Infinity General: Murderous Mercenary Edition

>>47916173

Every faction is the good guys and every faction is the bad guys depending on how you play it and your point of views.

I really like how Infinity fluff feels real, and gives you people, characters and situations you can empathize with.

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What are your favorite lists with bikes?

>>47919871
I play my NCA as super nationalistic millitary police, that keep on messing up their missions that they've probably done more to foster peace within the sphere than the damage they're trying to do.

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>>47920090
So Team America?

Pretty hilarious.

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>>47919943
I'm tired of being wrecked by these beezees.

>>47919943
Made a dumb list for USAriadna that runs max amount of Mavericks and Desperados.

Not much to do for objectives, but it's funny to race around the table and cover it in smoke.

>>47920834
Best usa list is max hard cases and max foxtrot, with infiltratin grunts for maximum camo fuckery

>>47921562
But that's not nearly enough bikes.

>>47921603
U want bikes go kebab

>>47921618
Kebab bikes no C. Eastwood, kurwa.

>>47921618
But that's not nearly enough AMERICA.

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>>47920834
Is it something like this?
That looks hilarious.

>>47921676
Heh, got it just right there, anon.

Did a similar list with Haqqislam. Halqa with all the Kum I could handle so everything got to the middle or more early.

>>47921692
Halqa sectorial when?

>>47922722
Khanate never, anon.

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Whoop.

>>47923079
fuck me those Kauuri are disappointing

>>47923079
those stingrays look pretty hype

>>47923079
Foxtrot is shit, what a surprise.

>>47923079
The TAGs look fantastic. Wu Ming look good too, though some of the poses are overused. I wish the Foxtrot had an overused pose, because overused is better than whatever the fuck is going on there.

I'll see what Kaauri look like when they aren't painted bright cyan before passing my final judgement, but they look like dogshit there. Especially the one with that tactical fistpump that doesn't suit the model at all.

>>47923146
We've known that for a while.
Girls gonna girl lean.

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does this mean they are both going to be in the same box? if so, I ain't playing with the uhlan.

>>47923079
>june releases
>Achilles
but that nigga's been out since christmas

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>>47923283

>>47923250
I think so. It's unfortunate and I'm not sure it's a wise move on CB's part. It seems that a lot of people want one and not the other, so they're either going to split the box with someone else or refrain from buying them entirely, and both those actions mean less profit for CB. They could probably even make us pay more per model by boxing them separately.

>>47923250
I don't want the tilikbalangaglanga, are you from Australia? Maybe we could do a split box.

>>47923250
Yeah, apparently. And I feel the same. Tikbalang is great, Uhlan is meh and you'd only ever take one.

Love those TAGs. Dat Brad Pitt

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What's the latest news on the rpg? I've only been halfway paying attention to it lately, due to RL stuff, and I'm curious what we're looking at so far.

Have a dog warrior I hope to play in it in exchange.

>>47923525
I suspect around 50% of RPG characters will be dog warriors.

furries, sigh

>>47923583
Im a massive furry and I want to play as some kind of PanO religious spec ops

>>47923583

I'm not a furry, I just like werewolves. And not in a sexual war; werewolves are not for sexual, they are for rip and tear.

>>47923079

TIK NOW

>>47923079
>June releases
>Won't be available until at least late July

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>>47923592
if you want to be real pano you should play a "white" caucasian.

>>47923739
I don't understand this meme

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>>47923583
Fuck that.

I want to be an efficient operative of ALEPH. Removing Nomads six times per movement, and twice on the astral plane.

>>47923980
is that a Voltron reference?

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>>47923980
That machinery looks like it'd be a lot more suitable for, say, welding up a motorcycle frame than cyborg maintenance.

>>47924083
Maybe she's about to be turned into a motorcycle.

>>47923806
It's an /int/ meme, where black faced Argentinian insists that Argentina is white. I guess the blue and white in the flag (and the fact that South America is indeed PanO country in the fluff) was enough.

>>47923525
They semi-regularly release snippets. Last one was vehicles general rules.

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Is the Mercenary faction playable on their own?

>>47924277
No, or at least not yet

>>47923583
Damn, my plan to run a game about Ariadnans trying to assassinate the ruler of space Venice will have to go on hold

>DOGE WARRIORS

>>47923592
a doge soldier, if you will

>wow
>much spectral visor

>>47924277
Qapu Khalki is basically Mercenaries, you can use most of the merc models.

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Kauuri look good, but I thought they were S1. These look HUGE.

>>47923988
It didn't start that way, but that's how it ended up.

>>47924696
Yeah, they could easily pass as S2, even a rather small one.

>>47924083
I don't see a difference lol.

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>>47923309
Personally I am getting the Uhlan for my NCA, and the Tik looks so awesome I am going to get some Bagh Mari to play it in ASA.

So they made extra money off of me at least.

>>47924765
>s1 kauuri bigger than some factions HI

there is no scale creep in infinity amirite

nothing wrong with the nomad starter :^)

>>47924277
Why does everyone keep asking this?

>>47924696
I think they only look huge in the pic. It would be nice if they stood beneath a normal model or something. Actually if you look at the railing on the pic you realize that they're pretty short in comparison. The railing should reach about to the wrist of a regular s2 model.

Looking at their bases in the group shot they look zoomed in on.

When I get home tonight I'll photoshop them down to scale.

>>47924931
Once they are zoomed out, it looks like they'd be shoulder high to the wu ming, which would be about right for S1

>>47924803
Spotted the Corregidorian.

>>47925036
I like how the horns give them a connextion to the tohaa but they still manage to look alien.

The tohaa are building up quite a confederation of exalted.

