/srg/ Shadowrun General- Renraku The Casbah Edition

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FIX A BOOK
Challenge for you, /srg/- Pick a book and fix it in as few steps as possible. I’ve got pictures of Hardy with 12-year-old Czech dickgirls, so I can get a second edition pushed through editing, but any big changes or things that are too sensible will alert the bosses that something is up. Let’s see if we can correct the whole run before they notice.
Howling Shadows
> Put in all the fucking price tables, indexed in the back
> Take away the drake ability to change cyberware magically, because it’s retarded and inconsistent with all other shifting
> Put a “Awakened From” line in the paracritter box text, so it’s immediately obvious what the base animal is and you don’t have to try and pull it from the horrendous fluff
> Give technocritters a power that lets them use their Resonance as a Limit for Matrix Actions, because as is they have huge skills but no limit due to shit mental attributes

What have you got?

>>47680774

Fuck filial piety. I am getting ALL THE TATTOOS just because of you.

1. What's an abrams lobster?
2. How does seafood hobo get into places? Just turn into a crab and lead his crab flock in, then turn into a human and rebandolier?

>>47680909
>>47680847
>the rules for that spell
>The subject can only assume the form of a critter whose base Body Rating is 2 points greater or less than her own.
SG 118

And it has to be a non-paranormal critter. You probably are going to need a Body of 3 or 4, I can't see a crab having more than a Body of 1 or 2.

>>47680868
Fuckhueg lobster, one of the few critters to make it to Howling Shadows, pg 52. Also has a Gestalt Consciousness, so making friends with one is making friends with many.

>>47680914
Well, on general principle a cop now would stop you for endangering animals or some BS. Corpsec gives no shit, they'll beat your ass if they think you're trying something. Hide them under your jacket, sneak yourself in through the back, go crashing through the front door on a motorcycle and start hucking crustaceans at anything that moves, all the regular ways runners get suspicious equipment into places.

>>47680796
> Make Pegasus Press the developer.

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>>47680906
Son no! What would the great Eternal CEO Aneki think if he saw you?

>>47680974
>you can't turn other people into animals (you can do it on yourself, though)

The Shapechange spell works on any voluntary subject. Critter Form too, though only into one creature.

Theoretically Crabman could turn himself and his whole party into crabs, sneak in through the airvents, and stop sustaining the spell when they're inside.

Everyone will be naked and unarmed, and the street samurai and decker will probably be dead because you can't shapeshift cyberware, but you could do it.

>>47681001

I already have pierced ears and a body permanently altered by feminizing hormones. I am already far far past the SHAMEFURU DISPRAY threshold.

>>47681075
Then OP has the answer for you.

>*Seppuku.sklchp

>>47680968
>>47680909
I just had a great idea.
What if you get the crabs past security be keeping them in a tank and calling them fresh food or acquarium buddies?

>>47681075
Horizon and Evo would love you, though.

>>47681151
Now you're starting to think like a Shadowrunner.

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>>47681161
Quit trying to extract my kids. They was born Renraku, They'll die Renraku.

>>47681177
>still calling them your children after they've dishonored and rejected the corp's culture.

>>47681075
>Not traveling to Sweeden for a full body biosculpting procedure

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>>47681200
It is my burden to bear. Their shame will forever stain our house, but we cannot disown them (legally). We'll just quietly obliterate all traces of their memory, never speak of them again, and work twice as hard to atone for the family's sins.

Maybe someday the kami will reward us for our diligent service by removing this shame from history.

>>47681099

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mWbMyfRS08&t=2h20m18s

>>47681271
>three hour long De Niro action flick

How have I never heard of this?

>>47681250
You can always send them to work in the UCAS or some other western nation full of degenerates.

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>>47681311
Wait, 2:30, I misread. Still, surprised I didn't know about it.
But why did you post that, >>47681271? Are you so lacking in reaction images that you don't have one for 'get out'?

>>47681321
>allowing my shame to go gallivanting around the world

If they showed contrition, I'd help them get a job as a mailroom clerk or something fitting their fallen state, but I won't allow them to parade their failings. Next thing you know they'll be getting Breast Implants 2.0 and bringing home orcs.

I hear a lot of people change the cyberware pricing, by how much is that usually?

>>47681364

1. It's called "Ronin", which is topical
2. It's about leaving instead of staying around and getting killed
3. "I never left" is a great line, I dunno.
4. I'm severely mentally ill so awkward jumbles of almost-logic like this make sense to me.

>>47681385
Most people do around 80-70% base price, but I'm the madman who does 50% base price.

>>47680993
Small changes, it said.

Also, are the Germans that good? Seems like they just translate, and maybe iron out a kink or two to make it fit the new language. Does PP do it's own games?

So, the the GMs out there: You have a session two hours after you finish work today. You were supposed to flesh out the run that the players accepted at the end of the last session. You did not, for a number of reasons and excuses that cover the whole range from 'was legitimately busy' to 'Hearts of Iron IV.'

All you have is a framework, and an incredibly vague idea of what they're after and what they'll face. Is that enough to fly with and hope the players don't notice?

>>47681739
Possibly. It depends on the kind of run, really.

Lean on some minor gang for the thing? Definitely enough.

Infiltrate a place? Possibly not, but could be.

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>>47681739
Take ten minutes.

Write down some hook that you've wanted to use in a run (some paracritter security, some weird layout, an unusual host, whatever). Extrapolate whatever the bare bones of that needs to be (does the critter need a big lawn to run around in, etc.)

Steal liberally from whatever the players say at the table about what they think it's like. They're going to be doing legwork this session anyways, right? Just hit up the binder if you need regular stats and wing it.

>>47680353
>>47680326
>>47680176
If you want to be boring and mundane again all you REALLY need to bunraku people is a commlink with hotsim module installed, a helmet with trodes in, and personafix chip.

>>47681739
When in doubt: Steal shit.
http://cityofheroes.wikia.com/wiki/The_Radio
City of heroes/villains has a ton of missions can just be lifted for ease. Like this one:

>You're listening to the radio you were told about as it plays top 40 hits from Tir na nOg, when a new announcer breaks into the middle of a song:

>'You may not know what you're hearing! You may think you're going crazy! But man-oh-man, even if you are crazy, that doesn't mean that you aren't really listening to the one true station for shadowrunner information: Radio!

>RADIO!

>RADIOOOOOOO! Free Opportunity! That's right, we are Radio Free Opportunity, home of the best information for chummers with the right inclination! We have a special dedication going out right now! According to our callers, those misfits called the Halloweeners have their hands on a hot new mystery drug that's been causing quite an outbreak over in Redmond. But what I want to know is, why should they get all the money? So, if you're listening, if you were to steal the new drug from the Halloweeners and deliver it to the drop off point out in Bellevue, that reward would be yours for the taking. Just keep an eye out for Knight Errant! They may be waiting to crash the party. Now, back to our music programming with some forgettable artist who no one will remember in a year.'

>The radio begins to play music again. You look around, but it seems as if no one else heard the announcer.

>The voice of 'Radio Free Opportunity' is quiet, but you remember what it said. If you steal the drug 'Outbreak' from the Halloweeners, then you can take it to the drop off points and take the money yourself.

Drugs, Gang hideouts, mystery about the Radio, threat of Knight Errant showing up: Easy, simple. No prepwork required.

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>>47680774

You guys ever run games as Corp Sec? or something similar?

>>47681739
If one owes a contact a favor, have that contact call in said favor.

>Yeah, that gun you purchased from me awhile back? The guys who owned it before you have been around the neighborhood, dissuade them from coming back

>Hey man, I think a rival mechanic has been undermining my supply lines. Can you look into it and deal with it for me?

>Hey man, I think that my company is noticing the explosives going missing around here. Can you doctor the paperwork and deal with the guys doing the investigation?

>>47682204
I've always wanted to run a game where the team is actually an anarchist cell, but I've got no idea where to start for doing such a thing.

>>47682257
What do you mean, you don't know where to start?

Should I use adept or prototype transhuman to best represent being of a new breed of humanity?
I'm trying to make a newtype

>>47682304
You want a human metavariant? Grab some metagenic powers and smash them together.

>>47682296
Well, the main issue is players.

But the other issue is how do you get a group of guys who've never met before to come together and form a cohesive anarchist cell? I'm not personally fond of starting off with a cohesive team, I like establishing the way in which everyone meets and decides that yes, they can put their lives in these other people's hands.

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>>47682372
Tell everyone to write a background that would lead them to anarchism, working with everyone else to establish which people are part of the same Neo-A collective, who is in an anti-corp vandalism collective, etc.

All the various groups come together for a big protest/push for freedom. All the players are in the same part of that (maybe they're building barricades together, as an act of solidarity). The cops show up, as expected, but they are acting super ruthlessly, killing and crushing instead of stunning and dispersing. All the players need to work together to get out of the tear gas with their lives and go to ground in a nearby basement (the area is cordoned off too heavily to force through).

