40k general

>>47615604
Is there any race that you haven't played against in a long time or ever?

I just had my first game ever against ad mech, but they're a new faction anyway.

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>Bought a small 3 tiered drawer
>took ~1.5 hrs to organize my bits by army
>tfw bits are finally neat and organized
>mfw now every time I need to search for a bit I don't need to sift through 3 armies worth

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Battlereport:

So tee gee, I think I faced That Guy today. I'm a noob, for what its worth.

>be me
>go to local GW with 1000 points of scions, inquisition and a few marines since there was a mega battle happening
>was a little late and they already started
>guy I had seen there before was at the other table, asks if I'm down for a game
>he says 1850, I say I only have 1k
>"oh okay. Do you have anything that could harm a knight?"
>mfw
>his Tau friend who I'd fought before comes up with a Taurox and a squad of scions (he'd wanted to play Kill Team)
>I kind of wanted to face him in Kill Team (and sort of asked him)
>knight guy budges in, essentially forces us to play him

I should have just said no but I went ahead anyway. God dammit. I even heard about this guy's knight list from other store-goers, but when I had first met him he was running KDK and seemed like a chill dude (still seems nice but...). Anyways:

>Other guy who I had met before comes up, looking concerned
>tells knight guy, "dude are you really gonna bring like 3 knights to a 1k point game"
>ends up lending me his 2 dreadknights because he felt bad
>game start, 3 knights on the table (two short ones and the tall guy)
>immediately shunt the two DKs over to the short knight in the back because reasons
>send a rhino with a plasma tac squad up the field a little
>DKs and knight shoot it out a little
>rhino takes a hit, -1 HP
>his knights advanced to take out my servo skulls

Next I did something really dumb. Being a noob, for some reason I thought you rolled for reserves all at once instead of by each unit. I rolled a 1 and kept all my melta scions in reserves. No one caught my mistake and I didn't realize it until my DK friend mentioned it later.

>DKs assault back knight, murderzone him
>Tall knight and little knight shoot up the Chimera (immobilized), Rhino (dies) and Taurox (dies)
>tall knight assaults DKs, begins dunking them
>luckily I had to leave for something and bailed out at that point

Fuckin A.

>>47615738
>>he says 1850
Immediate warning bells go off when you hear this guys. 1850 is faggot tier points.

>knight guy budges in, essentially forces us to play him
No, man up and tell him to fuck off with his noise

>3 knights to a 1k point game
Please tell me you took this kid out back and beat his ass

> No one caught my mistake
Because not having your meltas shoot their knights is better for them. 100% if you rolled for them to arrive they would have mentioned you did it wrong

>>47615843
Yeah. You're right. Looking back on it, I kind of thought I could take him since we'd houseruled that my 4 scion squads were all melta command squads.

But if I won, then we'd have a knight player claiming his army was underpowered because it got rekt by stormtroopers.

>>47615653
So what glue is best? It seems to be doing OK, but it sticks when I don't want it to, and doesn't when I do.

So, got a suggestion on a good plastic glue?

>>47616001
GW glue is fine in my experience. The plastic glue, that is. The new weird ass super glue tubes are fucking garbage.

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How would you make a Soviet-inspired Tau (Cold War era)?

>>47616085
paint them all red and give them little yellow sickle and hammer decals.

>>47615738
Sweet Jesus Christo above, Anon. You bailed at the perfect time. Also why is that reaction image so perfect?

>>47616085
you are obligated to say comrade at least once an hour. perhaps a mustache on every tau?

>>47616085

Spam Tanks and Riptides/Skyrays. The more missiles, the better. Also, all infantry formations are mechanized.

>>47616085
>>47616119
The hammer and sickle thing probably would be ill-fitting for Tau. The closest thing they would make is drone and riptide.
>>47616148
Can they ever grow facial hair?

>>47615738
GW brick and mortars have terrible playerbases in my experience. If you have an flgs I'd suggest checking it out. I spent the first two years in the hobby going to a GW. Almost quit because I couldnt stand associating myself with a bunch of that guys. Luckily I decided to give the flgs a second chance - best decision I couldve made.

