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conflictchamber.com stuff:

>>47695543
Fixed

>>47695616

Two new buttons on the list menu:

Copy to clipboard: Copies a text copy of the list to the clipboard. Works on Chrome and Firefox, may not work on Safari.

Permanent link: The button has a saveable link (right-click "copy link address" to save/post/whatever) to the list you're currently editing.

The permanent links generated are hideously long for now, but at some point in the near future I'll compress them to a more manageable size -- but, in any case, they work.

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>>47699014

First for Magnus was right

>>47699073
Did you catch the Kozlov missing?

House Ellowuyr Swordsmen
Retribution Unit
Spd 6, Str, 6, Mat 7, Rat 4, Def 13, Arm 13, Cmd 8

Parry
Bladeshield
Cleave

Ellowuyr Greatsword
Rng 2, Pow 6, PS 12

Leader + 5 @ PC 10
Leader + 9 @ PC 15
FA 2
Small Base

House Lys Healer
Retribution Solo
Spd 6, Str 4, Mat 5, Rat 4, Def 13, Arm 13, Cmd 8

Ancient Shroud
Soul Ward
Magic Ability
(*Action) Heal [d3+1]
(*Action) Power of Faith [no knockdown/stationary]
(*Action) Purifying Aura [animus and continuous effects in command rng expire]

Can move during maintenance phase if friendly faction model was damaged in its cmd rng

PC 3
FA 2
Small Base

Do we have the mkiii Inflictor's card?

Knights Exemplar Officer
Protectorate Command Attachment
Spd 5 Str 6 Mat 8 Rat 4 Def 12 Arm 15 Cmd 9

Battle Driven
Tactics: Overtake
Granted: Cleave
Minifeat for Divine Inspiration

Relic Blade
Rng 1, Pow 5, PS 11, Magical Weapon, Weapon Master

PC 3
FA 3
Small Base

>>47699165
FA 3? Isn't the unit FA U?

>>47699165


Jesus

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>>47699116


>throw quicken on them

LOOKS LIKE DEF 17 IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS

>>47699165
Source?

>>47699103
Yes, editing in the missing mk3 battlebox casters now.

Incidentally, anyone who wants to spend leaks to [email protected] is welcome to, and they'll get added to the list builder fairly quickly.

>>47699165

Time to lube up, heretics.

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>>47699343

>>47699462
Thanks, both will be up soon.

Is there any new unit for Protectorate? Or just a CA and solo?

>>47699165
What is Divine Inspiration?

>>47699609
add an additional die and drop the lowest on attack and damage rolls

>>47699584
Caster + 2 releases per faction

>>47699584

What's the solo?

>>47699709
Deliverer Armsmaster

Gives arcing fire and rerollable CRAs

>>47699748
Any word on what the Skorne Venator Dakaar does?

>>47699073

Undo doesn't update the point total at the top.

You rock btw

What'd circle get? And cygnar got Maddox and the rifleman, anything else?

>>47699103
>>47699116
>>47699134
>>47699165
>>47699343
>>47699462

Added all of these.

>>47699811

Try doing a hard refresh (ctrl+shift+r on Chrome or Firefox), you might have an older version of the code in your cache, as I fixed that one like half an hour ago -- at least, I fixed *a* bug with undo not updating point totals.

>>47699833


Stoneshaper solo, actually should be out at L&L

>>47699833
An awesome caster. Otherwise, dunno. But if someone were to leak the Circle cards, I'd add them to conflictchamber real quick ;)

>>47699856


Savio Acosta is erroneously 3 PC instead of 6

new edition out yet? how is it?

t. never played

New starter legion list. Also do we have rules for the new nyss warlord?

Kryssa +31
Angelius 17
Neraph 12
Boltthrower11
Raek 8
shredder 4
shredder4


Anyssa Ryvaal 8
Forsaken 4
Shepard 1

Hellmouth 6
Hellmouth 6

50points

>>47699888
official release date is Saturday night at Lock & Load

>>47699762
He's probably a 3 pt artillerist bot. Whoopdie doo. I'm more curious about the character beast we'll presumably get.

>>47699882
Fixed.

Occurs to me I also have the Mk2 cost for Hutchuck, as I haven't seen his Mk3 card yet.

>>47699833
Cygnar got Maddox, Arcane Tempest Rifleman solo and the Stormsmith Grenadiers

>>47698583
Do you have a list in mind?

>>47699905
SPD 6, MAT 8, DEF 14, ARM 13
1 initial, 1" melee POW 11 WM
Blade Shield, Cleave, Overtake, Precision Strike, Leadership: Precision Strike, Decapitation
5 points, FA 2

>>47699927
Oh god, not more of this "The fluff has a beast with a name" crap. Every other beast in the fluff has a name.

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Anyone wanna throw some dojo in for this?

>>47699927
Yeah, the beast's model has been teased, but no one else is getting a jack or beast in Prime, so we may be waiting a while for him. No idea what we're getting other than the Stoneshaper.

>>47700058

Goddamn that does not look fun to play against.

>>47700058


Wimpy

Also needs Wish nailer

Mangler
Mule
Double nomad
Double renegade
Rover

Wish nailer

Ragman
Saxon

>>47700058
How do I combat this list with Cryx?

>>47698093
Strakhov +28
-War Dog -3
-Torch -18
-Victor -38
Widowmaker Marksman -4
Battle Mechaniks (m) -3
Doom Reavers + UA -16
Doom Reavers + UA -16
Widowmakers -8

Hm.

Yeah I just cannot bring myself to like AKs :|

If I did.

Strakhov +28
-War Dog -3
-Torch -18
-Victor -38
AKs -16
-Flamethrowers x3 -6
Black Dragons + UA -21 OR Uhlans -20
(IF Uhlans, THEN Gobber Tinker)

Does doom reaver UA have sacred ward or can you target then with friendly

>>47700149
Thanks

>>47700197
>>47700163
Forgot about Sylys, I'll switch Maddie for him.

I was also looking to add a Mangler, also I fucked up and thought Talons had Shield Guard. Meant the Rover or Vanguard.

-Talon x2
- Madelyn
-Kell

+Sylys
+Mangler
+Saxon

There we go, that should be nice and mean.

>>47700248
they all have spell ward. UAs too. no friendly spells either

Anyone know what a Farrow Valkyrie is? Check Helga's card.

>>47700493

I don't think they've been spotted yet.

>>47700493
clearly a flying pig

They might be a 'Forces of X' book release, seems like those books will have a new caster (not the BB one) and some new beasts/Jacks (Loki and the Legion Ballista Snek renders were shown)

>>47699635

Fuck.