A broadcast comes in from HQ. It's the various leaders of the collectives, led by that fringe paramilitary guerrilla. They announce that the counterrevolution has begun. Everyone within LOS is now part of your new cell, a security measure to protect everyone. Contact will be re-established with each cell as it becomes safe, but for now your only directive is to fight for freedom using any means necessary.

If your players have any experience with RPGs, and aren't complete assholes, they'll recognize an obvious set-up for a party when they hear it.

Using a past history makes much more sense when you want something as supposedly tight-knit as a secret cell of anarchists, but if you don't want it there's ways to adapt.

>>47682519
That's a really good idea, actually. Thanks anon.

Don't suppose there's any books that talk about the way these groups operate?

>>47682519
What the fuck are those pants meant to be?

>>47682621
Padded with gel, of course.

>>47682651

Gel packs: when you thought Sleeping Tiger line was not offensive enough.

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>>47682621
The Michelin Man is a symbol of corporate oppression. By tearing down his idols and repurposing them for the good of the people, we strike a blow for independence!

>>47682594
I don't know if there's a specific SR book on that. I'll take a look. The Montreal 2074 Sourcebook has a few different stripes of neo-anarchists in it, if you're looking for ideas on the kinds of groups.

How do you handle character death? Say one of your runners dies for real, and that player makes a new character. Do you give them more BP? Extra karma? Make them start at 400 all over again?

>>47682696
Sleeping Tiger is offensive?

>>47682204
I've played a procedural cop campaign before, it was pretty pink mohawk.

Right now we're in a Knight Errant shadow unit, which operates a lot like a runner team, we just get real SINs, access to decent facilities and some ammo.

There's definitely some fun to be had with the higher power level.

>>47682757
It's cultural appropriation and is basically only worn by white elven rappers.

>>47682776
see, the description in the book makes it seem like only orks PARTICULARLY interested in gang shit would even give a crap, and most people wouldn't even notice unless they had a gang or high fashion background.

>>47682757

Aesthetically, yeah.

Not really, and not according to its bonuses, but it's kind of a meme now how Sleeping Tiger will get you kicked out of anyplace where people expect a modicum of taste from you.

>>47682814
It's like being dressed in one of the better priced looking outfits in Yakuza.

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>>47682594
>>47682699
Here's an article on how terrorist cells work.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2001/09/how_do_terrorist_cells_work.html

It basically breaks it down into 3 groups
- Planning and support cells, usually less than 10 members, who focus on things like fundraising, procuring materials and intelligence and setting up safehouses
- Execution cells, who are brought in at the last minute to use the preparations of the support cell to do whatever it is they want to do (bomb a hospital, kidnap someone, etc)
- Operation commanders, who co-ordinate between the cells, and may or may not actually be present during the attack

These divisions change (one job's execution cell may be the next job's support cell), and that doesn't include things like sleeper cells, who may be activated to do any sort of role.

So you can have an NPC assume the role of operation commander and organize the PCs according to their skills. If they're a bunch of combat monsters, they're probably going to be primarily an execution cell, called in just before the job, given whatever legwork the planning cell did, and thrown out the door. More likely they'll get to play the roles of both support and execution cell over time- one day they are planting listening devices in a park, the next they're stealing a truck full of Lone Star equipment, then they're staging a brazen arson at an MCT lab. Keep the players guessing and uncertain about why they're doing things and what the end goal is, play up the lack of information- they don't know who the bugs were supposed to record, or where that equipment ended up, or what exactly was in all those sealed crates they were told to burn.

Also, I'm probably on a watchlist now, and not even for futaporn, so you better appreciate this.

>>47682757
no, that's pretty much just a meme based on exaggerations.

>>47682799
I've always assumed that even those who aren't part of the subculture being appropriated are angered for the same reason everyone hates white rappers: cuz it makes you look like an asshole.

>>47682875
The suit doesn't include pants at your ankles, a backwards cap, or a 40 of liquor, so I think it's completely safe from that.

>>47682833

Dunno, I'd say it's more like being dressed in something everybody and their aunt recognizes as the "So you wanna be tough guy, eh?" advert suit.

>>47682919
How the fuck does everyone and their grandma have ranks in high fashion?

>>47682940
They don't. But through cultural cachet, they just default on it and its rep. So that most people can recognize that something looks ''right' with their probably one success.

Probably couldn't tell it was a knock-off unless guns got brought into the equation, though.

>>47682962
With their one success, they'll be able to tell that... it's a suit?
Maybe with a few chains?

>>47682940

Heavy advertising. It might be custom fit, but it's also mass produced. Also, Baron von Evilstein wore it in 'Elven Bride' soap opera, as well as that one football player that's kind of an ass.

>>47682977
Not enough to get it the universal "that's OFFENSIVE" reaction that's become a meme here, anon.

>>47682849
Addendum- I don't know much about anarchism (though I recommend >>47682372 read about things like the Wall Street bombings, Haymarket Affair, and other anarchist attacks in the early 20th century) but I do know that anarchists loved robbing banks.

Fighting the power doesn't pay the bills, and there's an ideologically pleasing symmetry in stealing from the rich who steal from the poor so that you may fight the rich as the poor.

Also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clandestine_cell_system

Smartlink camera can take a modification, does camera magnification mean it counts as a scope for range penalties?

>>47683012

Oh no, I'm not talking about it being offensive, just tasteless (as in - you've had to dress well so you've picked that thing that was on TV) and/ or worn by annoying shitheads.

>>47683048
anon, everything except the top levels of society wears tasteless shit, we're cyberpunk.

>>47683065

Yeah, but this one is supposed to be worn (according to ads and so on) by jerkasses or stupid corpdrones that didn't pick up on it. There is also probably a difference between 'tasteless shit that you picked up somewhere and wear' and 'tasteless shit you've picked up to be trendy, but failed'.

Honestly, though, I'm just drawing this conversation out so that I don't have to go to sleep.

>>47683135
I will now ignore you then, since it is pointless to continue this discussion.

>>47683135
Talk to me about converting Spider mentor spirit from 4e to 5e then!

>>47683145

Shame

Have a good night's sleep/ good day's fun, then.

>>47683159
Go to bed, anon.
You need your sleep.
This is for your own good.

Does a Drone's Strength or Agility ever come into play for skill checks?

I know I can throw Agility and Strength enhancements on the limbs, but does that actually get me anything?

So a great dragon and two immortal elves walk into a bar.

The bartender assenses the great dragon, and says, "Hey buddy, I don't deal with dragons. Take a hike."

The great dragon grumbles and says "I could turn this entire establishment into a crater with a single word."

"Yeah, yeah. You could, but you're not going to. Get lost."

So the dragon mutters that it's all swill anyway, and leaves.

Then the first immortal elf walks up to the bar, and the bartender assenses him, and says, "Hey buddy, didn't you hear me? I don't deal with dragons."

Pure outrage lights up the elf's face. "I didn't choose my ancestry you fuck. They're no family to me. We were slaves to them, and the first thing I did when I escaped was try to kill my father. Who the fuck are you?"

"You were literally just in the company of a dragon, drekhead. Get out of my bar."

The elf's hand goes to his sword, but after a moment, he laughs creepily and says "I've had enough to drink for one lifetime anyway", and leaves.

Right now the bartender is getting tired, but he also feels energized because he just told off two of the most powerful beings in the sixth world and isn't dead (yet). Now the second immortal elf comes up to him, and she says, "Hey. Normally I would just leave, but I came a long way and I feel like I deserve a drink. I'm second generation. That means I'm only a quarter dragon by blood. Give me a double of your best whiskey and I'll see what I can do about making your death a merciful one."

The bartender takes a good long look at her, wrinkles his nose, and says "Well missy. You may not have much dragon in your blood, but based on the smell, you've got quite a bit in you regardless."

>>47683257
If you plan on doing Str or Agi based things with that drone's limb? Yes.

>>47683352

But as far as like, automatics shooting test, that's purely software?

>>47683347
Holy fuck

>>47683394
The software gives the skill. The Agi gives you a likely better than Pilot Agi.

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>>47683347

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Here, have a bump from your friends at ORO.

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>>47680796
I want to find out how someone would fix Data Trails. My only idea is, "Make Hardy suffer for allowing it to happen."

Couple more AI questions. I'm finishing this character slowly, but I want to make sure I understand:

-If I choose to start hacking, I can drop my god score by exiting and re-entering my device, or rebooting it? I understand an AI can't reboot itself/its' persona

-With Pilot Origins, and I'm jumped in, the skill checks on the drone becomes Depth+Applicable Adv. Program Autosoft+Applicable Drone Autosoft+3 from Pilot Origins, correct? (Additionally, can I give a drone a gun with smart link, and then give the drone itself smart link for another +2?)

Are there good places to discuss Shadowrun that aren't forums? e.g. IRC

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>>47685260
What, we're not good enough for you?

>>47683394
drones use pilot rating + autosoft if the weapon is bolted on.

if the drone is wielding the weapon using a cyberarm, it uses the arm's agility which is by default equal to the drone's pilot rating (but you can increase the agility of the drones cyberlimb and use that instead).

strength is basically the same. drones by default have strength equal to their body , and you can upgrade a cyberlimb for more strength up to double (so a body 5 drone could have a strength 10 cyberarm).

