Tell me why I shouldn't hate the fucking Eldrazi?

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Look at these guys.

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Fuck them.

>>47935611
Do whatever you want faggot.

Love 'emrakul, hate 'emrakul, we'll all become onerakul.

>>47935611
Because the art is nice, and the effects of the cards are at least flavorful?

>>47935677
Eldrazi aren't Phyrexians...

>>47935611
You should.

The Eldrazi are shit and I hope the Jacetice League power of friendship Emrakul so fucking hard the Eldrazi retroactively never existed.

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>>47935687
The art is the only likeable thing about them. They are fucking assholes.

You can put low-cost mana siphoners on the field, place lands that give double-colorless, and have opponents exile cards every fucking turn.

>>47935693
>he isn't keeping up with the lore
The eldrazi incursion at Innistrad has been a giant assimilation hug-fest.

>>47935693
True, but Emrakul's really acting like one on Innistrad right now.

>>47935722
Eldrazi may not be great but they're still better than Jace and his faggot friends.

>>47935783
Kek.

>>47935611
this mainly just messes with the turn order temporarily. Unless you've got some strat to get Haste on him, he's going to eat removal. He won't end the game himself.
>>47935625
this is pretty nasty, yeah, but you need some sick mana ramping to get him out. As a win condition, he'll lose every time in modern.
>>47935644
this isn't that great, especially for a mythic. I'd honestly rate a fair amount of the Theros gods above this guy just because they all have Indestructible and can shake soft removal with a bit of work.

You're playing casually with friends and losing horribly, so you've come here for justification that it's the cards fault and not you being bad.
Piss off. Take more removal.

>>47935783
Ideally the the killing blow would wipe them both out, leaving an extremely confused Tamiyo behind to shrug and fuck off to some other plane and masturbate over their moon.

>>47935801
>Unless you've got some strat to get Haste on him, he's going to eat removal.
If your opponent still has removal that can kill Emmy in their hand after you Mindslaver them, it's entirely your own fault.

There's always the chance for a topdeck an answer on their real turn, but that comes down to luck.

>>47935611
Does this make Ugin's Nexus playable?

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Maybe I should have posted this fucker earlier.

>Exile own card
>Use this.

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>>47936025
Use with this too.
>Whenever Supplanter of Identity attacks you may exile another target non-token creature. If you do, Supplanter of Identity becomes a copy of that creature until the end of the turn. Return the exiled card to the battlefield under its owner's control at the begining of the next end step.

>>47935849
That's a fair point. I feel like control still gets around that just by volume of removal that will run you out of mana before it's gone. Emmy will generally come in at what, 8-10 mana? Even if he clears what's in hand you may still have card draw left, plus whatever he couldn't throw away.

That's what I get for skipping this set, huh?

>>47936025
>outside the game
Doesn't that mean your sideboard, not exile? At least in official games.

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>>47936066
I just started playing since Shadows of Innistrad. My god, is this true?

>>47936089
I remember that being the rule for an Eldrazi with a similar effect back in the first Zendikar block.

>>47936089
In tournaments, such as fnm, yes

>>47936066
Yes. Exile is still a zone in the game, so you would have to pick something in your sideboard in a sanctioned event. If you play kitchen table however, that's a different story.

>>47936099
Spawnsire, that's right.

>>47936128
>If you play kitchen table however, that's a different story.

>Manage to generate 20 mana for Spawnsire
>Leave the room
>Come back with 20 copies of each titan
If only.

>>47936066
>>47936128
The card literally says "Outside the game or in exile" so yes you can exile your stuff to play it.

>>47936171
If I had the money for twenty copies of each titan, I probably would. Realistically, I'd activate the ability and my friend would scoop, but I can always dream.

>>47936053
>Use with this too.
>Use Coax with Supplanter

So, let me get this straight.
Your plan here is to exile an Eldrazi you already have on the battlefield using Supplanter, so that you can then tutor it into your hand with Coax instead of allowing it to return to the battlefield at the end of the turn. Is that what you're suggesting?

>>47935801
>but you need some sick mana ramping to get him out.
are you for real

>>47936192
Ah, the line break threw me off and I missed the "or in exile" part.

>>47936231
So you can get the cast trigger again, obviously.

>>47936231

Then you can cast it again.

>>47935801
>him
>he's
>He
>himself
>him
>he'll

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>>47935644
>Fuck them.
ok

>>47936232
you've got about six turns before soul sisters beats you down.

>>47936275
>>47936281
That is pretty goddamn stupid.

You realize you can get any Eldrazi you want with Coax, right? You know what that means? You can go get another, different Eldrazi. You don't have to eat your own card advantage, you can get an additional Eldrazi to cast.

>>47936066
Read it again. "or in exile"

>>47936617
This has already been addressed.

>>47936580
When they're trying to get more Emmy on-cast triggers, they'll still lose card advantage if they grab another one. Legend rule is less of a thing than it was in the olden days, but it's still a thing.

>>47935677
>>47935693
I'mrakul, You'mrakul, We all'mrakul for Emrakul.

>>47936669
It's only relevant if you need to cast it again in the same turn. Otherwise you're robbing yourself of a blocker during your opponent's turn. There might be a tiny little corner case where once in a blue moon it's a good idea to do this. Saying "Play these cards together specifically for this interaction" is idiocy beyond words.

>>47936720

top kek

>>47935693
>Implying emrakul isn't the colorless Phyrexian lord

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Nice Eldrazi titan you got there. It would be a shame if, someone, lit them on fire. A lot of fire.

>>47937436
>Instant
Try again.

>>47937436
>Playing the game
Try again.