Does nobody around here have this magical mysterious French prime book?

>>47699165
Decent, but 12/17 is pretty killable, and they lose a lot when he dies.

>>47700768
Seconding. French anon here who can (and wants to) read it.

>>47699748
does he benefit the sunburst crew in any way?

>>47700788
Command 9 gives him a lot of leeway to hide like a bitch long enough for his unit to make combat, and Menoth is rolling in Shield Guards nowadays.

>>47700788
good thing there is vision, martyrdom and shield guard.
Its interesting that overtake is the tactics and not cleave. Means even if he dies they are going to tear it up with eKreoss

>>47700818
arcing fire does. both effects benefit plain deliverers

>>47700920

It's a good thing Deliverers are still shit. Otherwise someone might buy the new model.

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Forgive my ignorance, I tend to drift in and out of Warmachine news, but whatever happened to the new Colossals that were supposed to come out? Where's the Menoth Revelator?
On that note, where's the Indictor warjack?

>>47700805

Third--where is this mystery book?

>>47701002
revelator was never actually released in mk2 (it wasn't the only one)

indictor is like 3 years late, like the inflictor. neither were actually made during mk2. was supposedly a supply chain issue. the grolar finally came out for khador after about as long (they're all from the same book)

problem is that the grolar and inflictor were good and somewhat needed, the indictor wasn't good or even wanted.

>>47700970
pow 18 guns aren't anything to sneeze at.
plus now that their uncombined attack is utter shit they will eat up way less clock

>>47701041
>the indictor wasn't good or even wanted.
The rules weren't good, but I've been wanting another sword and board jack for a while

>>47701002


Rules came out a year ago, models for all besides Cryx ended up being delayed past when Mk3 itself will launch.

They're still coming and look pretty good, I actually don't think there's a dud in the warmachine 2nd wave of colossals. They have had their Mk3 stats spoiled too and they're still pretty strong

The second gargantuans were more of a mixed bag and still haven't had their Mk3 stats revealed

>>47701061
the Inflictor for Cryx still hasn't come out. Khador's Grolar finally dropped a couple months ago though

>>47701042

I just have a hard time giving a shit about a single, unboostable, PoW 18 attack at AoE3.

If they were AoE 4 base, it would probably be alright.

Menoth has enough good gun jacks to not really need them.

Maybe they will get a UA that makes them more appealing sometime.

>>47701061
>The second gargantuans were more of a mixed bag and still haven't had their Mk3 stats revealed
blightbringer didnt change except to lose the bite and gain two claws with arcs (so it can actually use sweep attacks). it's still amazing. that's really all that matters.

Someone just needs to hack this;


http://files.privateerpress.com//rules/


There are all the rules, can't get around the permissions wall though.

>>47701058
The mk3 Indictor is actually pretty good.

>>47701061
I haven't seen Mk3 Revelator stats... you have spoilers?

>>47701117
Your forgetting that with the changes to battle and losing assault on the reckoner they are easily the long threating and most accurate gun in our arsenal.

>>47701118
got slightly cheaper too. Also the pow + str of the claws are 1 less than the bite.

>>47701061
>The second gargantuans were more of a mixed bag and still haven't had their Mk3 stats revealed
We've seen half of them. Still waiting on the Hydra and Zapdos for MKIII stats.

>>47701262
2 POW 17s + 1 POW 18 > 2 POW 18s

and sweep isn't amazing, but it's a nice option, especially when you have an inherent -2 DEF no tough bubble option

>>47699462

What are the back of the cards?

>>47701061

GK has to buy his shots
Will be good with one, maybe two Locks.

They shit the bed with him.

>>47701061
2 years ago.

>>47701275

Hydra is confirmed to be exactly the same, same cost (doubled) and having a handful more boxes but otherwise identical.

>>47701061
Sepulcher's recursion was trashed. Only collects corpses from enemy models now.

>>47699833
The warroom 2 data includes "Tharn Wolf Rider Champion" as a card title.

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>>47699940

No, every faction is actually getting a character beast in the next (not prime) book. The Legion and Circle one have already had their sculpts shown. No rules yet.

The Circle one is a Warp Wolf with a shield and a hook on a chain (Lobo style). Looks pretty baller.

>>47701762
Any more tidbits in there?

>>47701572

So he is exactly the same... and he was good before MK3. So he is still good then eh?

Cool.

>>47701782

Here are all the titles:
http://pastebin.com/p4AL0F4R

So, /tg/, are Satyxis nerfed to uselessness in this edition, or can I still run horn-waifus?

>>47701849
>khador man o war kovnik
>khador man o war officer
>khador man o war shocktrooper officer

hmmmm

>mercenary colbie sterling captain of the bri

>>47701849
>skorne praetorian karax officer & standard

>>47701849

>circle cassius the oathkeeper

He's called Wyrmwood now you sons of bitches!

>>47701958

FUCKING FINALLY!

Skornes been dieing for UA's for about a decade now.

Here's hoping it isn't just utter trash.

>Skorne is suffering

>>47701912
I saw a couple of duplicates, so I think officer and shocktrooper officer may be the same

>>47701893
Blood Witches pretty much got better. Raiders are now more infantry-mulch, less jam. Gunslingers can help clear them out with Black Penny.

Carrion Thralls are the real jammers.

>>47701849
>cryx captain aiakaos
schweet

>>47701912
>khador man o war officer

Knew it. The Demo Core looked retarded. I have a hunch that the war officer buffs every type of MOW.

>Sovereign tristan Durant

>>47701849

>sovereign tristan Durant

Bwuh?

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>>47699014

New to Warmachine here. Where can I find information on theme lists that aren't covered in the Menoth army book? I'm really into the cavalry and the only 2 warcasters I have are Intercessor Kreoss and Servath Reznik Wrath of Ages, neither of which is covered in the Menoth book.
I've tried googling, but it looks like Battle College is down and I can't find anywhere else that would have it.

>>47702172
new edition comes out saturday wait till then.

>>47702172
Theme lists are gone until new ones get released in the indefinite future.

>>47702153
all the journeyman characters are becoming full casters at some point

>>47702172
existing theme lists don't matter at all at this point. wait until saturday/sunday when the new ones are released with the new ed.

>>47702146
>>47702153
WE wuz horselords and shit

>>47702214
We've been told theme lists are a big part of mk3 list building. i expect to see a lot in war room in a couple days.

>>47701912

They REALLY want to sell those Man-O-Wars.