Mission Report: 26 August 2057

>>47685711
The building was there when I left; it was nothing but rubble when I got back. Questioned the crying ork in the center of the courtyard, kept going on about a huge troll called "Canada-san."

>>47685777
>Canada-san
[maple leafing intensifies]

sorry

>>47682204
I'm kinda running something close to that now

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>>47681364
Ohayou~! I'm here to see my fiancé! Our wedding is tomorrow!

Which is the best assault rifle and the best sniper rifle in best edition dps wise?

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>>47685951
>dps

Back to /v/ with ye.

>>47685951
backto>>>/v/

Just look at the damage code, big numbers are better

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Any suggestions for a resource that has a shitload of floor plans I can use on runs?

>>47685537

So if I'm jumped in and firing a gun through a drone, do I add my Hotsim bonus and control rig bonus? I notice under control rig it says "Vehicle actions", is using a gun on it (gunnery) a vehicle action?

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>>47686002
I use doorkickers for floor plans not really sure how others feel about it.

>finally staple together a cruddy little Fate conversion for SR
>run a sample milk run set in San Diego
>it's fun as fuck

!!!

>>47686093
I also use doorkickers, or I did when I had my roll20 game going. I wish there was a little more prop diversity, but I love the different textures and weathering.

>>47685951
Look at the damage code, then subtract the AP divided by three from it. So if it has a damage code of 10P and an AP of -3, then it does 11(10 -(-3/3)) damage on average before soak.

>>47686136
yeah there is not really "much" you can make with it I was able to make some woods along with some underground lab stuff along with streets but if you wanted to do stuff like a plane or a boat it gets harder unless its up on the wrokshop.

>>47686099
>SR
>Fun
Post this madness.

>>47686099
Have you looked at Nova Praxis?

>>47686002
Maptools, nigga.

>>47686455
I was hoping there is some boring website out there with corporate office blueprints or something but I can't really seem to find what i'm looking for

Is there a combo RCC Cyberdeck

Or am I just going to have to duct tape them together and spend excessive amounts of nuyen

>>47687865
Duct Tape.

Which Shadowrun edition (between 4 and 5) are the best for a DM and players who have never touched Shadowrun? Not trying to open a can of worms, just trying to figure out which one to actually give the effort into reading

>>47688382
If you're just starting, I'd go for 5e, but use the various cheatsheets and the Hayek sheets in the pastebin extensively, as the biggest problem with 5e comes when you need to look things up and the organisation gets in the way.

Guys, just found this.

ht tp://pl anner.roomsket cher.c om/#

Have fun!

>>47688427
Hayek sheets?

>>47688533
Link it normally, omae

http://planner.roomsketcher.com/

>>47688625
Oh, thought it would count it as spam.
Thanks!

>>47684806
Remove everything deep. Errata the gear/qualities. unfuck AI's.

Only the third is a challenge.

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>>47688614

They're a series of nice character and cheat sheets you can find in the mega in the pastebin under 5th Edition.

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I'm working on an (Ex?) Security officer with a small pack of trained, dogmented security hounds. Sort of like a low-tech rigger.

Can anyone throw me some character art that might work for that? I haven't decided on race or gender yet, since It took so long to decode the animal rules, so anything you think would make a nice houndmaster will work.

>>47688879
I have no fucking clue where I've looked through this thrice so far

>>47684864
- Simply moving from device to device is not enough. Like a meatbag hacker, the AI must sever their connection to the Matrix entirely for a moment. An AI drops their OS score by loading themselves on a device that can accept them (their home, their meatbag partner's comlink, a drone, whatever) and forcing said device to reboot while they're safely tucked inside.

- It's a little more complicated than that.
1) As attribute, you will use Depth. Unless your drone is equipped with a cyberlimb and the task at hand (hue!) can be done with the limb only. Then you can use the limb's AGI instead. (Like a meatbag with a souped-up cyberarm does.)
2) As skill rating you can either use your own rating (AIs have skill points and can learn things on their own) + any specialization and relevant advanced program. Or an autosoft you learned/that runs from the machine you're into + relevant advanced program.
3) You can use smartlinked weapon. Your drone doesn't need any extra gear like a meatbag (it's got sensors already), but you must run the "smartsoft" program from either your core or the chassis.
4) the 'control rig' only give extra dice for Vehicle skill tests, not all tests. See with your GM what he's willing to consider as such.

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>>47689176

Allow me to shove this spoon in your mouth.
https://mega.nz/#F!tVMnHQyY!4z_YL681Lrb_9kLWm-AvCQ!YdFUVTya

Seriously, though. The OP has a pastebin URL. The pastebin has a Mega URL. The Mega has a folder called 5th Edition. That folder has a folder called Hayek Sheets.

>>47689434
Why the hell would I think it was under the rulebooks?

Thanks though, anon, I appreciate it

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Question: Can you recieve your mentor spirit before you gain your tradition?

Typically traditions dictate how you see your spirits; but I was thinking about going with the route of the mentor spirit showing up and going 'Yer a wizzard, chummer!'

That being said, what form would they take?

>>47689508
Sure. A Spirit taking some interest in a freshly Awakened meatbag that has no idea what they're doing yet is perfectly possible

>>47689508

Technically yes, since Mentor Spirits can teach the magical arts to a character. It's basically a story point whether you were taught the tradition by the Spirit (sharing its worldview) or whether your worldview attracted that particular spirit to teach you.

Remember that the attraction between Shaman or Mage and a Mentor Spirit is both ways - each recognizes something they appreciate in the other.

>>47689361
>Smartsoft is a rating 3 Autosoft
>For that much capacity, you can simply get +3 to the firearm instead of the +2 from smartlink

Am I misunderstanding drone capacity or is that correct

Is the fact it's 3 for +2 the idea that you could run it on your RCC and give multiple drones different kinds of smart guns instead of having to burn capacity on multiple guntype autosofts? (I.e, I have drones with Predators and drones with Alphas, but instead of running two separate Autosofts for those guys I can just run a single smartsoft for a bit more)

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>>47689556
>>47689576
Thanks.
Now to find a picture for Spider that doesn't look like a Spider due to bug spirits and junk.

How possible is it for a spirit to merge with technology? Could tech spirits exist, or is this very much an impossibility?

>>47689715
Tech and magic are highly incompatible. They are essentially invisible to each other. Sprites are about as close as you're gonna get.

>>47689583
>Am I misunderstanding drone capacity or is that correct

That is correct, but the Targeting Autosoft and the Smartsoft add up. The idea is to run both.

This will be difficult on individual drones that have at very best 3 program slots. But as you surmised, that's where the RCC comes in.

>can I just run a single smartsoft for a bit more
Unclear. Rigger 5 goes to lengths to remind everyone all autosofts are drone-specific. Yet the targeting autosoft is normally weapon-specific. And a smartlink can be added to any weapon regardless.

In short, no fucking idea.

>>47689715

There are plenty of Spirit types that could deal with Technology - City Spirits, Spirits of Man, Task Spirits.

Of course they will do things in a magical way, but they can deal with technology, just like there are spells that interact with tech, like physical mask and such.

What is a limit, is that Spirits cannot interact with the Matrix or Wireless links, so their interactions with technology are limited in the modern age.

Turning on the TV or changing channels like a poltergeist? No problem. Disrupting visual sensors or using illusions? Causing drones to fail by use of the Accident power? Sure.

Spirits cannot enter the matrix, download files, update your firmware or protect your stuff from intrusion by a hacker using a wireless link.

Merging with tech? Well, yes. You can prepare a vehicle for use for a familiar as a body, for example, causing it to become a sentient car. So it can be done. Will it be useful? That depends on how much use you'd have for the merged whole.

>>47689744
Well

what about mechanical tech?

Simple machines, some moving parts here adn there, but nothing too complex.

>>47689744
Hm. Then I'll need to find an alternative. My idea was basically that there's something trapped on Mars, and it ate EVO's Gagarin base (it transfers itself into tech, eats it up, and takes it for the hive.) It then proceeded to be discovered by an Ares station who have made a deal with it to basically let it return to Earth in exchange for helping them fuck up their competitors. (Whether either side will hold up to the bargain has yet to be seen)

I just have no idea what it should BE now. An old super AI? Aliens (though that'd mean I have no idea why they want to go to earth?)

>>47689750

Another rigging question, then:

A drone can fit a number of autosofts equal to 1/2 it's device rating rounded up. Am I correct in assuming that you can only fit that total rating in there? i.e, for a drone with a device rating of 3, I can either fit 1 rating 2 Autosoft, or 2 rating 1 autosofts?

Or am I wrong and I can have 2 Rating 2's?

>>47689759
C-Can you order a spirit to download the newest trid of Trolls gone wild?

Like, how does a spirit even begin to *react* to that?
"Sorry, I can't do that?"
Makes hilariously bad attempts to interact with the computer?
Brings you the server where TGW is stored?
Berates you for having shit taste?

>>47689800
You can run Autosofts up to the drone's Pilot rating in each slot. Higher rating autosofts must be run from the RCC.

