioning from AOS to 40K. I play skaven in AOS, so I wouldn't mind a change. Tau looks cool but I don't know how they play. Help?

>>48002713
No. Whatever you do, don't pick Tau unless you like being stereotyped as a WAACfag.

I've heard that Skitarii play similar to Skaven, though.

>>48002749
They looked cool. I just don't want an army that needs 80 infantry for a medium sized game. Tyranids look like something I should avoid using.

>>48002788
Really, ask yourself this:

Which faction do I like the look of best?
Which faction do I like the lore of best?
Etc.

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>>48002713
Tau can be either very fast/mobile or totally static. Big guns and terrible close combat but great overwatch bonuses.
Lots of cheese but you can work around it pretty easily.
Pic tangentially related

>>48002809
Ok. I only really know the Newton lore atm, but I'll read into others. What's the diff between skitarii and cult mechanicus?

>>48002870
*necron*

>>48002870
The diference is that the Skitarii are the dedicated soldiers of the Omnissiah, while the Cult Mechanicus is the head honchos in charge of everything and have the keys to the robots.

And because GW wanted to sell you the same army twice.

Though, Skitarii interest me because they have no HQs at all.

>>48002870
Skitarii are made of people with cyborg parts attached, the Cult Mechanicus are more like the borg in that all of their units have lost their identities. The Kastelans go even further by just being keycard robots.

>>48002917
Do you use them together? It seems that cult mech. Is the HQ for the skitarii from this. Their walker tank looks sick.

>>47998503
enjoy your actually great army, have fun summoning

>>48002601
Captain Solis

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>>47998997
>Mfw
Here's my hornet. I fluff my craftworld, as an Exodite world that had to get evacuated because of Tyranids, and was brought into Biel-Tan. Once they got enough resources to form their own craftworld, they split, but maintained the thorn motifs to show thanks to Biel-Tan, and added the roses, the original icon of the planet.

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umm guys, how do you kill these fuckers?

hardmode: as Astra Militarum and you can't use Psykers

His double mega flamers destroyed both my 50 man conscript squad and 50 guard blob in 4 turns... but i managed to take him down by casting misfortune and shooting him with, you guessed it-- flashlights

what the fuck do i do w/o psykers though?? pls halp

>>48002713
40K is a bigger, better more popular game than AoS. Run free from the clutches of a GW Store Employee (pretty much the only way possible you got into AoS without Fantasty or 40K first) and flee into our arms, brother

unless you choose Tau in which case back to the rat cage

>>48003072
>Double Mega Flamers
Ah, Forgeworld. How many Leman Russes do you have?

>>48003072
Armoured Battlegroup Vanquishers with Beast Hunter Shells. Not sure option but unless you go Grav Centurions/Grav Kataphrons or Psykana Division, you cant kill the thing easily no matter what you do.

>>48003072
Double Heavy Flamers? Do you mean he took the Forgeworld Variant with the two Hellstorm Templates?

>>48003118
enough, armoured battle group enabled

>>48003122
beast hunter shells??? do tell??

>>48003072
1. get psykers/shriek
2. misfortune + shot profile
3. hit it with a fucking bunch of meltas and pray you roll hot to wound
4. ally daemons for a GUO/Nurgle prince/Skarbrand

>>48003072
Manticores, 3 of them

>>48002957
>The Kastelans go even further by just being keycard robots

You mean monstrous creatures.

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For anyone who gives a shit and/or likes Gaunt's Ghosts

I messaged Abnett on twitter and he responded about The Warmaster

isn't much, but more than I expected desu, just glad to hear that he is working on it, also I guess it'll be 20 years until we see the series finished lel

>>48003160
with Prescience on the squadron

>>48003072
Weight of fire, throw a lot of dice at it.

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>>48001133
> Bufu the Winless
kek

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>>48003124
yea, hes a real faggot
>>48003139
i dont want to rely on luck via psykers (rolling misfortune, casting, etc)
>>48003160
but those missiles are only AP 4??
>>48003202
i supose, i was just hoping for a solution that is more precise and les cumbersome than shooting the fucker with 20 lascannon shots and 30 autocannon shots

>>48003136
There's a Vanquisher cannon type that fires a S8 AP1 instant death shell. Get 9 of them, it'll die eventually.