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>>47702216
>>47702214
>>47702205

You mean we're getting a Mark 3 rulebook already?
Shit did I pick the wrong time to get into this.

>>47702230
Citation?

>>47702280
I wouldn't say "already"

Both mk1 and mk2 lasted about 6 years each.

>>47702280
Hah, the rules drop digitally Saturday night. I don't think you picked a bad time at all, to be honest. Things are looking good all around (considering how pretty much every faction assumes they're now "The Worst Faction").

Apparently the Australian FB group has the Prime Conflux's cards. Can anyone check?

>>47702297
Will hungerford's chain attack interview

>>47702315
Have you seen the khador forum lately

>Is it wrong to think we "won" MK3?

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>>47702308
>>47702315

I just bought the rule books :(
So will we be getting theme lists along with the new rules, or are we gonna have to wait a bit for those? Are they gonna release new faction books?

Sorry, like I said I'm new and very ignorant.

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>>47702327
1/4

>>47702327
they in fact are up on there.

>>47702372
new rules are free besides buying the cards, anon

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>>47702394
2/4
Dangit post timer

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>>47702416
3/4

>>47702372
what comes out this weekend is the core rules (free online) and the faction card decks on war room. war room will probably have all the new theme forces loaded in.

physical card decks and new battle-boxes and some new models will be sold at the Lock & Load Convention in Seattle this weekend as well. Retailers will have them on shelves around the 29th.

new faction books will trickle out over the next 6+ months

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>>47702427
4/4

>>47702205
>>47702214
>>47702216

Just for fun, where can I find the theme lists anyway? I'd still like to see them.

>>47702398
>>47702440

So the cards that came with the models I already have will no longer be valid?

>>47702444
Hah, he's a stoneshepherd.

>>47702068
Avast me hearties!

>>47702394
I'm not sure what to make of the Conflux really.

15" reload 1 gun is nice, especially with the line attack. double ripstrikes are really good especially paired with inverters. pop out servitors and they'll help make the damage of the electric gun even higher. fists causing additional damage after the punch is pretty cool especially since the servitors make those POW 12 instead of 10

i just hate modulators and the whole point of this thing seems to be to force me to play modulators.

>>47702479
Unfortunately not

>>47702479
theme forces are in the Forces books and occasionally in No Quarter as well maybe?

your cards will be completely obsolete in under 48 hours, yes.

>>47702519
oh and there are theme forces in all the newer sourcebooks too, for the new casters that come out in each.

theme forces will work totally differently in mk3. they're not tied to specific casters. Menoth will probably have like...an exemplars theme list, a flameguard theme list, a zealot-style theme list, a daughters theme list etc. that can be used with any caster

>>47702497
What that survives the conflux's POW21 is scared of POW10/12?

>>47702519
>theme forces are in the Forces books and occasionally in No Quarter as well maybe?

I'm looking specifically for the Intercessor Kreoss and Reznik Wrath of Ages theme forces, which aren't in the faction book.

>>47702000
Rumor is its a karat UA with iron zeal. Hooray?

I've been trying to convert the pdf that is in french to english but I'm doing horrible. Anybody got some good ideas? (Yes, I do have the PDF)

>>47702554
Well, can the servitors stack?

Because if they can, those are pow 16 auto hits.

>>47702575
same-named effects never stack

Share the pdf so anyone can take a Crack at it

>>47702569
Post it here, I am French.

>>47701275
I thought the hydra was spoiled on the forums to be essentially unchanged with some more boxes.

>>47702556
Why do you care? They're lists that won't be playable in like...46 hours.

>>47702554
yeah idk that jumped out at me too. they're boostable though for all that matters.

that's really stupid looking design. wonder what I'm not seeing if anything

>>47702567

I wouldn't hate it.

Not sure it's what Skorne "needs" but at least that puts Karax on par with just about every other "Shield Wall/Iron Zeal" units out there. It would make them pretty great with Xerxis1 and be nice with just about any caster we have that has a Def or Arm buff of some kind on them.

Basically, I'd play them. Probably be pretty good too.

>>47702554
doesn't mother have her +2 damage servitors?
Even heavies don't like pow14s

>>47702616
Why would I boost damage instead of buying another attack?

>>47702599

Yeah, it was.

>Skorne is suffering

>>47702600
He's probably interested in the fluff/design concepts. You can't really match casters to the intra faction groups by their looks alone sometimes.

Xerxis is obviously a cataphract, Kress an exemplar etc. Butcher isn't as obviously an orgoth fanboy.

>>47702669
This is still terrible shit polishing. It can't even let it charge for free itself

>>47701447
I never said it was bad. Just point out the difference. Ill take two attacks for 1 less pow.

>>47702672
im just trying to think of some good reason for the effect, fuck

>>47702600

If you don't wanna help that's fine but >>47702677 is right.

>>47702672
design space

For real though maybe cyriss will get a thing that boosts electric damage as a sub-theme in the faction.

I mean, all cygnar lightning tech came from cyriss.

>>47702779
Sure, but we're not even getting the best parts of electricity, electro leap or disruption

>>47702827
Design space.

>>47702779

Nemo reverse-engineered some Cyriss tech, but Cygnar's storm tech is 99% his. The Modulator's fluff even notes how absolutely different the Convergence's electric weaponry tech is from Cygnar's and how it's a recent Cyriss development.

>>47702599
>>47701689
That's a bit disappointing.

>>47702871
I remember in Escalation, Nemo literally went into a Cyriss temple to steal a weather machine.

How many points are the Carrion Thralls?

>>47702331

Khador can't have won Mk3, MK3's alternate title is the "Age of Cygnar"

I can concede khador came in a close second however

>>47702991

6 and 10 if I remember right

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>>47703054

They're pretty neat actually.

>>47703054
>>47703066
>>47703033

Thanks guys. I think they're very cool little dudes.

Anyone have the Venator Dakar stats or know what his abilities do?

Cryx Army - 75 / 75 (+28) points
Pirate Queen Skarre [+28]
- Ripjaw [7]
- Ripjaw [7]
- Ripjaw [7]
- Ripjaw [7]
- Slayer [10]
- Slayer [10]
The Withershadow Combine [9]
Satyxis Raiders (max) [16]
- Satyxis Raider Sea Witch [3]
Satyxis Raider Captain [4]
Bane Warriors (max) [17]
- Bane Warrior Officer & Standard [6]

So, I realized as I was digging through Cryx that the Ripjaws have critical armor piercing. That + dark guidance + powerful attack means, under normal circumstances, a POW10 Armor Piercing 3d6 damage attack with 4d6 to hit. Normally I would question focus, but Skarre can feed them as needed thanks to the Combine eating either her Banes or Satyxis.

