Eldritch Moon Spoilers!

>Brisela

You had one job, WotC.

>>47989377
WELP

Huh, both the cards seem pretty decent before melding.

>>47989377
I would totally run that. This fusion mechanic looks kind of meh, but both cards seem pretty viable on their own, and their voltron form is awesome.

>>47989439
Holy shit, there is going to be some insanely broken emerge combo. I'm calling it now. It may not be standard legal, but I can see cheating things out with high converted mana costs but easy casting conditions, saccing it, then causing some mayhem. I like that they had enough forethought to make sure the emerge cost has devotion as a requirement.

>>47989424
Woah. I just realized that they made meld cards to primarily get more people buying packs in order to find the other side of their meld card. Also, those cards are pretty solid on their own.

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So we get one half on each of the melding cards.

>>47989439
Mega-Offering
Mega-Entwine

WotC totally has original ideas left guise

>>47989472
Scornful Egotist!

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>>47989439
Okay, I take everything back about what I've said about this set. Emerge is going to be fun as fuck.
>>47989472
Pic extremely related.

>>47989480
YESSSSS!!! I am going to fucking LOVE this set now. Double card art cards have been on my wish list since B.F.G.

>>47989520
That cryptolith fragment looks pretty spicy in limited. It could be a wincon in and of itself in a monored burn deck.

>>47989377
So i guess you're supposed to run Bruna as your commander and use her ability to get Gisela out of the gaveyard (hoping that no one exile her).

>>47989377
this looks far too slow

>>47989377
>2 cards, one of which is 7 cmc
MaRo does it again! 10/10 mechanic

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>>47989520
REFLECTION TRIBAL CONFIRMED

>>47989562
The 7 mana one has a white re-animator effect (something I've never seen white have) along with a 4/7 flying body with VIGILANCE.

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>>47989548
>using either of those as a commander
>not playing 5-color angels under Karona

>>47989377
>Two of the three powerpuffs get fucked for DRAMA in the return set
>Full edge flavor throughout
>It really was Emrakul again, the creatively bankrupt bastards
>All that thoughtless Lovecraft apeing
>To top it off, they really DID use the legends to push an awkward new mechanic
Fuck it, I'm out.

>>47989577
>(something I've never seen white have)

Hello new faggot, did you only start playing with Shadows over innistrad?

>>47989583
>implying i can afford the mana for karona

>>47989587
What other white cards have reanimate besides that one angel that kills zombies and reanimates humans.

>>47989377
This looks fun, at least. Play Gisela early on, she'll inevitably die to some removal or bullshittery, Drop Bruna and bring her back, then they merge at the end of the step.

Essentially, if Gisela is in the graveyard, It's 5WW for a 9/10 with Flying, first strike, vigilance, and lifelink, that shuts down a good chunk of removal spells.

>>47989604
>Sun Titan
>Reveillark

>>47989577
>something I've never seen white have
Karmic Guide?
Reveillark?
Angel of Glory's Rise?
Dawnbreak Reclaimer?
Emeria Shepherd?
Reya Dawnbringer?

>>47989604
http://magiccards.info/query?q=o%3Areturn+o%3Acreature+o%3Ato+o%3Abattlefield+c%21w&v=card&s=cname

>>47989604
There is a fuckton of rituals that reanimate tiny creatures.

>>47989604
Weren't there like three angels from original innistrad block that had reanimation effects?

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>>47989604
You've already been rekt, maybe you should've looked shit up before mouthing off like a new fag.

>>47989377
So Sigarda will have to take down that bullshit of a monstrosity? That cannot end well.
And i doubt we'll see the black angel returns to save the day

>>47989604
Karmic Guide, Reya Dawnbringer, Sun Titan, Loyal Retainers, Order of Whiteclay, Pulsemage Advocate, and Reveillark are some of the creatures that do it off the top of my head, and several spells do it too. Most notably Resurrection, which was in ABU.

White does reanimation and always has.

>>47989602
use amulet of vigor and taplands

>>47989424
That Otherworldly Journey reprint tho

>>47989377

I'm liking the new gimmicks. I just hope they push it and make some eternal playable cards. Even though EDH has plenty of tutors available, I don't know if I would bother with the melding thing, except for Brusela (since you'll always have half of it readily available).

>>47989513
>>47989514
IT'S HAPPENING

>>47989605
You're paying 7 mana to cast any card at all.

It doesn't matter if that card forces someone to literally give you a blowjob, no one spends that much mana in this card game. You might as well concede if you're planning on playing a card that costs more than 4 mana.

>>47989681
>no one ever cast dragonlord atarka
>no one ever casts ulamog
>no one has ever won with tooth and nail

>>47989655
Odric could handle it. No need to bother Sigarda.

>>47989681
Ulamog is still in top tier standard decks?

>>47989377
>brisela literally just stapled the keywrds together and totaled the power and toughness
good job wotc.

also the mechanics article said there were three pairs of meld cards, so brisela, hanweir, and the rat people are it.

>>47989699
They cheat them in, they don't cast them.

>>47989681
That is unless you're playing esper TITI control.

