Dawn of War 3

>>47758611
Looks like another DoW2

>>47758686
Not a bad thing desu as long as they don't continue with whatever the fuck the last expansion for DoW2 did.

I preferred the vanilla + expansion campaigns because they were more freeform in nature, and the equipment drop system was neat.

DEEP
STRIKES

Also, majestic 24 fps after 0:40.

>>47758744
I was not a big fan of DoW 2 because i love god old fasion base building, but I will probably buy it if its not a buggy piece of shit

>>47758611
Effectively killed most of my hype. Still buying it probably. So much wasted potential.

>>47758744

Agreed famalam. Retributions campaign ended up being kind of shitty overall

Dow2 and CR was great though. I replayed them recently and I'm 99% sure I'm going to run a Quest here as a result.

No one has done a reasonably serious SM quest here in a very long time.

I don't know how I feel about Angelos' new voice.

>>47758977
NOT MY GABE! FUCK THIS SHIT!

>>47759053
It's not a fuck-this-shit complaint, but it's still a little jarring. Not the kind of thing that will make me skip the game, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.

>>47758977
Maybe it's just a stand-in until the game is finished?

>>47759110
Sounds nothing like him.

Old gabe was unique as fuck, this guy sounds like generic shit.

>>47758826
>So much wasted potential
Just because the game has colors doesent mean that they are bad dude

>>47758836
Ghosts of Retribution was run here about a week or two ago.

>>47758686
How, though? You have more than 4 space marines, and there is base building again.

>>47759827
I think anon means his disappointment because it isn't a base building game like the first DoW, because of the colors and this one colors seem darker than the ones from the old images of gameplay

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>>47758611
>That Knight
awesome

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>>47758611
Is that Macha talking to Angelos?

>>47759925
Last I heard it does have base building.

>>47759925
>isn't a base building game like the first DoW
Nigga they literally showed based building on screenshoots and on this gameplay

>>47759956
No, I think I read "Solaria" as her name, and her voice didn't have the distortion Eldar voices have.

>"While the enemies of the Emperor still draw breath, there can be no peace." Chapter Master Angelos
>Chapter Master Angelos
Oh shit nigga SM campaign of Retri confirmed canon.

>>47758611
Jesus please tell me that isn't Gabriel's new voice, where's his sexy as fuck silky one?

Marine ulti being an Imperial Knight means that hoping for playable Tyranid Heirophants is not realistic, I take it?

>>47760016
10 bucks that he is voicing Eliphas and thats why he is not doing gabe

>>47760025
It is, but I would put my money on Hierodules.

>>47760029
Fuck Eliphas nobody likes that nigga. They fucked over the Chapter Master of the Bluhd Rehvuhns for some Alpha Legion, Word Bearer or whatever the fuck he was Chaos faggot.

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>>47758611
It's TT realistic - that whole squad of assault marines dies all at once as soon as they charge

>>47758686
No it doesnt WTF are you on about, did you even play DoW 1 & 2?

What you really mean is it looks like DoW 1 with better graphics.

>>47758611
I am not rating the cartoony physics and voice acting. Hammy is good but bouncy animations and wooden accents is not.

>>47758611
Gabriel sounds like a generic action vidya hero. What happened to Paul Dobson?

>>47759925
Literally pictures of basebuilding in the newest PC Gamer.

but at what cost?
>cover system is just those shitty bubble things the Eldar were hiding in now
>Elite Units are now "pick 3"
>base building exists but it seems a little...odd?
>way more emphasis on activated abilities

>>47760003
Yup.

>>47759982
99% certain that was the Knight pilot

>>47760190
She sounds like Andrastia.

>>47760081
Fuck you, Eliphas is great.

>>47758611
I'm not sure what to think, feel a bit underwhelmed by it. I wanted a streamlined II with the scale of I. This just looks like they cherry picked a few things and then bolted it onto an RTS from the early 2000's? The unit collision detection seems worse than the first game.

>>47760229
Unless he was the one who said SIIIINDRIIIII I have no fucks for that throwaway baddie.

>>47759937
>Deep striking knights
It's almost like the work of a tactical gen.......CREEEED!

>>47758611
What really bothers me is the lighting. It feels like it should come with an epilepsy warning. Not to mention that you can't tell what the fuck is happening in that clusterfuck.

>>47760168
>>Elite Units are now "pick 3"
Only for MP tho

>>47760332
Seems fair, spamming units was cancer during DoW 1.

>>47758686
I goddamn loved DoW2. Not sure why all the complaints against it, the multiplayer was fun as fuck - company of heroes with swords and magic and tanks and tyranids, it was amazing.

>>47760266
You should play Dark Crusade, Eliphas was a cut above the first two Chaos Lord baddies. Even Lord Bale aka SIIIINDRIIIII doesn't compare, or Sindri Myr himself for that matter.

>>47758611
That gameplay looks like utter shit.
Hype status: zero.

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>>47758611
>Gabriel jumping like a fucking frog
>while wearing a terminator armor

Dropped. Fuck you Sega.

>>47760422
Oh that was him, the one who's always getting sodomised by Abaddon.

>>47760190
>female knight pilot
Fuck, here come a new waifu

>>47760766
He never skipped leg day anon.

>>47760809
I dunno, is that some DoW II shit?

>>47760875
Nah Im pretty sure the Iron Hands gifted him new legs after the demon ripped him to pieces.

>>47760859
Deep striking straight into your heart.

>>47758611
Another Starcraft?

Anyway, i'm glad blizzard finally got the 40k license.

>>47758611
>Most powerful unit of the space marine is not a space marine

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>>47760766

CATAPHRACTII ARMOUR ANON

GET IT RIGHT ANON

SAY IT WITH ME

>DITCHED BECAUSE THE ARMOUR MADE MOVEMENT TO RESTRICTIVE

>EVIDENTLY NO ONE TOLD ANGELOS EITHER OF THOSE THINGS

>>47760766
>>47761329
>Terminators, which are super powered armor worn by literal superhumans, can't jump
Guys please.

>>47760464
It looks just like DoW 1, what di you expected ? another moba ?

Imperial Guard when?

That was fucking awesome!