Against a Colossal, it's possible to do the usual 2 damage per hit with the Raiders, or to just power-up the Ripjaws and Slayers and crush it without a problem.

Banes are included primarily for Dark Shroud.

Thoughts?

>>47703116
veteran leader venators is the only thing known I think

>>47702894
I dunno, nu agonizer and a few more boxes will make it tougher. 5 initials is no joke either. Gargs still really lack the shooting presence collossals have, though, in addition to less boxes.

Anybody have info on the MOW warmaster or the like?

>>47703147
I thought the shock trooper UA was it? Demo could really use granted: back swing or rapid strike or something. Battle Lust can fix the WM loss.

>>47702394
>>47702416
so it looks like your going to be shooting 2 boosted attacks with the main gun every turn while handing out beacon and avoiding melee as long as possible

>>47703266
>It looks terrible

>>47703191
Apparently there is some warmaster that was not spoiled being a curveball on the side. It sounds like either the thing that gives out focus, OR something that helps ALL MOWs.

>>47699907
>>47702205
>>47702216
>>47702315

We only get the core rules released online on the 12th. We don't get the new faction decks or anything else until the 29th.

>>47703393
War Room should get the cards on the 12th too.

>>47703525

And they're actually available for free?
Because with mark 2 they've certainly done some work trying to keep the stats on individual cards from being made available to the public unless you actually buy them. Even the wikis could only give a general description of how well certain units perform, not the actual stats.

On a side note, why is Battle College down? I get that they wanna update for the new rules when they come out, but there's no reason at all for them to take everything off the site until then.

>>47703127
Anyone? Am I just crazy?

Ok, just updated conflictchamber.com with the new stuff spoiled here and fixed some of the long-name rendering.

Also fixed the "Save as image" option so it both renders pretty accurately compared to the online version and now works with Firefox.

Going to get some sleep now, but I'll check this thread tomorrow or anything sent to [email protected].

>>47703697

doing god's work anon

>>47699905
Why do you even pick shredders? Arent they goddamned useless?
Oh and by the way all Legion beasts are viable in MK3 or some dropped off favor?

>>47703757

Shredders can be ok in packs, but they're no longer the ultimate Animus bot.

Stingers are worthless now, Harriers may be if they can't find a new niche. Zuriel's reason to exist is presently in question...which is odd to say about 2" MAT 8s.

Khador Army - 75 / 75 (+29) points

Kommander Sorscha [+29]
- Beast 09 [21]
- Berserker [8]
- Sylys Wyshnalyrr, The Seeker [4]
Dirty Meg [3]
- Talon [7]
Widowmaker Scouts [8]
Winter Guard Field Gun Crew [4]
Winter Guard Mortar Crew [5]
Kossite Woodsmen (min) [7]
Widowmaker Marksman [4]
Kell Bailoch [5]
Eiryss, Angel of Retribution [6]
Black Dragons (min) [10]
Greylord Ternion [7]
Alten Ashley [5]

>>47703809
Angelus? Teraph kit? Ravagore? Others are all good?

>>47702894


Hydra got buffed from power up and arcanists buff

Two arcanists + power up can give that hydra 3 focus per turn with zero investment from its caster.

>>47703831

Other stuff is pretty alright. Teraph and AA remain meh but aren't bad. Nephilim Soldier still can't justify its existence but is better. Neraph is playing the budget heavy role, so depending on how that shakes out it may have its own niche now. Proteus and Typhon improved.

Angelius, Seraph, Ravagore, and Scythean are our best heavies. Blightbringer got buffed. Carnivean lost some utility with Spiny going SELF but it's still alright.

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>>47703883

>>47703811
Not sure what megs is going there.

>>47703931
Stall.

Bother her and the talon stationary warjacks. Sorscha is weaponmaster vs stationary.

>>47703811
Maybe swap the talon for the buccaneer.
Knock down, stall/stationary and distruption essentially takes a jack out of the fight for a round

>>47703953
You really gonna be weaponmastering Warjacks with Sorcha? Thats still around 17.5 damage at best.

>>47703138
Its not bad, it just feels like its lacking something to make it really go "Wow". The extra boxes help, but it just feels like the only thing that makes it stand out was the fact its an uber Dire Troll in a non-Trollbloods army.

>>47703841
Desert Hydra, the Skorne gargantuan.

Is the Stoneshaper good enough to make Wold lists good? I wish they would spoil some theme forces. All I wanna do is chill in a forest with Baldur and some stones. Is that so wrong?

>>47704001
Unlike in mk2, meg can't throw out a boosted buccaneer assault shot anymore.

But she can put out a mat 10 talon charge with stall.

Also, field gun knocks down. The list doesn't have disruption, since this is Eiryss2. Don't actually own Eiryss1, I always found 2 more versatile (until she got stomped on in mk3).

Thinking of dropping the greylords for eliminators, and turning the berserker into a marauder.

>>47704020

That's 3D6 damage healed per turn for 9 PC. Park them behind a wold wrath and watch that fucker yo yo. They make eBaldur ARM skew absurd

They're going to be good, I'm buying three at L&L

>>47699928
Currently I can take the Commodore Cannon in a Magnus list. Is that a bug, or should I be buying a cannon in the immediate future?

>>47704020
>Is the Stoneshaper good enough to make Wold lists good?

No.

>All I wanna do is chill in a forest with Baldur and some stones. Is that so wrong?

No.

>>47704060
Bug, it can be taken by any Privateer warcaster though

>>47703874
Do i even want to purchase their old battlebox or two-player box stuff? Just like Carnivean, Lylyth and Warspears.
Yes, i just dislike new warlock too.
Maybe you care to make a quick rundown on LoE beasts? Id say thanks obavnik if you do.

>>47704060


Sadly no, eMagnus feat, calamity and commodore would be just fucking sickening

>excuse me just gonna throw down two pow 22 sprays on your colossal, no big deal

>>47703586
I was only replying to the guy who said we wouldn't get cards until the 29th. That said, all the stats are freely available in v1 of War Room if you have a hex editor and some patience. I suspect the same of v2, but will have to wait until the 12th to verify...

>>47704060
>or should I be buying a cannon in the immediate future?

Yes because you can run it with Shae, Bart, or Fiona in general merc lists now.

>>47704090

Guess it depends.

-4x Shredders is probably more than you'll ever need now.