>>47616085
Minimal unit upgrades, absolutely no drones, quantity over quality tons of infantry backed by couple overblown superweapons.
HQ must be the most useless unit of the whole community.

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>>47616085
model a tank after the Trabant or Lada

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>>47616171

>facial hair

Ethereals can.

>>47615624

Dark Eldar. I have other armies, but I've never played against DE. Ever.

I only use mine for low-points (1K and under) casual games.

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>>47616188
Huh. Well I be darned they can. The shake weights did draw my attention first.

>>47616188

Does it count as facial hair or epic neckbeard?

>>47616001
Use the Testor's that comes in the black triangle shaped plastic container. It has a small metal tube applicator and lasts forever.

>>47615738
what's his full list? I want to be that guy

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>>47616173
>No drones.

Red Alert lied to me.

>>47615843
What is so bad about 1850? That was the limit my friend group was aiming for...

>>47616172
They're right next to my house and from what I gather they all hate the knight guy too (even the manager). Overall they've been pretty good, but I will start looking around now.

>>47616248

Just 5 knights, one of which is the tall one (atrapos I think).

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>>47616229
anon, that's just a long braided goatee. neckbeards are terrible

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>>47616248
But why?
>>47616259
It's a redflag.
>>47616265
Which Aptros? The one larger than a Warhound?

>>47615738
This time in events that never happened: This shocking story will surely rile some emotion in you!

>>47616293
>Which Aptros? The one larger than a Warhound?

There are zero knights bigger then a warhound.

>>47616217
>>47616171

The better question is, can they have fu-manchu hair and look good?

>>47616293
>but why
my life is miserable, I want to make some neckbeards cry and rage at forums because of me

>>47616085

Red Army or Blue army (for originality)?

>>47616354
Just don't expect anyone to want to play you a second time. You're better off building a fair army that you get really good with and then trash talking.

>>47616347
Oh yes there is. It's a newer 30k Knight that got resized. It's larger than the Supremacy Suit.
>>47616349
It's a 50/50 deal. Some do some don't. Depends on the Tau.
>>47616354
Get out and get fresh air.

>>47616293
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-FI/Mechanicum-Cerastus-Knight-Atrapos

This is the one I'm pretty sure.

>>47616385
True. Definitely no way I'm gonna accept a game from that dude again.

>>47616293
>It's a redflag
For what, though?

>>47616293
>>47616430
Yeah why would 1850 specifically be bad?

>>47616347

>There are zero knights bigger then a warhound.

Isn't one of the new Forge World ones coming out soon to be as large or slightly larger than a Warhound is?

>>47616349

I say fu-manchu beard for slender ones while those with a Earth-case like build get bushy beards.

>>47616478
>not giving bushy beards to fire warriors so they can be OPERATORS

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>>47616519

>>47616468
>>47616401
Same size as Ta'unar, Ta'unar is smaller then a warhound.

>>47616407
>>47616468
That's the one.

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>>47616580
1/2

>>47615624
I've never played against Orks, though I'd really like to. Everyone in my flgs played AdMech, Tau, SM, or Khorne Daemonkin. Orks just seem like a genuinely fun army to play against, I wish they had better rules.

>>47616349
>and look good
tau never look good, so no

Got to cover up all their ugly mugs with helmets.

>>47615674
Nice! I've got a tackle box I use to store my CSM, and the top shelf has all my bitz in it sorted as best I can.

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>>47616596
2/2

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I have now played over 125 games with my Orkz since 6th edition started, AMA

>>47616663
W/L ratio?

Fun per hour?

>>47616601
I wanted to play orks when I started but I didn't want to lose all the time so I went for AM instead. I wish orks had better rules too.

>>47616660
No imperial knight is the size of a warhound.

Feeling kind of dispirited today 40k general, drove for two hours today to seek out two different hobby shops to find a game and neither of them had any 40k community, just lots of MtG players. While at least I have some devastators and a Space Marine Heroes set coming in to build andpaint, any tips on how to get better at the game while I'm sitting in a dead zone for my hobby? Sorry for blogging.