>>47761648
>I don't know shit about terminator armour

It is fucking hilarious to me how people will accept a premise like Space Marines or Psykers and then apply physics to terminator armor.

Fucking autists...

>>47761900
Its purely for the cool and gameplay factor, dont take it seriously you autsist fuck.

>>47761934
its called "internal consistency" fella.
If a setting has rules that differs from ours, cool.
If the people in the setting break the rules set out for them, then that is dumb

>>47761966
>its called "internal consistency" fella.

Its 40k, rule of cool always trumps "internal consistency", always.

>>47761966
>internal consistency
>40k

Dude.

Dude.

No.

>>47760395
Because some people want to be able to play the single-player campaign

>>47761966
>its called "internal consistency" fella.
It's called "Warhammer 40k" son. Try to keep up.

I think it looks great. I don't know why people are bitching about stylized graphics that allow it to be played on a wide slew of machines or the animations. I like what I see.

>>47761329
>CATAPHRACTII
It's tartaros you blind fucking subhuman

>>47761934
>IT'S FANTASY SO EVERYTHING CAN BE RETARDED

This is my least favorite meme of all time.

It's pre-alpha, they're literally just showing all they can show right now. Fuck, there are animations that simply aren't finished yet. (you can see this when the Whirlwinds deepstrike)

And remember, Relic staff does fucking read /tg/. They will very likely adjust Gabriel's hammaslamma animation eventually as well as get his very expensive VA back when it's time. (It's actually more cost effective to get a shoddy temp early on than to have the VA be scheduled both early and late into development)

So there's only going to be three playable races on launch? That's what the description on Steam seems to suggest. Space Marines, Orks, and Eldar.

>>47758611
Is that Inquisitor Hat Gabriel's talking to?

>>47758611
This looks like crap. It's gonna be full of micromanaging special modes and abilities like Red Alert 3.

>>47765187
Everything already is retarded. Where have you been the past quarter century?

>>47760168
As long as Leman Russ aren't "Elite" like they were in Dawn of War Dark Crusade and Soulstorm, I'll live with it.

>>47760766
>>47761648
>>47761900
>>47761963
It's canon that Space Marines can do backflips in Terminator Armor. Terminator Armor has the power in its motive systems to move gracefully and fluidly; just because it looks boxy in shitty tabletop models, neckbeards think it's like walking around in a college sports game mascot suit.

>>47765318
Chaos is post-launch DLC.

>>47765305
I feel like what we saw in the trailer was a vertical slice of some concept campaign level made based on the models they stuck onto photoshopped backgrounds for the "screenshots" in the announcement. It'll be 2019 before this game gets released.

>>47760395
Company of heroes was bad. DoW 2 is disliked because people loved DoW 1 and when a sequel finally came it was a completely different genre.

>>47765410
Company of Heroes was great aside from tank spam. Dawn of War 2 and Company of Heroes 2 are radically different and for some reason CoH2 felt incredibly sucky to play even though I can't pin down why.

>>47758611
That looks kind of bland.

>>47758611

Looks too fast paced and cartoony. are they not bringing back base building like they said they would?

>>47760118
Nigger it looks a lot like DoW 2.

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>>47765113
No it actually is Cataphractii armor.

>>47765187
Its 40k, rule of cool is supreme and everything is already over the top retardation.

>>47760003
Angelos being chapter master has been confirmed since before DoW 2, in the space marine lore book.

>>47761934

>hurr durr there are a bunch of things in here that aren't real
>durp hurp that means everything real goes out the window!

That's a stupid fucking argument and you're a stupid fucking faggot for making it.

>>47765392
>Terminator Armor has the power in its motive systems to move gracefully and fluidly; just because it looks boxy in shitty tabletop models, neckbeards think it's like walking around in a college sports game mascot suit.

>Plates of heavy plasteel further armour the ceramite sections, especially on the front of the suit. This extra armouring provides a level of protection that is far superior to normal Marine armor; not even a Krak missile will penetrate the suit's breastplate.[7] It also contributes to the immense weight of the suit, making the wearer less maneuverable and slower.

I'm not saying Terminators should move like a paraplegic learning to walk but they shouldn't be winning gold medals in gymnastics like Gabe is.

>>47760395
>company of heroes with swords and magic and tanks and tyranids, it was amazing.

You forgot a few things: No base building, smaller scale, more micromanaging, SPESHUL ABILITEEZ!, and having to choose between actual units and single characters who happen to be 100 times stronger than anyone in those units.

>>47758611
It looks really good. The scale looks fun, there's spell casting (specifically activating the flamer in the squad, the jump packs, the missile launcher), and I didn't hear anything about morale. The question for me is about controls and hotkeys, and how the base building will work, if it even exists. If it feels good, I'm super excited.

That being said, the environment/map looks like shit. Bland, no cliffs, just icy wastes. Same in the cinematic trailer we got. There better be diversity. 40k with no good terrain is meh at best.

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>People in this thread are defending hopping terminators, citing C.S. fucking Goto as their source.

>>47761663
Funny, when it looks like a fucking moba, not DoW 1 at all.

>>47766761
So does everything you don't like, I presume.

>>47766961
Nope.
But DoW 3 sure as hell does.
The focus being on heroes and super units, while the rest of the army looks like fucking minions from dota, and certainly acts that way, does not exactly bring me any hope towards this game.

>>47765392
>It's canon that Space Marines can do backflips in Terminator Armor
Maybe in fucking space.

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>>47758611

>>47758611
>gymnastically jumping around
>whilst wearing cataphractii terminator armour
I mean, hype as shit for gameplay, despite the environment looking like ass, but that leaping angelos was retarded as fuck

>>47760395
It was basically Company of Heroes, but not as good.

i hope knights aren't huge part of the game. 40k has already been ruined by scale creep and it would suck if the same happened to dow

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>>47760190
It's the Knight pilot. Gabe and her have a chat after blowing up the Eldar webway gate, and the knight and Gabe are the only elite units on screen.

She's also been named as such in a few different previews.

>>47769747
>female knight pilot

What's next? Female space marines? female necrons?

>>47765911
What's funny is there is no leaping termintors in the Cs goto novel. People idoitically misread that bit.

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>>47769768
Embrace the future, anon.