>>47989713
Why the fuck did they introduce this mechanic in the 2nd set? Why was this not it's own 1st set? >>4

>>47989720
>they don't cast them

Confirmed for not knowing a fucking thing.

>>47989681
>this fucking guy
You're right, rarely does someone hard cast something that's 7 mana, outside of commander when that shit happens every single game.

>>47989720
But Ulamog's cast trigger...

>>47989720
Is ramping considered cheating now?

>>47989377
dies to removal

such value, when I 3 for 1 you

timmy tears will be delicious

>>47989740
>>47989733
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>>47989726
Literally in no good format does anyone cast anything that costs more than 4 mana. If you do, you are not playing a good format.

>>47989672
I'm really hoping when the next set that includes Phyrexia comes out that we get compleated flip cards

>>47989757
So you're saying the only good format is Tiny Leaders?

>>47989757
>Tron

>>47989713
That's a shame.

>>47989757
what fucking format do you play? limited? Legacy? Jesus fucking christ.

>>47989749
>timmy tears
You mean your own tears where you either die to this being unable to cast any removal spell in your hand or die to any other half decent deck for actually playing >3cmc removal spells?

>>47989749
enjoy your 4 mana removal spell sir.

>>47989757
>tron isn't good
>cryptolith rites isn't good

Fuck off back to your boring sneak and show mirrors fuck boy.

I would like to calmly state that these cards suck and are disappointing.

>>47989757
Force of Will?

>>47989757
But anon, commander is the best format if you don't like standard/modern/legacy/vintage rotation.

>>47989724
They're testing the waters to do this shit in the future.

>>47989792
I love it when people start hardcasting FoW

>>47989769
>scrub thinks that modern is a good format
fucking kek

>>47989757
Will this faggot ever tell us what format he plays? Or does he realize he fucked up with his stupid bullshit and is avoiding scrutiny?

>>47989795
>legacy/vintage
>rotation
what the fuck, I could understand modern since they ban shit every month instead of letting the meta adjust to it but look up what the other formats are about before posting

>>47989377
Can't they, like, give the thing a new name? Brisela sounds weird.

>>47989819
I think he means tournaments where they rotate those formats, not a rotation within legacy/vintage.

>>47989819
He could be talking about the rotating tournament formats or the fact that the meta in Legacy changes to whatever the flavour of the month deck is (miracles,sneak and show) whenever some big name wins consistantly with a deck.

>>47989439
Fuck I hope they make some G/B emerge cards.

>>47989520
Cryptolith fragment will go straight into hidetsugu edh deck

>>47989681
>Modern is the only format

When are the other sites dropping their spoilers? I want to see some good shit, not this fucking yugioh LELdrazi XD shit.

>>47989892
I HAVE TO READ THE SAME FUCKING COMMENT FOR EVERY SINGLE CARD THAT GETS SPOILED
>"Ohh wow this is PERFECT for my X deck in commander"
FUCKING EDH FAGS GET OUT REEEEEEE

So you need to get a Rare and a Mythic in your TWO packs of Eldritch Moon

Why does Wizards hate draft now?

>>47989802
>never seen a hardcast FoW

Fucking casuals.

>>47989939
I feel that they'll adjust the amount of mythics and rares so it will be SLIGHTLY easier to meld.

>>47989935
Its okay anon someday you will play Magic for fun :^ )

>>47989939
>wizards fucks every other format for these god damn limited faggots for the past infinity sets
>finally makes a card for constructed
>WHY HAS WIZARDS FORSAKEN US

about time you assholes felt the burn.

>>47989520
I'm more interested in Gnarlwood Dryad.

Delver decks might be viable again with her, but then I remember WotC is literally starving that format of any decent cantrips.

And I weep.

>>47989935
Fuck off. Its a valid statement and I dont care for edh either

>>47989939
You do realize getting either one of Bruna or Gisela (especially Gisela) means you're going to firebomb the competition?

>>47989974
Dryad can go into temur traverse. I dont know if it will be good, its just the only deck that can get delirium consistently.

>>47989970
EDH isn't magic, it's some disgusting aberration that defies most mtg rules, you might as well be playing YGO or HEX.

FACT: Only autists play EDH

>>47989991
It's just the special snowflake signaling that drives me mad, EDH fags are the worst.
No one fucking cares about your special deck in your shitty fringe non-format.

i dont care about any of these just give me 4 thalias and fuck off with your yugioh meme format

>>47989935
>wizards made EMA shit because "muh limited"
>cry when you don't get to assemble your megazord every draft.

Limited players should be necklaced.

>>47990021
Isn't that pretty much the case with most mythics?

If you don't get a mythic then your deck building had better be up to snuff.

>>47990033
(You)

>>47989377

a 4/3 Flying First Strike Lifelink for 2WW?

At Mythic. So it'll be $150+ for a playset. Great.

>>47990033
don't worry champ, the EDH fags won't be in your in becoming a pro player

:^)

>>47989939
They seem to be doing a decent job of making the components playable on their own. Getting both gets you some great stuff but it's not necessary for either to be playable. I dislike the mechanic, but they're not screwing it up that badly.

Now my question is what happens if you try to Meld with a Clone?

>>47990069
>Now my question is what happens if you try to Meld with a Clone?