>>47616673
>W/L ratio?
65/35 my favor roughly, maximum fun per hour

>>47616663
Zog me it's bootiful.

>>47616703
That's what you get for not calling ahead you git.

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>>47616720
I have a lot more, my collection all in all is like 10,000 points give or take

>>47616663
Disgusting. Too many toys and not enough boyz.

>>47616703
Get your friends to buy Tabletop Simulator when it goes on sale and play online. There's a fairly healthy selection of maps and armies, assuming you don't mind a little proxying here and there.

>>47616749

>>47616747

>>47616765
Still not enough boys to toys.

>>47616663
how can you deal with pie plates and people bunkering in a corner etc?

how would you rank opposing armies from ez to hard? including mirror match

>>47616747
>those screaming red blobs
Good heavens.

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made a 1850 pt list for a sort of mad king scenario, I know Necrons are strong right now but I don't see anybody using destroyers, hope this list isn't too cheesy

Destroyer cult formation

Destroyer Lord
phylactery, voidreaper, phaseshiftier, and mineshackle scarabs

three units of 6 destroyers
one each upgraded to a heavy destroyer

one unit of 3 heavy destroyers

CAD

Lord
war scythe and mineshackle scarabs

two units of 5 immortals with tesla carbines

two units of 10 flayed ones

8 lichguard with sword and board

>>47616703
check online for locals

>>47616660
>>47616614
>>47616596
and they just keep getting bigger and bigger; where will it end?

>>47616430
>>47616465
It's netlist territory. Especially in the UK where our tourneys aren't played at that points level if someone comes in wanting to play 1850 is so they can thoughtlessly drop the FOTM list down and expect an easy win.

>>47616703
hire a prostitute to play with you, we do it once a month for my D&D group

>>47616793
The new knight is a manlet and you are still bitching.

>>47616660
Wait a minute, that new knight is armed with those fucking D blast laser guns isn't it?

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>>47616824
No, lascannons instead.

>>47616778
Plate armies you either go shooty/heavy armor or very very fast

CSM/Marines, Nids, DE, Orkz, Daemons I would rank "normal"

Guard, Tau, Eldar, Knights I would rank "ah crap"

Knights I rank "zog me"

>>47616863
Chaos Knights I rank "zog me"

>>47616851
I hope they make the lasers strength D in the final draft, because fuck eldars.

>>47616880
Eldar Wraithhost I rank "Juz zog me up git"

>>47616851
Ah slightly scaled down then, makes sense. Is this also the first superheavy that doesn't have HPs that are a multiple of 3?

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>>47616886

>>47616465
Most tourney groups (easily spotted by their house rules and an acronym name) play at that point value.
That means all the opponent is doing is playing at list literally printed from the internet from matches that give new meaning to WAAC faggots.
Rarely, it's the point value of a FLGS, but it's pretty much only that if they are tourney fags.
So basically, if you wanna play a game and your opponent says the point value should be 1850, look over what they are bringing. Even if you already agreed to play and are in the middle of setting up, if the faggot puts down infinite eldar bikes, wraithknights, grav spam or an invisible deathstar, decline the match.
If your opponent asks why, you can say the game isn't worth your time (because it will be literally 0 fun for you to get crushed) and/or you don't play against WAAC min maxed meta tourney lists for pickup games in the same why you don't punch yourself in the face for fun.

Also, we might summon the tourney fags and their houserule spouting by talking about this. Please ignore them, they are a plague and a cancer on the game.

>>47616821
i am but a humble chaos daemon, i must sow chaos where ever i am

>>47616892
Well, it does help that SP points are being rulled out. The reason that the factors of three existed was because Structure points was a thing. It was used to calculate void shield regen I think and was given to superheavies for their hp instead. 1sp=3hp

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>>47616660

This image was deceptive then.

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>>47616781
Those are muh wierdboyz, one of my favorite units

>>47616923
These are always deceptive. Most of those slideshows are made twenty minutes before they are revealed and are put together by interns.

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>>47616776
Heres a tide I brought for a tourney

>>47616925

I bet that Knight and Gorkanaut had an interesting time.

>>47616955
Nice and bunched up for all those blasts.