>>48003228
dis forgeworld?? i need to show this faggot proof

>>48003136
Imperial Armour 1 Second Edition contains Armoured Battlegroup list. Some of their russes can have special shells and Beast Hunter shells are one of those:

>72" S8 ap2 Heavy 1 Blast Instant Death.

Wont instagib Skathach Wraithknight but every wound it suffers from those shells cause it d3 extra wounds due Instant Death.

>>48003226
then get a bunch of rending shots normally or some instant death

>>48003226
But 6 S10 Shots should strip him of his wounds in 2 turns with supporting fire.

>>48003072

It took him all game to kill two blobs. You could have just destroyed the rest of his army and ignored that thing. It barely made its points back going after the guardsmen.

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>>48003247
youra genius! thanks m8

So if I want to run an artillery heavy IG list, what kind of soldier set up should I use to defend said artillery?

>>48003287
fuck no... 50 man blob w/ 5x plasma guns and 5x lascannons + 50 conscripts = 600pts, a substantial chunk of my army

How likely is for Blood Angels to get Grav Cannons in their next update?
I have 2-4 Grav Cannons still on the sprue laying around, but I'm hesitant to put them on any of my spare set's of legs since I can't yet take them in my army. I'm torn between using the few legs I have for Grav Cannon guys or kitbashing some new characters for my army.

On a more general note, anyone know or got any guesses as to when the next Blood Angel update is gonna be?

>>48003319
Conscripts are the cheapest bubblewrap.

>>48003334
So just throw some conscripts in the way and have them defend the artillery batteries while the real soldiers handle objectives?

>>48003322
>loading 160 points of wargear on 250 points of GEQ
>when he knew he was playing against Eldar
>Eldar with Apocalypse-tier flamers

>>48003325
Id say its 50/50. BA will def get an improvement though. But their update isnt even on the radar.

>>48003325

Not very. They're probably going to give you frag cannons or some kind of dumb blood gun like the SW got frost guns.

>>48003176
this is cool to know, thanks anon. I was worried he was succumbing to that disease he has or whatever

>>48003378
sprays the bloody remains of your shitty assault units on your enemy to cut out the middle man

>>48003396

At least now you'll get into contact with the enemy at a realistic speed.

>>48003347
Yeah conscripts are there to prevent your artillery getting charged. Against a shooty army you dont even need them though.
Idk how many Vets in Chimaeras you want roaming around, Id say 3 all with 3 Specials.

>>48003363
i didnt know he was going bring that shit

>>48003406
definitely improved mobility

>>48003378
>They're probably going to give you frag cannons
Hey, now that wouldn't be so bad.
I already don't like Grav Cannons since they're a tad too OP for my tastes, and if all Frag Cannons were to get the extra firing mode they got in Deathwatch Overkill I'd be all for it.

>>48003364
>their update isnt even on the radar.
That still sucks however.
They really need something as right now they're tied with 'nids as the top of the bottom tier for me.

>>48003418

If an Eldar or Tau player is still actively playing that army in this day and age, he is a faggot, end of discussion. All of the non-faggots already gave up on the army not being faggoty. It's like walking into Detroit and expecting not to get shanked and raped.

>>48003418
Or you could ally yourself small detachment of marines:

White scars
Librarian with Hunter's Eye
5x Scouts
Drop pod
3x Centurion Devastators with Grav Cannons & Omniscope.

Cents with Prescience on will do approx ~7,9 wounds to Skathach. Cover doesnt help it since Hunters Eye will ignore cover saves for the squad.

How basic is a necron destroyer army/cult on a table top battle?

>>48003479
why not las cannon centurions??

>>48003412
I mostly play against a Necron player who is half shooty, half assault, and a Tyranid player who is the same.

I'm dropping my shooty Marines for Guard because the Guard calls to me.

>>48003511
Centurions suck dick unless they have gravcannons
Unless you mean to tell me 3 lascannons and 3 missiles is worth 250 points?

>>48003511
More shots, graviton, reroll wounds.