For instance, an Aztech Crawler (base Pilot of 4) has 2 slots (DR = Pilot, 4/2 = 2). Each slot can contain an autosoft up to rating 4.

>>47689800
>>47689842
clarification: a drone's device rating is equal to its pilot rating

>>47689817

Depends on the power level and intelligence of the spirit (Force).

A Force 1 Spirit would probably flop around helplessly trying to figure out what TGW even is.
At Force 3-5 it might tell you that it cannot, but it might tell you how to download it yourself. Or it might use some form of control power on your commlink to initiate the download.
At force 6 it might bring you the physical server, and likely the network security team on its heels.
At high enough Force and Intelligence it might decide to mentally control or bully a hacker into downloading it and dropping it in an anonymous file drop-off for you to pick it up.

In no circumstance could a spirit enter the wireless or matrix, so it still could not actually download it for you.

Bonus points:

"C-can download the newest trid of Trolls gone wild?" with the spirit proceding to create an illusory full-3d and LOUD representation of the entire show until you order it to stop and waste your services.

>>47689777
Or maybe I could handwave it as a unique type of spirit and just go for rule of fun/cool instead of sticking to strict canon, especially since no one in the group has played Shadowrun

>>47689768
The more complex it gets, the harder it is to interfere. check out the object resistance table.

>>47689777
AI/rogue sprite makes sense, aliens seems weird for Shadowrun, but you've read about what was found on Mars? Dragon skellingtons and the like? There's some solid hooks there you might be able to mine. Depending on how much you want to fuck with lore, it could even be a new type of insect spirit that can interface with tech. After all, sprites are new in this mana cycle, insects should get something new too.

>>47689777

It doesn't have to be a spirit in order to be some form of mechanical consumer. If the Gagarin base was researching nanomachines, their programming could've become corrupted due to a solar storm or other cosmic effect, with the result that they start hardwiring machines and drawing all the technology together for some unfathomable programmed purpose (like creating an enormous sattelite uplink or whatever).
This also means that they are going to consume and convert technology that is required to keep people alive - tough deal, chummer.
Bonus points if the main source of the nano hive is a lead researcher whose body holds one of those nano-hives, being the only person kept alive actively by the system.

That might give the PCs a hint where to look - it's the only place with power, light and an active soycaf dispenser.

>>47689777
I'd suggest homebrewing something like insect spirits, but instead of inhabiting people, they inhabit tech. It wants to go to earth for the same reason bug spirits would: more stuff to infest.
Failing that, I'd go for an AI developed by super advanced martians who were killed by the Horrors. It wishes to increase the processing power available to it, which would in turn require it to go to earth to get more power.

>>47690028
I really like this idea, thanks! Also, somehow I got trips on my first post and dubs on the reply, so I am now adamant that this is a good idea

>>47690028
I just got a thought. What if the lead researcher is dead in all but body? He's basically a corpse puppet being held up and used by the nanoswarm as a flesh body. Still walks, still talks, not remotely human.

>>47690201
More likely trapped as a sentient soul inside a body controlled by a swarm of nanomachines. Addled with neural stimulation, he might think he's going through an average work day - drink coffee, hit buttons, have lunch, sleep - but is doing the nanomachines' work.
PCs might detect his mental activity, might see a shuffling body in a dirtied white coat, and might use spells or tech to try and snap him out of it.
Imagine his horror when he has a whole nano-hive growing out of his body.

>>47690225
Don't forget when he realizes all his coworkers are in the closet waiting for their bodies to be of use to the colony

Could nanohives be reasoned with? Or are they way too alien to listen to what puny humans have to say if it's not related to completing their goal faster?

>>47690252
Unless the hive somehow achieves AI-like processing power and awareness, no, they'd simpy be tools for their programming. They do what they do to achieve their goals. They cannot be reasoned with unless they somehow were programmed that way (unlikely) or somehow got awareness from consuming the base's home social computer and thus gained the ability to relate (akwardly) through that.

>>47680796
Run faster.
Remove the choice of Strain II for runners.
Actually make infected fit the new fluff ( virus is changing, infected can go to frenzies when hungry, modular powers )
Remove attention who're qualities ( Tough and targeted, Wanted etc), or make them require explicit GM approval.
Put actual text explaining how shapeshifters work. Remove that silly rule of raising animal and human attributes differently .
Add lifestyle cost modifier to the naga.
Reduce the costs of SURGE I and II, make all classes ncompatible with infection.

>>47690300
>hive absorbs one of the crewmember's stashed Japanese porntrids
>tries to 'service' the infiltrators like all good maids do

>>47690300
That sounds interesting. By the time the Runners have actually gotten through the Ares base and are preparing to head to Gagarin, it turns out that the nanohive have become intelligent and are now way too uncanny valley to allow to live, even if they're way more reasonable now (atleast with the collective info from Ares, info from the lab, and the nano remains, you could probably make a solid several mil if you marketed this shit to someone like Saeder-Krupp correctly)

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Anyone see any harm in backporting this from 5e to 4e?

>>47690201
Might be fun if the nanoswarm puppets the body and pretends to still be him when he meets the team, only to set them up for the inevitable betrayal.

So, on the topic of the nanites, how could an intelligent nanoswarm interact with the Matrix? Could it take over the entire server and work it how it wants, or would that be outside its capabilities?

>>47690528
Additionally, would the Matrix work in space?

>>47690528
Go read the appropriate pdfs.

Stormfront, Boston Lockdown, etc.

>>47690552
Isn't Storm Front shit, though

>>47690541
Yes, but "Noise due to distance to target" takes on a whole other dimension here.

Even with the mightiest transmitters, the data pulse cannot go faster than light. Earth-Moon already has an approx. 2,5 second "lag" due to distance alone. Earth-Mars would be much much worse.

>>47690565
Protip: stop being a lazy cunt.

>>47690586
That has nothing to do with what I asked and you know it

Quick question from a rookie: If my character is a SINner how hard is it to mask the real SIN with a fake?

>>47682703
Take the total karma earned, divide by 2, add to the 400 BP
So if the party has gotten 20 Karma on average then the new player gets 10BP more

>>47690591
The information you are looking for is right in front of you. Eat it yourself.

>>47690528
Again, depends on its programming. Nanites designed to create an information bridge would be more capable than if it was designed to create a space barge. Unless changed, nanites cannot go beyond their programming. If they become aware (so an AI swarm basically) then you might stretch this definition and they might be capable of accessing the net through wireless (cold) links. They cannot Run Hot, so they'd be basically limited to cold or text interface, to reduce lag to its minimum. Once nanites gain some form of awareness, though, they would be able to program agents and send them over, further reducing lag issues - but without ability to change based on countermeasures or unforseen circumstances.

>>47690596
Very easily. You just don't broadcast the real one and broadcast the fake.

The real problem of having a genuine SIN is that there is a lot of data about you 'somewhere', and that even if your fake SIN gets accepted, the scanner could come up with a "potential match" on your real ID, which could bring you into trouble. Also, any misdeed where you leave genetic evidence (blood,...) can be backtracked to your real one provide the one doing the backtracking has access to the data.

>>47690613
Thanks, omae!

>>47690541
The grid in space would work if they were in range of the comms of the base.

>>47690408
T-THE POLITO FORM IS DEAD, INSECT. ARE YOU NOT AFRAID?

YOU ARE NOT AFRAID. W-WHY ARE YOU LAUGHING? T-THIS WAS SUPPOSEDTO BE A, A VERY SCARY MOMENT ACCORDING TO THE QUOTES PAGE. W-WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU'VE PLAYED THE GAME ALREADY?

W-WHAT DO YOU MEAN, THE DASHES AREN'T SU-SUPPOSED TO INDICATE A SHY STUTTER?

>>47690662
Oh god, that kills me. All the researchers had nothing but old trids and tridgames to keep them company while on Mars. AI Swarm eats it and decides this is standard operating protocol for sentient creatures.

>>47690632
Kinda figured that last part already. Gotta wear a mask when on a run and beware of leaving behind blood samples.

I was just wondering if turning off the real SIN was easy or if it needed some kind of jammer. (I mean, why would they make it something that can be easily turned off? What legal reasons could the average Joe-Sinner have to go dark?)

>>47690695
TO GET BY, YOU MUST RETRIEVE THE *RED* KEY. IT IS NEXT TO THE K10 BESERKER PACK.

>>47690790
It's easy, because it doesn't need to be hard. Not broadcasting a SIN is bothersome enough in civilised areas.

Joe Wageslave won't go dark while he's on his wageslave business. Because if he does, he will have a police patrol on his back asking what the fuck he's doing there, why he isn't broadcasting his SIN and why he turned it off in a matter of minutes.

>>47690790
Basically, it's not strictly illegal everywhere to not broadcast a SIN, but it's suspicious as hell and basically illegal in the sense that a cop that pulls you over is going to find something to charge you with for wasting their time.