>>47616955
Thats betta

>>47616925
they are definitely weird.

>>47616908
So should I tell my group to push for 2000 instead of 1850?

>>47616985
They did, essentially punched each other to death I got lucky on the charge and took him with me

>>47616993
I had to come out like that, had to fit how ever many tons of boys it was inside of six inches, I got slaughtered that game, actually beat or tied with everyone else that day tho

>>47617041
You should play at whatever level you like. Personally, I prefer 3k doubles.

>two effectively codex-compliant chapters play more uniquely compared to codex SM than CSM do


csm update when

>>47616955
Nut nuff boyz!

>>47617041
You should play whatever everyone is comfortable with.
One guideline: More points means less min maxing can occur, because you have more points for more answers.
My FLGS standard is 2k, but that's just what we are used to. You wouldn't think 150 extra points means much, but considering that's basically another answer to something I might encounter, that's good.
Try out other points values, 2k is good, 2.5k, 3k as well. Then downgrade, try 1.5k and 1k. See which of the points values you guys enjoy more.
Odds are, you'll want more points for more toys. Just keep in mind too many points can make the game take too long.

>>47617185
>csm update when
It's probably sitting on the CEOs desk while he compares it to the internet and the rage it would cause, mostly among 3.5 edition faggots.

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Everyone keeps complaining about how units keep getting too large and yet dont say anything on how the new titan is smaller then a dread-knight

>>47616663
Favorite HQ?

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>>47617201
>mfw the CEO is still upset about 3.5, pre nerf heldrakes, and the white dwarf chaos daemons update

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>>47617185
this is your brain on chaos

any questions?

>>47617201
We've played at 1k for a while and wanted to move up and a few guys suggested 1850.

I'll see if they're willing to bump up to 2k.

>>47617225
1500 is the secret best point level.

2000 is for big games.

1850 is for people who want all of their toys, without dealing with the escalation of force that comes with 2k+.

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>>47617209
Ghazzy, he's overpriced but there's nothing like charging him into a melee and calling a WAAGH

>>47617045
>had to fit how ever many tons of boys it was inside of six inches
but why?

Say I want to try convince my friends to let me run corsairs occasionally, because according to them, they don't want to let me run it because Corsairs have a different perils table and their own Psyker powers, and that they "let you use the best of both armies" (actual quote referring to Craftworlds and Dark Eldar). Would I use the 2nd edition Doom of Mymera from the mega? Or is there a better scan that I can use because it might not come out good if I print pictures of pages. I want to print out the pages and make a physical "codex" for them to read on their own. Or what could I do to make them stop thinking that Corsairs are more broken than Craftworlds. Because I know the second I play with my DE, and get SLAUGHTERED, they'll be like "oh it's just the dice bro".

>>47617254
What a glorious shitshow.
I always thought the bombers were great looking models. Are they any good?

>>47617202
It's for the new Titanicus game.

>>47617253
Yeah, double force org sure is bullshit!

>>47617285
Print out doom of mymera's section on corsairs. Use it as a codex. Also, get a new group.

>>47617285
Your 'friends' sound like cunts.

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>>47617316
>>47617331

They're kind of my chums from high school. But they have no objections with me playing Tau.
So I'm like pic related.

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>>47617287
Honestly all the ork fliers are meh at best, but they're cheap so you can shove them in

>>47617275
They came in outflanking, moved onto the board

>>47617339
Just ally in some corsairs in for the first few times then switch to them being the full force.

>>47617358
That gorknaut tho is just the best.
So slugga or shootas boyz?

>>47617377
So that'd be what? A Corsair Prince and some reavers?

>>47617389
Old Dex I'd say shoots hands down, new Dex with shoots costing an extra point per model, I say slugga for those ridiculous amounts of attacks OTC

>>47617399
idk, I don't have the book on me. I just borrowed it from a friend.

>>47617201
See, I don't even want legion rules. I just want a mid-tier army with fluffy, solid rules that don't leave my scratching my head and wondering what the fuck they were thinking. I want a way to be able to play fluffy word bearers, or thousand sons, or night lords, or red corsairs, or whomever. If they can do that without legion rules, whatever, more power to them.