>>47923079
That foxtrot makes me want to throw my USARF away. Pose looks like trash. Thankfully it's the least usefull profile. Pisses me off that marauders and mavericks still need boxes, and CB is trying to pull this shit, as if the Devil Dogs wasnt bad enough.

Tikbalang is fantastic though.

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>>47925506
CB probably googled 'girls shooting' when looking for a pose...

>>47923079
>two versions of Achilles before a single vedic character

Kill me.

Fuck these continentals and their obsession with the Iliad.

>>47925506
Did they copy Scyllas pose?

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>>47925597
I wonder if it is an upper body strength/center of balance thing.

>>47925597
I would take that pose over the foxtrot any day. She has a good line of action from every angle. There's sense of balance, and visually looks cool.

The foxtrot only looks good from 1 angle: the only angle in all of their photo scenes. She's leaning back plus forward like she's peeking around a corner. Just plain looks stupid.

>>47925603
Yeah, looks like they copied her body. At least scylla is in a hacking pose

>>47924803
Go away kanluwen, nobody likes you.

>tfw want to buy Operation Icestorm and get into playing Infinity
>live on an island with only one FLGS
>no one is even remotely interested in it

Life is suffering.

Anyone have a quick rundown of what changed in HSN3? Been following closely up until a month or two ago and haven't been able to read the book itself yet

>>47926502
Get O:I and ask people to play demos with you. I've gotten a bunch of people hooked once the realized how cool the game plays.

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>>47926393
IDK why some idiots freak out when their spec-ops space team is smaller than regular dudes. Of course Wildcats are going to be smaller than the average, they have to sneak around spaceship vents. Those things ain't large.

>>47926641
More links for everyone.
Links don't break at 2 members, its called duo and gives no benefits.
New hacking devices, killer and EVO.
New weapons and equipment.
New Profiles.
Lot more links with members from multiple units.
+3 Wip discover now 5 man bonus.

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>>47923739
PAN OCEANIA IS WHIIIIIITE

Guys I can't acces rulebook right now. If my Moran goes unconscious, can I use his repeater? Any rules quotes?

>>47926672
If I knew at least someone was at least somewhat interested I'd put out the money, but I can't spend money on "maybes" at the moment, sadly.

Maybe after summer...

>learning Infinity with a guy at my FLGS
>play first non-demo game
>150 pts, Pan-O vs. Haqq
>bloody as shit
>lasiq sniper puts four wounds on an ORC trooper, then gets flanked by a fusilier
>father knight blows away al hawwa' hacker in shotgun duel, then gets shredded by janissary
>doctors on both sides have their hands full
>until they both break cover and die to long-distance reaction fire
>agree to disregard retreat rules, the bloodthirst is real
>comes down to my last ghulam and his last fusilier
>jockey for position for two turns
>eventually he blows my guy away
>last man standing has 4 kills, goes home with a backpack full of medals and a wheelbarrow full of teammates

I am very into this game. Can't wait to play a full 300 pointer, Tarik's gonna hit the board like a ton of bricks.

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>>47926727


>links don't break at two

>tohaa face when

Any link changes to Ariadna?

>>47927093
>Ariadna
>Link
wut?

>>47927093
USARF and MRRF remain unchanged. But CHA has a ton of new link options and compositions

>>47927175


What are the new CHA options?

>>47927228
Mormaers and Wulvers gained Haris options.
A single grey rifle can join volunteer or mormaer links.
Scots guard gain duo options and a FO profile.

>>47927228
Greys can Core with volunteers/isobel or Haris with 2 Momaers.

Mormaers gain a haris option

Scots Guard gain a few of Duo options

Willace is the same.

Just check Army6 (which is an android app now).

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>>47927315


>B5 AP HMG/ B4 T2 rifle Haris link backing up my Scotsguard link with FOs now

>>47927315


So I can have a grey rifle join with a mormaer Haris link?

a haris of 2 mormaers and 1 grey rifle

>>47925921
No. I have seen plenty of women shoot without that retarded ass stance.

>>47927462
Yup.
T2 mormaer, AP HMG Mormaer, and T2 Boarding Shotty Grey make a helluva Haris.

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How much of an asshole would I be if I fielded an army like this.

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>>47927337
>Willace is the same.

>>47927536


I'm not particularly intimidated

>>47927580
Thought it would be annoying to go against, just a bunch of crunchy units with a surpise tacbot

>>47923079
There's no way to field those Kaauri Sentinels in a Combined Army is there?
>tfw you like only half of the tohaa units
>those units are mostly guys with animals or the ectoros

>>47926865
No, he is in a null state and his equipment stops working.

>>47926879
Where?

>>47926953
The game really gets good at 10-15 models per side.

I really enjoy the ITS scenarios too, creates lots of tough decisions.

>>47927536
Looks fine.

There arm't many lists outside of true camo spam or 30 plus models that I get disgusted by, and those for being annoying rather than power levels.

>>47927865
Not a chance. Their fluff is they were specifically bioengineered to kill Shas.

Just field those units.

They will probably be an Exalted Sectorial down the road too.

>>47927699
The tacbot won't be a surprise though because your opponent will see 9 orders.

Drop a point, take a mulbot, and put the tacbot in group 2. Get one of your dudes killed, move him to group one with a CT and then enjoy the look on your opponents face.

>>47927536
Meh. I retain my sentiment that people binding themselves to 5 member Core links seriously restricts their list building, and in game options. Particularly if you're aiming for an optimised 1 combat group list. People get blinders about that +3 BS. Sure it's powerful, but it sure does tie your hands...

>>47928018
>30 plus models
This is seriously a thing people run?

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Kaaurii should be S1.5

>>47928123
Have a guy in my meta who does. He never wins any tournaments but his games always take forever.