And if you're in a corp and dark, good luck ever getting anything expensed while you were not broadcasting, being though of as shirking work, and so on.

how rare are alpha/beta/delta clinics and how much pull would you need to get cyberware in one. could I go to DocWagon for surgery and if so how high of a grade.
also can Spurs be weapon foci? how does critical strike and penetrating strike work with them if at all

>>47690915
Alphaware-grade is easy to find, even illegally in a street doc's hangout. Beta is a lot trickier, and there are only a dozen or so deltaware clinics across the world.

>could I go to DocWagon for surgery
Probably not. Their business is saving people's life, not rebuilding them.

>can Spurs be weapon foci?
Yes.

>how does critical strike work
Spurs (like all cyberarm-implanted weapons) use the Unarmed Combat skill, so you take Critical Strike for Unarmed Combat and get +1 DV with them.

>penetrating strike
Spurs get 1 extra AP per rank of the power.

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How would you go about creating an XCOM-style ability tree for Shadowrun?

Serious question, I need help with this.

>>47691061
You'd need to class it out, first of all. Having every tree available to every player is gonna either lead to some strange-ass combinations or to new players getting angry at the complexity. Five available trees per character seems to work: Two universal ones, two based on archetype/class, and two based on race.

Another option is to do one per SKILL, with bonuses like specialisations being available. Say, in the Heavy Weapons one, you get the ability to ricochet grenades around corners at no penalty, instead of the minus four such a trick shot would give normally.

>>47691119
>two based on race
Really? Race can't be nearly as mechanically important as class.

>>47691141
If you go to extremes like troll or pixie, it does. Some things are just plain easier (or harder) to do when you're an over 8 feet pile of tough bone and muscle or a flying 15-inch tall Tinkerbelle.

>>47691170
Fair, but can you really think of 12+ unique skills for a pixie ability tree?
It'd be simpler to have race affect stats only and leave the ability trees for class or weapon type stuff.

>>47690902
>>47690873
>>47690790
Basically, Joe wageslave has disincentive to turn their shit off. When they're in a private area or have reason to not want to be bothered, however, they will run silent. This prevents them being bothered by conversation, ads, etc - contrary to being seen as slacking, it can be seen as focusing. (possibly even on work)

>>47690915
You can walk into a corp clinic and find most non restricted alpha ware available off the shelf. Beta usually requires registration. Delta is 'tens of places in the world' rare, and has to be built custom while you're being operated on.

>>47691262
Honestly, for Joe Wage it's better to just put up an ARO that says 'napping/concentrating do not disturb' and attach it to their persona.

That way they're not taking a -2 penalty for no real gain unless a runner team has just gotten in 100m of 'em.

Because all the in house personae can still see the guy and taking a hide action isn't an option for most wageslaves.

>>47691141
I originally was gonna say five and forgot to not change that to one based on race, but as >>47691170 said, I can see why the unusual races might have two. Maybe have a sixth empty slot that you can, if you're not one of the odd races, put one from another archetype's list into. So, if you were a human decker and street sams had "Guns" and "Melee", you could take the "Guns" tree and be a decker that could shoot.

>>47691340
Six, not five. I need sleep or coffee.

>>47691316
>Honestly, for Joe Wage it's better to just put up an ARO that says 'napping/concentrating do not disturb' and attach it to their persona.
running silent is explicitly called out in 4e.

>>47691396
Any idea where? Because while I haven't used 4e in a while, the closer equivalent to what I was talking about doesn't exist if you're not running a 12R program, and I'm not going to run over a few possible different sources for the same name but different version in 4e.

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>>47688798
>Remove everything deep.
What do you mean? The Resonance Realms stuff?

>Errata the gear/qualities
Any ones in particular that are egregious?

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>>47690309
Those all sound like good ideas. Question about this one, though.

>Remove the choice of Strain II for runners.

Why? It would be weird to have an infectious disease that doesn't infect the PCs. I get that they're powerful, but if you're making the Infected fit the new fluff then their weaknesses also jump up.

>>47691012
>>could I go to DocWagon for surgery
>Probably not. Their business is saving people's life, not rebuilding them.

What? DocWagon is a full medical corp. They're most famous for pioneering armed response teams, but they own and operate plenty of hospitals throughout the world, and have for decades. In Anchorage and other places, they are the only medical provider of any kind, due to exclusive contracts with the city.

>>47683347
I don't get it

>>47691061
>Classes
STREET SAMURAI
Cyberware | Firearms | Melee
MAGICIAN
Mage | Shaman | Adept
TECH
Decker | Rigger | Technomancer

>Weapon Types
HEAVY WEAPONS
Rifle | LMG | Sniper Rifle
LIGHT WEAPONS
SMG | Shotgun | Pistol
MELEE WEAPONS
Bladed | Blunt | Unarmed

>Misc
TACTICS
Offensive | Defensive | Support
SPECIALIZATION
Face | Stealth
EQUIPMENT
Biotech | Explosives

Thank me later.

>>47691612

Implies Frosty is fucking someone with draconic ancestry, which is true (Harley), although the bartender probably technically doesn't know that, so he may think she's fucking both Harley and Lofwyr, or either.

>>47691660
>three options for every section
>except the last two
are you trying to fucking trigger me

>>47691486
Deep runs and all that nonsense. Resonance Realms as the pendant of metaplanes for technomancers, why not. But just like said metaplanes, it's fluff/only comes up when a TM submerges.

As for the gear, finally clarifying what and what cannot run on/be done to a commlink/RCC/deck would be nice.

>>47691660
>Cyberware | Firearms | Melee

I want it all.

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>>47691660
>>47692477
And you should have it all. 'Cyberware' by itself isn't a specialization on par with Firearms or Melee- Cyberware is what makes you better at those two.

You could split it up into
Razorgirl | Ronin | Gunbunny

Which gives you a superfast rip&tear, a measured fighter about precision strikes, and a bulletstorm, respectively

>>47692237
Me too.
How about
>>47691660
SPECIALIZATION
Face | Stealth |Surveillance
EQUIPMENT
Biotech | Explosives | Drones

(I know rigger is under tech, but you can have a crossover into some of the lesser drones, right? No Lynxes, but a Flying Eye wouldn't go amiss)

>>47692550
>>47692477
>>47691660
I was about to snatch that tree, but now I'm conflicted.
I'm going to be using this skill tree system for some Shadowrun newbies, how can I make Razorgirl/Ronin/Gunbunny more immediately comprehensible?
And how do I minimize overlap between the Samurai trees and the weapon type trees?

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Gonna share my campaign building details for some possible corrections and advice.

Trying to set up a Redmond story, where party will be inexperienced and getting into the world of shadowrunning per se. First task they'll be getting is to teach some random gangers a lesson because they broke into one of his apartments and stole some memorabilia. Then is goes uphill with a mission or two of small-scale office / research hub assault. Then a local night club dancer needs their help because her acquaintance because her friend is addicted to BTL and is being held on some gang's territory don't judge me, this mission was nice in SR:R.

Eventually the party will come into confrontation with gang X, one way or another. BBEG I have in mind is gang's warboss who died on his trip to SSH and got possessed by a master shedim (not sure the scale isn't too high here tho). So he coup d'etat's leadership and starts to expand his business, eventually aiming to conduct a large-scale astral rift ritual at an abandoned stadium on the turf; the final run will be infiltration and assasination, and if party fails Metroplex guard or some megacorp will just bomb all drek out of the place.

The hard part I'm getting is to create lots of believable NPC who will be possible to relate to. And all in all, compared to D&D amount of details is way bigger.

Starting rules I'm going with are sum to 10, magic and resources no higher than C, physadepts with no higher than 4 magic, magicians with no higher than 3. Availability 10, starting lifestyle capped at Low. 'fraid 120k money as C priority won't already be looking too street-y in game, but still researching setting's economy to build a more vivid picture, etc.

These things really helped:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Shadowrun/comments/35ma0j/what_does_an_archetypical_shadowrun_campaign_look/cr5vfjn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Chtf6dwk2ww

>>47692705
>his apartments
local slumlord

>>47692159
I still don't get it, where did Frosty come from?

>>47692763
Well, when a mommy and daddy get together in bed....

She's the second immortal elf in the joke. Offspring of an immortal elf and all that jazz.

>>47692680
Surveillance?

>>47692804
Seems I've come down with aspergers, pls explain joke in detail

>>47693490
The first character to get turned down is Lofwyr, a full Greater Dragon, because the barman doesn't want to deal with dragons.

The second character to get turned down, Har'Lea'Quinn is an immortal elf (read: a half-dragon, the result of a dragon and an elf going at it). See above, barman wants nothing to do with dragons and their get.

The third one protests that (unlike the other immortal elf) she's but the daughter of two immortal elves and has no direct link to dragons, nor does she wants anything to do with them. Since she's the current paramour/fucktoy/... of aforementioned 'half-dragon', the barman tells her she has "more dragon in her than she thinks". Geddit?

>>47693585
I comprehend this joke! It was not so funny

>>47693613
Fuck off Harlequin

>>47693731
I'm imagining an avalanche of comments like that being what lead to the ban of poetry slams.

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>>47692693
Bear in mind that I have no idea how X-COM works, whether you are trying to use this just to explain archetypes or whether you plan some unholy homebrew.

But assuming the former, you could explain it through qualities.