>>47769768

Pretty sure many of the Necrons are female. There's no way of telling, as they all have the exact same metal bodies.

>>47769768
A knight isn't a bad choice for your mandatory minimum diversity. You own body isn't that important when you're running a giant war machine. Sure you can have female guard, like Lt. Mirra from space marine, but in my bit of 40k readings it sounds like mixed gender regiments are a rare thing and the female regiments are often assigned as rear echelon units. Inquisition also works but if you want frontline combat female character a knight isn't a bad choice.

>>47769798
Knights are a boys club.

Name one canon female pilot.

you can't.

>>47769816
Stop trying so hard to troll.

>>47769783
I built some custom lychguard with female bits from warex. I figured an Amazonian Guard would be cool, plus they have hilarious tits.

>>47769816

I can name three.

Tellurus
Aedalflae Redwroth
Baroda

>>47758611
So we're back to Massive Combat and not DOW2 RPG tier?

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>>47769768
There is at least one female necron overlord... i mean they are spooky scary skelebots though so unless gw gives them skeletits for no reason we will never be able to tell beyond their names

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>>47769847
>Skelingtits
Oh shit nigger, whay you doing?

>>47758791
Its Relic game, bugs are part of the fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObBh9c8FP8Y

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it's the hammer that gives gabe the momentum like jayce

>>47769903
Two named phaerakhs, 1 female named cryptek, 1 female named lychguard, and 1 female named triarch praetorian.

Considering that Necrons instantly recognized the gender/sex of these characters the moment they saw them, it means that necro-tits are canon.

imo it's a good thing the pilot is female rather than some rank and file mary sue who gives orders to commanders because muh stronk

>>47770031
Maybe they just had different coloured/shaped LEDs.

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To me it seems that they combined elements of both 1 and 2, but incorporated their worst aspects into it
>basebuilding is in, but it seems even more pointless than in 1
>the elite units seem to be gamechangers, so you retreating them will be always better than risking death
>non-hero units appear to have very little customization and adaptability, require mass numbers to achieve something

To me it seems they took the merry go round of retreating from 2, the horrible massive blob engagements of bigger games in 1 and made them something that will always happen, not just under special circumstances.

Then there is the completely meh artstyle and the weeb shit animations of hero units. And I'd personally much more prefer if the Marines got some badass tank, like the Land Raider Terminus Ultra, than Knights.

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>>47758745
>MULTIPLE
>SIMULTANEOUS
>DEVASTATING

>>47760029
>voicing Eliphas
The same way he didn't in both of the character's post-DC appearances?

>>47760266
Hey, Eliphas was anything but throwaway. In Dark Crusade his master killed him for being defeated by the Blood Ravens and failing to atone for his previous (Heresy-era) failure, but Relic brought him back for Chaos Rising. Where he was also defeated by the Blood Ravens, then brought back once more. And Blood Ravens winning Retribution means he was defeated and killed by them yet again, in that campaign's tutorial mission, but I'm sure he'll be back to cause even more mischief for the finest slaves of the dead Emperor in no time.

Wow the actions look so cartoony, vaguely disappoint

>>47770038

Mind you, a Knight Pilot is quite likely to do whatever the fuck they want. They are allied with the marines, not a servant of them.

Rather hope the knight and it's pilot are an actual part of the campaign and customizable rather than something that mostly just shows up when you need an endgame unit.

Jumping in cataphractii armor. Not cool

>>47759252
Ahahahaha

>>47769778
fan art is whatever but the faggot making it then used it to try and push "muh femalemarines"

>>47770352
And what's wrong with that, anon?

Was hoping they'd continue with the smaller, more focused tactical gameplay of 2. Instead it looks like we're back to the old snorefest of having two armies standing stock still and shining flashlights at each other for a solid minute.

Look, if people here want a large-scale 40k RTS then I get that, but DoW has never been the game to do that well. Me, I loved 2 since it cut down on the stuff that 1 was shit at anyway and instead focused on its strengths. It always seemed to me that 1 survived on the back of brand and memes, because in terms of actual gameplay it's kinda shit.

>>47770614
let's not jump into conclusion , maybe the VA and the stories will make it for the games

>>47770628
>let's not jump into conclusion
Why not, gabe certainly is

>>47770660
nice one

>>47770182
>Hey, Eliphas was anything but throwaway. In Dark Crusade his master killed him for being defeated by the Blood Ravens and failing to atone for his previous (Heresy-era) failure, but Relic brought him back for Chaos Rising. Where he was also defeated by the Blood Ravens, then brought back once more. And Blood Ravens winning Retribution means he was defeated and killed by them yet again, in that campaign's tutorial mission, but I'm sure he'll be back to cause even more mischief for the finest slaves of the dead Emperor in no time.

You do know that Eliphas is a big joke to old legion dudes?

The Inheritor was a nickname Lorgar gave him mockingly because he didn't earn his rank but inherited from the previous guy.

>>47770614
I'm of mixed opinions. I adored 2 for its story and characters, which paired well with its smaller scale but more individually powerful units. That said, on any difficulty above normal it was a slog and bullet sponge bosses are always a fucking chore. And when Retribution came out, which largely had the same story for every faction, it was sorely lacking.

Dawn of War 1 shined when it came to Dark Crusade and the big campaign it gave you. Bespoke stronghold missions, solid voice work and a replayable structure. Soulstorm was also decent in this regard, if not as excellent.

As long as 3 has strong (and interesting) characterisation I'll be onboard with it. Though that terminator walk looks goofy as fuck.

>>47765462
So, you mean it has better graphics? How awful.

>>47770207

Calling it, she is gonna fall to chaos like everyone else that Gabriel has ever care about.

>>47770799
Narp, she's doing to face off with whatever other knight sized threat the SECRET ENEMY fields.

Hopefully she'll be able to swap out one of those gattling cannons for a chainsword at some point.

>>47760190
>>47760859
[Eva intensifies.]

>>47770799
Gabriel Angelos is literally worse than Yoko Littner. Don't ever be his friend or you're fucked.

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>>47758611
While the graphics, jumping terminators, and voice work is a bit concerning, I'm at least glad to see the game hasn't drifted too far from DoW II's style. I greatly prefer having small squads with abilities. It makes the game more tactical and more engaging when every unit matters.