-Carnivean tends to be a rare inclusion in 2e, but he's hard hitting, still has a good spray, and got cheaper in 3e.

-Lylyth1 has seen some improvements in 3e and only suffered a few light nerfs. A lot of people are excited to try her out.

Gimmie a bit and I can try to do a beast rundown. Are you asking for changes in 3e, "is it worth buying this"...?

>>47704060
>>47704087
>>47704178

Fixed it. I swear, I'm going to bed now...

Anyone have any advice for listbuilding Sevy1 and 2 in 3e? Dunno where to start aside from probably BoV.

>>47704205
>-Carnivean tends to be a rare inclusion in 2e, but he's hard hitting, still has a good spray, and got cheaper in 3e.

The Hellmouth is going to change the balance of Legion beasts, and the Carni is, I think, going to be the biggest beneficiary, since he's now reasonably priced, great at cracking armor, and the Hellmouth is a huge threat booster for a slow beast.

>>47704407

I'm certainly excited for the Hellmouth. That it is largely self-sufficient and pretty resilient is nice, given our Warlocks.

So does anyone have a pdf of Blood of Kings.

>>47704020

Baldur2, Woldwrath(s), 3 of these guys

It's a seriously hard nut to crack.

Convergence Army - 75 / 75 (+28) points

Father Lucant, Divinity Architect [+28]
- Corollary [6]
- Diffuser [6]
- Inverter [15]
Enigma Foundry [5]
Enigma Foundry [5]
Algorithmic Dispersion Optifex [2]
Algorithmic Dispersion Optifex [2]
Reciprocators (max) [18]
Reciprocators (max) [18]
Eradicators (max) [15]
Clockwork Angels [5]
Clockwork Angels [5]

Playing around with conflict chamber.

>>47704629


Add in shifting stones, that's 5 fucking D6 damage healed per turn, guaranteed, at ARM 23

>>47704759


My bad

3d6 +2d3

>>47704759

Just beware grievous wounds. it stops all healing on constructs too now.

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Do we know what units are gonna come in the new starter boxes they're releasing?

>>47704947

I believe it was Bane Warriors, Stormguard, Fennblades, and Swordsmen.

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>>47704955

Thanks anon. What about Menoth?

>>47704407
Yeah, the Hellmouth looks like it will be very important to the meta. Relatively cheap point-wise and able to disrupt enemy positioning.

Soon to be new player here

Can't decide on Cryx, Protectorate, Or Legion. Never played a tabletop game and they all look equally cool to me which would you recommend? I'm also pretty sure I can't paint for shit.

>>47704985

Thought you meant the two player boxes. The individual battleboxes are just battlegroups, no infantry.

>>47704947

like this anon said >>47705005 no units in battleboxes except 2 player ones, if you meant what beasts/jacks though http://www.discountgamesinc.com/blog/june-and-july-new-releases/ lists them

Not sure what to think of the Nyss Warlord. Neat abilities but he still seems squishy enough that delivering him can be a problem.

>>47705030
>>47705005

Thanks anons. Pardon my ignorance, I'm another new guy. To be honest I'm more of a hoarder than a player, my eventual goal is to have one of every Menoth unit (as in full infantry units, solos, jacks, etc). I've played about 5 games total, but I'm looking to get into playing a lot more once this new edition drops.

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>>47704998
What do you want from your faction? Style.

>>47699140
Yes

>>47705117

so you're looking at 1 Repenter light warjack, 1 Revenger light warjack, 1 Castigator heavy warjack in the menoth box

>>47705168

Yeah found that on the link that >>47705030 provided. Might be worth it for me to get that. I've already got a couple each of the light jacks, but I don't have a castigator and that combined with the new warcaster is probably gonna be more than $40 to buy separately.

I hate having to wait til the rules actually come out before I can start planning my army out though. I mentioned that I don't have much experience playing, but I love building armies just for fun.

Sadly, Gamenerdz appears to have raised a bunch of their prices. The bullshit price control policy is making eBay the only budget option left.

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>>47702416
>Ripspikes pow 11 still
>d3 pow 10 on model already hit
The fuck?

>>47705224

there's no reason you can't start now really, there might be some small changes once we do know the rules but most stuff should work as expected

>>47705237
but anon it's good for the LGS

you don't want to be a parasite do you?

>>47705350
The LGS that I never go to since I play at home?

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War Room 2 prices got stealth-announced.

>>47701849
>mercenary colbie sterling captain of the bri

quick google came up with https://dedurrett-ikrpg.obsidianportal.com/characters/colbie-sterling

>>47705350
Not him, but I don't even have a LGS in my town. Yet I must pay more because "muh lgs". Fuck that price policy.

>>47705459
The really stupid part is that online stores will likely to continue to undercut LGSs (maybe not by as much, but still) and make the policy fail to drive any more sales to them. Modern retail is shifting heavily to online and its stupid of anyone to think that they can fight that.

>>47705244
Reload on the best gun. So 4 range attacks with a line AoE on 2. Not as outright powerful as some other Colossal shooting platforms though.

Those d3 pow 10s are almost guaranteed to be pow 12s because of power grid. Not really sure what survives a beating by P+S 21 that cares about that but I suppose they'd add up through sheer quantity. x5 P+S 21s and 5-15 pow 12s.

>>47705527
Its clearly so if your caster and corollary get distrupt you can still burn through a power field/ transfers :>)

>>47705457
That's one of the Fools Rush In IKRPG starter adventurer. The leader. Huh.

>>47705384
About $104 dollars to purchase everything individually. (11 factions x $9 + $5 for Cyriss)

Of course if ultimate bundle includes the new hordes faction (which everyone expects to be Zu) that helps.

>>47705577
Works out as a tough annihilator too.

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>>47705457
We know. Her model got shown off ages ago

>>47705619
>those curls
>that midriff
>those powerful thighs
I guess its called fapmachine and whores for a reason

>>47705619

Unf. So into it.

I guess she's a mechanic.Hope she does something interesting.

>>47705619

Going to suck when its probably going to be another Merc release where "This model will work for Cygnar"

Still mad i cant use the Devil's Shadow more

WHAT THE FUCK DID THEY DO TO SKARRE?

>>47705719
single faction mercs are the cancer killing warmachine desu

>>47705720
Balance.

>>47705762
She wasn't even the ultimate cancer of Cryx!

I hear there is a french book out in the wild. Anyone have news?

>>47705753
You are the cancer killing warmachine desu

Why can't Mercs have nice things, eh?