>>47937436
With the amount of mana it'd take for this to kill a big eldrazi you could prob just target the opponent and win

>>47935693
yet.

>>47935801
>I have no fucking idea what I'm talking about:the post

>>47936339
>memedern
And while we're at it
>tron not jamming your throat full of Karns and Coils by turn 3

we're only seen 1.5 eldrazi, so we have little to nothing by which we can judge them mechanically.
the lore, however, is some good shit. I'mrakul really digging this cosmic horror let me tell you. i hope they trap her in the moon or just straight-up fail to stop her in this block. this set makes me want to fuck a town.

>>47939133
shit my bad
*we've

I hope we can get back to phyrexians soon.

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>>47937436
>targeted coloured instant
>average mana cost of 13-15 mana to kill most titans anyway
>including doofing off with a 1-mana card for the surge cost
literally only redeeming factor is that you can target both the gribbly on the field and their controller

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I dunno I kinda like them

love them for what they are

>>47935783
Jace is pretty much the only well written character in the lore right now.

>>47939996

And even then he is one of the worst characters ever came up with. So stale and lame it hurts to look at his stupid face.

Not to mention the most BS walker when in D&R because "blue is the posterboy color lelelel"

They took the only plane without goblins or elves and shit on it with fucking kaiju.

Fucking disgusting nonsense.

>>47940527

There's always Theros :^)

>>47935611
>>47935625
>>47935644
Tell me about the big bad eldrazi player that defeated you, OP.

Also.. how do we go from this >>47935625
to this >>47935611

>takes three extremely powerful pre-mending planeswalkers to just contain them
>now plotwalkers kill 2/3 eldritch horrors, one of which has "infinite" in its name

>>47940606
It would be interesting if the Eldrazi were somehow affected by the Mending. Would that mean they are Plainswalkers themselves? They can travel between planes. Will we ever get an Eldrazi Planeswalker

>>47939206
>>47938018
>>47937942
>>47937887
Going for the lore reference guys, not actual gameplay....

>>47940679
The lore for immune to instants is going to be that chandra cant just burn her ass when she shows up. Lmaoing at your life

>>47940513
That really says something about the writing more than Jace himself.

>>47940679
The mechanics literally are tied into the lore.

Emrakul is immune to a quick solution and creeps in "unexpectedly" (obviously we all knew it was coming) for something so large.

>>47936025
>>47936066
>>47936089
>>47936099
>>47936116
>>47936128
>>47936171
>>47936192
>>47936202
Yes, in a sanctioned "outside the game" is only limited to your sideboard. But, in a casual game, you can go through your binder or wherever for cards you own to use for this card.

I love you'mrakul
You love me'mrakul
We're a happy family'mrakul

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>>47941091
Cast ALL the Thought-Nazis

the eldrazi are one of the worst things to hit magic, because they are boring.

The design decision to make them colorless creatures, but not artifact creatures was a mistake. It greatly hindered the ability to interact with them.

I've been playing magic since mirage, very few moments in time have as boring to play in as this current resurgence of eldrazi.

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>>47941136
>but not artifact creatures was a mistake
Norn pls go

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Tell me why I shouldn't fuck Arlinn Kord?

>>47940655
What's the point of an Eldrazi Planeswalker if they can naturally travel between planes?

>>47941260
She's a furry
I'd fuck her too

>>47941318
She's only a furry sometimes.

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>>47935611
because some of them are cute

>>47941324
Something tells me that a woman that transforms into a big ball of fur doesn't even bother shaving her human side at all.

She's a furry no matter what form she's in.

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>>47940537
>Eldrazi on Theros
Please, we all know who's coming to Theros.

>>47941366
Ah, you have a point there, guy.

Perhaps Arlinn is for hug not fug?

>>47941401
It would be perfect.


>Elspeth finally gets out of Nix only to witness the beginning of a Phyrexian invasion
>Watches as the entire plane, including the Gods themselves, collapse under the weight of the Phyrexian war machine
>Right before she leaves to warn the Jacetice League she witnesses the birth of the God of Compleation

>>47941136
>Eldrazi
>Artificial lifeform

>>47940606
You forgot
>had to set the mana of the whole Zendikar plane on fire to kill them

>>47941437
>>47941401
I was hoping the Eldrazi would fuck off until Return to Theros so we could see the Gods vs Eldrazi. But I guess getting them out of the way now us acceptable as well.

How pissed would Sarkhan be if the Eldrazi ate Tarkir?

>>47941303
Well, first, I think it would be an interesting card.

Second, it's been confirmed that basically anything with sentience can become a planeswalker. With a spark comes not only the ability to planeswalk, but immense magical power. And we also do not know how exactly they plainswalk. Is it a conscious effort, or is it more subconscious?

Or, perhaps, it would be a drone or a spawn that somehow gain sentience. What would cause that to happen? How did it form its own mind? What will it do now that it has independence? Would this be the birth of a fourth titan?

>>47941473
Baring Emracool being beaten in Eldritch Moon the next few sets are going to become "who can eat the multiverse faster, Eldrazi or Phyrexia?"

>>47941488
Well, Sarkhan better unite the dragonlords or his precious dragons are going to die.

>>47940582
>>Also.. how do we go from this >>47935625
> to this >>47935611(OP)

Emrakul got a haircut and started working out his tentacles

>>47941508
There's no such thing as death, only completion.

>>47941611
Well, it doesn't matter anyway since we're never going back to Tarkir.

>>47941611
I mean, technically death is a requirement for Phyresis, so.............

Phyrexians vs eldrazi

Who would win?