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>>47770799
>>47770867
At least the two fellow captains he had ties to remained loyal, even if they're both dead. Well, one poetic-dead and the other actual-dead. Then there's Jonah... who is actual-dead as well.

But now he has Captain Diomedes.

>>47765410
>coh1 was bad
starcraft player please.
>>47765433
coh2 is objectively better though

>>47758611
>That Knight Titan
S-sempai!~

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>>47771019
>retreat the hero units each time their health reaches 30%
>their abilities seem mostly to be AoE so it's just about spamming them at the largest group of enemies
>all other units stand around and just shoot at other units and are completely expendable
>only do stuff if they are amassed in huge numbers, but still nowhere near the hero units
>no in depth customization (it appears you either have a squad equipped with only bolters or only plasma guns)
>abilities also appear only to be small and directed cones of AoE
>supposedly no builder units, defense turrets or listening posts
>cover system is just a circular force shield
Unless this 2 gameplay reveals only showcase like 10% of the gameplay, then I don't see how this is supposed to be more tactical and engaging. As I've said, they made a MOBA from all the shit parts of 1 and 2

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>>47758611
>Terminator doing backflips like a fucking Banshee

>>47758611
>gameplay footage
>pre-alpha shit that (considering that not all of this is pre-rendered/manipulated shit because plenty of it looks like that) wont even resemble what you see here.

Why do people care about this shit? What you are looking at now is not going to be the same thing you'll be playing a year-ish from now. Even if that weren't true and this is actually what the game will be, then its just

>giant deathblobs stand there and shoot at eachother until one is totally dead or retreating

And that's fucking boring.

>>47770614
1 is amazing with the FoK mod. Vanilla wise, its hilariously unbalanced and plays like shit. You should see how utterly broken the Necron are in vanilla. I'd have to afk for the first ten minutes of a match to have any chance of losing.

>>47772631
God, DOW 1 was so shit without mods. Necrons and Eldar were so fucking annoying to deal with, especially their strongholds.

Ultimate Apocalypse represent.

>>47773422
m8 the strongholds were fucking easy, especially compared to heavily fortified areas were you would just get gang-banged if you didn't rushed the ennemy bases in the firsts minutes.

>>47770031
>>47770069
Or, like humans, male and female necrons have slightly different shaped skeletons.

>>47770799
He's friends with that Inquisitor from Retribution and she's still alive last we saw her.

>>47770031
Pretty certain all the Necrons above the rank of Immortal all know almost if not all of the people in their social class other because of the nature of aristocratic society.

>>47767001
They literally said that you can control other units dude, no its not a moba

>>47769778
I can't take Jasmine seriously after Princess Trainer

>>47772210
>>all other units stand around and just shoot at other units and are completely expendable
Just like in every other RTS in existence ?

>>47775278
I didn't say that it was a moba.
I said that it looks like one way too much.
Heros and super units taking all the focus, with the rest of your army just being backdrops to those TOTALLY AWESOME mega units that do all the work.

>>47758791
>I was not a big fan of DoW 2 because i love god old fasion base building
They said it will have dow1 type base building.

>>47775314
>what is Company of Heroes?
>or even Dawn of War II?

I swear, Dawn of War 1 fags have the worst opinions on everything.

>>47760118
wow dode why so mad? I was only saying what i though it looks like DoW2 from a playstyle perspective . I loved DoW2 and Chaos Rising.

>>47769847
http://wargameexclusive.com/product-category/necrocyborgs/

yep.

>>47776215
I'm honestly not sure how I should feel about that.

>>47765449
https://youtu.be/PTD9sNMyNp8?t=287
skip to about 4:30

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I'm honestly not at all impressed, and I've been waiting for DoW III for a long, long time.

It looks like it's been assembled from the worst parts of DoW and DoW II in a futile attempt to please both crowds, leaving a horribly janky mess where Space Marines die by the hundreds in a single match but the commander MOBA-hero's his way through hordes of enemies at the same time.

The return of DoW 1-style base building is also very disappointing. Relic could easily have introduced a system where each faction builds more or less structures in line with their lore, but instead we're getting the ridiculous 'Space Marine Camp Bastion Simulator' experience again.

The graphics also look very strange and not in a good way thanks to all those bright, flat colours with little in the way of actual detailing. Pre-alpha screenshots from DoW II (which came out some 7 years ago now) look much better than this game despite inferior graphics quality thanks to the vastly superior art-style that actually tried to make units and environments properly detailed as if they were real objects.

Honestly, all Relic had to do to make the perfect Dawn of War was create 'Company of Warhammer 40,000: Bigger Armies' and that's it. Dawn of War, as good as it was and still is, is an old game now and it shows. The newer Company of Heroes games are straight upgrades from Dawn of War that massively improve upon basically all aspects of the RTS gameplay that featured in Dawn of War. To completely disregard the huge raft of massive improvements that Relic have come up with over the years in favour of returning to the barebones 'stand in the open and out-DPS the other guys' gameplay is simply absurd.

>>47765392
>It's canon that Space Marines can do backflips in Terminator Armor.

No it isn't you massive dipshit. Not only did that not even happen in the CS Goto novel (it was the eldar the termie was fighting) that novel isn't even canon as its bullshit was thoroughly retconned.

You guys are just witnessing the Blood Ravens unique gifted Jump Pack Terminator suit with inbuilt jump jets, making him a jump infantry unit.

>>47778687
I agree with everything you said m8.
It is a damn shame that DoW 3 will most likely be shit.

>>47759053
that is a blood raven gene seed defection that gives them a new voice every once in a few years (see davian thule in dawn of war 2)

>>47769894
>slightly brown
>strong independent female character

WE

>>47758611
is that ray of beam coming from some ravens rifle in the trailer suppose to be melta gun?

>>47778687
Nigga it's pre alpha.

>>47784108
>it's pre alpha
It wont change much

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>>47784108

>>47783936

Plasma gun, I'm thinking.

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>>47783888
Or Gabriel Angelos in Dawn of War 2 for that matter.

>>47784351

I liked Gaben's DOW2 voice.