>The Razorgirl gets qualities like Adrenaline Surge, Pain Resistance, Daredevil, and Uncouth. They're fast, they're loud, they'll pick a fight because they love fighting, they're D&D barbarians.

>The Ronin gets things like Guts, Perceptive, and Code of Honour. They're reserved, careful, have specific rules that they follow, but they're driven and trustworthy, and if they take a job they'll get it done hell or high water. They're D&D paladins.

>The Gunbunny gets Hawk Eye, Jack of All Trades, Black Market Pipeline, and Emotional Attachment. They've got all the gear for any task, and if they can bring the tools to bear they can wipe the floor with most anyone. They're D&D classic fighters, or blaster casters for you kids.

>>47693278
It was meant as a counterpoint. Faces confront people socially and get what they need that way. Infiltration (what I meant to change Stealth to) get into places physically and get what they need that way. Surveillance doesn't confront anyone - they quietly shuffle things around and do the legwork so that they get all that they need without anyone knowing they were involved.

>>47693585
>Har'Lea'Quinn

Why did you have to remind me of that? I'd almost forgotten that specific bit of retarded fluff.

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>>47693873
>Bear in mind that I have no idea how X-COM works, whether you are trying to use this just to explain archetypes or whether you plan some unholy homebrew.
I'm planning an unholy homebrew. The combat plays identically to XCOM but the setting is Shadowrun, essentially. Some of the trees will mostly be composed of XCOM-style abilities, while the rest will be original Shadowrun abilities.

>>47694341
So are you using the board game?

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>>47694407
No, just a very, very heavily coded Roll20 game.

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>>47694459
Wow.

OK then, have fun. Post a PDF or something if you finish making the rules.

>>47691589
Not just that, but Docwagon has its own lines of ware and its own medical research.

People need to remember a big AA is still big. It might not be diversified like a AAA, which has a finger in every pot, but a big AA is akin to something like today's Google or Amazon or Bayer. And they make use of that extraterritoriality too.

>>47694611
> It might not be diversified like a AAA

Not even that. The difference between an AA and a AAA is a seat on the corporate court.

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>>47694611
Plus I'm sure they own medical schools of all stripes outright, not to mention having attractive high-school-level programs in biotech to pull in as many possible recruits.

>>47694708
Offically, and in some cases of relatively small AAAs (Horizon) and relatively large AAs (Universal Omnitech, Proteus AG, Monobe, Zeta-ImpChem) it may be accurate, but most AAs are more narrowly focused than most AAAs. To get AA you need to have a strong multinational presence, but you don't necessarily have to diversify into all the industries that AAAs have a toe in, thanks to their Court seat given them leverage in decisions like who can get a monopoly where and who can buy out how much of another corp.

Most AAs, like the Atlantean Foundation, Lone Star, DocWagon, Lockheed, and Ford focus on doing one thing (or one network of related things, like medical care, policing and incarceration, or making planes) and doing it well internationally. They diversify a bit, but they still have a core industry they focus on.

>>47681441
They are ok and seem pretty knowledgeable about the flaws of the game.
Their editing is definitely better and what I've heard in a workshop at a convention was promising.
They plan to release a new Germany in the Shadows book soon, don't know if that will ever be translated, though.
I've talked with the chick that is in charge of Shadowrun stuff for Pegasus in Germany and she seemed very dedicated and shared my frustrations about the abysmal editing of CGL, so at least German Anons can hope.
Can't remember everything about that talk because I've had quite a few meads by then.
Positive impression tho.


They don't have original RPGs, they have some tabletops and card games.
They're known for Cthulhu, SR and Munchkin here.

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Is there a way to make magic arrow heads in 4e like there is in 5e?

I must be blind cause I don't see it.

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>>47695430
Alchemy, Contact Trigger.

>>47680774
Is there a plain English condensed version of the Shadowrun rules that isn't the quickstart rules?

I want to run a campaign with a rigger and a mage in the party but the core rulebook is, to be charitable, a complete fucking mess and the rules are opaque as all hell. Please tell me there's a version of the matrix combat, magic and so on with all the stupid crap cut out.

>>47696140
The Superbook, in the pastebin.

And the Hayek sheets for organization in-session.

>>47696178
Oh thank. Fucking. God for that. Thanks a lot for pointing that out, you're a life saver.

>>47696272
No problem. I only found out about the Superbook recently on Redditwhile looking up minmax advice and only just talked to Hatefish and got it into the pastebin in the past couple weeks.

>>47691550
It's because by Fluff, Strain II are almost always batshit insane, except Loup-garous. I suppose that the changes it the virus would have intensified that.

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>>47696479
There are qualities for representing insanities, and at that point is up to the GM to enforce proper roleplay.

Though I would love a rule that says, upon infection, you roll 1d6. Anything but a 6, your character goes irrevocably insane and is immediately removed from player control.

And that anyone who tries to build a non-ghoul infected at chargen has all their dice taken away for a period not less than sixty (60) days.

>>47696620
>And that anyone who tries to build a non-ghoul infected at chargen has all their dice taken away for a period not less than sixty (60) days.
Look I just want to play a vampire who is really happy about being one. He dresses like dracula and shouts BLEIGH a lot.

>>47696883
Then take Negative Quality: Count von Count Poser.

>>47691660
Any other clever suggestions on a third option to add to the Specialization and Equipment trees? It's the only thing I'm still stuck on.

>>47696620
Anon, that is clearly a Harverster.

>>47697229
I thought that the colouring was his fluffy pelt, but looking closer it appears to just be greyish skin with tufts of hair. Certainly has the ears to be an elf, though I always thought that harvesters had really huge mouths just stuffed full of teeth.

You're probably right, I mislabeled that.

Negative quality: Human (Elf poser) poser.

Do you think my GM will allow me to get away with this?

I'm launching a shadowrun actual play podcast in the near future (probably Septemberish). We're lucky in that one of our players is a professional sound designer for film, so he's gonna be taking our audio and adding in background ambiance, some music, sound effects, the works. We got to thinking the other day, wouldn't it be great to have some advertisements for megacorps and products in the podcast, to help break up the show a little and cut between scenes?

I'm writing some of these ads myself, but if any of you have a clever idea for a radio ad for something in world, we might record it and add it to the podcast (and have a separate mp3 if you want to use them in your own games!). These could be for anything, movies, guns, commlinks, grids, games, Docwagon, Nerps, Lonestar contracts/crime hotlines, whatever you can think of.

>>47697693
Horizon: we know what you want.
Download the new lonestar app to your comlink! Report suspicious persons from the safety of your home.
Docwagon. Because when the time comes, do you really want to take a chance?

>>47697666
Only if you play ork.

>>47696178
Speaking of the Superbook, could some kind anon upload it to tg here? My phone browser won't load mediafire or mega, and i'm terribly bored at work and I really need to brush up on spirit theory and rigging before saturday but the core book makes me want to commit suicide.


sorry

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>>47697693
BOOM

BOOM

CRASH

That's all it takes for a burglar to break into your house with the intent to rob and kill you.
Why don't you own a gun?

Brought to you by Ares.

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It is bloody sad that fenno-scandinavia hasn't gotten much love in SR universe. 6th world almanac does help a little, but otherwise not much. Scandinavia in Shadows is neat fanmade book, but feels like author is wanking on muh success breeds jealousy. Especially Finland feels empty as fuck.

>>47697693
>You're jolted awake at night by a crash. It's in your living room! Before you can even turn on the lights, an intruder opens your bedroom door! Can you protect your family? Do you have your Predator?

>Defend your castle. Ares Predator V, now available at a Weapons World near you! Smartlink compatible, thermal imaging scope optional, certain restrictions and licenses may apply, see Ares Arms host for details. Stay safe, stay armed. Ares Arms.

>>47697868
Finland's having, as I've understand it, quite a fucking lot wild forest so it should be shock full of paracritters.

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>>47697892
I'd replace Predator with Light Fire 70, personally. The Light Fire is much more of a civilian-grade firearm, the former always seems like a military/runner weapon. People prefer a cheaper weapon to muh stopping power.

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>>47697978
Sure, if you need a gun for your purse. The Predator is the only pistol for a real man.

>>47697954
But wouldn't that be fun, outside cities and fortified towns there is only paracritters, Saami insurgency and local hillbillys.

What wiki says that Finland is Mono-corporate Parliamentary Republic. How the fuck does that even work? NEONet deciding who gets to run into Parliament? Would be better if there was normal Parliament system and all citizens with SIN are allowed to do so. Corporates would have power in Parliament by sponsoring and lobbying MPs toward direction they want or something.

>>47697978
Must agree.

>>47698003
Bu-but muh well r-regulated m-militia! Think about the orc children!

Do you think there is gungrabbers in UCAS?

>>47698080
>Do you think there is gungrabbers in UCAS?

How do you think Ares got to be a AAA?

>>47695474
Is this not in core? I don't see it.

>>47698080
Presumably, but they probably don't have much political capital because it's in Ares's interest for guns to be a big thing, and in the interest of megacorps in general for Shadowrunning to be possible.