>>47941828
both

>>47941437
According to the lore threads Theros, of all places, would be one of the most difficult planes for Phyrexia to infiltrate and take.
>No artifice, so no metal or machines for the oil to be super effective against.
>Enchantment creatures can fight phyrexians all day without worrying about corruption by oil
>Gods can casually wipe out entire cities worth of phyrexians in a moment. Can't really set up a factory or plague engine when Heliod stabs it and the surrounding area away like a nuke
>Who knows the upper limits to their powers, for all we know Pharika could literally cure phyresis if people prayed to her hard enough.

>>47941828
>About to go all out
>Stop
>Realize they'd be unstoppable together
>1st Partition of the Multiverse commences

>>47941884
Except
>Phyrexia kills all humans
>Gods disappear
>Phyrexia wins

>>47941888
>Eldrazi regarding filthy colored things as worth talking to
Phyrexia loses just because their normal stuff doesn't work on Eldrazi

>>47941909
Oh sure, that would be the obvious weakpoint. But you say that like it'd be easy. They'd have to be able to make their way to a civilization center through all the gods and enchantment bullshit to slaughter the inhabitants. They can't just sleeper agent it because the gods, or at the very least Kruphix, would know exactly which one it is.
They'd be fighting the one thing that can actually outproduce their war machine simply because it doesn't need raw materials while even phyrexia does.

>>47941909
>the gods exist because the humans believe in them

Xenagos ascended without human belief, your argument doesn't hold weight.

>>47942022
Xenagos a shit!

>>47942022
Yeah, and the Eldrazi are impossible to destroy.

>>47942097
Said no one but Ugin, who has proven to be the most unreliable being to ask on the subect.

>>47941401
I actually really want to see Phyrexians show up next on Ravnica. I want Simic to immediately join up with the phyrexians (or at least anyone who had a fondness for momir vig) and I want Boros to be forced to stand with Rakdos.

>>47942267
>Phyrexians keep sticking machinery in stuff simic wants to bio experiment on.
Simic would hate phyrexia like they can't stand the Izzet times 12. The Golgari are fucking gone though.

>>47942328
I really think the Simic would fall in love with the Phyrexian attitude of "progress no matter what". Gruul might also get on board if Vorinclex makes the pitch but they're sort of a wild card.

>>47942447
didn't simic release some kind of evolutionary abomination during one of the ravnica blocks?

Phyrexia would definitely love their way of creating things as well.

>>47942479
It was the first one. That shit got the Simic disbanded and rebuilt from the ground up. They don't like to talk about it anymore.

>>47941366

You like like Body Hair besides beards exist for humans in Magic the Gathering at all.

>>47941828
>>47941847
Emrakul would win.

Why?

Because Phyrexia is a virus, Emrakul is madness itself.

One has to infect you to spread. One just has to be present.

>>47942447
I think Gruul hates machinery and artifice too much to deal with Phyrexia. Gruul is all about the old ways being the best and hating all this new-fangled technology.

I think Golgari, Simic, Rakdos, and maybe Izzet are in the most danger of defecting, but even then I think it'll be only a few members rather than a mass exodus.

>>47942022
He ascended from satyrs you dunce, he literally partied his way to godhood and got the belief he needed cause he was just the best fucking satyr reveler, also he stole some of that party juice from Elspeth's party somehow.

>>47941884
Kruphix was pretty scared of the phyrexians, considering the fact he's the man of knowledge and probably wisdom, that fear should be taken seriously.

>>47942786
So what does Orzhov do? Look on in shame and embarrassment?

>>47942949
He didn't even need the satyrs. He had a bunch of Nyxborn, and sucked up their power in a ritual that involved Elspeth's victory party.
He became the god of revels because that's the power he sucked up, but he didn't need the satyrs or to be the best Reveler.

>>47942965
Sure, hence why the gods would listen when he says "Wipe this shit out before it gets a good foothold"
He's seen Elspeth's homeplane and Mirrodin after phyrexia pretty much won the war. He knows what Phyrexia looks like in full swing, so he'd encourage Heliod and friends to stomp phyrexia out before they get that full swing going.

>>47942967
War Profit. Create some Orzhov angels and loan them to the Boros on debt to be paid back later out of Ravnica's taxes or something. Fund Izzet experiments for a cut of the profits. etc.etc.

>>47943007
Orzhov wins again.

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>>47943025
Orzhov never loses. The major players in the guild may change a bit, but Orzhov never loses.

>>47943007
>Implying New Phyrexia knows any other tactic besides "Full Swing"

They're going to have Oblitorators and Wurm Coil engines down their throat before they even know what hit them

>>47943046
I regret not playing during the Ravnica and Mirrodin blocks.

>>47943007
>Wipe this shit out before it gets a good foothold
>implying Elspeth didn't bring the infection with her
>Implying Phyrexia isn't already building deep within the surface of Theros

>>47943109
They have to infiltrate first, then they can full swing.
They can full swing because they can reuse corpses and artifact materials like metal while their enemies run out of resources.
Theros Nyxborn don't have either of those problems, since they leave neither resources nor biomaterial
Plus they'd need to build a planar portal on Theros, assuming those still work, which Kruphix would immediately know about and tell Heliod to wipe it before it could be finished.
They might not ever get to the full force phase, and even if they did, their usual advantages don't work there.

>>47943176
Planar Overlay would right fuck them

>>47943167
>No raw materials for the oil to turn into phyrexians.
>No metal
>No biomatter
Unless you think Phyrexia is made out of rocks, there's nothing any oil on her armor could really do.

>>47943207
>Implying materials such as Iron aren't buried in the soil

>>47943219
Literally doesn't exist yet. Purphoros hasn't decided to invite iron yet.
Yeah, Theros is that kind of world.