>>48003633
>tfw i thought they'd be the tits so i modeled them that way
regret.

>>48003640
ahhh, i see

>>48003492
I'm not groking your jive man.

If by basic you are asking how good they are, the destroyer cult is great. Essentially destroyers ruin meqs, heavy destroyers are decent anti-tank, and everything improves if you throw in a judicator battalion for nearly 100% accuracy.

>>48003511

Life lesson for you: Instead of asking dumb questions, why not use google or simply try to figure it out for yourself? For example, "Why pick Lascannons over Grav Cannons". Can you provide an answer?

And no, vehicles isn't a good one. Read the grav rules for vehicles.

Is it worth putting a special weapon into Infantry Squads, or should I spend those points on getting more bodies for a conscript blob?

>>48003759
Las is better against superheavies.

>>48000412
Well, I found my hive tyrant.

Now all I need to do is spawn more overlords.

>>48003759
no such thing as a dumb question... fucking google will take me on a wild goose chase

neckbeards like you know the answer

>>48003771
Spend them on power weapons for the commissar in the conscript blob. And remember not to accept a duel with him.

>>48003748
Lol l ment basic as in how common they are. Also tell me more about effective use of destroyers against

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>>48003247
>>48003292

cant find the beast hunter shells m8

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>>48003847
Page 245. And like already said, its in Imperial Armour 1 2nd Edition - Imperial Guard not in Astra Militarum codex.

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>>48003980
hell yea thanks bruv

its cause i couldnt find it int he pdf and battlescribe wasnt showing it

>>48003841
Pretty common, as they are part of the reclamation legion and have a lot of advantages in that formation. T5, 3+ armor and a 4+ reanimate is hard to kill, especially when toting 6 S6 ap3 shots a turn.

Destroyers are really quite excellent against everything, as they are fast moving hard to kill autocannons with better penetration. After Wraiths they are the best Necron unit. Heavy destroyers are not as good, as lascannons do not do their job as well as melta weapons do, but are still decent.

With a Triarch Stalker nearby the destroyers in formation hit on 2s and reroll 1s, making them 97% accurate.

>>48004021
So.. Heavy destroyers.. Not as favorable compared to regular ones?

>>48004017
God speed anon, as an Eldar player, even I don't take a dual Death Shroud Knight without letting people know about it, and getting permission. He needs a heavy dick kicking.

>>48003826
>no such thing as a dumb question...

Sorry to break it to you but your teacher lied.

>>47999233
How do people practice for poker?

>>48004052
They are decent, but in my experience 50 pts is too much for a preferred enemy lascannon with a 36 inch range.

The volume of fire is really low, and long range guns don't take advantage of their speed as jetpack infantry. Compared to a triple lascannon predator tank they are more expensive, about the same accuracy and redundantly quicker.

Hey /tg/ I noticed that most online retailers that sale GW Products sell at a discount from the retail price.

What's one of the better ones that delivers to the US?

Looking to make a large purchase and want to save what I can.

>>48000173
i wish the spoopy D-ghost on the otherside of MY table looked even half as good.
>>TFW unpainted eldar players are shit.

>>48004438
The warstore is located in the US I'm pretty sure. It's the name that pops up a lot here anyway.

>>47999233
>How exactly does one practice for a RNG-based activity? I never could understand it.
Confirmed for shit-tier player. Probably explains why you play Tau.

>>48004457
Yeah, it's in upstate NY.

I got into a Sox vs Yankees argument with the guy who took my order once, it was funny.

>>48004487
>>48004457
Cool I had found them and saw that the 20% off they offer was the best that I'd seen but wanted to see if there was someplace better.

>>48002601

Quoth

>>47998436
>SHOO SHOO SPOOKY D GHOST

>>48004438

Frontline Gaming should be $5 shipping anywhere in US and 20% off normally. If you pre-order new releases during their release you get 25% off the whole order instead of just 20%.

New player here just getting into the game
I've read that Dark Eldar aren't to good of an army
Why is that?

>>48004917

They used to be fast glass cannons who hit fast, hit hard, and crashed hard.

Then they got a lackluster army update so now they just crash fast and hard.

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Commissars! Stay your boltguns!