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>>47698149
Then you're dumb. 304-05.

Also, if you plan to use a bow, don't use regular arrows for anything but enchanting. Explosive for straight killing, hammerheads for non-lethal, and Incendiary for when you want to kill a group from 200 meters out. You're worse than bullets if you do anything but max STR and play Green Arrow.

>>47697693
>Annoyingly cheerful J-pop plays as the scene settles on a picturesque 2d beachscape. A distant explosion erupts. A male voice can be heard to scream in frustration
Coming this autumn, experience a magical world populated by girls that like to live life on the edge!
>A small teenage girl appears, cheerfully walking down a street in a generic schoolgirl uniform. She's got a small smile on her face>>
Meet Predator-chan, your good old UCAS gal! She's cheerful, friendly, and she's brand new in town!
>As the girl continues walking down the street, an arm appears from out of frame to grab her in a neck lock, pulling her close. The arm is revealed to belong to a taller blond girl, wearing a grin on her face>>
Fortunately, she's got friends already waiting for her! Friends like Alpha-chan, cheerleader for Predator's new school!
>The duo is joined from the other side by a tall, incredibly athletic tomboy, sporting a fierce grin
And HVAR-san, the tomboy !
>Flashes of various other girls pass by the screen. A tall skinny girl engrossed in a book. Two twins dashing down a hallway, comically pulling off a 'stealth' maneuver. A girl boxing at a punching bag>>
These two and many more friends await Predator at her new school! But it's not all fun and games, for these three hide a special secret!
>Shots of the 3 named girls flashing in the traditional anime transformation sequence. Cat ears and tails sprout from their bodies as their respective firearms appear in their hands
An evil lurks in the heart of this new city, and it's up to Predator and her new friends to save the day!
>More brief action shots of the girls firing wildly at shadowy, vaguely insectoid foes
So be sure to catch the fun-filled daily life adventures of Predator and her companions, this autumn, brought to you by ARES MACROTECHNOLOGY!
>The music winds into a crescendo as the show's logo appears, the words "ARES MAGICAL GUN CATS" emblazoning themselves with a pink flair on gunmetal grey

>>47686093
Nice map example, by the way, thanks.

>>47697693
Some ideas can be salvaged from GTA commercials.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-tkmv-yUxQ

>>47698545
This is what happens when you let Horizon handle your PR.
>"Hey, we need to expand on the teen girl demographic"

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>>47698545
>two tomboys
>additional boxing girl

Your fetish is showing

>>47698629
>Cheerleader
>Tomboy

>>47698135
Ehh, my point was more Brady Campaign and Moms Demand Action kind organization existing.


Finland Corporation writefaggotry. All these are based in real companies. The reason why they haven't been eaten by foreign companies is because of autistic anti-monopoly laws and our Parliament for not getting fucking nothing done.

>Stora Enzo Kymmene is biggest forest industry corporation in northern europe. They survived the major paper industry crash by eating other majot competitors and switching to bioengineering and building industry. Specialized in biofuels and building energy efficient wood structures Stora Enso Kymmene has managed to weather the storm.

>Sako-Valmet is conglomerate made from privatized former state companies and formerly Beretta owned Sako. Making a wide array of products from industrial equipment to weapons they are biggest Finnish corporation.

>Patria-Kongsberg. Two companies merged in 2016 (Kongsberg actually bought part of Patria few weeks ago) with Nammo to become biggest Fenno-scandinavian weapons, maritime, air- and spacetech company.

>Wärtsilä-Cargotec controls most of Finnish shipyards and is specialized is whole shebang that is ports and shipbuilding. Known for their leisure cruiseships and world-class propulsion and power systems.

>Kone. They sell lifts and lift accessories. Merge of Kone (one of the world leading elevator and lift makers) and Konecranes (formerly part of Kone) made Kone biggest elevator and lifting equipment maker in world after buying Cargotecs lifting business along with Terex.

>>47697693
Make some political commercials. Plenty of seats up for grabs, smear as much mud about made-up candidates as possible.

"X want to build ghoul communities downtown!"

"Y said he would give full SINs to all non-citizens, including gang members and nagas!"

"Peter Jones believes in traditional Essence values, and that all implants should have costs. Transgender people have to follow the rules too."

>>47698689
Ah, I misread. I thought he said that both Alpha-chan and HVAR-san were tomboys.

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>>47698003
You gotta unslot from Desert Wars sometime, omae. You'll buy anything Vale Runs-as-Deer shills out, won't you? Because I absolutely do That gorgeous motherfucker is so scripted his winning smile requires a license and fake his perfect jawline has been used to check astrophysical telemetry. There are a dozen other objectively inferior corps who don't rely on smarmy combat trid stars I would lick gunpowder off his abs in public who sell much better weapons for dying like a bitch in the gutter. Don't bother with Ares.

Buy Ares.

>>47697693

The following preview has been approved for all audiences by the UCAS motion picture association.

Spinrad Productions

An Oliver Stone film

Man: "If I answer that question you keep asking. If I give you the name of the big enchillada, you know..."

*Footage of handsome man in suit and finely dressed elf dancing*

"...Then it's bon-voyage Dino. I mean like permanent. I mean like a bullet in my head, you dig? Does that help you see my problem a little better?"

*Slow motion sound effects of an explosion set to footage of paper*

Woman: "Out of the corner of my eye, I saw a flash of light down the street... and then there was an explosion."

*Footage of people looking around in a panic*

Man 2: "All that cloak and dagger stuff, you know, they called it Operation Obsidian."

Man 3: "It's gonna be ok Dave, you just talk to us on the record and we'll protect you. Now I guarantee it."

Man 2: "You are so naive"

*Slow motion sound effects of an explosion set to footage of paper*

Group of people now. A fat man says: "We found this in your office. We think the conference room is also bugged, maybe the phones."

*Shaky cam footage of limousine driving down the street*

Man: "I'm not co-operating here! Listen this is a death warrant for me!"

Child: "Are the same people gonna kill us pop?" Man 3: "Nobody's gonna kill us"

*Slow motion sound effects of an explosion set to footage of paper*

Man 3: "Ya'll got to get into your minds how the hell the spooks think. They're not ordinary crooks. Think the unthinkable."

*Footage of panicked reactions to the limousine explosion*

Man 3: "Question everything. Now we're through the looking glass here people. White is black, and black is white."

*Slow motion sound effects of an explosion set to footage of paper; a signature is beginning to take shape*

1/2

>>47698931

Man 3: "You don't believe me? All this time you never believed me?"

Woman: "I don't know. I just want to raise our children and live a normal life I want my LIFE BACK!"

Man 4: "THIS THINGS BIGGER THAN ALL OF US!"

Man 3: "HOW MANY CORPSES IS IT GOING TO TAKE FOR YOU LAWYERS TO FIGURE OUT..."

Man 3: "People got to know. People got to know why he died."

Man 5: "Do you know what you've done to me? I'M A DEAD MAN!"

*Footage of limousine*

Woman: "Well if they can kill the president they can certainly get me!"

Man 6: "You're a mouse fighting a gorilla"

Man 7: "You're close. You're closer than you think."

Man 1: "There's going to be an attempt to kill you somewhere between here and New Orleans"

Man 3: "I say let justice be done though the heavens fall."

*Slow motion sound effects of an explosion set to footage of paper; Zoom out to reveal name: DUNKELZAHN*

*Full speed explosion sound, tearing paper apart, revealing behind it: "Big D: The untold story."

>>47698931
>An Oliver Stone film

Damn leonization. JFK wasn't even that good.

>>47698323
>Is there a way to make magic arrow heads in 4e like there is in 5e?

Looks like you're the dumb one this time, anon! They where asking about 4e, not 5e.

And as far as I am aware, the only way to do this is to enchant the arrows as Anchoring Foci, which is both expensive and heavily encourages you to not enchant them with anything that will destroy the arrow and to recover the arrows after the battle is over. Those foci are page 84 of Street Magic.

>>47697858
Small time. Why sell them a gun when you can sell them a reinforced door, a safe, a panic room, a home-defense drone, contracts to maintain all those things, insurance...?

>>47698725
Politics are a dangerous line to toe, even if you keep it entirely in the fluff material. You never know what will trigger people these days.

Though I'd still like to make "metavariants are a social construct" work somehow.

>>47698725
https://youtu.be/fCm7cAM1HIg?t=314

>Vote Republican senator Robert Thorne, the candidate NOT accused of being a murderous child pornographer!

>>47698725

People get so butthurt about anything transgender related. It's an instant tantrum button.

>>47699186
Whoops, it kicked out my timing mark.

Political smear ads start at 5:14

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>>47699127
There's going to be approximately 8 people who watch this thing, and 5 of them will be the players. You can't pussyfoot around everything that might possibly offend someone- the whole game is 'poor people who commit crimes that are sketchy even for a dystopian fascist corporation'.

The transgender joke is tasteless, and I never would have said it in a place where people could link it to me, but there's plenty of room to make jokes that are obvious spoofs of real life.

>>47698696
Have you read Shadows of Europe?

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How's Sweden doing in the SR universe?