>>47943202
Planar overlays were barely possible the first time around.
>Intense study of Dominaria needed to make Rath EXACTLY perfect for it.
Can't really replicate that anymore
>Took forever to make Rath exactly as they needed
>Before the mending when planar walls were so thing powerful mages and demons could fuck off and leave.
Planar overlays were barely possible even before the mending, and likely aren't possible at all now.

>>47935611
I used to think the Eldrazi were cool. Then they fucking threw up all over Zendikar and Innistrad and they fucking suck now

Same thing with Planeswalkers. I wish WotC knew that sometimes having things be uncommon and unique makes them cool. Making the lore the Jacestice league saves the day and making Eldrazi another lame ass boring tribe with shitty mechanics ruins both of those things

>>47941474
Planewalkers don't gain immense magical power - not since the mending hit.
And drones and spawn aren't seperate entitites from the Eldrazi themselves. Every drone, every spawn, every eldrazi creature card in the Zendikar blocks was an organ or appendage of one of the three Eldrazi Titans - it's only with Shadows that Emrakul is doing something different, and even then it's still 'they're all Emrakul', it's just making other things Emrakul.

How would you feel if Innistrad is destroyed by Emrakul, but the end result is the corruption of Innistrad results in a brand new Eldrazi Titan, born to 'replace' one of the Titans destroyed on Zendikar and bring the number back up to 3? You know, one of those 'horrifying, unpredictable side effects of trying to just kill them' things that Ugin was warning about.

>>47943705
i think that won't happen. Not many people seem to like eldrazi and i myself hope that this block is too finally get rid of them.

>>47943705

Sounds like literally the shittiest outcome

The best we can hope for is that the jacetice league fireballs emmy, and we never have to deal with them again. Hopefully while also managing to kill all of the jacetice league.

>>47936171

Managing to ramp to 20 for spawnsire wasnt that hard, even in limited. Especially when you remember all the scion producers and spawnsire itself having a produce 2 scions for 4 ability, that only cost 2 lands if you played temples. I used to do this shit all the time, but my group made a rule I was only allowed a 25 card sideboard(I ran a 75 card deck) to use for spawnsire

>>47943752
>Gatewatch dies
>next set is Chandra's home plane
Yep. That sounds about right.

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Memerakul

>>47943951
>chandra's home plane and chandra is confirmed to be in it

>>47944012
is there a way to get card with altered appearance like this? that you can just play casually with of course.

or is it illegal if you printed it out yourself?

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>>47944012
>Wizards will never print this in a new Unglued set

>http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/latest-developments/mrakul-files-developing-emrakul-2016-06-24
>Incurable (This can't be exiled, returned to its owner's hand, or put into a library from the battlefield.)

This almost became a mechanic. How does that make you feel?

>>47944633
Not that terrible. Still better than banding

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>>47944633
>Incurable, Hexproof and Indestructible

>>47941828
One wants machines, the other wants lifeforms. Technically speaking they could become the craziest shit and team up to become the final biggest bad.

Otherwise, it depends on where Emerakul sits after this set. With all three titans I'd say Eldrazi for sure. Now it depends on Emeralul surviving and what she creates.

Realistically, Wizards already want phyrexians to be the big bad of magic. Their plot armor will protect them from everyone besides karn and Jace.

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>>47944633
>SPS: trying without hexproof

>>47944633
Name's dumb, but I'm surprised it hasn't shown up yet, honestly. It'll probably be made, and likely end up in the same space Protection is now after its debut set - usable whenever, but infrequently.

>>47940834
>The mechanics literally are tied into the lore.
Thirteen squirrels kill Emrakul?

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>>47942267
I want the Phyrexians to discover Etherium. Depending on what happens with Tezzeret, that could happen.

>>47944714
>can be minused by non-targetting effects
>can be sacrificed
dies to removal/10

>>47946157
>got all swords equipped
>got Sigarda, Host of Herons out

>>47935611
I thought hating them was the idea.

WotC keeps pushing them for that reason. Hating the big dumb bad monster force from beyond is what you're supposed to do.

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>>47943007
>Theros is based on Greece
>However, these gods haven't fought together against a common foe before (no titans)
>They won't work together till it's too late because of pride
>The gods will be the reason as to why Theros falls.
All hail the new flesh!

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>>47944012
I love these edits.

>>47944793
I agree. The name is dumb. Maybe "Juggernaut" or "Planebound"?

And thoughts on better names?

>>47945047
Dying squirrels. Better have Levitate out.

>>47946417
>Planebound
Almost sounds too rad

>>47946457
I'm glad you like it.

>>47946385
>Implying Phyrexia won't be the reason the gods all work together.
Phyrexia has no power here.

>>47945047
Well considering how Liliana is pretty much trying to swarm Emrakul to death, replace squirrels with zombies.

>>47945047
Thirteen squirrels or a single blasphemous act.

>>47946528
Maybe, maybe not ;^)

>>47942267
That'd be super hype. Half the guilds fall to phyrexia while the other half form the wedges and we get a proper wedge set. My dick would get so hard. It should be Boros/orzhov teaming up though since Tajic battalions Teysa's tits every night.

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>>47945047
>>47946553
Or you could literally send Emrakul to hell

>>47946610
>destroy target land
Wow, tryhard Spike in the house

>>47946639
>muh land

Kitchen table Timmy detected.

>>47946662
>combo it with gitrog monster+crucible of works in a jund control shell
HERES JOHNNY

>>47946214
>relying on artifacts and creatures that can be removed

>>47946444
Emrakul is blocking, with any effect that lets her block unlimited creatures. A planeswalker summoned her, then got attacked by thirteen squirrels and told her to stop them. She manages at the cost of her own life.