>>47928085
That really does sound dicky

>>47928123
it was more of a funsy build, since I like the idea of an Orc Harris. If I was getting serious I could just drop some bolts. I got carried away with the idea of "really hard to kill infantry".

>>47928167
Wow. Ariadna presumably? Does he even rank?

>>47928189
I do the whole "surprise order shunt" with TO & AD quite frequently.

If you like tanky infantry, you'd like a list I'm going to be running at an ITS tourney for Frontline. 4 man Janissary link with an Odalisque Haris.

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>>47928149
> Tohaa baby guards are taller than Corregidor manlets

>>47923232
UHLANS HYPE

>>47924098
myfetish.bmp

>>47928259
Haqqislam.

Holy crap are Mutts annoying.

>>47928189
You limited to NCA?

>>47927497
No. It works, why should null state shut down a repeater?

>>47928689

Actually it doesn't work.

http://infinitytheforums.com/forum/topic/343-unconscious-repeater-model/

Same reason why ODD models no longer have -6 if you feel like finishing them off with gunfire. Unless something says otherwise, all equipment on a model turns off if it goes null.

>>47928714
Mwhahaha I have trolled you into showing me source on that rule.
Thank you anon! Love you!

>>47928665
Whilst Ghazi are excellent, they're AVA4 max in both vanilla & HB. Lots of Daylami too then?

>>47928680
isn't NCA the only one that can field Orc Harris?

anyone play the gorgos yet since it got buffed?

Does the AP spitfire and pulzar make the difference?

>>47929002
I'm too traumatized to try it again.

>>47928943
SAA can also take Haris as well as Duo ORCs

>>47929002
I havent...but I think what really makes the difference isnt just the AP and Pulsar. It's also the changes to Symbiont Armor and the addition of Symbiomates.

Can we get some Morat Aggression Force art. And try to convince me to play them if you can.

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>>47929125

>>47929177
Biggest tits in the galaxy.

>>47929177
Not him, but you've convinced me.

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>>47929125
Super badasses who don't give a fuck if their Lt bites it.

Also has cheapest link in the game with Gaki plus Oznat.

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>>47929195
>>47929225

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>>47929289
These images are causing pleasing sensations.

>mecha tits and monkey tits can coexist

>>47929091


Wait what changed about the base symbiont armor rule?

>>47929230
>Also has cheapest link in the game with Gaki plus Oznat.

5 Chain Rifle Volunteers say hello.

>>47929350
>>47929230

Also, the Kuang Shi link is a single point point cheaper, though 0.5 SWC higher.

>>47929346
Fire isn't an instant kill, now just drops you to inactive, regardless of number of wounds remaining on the active profile.

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>>47929345
Which is the cutest faction?

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>>47929512

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>>47929512
I'd imagine some of the Haqqislam gals are downright adorable.

>>47929677
Man I'd hit that so hard, she'd have to go dogged.

Girls in armor > Girls with no clothes

prove me right

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>>47929177
>>47929289
>you will never be abducted by a sexy morat and go on missions on dangerous planets.

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>>47929700

>>47929790
the face ruins it

>>47930116
The picture for one in the new guide book is pretty adorable. On top of nice curves from the armor shape.

>>47930138
Screenshot?

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>>47923980
[Harder, Better, Faster starts playing]

>>47923583
>Haqq Hassassin Sniper
or
>Morat Engineering Corps

Are my ideal choices. I highly doubt we'll get to play Morats at all.

>>47923079

>New foxtrot female
>still shit

Atleast the male version is top tier

>>47925921
...Is the gun chained to the steamer trunk in front of her?

I get recoil is a thing, but come on.

>>47931444
Probably a range-owned fun-switch gun; chains are often put on them to stop the customers from raining lead on the farm a few miles over.

>>47931590
That makes sense.

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>>47931437
I prefer the female Hunzakut/Foxtrot/Chasseur.

>>47931913
As do we all, anon. As do we all.

>>47929177
I liked the morat's faces better when they were more beaked aliens with horns and less red monkeys.
That said... Hnff.

>>47923195
We've got the original PzF minuteman that was on par with the rest of the line at the time, but I think most people didn't realise it was female.

Starting out with ALEPH. Trying to minimize Homeric units.

How does this look?

>Deva Lieutenant (Sensor) 24pts
>Deva Hacker 31pts
>Asura (Spitfire) 70pts
>Sophotect 30pts
>Naga (MULTI Sniper Rifle) 34pts
>Naga Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) 32pts
>Myrmidon Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) 31pts
>Dakini Tacbot (HMG) 21pts
>Dakini Tacbot 13pts
>Dakini Tacbot 13pts
300pts Total
SWC 6

As you might have guessed, I like hacking. Digging that GitS vibe.

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So I live in the butt of the world
Can I play through roll20?

>>47932411

Not really. There is a VASSAL module that might be a little better, but it's still not quite the whole Infinity experience. Infinity relies very heavily on the 3D nature of its terrain and table set up. Having it only set on a 2D plane really simplifies everything.

>>47931913
Stifler's mom has still got it.

>>47932124
If you are going hcker heavy you will want a bunch of repeaters.

That Asura wants some smoke to shoot through as well, so I would drop the Myrm hacker to a chain and use the extra points for a pair of 8 point repeaters.

>>47932124
I don't see a Posthuman. Why don't I see a Posthuman?

>>47932795
Hmmm, cool.

>>47932979
I dunno, their rules look sort of... unintuitive?

>>47933143
I can see how Posthuman look odd to new players.

>>47933143
typically in infinity the more difficult to understand the rules, the better the unit.

>>47933193


That or their rules are "yeah that looks pretty alright" and then you see how fucking cheap they are

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Posthumans are incredible.