>>47680774
>*Seppuku.sklchp
The twist is that it teaches you how to commit sudoku.

>>47699633
Probably better than IRL.

>>47697858
Pretty sure most people do. Armour is equally as common.
>“A perfect pistol for the inexperienced, small-framed metahuman” is often how gun shop clerks describe this lightweight, sleek, and long-barreled pistol. With a built-in laser sight, low felt-recoil, and a small internal magazine, it is a popular home-defense weapon.
I couldn't find the one that gives you better home contents insurance, here's the Nitama Sporter.

>>47699649
Who completes Sudoku faster, someone with a math SPU or someone with a Sudoku skillchip slotted?

>>47699633
According to the 6th World Almanac, there is something called the Scandinavian Union so I guess Sweden is a part of that. Nothing in this book about this Union though. There are perhaps more infos in Shadows of Europe?

>>47699702
It depends on the sudoku difficulty level and the skillsoft rating.

>>47699633
See >>47699583.

>>47699583
Actually I have and it does give some flesh around the bones, but my Finnish pride requires more. More opportunities for Nordic runners
>>47699732
Shadows of Europe has Sweden and Scandi stuff.

Silly thing is that in Shadows of Europe Erika basically owns and rules Finland. We know that Erika merged and became NeoNET so one AAA corp literally governs a nation.

>>47699943
Yep, good old Aztechnology.

Wait, you weren't talking about them?[/Bad Joke]

>>47700047
Aztechnology is kinda different due to the power gap between Atzlan and Finland. Atzlan is big enough to do running or similar stuff there, but 1984 on crack Finland, not so much.

>>47699943
>>47700047
There's also Nam, where the communist goverment took one look at the extraterritoriality rules and instantly declared themselves to be a corp so they could annex neighboring nations just by buying land.

do cyber torso have attributes?
if I have 2 cyber arms and legs at the same stats do I average between the 4 or add my natural in
what about if I have a cyber torso do I average with the torso included and the stats it has if any

>>47700772
>do cyber torso have attributes?
Depends on whether you classify them as cyber limbs. The book is slightly sketchy on that, but most ignore the book being less than certain, and say 'yes'.

>>47700772
I say Cybertorsos count as Cyberlimbs. The only real advantage of augmenting a Cybertorso with Strength and Agi is to boost your body's average.

>>47701352
What would you need an agility or strength score on those for

>>47701987
Also they're not limbs anyway

5e, page 455
>Cyberskulls and –torsos are included in the “cyberlimbs”
category, though they are in fact shells rather
than full replacements (or actual limbs).

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>>47699633
The North Sea is a toxic cesspit. Sweden has become the world leader in clean energy and it's government is one of the most corp-hostile in Europe. The regulations on pollution are borderline fanatic. They heavily favor local corps to the point that they have an entire subdivision of the military dedicated to protecting them.

>>47686099
I want this.

>>47702947
I got out a copy of Shadows of Europe and the fact that a swedish special ops squad can drop on your head if you target the wrong corp is amazing.

>>47702947

>The regulations on pollution are borderline fanatic.

More than in Amazonia?

>>47703559
4e, Karmagen, 750 Karma, Free Knowledge Skills + Free Contacts.

Character was an animal trainer in Sweden before his bio-corp made the decision to focus on bio-drones rather than trained animals, since it was cheaper than the years-long process of combat training an alpha and his pack.

Took his severance pay and started his own security firm, pay-by-the-hour corpsec.

http://pastebin.com/VSXjKBZk

I've got sixty-ish karma unspent, and I'm not sure what to blow it on. Is there anything I missed (Aside from ammo for the taser, which I just caught), or any suggestions what to buy to round out the character?

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>>47690344
Thrity hours of pain! All at once!

>>47690344
>>47704393

Where's that merit for flagellants where you always walk around with a point of damage because hardcore masochism...

>>47704420
>PIE IESU DOMINE, DONA EIS REQUIEM.

Run Faster pg. 158

>>47690344

So, that removes Drain?

>>47704795
But only Physical drain, not stun drain.

>>47704821

Welp, the idea of Magical Ball Lightning Overcasting Troll Adept seems more and more fun.

>>47704899

The Doom style of healing?

I love it.

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>>47704899
Sounds like a power for HADOUKEN the troll Muscle Wizard.

>>47704821
Is there a way to heal stun damage? Or at least convert stun into physical?
I'd like to play a heavily armored, unarmed adept, but stun will murder the hell out of me.

At least with physical, I can punch it off.

Also it pairs great with Empathetic healing. You can pull off allies damage and punch it into your enemies.

>>47704965
regeneration
Vampire adept is something I wanna do

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>>47704965
I don't know how the Pain Editor works in 5e but back in 4e it would let you fill up your stun bar but stay conscious, so that all future stun rolled over into physical damage.

It'd work -very- well for someone who's all about pain and transfering his wounds around from himself and his allies into enemies.

>>47705085
The same in 5e. While active, it also grants you one extra Willpower at the cost of one Intuition.

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>>47705292
So grab Prototype Transhuman, Restricted Gear, Pain Editor, Pie Iesu Domine, and Adept/Mystic Adept with Transmit Damage, and Empathic Healing. Pick a tradition that's not intuition based and be a holy flagellant Pain Adept.

Backstory can be secret church experiment out of Amazonia near the Christ the Redeemer tesla coil, or something.

>>47704420
>>47705363

Didn't In Debt also give you physical damage?

>>47705490
Fits with the above as well - You got hit by the Christ the Redeemer tesla coil, awakened due to massive trauma from the electrical shock, and damaged the coil with thaumic feedback or some shit. The In Debt is what you have to pay to fix the damned thing, and the damage from that and Pie Iesu Domine is your pennance for hurting an image of the Lord Almighty.

>>47705559
The statue nukes anyone who gets near it, I'm not sure how anyone would ever be able to get near enough to fix it.

>>47705490
In Debt is a good way of affording the bioware you want to start with, too.

The one issue I think is hitting hard enough with unarmed attacks assuming you go mage-heavy on this character to actually get rid of your damage stacks in combat.

Though, Hilariously, the Transmit Damage says 'Target' rather than 'enemy', so as written you can punch a wall or beat a heavy bag to heal with it.

If Mages have Spellcasting and Adepts have Chi Casting, what do Shamans have?

Channelling?
Conjuring?
Summoning is too narrow.

>>47705939
>Summoning is too narrow
Get a load of this guy.

>>47706004
They can do tons of stuff besides spirit summoning though.

>>47686093
Is there a pack online where I can download all the maps from the game or do I have to go play it and take screenshots?

>>47705939
Spiritism?

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Was /srg/ aware that Ares was a real modern company?

http://armamentresearch.com/

Also what are some other fictional companies that you guys use for runs, especially for 'smaller' A rated companies.

>>47706931
>Was /srg/ aware that Ares was a real modern company?
No, but I've seen evidence of Lonestar.

>>47707674
Furgeson?

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>>47705085
> Pain editor is ware
Fuck.

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Was there a rule for trading nuyen to karma and karma to nuyen or was I imagining things?

>>47682093
That's pretty fraggin wiz, chummer. 10/10 for the suggestion.

>>47708296
At chargen you can exchange up to 10 karma, each point granting you 2000 nuyen.

Missions and some GM allow exchange at the same rate (in one or both ways) during play, but it isn't universal.

>>47708330
Gotcha. Was there a suggestion price for post char creation?

>>47708363
No, the rate is the same:

1 Karma <=> 2000 Nuyen

>>47708141
A strong case can be made for pretty much any special attribute type to spend one point of essence on 'ware.

And that case only gets stronger as the available grade goes up.

Could a human male impregnate a female troll? What do the books say about interspecies sex, if anything?

>>47709371
Yes, and the child will be either troll or human. No half trolls in shadowrun

>>47709371

> Could a human male impregnate a female troll?

Yes

> What do the books say about interspecies sex, if anything?

It happens. Quite often, probably.

>>47709437
>No half trolls in shadowrun
No half-elves or half dwarves either, I assume?

Question.
Can I shapeshift with biowear installed? I know cyberware sort of fucks it.

>>47709713
If you're a drake then yes.

>>47709468
No. You are a pure metatype (or a metavariant), no mixed expressions.

>>47709764
no, I want to use spells to turn into animals and back

>>47709781
Unless you had some really strange surgeries done to you. But in that case, it means that you look strange pretty much everywhere and get strange looks anywhere you can be seen.

>>47709846
But that's not expressing as a mixed metatype. That's expressing as a pure metatype, then getting surgeries to change your physical appearance to something else.

SURGE I doesn't count

>>47709873
What, having half your face in a smile and half in a frown doesn't count as a mixed expression?

Okay, so that's my worst joke in 48 hours, but since the thread's already almost dead, I don't mind making it.

>>47709895
I think you're mistaking a stroke for a mixed expression

>>47709371
Ah, but the real question is what would sex with a female troll be like.

>>47709968
Water under the bridge.

>>47709965
Won't make a bad joke for that one, sorry.

Instead, I've got a bug report to make for chummer, so I'll see you all in the next thread.