Warhammer 40k General

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>>47928484

>Vehicles need nerfs

Is 1750 or 1850 better for average games?

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>>47928640

1500 is the bestest. Allows some room for fancy stuff but at the same time limits you from going full on crazy.

I just won a maelstrom game 12-2 against a Gladius, whilst not having any Obsec whatsoever on my side of the table and only having 7 units.

I even scored domination. -after- one of my units was wiped out.

The fuck just happened?

>>47928640
Whatever is the most common in your area. I don´t think anyone would start an argument over this. You could say 1750 to piss off people who netlist.

>>47928705
Thunderwolf star fits at all levels friend.

The meta is fucked right now.

>>47928708
You got good anon.

>>47928640
7000 is the best, in my opinion.

>>47928748
Glorious Apocalypse games with a dozen Imperial Knights and a Warlord Titan

>>47928708

As what army?

>>47928556
They gotta scrape them mold lines and fill those gaps first.

>>47928737

Well that's true. But my meta has it's own limits for that so those don't get out of hand.

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>>47928708

What in the name of the Emperor was that Gladius player doing?

>>47928748
I prefer 2500 and 4k myself.

>>47928784

Anvil Strike Force. 3 ven dread unit, 3 Contemptor unit, Ironclad in drop pod, whirlwind, 3 vindis, pred, Techmarine.

>>47928825

He deployed in one corner barring two units and I got the first turn, so I had the Ironclad and it's drop pod slightly narrow his escape routes then closed in from two directions.

"Here, have board control", I guess.

>>47928847
Did he just take Heavy Bolters? I'm at a loss. Fuck him for using Gladius anyway.

Should I buy War Walkers or Vypers for an Alatioc army?

>>47928932

Lots of terminators, chaplain warlord, some bikes, lascanon Devastators, Grav Tacticals in heavy Bolter Razorbacks, bare bones dread in a pod.

>>47928783

Got an apoc game coming up with a Warlord Titan, Phantom Titan, Vampire Raider, Scorpion tank, Reaver titan, 3 warhounds, a dozen knights, Ordinatus, all 4 demon lords and a few baneblades.

Plz kill me.

>>47929079
>local taufaggot doesnt like apoc because "there's too much going on"
>usually brings two riptide wings and a retaliation cadre amongst other things
>doesn't move any of them because he just forgets to
>only moves with thrusts in the assault phase
>would rather play 1850 with a few suits or kill teams with crisis suits
>devour his biomass anyways

>>47928920
>play Gladius
>don't fan out and cover all the objectives
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>>47928783
>>47929143
>Store has apoc game with like 8 people
>Master of Disaster table gets rolled on
>One of the table tiles gets removed
>Some guy loses his entire army expect for a flyer in one turn
Was fun as fuck, would love to do it again

Does anyone here collect a Black Templars army?

What does "superfriends" mean?

>>47929319
I do

>>47929343
Do you still play them? What is your most common list like?

>>47929342
Usually its a deathstar made with multiple different allied units and ICs to combine their special rules in a deadly superunit.

>>47929342
superfriends is thunderwolves cavalry + smashfucker

>>47929434
not anymore, smashfucker loses his fnp when he jumps in with TWC or ravenwing etc as of the FAQ

>>47929434
Nah its just bunch of allied chars stuffed together. You can make superfriends with multiple different set-ups.

>>47929456
no, you don't put smashfucker with TWC, you put him with a command squad with an apothecary. You basically run fist of medusa with strike force command, armored task force and a auxillary tax/option, and still have room left over for thunderwolves cavalry.

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Quick question
Currently building Scout sentinel. One of two in a squad. Other one has autocannon
What should I arm this one with?

>>47929569
Also an autocannon. Don't mix roles if they're going in the same unit.

Autocannon is probably the best choice for a scout sentinel anyway. Lascannons on that chassis are too costly (can you even do it, actually) and BS3 on a single shot weapon hurts.

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This dude's getting 40k rules as well as 30k, following what they did with the BaC stuff.

(Apologies for Cut Off Photo Syndrome, I didn't take the pic.)

>>47929592
Thank you very much.

>>47929363
Well, my black templar collection is my third army, so its lackluster.

I love the Templars and their fluff, but on the tabletop I can only really field like 1k points of only marines. Doesn't win a lot but my Emperor's Champ has decapitated a lot of stuff.

>>47929592
>(can you even do it, actually)

Yep. Only thing Scouts can't have are Plasma Cannons.

>>47929648
>I can only really field like 1k points of only marines
Now that's fluffy as fuck.
Any idea what you're gonna add next?

>>47928484
>wolves on their powerpacks
NO!
This is going too fucking far. Why do they even have powerpacks? They don't even have power armor, it's just another spot to stick wolves on. Fuck this shit one dimensional meme army.

>>47929594
thats fake
different text, praetors dont exist in 40k, not to mention theres spelling errors throughout

>>47928748
>>47928783
I played a 12-way free for all run what you brung game on a warehouse floor once. Any points, any army, last man standing. We had alternating groups (so the guy to your left and right aren't allies, but go at the same time), with counterclockwise turn order respected when intervening players were knocked out. At the end, VPs were scaled by points.

It was a massive clusterfuck that took weeks, and the winner ended up being a kid that only brought like a thousand points and got knocked out on the first day, but it was still my favorite game of 40k I've ever played. There's something magical about seeing well over 100,000 points arrayed for battle.

Anyone know the best way to run skitarii vanguard? I mostly play against guard players if that helps at all?

How to people even get tabled in this game?
I've never seen anyone get tabled in my life, even in turn 6 people will always have something left.

>>47929798
Play against Tau when they bring 2 stormsurges and 3 Riptides.

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>>47929594

>>47929752
Against guard? 3x Arc rifle, Omnispex. Take a tank down a turn! Rangers might also work better because in case of no tanks you can snipe from comfortably outside their range.

>>47929752
Agaist IG, max Arc Rifles. Their Rad Carbines will make short work out of their infantry regardless of what they are.

>>47929720
>>47929847
Well this is baffling. I've got people in the 30k thread telling me the one with 30k rules is fake and this >>47929594 picture is the real rules for the models, and people in the 40k thread saying pretty much the opposite.

How big of a work space do you need to paint minis? I also hate how only spray On primer exists. I want to learn how to paint minis but I fear getting started. Abd fuckibg up minis...

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So I like to think I have a decent enough knowledge of WH40k or at the very least entry level but I was wondering, who/what are the people being attacked by the 'nids in this image, I don't recognize them.

>>47929798

Have you tried selecting a variety of high damage output units then directing them at whatever they specialise at killing?

Shit dude, I table people all the time, and only one of my armies is top tier.

>>47930021
>8 pointed star

They're chaos cultists mate.

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>>47930021
They're heretics, anon. They must be purged.

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>>47930021
wtf kinda goofy-ass art is that lol

>>47929594
These are homebrewed rules the dudes in the Manchester store made for the model they're selling on Saturday. He's pretty broken.

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Daily reminder this happened in Marvel's latest comics.

>>47929692
>I'm a retard, please, rape my face, I have no idea what I'm talking about

They have powerpacks, because those are the 13th Great Company. They charged into the Eye of Terror, in their Great Crusade gear, which, surprise surprise, had power packs, then mutated into Wulfen. The powerpacks remained on their forms as they couldn't taken it off.

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>>47930268
>>47929720
>>47930009

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>>47930021

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>>47929798
Ive seen people get tabled, and Ive been tabled myself. No joke, every instance of it Ive seen in person has been Tau.

>>47930312
Where is it even from? It looks too good for official art.

>>47929005
>War Walkers or Vypers for an Alatioc army?
War Walkers. I imagine you have a rather static army since Alaitoc´s main thing is Rangers? If so the mobility of Vypers doesn´t really do much. Better to have the more effective War Walkers to support your snipers. With scatter lasers they are actually really, especially in Alaitoc since you have anti-heavy infantry and MC with your snipers.