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>>47946691
I do have 4 collecting dust...

>>47946789
Timestamp with a /tg/ joke or you're bullshitting.

>>47936171
>generate 20 mana for spawnsire
>drive to your lgs and buy as many eldrazi titans as you can
>drive back to your friend's place and slam 'em down

>>47946807
They're not that expensive, it's just a $50 card. I could trade away two goyfs for a playset of them.

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>>47946807
They were like $6 each when I got them in 2008.

>>47947087
>no timestamp
Fake and gay.

>>47947087
c-can I have those glimmervoids?

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>>47946807
You gotta pull that on something pricier than that of you are going to call bullshit.

>>47939206
>lay down zero casting cost artifact
>hit 2 people for 5+ damage

its not garbage by any stretch.

>>47948730
Nice toe

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>>47948730
that arrangement is retarded

>>47949148
How so?

>>47949147
Thanks, it's a big one.

>>47936339
Fist of Suns hard casts it on turn 3.

>>47942965
I thought Kruphix feared Bolas more than phyrexians and eldrazi combined?

>>47941828
Wouldn't this become a kind of 'Tyranid-vs-Necrons' type deal pretty quickly?
Neither of them is really interested in what the other has to offer and so would probably actively avoid each other.

>>>47942447 Gruul
Every blue has been a villain in Ravnica and only blue has been a villain in Ravnica.
Simic is my first guess too, though Azorious is a close second.

>>47943046
is this the worst wrath effect ever printed?

>>47952208
Wipes tokens and other aggro creatures while leaving big finishers alive for 5 mana?

Not even close to the worst wrath, it can easily be one-sided, are you high?

>>47952257
I am indeed.

Yeah, I definitely didn't think that one through, you're right, it does seem pretty good.

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>>47946404
still the best

>>47936720

KEK
E
K

>>47941437
Could that be the return of some sort of new yawgmoth?

>>47935693
Inb4 Emrakul drifted a little too close to New Phyrexian.

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>>47941260
>>47941318
>>47941324
>>47941366
She is pretty cool
>she's all milf-y
>looks sassy
>free wolves
>clothes are destroyed by transformation

>>47943482
aren't all three titans just "limbs" of a single entity that is Eldrazi, with the various others being "fingers" of those "limbs"?

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>>47953465
>"fingers"
thanks for reminding me how much better the eldrazi could have been

>>47953483
I dunno, I think the Eldrazi being essentially /nonsapient/ was a pretty good choice.

Why all the hate for them? They're a pretty good execution of the Elder Horror trope, what for a game where something that's truly eldritch wouldn't be fun to play against.

>>47953500
>Why all the hate for them?
the botched resolution to BFZ, mainly

>>47941437

>Right before she leaves to warn the Jacetice League she witnesses the birth of the God of Compleation

More like father of machines,yawgamoth 2.0

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come to papa

>>47953465
No. Kozilek, Ulamog, and Emrakul are separate entities, but those are the only Eldrazi (assuming SPOOKY MOON doesn't have some big twist)

>>47955288
If there's only three of them, i'd like to see something along the lines of manaecological collapse as the result of killing sixty six percent of the apex predators of a seldom-filled niche.

Hell, maybe the Eldrazi are a culling force for the planes, to eat things like Phyrexia and keep that shit from happening. Sort of like a kill function on cancer cells.

>>47935611
>you gain control of target opponent during that player's next turn.
>make opponent forfeit

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>>47935693
I want Eldrazi infected Phyrexian Slivers.

>>47955380
>Hell, maybe the Eldrazi are a culling force for the planes, to eat things like Phyrexia and keep that shit from happening. Sort of like a kill function on cancer cells.
Isn't that what Ugin said about them? That they serve the same function that Galactus was supposed to serve by eating dead planets/planes but then went all fuck that noise imma do what i want?

>>47944633
>Ken Nagle (Lead Designer)

Just fuck my shit up

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>>47955899
You'd think with Nagle as the lead, Ulrich and Emrakul would've been better for EDH

Why not instead of saying Fuck Eldrazi just go with Fuck the company who keeps shoving Eldrazi into everything now that they needed something to use besides Nicol Bolas?

>>47955991
It's weird that Huntmaster of the Fells is better than Ulrich and that this Emrakul isn't nearly as good as the first one.

>>47956405
No, it makes perfect sense that this Emrakul isn't nearly as good as the old one - they kinda went overboard with old Ems. Nothing was ever going to get close to 15/15 flying/procoloredspells/annihilator 6 without being outright You Win.

>>47941260
Looks too much like a tranny to fuck

>>47956467
I get what you're saying, but with a title like THE PROMISED END I would expect a showstopper.

>>47956495
A 13/13 flying/trample with a cost reduction ability and no drawbacks IS a showstopper. It's only because the original is that much better that it doesn't seem that way

>>47943268
As nahiri said, the walls between the planes are thicker than they once were.

>>47935611
They'll all be dead by September.

>>47953500
They are hardly eldritch horror (in execution). We'll see how they're pulled off in EM, but so far they've just been angry zerging with a few titans.

>>47936325
That's cute. Any more like it?

>>47939133
>we're only seen 1.5 eldrazi
What? There are three titans, Gisseluna is practically a fourth, and all three Broods were tearing up Zendikar. How many more would you need to see?

>>47940513
The worst part of being a Magic fan is the people who bitch about Jace.

>>47935611
There were people on /tg/ who honestly thought that WotC wasn't this fucking predictable.