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>>47784108

It's the barebones and we have a problem with the barebones. "it's pre alpha" means they'll just add onto what they have now and we have a load of shit right now.

Unless they start over again they'll release this piece of shit which will alienate most of their current fanbase in the hope they can draw in the retards they're aiming the game at.

A lot of people defend the artstyle by saying 40k was always supposed to be funny and a self parody. That was 20 years ago. The 40k we all know and love is serious, gritty and grimdark.

They have no excuss for dumbing down gameplay either apart from cutting corners and being lazy.

>>47769894
>delicious brown knight waifu

Don't know why I never thought of having females pilot knights, and I'm the kind of faggot who constantly waifus everything.

I think the 40k testosterone is getting to me.

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>>47784761
Delicious brown 40k testosterone you say?

>reminder that warhams is a tale of MEN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1AkcqsAQsY

>>47765433
The graphics, Coh had way better graphics ss it didn't try as hard as Coh 2 so looked better. The partial effects and zoom were a big part of this.

Coh2 just looked bad compared even though they tried making it look better; Coh just had a nice classic feel and look.

>>47765463
it's artificer tartaros terminator: GW have writed it on the warhammer app on the news about dow 3 trailer.

>>47778687
You get it. I would play my hands off, if we had company of 40k.

>>47765433
I hated Company of Heroes.

>park tank near back of map for 2 seconds while I micro an attack
>AI snipes it all the way across the entire map in about 2 shots with a tank killer
>every time

>>47786178
>AI snipes it all the way across the entire map in about 2 shots with a tank killer
CoH will punish your micro ability in every way possible, but there is not a map-range tank hunter in the game

>>47786178
You're supposed to bring infantry to screen your tanks and a mortar team or two to punish any AT guns or machine guns that try to engage. It very heavily encourages a combined-arms approach to your armies.

>>47786339
It still did some pretty retarded stuff though.

>57mm M AT gun for the US absolutely shreds tanks from extreme range
>OQF 6-pounder gun (the exact same weapon) on the Churchill tanks is a wet noodle with very poor penetration, low damage and short range

Not even mods fix it; nobody seems to realise that they're the same weapon.

>>47787352
>>47786339

You know, on second thought, I'm retarded and I was actually thinking of Men of War, another game I hated.

>>47784351
nah, gabe's voice changes back n forth. In dow 2 he sounded different but then, in chaos rising and retribution, he sounds just like he was in the 1st game.

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>>47784314
NOH

plasma gun were shown in the trailer as well, but this here is quite different.

>no nids
>no necrons
>no dark eldar
>no sisters of battle

If they don't fix these 4 critical flaws I'm not paying.

>>47786157

Pretty silly that the chapter master of what was previously a chapter in full civil war for ten years running gets access to a slam dunking artificer terminator suit that nobody else gets. Hell the armor makes him as mobile as a primarch.

>>47790072

They're clearly melta guns.

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>>47772333
it's accurate to the source material

>>47778687
>The newer Company of Heroes games are straight upgrades from Dawn of War
Are you implying Company of heroes 2 was good ?

>>47778687
Holy shit the detail on that model makes me ROCK HARD

>>47790210
If motherfucking Minotaurs can get that shit, so can Gabe.

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Why do we keep getting shitty RTS's and half assed tactics games? We need Men of War for 40k or Blitzkireg.

>>47758611
Looks like Diablo 3.

>>47792065
>Blitzkireg
I vaguely remember that game, the graphics were nice, but the combat scenarios were nowhere near historical accuracy. Victory is most missions assumed 90% loses on your side which is the kind of victory "Pyrrhic" doesn't even begin to describe.
But yeah, it would totally work for Imperial Guard.

>>47758611
The gameplay looks... meeeeeeh. I think I'll just watch the reveal trailer again, that shit makes me diamonds.

>>47758611
Motherfucking deep striking imperial knight 10/10

>>47790225
And yet they fire continous stream, unlike the already established Relic meltaguns

>>47792141
>assumed 90% loses
Jesus how bad were you at the game?

>>47792141
...Anon I think you just sucked. I only lost around 70% on the hardest missions when playing normal. Barely any of my tanks ever died thanks to me using infantry as spotters and meat shields.

>>47792216
>And yet they fire continous stream
Just like they were in DC/SS?

Is it weird that thing thing I've found most interesting about this is that they have a loyalist knight with two avenger gatling cannons? Right now only renegade knights can do that in the tabletop game (and that kit only just came out). Makes me think they'll have it as a loyalist option soon.

>>47770129
i ahve pretty much felt the same, but this is single player mode, it isn't really an indicator of the actual game. Remember having 10 heores in dark crusade? or litterally slaughterong armies with 4 dudes in dow2? I say if this is in any way similar to multiplayer we are fucked, but it's pretty soon to start crying.

desu people overestimate DoW 1 , especially its campaign which was utter shit, boring, not tactical since you didn'teven make an actual battle, you just had these retarded boring scenarios with even more retarded AI. Multiplayer was pretty nice, but also the second had a pretty decent multi, i would dare say better multi, but it was shredded into shit by last stand stealing all players and the fact that playing more actually made your units stronger. What kind of retardation was that?(yeah campaing of the second was shit too, but who cares really?) Also the way leaders were handled didn't really work out for me, it felt like a bad CoH

So, actual basebuilding and skirmish.

http://www.ign.com/videos/2016/06/15/warhammer-40k-dawn-of-war-iii-gameplay-demo-ign-live-e3-2016

>>47794273
Also, your new waifu is the female Knight pilot of that blue gatling knight.

>>47794273
>Yellow lascannons firing continuous beams
That's weird.

>>47794273
This is just making me realize it's not Relic making DoW 3. There's no real environmental cover, the battles are basically swarm the enemy like in all CA games, and the pre-Alpha AI is crap.

>>47794273

Why does every unit runs and attacks so fast? Even Dreadnoughts are like big babbies running around fisting ground and throwing a temper tantrum.

>>47794449
I feel like the gameplay footage is sped up a little, or the settings are running faster than the norm for the animations.

>>47794273
The basebuilding sounds weird. What resources are they going to have?

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>>47790682
Some people actually like that garbage.