Who has the most fun MCs?
>Real MCs only, tau and gay knights fuck off

>>48002099
>The Joke
>Your Head

>>48000598
PRAISE JOHNNY!!!

>>48005022
Noghtbringer. Easy to make T8, fear gaze is mindshriek without psychic problems, c'tan powers are fun, fleshbane and good in melee.

Is there any place that does recasts of the imperial knight upgrade sprue?

A friend who just got into the hobby bought and opened a knight paladin before realizing it didn't have the sprue to make the other knights and he feels a tad cheated.

>>48005022
If you can get her in, a keeper with the new wound giving sword is hilarious.

>>48005162
>tau fuck off
>not counting the great knarloc

mate

I`m interested in buying models from FW but I'm not sure in which of the imperial armour books are which units.
Is there an overview or something? I'm mainly interested in the death korps.

Any updated megas that have up-to-date White Dwarves or the newest chapters of the Legacy of Russ shorts?

>>48005296
battlescribe tells you which book the FW units are in, then just download the respective book from this thread

>>48005296
There used to be one in the OP pasta but some useless cunt cut it.

>>48004698
>Quoth the Raven
Terry Pratchett pls go.

Oh wait, you already did.

>>48005348
Enjoy your vacation.

Dissing Pratchett's a bannable offense on /tg/.

>>48005348
Why, anon?

>>47998364
>Busty Rough Riders
What?
I have not been in the 40k generals for a while, can anybody explain?

>>48005366
Centaurs with tits.

The retarded buttbaby born of 40k, monstergirls, weebs and forced memes.

>>48005395
oh
Did someone actually model centaurs with tits or...?

>>48005408
Yes.
Started out as a moderate one with dark elf but true to form /tg/ immediately hiveminded at pelvic level and demanded bigger tits like their "best hoers waifu".

>>48005431
Welp.
I can't find pics on google but thanks for the explaination.

>>48005348
Isn't it from Sandman?

Hard to tell since the two collaborated a lot.

>>48005321

thanks, mate.

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Oh boy, oh boy, there is a package for me.

Is there some Oldhammer fellas in here?

>>48005296
>>48005334

Here it is

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index

>>48005334
unless you are thinking or something else, all the FW books are in the first link, it's been like this for fucking ages anon

>>48005475
>TFW you know the mailman will just have been by to drop a "You weren't home, so now you can wait untill tomorrow and drive across time to the alternative pickup location" note in the mailbox when you get home, because god forbid they deliver parcels when people are home...

What do y'all think of the Naftka post saying the new edition will be End Times-tier with the Daemon Primarchs?

>>48005500
The books yeah, but no reference, the dakka wiki has the units listed so you'll know which of te dozen books to look in.

>>48005510

It's Atia's rumor so it's going to happen whether we like it or not. Also corroborates some earlier Magnus daemon model.

>>48005506
its either that or have the mailman force your model through the letter box and crush the stuff inside

although if you buyfrom ebay the seller does that for you sometimes

luckily for me i go past my local mail depot on the way to work so i pick them up in the morning

>>48005520
ah i see, fair enough

>>48005510
Untill theres a WD leak to go with it, words are wind.

>>48005510
>>48005523
Explain for a fella new to the setting?

>>48005523
As a chaosfag I'm pretty hype, since they mention renegades, legions and daemons separately. Will be weird having the actual Daemon Primarchs though, I admit. Things like Baneblades, Wraithknights and Stormsurges are a big deal but they're still "replaceable" you know? Having Angron himself get his shit slapped on the tabletop seems weird.

>>48005536

It's basically End Times from WHFB or New-52 from DC or All-New All-Different from Marvel.

>>48005543

I feel like this is just an excuse to have GW do the daemon primarchs for 30k cause FW said they weren't going to do it and leave it to GW at a seminar. A unit dying on the table doesn't mean they're dead, it could just be wounded or knocked out. And killing daemons in the materium doesn't permanently kill them unless you do some kind of ritual with their true name or whatever. Some characters are also unkillable like Lucius or just get brought back like Kharn.

>>48005536
Everyone goes super saiyan, comatose warrior kins wake up, ancient armouries are unlocked and ABC weapons fly like flies.