>>47933481
And in the case of Posthumans, both apply.

>>47928058
I heard we are going to get Chaska MI and HI

>>47933637
While that would be cool, I would prefer more different races.

>>47933143
>I dunno, their rules look sort of... unintuitive?

Here's a simple breakdown of their rules:

You have to take at least 2 proxies, and can take up to 3.

These all count as a single trooper, so only take up one of your 10 slots in your command group and if you choose to make your posthuman your held back model, you hold all of them back.

They are very cheap and ridiculously good, you will not find a 10 point WIP 15 specialist with BS13, mimetism, and NWI anywhere else in the game.

The only real drawback, is you can't activate multiple proxies at once, so if you declare a coordinated order you can only nominate one of them to participate, and in ARO if 2+ proxies see an enemy only one which you nominate as active gets the full normal ARO options, the others can only dodge, change facing, or reset.

All these models combined give you a single order, so long as any of them are still alive, you will have that order, if they all die you still get the order if you have a netrod, if you have no proxies left and no netrods, then the order is lost.

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>>47932432
>Infinity relies very heavily on the 3D nature of its terrain and table set up. Having it only set on a 2D plane really simplifies everything.

>>47934216
IT's part of the charm the game has. Making it 2D would make it basically Warhammer.

As a dude without facebook, and cannot recover his old account, I am in need of some help /Infinity General/

In Denver, CO where's a good place for Infinity? I was told Colorado has a strong Infinity scene.

>>47934216
I started making a simple 3d online version of it, but no one was interested and my interest petered off after a month, because I like playing in real life anyway.

>>47927865
I plan on picking them up to proxy as more Makrep Trackers since we still only have the one from the starter box with the MULTI Sniper Rifle.

>>47934216
Where you from?

>>47927536
It could be improved imo. You've got no spitfire in the Bolt link. If you want a decoy Lt in your Bolts then replace the paramedic, not the spitfire. I find that Peacemakers work better with shotguns, as they're primarily board control units. That Garuda is obvious in the first group, get another unit and switch it over to group 2. You can command token it back when you deploy it.

>>47935384
Kaauri in the Ca scheme would look rad.

>>47935417
I don't think you want your Lt in the bolt link, as you want them alive when you are in lol.

The bolts let you be more aggressive with the lt.

>>47935280
That sounds interesting and sad it went nowhere.

>>47935406
dosn't matter, playing online is my only way

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>>47935438
True. And getting a BSG instead could give you 5 more points to play around with, as well as a better short range ARO. I'd change the list to something like this.

>>47935557
"Butt of the World" was his phrase.

Guessing Ausfag.

>>47935598
Well India is the toilet of the world, so I'm guessing the butt would be above it, so... Pakistan? China? Nepal?

>>47935598
Austrailia has a good scene from what I've heard.

And unless you are the only person around you, you can always introduce new people. I've done it to individuals whove never played wargames and they got hooked.

>>47935598
What if he's some kind of isolated 19th century lighthouse keeper.

>>47935848
Don't they have assistants that can play Pan O?

>>47926502
Pro-tip, just do it. Same situation, bought it, having fun, fucking bitches and getting money (playing wargames with other essentially dead inside people)

>>47936746
Same here.

Pull the trigger, you won't regret it.

>>47936746
>>47936856
Once my next paycheck comes in I'm getting the N3 hardcopy and the MAF starter box. I don't know where Infinity is played nor do I know anyone who plays. But damn it, I am going to play.

>>47934629
why don't you just make a new account?

>>47935280
What features did you get working before stopping?

>>47936953
I don't want to lose my custom url. It's stupid, but I want it back.

Plus, there's no fucking way I am making another FB account. I left for a reason years ago.

>>47937005
I had randomized battlefields using icestorm like terrain, and I had deployment. I had a few ideas about list selection and attributes that would look like a HUD. I didn't work on it much due to full time work programming and studying my masters.

I have it in a repository if you want to keep working on it, but probably not because it's easier starting something so young from someone else's source, it was nodejs, css3, with jquery.

>>47937333
Interesting.

Unfortunately I cannot into programming well or I'd take you up on that.

So now that britain is out of the EU, and spain has to pay its own bills, is our game going to suffer?

just starting to get into infinity, played a demo game and a few games borrowing another players second army, Thinking about PanO, would operation icestorm be a waste of money over getting the starter? Want the dice so I dont come off as an unprepared piece of shit.

>>47934313
negative. making a 2d killhouse/training sim/space-station-floor would be rad as fuck.

>>47937765
The Ice Storm dice suck. The logo cutouts make them weighted to roll a ton of ones.

You can get 20 siders literally anywhere.

>>47937767
sure is murrican in here

>>47937681
Britain is not out of EU.
That was just a referendum, to gauge public opinion on the matter. It has no legislative power.

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There's no mini yet for the nexus operative is there?

>>47938402
>eurocuck detected
David Cameron is stepping down, and a prime ministership is not something lightly left. considering Britain was one of the few nations putting money into the union, what effects will their leaving have on wargames, also considering the loss of value of the pound

>>47938619
We'll see how this plays out.
Pound losing value could be offset by import tax now being in place, at least for other EU nations. I'd rather not pay as much tax on Hasslefree stuff as I had to on Dark Sword.

But Britain is formally part of the EU still. And we have to wait and see how it affects the UK itself; Scotland might want to leave now, Northern Ireland probably won't. Spain is not as bad off as Greece, they'll be fine.

>>47938679
Spain is still in danger of having a communist president, and that will definitely fuck up our beloved wargame

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>>47930490
Best I can do for ya

>>47939946
Neat.

>>47936926
You made a fine choice. No better time to join after all the updates they got.