>>47761085

Underrated

>>47794526
Because competitive.

>>47769747
>Female Knight Pilot
>Not encrusted with technology
This is tech-heresy.

>>47758611
more base building
less special units please

Looks good so far, will probably buy

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>>47760766
he's also pretty fast and nimble in it too

>>47794651
I want to be angry at this but it looks too much like a heavy metal album cover

>>47794651
>everyone whining about Tartaros armor being able to do huge leaps
>nobody mentions he LETS GO OF THE FUCKING HAMMER MID LEAP AND IT JUST FOLLOWS HIM

>>47794688
>>47794651
I just realized that I cropped the image in such a way that that one terminator on the left is looking at awe at Gabe
>Teach me to fly as you do

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Solaria has that trannie SJW half-shaved haircut too.

>>47770716
>The Inheritor was a nickname Lorgar gave him mockingly because he didn't earn his rank but inherited from the previous guy.
Was this mentioned in the games or was it first brought up in the Horus Heresy story that was released long after the fact to attempt to explain his origins?

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>>47794688

>>47769798

It is canon that Knight Houses are extremely conservative within an already extremely conservative universe. Not only that, but remnants of the minds of past pilots linger on within the warmachine. Not only is allowing a woman to be a knight is forsaking her to gender dysmorphia, it is forsaking every following generation of Knight who use that machine to gender dysmorphia. In a society with extremely rigid gender roles and feudal, dynastic politics in which is its the Knights duty to continue their bloodline.

Face it. Allowing a woman to pilot it will literally taint the machine forever. Unless it has only ever been piloted by women. I suppose that's a reasonable workaround.

>>47794921
>Amazonian knight world

>>47790072
I hope they don't decide to keep Lascannons this way. I know the dev said there's a cool mechanic where the Lascannons would do more damage if they focus on the same target but DoW1/2 had some nice Lascannon sounds. It would be weird to see a Predator just shoot out piss beams to kill Fire Prisms.

>>47794921
While the majority of knight houses are men, there are all female and gender neutral ones.

There are all female guard regiments, and probably all female forge worlds.

Female knights are not the same as female space marines.

>>47796321

LCs should be red and only shoot for 1-2 seconds.

>>47794921
It could be from a world where they fucked up so badly that the Machine-God struck down their Knights with a curse, and all men who attempt to use them die horrible deaths from bio-mechanical impulse feedback.

>>47758686
We wish it did

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>>47794921

This is a Canon Female Knight. Checkmate.

>>47797702
>Canon
>A crazy Chaos-tainted knight
Yeah sure, exactly the same.

>>47797724

>One of the few to spurn Horus' attempts to dominate their House
>Chaos-tainted

Yeah, sure.

>>47797702

Doesn't say anywhere on there that she's female. Is it discussed elsewhere in the rulebook?

>>47797846

Does the word 'Chieftess' not mean female to you?

>>47797909
No, it doesn't.

>>47797763
They were already tainted by Chaos. It's like saying the Isstvaan III-ites weren't tainted by Chaos before the Heresy.

>>47797957
how does chieftess not mean a female chief, if it was male why would not use chieften.. ffs man

>>47798087
Chieftess is a dimunitive form of Chieftain, like Marquess.

>>47794921
>It is canon that Knight Houses are extremely conservative within an already extremely conservative universe.
It's actually fanon from within your own head.

Here in the real world, there's nothing to support that

>>47798100
Learn English before coming here.

>>47794273
Looks like utter shit in comparison to DoW 2.

>>47799365
Literally an English term.

>>47770799
I doubt it. She represent the end game unit and her turning over to chaos meant you have to fight the last battle without your strongest unit.

unless they get gifted another knight.

Oh trust me the Blood Ravens can easily be "gifted" another Knight.

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>>47790012
That was what I meant. In the first DoW2 campaign Brian Dobson played him, with the exact same voice as the multiplayer Force Commander. There's the real reason the campaign FC was mute.

Then Paul Dobson returned to the series and reprised the role in Chaos Rising. At the same time, Relic resurrected another character he had originally played only to assign the part to Steve Blum (and apparently, on top of getting new voices after Dark Crusade, Eliphas and Thule somehow swapped accents as well).

Finally in Retribution all the existing unit voices were re-recorded for legal reasons or something, but while Paul remained Gabe's cutscene VA, his gameplay lines were still (re)done by Brian, so in the tutorial level he kept switching between his two different voices. What makes it really silly is that this was the only place in the game where the Brian Dobson Force Commander/Gabriel Angelos voice set was even used, as the actual Force Commander was now a different character with a different VA - and even completely rewritten lines, no doubt to better reflect Diomedes's distinctive mentality and outlook.

>>47790292

No it isn't. That didn't even happen in Goto material. Stop getting your facts from 1d4chan.

>>47794402
>There's no real environmental cover, the battles are basically swarm the enemy like in all CA games

Have you played the original Dawn of War, anon? Because that's exactly how it played, and DoW 1 fags bitched and moaned about Dawn of War II non-stop for seven years straight so now we're getting the perfect, unmatchable gameplay of the originals again.

>>47794651

Yeah that's not how Terminator Armor works, whatever happened to "Terminator Armor slows you down so much you can't pursue after winning a melee, and if you upgrade to Cataphractii you can't even sprint or fire overwatch"?

>>47802321
Warcraft 3 hero units happened, and the new dev not caring about accuracy.
You might have also noticed continuous fire lascannons, a plasma gun for every marine, and Eldar having Protoss shields.

>>47802446

>a plasma gun for every marine

You can actually do this on the tabletop if you're Black Legion

>>47802491
Only with Chosen, though, innit.

>>47796321
I'd love the fx to be similar to BFGA lances.
A half second buildup of energy around the barrel and ZZZAP MOTHAFUCKA.

>>47794795
>was it first brought up in the Horus Heresy story

In the short story. It's called "The Inheritor" and it takes place on Kronus.

>>47802446
the eldar had something similar in dow2 though. Those forcefields that they could deploy

>>47802753
One one unit, and it was a static cover shield their shitty infantry could hide behind. In this they have literal Protoss shields, a second health bar.