Powerwank happens, Plot moves, Setting burns and from the askes a new one rises.

That's the theory.

>>48005547
>New 52

So some of it will be pretty fucking awesome while other parts will be literally-what-the-fuck-were-they-thinking tier?

>>47998436
>SHOO SHOO SPOOKY D GHOST

>>48005506
My condo has a custodian.
He take all mails and package when I'm not at home.

Best thing ever.

I mean, why do people even live in townhouses and suburbs?
Why mowing your own grass, keep stuff clean, and repair things, when you can be a community and pay an italian to do that for everybody?

He plant basil and rosemary as decorative plants too, and we can take them. Fresh herbs everyday.

>>48005536

Humanity was saved and the galaxy was conquered by the Emperor and his 18 demi-god sons. Nine of his sons rebelled and the resulting war tore the galaxy apart and crippled the Emperor. The survivors of the war all fled to Warp Space or otherwise incapacitated. Now the traitor gods are returning to lead the forces of evil to destroy humanity and none of the good survivors have woken up and the Emperor is just a husk.

Also all the aliens trying to destroy humanity the entire time since there was no longer an Emperor and 18 demi-gods leading a united humanity to fight them back haven't given up either because they're annoying assholes.

>>48005510
A little bit lame that they're moving the clock from 5 minutes to midnight to 1 minute to midnight. They really need to grow a pair and step into M42 already, the congestion in the timeline with so much happening in 999.M41 is just silly.

>>48005587
I live in an apartment that is in a complex owned by my girlfriend's father.

They're Russian so they have this big fucker, who happens to be her cousin, go around dropping off everyone's mail.

I found out he's into 40k when he told me at a holiday dinner that he had been tempted to nab the Krieg troopers I had ordered for himself.

>>48005599
Going into M42 is not the right move. They should move the clock back. Shit like Badab War and early Armageddon Wars were where it was at. Not this 999 shit. M32, M33, and M39 have tons of good shit but GW will probably never do anything before M36 because a lot of plastic marine shit didn't exist then and GW hasn't done anything not 999 for years.

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>>48005475
First generation Daemonettes!

Yeeeee!

>>48005587
I like fixing things, and mowing the lawn, only reason im i my flat is that it's cheap and a house is a lot of space for one person

Still no angels of caliban epub?

>>48005666
Epistolarys circle got broken so don't expect any 40k books.

So whats up next for 40k after this next wave of shitmar

>>48005863
warhammer 41k

>2 pages long rule book
>BS and WS are replaced with a standard 50% chance to hit
>wounds are doubled, saves are removed

>>48005863
Codex Genestealer Cults and Deathwatch. There may or may not be a minor release or two. Then we've got Wulfen 2 in October, so Black Legion and Thousand Sons. Plus whatever loyalist factions get new stuff. Moving into next year, we've got CSM and 8th edition.

>>48005890
that still leaves a lot of space to fill

So twin-linked on blast / barrage weapons means they can use twinlinked to re-roll to try and get a Hit! instead of a scatter?

>>48005143
>he feels a tad cheated
Then maybe he should read fucking product descriptions or ask someone in he know which kit he'll need to buy, not that that's a valid excuse because excepting the Gallant the only Knights you can make with the upgrade sprue both have the gatling cannon which is shown on the Warden box and not the Paladin box.

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hey guys, how good are mechanicus on the table? will they be getting more models in the future?

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>>48005623
This. So much this.

>>48005632
You going to be casting those old classics?

>>48005902
the scatter is the to-hit roll, twin linked means they have to reroll the scatter

>>48005922
SkitMech are probably middle tier at best. They have some cook options but they are really handicapped by a lack of transports (or any vehicles, for that matter) that presents them with a problem given their usually-short-ranged weaponry.

You can run War Convocation that kicks them up into the big leagues but you won't be sweeping tournaments now that Dante's Used pod Emporium is a thing of the past.

There is a rumour going around of a new update that rolls both of their books into one and gives them some new shit (transport vehicle, flyer) but I don't know how soon that will be.

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>>48000289
>porn is outlawed

Right, time to kill me a God-Emperor.
No one, but no one, takes my porn away.