I think that's the purpose of the "if you OWN and control" clause.

>>47990033
>complaining about edh
You can complain, and justifiably complain, about "muh spirit of edh", but all in all, edh is an awesome format if you don't have the money for playsets of a card, or are a collector in general.

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at least Gisela gave us one more nice leg shot on her way out.

>>47990045
>most
Half usually.

>>47989757
Mate, in fucking Vintage 5cmc spells see play, not to mention Legacy.

>>47990069
They explicitly mention you cannot meld with clones on the website. They do mention hanweir land can totally exile a clone, but neither will return.

It is probably the actual rules of "Meld"as we haven't seen it that excludes clones.

>>47990090
Dragonlord Dromoka was a vintage playable card for five minutes

>>47990033
Why anon seems like you dont have any friends to play edh with.

>>47989377
>Brisela
>Brise la!
That means "Break her" in French.

They succeded. Muh waifu.

>>47990086
I guess none of the Innistrad Angels had the willpower to hold out sans Sigarda.

guess that ranks Zendikar Angels higher on the tier list then.

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I was just rebuilding Grimgrin EDH yesterday.
This seems like a really solid inclusion.

>>47990197
same for my Grixis Zombies.

looking forward to more zombies.

>>47990175
I think the point is "playable in causal" isn't really an interesting statement. That 2/2 flier for 3 might be good in my white fliers deck, but that's uninteresting information.

>>47990147
What about Force of Will?

>>47990197
I'm glad we're back to hot as fuck sexual predator LIliana instead of ugly man face like we had on Dark realms.

>>47990195
Sigarda has hexproof.

Never played MtG before but thinking of going to the Eldritch Moon pre-release. What should I know? What color cards should I play? White and black seem coolest. Not really interested in werewolves, red seems too aggressive and I'm probably not smart enough to play a highly technical deck like blue.

>>47990233
Colors in limited are defined by their commons and uncommons. We don't know the commons and uncommons yet.

>>47990230
I don't think that translates to "lore" as so literally as we believe, but yes, this is why she wasn't corrupted.

>>47990224
Calling Force a 5 mana spell is very misleading. It's like calling Daze a 2 mana spell, or Gush a 5 mana spell.

They said that there are only 3 meld cards in eldritch moon and all 3 have already been revealed. No more meld cards. Sucks because I think they are pretty cool and a couple more would have been nice.

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>>47989757
>Craterhoof Behemoth has never been cast in a game of Magic

>>47990233
>What color cards should I play?
You play with what your pool give you.

>What should I know?
At least a general understanding on how the game is played.
Ask the shop owner about the prerel. Remember to bring sleeves, a pen, and some dice.
Also, have fun.

>>47990263
They're probably testing the waters.

It's kind of not great to me anyway.

>>47989377
time to buy an odric playset?

>>47990233
>What should I know?
The rules of the game. Don't go to a tournament without knowing how to play. Learn first.

>What color cards should I play?
Depends on what you open. At a prerelease, you build a 40-card deck from 6 boosters and as many Plains, Islands, Swamps, Mountains, and Forests as you'd like. Typically, that's 15-7 creatures, 6-9 noncreature spells, and 16-18 lands. What you're able to play successfully is gonna depend on what cards are in your packs. How each color actually plays out will vary a bit from set to set.

>>47990195
>guess that ranks Zendikar Angels higher on the tier list then.
Thing is, due to the cryptoliths, Emmys corrupting powers is magnified incredibly, so Innistrad is taking a much worse hit than Zendikar

I'm hype for the set, just gotta find a way to justify getting to the prerelease that's 5 hours by car away.

>>47990086
Literally Lightning from FF13.

>>47989377
So MTG is now doing yugioh style synchro fusions and shit?

>>47990233
First, you wait for the entire set to be spoiled.
Then, if you are really new, watch a set review.
I would recommend either checking out "The Magic Show" on youtube, or LRCast.com.

The Magic Show is a bit more casual, as in only one of the 2 guys doing them is a pro, but Brad Nelson is my favourite pro player by far, plus the set reviews they make are always comfy, although Evan might get on your nerves sometimes.

Limited Resources has better, and more accurate predictions and information, as well as more content in general. You'll really learn the ins and outs of both a set and limited in general.

The set reviews for SOI are already out, so definitely watch those.
Moon should follow a week or so after the entire set has been spoiled.

>>47989681
> What is mana ramping?
Aren't you just the cutest lil thing?

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>>47990367
no, duel masters style fusions. why would wotc rip of another company when they can rip off themselves?

>>47989377
All that I can think of is that if Phyrexia had invaded, we could have gotten Gisela and Bruna in Elesh style.

Why don't WotC switch to one set blocks? Because even in the two set format the screw up all the sets After the first.

>>47990449
You mean skinless corpses wearing toilets?

>>47989377
They just remind me too much of Knights of Sidonia. I like the concept though. Also it seems well executed (as in 'actually playable').

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>>47990515
Stop.

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>>47990515

>>47989570
What set symbol it that???

>>47989377
They ACTUALLY called it Brisela
lmao

>>47990553
Tempest Remastered, an online-only set

>>47990228
I like most of Gregory's pieces, but the M12 planeswalkers were uniformly terrible.