>>47934629
Have you checked the official event listing? I see stuff in Denver on occasion.

>>47937765
Unless you like Nomads, yes. Spend the money you save on some blisters or another boxed set.

The dice will all be available separately eventually.

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>>47938595
Not yet, no.

I've been using a converted Ko Dali.

>>47936926
Rad. Whereabouts you from?

>>47940519
Best State. Denver CO

>>47937681
The game was made by Galician. When they get into money problems they get into drug traffic or move to the USA.

I have the PanO starter that came with ice storm. Thinking about buying the NCA starter since I like bolts so I'm just checking out the army builder to see what I could make with both the boxes.

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Im proxying a Nisse as a Black Friar, but I don't know what I'm going to do with the left over Father Knight and Sikh Commando.

>>47941187
That's... Technically a list, I suppose. Not a particularly effective one, but a list nevertheless. Bolts are only effective in a link team, so you should get the Bolt box if you plan on using them. Auxilia are also a worthwhile investment if you can deal with the subpar models.

As for the extraneous units, nothing is stopping you from playing both NCA and vanilla PanO.

>>47919807
Infinity General, I come to you with a question: How do I go about playing a group of Templar knights who survived ALEPH's purge and are now hiding out on one of the Nomad ships? What list and models would you recommend me using to help make things feel fluffy?

>>47941187
if you are going Bolts I would definately do a 5 man.

And if you are playing casually the Father Knight could make a good Swiss and Sikh could be a proxy Garuda.

>>47941389
That sounds rad.

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>>47941389
Swast as modified super heavy infantry.
Custodiers as the hacker nerds.
And lots of Bots.

>>47941299
>Bolts are only effective in a link team
does it make sense to have one as a sniper?

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>HSN3 is out
>Securitate still unusable garbage

>>47941499
No. They're only slightly better shots than fusis and their defensive ability is piss easy to get around.

>>47941523
Tunguska isn't getting shit until the next book.

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>>47941499
Not really no. NCA has the Hexa and Black Friar, both of which are much better snipers for a few points more.

Linked however the Bolt sniper gains +3BS and even more importantly, SSl2, which makes it equally good.

I prefer the Bolt ML for an ARO piece though.

anyone proxy blackjacks yet? Are they crippled by their hacking weakness or OP 36 point monsters?

>>47941447
I cant seem to find any Taskmaster miniatures yet. Does it still need a box? If so, what are good proxies for them? Also, I kinda figured I need some reverends.

>>47941421
Thanks. I've always liked the idea of rouge knights that use AI

>>47941744
>cant seem to find any Taskmaster miniatures yet
Nor can the rest of us...

>>47941744
Taskmasters have no models yet.

As an aside, that suggested list was pretty shit imo. GML remote with no good FO support, more than 2 custardiers, no good weapons in the Taskmaster duo, not enough good remotes. There's a whole host of issues with it.

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r8

So thanks to the Brexit, will Ariadna be retconned to not have British troops?

>>47942117
Clipper is meh, PanO doesn't have many good FOs and they take a lot of SWC.

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Rate my list

>>47942222
mothefucker what are you doing

>>47942222
Shitpost/10

>>47942258
>>47942260
But anon, 30 orders.

>>47942201
I didn't realise the US and Russia were EU members.

>>47942117
>no ML in the bolt link
>WP 12 hacker
>2nd group Bulleteer instead of Sierra?

Actually, looks like a pain to fight. You do have 7 points left over, so a Warcor would fit in. I haven't used the Black Friar yet, so I'd be interested in how it does, especially since you're not taking the Albedo/Biometric version.

>>47942404
I don't know what a journalist does, or what Aldbedo/Biometric is.

>>47942272
That's a (fairly) useless 30 orders. True Kurwa is using shit like William Wallace Lt (35 points), 30 Highlander Rifle (6 points a pop for chain rifle + dogged + smoke, and now with regular + impetuous orders thanks to Inspiring Leadership), and then filling up your remaining 85 points with actual models.

That shit's stupid.

>>47942434
Warcors are cheap WIP 13 flash pulses, which is a good ARO tool if you have 3 points left over.

Albedo is White Noise, which prevents MSV troops from drawing LoF through the zone. So the Black Friar is a good companion to your Hexas or Swiss Guard.

Biometric is like MSV, but for Impersonation instead of Camo. Only a few units have these (Black Friar, Bao).

>>47942541
Thanks for clearing that up. The Albedo version sounds much nicer, I just made him a sniper since my Nisse sniper already kind of fits that role and can't run in NCA. I've been sort of wracking my brain for a week now trying to figure out a good list that can support a five man bolt team. The only things I really want in it are the 5 bolts, a hexas sniper, and the Albedo Friar I guess.

>>47941928
Wat.

Cutodiers can FO things through markers, which you have a ton of in the list.

They can also support up to 3 of the remotes, giving them Marksmanship or B2 in ARO.

You have 2 links so you are pretty order efficient.

Finally, its a themed list. You aren't going for ultimate powaa.

As for proxies I've been using Azrail to proxy Taskmasters.

>>47942450
People who take lists like that are just dicking around though. A Fiday will stop them dead

>>47942201
Naw, Scotland leaves UK, joins EU.

That's why they are super Scottish instead of a more balanced UK.

>>47942576
>Nisse sniper already kind of fits that role and can't run in NCA
I mean, having MSV2 is nice but the Friar's still fairly squishy with no defensive mods and the fact that you don't have a doc in your list. That and you do have some direct template weapons to deal with camo. I'd personally just take the Hexas, but that's just me.

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>>47942117
Tweaked it for you.

>>47942222
0/10.

One quality Aro piece and you lose. Period.