>>48005992
>not jacking off to the sound of xeno scum being obliterated in the name of the emperor

I only have a herald of Khorne to be my HQ for my daemon army so is it worth getting an exalted reward on him? Or should I just leave him with a greater?

>>47999063

>We're working on it. Do you have any suggestions?
Make them I4. Allow them to swap bolters for CCWs. Also you have a typo in the Celestian statline, making them WS3.

>Do IG power weapons cost less or something?
IG can hide their power weapons from challengers through combined squads and attached characters. This still doesn't justify that, they too, are overpriced crap.

For Repentia, make their FnP (4+) standard. Change their AoF to give them the ability to run and charge, Crusader, and Move through cover.

>>48000214
I picked up 2 crew boxes for malifaux for $50 yesterday on ebay, Thats 15 models, enough to make hugely varied lists.

>>48003788
Not really, 1 shot on 5's vs 5 shots on 6's

>>47998527
I know Sisters of Battle are known for hunting down witches, but is there any fluff of them being so resistant to Psychic abilities?

All the fandexes I see for them give them insane Psyker resistance to the point that the Hive Mind must be sad that its Shadow can't compare

>>48006480
They've had innate psychic resistance after Witch Hunters codex came out. Cant remember how they worded that in there. Atleast they are pretty damn pure in body and soul so theres that. In rules terms it manifested as complete immunity to Minor Psychic Powers (ssssuuuccckkkk it Siren!) and 5+ chance to nullify powers directed towards them.

>>48006480
They believe so hard that they invalidate the enemy's psychic bullshit or something. That or Emperor protects.

It's canon that faith alone can banish daemons, so it's not hard to believe huge amounts of zealot Sisters can dispel psychic powers through their faith.

>>47999878
I'm a big fan of Shield of Faith getting +1 (Usually to a 5++) against any attack that would apply Instant Death (S6 included), maybe also throw non-6s for Destroyer hits.

>>48000320
>>48000412
OK, as much as I hate AoS, some of the models for it are actually neat.

I really don't know what army to pick up next. I got a thousand points of tau and I'm giving them a rest for now. I'm thinking of trying something that's got some fun melee monsters or big centrepiece units.

Someone send help!

>>48005444
Truly those were the days

>>48006566
>fun melee monsters
Marines have Dreads in several flavours, which aren't the most competitive choice but they are fun, look cool and wreck shit in melee. Marines in general also have some alright melee units but again, depending on your meta they may not be that competitive.

>big centrepiece units
Toss in a Knight to any Imperial army and there you have it. Make sure it has a sword and it'll kick the ass of anything that isn't a Wraithknight in close combat, too.

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>Love daemons
>Love going fast
>No Start Collecting Daemons of Slaanesh

I just want good deals

>>48006511
>>48006519
Thanks was just curious, because some of the posts I've recently read try to make Sisters "a Psyker's worst nightmare", which I feel would be more Culexus Assassins first with Shadow of the Warp and/or Daemonic possession second. So it sounds like it was mostly fanwank

I think they should be resistant, with the only change I'd add is for each non-vehicle Sister of Battle unit on the table, generate 1 additional Deny the Witch die.

All units have a 5+ DotW and a dickton of Deny dice.

>>48002080
Now stat this freak.

>>48006645
Yeah, I don't know what posts in particular you've seen but Sisters always were supposed to be psyker-resistant, not actively harmful to them (their bolter-stake/Condemnor boltguns, though...). Problem is that because DtW is based on WC dice, Sisters are fairly shit at actually preventing the use of psychic powers even with AW, so it's a hot topic for homebrew shit and /tg/ being /tg/ some of it is going to be retarded.

>>48006645
Sisters abhor spykers with passion. And when your pure beleif turns into physical miracles, your anti-psyker tendencies will hurt psykers. So I agree. They should be more anti-psyker than just having Adamantine Will. +1 dispel dice per squad of sisters should be a thing.

>wants to make a Vostroyan regiment but doesn't know what kind
Should I go for heavily mechanized?

>>48006835
Yes. You dont want to haul infantry regiment around that is made out of metal models.