>>47705778

he's mad about cygnar-only mercs, not mercs in general

>>47705801
Eh, single faction mercs are easier to balance around. They don't have to worry about half the interactions that way

>>47705774
It's a meme.

>>47705771
They nerfed most of them

If mercs/minions worked with all factions, why not?

>>47702256
Joke's on them, I bought a set of reject shocktroopers from the 2 player box for $15.

>>47703586
>And they're actually available for free?
Are they fuck.
PP is jewing hard on Mk3

ive been out of the game for while, what do we know of mk3?

Anything at all, or just a few card leaks?

>>47706834
Wut
We know almost everything. Check the archives or wait two days till it comes out. You jumped in a smidge late, or early

>>47703897
>>47703883
I don't really care how effective it'd be in a game, I really like it. Nom fucking nom.

>>47705947
There's a million starter-box shocktroopers floating around out there.

And anyhow every Khador player I know already owned them because everyone thought they looked cool and wanted to play them, they just never had the rules to back it up.

New rules will get MoW's played, but as far as sales? That market's pretty well saturated.

>>47706883
It is pretty effective, especially if you'll remember that it's actually increase threat range of your other things too

>>47705771
She, uh, sort of was.

Has skarre been cancer for 14 years now?

Still no confirmation regarding electroleaps ignoring lighting immune models? Difference between Stormguard gold and meh.

>>47707039
If you can draw a free line to pull, you can pull enemy models from up to 18" away.
And it's immune to all ranged attacks that have pow 12 or less (unless boosted of course).
Deploy it in one of your zones or next to a flag and pull everything into range of your warbeasts at a safe distance. I absolutely love it, especially for 6 points and the nice model.

>Arcuarii still get to make pseudo-infinite attacks with Black Spot
Top lul.

>>47707149
That's straight up a special ability of nemo3.

>>47707174
Yea, and no one used them in mk2 for that either, because it's actually pretty bad.

>>47707190
That is gone from him in mk3

So, Prime Conflux looks to be the straight up worst Colossal in the game, which is hilarious.

>>47703883
This thing is amazing. I mean, not necessarily as a power piece, not sure if it will be good or bad... but it's amazing.

Just have the Watcher in the Water popping up in the middle of the board and eating the other guy's dudes? Amazing.

>>47707286
Good. Goooood.

>>47707318
The hellmouth, wurmwood and Cassius, kharchev, I like the janky, characterful, but still awesome design of some of this stuff in mk3.

The sarlacc pit almost makes me want to play legion on its own.

How are Retribution of scryah theses days?, there models are the only ones that really interest me.

>>47707020
Yeah, its not a coincidence of the first MoW UAs is for shocktroopers, when Demos and Bombs need one more.

>>47705137
Thank toruk its still good

>>47707378
We're not going to spoonfeed you shit that's been discussed in depth over the past weeks.

Read the insider and spoiled cards and stfu.

>>47707378
They're a lot better, possibly one of the higher tier factions in MKIII, but we'll see how stuff goes.

>>47707673
is a faggot but you really should look this stuff up before jumping in to anything.

>>47705457
>https://dedurrett-ikrpg.obsidianportal.com/characters/colbie-sterling
so are Midlunders supposed to all be black, I've always wondered where people like siege come hail from in cygnarian society

Ok.

I haven't really played in a few years, and what I did play wasn't much. Now, it seems like a new edition is coming out? I guess I'm going to go do some catching up, but can anyone give me a tldr?
Also, with this new edition, how do you think Mercs will be? They interested me the most, particularly Fiona.

>>47707747
Midlunders are swarthy, so dark hair and ruddy skin. Siege and other blacks are either Radiz or Sinari, both nomadic smaller groups that move throughout the Iron Kingdoms but are most common in central and western Cygnar. As far as society goes, Cygnar has some old blood in nobility but beyond that are pretty enlightened and judge based on action and skill more than anything else.

>>47703127
I'm quite curious about Ripjaws as well, though I don't have the models yet. For only one point more than Deathrippers they look like a solid upgrade.

If all you're taking the Bane Warriors for is Dark Shroud, what about using the Wraith Engine instead? You don't have to worry so much about it being shot off the table and the huge base means it'll debuff a fairly wide area. You could use the saved points to get some Scrap Thralls for use as Ritual Sacrifice targets.

Skorne Army - 74 / 75 (+24) points

Supreme Archdomina Makeda [+24]
- Molik Karn [20]
- Titan Gladiator [14]
- Archidon [12]
- Cyclops Brute [8]
Cataphract Incindiarii (max) [18]
Nihilators (max) [15]
Tyrant Commander & Standard Bearer [6]
Paingiver Beast Handlers (min) [5]

>>47707378
It's looking really good, and all of the models from the battle boxes are usable.

>>47707887

>an archidon

you just wanted to waste points didn't you

>>47707972
Yeah with dash now only warrior models gain parry, so it's not really an assassination vector for her if there are strong free strikes on the way.

The Archidon could be cool for dudes like eMorg or Naaresh or something. Xekaar would get more out of MK and reposition 5" than he would out of sprint. I think eMakeda is supposed to play an attrition game with stay death and high def infantry, although I'm not sure how to work that through scathers. Still, between Orin and Wrong Eye, a Krea, and an agonizer her army can get pretty sticky. I wish she had a storm rager target she could stay death that wasn't an AG. Something like a Man O War drakkun, or a non character lord of the feast.

So what are your thoughts on the new Warders and Champions in Mk3?

I need to buy one or the other to fill out my troll's troops, but with my already substantial investment into a full unit of Longriders + Horthol i'd rather buy one or the other.

Longriders can theoretically hit as hard as champs with their impact attacks and their brutal charge, and the Longriders, due to being the only 8 wound cav, can also potentially have as much staying power as warders.

So, in the end, who's better?
Champs or Warders?

>>47708044

Even then, after it pays a fury to charge, immune to FS or not, its a rather weak assassin at mat6, PS 16 (enraged) and 2 fury left to buy.

Not to mention crit pitch got changed so it can't even throw people back towards your lines

>>47708046
They're pretty different. Warmers are hugely defensive, Champs are about offense. Whatever you want to stress, pick that.