>>47959178
He meant 'cards in Eldritch Moon', i.e. just Emrakul and the backside of a DFC

>>47939217
That's pretty lewd.

>>47946539
Why is Lili literally the best?
https://youtu.be/NCbhisqd_co

>>47944633
>>47944793
>>47946417
"Incurable" sounds more fitting for Phyrexia.

>>47959403
What other card have we seen?

>>47959330
>Implying it's bad
Motherfucker I've been hype since SOI spoilers. I knew what was coming and it got my dick hard. All hail our new squidly mistress.

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>>47959465
>Eldrazi transform logo
Awesome. Bet the other side is a Land.
I don't like the art that much. It looks like there's someone in the foreground, but we can't see them because of the text box.

>>47959560
it's a red card, based on the collector number

Why are they taking so long to start spoilers?

>>47959667
They're starting the actual spoilers at the same time they always do for a small set.
We just didn't get any leaks until a week before that this time around, when usually we get them a good month in advance at least

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>>47959560
There is indeed somebody in the foreground!
Two somebodies.

>>47959608
Good eye mate

>>47935611
What's with magic adding these shitty alien things into the universe?

what happened?

>>47959801
Rise of the Eldrazi happened six years ago

>>47959801
Zendikar happened

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>>47936720
He's Emrakul! He's Emrakul! Anyone else here Emrakul?

>>47959774
Where do they post the full art

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>>47959836
Meow'mrakul

>>47959849
literally google magic art, retard

wizard has all the art available

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>>47959774
The tiny cropped version doesn't do the image justice.

>>47959801
This isn't anything new. Magic has tried avoiding being generic D&D fantasy for ages.

>>47959861
Like I am going to the official website full of sjw faggots retards like you

>>47959861
>All the art
Not all of it. Barely any of it, really.

>>47959880
>I'm too dumb to internet, so I'll just insult people.
Everyone laugh. Point and laugh at this fool.

>>47959939
That sounds like a good idea.
>>47959880
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA idiot can't even find magic art when he's told how to do it

>>47959560
It can't be a land. The card number makes it fall somewhere in late black, red, or early green unless there's 100 lands in the set.

>>47959973
It's actually impossible for it to be a land or there to be 100 lands in the set, since Ulrich is 191/205

>>47959964
>>47959939
It's not even on their website you fucking faggots, fuck you for making me look you can both go fuck each other.

>>47959774
>lady in the top left looks like Thalia
Please no

>>47946214
can still die to shit like toxic deluge.

>>47960136
Nobody said 'go to the main website', that was you.
what was said was 'literally google magic art, retard'

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>>47952208
>>47952257
>>47952288
It isn't great, to be honest. They printed it for cheaper, less color requirement and instant speed.

I like the Eldrazi as these unstoppable forces of nature that tie into the very fabric of the universe and can only be sealed away.

But that was all ruined by the resolution of Oath. Killing two of them at once with some fucking fire, are you serious? And we're supposed to be okay with it because "oh, well, it's not that the oldwalkers couldn't kill them, it's that they never tried : )". Really? So at any fucking point, like, ONE oldwalker could have just stopped them easily? Do you not realize how that completely destroys the lovecraftian unknowable force appeal?

Wizards's new focus on story successfully made me hate characters I already liked. They were so convinced that they had to start the Gatewatch with a total victory that they just threw out all sense. The Gatewatch should have MAYBE done enough damage to drive the titans off the plane to look for an easier meal, or maybe sealed them away again, or fucking anything besides four lowl level planeswalkers killing the fucking STRONGEST BEINGS IN THE UNIVERSE WITH SOME FUCKING FIRE GOD FUCKING SHITEATING CHRIST WIZARDS YOU FUCKING IDIOTS


So yeah I'm not big on the Eldrazi either, even though I used to be.

>>47960414
There'll be more threats from the Blind Eternities. These titans might just be a taste of that and destroying them could spell unnatural disaster.

>>47960414
And yet, the thing is that two oldwalkers DID try.
We're supposed to be okay with it because the heroes don't lose when they first team up, and people aren't supposed to root for the world-ending abominations.

>>47960209
Thalia is still alive.

>>47960414
>Killing two of them at once with some fucking fire
You're really underselling the sheer amount of effort that went into defeating Ulamog and Kozilek. It took pulling them down into reality and then blasting them with an entire plane's mana leylines.

It wasn't "just some fucking fire".

>>47960443
a) The Gatewatch put in massive effort to defeat the Eldrazi
b) Ugin lied and said they couldn't be destroyed because dragons are dicks.

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>>47960489
>Thalia is still alive.
And apparently the buy-a-box or something.

>>47960294
Thalia wasn't in Hanweir. http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/lunarch-inquisition-2016-05-04

>>47959774
Is it just me, or is there something about this that reminds me of older mtg art? It's probably my favourite piece of mtg art that's come across in a while.

>>47960489
Did Ugin say "the can't be killed." Or that "They shouldn't be killed because we don't know why they exist?" I'm curious if the Eldrazi are basically just Reskinned phyrexians that exist to spread themselves or if something happens after they "kill" a plane.

I really don't want Eldrazi just be some random evil thingy that exist to be evil.

Also, New Thalia is awesome.

>>47960610
Remember all that old MTG art that was a bunch of corpses stuck together in a huge ball? Good times. They don't make them like they used to.

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>>47960688
They aren't really doing anything to be evil. They're doing it because its what they are. Which quibbling aside, can very much be considered evil. Not much has really changed about them since their first appearance.

Also, I hope the real translation of the card name is better. "Cathar Heretic" or "Heretical Cathar" sound much better.