>>47942618
Frier should be out hunting camo, not passively waiting to get shot.

Hexa is a fantastic sniper since they don't pay for infiltration like most TO models.

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>>47942637
Nice. I retweaked it to include a sniper. How's this?

>>47942588
Custodiers don't have shit on real FOs. Spotlight is a fucking terrible program no matter who's using it. More often than not it results in orders being pissed away for nothing.

The EVO hacker does supportware really well, so you don't need too much help from the Custodiers. Only one remote generally needs assfire at a time.

Why would you link Custodiers without Cassandra? The advantages aren't great and it bunches them up so some asshole with a flamethrower can ruin your day. That said, the list is fairly order efficient. Remotes are fast.

It's true that it's a themed list, but it could be done better. Needs more robots.

>>47942782
Need an Lt (Which I would recommend not being a Bolt) but looks solid.

>>47942867
Auxilia is my LT, and thanks, I'm very happy with this list.

>>47942991
Snap, missed that. Forgot they could even be lt lol.

Cool, good luck!

>>47942541
Biometerics also help with discovering holoechoes iirc.

>>47923079
Wu Ming look cool. Don't know jack about them, but their sculpts look great, unhelmeted variant notwithstanding. Then again, most HJ heavy armor is pretty.
Uhlan and Tikbalang are incredible. I cannot wait to get my hands on either, though I have no idea how to field the Uhlan, if I'm honest.
Kaauri I don't know what to make of. Sculpts look nice, but their paint job is kinda ehh. I like the shape of their heads.
Achilles still feels too big and the bose is still boring.
The less said about the Foxtrot, the better.

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T-this will be fun, right? Right?

>>47943704
Looks solid. I would put the tiger in g1 so he can be dropped top of one, and 9 and 4 wont immediately inform your opponent you have an extra troop unless he is paying attention to points.

Did you guys see the RPG's rules for purchasing equipment?

Am I the only one that thinks all that shit is needlessly complicated?

>>47943544


The worst thing about the foxtrot is that it's posed in such a way as to making reposing fucking impossible.

Makes me glad I have two of the new foxtrots and two dismounted Mavericks that I use as foxtrots

>>47940640
You still planning your choices, anon?

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>>47944127
>shit is needlessly complicated?
I'm sort of getting that feeling for the game as a whole. Now, I'm usually not one to shy away from a complicated game, if the rules do something special or particularly interesting (for instance, if the rules are designed to properly simulate, say, 16th century naval battles properly). But the whole 2d20 system is a bit unnecessarily convoluted (separating focus from just standard values exceeding a target number) and also, at the same time, not nearly sufficient at all (initiative rules).

Now, I quite like the character gen system, and the base mechanics are similar enough to (the quite good) Mongoose Traveller system (which just released a fairly decent 2nd edition recently), so I'll definitely be doing some conversion of that.

Say I have a list with 5 linkable dudes.

I deploy 4 and keep the 5th in reserve.

I can have them start the game as a link, or would it be declared after the first 4 are deployed, so I have one guy that starts the game solo?

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Now as much as I love infinity I've had my fair share of problems whit the actual game. Starting second seems to put people on a tremendous disadvantage if your opponent is even remotely competent. If you put every model in total cover your opponent gets to grab every objective without any resistance and you also have to spend your entire round just repositioning your troops. If you deploys your troops somewhere where they can deliver good aros they're going to be picked apart little by little until the remaining ones pose little to no threat. There were multiple occasion where an my entire link team broke into pieces because an enemy just peaked slightly around the corner so no one else could see him and just shot holes into my linkmember with a 5 burst from a Spitfire. No matter how much effort you put into your deployment your opponent will most of the time will get the better of you. Apart from deployment, even if you manage to secure some points with relatively good aro pieces your opponent can always just throw smoke, or good forbid Zero-V (Eclipse?) grenades an move unhindered. Thoose just seem, well.. Quite overpowered and annoying in my opinion. I also do not see the point in deploying very high cost point models if they don't possess multiple wounds and are going to die from a few lucky rolls anyway. And by no means I favor kurwa spam because that just isn't any fun but still seems the way to go. And maybe that just seems to be my opinion but I believe to see a slow power creep nesting into this game with some factions getting more and more toys and loosing their drawbacks. Maybe it's just me and I need to git gud but sometimes it's just frustrating how punishing this game is. Like the game is deciding after the first few orders, a few lucky shots, no tactics involved just straight out rampage and blodshed and and of the players is already so badly crippled that he just can't recover from that anymore. So tell me, Infinity general. What am I missing?

>>47945245
Sorry for the bad grammar, I'm posting from my phone. Don't judge me.

>>47945245


You got Tohaa'd didn't you?

>>47945245
git gud

learn to paragraph

tell us what faction you play and what your list looks like

>>47927536
>>47935580
>>47942117
>>47942637
>>47942782
>It's 2016, HSN3 is out, and people STILL don't get that bolts are literal garbage

>>47944750
>random contact request on the street
Too bad I'll be firmly middle-aged by the time it'll be this fucking easy.

At least there's Tinder now.

>>47945490
Bolts are great.

>>47945245
Points: 25

SWC: 1

Reaction: Total

>>47945245
Do you deploy your guys facing backwards or not covering possible blind spots? Unless you're only using shotguns you have a chance to fire back (among other things).

Also do you guys play with Command Tokens?

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>>47945245
Ok. A few things:

Going second is a big advantage in the majority of scenarios, because if you can survive a good chunk of your force to the bottom of 3, you can grab sections, hit buttons and win.

Every model has, at most 11 orders available to it. Your goal is to make them waste as many orders as possible so they cannot

A) Rampage and kill all your troops
B) Accomplish too many of their objectives

To this end, when deploying, make sure your troops are difficult to get to, make sure that when he does get to them, the rest of your force is still safe.