>>47708119

keeping people warm and fuzzy is a strong defense

>>47707850
The wraith engine puts out 3 attacks total and is expensive. If anything stock up on inflictors and bring an ILO

>>47707887
>>47707972
Soooo how about this instead?
Skorne Army - 75 / 75 (+29) points

Archdomina Makeda [+29]
- Basilisk Krea [7]
- Molik Karn [20]
- Titan Gladiator [14]
- Agonizer [7]
Cataphract Incindiarii (max) [18]
Nihilators (max) [15]
Tyrant Commander & Standard Bearer [6]
Praetorian Swordsmen (min) [8]
- Praetorian Swordsman Officer & Standard [4]
Paingiver Beast Handlers (min) [5]

>>47699073
So, according to you calculator, warlock attachments (like a runebearers and such) are considered part of the battle group and can be purchased with WB points.

Is this the new in Mk3 or an oversight on the calculator?

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So privateer press' idea of a discount is selling you new decks at the exact same price as you already bought them at. okay.

>>47708046
I feel like PP has done a pretty good job giving them different roles. Warders with Shield Guard will still be a staple of the faction, but that is, unfortunately, all they're good for.

Champions are a bit cheaper now and have 1" reach. I think that, as long as you an get them to the front lines without them being shot to death, then they're pretty good.

>>47708119
True, but is 6 large based, 8 wound, arm 17, bullrushing, Pow 14 cavalry at 25pts more defensive/offensive than 17 points of warders and/or 22 points of champs+skadi?

For their points, i think warders are solid a defensive choice with no frills or addons required, but for 3 points more i can have 10 more boxes and waaaay more damage.

With champs+skadi at 22 points, however, you have 12 pow 11+1d6 with overtake. The Longriders w/ Horthol have 6 pow 14 axe attacks (on the charge) with pow 14+1d6 impacts, also for only 3 pts more.
And to be honest, if your trying to push guys off of control zones i believe that the tuffalos are better at not only slamming the ememy off the zone, but are more likely to stay there afterwards.

>>47708295
Oversight. Will be fixed soon.

>>47708400
with eGrissel, pMadrak, and pBorka all giving champs 2 def and with the concealment from a SSC i think that getting def 16 arm 18 (under a stone) infantry to the frontlines wont be too hard.

Unless i am vastly underestimating shooting in mkIII...

>>47708406
Oh shit, Horthol is 8 points not 5. Fuck
So maybe 28 points of longriders doesnt beat 22 points of champs.
Though 17 pts of warders vs 20 pts of longriders isnt bad at all considering what you are getting

>>47707666
Bombies might be ok. They're still the jack of all trades, master of none unit... but at least they're doing it cheaper now.

And they all got the "attachment" in the form of the kovnik. That guy's going to be in every list with MoWs. Desperate pace is huge for them.

>>47700058
Which app is that?

>>47708697
conflictchamber.com

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>>47708730
Nice name

I want to make an entire army of dwarfs. How competitive are they for mk3? And what about pigs? If I ever get rid of my entire cryx, I'd love to bring home the bacon.

>>47708894
Salt chamber was already taken, I guess.

>>47704205
Thanks, obavnik!
>Are you asking for changes in 3e, "is it worth buying this"...?
Both maybe if you are willing to type alot?

>>47708989
Dwarves seems better than pigs. Pigs seem to be alright, I don't think most of their good stuff was touched, and some of it was even buffed. Either should be fine, pick which one you like the look of more.

>>47708436

Have you tried playing them without the Champ Hero move through ability now? Unwieldy to say the least.

Yeah they get there, then die to POW 12 charging infantry.

I got sensitive question here - can i use the Thousand Sons from 40k as a proxxy for anything? You see, it was a gift to me from my passed granpa. It is sort of a memory. I am selling my 40k army, yet these guys are not going nowhere. So i wanna use them as proxxys. Gathering a Menoth and CoC armies.

>>47709292
At a glance, CoC might be best for it thematically

>>47709292
Not in any official event, and it's likely to result in you copping a bunch of shit even casually.

>>47709292
Base sizes might be an issue.

>>47699014
Is there any online sites that still sell the all-in-ones?

>>47709292
Yeah, like >>47709381 said, base sizes are going to be the biggest issue.

Having the proper base size (30mm for most troops) is pretty important since it affects a lot of rules like LoS and the Drag special rule. If you are willing to rebase them then I think you can get away with it in casual games. I don't know how stringent a tournament organizer would be towards it, though. Definitely a no-go at an official event, but in a local tournament? I think you might be okay.

Thoughts?

Legion Army - 75 / 75 (+28) points

Thagrosh, Prophet of Everblight [+28]
- Angelius [17]
- Carnivean [19]
- Scythean [18]
Blighted Ogrun Warspears (max) [15]
- Warspear Chieftan [5]
Blighted Nyss Swordsmen (max) [15]
- Blighted Nyss Swordsman Abbot & Champion [6]
Blighted Nyss Shepherd [1]
Blighted Nyss Shepherd [1]
The Forsaken [4]
Feralgeist [2]

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so apparently karchev was a dangerous nigga before he got put into the casket

Why Lys Healer has Magic Ability? No spell was mentioned.

>>47709337
But for whom lol? They are only 9 while most models are 5-10 in number.
>>47709341
>Not in any official event, and it's likely to result in you copping a bunch of shit even casually.
Wont be a problem, really.
>>47709381
>>47709447
Ill buy new bases for them. Just cant really decide whom should they proxxy lol. Not much of a variety really with this goddamned 9-models stuff.
>>47709658
Sure he was, every warcaster is a dangerous nigga.

>>47709739
Well more like "everyone explodes" dangerouns

>>47709751
Maybe he used Harby's Cataclysm. I would expect the spell with that name having some effect like one shown on that picture.

He's more likely just using Ground Zero, a spell he actually has.

Man, it's awfully quiet

>>47702859
you're right it does get funnier every time it comes up

>>47702779
I feel like if electro was supposed to be a big sub-theme, we might have more than 1 model that does anything with it before now. It's about as much a COC sub theme as it is Ret with its new Vyre electromancers.

i'm disappointed with the conflux. Why would i ever take it over an axiom especially with cygnar's power increasing and their bunch of electric immunity? someone sell me on it

>>47703026
Cygnar won in terms of absolute power. Khador won in terms of most improvement. And Khador provides a lot of answers for Cygnar.

>>47703127
>betting on a crit effect even with Dark Guidance
my recommendation is: don't

>>47703811
i dont think beast is really worth it honestly for sorsha. you can get a shield guard for 10 pts less and casters with superiority do more for him. youre banking on the 1 turn of stationary too much

>>47703809
Zuriel's place is really with Lylyth2 now. Getting gunfighter to help quick work and another free spray (on top of an assault spray and likely at least 1 from quick work) is pretty clutch.