>>47989514
Scornful Egotist doesn't cast Wretched Gryff for free

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>>47990345
> What is facial structure?
> What is actual armour?
> What is deep red hair being bleached by the corruption?

>>47990058
I was going to call you out since the card does nothing the turn it enters but then I realised there is no lightning strike equivalent in standard.
Could be a chase mythic but at least it is legendary.

>>47990581
Yep, his Chandra is horrible too, looks like a monkey.

>>47989377
this is straight up out of those Valkyrie Hentai videos where they all get mindbroken and give into the dark side.

>>47990636

Usually they don't become the tentacle monster though.

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>>47990636
Doujin fuckin when?

>>47989658
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>>47989616
Lay off. Not everyone has been in magic for 15 years. Nothing in the past 4 sets had white re animation.

>>47990437
Huh, I saw bits of the duel masters anime back in the day and assumed it was a yugioh parody without an actual game behind it.

>>47990515
I still fapped to it.

That is all.

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>>47989757
STFU and go play against ur "Muhracles" vs "Muhracles" YOU ELITIST FUCKING TWAT

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>>47990735

Emeria Shepherd.

>>47990735
Except that 7 mana sorcery with rebound from Khans block.

Nice samefag by the way.

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>>47989377
>Brisela

the concept is cool but that fucking name

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>>47990773
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>>47990764
>>47990767
Brutal

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Stop horsing around and focus on the spoilers, people.

>>47989424
This flavor makes me sad. Hanweir deserved better.

>>47989604
Sun Titan is the first that comes to my mind

>>47990437
didn't pokemon do this shit too?

>>47990735
White gets resurrection super often.
Even if you played with any of the commander Precons you'd see it. They get it less often and it's usually more restrictive than black, but with no downsides.

Stop being mad because you're wrong. Also Emeria Shepherd and Profound Journey.

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>>47990735
Sit the fuck down kid before you blow your asshole out again.

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>>47990735
Oh and before you put a 'not a staple card in constructed' excuse, here's another one.

>>47990820
Did you read The Hanweir Chronicle? They were asking for it the entire time.

>>47989520
That's some Color out of Space shit with the Cryptolith.

>>47990813
I want the nightmares to attract Ashiok to Innistrad
Since it's already ruined , I think mai waifu deserves more attention

>>47990437
Pokemon did it ages ago with legendary cards.

Reminder that duelmasters has a nicol bolas and a jace beleren card.

I seriously don't give a fuck about this block, at all. This is all shit as is every other Eldrazi set with intentionally bad art.

>>47990735
You were just a newfag, and now you are a newfag and a retard.

>>47990852
>mai waifu
>Ashiok

Right....

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>>47989377
>they're adding fusion creatures
When are they going to introduce Synchros or XYZs?

>wake up
>see >>47989377
What.

>>47989424
will r/w humans be a thing or are werewolves that bad?

>>47990813
Ah! No spooky horse! I don't want it. Go away.

>>47990889
We had fusing dragons in Mirage, man.

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>>47990916
W/r humans is already a thing in standard.

>>47990921
Got a problem with horses buddy?

>>47990848
I didn't, but look how eager they are on Garrison. Idiots don't know what's coming.

Anyway, seriously, only three meld cards? Grow some balls, WOTC.

>>47990849
I definitely appreciate that as long as they're pretending to have brought cosmic horror to Gothic horrorland, that they're actually bringing cosmic horror to the party
1/2 point for the spooky rock, because it's not an asteroid but is touched by emrakul
1 point for ruining a random-ass farmers life
1 point for spooky colors
1 point for "corrupting effect of stone on farm" (desolate, stripped bare trees)
0 points for the farmer losing his family to it
3.5/5 points on my offhand comparison to source material

>>47990589
But it does cast a 3/4 flier for 1 blue mana. Also, there is probably going to be a rare emerge creature that'll warp this format.

>>47990948
Man, fuck these cards. This is all chase bullshit.

>>47990879
Ashiok is my favorite planeswalker
Waifu may be a stretch, but still my favorite

>>47990876
And you're an oldfag, a retard, and angry.

>>47990976
Ashiok literally has no gender according to WotC.

>>47990812
But I'm right that white needs more revival effects. Hell, emeria shepherd never saw constructed play and that 7 mana sorcery was never seen in any top 8 to this day.

>>47990575
Thats great. One of the few cool things about MTGO are the older remastered set releases. Wish I had the money for both paper and digital Mtg product.

I don't recall exactly what it was about last time, but the last time people whined about magic copying Yugioh, it turned out that 100% of the whiners where ex-ygo players who had decided at some point that yugioh and all conceivable aspects of it, including mechanics, were somehow for babies...so they feel that Magic having anything similar to a yugioh mechanic is making Magic into a game for babies. These people have autism.

>>47990948
http://hanweirchronicle.com/

It's a cool little story. It helps you see what they went through.

>>47991004
probably trap cards.

>>47990845
That one is pretty shit desu. Requires a filled graveyard of low cmc cards and is a situational blocker card that gets canceled out by a one mana counterspell.>>47990839
Pick the Brain says hello.