>>47930352
ahaha fucking christ, they really aren't shy about just padding rules onto space marines are they?

>>47930312
>add his own touch

Yet you started off saying it copied models.. then said action poses.battle... then say it isn't their own touch.

What exactly do you want? If it isn't like the model, 'you' will scream it isn't canon, and if it is, you scream is shit.

40k is a autistic nightmare I wish I never delved into.

>>47930384
>(you)
Ha ha, well meme'd!

>>47930413
It's a fake image anon.

>>47930413
Read >>47930268

>>47930415
>'you' will scream it isn't canon
When has anyone ever done that, you little sperg?
Jesus, you shitposters should just fuck off if you don't want to be here.

>>47929798
>Be melee army
>Attempt to enter melee

>>47930438
>>47930450

good lord I can't even tell anymore, I really wouldn't have been surprised if they just released a universally applicable death terminator stand in

>>47930011
Buy second hand minis to practice, find a tutorial on how to strip minis. Even if the models end up ruined you won´t have lost a ton of money.

>>47930457
>be daemons
>enter melee successful and shit all over his army
>win

>>47930457
every game, without fail, my bugs either get tabled or table something through pure melee
i've only tabled people in lower points though so nothing that really matters

>>47930285
You are the one who is a retard. He was saying there shouldn´t be wolf sculpts on the powerpack.

>>47930471
He's still playable in the Manchester store tho, his special rules seem a bit iffy and may change depending on who reads it.
>Not even out yet
>Already needs FAQ

>>47930483
I've tabled 'Nids as BT. Charged with a 20 man crusader squad with Helbrecht in it, used Helbrecht buff and one of my dudes died to overwatch, giving me that bonus too.
It was fucking glorious.

>>47930352
>>47930413
>>47930448
It's fake. Praetor was a rank for the legions and was basically just a chapter master.

>>47930413
What's the problem? That's literally the 30k rules combined with 40k rules. It's not 'padding' anything.

Still, it's neat for Blood Angels and Space Wolves. With Scourge it'll be doing 5A+D3A. That's 8. Plus I assume he can take a Storm Shield, so he'd have 3++. Blood Angel will be doing S7 on the charge, with I7 under the formation (assuming he can be taken in place) and I8 if he gets the buff. Which means he'll be doing S7 AP2 A5 at I8, meaning he'll kill most things before they hit him back.

Still, much better for Space Wolves.

>>47930535
Anon, those rules are fake.

>>47930523
not that hard to do desu, just kill the synapse and the army falls off the table/rips itself apart

>>47930480
>Be I 2 melee army*
>Attempt to enter melee

>>47930454
Feel free to look through the archive. It's been done for fucking years. People have talked about how X unit can have X weapon, or X unit doesn't do Y thing.

>>47930501
More insults.

Literally "don't disagree with me or I'll insult you". I didn't expect much and yet I got even less.

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>>47930415
>Implying you just realized 40k is an autism magnet

>>47930511
I literally explained they were the 13th Great Company which had that shit since Great Crusade, where they were wolfy wolfy, if not more wolfy, than they are now.

If any of them should have wolf adornments, it should be them.

>>47930566
>make unsupported claim
>insult everyone while you're at it
>"go find proof yourself!"
(you)

>>47930601
Old Wulfen art wasn't that wolfy.

>>47930562
>Not having I5, ap2, pseudo-fearless troop choices for less than 10 points
I feel so sorry for you buddy.

>>47930610
I didn't insult anybody.

I'm not going to trawl through the archive to prove a point that anybody who has been on /tg/ for more than 6 weeks should know. /tg/ has regular attacked art, for one reason or another.

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>>47930640
>a point that anybody who has been on /tg/ for more than 6 weeks should know.
>/tg/ has regular attacked art, for one reason or another.

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>>47930636
I meant the general armour.

For example, here.

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>>47930640
Not him but on the "attacks on art" isn't as bad as you make it out to be. Take pic related for example. It's not too clean looking, and has a gritty feel to it.

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>that feel when no one wanted to play today at my local GWs

>>47930457
>this is what tau players believe

i played a tau player last month, he turtled up, tried to shoot me off the board but crumbled as soon as i hit combat with him. that army wide ws2 really hurts when you hit on 5s

>>47930680
The only wolfy one is Russ himself, the original Wolfy Wolf Wolf of the Wolf Wolves. The creatures at his sides are actually wolves.

Notice how all the other marines look far more sane and a lot less wolfy.

>>47930675
This always fascinates me. I make a statement and instead of going "Okay, he's made a statement", you replied. You asked for proof, I am not willing to get it for you, instead of going "what an idiot, I won't reply to him any more", you keep on replying. I really do not get it. If you don't believe it, fine, I can't make you and I won't make you. The amount of threads I'd have to trawl through to find evidence, which you'd just go "d-d-doesn't count!!!" anyway, is not worth my time or effort. So there is no point doing this.

Have you final (You) and go back to whatever you're doing, I dunno, forcing a new epic meme, we moved on from I2? No? Busy Centaur Abhumans? No? Well, maybe you can think up the epic new meme, we can catch up to /tv/ if you lead the way anon, prove your memeness! Alas, you seem to just steal other peoples memes.

>>47930680
That's just Leman. Let me get my computer on to show less wolfy SWs.

>>47929569
Autocannon is superior choice for Scout Sentinels anyway, both looks-wise and crunch-wise

>>47930555
>Incompetence with the spelling and grammer
>Silly number of special rules
And yet it's so like forgeworld's own rules writing...

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>>47929229
>Some guy loses his entire army
>fun

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>>47930692
>make you unlikable

Good think I'm anonymous then, isn't it? Isn't it wonderful? Almost as if out-right hating trips is fucking stupid when they can be ignored, but "arrogant cunts" like me can't, right?

And, just like it's my prerogative to take the piss out of idiots who constantly attack the art. This has been happening for over a decade, it won't stop, but it's a regular occurance in /tg/. It's the 'in thing' to do, especially with 'new' art.

Let's end it here.

>>47930699
Dislike art all you want, but it's literally going "references are bad, make shit up". Okay, fine, but don't moan that X and Y aren't represented anywhere via stats or models.

Disliking the style, that's perfectly valid, subjectivity and all. But hating that somebody has gone "these are the models, I shall make a picture of them" is the same as complaining that Space Marines don't look like this in every picture. They don't because they look like Space Marines and Space Marines have models, so it's used as a reference.

He's gone "make their own take on it", okay, but how do you do that when a faction has a specific look?

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>>47930727
Here is one.

>>47930833
>apoc
>not fun

Nigger hold on a moment. I bet you don't...
Wait. With a game that size, these days there was most probably a Warlord, wasn't there? Especially if anon finds armies being deleted in a single turn fun.

Yeah, okay. That guy did get lucky.

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>>47930720
Yeah, you are prob right. I can't find any of the 13th specially, but out of the few HH Space Wolves, I can't find any with those packs.

This does have an ordainment, so maybe it was a thing the 13th specifically had. We'll have to see if FW make them.

>>47930680
>a wooden shield.

>>47930880
See >>47930915

I had Russ's picture seared into my mind, which is why I thought it was right, but I can't find any.

Unless, as I said, 13th GC specifically had ordained powerpacks for some reason (and no evidence says they don't, but I doubt this will be noticed by Forge World and made canon) then it is odd.

My mistake, disregard I suck cocks.

>>47930931
I'll have you know that it is a 3 ton slab of granite reinforced with adamantium laced plasti-steel rebar folded over 40,000 times and infused with liquefied ceramite artisan dyes.

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>>47930824
>Disliking the style, that's perfectly valid, subjectivity and all. But hating that somebody has gone "these are the models, I shall make a picture of them"
>but how do you do that when a faction has a specific look?
I suppose the reasoning behind the complaining about the picture that started this is that maybe Chaos cultists should be more than just masks and red lens? I don't know I'm not them.
>>47930931
Trees are supposedly rare on Fernis. Maybe Leman made his boy there a wooden shield as a golden star for doing a good job?