The best Aro weapons are MSR and ML. Not just because of their special ammo, but because they outrange the best active turn weapon, the HMG. Remember, even if you aren't killing anything in ARO, you are slowing him down and making him waste orders.

If he has a bunch of light troops, kill them dead with fast or dropping troops. The more troops he has the more he has to bunch up and the better guided missiles and grenade launchers are.

I have a lot more, but I don't want to write a novel on /tg/. Post on the forum and I will reply.

>>47945245
>second turn disadvantage
Classic newbie problem. You WILL learn to manage it. Infinity is a pretty high lethality game, but a little system master goes a long way. Balance between AROs, depth of deployment, potential counterattacks, and terrain obstruction is something of a skill. List construction comes into it. Cover, camo, smoke, disposable attackers, mines, etc.

>high value figures
Screen them. Or use their camo/smoke/hacking/killer koalas/suppressive fire.
>power creep
Considering the same old figures from the original book still dominate lists, I'd say there's nothing to worry about.

>5 burst spitfire
Pity that that entire link might go down to a single 5 point war band with a chain rifle. And they KNOW that. Make them burn orders to cover their ass, or to kill that one obnoxious figure that refuses to die for one reason or another. Elastic defence, and defence in depth. Both methods are critical to survive in infinity.

>>47945514
It's alright, that blue-haired person's actually a middle aged man as well. Or possibly the entire scene is inside an MMO or something.

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>>47945245
>What am I missing?
1) Getting good at deployment. Now, certainly, some armies suffer worse than others at having good access to AROs, but everyone has something resembling a TR bot for ~25 points and 1 SWC. Will it die? Most certainly yes, but it'll take orders doing so, and those are shots not going towards your other guys.

Beyond that, learn to screen your deployment so that you can force your opponent into certain actions or, at the very least, force him to consider bad options. For instance, having units screen for your ARO pieces that you know will be drawing fire.

2) Be efficient with your choices. Good action economy is not just having more orders. Units that can counter particular strategies AND contribute to your game strategy are useful; expect smoke and be ready with either MSV or direct templates. Expect TAG or heavy armor: have AP, mono, EXP, hacking, etc etc. ready.

3) kurwa spam. Now, it is true that having too low of an order pool can be devastating, but really high number of models (say, more than 16 or 18) don't really tend to do so well either; at that point those really cheap units start to lose steadily against stronger ARO pieces.

>>47945370
>You got Tohaa'd didn't you?
I got Tohaa'd pretty bad.

>>47945440
>git gud
I'm not the best player around town, admitted.
>learn to paragraph
Well. Yeah. Phone. Sorry.
>tell us what faction you play and what your list looks like
QK. I have a pretty standard setup. One or two tough brutalizers, about 3-5 specialists (like Hawwa, Kaplan or even the jannisar doc filling multiple roles) according to scenario and list. One full defensive link team (mostly ghilim+hafza) and a few supportive or tricky units like yuan yuan's, bashi bazouks and so on.

>>47945834
Total Reaction isnt halal.
Well, actually I use them more often than not. They get killed way too early from faraway snipers or smoke screen+msv combo (absolutely haram) but they atleast sack a good amount of orders from my opponent, so, yeah.

>>47946377


Tohaa are fucking dangerous and will have lots of high burst but tend to lack long range weaponry in those teams. If you go second, use your command token to get rid of some of his orders and force him to waste orders on his makauls throwing smoke everywhere. He can't shoot through those clouds either, so he's going to have to keep doing face to face rolls if he wants to blap your guys.

Any sort of sniper ARO or TR bot (preferably both) will slow him down and let you counter attack.


b2 AROs are scary but Tohaa don't have that much staying power in reactive turn, symbiont armor is more for being able to continue on your active turn. Further more, a simple HMG will shit all over a Sakiels B2 viral ARO if you stay at the appropriate range.

Tohaa are mean as fuck to play against the first few times but once you know their tricks, you can exploit their weaknesses

t. Artichoke man

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>>47945901
I have every model having at least two other models in line of sight to them, aro pieces in cover and the others in full cover. Having at least two aro pieces covering a fire line so It harder to separate them. That's pretty much the basics. Do you assume that everyone who has problems in a game with a steep learning curve is an absolute imbecile? Here's your degenerate space gypsie.

>>47945923
>>47945926
>>47946039
>>47946454
Thanks all for the great tipps but I have to get sleep for now and hopefully reply to you then. I appreciate the effort.

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>>47946626


No problem m80, we were all there once. Keep at it and you'll figure it out

>>47946377
light infantry are terrible defensive links. low armour, low bs, and no defensive abilities makes it easy for camo or elite high bs troopers to take them apart

>>47945232
Bumping for clarity, It looks like raw, I don't have to declare link until right before game starts.

>>47946795
They tend not do anything else other than defence though. And a full link is still a +3BS.
Also if your LI gets regular snipers instead of MSR (like say Ghulam), you can fit a bunch of these into the link. 2 snipers + ML in a 5 man link is a pain, even if those are "just" basic LI.

>>47944699
A little.

Asked a handful of threads ago about what I should get.

MAF starter, Witch Soldiers, Vanguard box, doctor worm , and a pack of Hungries are on my list. Have a feeling I'm missing something though.

>>47947368
a link like you described is 100 points and 2 swc begging to get fucked by anything fast and cheap like bikes, cheap ad, and kerail

>>47948089
Well, I play PanO.

Also nothing in this game is unkillable. You could as well be saying how a Cutter is asking to get flanked by Jaguars.

A defensive cheap link with snipers and ML on one side and a TR bot on the other make for a hard table to move on while their own cheap AD or infiltrators go wild.