>>47990993
Well there's no gender-neutral form of waifu or husbando so I'm doing the best I can here
"Terrifying androgynous posthuman" floats my boat, anon

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>>47990974
>>47990889
>>47990907

I love how people act like they didn't know this was coming. This shit was extremely obvious with the test-print endbringer and the previously spoiled "meld" card. I don't know what you fags expected. Oh, and for all you neckbeards parroting "muh yugioh:"

>Make a by-the-books set with nothing new
We hate it!
>Make a set with wild new ideas
We hate that too!

Fuck off.

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You said the flip side of this card would be shit /tg/.

You said this to me and you were wrong.

It's so beautiful. Red is going to be great again!

>>47991020
>rally the Ancestors is pretty garbage
>Literally a meta defining deck for months.

Have you ever played Standard, ever? I don't like the format, myself, but even I know Rally the Ancestors was dominant.

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>>47991029

yeeees

Can't wait for the Eldrazi to be dead and go away forever

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>>47991029
>Mardu Meld ft. Ever After

>>47991022
I think the closest you get there is "cocksleeve".
If you haven't got a cock, you're out of luck.

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>>47990978

>>47991020
>Rally is bad

Lel, now I know you've shifted to baiting because you got BTFO and need to deflect.

>>47989377
What the fuck is Emrakul's problem

>>47990589
You still have to pay the 1 blue mana, since emerge only cares about CMC

>>47991029
to be fair, the creature half is okay but is really a lesser rabblemaster, and the land is solid but minor, with the meld ability being priced a bit steep to get it done easily. it's not shit, but no one's losing their minds over it (ironically?)

>>47991070
PMSing.

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>>47991043
>Put two 1/1 red Humans
turns into
>Put two 3/2 Eldrazi Horrors

>>47990993
Well, Maro's answer to "Is Ashiok male or female" was "Yeah, probably", then explaining why it didn't actually matter, so yes, Ashiok has a physical sex but has abandoned any form of gender/sexual identity.

>>47990916
I don't know that the W/r humans deck that currently exists wants either the Garrison or the Battlements.

Three mana for a 2/3 seems bad when you can already get that with Town Gossipmonger or Thraben Inspector + any pump effect. Though maybe the fact that it spits out two Humans every time it attacks makes it at least worth trying. It's no Hero of Bladehold, but it might be close enough, especially with Thalia's Lieutenant.

As for the Battlements, I'm not sure the deck can afford a colorless land. Giving a creature haste to continue putting on pressure after a wrath might be good.

Pretty underwhelming spoilers today, they all feel like they're aimed at Standard.

>>47991029
It's nice that they're not legendary like the angels, but I'm not sure they're what red needed to be playable again

>>47990974
It won't be good. Don't worry. There is only three of them. It'll be cute.

>>47991010
Thanks. I'll check it. I am super behind on Mtg writing.

>>47991039
He's just baiting now anon. Ignore him.

>>47991070
Me'merakul

>>47991014
Oh yeah, that was it. It's hard to believe there was a time where trap cards DIDN'T exist and dominate every format.

You know what this calls for...Return to Tarkir Meld Dragonriders!

>>47991070
>Not wanting to become one with everything and join with the one true god
Come and join us, anon. We finally have purpose in life. A hundred hands shitpost as one

>>47990945
Ah! Horses are already scary. Don't make them scarier.

>>47990952
It is a pretty solid ref. I didn't expect it. I wonder if we'll get more, but I'm not sure what you could get away with referencing. Not like they can just throw some Mi Go in.

>>47991043
>6RRR plus saccing a land for a 7/4 with trample and haste and two 3/2s
Are people thinking this is playable?

>>47991115
>It's hard to believe there was a time where trap cards DIDN'T exist and dominate every format.
I hope you mean in YGO, because I literally forgot Magic ever had trap instants for a long while.

>>47991107
Well me'medrakul, my friend.

>>47989377
do you think Gisela would've been too powerful with 4 toughness? like enough to see modern play?

>>47991132
>attacks for 13 damage
>not playable

>>47991039
He probably got in when oath came out.

>>47991132
>implying the cards you meld aren't gonna give you value before you meld them.

this will see standard play for sure

>>47991115
>It's hard to believe there was a time where trap cards DIDN'T exist and dominate every format.

When? Trap Hole and Mirror Force were from the first two sets.

>>47991138
4 toughness is with all those abilities would likely make it a modern all star, as it is she is still very good.

>>47991136
It was a joke. Trap cards caused a big shit storm and they abandoned the concept entirely. I don't know why. It played well and had lots of design room.

>>47991028
No, I'm going what because of what happened to Bruna and Gisela.

Did everything that AVR brought us have to die in a fire (or in this case get corrupted and fused together into the stuff of nightmares)

>>47991132
The creature looks playable by itself and the meld will be a game ender when you've run out of steam, not something to slam turn 6.

>>47991085
Clearly, one of those Eldrazi horrors WAS the two humans...and maybe a small piece of wall.

>>47991158
Declaration in Stone.

Thanks for saccing a land, a creature and paying 6RRR, anon.

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>>47991080
>>47991097
>>47991132

>BEING THIS SALTY

YEEEES

MAKE RED GREAT AGAIN

>>47991160
You mean when Reflector Mage made Rally even stronger for several months?