I want to convert some tyranid warriors into shrikes. I need wings.

Where can I find wings, /tg/?

>>47931039
>Buy one set
>Make mold
>Cast yourself

>>47930692
>it's my prerogative to make fun of assholes.
The hero we need.

>>47931017
I get the point, but let's stop this, fucked up this thread enough already.

>>47931069
Fuck off, asshole.

>>47931039
Bitz websites will likely have them. If you can't find them, try Ebay, some shops cut them off or sell spares. If not, try recasters (though the 'better' ones are closed to new customers last time I checked) and order shit loads on there for dirt cheap.

>>47931017
I was happy to see that picture, new content is new content.

>>47930880
What's funny is that FW has no 30 helmet upgrade set for the SWs, but a torso and shoulder one.

>>47931039
I've heard Gargoyle Wings are perfect for the job ever since FW discontinued the Shrike upgrade set.

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>There's an an unexpected visitor in Warhammer and Games Workshop stores this weekend.

>>47931157
Where is it from? is it anything new of import?

>>47931200
ok but do we know how much this special visitor costs yet.

I've got an exam coming up lads.
Wish me luck. May the Emperor guide my pen.

>>47931192
No.

Not him, but you're a fucking cunt, he argued a point, you insulted him and he backed down, so you got the last word in and then went 'hur dur don't reply everybody hates yo uloololoo immma da best' have this (You)

>>47931214
dude at my gw said 40bux us

>>47931200
Does that guy die?

>>47931200
He's in World Eater colors in that pic.


And is that Saint Duncan?

>>47931192
>the photoshop art is shit and actual artists are good.

not that guy, but... isn't that totally subjective?

>annoying cunt

says the guy who started a shit flinging contest AND carried on when he backed down AND had to get the last word in

fuck you, people like you ruined /tg/, oh and it's my job to shit on cunts like you, so fuck off.

>>47931039
http://megabitzshop.com/navi.php?jtl_token=e2c50f3e2f9cd5a1b66a6f2a16b5dbfe&jtl_token=e2c50f3e2f9cd5a1b66a6f2a16b5dbfe&suchausdruck=tyranid+wing

any use?

>>47931200
holy shit they literally just shoddily photoshopped the model in

>>47929798
I've been tabled before and it was pretty hilarious. My last model was Lemartes Gaurdian of the Lost. Him and a small unit of 5th edition Death Company were tearing through fire warrior gun lines while my tanks were being slaughted. He tanked a metric fuck load of pulse rifle fire and still managed to smash another unit of fire warriors alone before getting vaporized by rail gun.

>>47931192
>photoshop art is shit and actual artists are good

Anon, you do realize that some skill is still required to make PS art? Sure its alot more forgiving, but no joeshmo who just picked it up and has zero theory about art, color, or PS tools won't be able to draw anything well. Infact, the only thing seperating the PS artstyle and the old drawings isnt the tech, its the personal preference and artstyles of each artists. To deny someone as an artists just because they use photoshop would be saying that movie actors aren't real actors because they don't preform live.

>>47931277
>>47931235
Why did you reply to a guy who was blatantly shitposting? Both of them were, well, one had a shitty opinion, but that guy you replied to got involved in an argument simply to fuck this thread up. Don't do that.

>>47931200
That terrible photoshop art. Fucking cunts, they should make the art their own, that's them literally photoshoping the model in.

Proper artists don't do that. Good artists don't do that. Shit art 0/10.

>>47931296
They literally hired some shitty tumblr comic drawer to do it

>>47931277
Just gargoyle parts, but thanks for the link.

>>47931324
>but he acts as if 40k general is all one person
This wouldn't be so bad if we had thread IDs. The rampant samefagging is insufferable.

>>47931324
Do you realise he called himself autistic, right? The guy literally said "people get mad at little things, 40k is autistic", he literally did the same thing. If anything, it was a joke, but you replied seriously. My only guess is, he replied to bait you on. But you acted like a fucking asshole and went "it's my prerogative to shit on assholes xDDD". Why? What the fuck does that DO?

You could have just fucking ignored it, instead you made this place worse by being a fucking dick. You proved his fucking point about autism by replying, insulting, then saying it's your fucking duty to do it. He then goes "let's drop it cause it's s hitted up the thread" and you get the last word in to call him an asshole, again, then act like you've done the thread a favour by 'ending it' when he literally did several posts before you.

Just. Don't. Reply.

>>47931355
How do you type with that much seeping anger over a chinese frog painting and exchange forum? Go take a cold shower or some shit.

>>47931339
If you're in UK, use this

http://www.bitzbox.co.uk/index.php

Also, I found some OOP Shrike wings on Ebay, but they're like $50/£35 each for like 3 pairs (or maybe 2).

>>47931418
So you're willing to make this thread shit over you're anger? That is fucking autistic, anon.

Whatever, I won't feed you, carry fucking on. You'd do great as a trip for a few days, you'd ramp up those (You)'s pretty fucking fast.

>>47931375
Has /40kg/ just tried not being faggots? I've seen great threads and shit threads here. This is a shit thread because of a fucking retarded argument over a harmless opinion.

This isn't /b/. We shouldn't need thread IDs.

>it's an anon goes into FULL AUTISM EXTREME MODE because somebody said something he disagreed with and people are wondering why he's doing this and he replies it's his job, like he's the fucking Sheriff of /tg/ episode

Tonight on Autistic Lawman: Revenge of the WRONG OPINIONS.

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I'm playing a stock CSM codex, I love the marines themselves and I will be taking a havoc squad loaded up with 4 flakk missiles and bodies.

What are everyone's thoughts?

How can I position them to get the most out of them?

Rather than getting buttblasted over shitty arguments, why don't we foster some 40k-related discussion?

Which loyalist chapter is the most likely to turn to chaos right now?

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>>47931492
I've seen thread worse than this. Ever since October these threads have become cancer made manifest. Take a DG for your troubles.

>guy says 40k is autistic
>autistic guy gets mad

There is literally a BBC program about autism which has a 10 year old talking and playing with 40k and explaining why it helps his autism and why he's attracted to it.

40k is autistic, you shouldn't get fucking mad cause somebody says something he's literally part of and thus included in the ''''''''''''''''''''insult''''''''''''''''''''''''''

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>>47931546
I guess it's just summer. The worst part is it's not even Taufags, people complaining about WAAC or shit rules, or Ork/Sisters/Nid/Chaosfags complaining, being complained at for their codex. It's one faggot who can't keep his opinions over shitty art to himself. It's pathetic. I'm OP, by the way.

>>47931543
Probably a Blood Angels successor off the top of my head.

>>47931543
>Which loyalist chapter is the most likely to turn to chaos right now?
You're probably going to get flooded with meme answers. Here's a serious answer: possibly any chapter that survived the Abyssal Crusade and are still pending on if they're pure or not.

>>47931511
Flak is overpriced and power armor on foot dies easy. Is you want to keep the havok squad you could go with autocannons instead. Volume of fire means you still have a chance vs anti air and it is better vs hordes and med to light boxes.

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>>47931593
OP, don't blame summer for these threads. They've been cancerous for a while. I blame the edition and GW for giving some of these mooks fuel to use.

>>47931543
It's just one anon who got triggered and several people asked why he got so triggered and he's literally said he's willing to shit up the thread because it's his job to attack people he doesn't agree with.

But, to answer your point, I'd go with Blood Angels. They're really up against the wall with Baal. Got the Leviathan tendril, not splinter, heading to Baal coupled with Ka'bandha invading from the edge of the system. I dunno how many Successors Blood Angels have (I honestly thought they were 2nd most numerous, but I seem to remember reading Iron Fists have WAAAAY more) and thus how many are at Baal, but it must be in excess of 5,000 Marines. That many Marines close together will likely set something off.