>>47703831
Angelius is still decent, the main reason for it in mk2 was really Vayl2 making it cheaper. a single one isn't that awesome even with the AP sting unless that sting is on a caster. ravagore got outright better with the aoe. so did teraphs - bigger aoe.

>>47703874
carni still amazing with abby2, its def the anti-heavy heavy, but scythean can still do that really well too. look for ways to improve his RAT and threat range like with the Seraph

>>47704740
too much infantry, not enough jacks.

>>47705527
yeah point seems to be especially vs warlocks. a POW 21 is going to hurt a warcaster something fierce, the follow ups are mostly for when the lock transfers the 21 onto a heavy.

I'm still not impressed

>>47705598
bc your colossal should be punching infantry? ok

>>47710054
>Angelius is still decent, the main reason for it in mk2 was really Vayl2 making it cheaper. a single one isn't that awesome even with the AP sting unless that sting is on a caster. ravagore got outright better with the aoe. so did teraphs - bigger aoe.
Decent or good? Because i sort of dont really like the aesthetics of that beast. What other casters in MK3 gonna want the Angelius?

>>47705720
Oh, shut the fuck up. She's fine. Bring a corruptor to heal yourself.

>>47707666
...No, the shocktroopers definitely needed the help more and have since mk1.

>>47709658
I like to think he was like the Incredible Hulk of Warmachine. Then he got too angry one day that people didn't want to be a part of Khador and lost his shit so hard that he exploded everything in the immediate vicinity, including himself.

>>47710135

It's more that Cygnar kicked his ass pretty hard. He was able to kill his opponents but lost all his limbs as a result and demanded a jack body afterward.

>>47709480
If you want that many infantry, you want a blightbringer. i'd lose the angel and scythean and shepherds and feralgeist for it.

thags does really nothing of note for an angel except bring it back. putting draconic blessing on it is per se worse than keeping it on spears or swordsmen.

plus with a BB, you can shoot your unit with DB on it to clear it from jamming

I swear my post is being swiped by someone, I ordered a bunch of shit this week and none of it has arrived. How the ever loving fuck am I supposed to work on a Minions army if the fucking models aren't here?

I think I need a new hobby, any one got any suggestions?

>>47710094
So in mk2, the uses for it were really Vayl2 tier and Saeryn/Lylyth3 for feating and using repulse to win on scenario.

Vayl2 point discounts are gone, Saeryn's feat got worse, I'm not sure Lylyth3 really wants one either, but repulse is still good.

Basically the angel is good if you can give it a buff and get a charge on a caster, or if you can give it a buff and watch it overtake through more than half of an infantry unit. One cannot kill a heavy on its own with just the AP, even at generally dice +5 (two can do a lot of damage, but thats a bigger investment).

Honestly the main reasons you took one in mk3 are gone. Take it now for scenario mostly, or if you can stack buffs on it or use debuffs (Incite, Draconic Blessing, Disintegration). The biggest limitation is the AP is the first hit only.

>>47710034
No? The chance of getting a crit on 4d6 is like 72%. Seems outrageously likely.

>>47709292
Stop being a fucking faggot. Take the models and put them on a shelf where they are safe. You don't need to jam your personal issues into other people's hobbies. Stop trying to force your sensitive little feelings into Warmachine, buy the damn models you need or proxy from the range you're playing with if it's a casual game and you can't get what you need yet.

It's a simple solution to a complex problem. But if you could solve complex problems you wouldn't be wanting to jam your 40k bullshit into another game because you can't handle that people die and those people may have bought you stuff at some point in time.

>>47709292
Keep the models in memory of her, also this guy is dead right.>>47710234

>>47710201
I thought something like it to be honest. Even considering repulse. After all, we can chew through infantry with Scythean and we got other beasts to kick other heavies' asses.
By the way which solos do i want as LoE player? Shepherds any good with their nerf? Or "filling the points" thing?
I am playing Khador atm and did not face a LoE player yet.

>>47710303
Shepherds, Forsaken, and Deathstalkers were are go to solos. The Grotesque assassin makes the Grotesque raiders pretty decent though.

is there more depth to maddox than just being ... lots of upkeeps?

>>47710365
He's also easily triggered by being called a cuckcold.

>>47710383
I see /pol/ is leaking again.

>>47710153
I thought he was put in a jack body against his will and he wishes he could have killed the doc who did it to him.

>>47710394
Back to tumblr with your hurt feelings.

>>47710394
like a prolapsed anus

>>47710409

No, he pointedly demanded a way to continue fighting for the Motherland.

>>47710394
I see your Tumblr leaking. Can't even take a joke. Next you will claim Hordes is a rape culture.

>>47710303
There is little more satisfying than an angel chewing through 5 croak raiders and then using Refuge (with mk2 Vayl2) to jam the rest into uselessness. Refuge is obviously gone but with the 2" melee it can still work ok. the angel has a greater longitudinal threat across the board to a unit than a scythean just due to overtake vs thresher. just very different roles there. an angel is a great assassin this game. the problem is whether its too expensive to hold in reserve like that. i generally think it is. but it can also hunt lights very well. most lights will be facing a dice +6 boosted AP charge on the first hit, and POW 14 is usuallyy enough to wreck them after that.

solos: 2 deathstalkers, 3 shepherds, 2 forsaken, and annyssa ryvall will go a long, long way. a totem hunter is also a great investment.

shepherds got worse, but legion is still going to run super hot. 3 shepherds can easily manage the fury of 2 ravagores because they do not at all need to be filled up every turn.

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>>47710383
Maddox is lady

>>47710365
Upkeep good shit, pop feat, charge, kill things. She's a battle box caster, she's not supposed to be overly complex

>>47710501
maddox has a great toolbox. fucking cygtard community mweh over every little thing is exhausting. no fucking gratitude and yet PP keeps blowing them

>>47710521
are you okay

>>47708295
>>47708418

Fixed.

>>47710234
Wow watch out we've got a badass over here. Also a skilled psychologist (not).
>>47710246
Its him not her, and i wanna use them.

>>47710000
So do we have actual Cygnar lists to demonstrate their "absolute power", or everyone still rubbing their dicks over Sloan's gimmick turn 1 kill?

new thread when.

>>47710605
You're basically the guy wearing a fursuit saying ACCEPT ME OR YOU'RE A BIGOT. Keep your own shit to yourself, don't push it in other people's faces which is what you're trying to do.

>>47710599

The filter doesn't catch the Cephalyx with a non-cephalyx warcaster.

The rhulic jacks and monstrosities are properly filtered.

>>47710599

You got this on github or something to submit bugs when you aren't on the 4chan?