>>47991054
I believe that any form of attempted mating with Ashiok would not involve Ashiok on bottom so my state of cock-have or cock-not-have is irrelevant

>>47991132
The individual pieces are playable. The Meld is all upside. It will let you finish out a game.

>>47991138
They just don't want Baneslayer in Standard. Even if she's legendary.

>>47991132
Both Hanweir Battlements and Hanweir Garrison are playable on their own, melding is just a bonus finisher.

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So is this any good?

>>47991177
They were created entirely as a fluff mechanic for DnD world.

>>47991191

>a sorcery

good job killing my pet after it already ravaged you m8

>>47991191
>My opponent has a creature with haste that will create two tokens when it attacks
>I will stop it with a sorcery that also does not get rid of the tokens

You didn't think this through, did you?

>>47991191
That's a sorcery. The thing still attacked you for 13 and left behind two 3/2s, plus whatever the Garrison did before that. And you gave them a Clue on top of that.

I don't think it's great, but it's not as bad as you're trying to make it sound.

>>47991198
i'm not sure if the garrison is playable, but ifnit sees play, this is why you meld it. when you run out of things to do and have more mana than you'll ever need you toss out the trampling 3/2 maker and suddenly your opponent has a whole new scale to have to cope with. imagine playset if garrison while the land is only one or two-of

>>47991191
Sorcery, man. You're dead before your turn rolls around.

>>47991197
I bet Ashiok gives good helmet.

>>47991132
The thing is, each card can function well by itself. The creature part is a 3 mana token generator and aggro decks will pounce on something that that and the land gives haste for effectively 2 mana. The transformation is just icing on the cake.

>>47991094
>2/3 for 3.
Have you forgotten that when it attacks it drops Human Tokens? It's a Bomb with Thalia's Liutenant and Hanweir Militia Captain.

>>47991205
Legendary tutor on a stick

Honestly I like it

>>47991131
>Not like they can just throw some Mi Go in
Lovecraft lived and wrote about a hundred years ago, I'm pretty sure they could just throw in some Mi Go or shoggoths if they wanted

>>47991205
>that afro

kek

>>47991205
Not bad, usually comes down when you can already cast a lot of the good legendaries that are already seeing play. Ojutai, Avacyn, etc

>>47991205
Fun/10.

>>47991205
Its amazing

>>47991205
Tutors are 99% always good or great man.

>>47991205
thats a limited bomb. it also could be used as top of the curve to search for new Thalia or flipwalkers in standard in a midrange deck

>>47990948
What makes you think there's only going to be three in the entire set?

>>47991243
Having that Avacyn in hand though is pretty relevant.

It also curves into dragonlord Dromoka if that becomes a thing or finds your Gisela.

>>47991233
>Have you forgotten that when it attacks it drops Human Tokens?

Did you read only part of one sentence?

>Though maybe the fact that it spits out two Humans every time it attacks makes it at least worth trying. It's no Hero of Bladehold, but it might be close enough, especially with Thalia's Lieutenant.

>>47991191
Ok, I swing at you for 6, then pay 3 red and bolt your face, next game?

>>47991168
>TFW I remember playing OG YGO in highschool before it all went utterly insane
>Literally every deck (No, actually literally), regardless of strategy or theme or player skill, ran Pot of Greed, Graceful Charity, Witch of the Black Forest, Mirror Force, 2-4x Trap Hole, Magic Cylinder, Negate Attack, Raigeki, and Dark Hole
It was a hilariously broken time.

>>47991193
We were taking about re animator, not shitty rally effects.

>>47991238
I meant that having Emmy's influence cause other alien inspectors entities show up might be a bit too outlandish. MTG doesn't really have space.

>>47991180
Yes. Because creatively bankrupt and White not being able to have nice things. And they're forcing a Black heroine down our throats with the new Liliana if the leaked information is accurate, which is absolutely another detail people saw coming a mile off.

>>47991259
Tabak said so.

>>47989520
>Madness cost higher than the actual CMC
>on an instant
fucking why

>>47991265
>2-4x
>4

Nice cheating there.

My group was the same though, I remember people getting mad salty at my secret rare mirror force and magic cylinder.

>>47991205
A 4/4 first strike is a major combat hell for any opponent. Being a legendary tutor for the melding angels is just icing on the cake.

>>47991259
not him but it says it right here

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/eldritch-moon-mechanics-2016-06-27

>There are three pairs of meld cards: Hanweir Battlements and Hanweir Garrison, plus two more you can read about in other articles on DailyMTG today.

>>47990342
What blasted shithole do you live in? I have four prerelease events in a fifteen mile radius from my house and my town has a population of maybe 10,000

>>47991205
4/4 first strike for 5 is good. Ensuring you get your 6cmc legendary bomb on turn 6 is cool. Don't play enough standard to know what people would do with it.

>>47991267

>Have you ever played Standard, ever? I don't like the format, myself, but even I know Rally the Ancestors was dominant.
>He probably got in when oath came out.
>You mean when Reflector Mage made Rally even stronger for several months?

We were talking about the Rally deck in Standard, you illiterate shit.