It's my hope that it'll be the time that GW creates Death Company Terminators, as Dante reasons it's better to let them go mental in Terminator armour than it is to remove them, as there is no use protecting Relics if no BA's are there to use them. Plus, it's said in a novel that the teleporter homer on a Terminator suit will return to the teleportarium, even if it's owner is dead. So you could send up Death Company Termies, they die, then call them back to Baal's teleport room (which they must have) remove them and put some new guys in.

>thread is just shitposting
>want to change it to a 40k topic
>want to talk about 40k
>have nothing to talk about
Man I wish I was playing a game of 40k right now, I love playing 40k.

I own chaos daemons, orks and a 'Inquisition' army that is a mess of a ton of imperial factions.
I want to start a dark eldar army because I love their models but I don't like the idea of playing an army without a psychic phase as I love space wizards.

What about you /tg/?

Tempted to paint my leviathan dread in hive fleet leviathan colours

So what is your experince with GWs shipping i chlse the fast option. Should i expect it in 2 days or what?

>>47931676
You in the Los Angeles area? my Imperial Guard, Chaos Space Marines, or Space Marines would love to throw down

Is it heresy that every time I go to my FLGS and see the start collecting Seraphon box i drool a little at dino knights and giant almost t-rexes?

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>>47931659
>But, to answer your point, I'd go with Blood Angels.
>implying the bishie vampires would go to the side that sucks blood instead of scraping and licking it like gentlemen
>It's my hope that it'll be the time that GW creates Death Company Terminators, as Dante reasons it's better to let them go mental in Terminator armour than it is to remove them, as there is no use protecting Relics if no BA's are there to use them. Plus, it's said in a novel that the teleporter homer on a Terminator suit will return to the teleportarium, even if it's owner is dead. So you could send up Death Company Termies, they die, then call them back to Baal's teleport room (which they must have) remove them and put some new guys in.
There is art of this.

>>47931656
>>47931546

They have been. Ever since the whole goobergate thing that was around /tv/, /pol/ and /v/, there has been a lot of cancer migrating as mods shut shit down. Go look at the time that happened and read the threads. It was the start of forcing memes.

Now we have people like >>47931508 who willingly, knowingly, and happily shit up threads because they can.

But blaming the edition is classic /tg/, so it at least makes me smile. If in doubt, blame GW for everything. They do nothing right!

>>47931543
Space Wolves. Panic over being invaded by Daemons and Loyalists, including Dark Angels, they turn to Chaos, or are at least corrupted easily, in order to escape. Who they side with, difficult. Khorne would make sense, but Tzeentch would be a delicious irony.

Of course, GW wouldn't do that, but it'd be neat.

My guess is, as they expand the 13th Black Crusade, we'll have some minor, but known at least, chapters go spikey marines.


If you want a really super serious answer based on current fluff; Relictors.

>>47931661
It's called poking fun at yourself anon. You got mad for his opinion, not because he said 40k was an autistic hole. You replied to several other anons that it was about photoshop artists are always shit, every time. In fact, two people took the piss out of you here >>47931296>>47931328

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>>47931734
>But blaming the edition is classic /tg/, so it at least makes me smile. If in doubt, blame GW for everything. They do nothing right!
Now I feel like an idiot for doing that even simi-jokingly.
>They have been. Ever since the whole goobergate thing that was around /tv/, /pol/ and /v/, there has been a lot of cancer migrating as mods shut shit down. Go look at the time that happened and read the threads. It was the start of forcing memes.
When and which archive should I use?

>>47931659
Presumably the warp can interfere with the teleport homers though, otherwise it would be easier to reclaim terminator armour from chaos warbands?

Is it possible that the Black Rage is some kind of Khornate possession?

Though I suppose it doesn't matter wither way, it pleases Khorne nonetheless.

>>47931762
>photoshopped art

You keep using that term, but I don't think it means what you think it means. Not him, but I'll enjoy the guaranteed (You) from you. Give it to me anon, quickly! I cannot wait!

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>>47931656
I guess I'm just analfrustrated over it not even being something directly 40k related that's shitting up the thread this time. Fuck, even the last thread turned to shit because of arguing over Chaos.
It's not like we don't have prime material in the maybe fake/maybe OP bullshit Praetor rules. But no, we had to choose the associated art to bitch about instead.

>>47931659
Basically this for BA. Although, while they're a meme, Blood Ravens have had a history of heresy and even following the Retribution ending where Gabe survives the pounding and becomes Chapter Master they're now working with a Knight that has a renegade-only configuration. The implications.

>>47931676
>I want to start a dark eldar army because I love their models but I don't like the idea of playing an army without a psychic phase as I love space wizards
We're in the exact same boat my man. Have you considered Corsairs? They're what I settled on and ordered recently. Crazy as fuck glass cannon army that plays a lot like DE with some Craftworld bullshit thrown in and yet very little of its cheese. They have psykers but you have to go full balls to the wall to use them because they will very easily fuck you over when they go wrong.

The best part is you can convert most of their models from DE, or if you're lazy just build DE as Corsairs. It won't work out if you're into the Haemonculus related shit, but I guess they can't have it all. But that's what allies are for, right?

>>47931676
Well, the Deldar Start Collecting is fantastic if you do go for the BDSM elves. Just ally in a farseer if you miss the psychic phase terribly!

>>47931780
It maybe a khornate infection but i still love to believe its the primarchs rage continuing to each generation...
Wait maybe thats why the Blood Angels codex is shit is because they will fall to chaos and want to get all us BA players ready for a shitty dex :^)

>>47928788

and drill the barrel.

>>47931601
Dont the autocannons one shoot once though? Why would the autocannons be better vs hordes?

>>47931772
Around September 2014 onwards I'd say. As for archives, I've never used it to go back more than a few weeks. So you'd better hope somebody will better knowledge than I to answer that question.

I'll try and give you another timeframe reference.. remember when 'cuck' and 't.bh' and 'f.am' and 'JUST' started spreading like wildfire? Around that time as well. Though I think it was 2015.

It's one big blur, the fact /tg/, or /40kg/ specifically, have spent entire threads arguing about the fucking OP image, it isn't hard to believe.

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Yo, Hot Pockets, mind cleaning up here?
>>47931780
>otherwise it would be easier to reclaim terminator armour from chaos warbands?
Anon, I don't think it's a wise idea to do that. Some CSM can't leave their armor, some are probably like Typhus, and some probably are their armor.
>Is it possible that the Black Rage is some kind of Khornate possession?
No. It's them going bonkers over Horus hitting Papa Sang so hard that his future children would feel it because Chaos will make you do that.
>>47931802
At this point I wonder why does anyone expect these threads to be different?
>>47931824
>>47931824
>Wait maybe thats why the Blood Angels codex is shit is because they will fall to chaos and want to get all us BA players ready for a shitty dex :^)
Yeah right.
>>47931854
>I'll try and give you another timeframe reference.. remember when 'cuck' and 't.bh' and 'f.am' and 'JUST' started spreading like wildfire? Around that time as well. Though I think it was 2015.
Okay I was there for that. Never has the internet ever planted such hate into me with only a few meaningless words. One of those I thought was suppose to be filtered by the word filter, but apparently Japanese Moot needs a better word filter.

>>47931780
I remember /tg/, or somebody, wrote an alternative Heresy, Dorian Heresy(?), which had the Loyalists go Chaos and Traitors remain Loyal. I believe Sanguinius and Blood Angels fell when Nurgle offered them a cure to the Red Thirst. Which they took. Bit like Mortarion.

Red Thirst is a genetic defect they have anyway. Black Rage is the psychic backlash of Sanguinius dying, since BA were the 2nd most psychically potent Legion (behind Thousand Sons, but ahead of Sons of Horus). At least that's what the codexes and fluff says. So, as they think they're Sanguinius, and Sanguinius was mad, perhaps he was going to Khorne and by him dying he actually prevented BA's falling as it cut the potential full contamination link, but left the residue that causes problems?