>>47960688
They Eldrazi do what they do because it is their nature. It's repeatedly pointed out that they consume and destroy without any form of recognition of their foes. To them we are nothing.

Hell, even Emerakul reflects this. She isn't corrupting to win a fight, it is mearly her nature to make all into her. I wouldn't be surprised if she is the source of other Eldrazi and makes a new titan.

>>47960688
only because you forgot what phyrexians are.

There were created by a man. A madman, but a man with intent and plans. Those that followed, for all their madness, were intelligent with plans and wills and ambitions. They infiltrated, they researched, they schemed, they bickered and betrayed.

The eldrazi just act. There is no politics, no schemes, no dogma. When those appear present, it's only mortals creating those things to try and understand the eldrazi.

>>47948904
too bad we're talking about using it against emrakul, nigger

>>47960922
On Reddit there was a theory that Emrakul wants to be worshiped again. I like that theory.

>>47961019
>There were created by a man. A madman, but a man with intent and plans.
Phyrexia was the work of some ancient, as of yet unspecified, planeswalker.
Yawgmoth just requisition the joint on account of it being abandoned.

>>47961076
It was kind of strange to me that Emrakul's new followers on Innistrad somehow instantly identified her as a female entity. But I saw a theory that, in the same way Ulamog is compelled to feed and Kozilek is compelled to warp reality, Emrakul is compelled to create offspring by warping life into Eldrazi. Her followers, who are becoming connected to her, may sense that driving force and interpret it as her desire to be a mother. Mother = female

That's a cool idea to me.

>>47961766
I think they're not so much identifying her as female as they are using the terms that their tiny minds understand. Was it you who had the theory that Ulamog and Kozilek might have been things warped by Emrakul into Titans?

Also, there probably isn't a real reason. I mean, it's not like these things should be speaking English in the first place. You just gotta accept things like that.

>>47961824
No, that wasn't me.

I just like the idea that there's a reason different cultures have identified Emrakul as a female god. I mean in actuality it's a Space Thing that's so beyond the concept of gender or sex that it's silly to give it one, but the people corrupted by Emrakul and interpreting her alien intentions as a mother rebirthing them into her beautiful children would be a pretty cool explanation.

Oh hey it's the retarded bullshit we all feared and knew would happen when inn2 was still in spoilers. What a twist.
Fuck you WotC

>>47959774
>There goes the neighborhood.
>Fucking hell, I told you those new neighbours were nothing but bad news.
>I fucking told you.

>>47936283
Yes faggot despite whatever wizards writes I don't see a giant fucking vagina

>>47960688
>I really don't want Eldrazi just be some random evil thingy that exist to be evil.
They aren't. It's implied that they exist to keep the multiverse neat and tidy or some shit like that by consuming old worlds to make room for new ones.

We don't know what the consequences of killing them will be exactly, but Wizard's creative team have been about as subtle as a brick to the face about that there will be consequences.

>>47962356
I don't see a giant fucking penis either

>>47945160
What the fuck has he even been doing since new phyrexia?

>>47962197
>Feared
It's everything I wanted, saltyanon.

>>47962421
When has that ever been implied.
This sounds like Ugin propaganda. You know he just wants to study shit.

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>>47962877
Just snooping about Phyrexia and telling Nicky B things.

There must always be 3... 2 have fallen... The hours turn... And 3 shall rise again.

>>47963015
Thought he peaked out after they tried to make him the new father of machines.

>>47963045
Well that would be interesting I guess.

>>47941828
Phyrexia with a return of Yawgmoth.

Eldrazi without.

>>47955432

Who are all actually Nicol Bolas!

>>47960773
It can't be considered any more evil than an elephant eating tiny plants or a human stepping all over bacteria.

>>47961766
The whole thing from fucking zendikar about how their fancy gods were ACTUALLY THE ELDRAZI AND THATS WHY THE NAMES ARE SO SIMILAR was fucking ridiculous too, because they're fucking eldrazi they don't have fucking names.
If you give them names, you wouldn't say "oh, this one is exactly like our god Cosi. I guess we'll name them Kozilek." Where the fuck did that come from?

>>47961262
the place was already there. The goal and thoughts were Yawgmoth's.

>>47941260
>Wanting to fuck the Crimson Chin

>>47964830
I'm actually curious as to the answer here. That doesn't make a goddamn lick of sense.

>>47965087
the name Kozilek came before Cosi.

Now where Kozilek came from is more of a question. But Eldritch Moon suggests that at least Emrakul shoves the name directly into your brain.

>>47965087
Emrakul at least self references herself as Emrakul. At least according to when Jace read her mind. In Nahiri's story during Return to Zendikar it showed Ulamog corrupting the vampires to try and get them to release him. I imagine interactions like those put the Eldrazi into the zeitgeist of Zendikar and become their gods.

>>47963045
I actually thing this is the sort of deal Ugin was implying with the whole "don't kill the Titans" thing. That or that killing a titan makes the remaining ones more powerful.

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>>47965253
Why the fuck do cosmic horrors have first names? I mean, that seems a little silly.

>>47965558
Almost every cosmic horror being in the genre has a name.

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>>47965724
It's true, but some of them are clearly names people have given to them by human cultures (like Azathoth or Shub-Niggurath or Dagon) or weren't really meant for human mouths (like Cthulhu). Alternatively, the entities have reasonably scrutiable, human motivations (Khorne, Slaanesh, etc.) and it's reasonable to assume they'd also have names.

But the Eldrazi... their names are /convenient/.

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>>47960610
that's because it looks bad

>>47965724
>>47965558
Why can't they ever be called something simple, like Jim?