>>47991294
>>47991282
That sucks. At least all of them are decent, I guess.

>>47991286
It creates card advantage if you use effects that allow you to discard.

>all 3 BFMs already spoiled on day 1
well there goes the excitement out the window

this would be a super fucking cool set if there were 5-10 of these meld sets

>>47991231
Ashiok does have very nice lips but I'd be worried about the possibility of sharpened teeth

>>47990889
I think technically this is closer to synchros than fusions, cause you don't need a third spell to fuse it and they need to be on the field already.

>>47991298
Nope. Go all the way up the chain of posts and you'll see the original was saying that white rarely gets reanimator.

>>47989538
Too slow even for mono red burn. Maybe in a rdw type deck.

>>47991312
Is it confirmed there are only 3? I get they take up 2 slots each but 3 seems like a pretty small amount.

>>47991323
Synchros have generic materials, though.

It's more like Contact fusion but not shit.

>>47991296
Find Avacyn, Gisela, Linvala, or Ojutai with it, I imagine. Curving this into Ojutai with Dispel backup seems alright.

>>47991289
mirror force wasn't a secret rare friend

>>47991070
Emrakul is just being Emmy. Ask what is wrong with Nahiri and Sorin to let their semi-immortal, negligent hate fucking ruin two decent planes

>>47991295
Not the US for one, so theres no "LGS", only magic-clubs

>>47991312
Ehh... you don't want to many of these for limited, as you might only get half of a puzzle in your pool. Yeah sure, they are usually fine on their own, but at least one card has almost all its taken up by the meld text.
Also these cards work best if they enable their own combo, so that's pretty much the text of the second card.

>>47991269
Oh true
I'm sure they could make an emrakul thing that referenced Mi Go or Old Ones pretty easily

>>47991350
It was an Ultra right? I think it came out as a secret after I stopped playing or some shit.

>>47991289
>Nice cheating there.
Oh right, YGO limit is three cards, isn't it? I'd completely forgotten. We were all super duper casual anyway, except the one asshole with an Exodia deck that comboed out in like 4 turns who nobody ever played with because he'd win absurdly quickly and be a snotty asshole about it.

>>47991350
it was probably printed as a secret at some point, I'd be more surprised if it weren't.

>>47991329
Are you aware of how having a conversation works?

In case you're not, here's what happens: the topic changes organically as people contribute. White reanimation led to Rally, which led to discussing its time in Standard. It's not hard to follow.

>>47991286
Fuck blue

>>47991345
Ah, good point. Haven't played in a while, forgot about contact fusion.

>>47991423
what boring art considering just how insanely iconic her older cards art(s) are.

>>47991423
>not sure if I like this artwork or the promo better
God damn it.

>>47991433
Better than the promo, which gives her this weird olive-skinned look.

>>47991423
Fucking miles better than the foosty manface that the promo has.

>>47991423
>Thalia is now Kristen Stewart
And here come the Twilight comparisons again.

So if a melded creature dies and goes to the graveyard, does it disconnect and do both cards flip back to their original states, or does it stay as the melded card in your graveyard?

>>47991457
It does the same thing a normal flip card does.

>>47990058
Dunno, Gideon is already in the 4cmc and he does more than Gisels the turn he enters in the field.

>>47991457
Considering all flip cards return to their normal state when in exile/graveyard/hand what do you think?

>>47991404
>Are you aware of how having a conversation works?
Yes, I talk about whatever I want to talk about while the other person makes grunting noises and looks at their phone, eventually I get bored and let them out of the corner and they run away for some reason. Conversation achieved.

>>47991457
They probably flip back, like the other flip cards.

>>47991361
I see. Well I hope you get something closer to you sooner than later

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>>47991205
What's with all the niggers?

>>47991404
Rally was a shitty effect that never won. Next topic.

>>47991457
They become two cards again.

Cards always have the properties of their front faces in any zone other than the battlefield.

>>47991312
Did rat people's fusion side get spoiled?

>>47991457
Read the article. And yeah, they flip back and hit yard.

>>47991494
>>47989400

>>47991467
>>47991474
It's transform, not flip. Fucking newfags can't keep their mechanics straight. This isn't god damn kamigawa.

>>47990086
>Giant tentacles beginh a female angel.

God japanesse players will be excited with this set.

>>47991509
THEY LITERALLY FUNCTION THE SAME.

Why is it that everything with Thalia's name on it seems to be at absolute worst decent

>>47991467
>>47991474
>>47991480
Thank you.

>>47991471
Fuck you.

Difference between awesome mtg players and douchebag try hards right there.

Anyone else hype for Battle for Innistrad in 3-4 years?

>>47991423
I don't know, depending on how much the foiling and the photo change how the promo version looks I might actually prefer this.

>>47991444
I have no problem with olive, but the facial structure looks a little wonky on the promo.

>>47991509
"But remember that meld cards aren't double-faced cards, so they can't transform."

It is called meld, it is a new thing.

>>47989377
Screencap this
When the phrexians invade some other world, they will meld with artifacts from that plane.

>>47991524
Not only can you not keep the names straight, you don't even know how to use the word literally properly. How retarded can you get and still be functional?