There was a Chapter which basically 'cured' the Red Thirst/Black Rage by turning into less excessive Emperor's Children, writing poetry, painting, sculpting, making weapons and shiny stuff. But it's implied the Changeling got them to give that up and they got wiped out as they all fell to Black Rage and suicides themselves.

>>47931899
>yeah right
Sorry just poking some harmless fun with a meme

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>>47931925
>There was a Chapter which basically 'cured' the Red Thirst/Black Rage by turning into less excessive Emperor's Children, writing poetry, painting, sculpting, making weapons and shiny stuff. But it's implied the Changeling got them to give that up and they got wiped out as they all fell to Black Rage and suicides themselves.
They're not dead. They just became the Angels Repentian(I think that's how it was spelled). The Lamenters for a while were free from the RT and BR.
>>47931931
I hate that meme, Anon. I've seen it one too many times.

>>47931886
>the photoshop art is shit and actual artists are good
>photoshop art

That isn't you going "this specific art is bad" it's you going "photoshop art is bad". But damage control your way out of this one, perhaps throwing more insults?

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>>47931854
I've been a regular in the 40k general for a little over 3 years. The worst times for these threads was the 2-3 months after the Tyranid codex was updated, and the past 3ish months.

If you come to the 40k general for legitimate 40k discussion, odds are you're going to be disappointed. But there is occasional entertainment, and decent anons posting content. When I post it's almost always pics of models, or to help some noob that asks for advice here.

>>47931846
Why don't you look at your codex? Heavy 2 s7 ap4 48 inches.

>>47930833

Yes, he probably went in to the game with a "ofh... why oh why do I have to put up with this shit?!?".
You have an aura of retardation glowing about your mental state if you thought that was fun. That, or your simply in the wrong forum, which is probably the case. Go back to /v/ and laugh while some kids get kicked out of online games in the middle of a match.

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>>47931967
>The worst times for these threads was the 2-3 months after the Tyranid codex was updated
Not him but how bad could they have been compared to now? That was before my time, Anon.
>and the past 3ish months.
Try 8ish months.

>>47932004
>GW's photoshop's art is bad
In what sense? Even Koyfish and monkey being terrible books had decent artwork in it.

>>47931954
Wait, they did? I can't remember. I'd have to re-read it. The was a Deathwatch story in the omnibus about a Angel something, Resplendent, who was a friend of the Salamander protag. He gets injured, Salamander leaves him to finish mission, comes back, guy is gone, he wasn't dead. It ends with something like "They never saw the Angel Resplendent again, and dark rumours abounded that the chapter was no more" or something like that.

>>47932004
If just half of the anons that argue in these threads would stop, the generals would be so much better.

Just let people disagree with you without having a shitposting contest. People are going to be 'wrong' on the internet, dont bother pointing it out to them.

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Is Britian leaving the EU and the pound crashing going to affect my warhams?

>>47932004
But you didn't. You said photoshop art is bad. You even started with this lovely bit

>shitty photoshop art that simply takes existing models and transcribes them onto a picture [...]

Again, attacking photoshop art, not the picture, but the art 'style', if you will. Keep damage controlling bro!

>>47932021
For months after the Nid codex was updated, the generals were dominated by rageposting and whining. It was out of control.

>>47932051
Its not even on Steam sale...

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I found this in my DG folder. Now that I know that's a Nid part this guy's Morty is using as a scythe I don't know what to say.
>>47932041
Yeah their old name was Resplendent.

>>47932051
Hopefully we won't leave. Because that would be retarded.

But currently the pound is getting stronger, I saw that it's at £1-$1.50 and £1-€1.30

>>47932075
I get that he was doing Daemon Prince Mortarion.... but feathers?

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>>47932068
Compared to Al'Kaps, the Tau update reaction, and all the false flagging done in these days how was that bad?

>>47932104
Thats fine, but does it matter to you that your long drawn out arguments - over shit that only you and your arguing partner care about - just ruins generals for the rest of us?

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>>47931710
England I am afraid my friend

>>47931802
I love the PURE EVIL AND FATHOMLESS EDGE of them, amoral pirates dont cut it for me.

>>47931822
If I'm allying in psykers I would like to look in to harlies more.

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>>47932110
Mortarion's ye olden Epic model had angel wings, and I think some modern lore has mentioned Ol'Morty having feathers now.

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>>47932044
This is down to one anon, one anon alone. I don't even think the original guy is arguing any more, he said at least twice he wanted to quit. I assume he has. I think it's either people wanting to bait a VERY easily baitable anon, or people who think the anon is a cunt.

I agree with both sentiments, but I won't engage either side, it's pointless. I've tried to keep it on topic. The guy has admitted to wanting to shit up generals because he can, so that's the kind of person we have in these threads.

>>47931967
>>47932021
It's been a long time, it's just worse in the last 3 months or so.

See this picture? Went to the trouble of asking a friend to try his best to fix some really shitty stuff on the original picture. He took his time to do it, despite being a hentai game colourer as his job. He did it for free, as a friend, pretty decently too for a quick go over. Yet when I posted it, nobody seemed to notice. That's fine, I get that, but the point is that effort is often ignored when it's easy to get (You)'s with shitposting.

>>47932075
Is it more or less of a problem that his skirt (because it is a skirt) is made of Sanguinary Guard?

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>>47932133
I'm the original guy who made the comment, I stopped replying to everybody about the topic like an hour ago. Others have just latched on to it. Re-read the convo chains, outside of referencing back, I'm not involved and haven't posted to him.

I was just making my opinion on the matter, he took it as an example of 'wrong opinions' and attacked, so I said to end it. I ended it. He didn't. Others carried on. Such is life

>>47932135
>we'll never get a neat model like this any more
>GW will never make subtle hints about blowjobs and semen in rules again.

>>47932135
>vect.png
>vect absent from 7e codex
It hurts

>>47932137
Fuck I've never seen this model before but I love it. Why are all the old models so full of character even the ones that are complete shit?

>>47932192
game wasn't streamlined and structed then. i remember looking at the weird 3rd edition harlequin book and wondering how the fuck anyone was suppose to play with this book

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>>47932146
What was wrong with the original?
>He took his time to do it, despite being a hentai game colourer as his job. He did it for free, as a friend, pretty decently too for a quick go over.
Your friend sounds interesting.
>Yet when I posted it, nobody seemed to notice. That's fine, I get that, but the point is that effort is often ignored when it's easy to get (You)'s with shitposting.
I noticed and I think some people have mentioned it before.
>>47932148
I don't know, Anon. I just don't know. His skirt may have been made using SG wings for the conversion, but maybe he could Morty ripped off space bird wings.

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>>47932192
>Fuck I've never seen this model before but I love it. Why are all the old models so full of character even the ones that are complete shit?
Here's Fulgrim's. I think he ripped a tentacle off instead of getting an actual 4th sword.

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>>47932119
The Tau update and subsequent whining was nothing compared to the lengthy Nid shitposting. The occasional thread dominated by Tau arguing is annoying, but following the Nid codex, every thread was ruined for months.

The past few months of generals have been pretty bad. I'm not 100% sure why, but Ive been here long enough to recognize there are at least a couple new (in the past few months) people that post constantly. If I had to guess Id say theres a few anons that migrated to/discovered /tg/, and have taken up residency in the 40k general.

All you can really do is not reply to shitposting, and wait for them to move on to their next interest. Just post content, and dont get drawn into the shitposting.

>>47932135
>>47932188
Actually, speaking of dark eldar, how is the haemonculus supplement?

I only looked at the main codex when planning my army, does the suppliment add anything noteworthy like new ways to play them or is it just formations?
I remember someone mentioning a 'corpse thief claw' being really overpowered.

>>47930352
HAH, They fucking learned from the mistakes with Cataphractii:
"This wargear follows ALL THE RULES FOR TERMINATOR ARMOUR but in addition the wearer may make sweeping advances"

It's a damn shame too, but it would have been fucking hilarious to put the tartaros pattern on a bike as well.