>>47794402
>This is just making me realize it's not Relic making DoW 3. There's no real environmental cover, the battles are basically swarm the enemy like in all CA games

So like Dawn of War.

Anon, there has been a very vocal faction denouncing everything made after DoW because they wanted a rehash of that game.
This is their doing.

>>47802778
its a simplified version of that.
yes its shit and I liked the combat of dow2.
>>47794402
>pre-Alpha AI is crap
based on what?

And TW games are more than swarming units together.
>>47790682
it was a straight upgrade from CoH1 though.
>inb4 DLC commanders
git gud

>>47760766
EVERY DAY IS A LEG DAY
YOU BETTER REMEMBER THIS SCOUT

>>47794921
But you can have all female houses

/r9k/ get out

Dawn of war is /v/

>>47803164

>being this new

It's not Gabe doing those crazy maneuvers in Terminator armor. It's the hammer he wields.

It's like Thor spinning his hammer, throwing it and not letting go to fly around.

>>47760235
>The unit collision detection seems worse than the first game.
It's pre-alpha footage.

>>47760119
Why do you even play 40k games then?

>baaaaaaawkseeeees

>>47801809
do you think hes in voicing the DoW force commander?
it be cool if mid-late in the campaing after geting you shit kicked in, the FC comes with the penitent fleet

but thats just me, dreaming nice games

>>47803228
Hmm?

>>47775289
I've never taken her more seriously. She's right up there with the canker sisters for wank material

>>47769778
>dat Ariel
SLAUGHTER YOUR WOOOOORLD

>>47797449
But i though you people hated mobas

>>47799425
Nah, it cant be shittier than a strategy game that had literally no strategy in it

>>47769768
There's nothing that says Knight nobles can't be female.

Besides, I'm glad. Sweaty dudes doing sweaty dude things all the time gets old.

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>>47770379
>>/out/

>>47765911
The End is near.

>>47806735
It's an underrated series

That looks fairly awful. Then again I said the same thing about the pre-alpha of BFG:A which worked out to be my favourite game in a long time.

>>47803688
Because I like hammy, space opera kitchen sink fun? I mean I practically state that in the post.

Looked all right to me, Knight looks pretty cool. Not really sure what so many people are complaining about, though I do get some like Angelos' acrobatics.

I also quite like that the Knight pilot is female and think it's nice to see. It's a little old that Eldar and Dark Eldar are for the most part the only races GW feel comfortable writing females for, maybe branching out into the Tau.

>>47758977

I thought he sounded different. Don't think I like it as much at the moment.

>>47790210

I actually think quite a few Chapters have access to Tartaros armor. Ultimately it follows the logic that a lot of stuff in 40k does, it may be constrained but if it looks cool it's going to show up anyway.

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>>47765463

It's Tartaros. The web exclusive FW Tartaros Praetor with Power Glaive available on June 25 (not pictured here) shows the same Cataphractii style pauldron and bling, but it's on a Tartaros suit.

>>47783898
WUZ

>>47810109

KNIGHTS

>>47758686
Really, what part gave you that impression? The many shots of large unmoving formations of dudes shooting at each other?

This looks like DoW 1 to me with slightly more intense unit control. Which I'm fine with. I enjoyed 2 a lot, but that style of play may be great for some elite SM squads but would be damned impossible to do on a large war setting.

>>47758611
I really hate to say this, but I'm actually not liking the direction they are taking this to. At first I was willing to give the benefit of the doubt, after-all this is supposedly pre-alpha footage and a long ways off from the release date.

However, after watching and reading a few interviews they've been giving out at E3, I'm really thinking they are going in a pretty awful direction. I'm not the type to scream "MOBA!" just because there are some abilities and such, but they have explicitly stated that they are taking a great deal of inspiration from that genre.

Which makes me actually question if the change in art-style was because of the larger scale like they claim, or because they actually want to emulate the art-style of League or such to appeal to that audience. After-all I'm pretty sure many modern systems can handle the scale of DoW I battles with more graphical fidelity.

I'm really hoping this is just me worrying too much, but honestly I can't help it considering this was such a divergence from my image of a DoW sequel.

>>47811425

You're not the only one anon, a lot of people are pissed/worry at the direction it's looking at.

We can just hope Relic takes this onboard and changes their game, I have a feeling this wasn't Relic's idea though since they should know better. I reakon the guys on top might have pushed this style of game to drag in retards from the SC2/Moba/w/e crowd for more profit.

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>>47769747
>female pilot

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>>47770379
>And what's wrong with that, anon?

Everything.

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>>47776215
>skeletits
>nappy headed hair
>clown nose

kek'd

>>47796354
while I understand your sentiment, doesn't an all female planet sound a little off to you?

>>47793158
>and the fact that playing more actually made your units stronger
I'm pretty sure the ranking system only gave your units more bling, not actual stats.

>>47772333
He obviously aquired the Banshee's grace as a gift for his chapter.

>>47815983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFs4_8sJTT0&t=5m21s

>>47798100
But Marquess refers to the female, where Marquis is the male. Chieftess would imply female chief, just like anything with -ess as a suffix

>>47765392
This is an obvious bait, yet I must reply, for the great justice.

>Terminator Armor has the power in its motive systems to move gracefully and fluidly;

It is heavy as shit. Marine inside trades mobility for tankiness. Best proof of how bulky terminators are is space hulk tabletop. Try navigating a group of marines in a T corridor, gotta feel that "gracefully and fluidly" for yourself anon.

>>47794725
Glad Im not the only one who is disturbed greatly by it

>>47790072
It looks as if they are washing it with orange juice. Or pulling it with yellow strings.

>>47796321
I really hope he just fucked up and said lascannon instead of melta gun.

I just wish they do some details properly, or that the comunitty fix the game. Right now it looks like starcraft 2 custom map iin almost every aspect, and its not that I dislike st2 as a game or the graphics, but they really dont fit the gritiness and hammy retardation that is 40k. How will I look at my gory battlefield full of dead bodies if the blood looks like glitter? I want the sense that something bad is happenning, not that I am playing a competitive rts with cockblaster135 calling me a faggot in chat because I didnt gave gg five minutes ago and made him waste time playing with me when he could be getting his platinun rank.