>>47991539
>Difference between awesome mtg players and douchebag try hards right there.

Not that anon, but why don't you just fuck off back to your CFB comment sections and mtgsalvation?

>>47991539
>mad because he needs to be spoonfed basic shit and can't use his own brain/google

If magic would stop catering to blithering retards like you we wouldn't end up with such watered down product.

>>47991541
Remember that you saw that spoiled promo through a wrinkled plastic wrapper.

>>47991581
How do they not function the same?

>>47991558
I know that, I just can't stand people mixing up flip and transform.

I recently started playign Magic, do these transforming cards mean you need THREE separate physical cards in the deck to make them work? That just seems like a really bad idea for 60 and 40 card decks, especially since you need to luck into all 3 pieces in draft for it to work?

Or am I not understanding this correctly?

>>47991612
No, you just need the two. They form one big card on their backsides.

>>47991345
There were some good Contacts, like Gladiators or Chimeratech (admittedly, Chimeratech is good for the wrong reasons in this comparison).

>>47991478
We wuz thalia's lancers n shieet

>>47991582
>angry for being an asshat

I bet you're one of those people who don't announce anything they do on their turn, tap things extremely quickly, make people at prereleases feel like shit, and so that stupid hand motion and then follow with "your go."
You people are disgusting.

>>47991612
The backs of the cards are the merged cards.

There will be at least one broken Emerge card in the set

>>47991579
that would be neat. they are probably testing the waters with a few meld cards in this set. if it sees success they might bring it back

>>47991205
I expect this will be in 99% of all commander decks that have white in it.

>>47991583
I didn't realize this board was the argument central of idiots. Wow. Someone asks a legitimate question because "holy shit, someone might be new to mtg". People need to stop being mean. Holy crap. Maybe we all should try to have FUN

>>47991591
I will agree they're similar, but not the same. I just want the proper fucking terminology used. I know no one is going to on my account, it just makes me rage.

>>47991540
they are probably locking emmy away for now

>>47991655
>Supporting spoonfeeding
You're everything wrong with fourchins

>>47991625
>>47991633
Alright thanks, that makes a lot more sense, but wouldn't it mean you have to bring sleeves to draft to hide the back?

I've only watched some people draft a bit I haven't actually done it yet

>>47991693
Yes, but it's a good idea to bring sleeves to draft anyway.

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>>47991655
>this leddit tier post

Oh I get it you're le trole man! Hahaha simply eric!

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>>47991693
You could always use checklist cards if you don't have sleeves, although its preferred that you use sleeves to prevent ruining any cards.

>mfw at a Prerelease some guy was using $140 worth of pulls sleeveless.

>>47991693
Have you not opened a SOI pack before? There are double faced cards and checklist cards for that reason.

And you should bring sleeves to draft at all times in case you open a chase mythic.

>>47991684
>spoonfeeding

So when a player asks you how a mechanic works or asks you how a ruling works, you just shout in an autistic fit of rage and make fun of the other player for not knowing rules because they are new?

I rest my case.

>>47991132
You are ignoring the fact that those 5RRR are payed not at once but throughout multiple turns. You can play this T5 or even sooner with some ramp.

It also helps that the land is really, really solid and that the creature is no slouch either. Plus, you can meld them at instant speed which leads to combat trickery.

>>47991655
The person is not asking for an opinion or advice, he is asking about something he can find on the same time he spent waiting here on google.

It is like asking, "How do I make mana?" this is a discussion site, not spoonfeeding.

>>47991751
Well a pretty common mantra is "Read the fucking card"

>>47991751
>if only there was a resource I could use while I'm on the internet to tell me information after I search for things.
>instead, I'll go onto 4chan like a fucking baby and make them coddle me.

>>47991751
There is a difference between spoonfeeding and leading somebody to the true answer through logic.

All that anon did was show examples of basically the same mechanic working in a certain way, and then asked the anon wether or not he can see a pattern.

Nice strawman though, my le sir *tips fedora*

>>47991767
Or you could just answer the question and not be an ass about it. Is it that hard to do?

Didn't think so. That's the difference between a try hard mtg player and an actual nice one.

>>47991814
Can you stop it?

You're making me feel like a jackass for helping your retarded ass now.

Abandon thread!

I actually didn't realize mtg had such a terrible playerbase.

>>47991814
>That newfag can ask whatever he wants!
>You are not allowed to respond however you want!

I genuinely hope you are just shitposting, no human bean should be this fucking retarded.

>>47991838
>>47991814
Leddit incarnate.

>>47991814
Yeah, if every single person doesn't answer every single stupid question they are asses. I would rather live with asses than complete retards that wants everything handed to them on a silver plate.

>>47991858
Combination of spoiler season and summer is going to be awful.

>>47991612
They have nonstandard backs, the two combine to form the card.

>>47990813
HORSEARONI

>>47991812
>>47991831
>>47991856
>>47991866
.....I feel terrible for the players at the prereleases you go to. I bet they leave feeling stupid for asking about mechanics in a collectible card game.
I guess I go by that whole thing "Be kind to other players, especially if they are new." It's not going to kill you or hurt anything by helping someone out if they ask a question. What had this game become?

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