>>47932075
Where is the fluff that says they became something else? That's odd if true. I swear they suicided themselves?

>>47932051
If you're in the UK, yes. If you're in the EU, your currency is even worse. If you're in USA, your currency is actually not that bad, not good, but not bad, so you should be OK. Canada and Australia/NZ, fuck knows.

>>47932095
I want to leave simply because the EU is just like the Imperium. Overblown bureaucracy which is used incorrectly. If you're in the UK, you might remember the Cod Wars. Which was essentially the EU going "Iceland needs more money than you, UK. So give up all your fishing areas to them". So they did and it caused the 70's economic depression to be way way worse than it had to be.

But that's my opinion. EU is a nice idea, but not used properly. Instead of uniting to fix the immigrant problem, we tried to palm it off to other people. Right now, France should be registering every single person in 'the Jungle' in Calais in France, per EU LAW. But they don't, their argument is 'they want to go to UK, so they register them', but that isn't the Law. They're breaking it because they want use to deal with it.

Either way, this is 40kg...

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>>47932192
Different times, anon. I still like the newer models and I grew up with 1st edition 40k (or whatever 1998 was, was it 1st or 2nd then? 2nd maybe?)

>>47932250
It's probably stronger than vanilla now that blasterborn is dead and buried but might be regenerated later on if the FAQ changes.

>>47931676
I have Orks & Necrons, & the only Imperial army I'd consider starting would be Sisters, because they FUCK up space marines, & that's rad.

I also would like a more psychic army, but would never use SMs of any flavor. Suffering.

I would punch a Nob in the dangly bits for plastic Sisters & an update to 7th Ed; probably Inquisition allies for psyker spam.

>>47932284
>1998

3rd ed.

>>47932188
>GW will never make subtle hints about blowjobs and semen in rules again
you want to explain that little bit there? when the hell was that in anyones rules?

>>47931713
> Teleport homer returning the wearer to the battle barge if he dies
This is also canon in the Space Hulk Games. Terminator Armour automagically teleports itself back to the home ship whenever it detects that a corpse is piloting it instead of a space marine.

>>47932265
Well I think you're better than that, anon.

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>>47932237
Now I have to start digging in the archives. Here's I think the same guy who made >>47932075 made this Angron conversion.
>>47932261
>Where is the fluff that says they became something else? That's odd if true. I swear they suicided themselves?
Might have been a different chapter. I remember it going like this.
>chapter was free of the flaws
>Changling was disguised as a stranger
>chaplains took him in to test him and was impressed with his knowledge of Imperial lore
>It said the chapter was sinners because of their ways of channeling the flaws
>chapter stopped doing their excessive art and started getting the Flaws

>>47930325
>>47930352
So it's he's a generic Sigismund?
This is "broken" now?

>>47932188
>GW will never make subtle hints about blowjobs and semen in rules again
>Semen

What do you think geneseed is? Is sperm! They literally put another pair of balls inside their recruits to give them super-puberty and those balls produce geneseed! Sperm!.

> Want to run 3 arc rifles with my vanguard
> Vanguard/ranger kit only comes with one
What the fuck GW?

>>47931661
I submit that you are being extremely rude towards people on the autism spectrum by declaring that they are all "fucking degenerate losers." That aside, the term itself is often used in a lighthearted self-deprecatory manner anyway. Why take it so seriously that you latch onto it the whole thread and never let go?

>>47932265
>However as >>47932188 said, 40k is full of autists and us autists have to do what we have to do.
If you literally can't stop yourself from doing this because of some sort of condition, then I suppose the rest of us will have to put up with it, but I doubt that's the case.

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>>47932312
And here's Angron's ye olden Epic model.
>>47932303
Neat.

>>47930352
>>47930325
wow how fluffy. the loyalist faggots get legion praetors while CSM who actually still has legions, gets nothing.

nice job GW, just keep forcing 30k shit into 40k with broken rules to sell models.

>>47932296
It was? When did it switch to 3rd?

>>47932297
As far as I can remember, those things on her hands, looked like vibrators/dildos. The rules had he stab them into people and 'suck out their vital fluids', which is obviously blood, but could be referenced to semen. She also lead a Kabal called "The Emasculators". She got faster and stronger the more she 'sucked' out of people, seeing as 90% of the soldiers are men, two and two...

Also that model has painted her bodysuit in skin tones to make it look lewder than it is. 'Eavy Metal scheme had her in a spandex suit. Which isn't much different...

>>47932234
>>47932352
Did they have Magnus? This shit is just Epic

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>>47932359
Is probably fake. Now why would chapters in the modern m41 get Legion Praetors when a praetor is just a chapter master?

>>47932367
>It was? When did it switch to 3rd?

1998.

>>47932261
The dollaridoo (au$) is in a bad place right now.

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>>47932382
You can say it was absolutely bananas. Sorry, Pert, but Magnus is going first.

>>47932385
>Now why would chapters in the modern m41 get Legion Praetors when a praetor is just a chapter master?
because gw are dickheads and want to sell OP models for high prices?

like the free ID marine

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I think this is a Daemon Perturabo conversion.

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>>47932347
Hope this helps, anon.

http://www.bitzbox.co.uk/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=arc+rifle

If you're an Amerianon.

http://megabitzshop.com/navi.php?jtl_token=03524d3aa7698d631bf5079521a468b6&jtl_token=03524d3aa7698d631bf5079521a468b6&suchausdruck=arc+rifle

>>47932416
>that crusty fucking marine at the bottom
i laughed more than i should have

>>47932390
Okay, then I started at the end of it. I got my first models in 97, first army in 98.

I recently found my old Lord on Juggernaut of Khorne box. I can't find my old CSM army though...

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>>47932416
I don't know why he decided Pert looks like Blastoise now as a daemon, but in a way it feels right.
>>47932414
>just a chapter master in termie armor
>>47932431
All of Pert's resentment is showing.
>>47932433
Well laugh at this.

>>47932359
You are assuming a praetor from the GC would be the same.
If anything, it would simply be an alternate rank, like when Captains were called Force Commanders.

>>47932445
>fuck these cannons are so heavy
>oh shit I tripped
>help meeee

>>47932445
Did perturabo even turn into a huge hulking daemon prince or does he just look like normal save an extra horn or two?

This thread is boring as shit. Instead of arguing about how much of an asshole everyone is, let's argue about rules. You know, like every other thread I've been in for the past week. You know you love it just as much as I do, or you'd just ignore it.

So, how badly did I manage to fuck up the game?

BRB Changes:

>Assaulting
Units can now choose to Charge at the beginning of any friendly Assault Phase
The following conditions will result in a Disordered Charge:
-Unit ran this turn
-Unit does not have Line of Sight of the target
-Unit entered the battlefield this turn (including deployment)
-Unit disembarked from a Transport this turn (exceptions for Assault and Open-Topped Transports)
-Unit fired one or more weapons without the Pistol or Assault weapon types this turn
-Charging through Difficult or Dangerous Terrain
-Charging multiple units
-Consolidating into combat
Disordered Charges now cause models to lose their additional attack from multiple weapons, as well as the additional attack from charging

>Vehicles
Vehicles with the Heavy subtype now treat Immobilized and Explodes! results on the vehicle damage table as Crew Stunned
Weapon Destroyed result on the vehicle damage table is replace by Weapon Damaged: A random weapon may only fire Snap Shots for the remainder of the game
Walkers now use Vehicle rules for movement during the movement phase. They still Run like infantry.
Fast Walkers now run 6" rather than D6", and gain Fleet
Fast Walkers now make D3 Hammer of Wrath Attacks at S8 if they ran in the preceeding Shooting phase

>Destroyer Weapons
The Stomp table is removed and now refers to the Destroyer table
Strength D weapons on models that are neither Gargantuan Creatures nor Superheavy Vehicles now get -3 on their rolls on the Destroyer table, as well as -1 to their damage rolls.
Strength D weapons on Knight-class SHV/GMC models now get -2 to their rolls on the Destroyer table

>>47932404
Wow bro you are really depressed. /40kg/ aside, get help for yourself man. Feeling hostility and anger toward random anons, and 'ruining things' for people in order to gain satisfaction for yourself- thats not good bro.