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>>47965069
you take that back you sonuvabitch

I have a feeling the death of all the eldrazi could result in something like reversing the mending or at least releasing some of the power the mending took away, I think this is why Nicol bolas wanted them released and why he killed ugin in the original tarkir timeline so he wouldn't stop the other walkers from killing them or at least warning them their would be consequences.

It makes sense since Nicol bolas is heavily involved in all of this atleast in the beginning and his main goal so far in the story has been to get back what he lost during the mending.

>>47965979
I would love to read a story about Jim the eldritch horror.

>>47966031
I don't remember what it was, but I could have sworn I read something that Bolas saw what he'd released with the eldrazi and kinda felt like he fucked up.

I'd love Bolas and Ob Nix to find each other and create their own solutions to the eldrazi. Like using an entire plane as a bomb.

>>47966101
I don't think that happened, bolas isn't the type to regret his decisions like that either way.

I think his involvement with the phyrexians(sending tezzeret to take over) on Mirrodin gives credence to some extent to my idea as well as it's well known the phyrexians built planar portals in the past and that they may be able to interact with the blind eternity's to an extent, some of that tech could help bolas reverse some of the effects of the mending some how maybe.

Ob doesn't seem to give a shit about the eldrazi in any way really. His whole ideology is just to fuck shit up and make war from what his lore tells us.

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>>47966057
>In the proto-Sumerian language of the long-dead race that first contacted it, the name meant simply "death"
>6,000 years and uncounted linguistic shifts means its name is now... underwhelming to most English speakers.
>I mean, who really freaks out when they find the word "Jim" written in blood on an alleyway wall?
>Not many people
>Jim doesn't mind
>Jim likes surprises

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>>47941136

I started playing during Alpha.

FINALLY! Colorless is a color (don't give a shit what wizards says, I got it!)

Boring? How...because...it's not RWUBG? because it's creature type eldrazi not artifact?

Give a real reason.

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>>47959836

Im already half Emrakul

>>47965887
They're about as convenient as any other.

>>47966212
>it's a "Bolas was the hero all along" twist
I sort of want it

>>47967565
"I-it's not like I like you, stupid planeswalkers! It's just that I wanted my old powers back and helping you just happened to get that!"
But seriously, Bolas would never help others except where it helps him.

Hell, Liliana could do that.

>>47967565
That doesnt even make him a hero, infact hes more a villain in this circumstance because there would probably be more negative repercussions to his actions just so he could get power back

>>47967565
>kills planeswalkers and planes just to get power back
>hero

>>47959774
Damn. What happened to the town?

>>47968485
They became one and will eventually be one with emrakul

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>>47939996
>implying

>>47968796
His flavor text doesn't match the lore at all, but he is actually written decently.

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>>47968370
>Uses power to stop the real main villan
>Saves Multiverse
Yeah dude next level that shit

>>47968849
Yeah, like "hitler was actually told by an eldritch god that it would destroy earth if he didn't kill jews" next level

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>>47969146
holy shit that needs to be a movie

>>47968849
>Storm crow is in the silver moon

>>47968151
> tfw there will never be an mtg show with cute girl versions of all the characters attending multiverse school
> tsundere Bolas
> himedere Sorrin
> literally retarded Jace-chan
Why even live

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>Em scaled down massively in power
>even from a non-biased point of view new Em is ruined only because of "opponent then takes an extra turn" clause.
>Poo in Loo set is basically Wizards regretting they fucked Mirrodin and needing a new artifact-themed place
>Jace fucking everywhere after they said a couple years back they would like to focus on lesser-known walkers

If you want to hate them then hate them, it's not my fucking job to tell you how to think you faggot.

>bloodborne, an out of nowhere love letter to lovecraft old god horror.
>hearthstone did old gods too
>mtg has a full block about this

What the hell is going on? Are the masters finally awakening?

>>47969917
>Are the masters finally awakening?
Praise Kek

>>47969917
Hearthstone did Old Gods because WoW had already done that.

>>47963429
Doesn't do anything. Anyone have the working version?

>>47969917
Why is Bloodborne the game everyone always mentions as if it started the Lovecraft references in games trend? Amnesia had it, Alone in the Dark had it, Skyrim had it, X-COM had it, fucking Black Ops 3 had it. Lovecraft is just somewhat popular, that's it. The only strange coincidences here are Hearthstone and Magic doing it at the same time.

>>47970507
It's more of a coincidence that Bloodborne and Innistrad are doing it in the same *way*.

>>47965887
Azathoth and Shub-niggurath were also intended to sound like they aren't meant for human mouths.

>>47970620
you're a shub-niggurath

>>47936339
>>47935801
>Ramping for Emrakul
/tg/ needs to be banned from magic, you're too bad

>>47953500
Weird Fiction is super stale. It was played out and cliche back in the 1940's. The whole genre's appeal to casuals is the same appeal Dragon Ball Z has: power levels. You take away power levels and they're giant boring animals.

Why do you think people are so pissed they got punked by the Super Friends?

>>47955380
>Culling force for the planes

Ah, the Galactus argument. Never really bought it. It's totally possible to have an ecology without an apex predator. Natural competition for resources ensures that creatures kill each other to prevent the ecosystem from collapsing.

>>47971906
>Why do you think people are so pissed they got punked by the Super Friends?
Because people are stupid and /tg/ loves to complain without actually understanding things?

You people act like there was no lead up or effort involved.

>>47971940
I think it's more of a Langoliers thing. Although Galactus isn't supposed to be a natural part of the system, is he? I got the impression that he was just a big evil planet eating baddy, not some kind of lawn trimmer.