>>48006603
But anon Slaanesh isnt family friendly! Surely you don't want little jimmy to not be able to play the game!

>>48006846
I thought the Vostroyans finally got plastics? Or did GW forget about them and said that only Cadians existed?

>>48006861
I wouldn't mind a Tzeentch one either at this point

>>48005562
Exactly right, see WFB End Times as an example

>>47998527
Splitting death cult and battle conclaves into 2 units is a huge nerf to both of them

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>>48001383
Neither
Ancient
Magos
Explorator
Heretical
Major Forge World
Corpus Gloriosa
Paranoia
Orbital Installation

So, I'm a old as fuck but still beautiful paranoid heretic on a major forge world that commits acts of tech-heresy on my space ship looking for new ways to piss of the Omnissiah

Nice

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>>48007025
Now you have a character made for a Dark AdMech army.
>that T-Rex
The Sharkversor demands a challenge.

>>48006889
Only cadians and catachans have plastics. If you search long and hard, you might find recasters that make old metal regiments (Tanith/Vostryan/Steel Legion/Mordian/Tallarn/Valhallan).

>>48007062
Why does GW have a perverse sexual lust towards Cadians?

>>48007074
They hate guard in general
Hence the shitty codex and shitty models

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I'm going to be running some Kill Team soon, possibly a campaign, and I've got a bunch of old cardboard and plastic bulkhead 40k/Necromunda terrain. What else is worth picking up for some variety, ideally cheaply? Any suggestions for battle mats, or am I better off painting a 3x3 board grey/brown/etc?

>>48007081
The models aren't that bad in my opinion.

>>48007074
They just decided that they are most generically popular IG-army and its much easier to supply to single line of models instead of multiples.

They should fucking finally release those greatcoat guardsmen already

>>48007081
They don't though? The models haven't been updated in a very long time.

>>48007139
The sooner the better, Anon.

>>48007132
They're not bad, but they're not great compared to some more recent stuff. There's a wealth of alternative models that while UNOFFICIAL are pretty good.

I do wonder if the fact that virtually everyone plays vehicle heavy Guard prevents them from bothering with new infantry that are only going to be seen as mandatory troop slot fillers.

Thinking about sticking a unit of 6 grav kataphrons and a magos armed with Raiment of the Technomartyr and volkite blaster in my guard army. How do these guys play out?

>>48007161
>I do wonder if the fact that virtually everyone plays vehicle heavy Guard prevents them from bothering with new infantry that are only going to be seen as mandatory troop slot fillers.
That might be it, but I thought everyone plays 500 man blobs for IG?

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>>48005931
>You going to be casting those old classics?
I don't think so.
They are very small and very detailed for casting, it's unlikely they're going to end up good.

Also, I bought them to complete my collection. I wanted all 4 generation of daemonettes, and now I have them.
I'll have fun painting them.

How would you balance Eldar, Space Marines, and Tau- WITHOUT just flat nerfs that would make nobody want to use them?

>>48007199
I've not played in a while myself, but when I left it was all about tank squads and, whenever I go on youtube, every game has 9 Leman Russes. The only time I see big infantry blocks are when people are showing off their painted armies here or on some forum.

>>48007241
What about the Chimera vets deal?

>>48007191
Shoot all the shit out of skies/5. Solid tier1 unit, especially in War Convocation. I'd still recommend Eradication Ray thou. Also Stasis Field comboes well with Raiments since going into ground doesnt hurt the unit that much.

>>48007280
Yeah, I see a lot of them too as the mandatory troop choices. 2 vet squads, 2 dedicated transports. Command squad in a chimera too. Everything else is a vehicle. I know Guardsmen are the disposable mooks of the setting, but people seem REALLY reluctant to use them.

>>48007241
>>48007280
>>48007314
>not spamming blobs
>not attaching Priests for fearless blobs, eh kills shit in close combat and doesn't afraid of anything
>not using Azrael to give a blob 4++
>not adding psyker support for rerollable saves (Libbys) and rending flashlights

>>48007229
Impossible
Aside from points handicap and even then that's iffy af

>>48007229

So give them nerfs that DONT make them unusable trash.