>>47947633

>MAF Starter
It really is a good place to begin. Soggie is a strong center piece. Oznat can be proxied as a Zerat. Raktorak makes for a great Kurgat (Damn CB for waiting so long to update those sorely wanted models). I'm still waiting on a new Kurgat, Rasyat, and Zerat. All with Boarding Shotguns funny enough.

>Datz
Yeah, those are top of the list for sure. Smoke, Chains, excellent MA. They're hard to trump for their points when compared to Vanguard. Oh and they link.

>Doc Worm
I've done rather fine without the bastard. Kurgat fill his shoes quite well. Doctors and paramedics arennt high priority for MAF unless for scenarios. Things tend to die quickly in Infinity.

>Vanguard Box
I'd recommend that if you for sure can get an Anyat to really fulfill the link.

>Hungries
You can't really go wrong with these. They are nice cannon fodder that can actually mess someone up if they aren't ready for them. Most of the time they are a cheap order generator in a link or speed bumps that you place around your deployment.


My recommendations are:

>REM box
Drones are so crazy good this edition it can't hurt you to have these guys. Slick EVO Hacker or TR HMG. They all do their part.

>Yaogat or Rodoks
Both offer great fire teams. One is more defensive while the other is built for assaulting. That's going to be a tough choice. MSV 2 with some decent ranged options vs. Mimetism, BTS, and Super-Jump.

>Suryat/Soggie/Raicho
Kind of really can only pick one of these buggers to go with. The first being almost your typical vanilla HI. Sogs, being your Heavier Infantry with interesting stats and equipment. The Raicho being a Vanilla TAG with the Morats racial.

I always say go with what you think is cool. Proxy and play before committing. Every one plays a bit different from one another.

>>47935618
>>47935804
>>47935848
Where I live dosn't matter
If there is something btter than roll20 I'm all ears.

>>47947633
Snag some Rodoks, A second Sogarat and Kornak.

>>47951610
They're some lovely models, I admit.

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So which Haris do you guy prefer in CHA?

>>47954207
Depends on if you want something for short range assault or long range support.

>>47954207

The Highlander/Mormaer one. Talk about flexible, durable, and cost effective. Although Wulver's are pretty great.

I wish Flashgitz would make one of these for Infinity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JYsQ8p3wM8

>>47946795
You say this, but I've had my ass handed to me by a link team of fucking Moderators where that lollipop sucking sniper girl plastered all my Yaogat through the smoke my Dāturazi tossed out because Sixth Sense, fuck you.

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>>47955880
>Oopsies! <3

>>47955880
That's some shit luck. Did you use smoke to get within 16 inches? Having that +3 advantage can be a big deal against a link team.

>>47955904
You know, that model would look 3 times cooler if she would shoulder the sniper rifle instead of holding it so awkwardly.

>>47956273
It's not even a sniper rifle, it's a Combi + Pitcher. It's one of those old oversized ones.
I hate this gun so much and considering I'll be using her as a Gecko pilot I wonder if I could find a pistol to replace it.

Which faction has the best sluts

>>47956928
Nomads.

Combined Army. They're genetically augmented to be the most perfect sluts in the galaxy.

>>47956928
Aleph is all about the ass.

>>47941523
You'll get your Tunguska update you impatient ninny
The REAL travesty of hsn3 is very fucking obvious...

>>47945826
Bolts pale in comparison to the real trash of hsn3

>>47955880
what was the yaogat using, because it sounds like you tried to soft ball the link and got fucked because of it.

>>47957924
>>47957896
Shasvastii?

>>47942222
get the fuck outta here with that shit.

you want THE might of PanOceania?

BAM

PanOceania
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

GROUP 1 10
FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
FUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
FUSILIER Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
FUSILIER HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 18)
SQUALO (Armored Cav.) Lieutenant MULTI HMG / AP Heavy Pistol. (2 | 93)
FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
TRAUMA-DOC Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)

GROUP 26
BULLETEER Heavy Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
FUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
FUSILIER HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 18)
FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
BULLETEER Heavy Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
MACHINIST Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)

6 SWC | 299 Points


still has a bunch of useless shit, but is more PanO than that shit. long live the hyperpower!

>>47954207
Wulver.

>>47961053
I would take a sensor model, you are going to have real trouble with camo.

Also, may as well drop to 5 fusils and go NCA, to benefit from a link bonus. You can take Auxilia instead to keep the annoying asshole theme.

Your specialists want servant bots too.

>>47963004
not a serious list mate, just a fluffy PanO horde list, in response to the 30 man travesty up above

tried more or less to make a basic Fusi platoon, drones and useful weapons included

>>47963063
now 100 percent more retarded!
GROUP 1 10
FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
FUSILIER Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
FUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
FUSILIER Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
FUSILIER HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 18)
FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
BULLETEER Heavy Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)

GROUP 210
FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
FUSILIER Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
FUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
FUSILIER Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
FUSILIER HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 18)
FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
BULLETEER Heavy Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)

6 SWC | 276 Points

>>47960155
They got a bit of love. Sheskiin and Aswangs were improved, and both Gwailos and Shrouded got increased AVA. The only thing that is genuinely worse off is the Cadmus, and it's not like anybody was using that thing anyway.

>>47966887
Pretty half assed though. Seed Soldiers, Haiduks and Calibans still need sorting out.

They're in that situation Morats and Bahram used to be in where there's only about 2 ways to build an ITS list which isn't just crippled vanilla. Either you go Gwailos/Sheskin plus some blockers or all in for CH:Camo plus Embryos.

>>47970315
Better than MRRF got.

Human Frogs and alien frogs are for the next book
Chill

>>47970767
circa 2021