>>47758611
Gameplay looks ok, but this map fucking kills me. It looks like some goddamn moba. Lava pools over bland cliffs of ice? Seriously?! Where are the glorious 40k cities, humble desert settlements and simple wilderness we know from previous DoW1 and 2?

>>47765462
you're either fucking retarded or blind.

>>47811425
Totally agree withj this, some people seem not to mind but then again there is the huge divide between the DoW 1 and DoW 2 playerbase.

Even without the flamewar erupting between the two there are a reasonable number of people whom are at the least off-put or down right horrified at the direction the game is taken, >>47814764 sums it up quite nicely.

Expectations are a bitch though, certainly after SEGA release a Warhammer: Total War and announces elements of 1 & 2 being combined (which led me falsely so to believe it was going in the total war direction). Some people seem to be liking the new style or Downright ignoring this does in no way whats however looks like its predecessors.

>>47820262
Nigga, they ain't gonna waste time and resources on fancy terrain for a 30-second pre-alpha interview video clip.

In a perfect world, sure, but it's not unusual for them to cut that particular corner in this situation, especially if their game engine isn't particularly cutting-edge.

>>47765462
are u blind? or just autistic

>>47816196

Marquess is male you idiot

>>47816196
>But Marquess refers to the female, where Marquis is the male.
No it doesn't. Marquess is just the English spelling and Marquis the French.
The female version is Marchioness and Marquise respectively.
source: 60 seconds using google
This does not change the fact that your right about the word Chieftess though.
source: another 60 seconds in google
so congrats on only being 50% retarded.

Not buying it.

>boring anti-hype OST
>terrible voice actor
>no blood, barely any corpses in the ground instead of the graveyard stockpile you had in DoW1
>the commanders seem to be league of legend'd
>pretty sure it lagged or slowed down at some point
And the most important flaw of all.
>Warcraft graphics
Game Status: Absolutely Dropped.

>>47825629
>boring anti-hype OST

We haven't heard anything of the OST yet.
The only piece of music was commissioned for the trailer.

>no blood
There are giblets and gold all around, anon.
Look at the bloody mess Dreadnoughts create at around 1 minute into this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7JNTfrK3Yk

>the commanders seem to be league of legend'd
They are nothing like LoL or DotA.
They don't level up, they are customisable.
They drop in and already have all their abilities and once they die, they are dead for good (no respawn).

>>>/v/

>>47803077

That's literally the last line of what you are responding to.

Its not about women shouldn't be allowed to be Knights because girls have cooties. Its about how the Knight Titan itself needs to be gender segregated for the health of the pilots. The feedback is harsh enough when its the thoughts of a thousand grandfathers echoing in your head trying to tell you that you are them. Its extra fucked up when your dead grandma is also trying to convince you that you are her. Knights are supposed to last for thousands of years. Its a matter of the Houses trying to ensure their survival.

>>47825770
Already there spreading my opinion like AIDS. Expect /v/ to replicate me in a couple weeks.

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>>47825770
>Video
fucking realized why DoW3 has been bothering me
It reminds me of Starcraft 2!
>normally slower units moving as though they're on Sonic and twitch
>huge bodily telegraph of attacks and abilities
>a weird mix of bland and fine details

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>>47826642

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>>47826788

>>47804120
1/2
>[...]
>I am about to answer her when I hear a crash of metal on stone. The sound sends adrenaline jolting through me, and I roll my shoulders before remembering I am no longer in my armour.
>House Cadmus Sacristans rush to Sir Tellurus. His armour has finally given out under the strain. His mount lies on its side, sparking and convulsing like a man in the throes of a grand mal seizure.
>With Cordelia still supporting me, I run to the fallen Knight. What the armour feels, the pilot feels, and the pain of such bio-feedback will be agonising.
>‘Get him out of there!’ I shout. ‘Now!’
>The Sacristans get to work on the shuddering Knight, and as I watch their efforts, I cannot help but think that Tellurus is resisting their efforts in some way.
>Almost as though he does not want their help.
>Then the canopy of the armour opens, and I see why Tellurus never speaks unless clad in armour. I understand in that moment something of what has driven Tellurus to become a Freeblade.
>Sir Tellurus is not a sir at all.
>Tellurus is a woman.
>[...]

>>47804120
>>47827263
2/2
>[...]
>In the wake of revelations concerning the true identity of Sir Tellurus, I sealed Verdus Ferrox and immediately ordered the Cadmus Sacristans to repair the Knight’s armour.
>The last of her line, Tellia, as is her true name, sat upon her dead father’s Throne Mechanicus as Hive Fleet Hydra destroyed her home world and slaughtered the rest of her family. Rather than accepting her fate and letting death claim her, she fought back and escaped in a suit of >Knight armour that resisted her control at every step.
>It speaks volumes to her courage and character that she was able to pilot a suit of Knight armour without years of training, or going mad with pain at a connection without the correct input sockets drilled in her spine.
>That a woman should be a pilot of a Knight goes against every tenet of knighthood and tradition. I should strip her of her armour and have her castigated for defiling millennia of tradition.
>But I will not.
>I owe Tellia my life, and I am bound by the same knightly code that should see her punished to honour my debt to her.
>More than that, I admire her. I should not, but I do.
>Cordelia has exacted a promise that I will never speak of Tellia, only of Tellurus. A hard promise to make, as deception is something every Knight of virtue abhors.
>But in all my years of marriage to Cordelia, I have learned that when she sets her mind to something, it is best not to get in her way.
>Sir Tellurus has also elected to remain on Vondrak, hoping to find and slay the tervigon beast that wiped out her line.
>An honourable quest, but one I fear can only end badly.

This would seem to imply that it's highly unusual at best, senpai.

>>47758611

>"Good, but I'm not holding my breath until I see who's making it."
>Relic

Thank the fucking lord.

Looks like its in between Dawn of War 1 and 2 with gameplay styles.

>>47828907

>>47826788

>>47829191

I see two pictures of SC2, what's your point?

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8KB, 237x205px

>>47829257
you had me going for a second

>>47829534

That was the joke.

But no seriously I'm thick otherwise, is it that it looks like SC2?

>>47829787
yep