If you wont get help, at least take an honest look at yourself.

>>47932414
>45 point single MEQ model with short range, single shot weapons
>no way to avoid being splatted by the plethora of AP2/3 blasts in the game
>needs to literally get in the face of enemies to do anything
Yea, anon, a single MEQ infantry model is going to change the face of the game. Stop that.

>>47932449
Or Marshals.

Only place it'd work is Space Wolves, as their Wolf Lords are Chapter Masters by default. They are hands down better than every other generic you can get, simply due to Acute Senses and, in effect, +1A.

Blood Angels only get Captains (Space Wolves can make generic Chapter Master level guys AND take their actual Chapter Master as a LoW0) and +1S on the charge isn't better than a global +1A.

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>>47932445
But here is the most likely what he looks like. Somehow him having a mortar launcher on him feels right. Just combine the two cannons Pert with this and I'll be happy.
>>47932470
Such is life for Perturabo.
>>47932474
I have no idea besides him becoming huge like other DPs.

>>47932478
I apologize to phoneposters for my shitty formatting.

>>47932492
>its ok that they gave an overpriced model broken rules, because its a space marine and i play space marines.
stop that

Does anybody know of some decent Steel Legion alternatives? Aside from recasts that is.

>>47932075
That would a lot better with wings from the zombie dragon.

>>47932506
Looks ok on my phone.

>>47932516
No, I've just been playing the game long enough to know that a single troop model is NOT a force multiplier.
Have you ever seen the model in play, or did you see ID on a space marine and start screetching?

>>47932445
>Perturabo is a cyberdaemon
Actually makes sense.

>>47932516
The guy is 45 points. He will die to bolter shots. A single Thunder Hammer/Power Fist/Power Claw/Encarmine Axe/Demolish Cannon/Heavy Rail Gun/Ion Cannon

And dozens of other weapons will remove him from the border. If he had double the weapon range or Eternal Warrior, you'd have a point. But that guy will go down easy.

He is the guy Vindicares were designed for.

>>47932359
You are assuming this isn't fake.

>>47932543
I wouldn't be surprised if he was a Proto-Obliterator. Think about it.

>>47932478
Here's a better one:
>Strength D weapons on models that are neither Gargantuan Creatures nor Superheavy Vehicles aren't fucking there

>>47932561
Take him in an Iron Hands force.
Give him gorgons chain.
problems solved.

>>47932517
http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/product/highland-moss-guard-complete-10-man-squad-resin

Any good? Few others on there. Mordian and Praetorian proxies. Also Cadian females.

>>47932574
if it was real would you even be surprised at this point? gw is a fucking joke

>>47932581
Apart from WG, is there anything that isn't superheavy that has the D? maybe I'm stuck thinking of infantry by the only things that come to mind are the Warp Hunter and Lynx, latter of which is only not a superheavy so it can be blown out of the sky in one shot like Eldar shit is supposed to do. Pls no Shokk Attack Gun.

>>47932593
Unless he's been FAQ'd, the guy cannot take relics. He literally replaces any regular Space Marine and dies just the same.

>>47932565
No you aren't a fat neck beard.
Your the guy who can't handle the fat neckbeards calling you mean names. If your hurt by the words of a bunch of losers, your a much bugger loser.

>>47932629
Shit, really? Like that anniversary marine?

>>47932629
Isn't ISM W1? Just nuke his squad, the most durable he can be is if he's in a LR and at that point he's wasting points.

>>47932614
>gw is a fucking joke

And you're the jester king for supporting the product

>b-b-but I don't buy anything from Jew Double Jew!

You're advertising the product just my playing it. Just my mentioning it. By being here, you are advertising it.

Don't like evil GW? Then leave. Quit. Find a new hobby.

Honestly, there are loads of minis out there for you to try, why are you here?

>>47932593
Make him 150 points base, remove the ability to access wargear and chapter rules to represent a warrior outside the chain of command.
Give him a storm or combi-bolter for ranged, and I'd be good.
A captain with artificer armor, relic blade and storm bolter is 150, and hase access to chapter rules.
>>47932657
We are talking about the anniversary marine.
The other guy is probably talking about the not!Praetor.

>>47932675
>already invested in the game
>likes the setting
>plays with friends
Not him but there are a shitton of reasons why it's hard to simply "quit".

>>47932604
>$5 a mini
why tho

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>>47932657
>>47932664
Unless it's been FAQ'd, these are his stats. I have also doubled checked, he is only LEGALLY allowed to be fielded by Vanilla Space Marines. You cannot use him legally with BA, DA, GK or SW. But they always do the shitty disclaimer of "b-but it's your hobby do what you want", neat, well tell that to the autistic fucks who'll go "NOT LEGAL AND IT'S OP ANYWAYS"

A single Vindicare will splatter it's brains across the board before it took a fucking step towards a target.

>>47932284

Those look so goddamn shitty that I can't help but love them. The two on the outside actually look like they'd make good AdMech something-or-others with a bit of conversion.

>>47932675
>y-you support the product by buying chinese FW and making fun of retards on an irrelevant cantonese finger painting imageboard
try harder gw sales rep

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Sadly I've got nothing on Daemon Lorgar but we do have art of him. He's just taller, grew horns, and got big meaty hands now. The Gods must have ran out of ideas when they turned him into a Prince.

>>47932619
Vaul's Wrath and Hemlock, off the top of my head. I think Necrons get one, too.

>>47932581
It's a 1/3 chance to do 0-2 damage, on average it's 1/3 of a wound per hit. A squad of 5 Wraithguard will be able to damage anything, but won't destroy a Land Raider in one turn of shooting anymore.

>>47932697
Because, surprise surprise, GW isn't as expensive as memers like to claim it is. GW sells pretty much industry average and for the quality (regardless of the actual design and the fact they scrapped Failcast) it's not TOO bad.

http://www.pig-iron-productions.com/kl1-kolony-militia-booster-pack-p-1.html

Any better?

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>>47932720
It was a different time, anon. But I think those Dreads would be perfect Ork Killa Kans or something.

>>47932729
But he's right, you do. It's called advertisement. Exposure. There is a reason Knight Titans and Wrath Knights are the selling point of DoW3, to shift more models. By playing with friends, you are showing people 40k. That's how it works. Why do you think slogans and logos are plastered on innocuous things such as shopping bags?

>>47932789
>By playing with friends, you are showing people 40k.
no im not. we game in each others garages and shit. i havent set foot in a store in like 10 years and ive never even been in a GW. shut the fuck up

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>>47932747
There is a full sized version somewhere but I don't know where it is.
>>47932789
There is nothing wrong with the old LoC.

>>47932753
>Vaul's Wrath and Hemlock
Of course it would be more fucking Eldar.

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Anyone want me to keep posting Daemon Primarch art? Oh and by the way this is where that one guy probably got the idea of feathers from.

>>47932747
>Lets make Lorgar big and stunning! A beautiful priest!
>NO! BIG AND BLOODY, STRENGTH THROUGH VIOLENCE AND HORNS, TONS OF THEM!
>Big yes, horns are not good, needs more color and bigger!! Also feathers! Or not..
>Guys we got better shit to do, lets just agree on big and horny..

Probably took them millenia to reach that consensus.

>>47932806
Oh, well then I guess not, but do your friends play anywhere else? I'm just saying anon, that's what happens. Not saying YOU personally do, but lots do. Wasn't shitting, was literally saying that you're supporting GW by proxy, one way or another. But, fair play, was saying there are better companies out there (supposedly) and better games out there.

>>47932810
I have a soft spot for the current one, anon. It's what got me into Chaos.

>>47932753
Necrons only have D on the c'tan powers table.

>>47932849
Yes.
Got that pme woith Mort and Draigo?

About how many of the taniths first and only are there left. Also any good models to represent them on the table top

>>47932619
Any psyker who can roll on sanctic can throw D blasts around if he has the charges for it.

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>>47932747
No, this should be his canon Daemon Prince form.

BEARD OF EVIL™! is the best.

>>47932884
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Gaunt-s-Ghosts

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>>47932849
And his more modern look.
>>47932851
>>47932854
What he's lacking is the wings but he probably could poof them up.
>>47932870
This?

>>47932889
Oh look, and Eldar do this better than most as well. What a surprise.

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>reading this thread

>>47932930
Yeeeah, das it mang.
I honestly love it, it screams "You came to the wrong neighborhood, loyalist" while still being very recognizable..

>>47932929
See but that comes with only 1 actual tanith soldier thats not from the fluff

Anyone got a link to a page detailing old discontinued dreadnought models? I wanna know more about those.

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>>47932921
He's a daemon, he can poof up a beard.
>>47932968
It does my heart some good to know I made ya happy. Now moving on Fulgrim.

>>47932921

That looks like it could be Erebus or Kor Phaeron at this point.

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>>47932985
And now the man reflects his ugly mug.

>>47932989
>Kor Phaeron
But it looks like it's alive, anon.

How do i play as Blood Ravens?

Do they have chapter tactics?

>>47932985
Ah, Fulgrim.
I just don't kike his look. The snekman thing ain't tickling me.

>>47933016
You play DoW.

>>47933016
Gladius, take drop pods.
Give your captain a thunder hammer (jump pack optional, but recommended).
Use whatever tactics you like because that's what the codex says to do.
Remember to take Conclave to represent the fluff of having a bunch of librarians. Just don't let them get too chummy with the captain. It'll make him sad when he has to blam them.

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>>47933006
Let's move on to Nails for Brains.
>>47933022
Just throw a space mongoose at him to ward him off.

>>47932921
>>47932930
>>47933042
So far, these three are my favorite.

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>>47933042
Here's Magnus. If you look closely you can see the wings.
>>47933016
>Do they have chapter tactics?
I believe that there's an IA to help you there.

>>47933073
>IA
Not for Blood Ravens. There is in Deathwatch RPG, funnily enough, but that's neither here nor there.

If I'm misremembering and there actually is one, it'll most likely say to use the tactics you feel are most appropriate, as is the case for any chapter whose origins aren't clear/are divergent and so on.

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>>47933073
It's fanart but we have nothing on Ol'Perty. There's official art of Daemon Lorgar for goodness's sake but for daemon Perturabo? Nada. Kind of fitting in a way.

>Warning for not posting Traditional Games
Why don't warnings tell you the post? I'm pretty sure it was the screencap I did... But there is loads of those up still. Odd. Oh well. Rules are rules, I guess.

>>47932884
>>47932974
http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/product/scout-complete-10-man-squad

>>47933073
>>47933016
>>47933039
Blood Ravens used to have chapter tactics. It was basically something like "can take a combat knife for +1 point" and "Can only use certain Predators" and something else.

>>47932478
>Fast walkers have a 30" threat range
I think that might be too powerful. Whoever goes first and brings more dreadnoughts will win.

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>>47932215
Sorry, was blocked from posting, this was the original, not that.

Look on this guys left (our right) shoulder pad. The text overlayed on it is hanging off the edges. It's been poorly done. So my mate fixed it.

Are Renegades a fun army?

>>47933239
>Dreadnoughts
>fast
You're right though. That and just Marines in general with Dreads in pods.

>>47933277
If dreadnoughts aren't fast, what would be? Sentinels?

>>47933272
Well, IA13 certainly gives them neat shit. The fact CSM can now get GOOD Land Raiders (relatively) in Achilles is neat. Also the fact that the Achilles needs to be constantly bathed in blood and have rites performed or it eats the crew is a neat touch as it hates Chaos so much it's not possible to corrupt.

The Spartan is also available, but it isn't a Dedicated Transport. Neat model, neat rules. You could fit 25 Khorne Zerkers into it. It's pretty much impervious to anything other than mass S10 and D shots. Melta and Lance don't touch it iirc. Plus it does 4 twin-linked Lascannon shots a turn.

>>47933309
Contemptors at a stretch, BA Dreads with the fast engines. That's about it.

>>47933239
>>47933277
>>47933309
Rulesfag here, I had intended for close combat Walkers and robot MCs to become Fast Walkers, and walking artillery like the Deredeo to be Heavy Walkers.

Is just allowing charges all the time without increasing the speed going to be enough to make Dreadnoughts useful?

>>47933433
BA dreads can get fast engines?

>>47933443
Just make dreadnoughts monstrous creatures. Problem solved.

>>47933443
2bh allowing charges from a drop pod is more what I take issue with. Marines can quite easily spam Dreads or, if they have the points, Ironclads, and could drown the enemy in AV12 and 13 with lots of S10 attacks (base 4, remember, so disordered charge still gives them that many + HoW) on the first turn without fail. What is the counter to that? They're too strong to reliably kill in overwatch and unless you're Tau (to which AV13 is a nice counter for most units that take the upgrade anyway) then Interceptor is rare.

On a tangientally related note, what about rifleman Dreads? If the base chassis is fast, how exactly do you handle that?

>>47933449
No, but I assume rules anon would/would have given them the option.

>>47933506

The simple solution is to not allow dreads to take any pod except the large dreadnought pod, and not allow assaults out of that.

So what should the blood angel decurion do/be about?

>>47932675
Is it still ok to paint and model with GW stuff, but also think they are managed by retards?

>>47933695

Since when was liking a company a requirement for purchasing its products?

I'm sure 99% of the companies we buy shit from are full of idiots and greedy faglords. Coke and Pepsi, for example.

>>47933633

Melta, fast vehicles, and jump packs.

>>47933633
assault cannons

>>47933756
I can't think of the last time Pepsi pulled a stunt as blatantly anti-consumer as charging over $100 for a couple of books with blatant errors and then deriding their customers for pointing them out when asked for feedback.

>>47933243
Oh now I see it.

>>47933773
>>47933785
Okay but what should the rules do to help those things?

Does anyone play over tabletop simulator?

I kind of want to play a casual game or two.

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>>47933847
>I can't think of the last time Pepsi pulled a stunt as blatantly anti-consumer as charging over $100 for a couple of books with blatant errors and then deriding their customers for pointing them out when asked for feedback.
They've got the gravity to pull you in though.

>>47934009
You assume people here play the game.

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>>47932007
>missing the point by miles
>calls others retards

No one who has actually played or seen an Apocalypse game can NOT know that the entire match is about calamities so insanely yuge that vast swathes of models are invariably - and hilariously - removed from the board AS COLLATERAL DAMAGE in turn one without having fired a shot. It's okay if you're not comfy with that concept, and it means you may not like Apocalypse, but it does NOT mean you can tell others they aren't having fun.

Would it be worth converting an old rogue trader style dreadnought, and if so: How should I go about it?

>>47933506
Okay, how about this?

>Dreadnoughts are heavy
>PE, DK, Battlesuits are Fast
>Dreadnoughts can't assault from pods
>Disordered charge additionally reduces attackers to I1
>Krak Grenades are AP1 against vehicles

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>>47932955
>unsupported assertion is opinion
>not shitposting

Opinions based on lies are objectively wrong and contribute nothing. Contributing nothing is literally the definition of shitposting. Shitposting is clearly not opinion.

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They are however 100% cool with other chaos units.

>>47934130
>9 siege guns
Well, That board's gonna be a parking lot soon.

>>47934130
What the fuck are you using for a titan.

does anybody run sanguinary priests with 10 man squads of assault termies in a spartan assault tank?