Meanwhile, I still have no fucking clue why daemonic possession is something you'd pay points for, why mutilators are S&P, why Khorn Berserkers aren't any better than khorne marked CSM, why there's no deep strike mitigation in the army beyond the Key, and a host of other shit.

>>47617285
try switching armies for a game, show how easily dark eldar can crumble or struggle

i wanted a kabalite heavy fast skimmer heavy army years ago when 5th came out but no way i'm doing that now

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>>47617499
>tried doing this when my mate bitched about orks of all things
>"But i dont want to learn a whole new army just for one game"

>>47617358
Yeah man, it's 6 inches forward not lengthwise, you could have spaced out all along the table edge and survived the blasts.

>>47617358
do you talk like an Ork to your adversary when you're playing?

>>47617566
Those Forrests would have ruined my day marching through them, and I wouldn't have survived either way he killed me dead with about half of the armor pictured

>>47617599
The people that do this make feel uncomfortable

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>>47617599
Only when I WAAAGH or I get a boss into melee

>>47617599
People who do this or use the GW approved sound effects are autistic.

>>47617559
That's just dumb. You're playing the dude who knows the army. They'll be able to tell you what everything does.

>>47617633
or you know, just like to have fun and pretend to be orks

>>47617644
So yeah, my point stands.

>>47617499
Here's the list I was planning on running to debut them. It will be a 2v2 Me + Harlequins splitting 3000pts. So I did splurge on upgrades a bit.

Also, what's the point of the Orbs of Despair? Are you supposed to scatter, then pray you don't fudge the to wound rolls of 6's?


http://pastebin.com/tzQqhAvF

>>47617663
you sound like a lotta fun.

>>47617616
>>47617633
Ork psyop irritation/uncomforting confirmed

>>47617559
>tfw consistently beat my tau friend with my nids
>recently he's come under the conclusion that tau are underpowered and that nids are OP and need a 7e nerf
>he always enters a "i quit i'm a baby" mode when he has less than 50% of his forces left
>while he takes out a majority of my important units with a handful of models that can shoot whatever they please
>switch armies for a few games
>routinely spank him with his own tau against my nids
>"you just get lucky"
oh boy

>>47615843
This isn't as bad as the ass hole who was making armor saves with his marines against my GFs lord of change in a 500 pt tournament. She didn't know any better at the time because she was still new at the time.

>>47617663
yeah how dare those guys have fun what assholes

Those sticks jammed up you're asses must be what gives you guys such good posture.

what's the best bang for your buck considering the current codex balance?

As in I want to be moderately competitive around the 1000 and 1500 range and invest the least amount of money possible, which units should I be trying to get?

>>47617716
Buy army men, proxy them as eldar.

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>>47617679
Like i get it, we're playing a game and you're having fun but i find the roleplaying weird.

>They ALWAYS scream waaagh when they call a waaagh

>>47617739
>knife-ear
sasuga

>>47617716
Wraithdar, Riptide spam or Skyhammer. These will all get you no games because of being a faggot, but whatever. Or get Grey Knights for less-awful terminator troops. Or recast things, that works too

>>47617739
That shit gets old real quick, stop yelling inside assholes.

>>47617739
I don't even scream it Senpai, pls stop projectin on me

>>47617698
Yea, sorry. I'll sit here awkwardly as you continue to fake a bad British ork accent and constantly yell waggh every turn. Don't mind that I'm scooping up my models.

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>>47617753

I want to make a 70's funk themed ork army. Have James Green, Marvin Waaaughhh, The Kommandodores, Brick James, Krul and the Gang, all the classics

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jungle+boogie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IST6qRfVqwY

>>47617786
When did this ever actually happen?

>>47617786
stop projecting you knife-eared cunt

>tfw trying to get rid of my Necrons
>my only offers so far are 5 imperial Knights or a BA lot that doesn't have everything I need

At least the knights would be easier to carry...

Would I be better off selling a sizable lot and just using the money to try and build a battle company

>>47617786
>>47617770
OMFG, WOW, just wow...

seriously, man, thats just... sad

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>>47617804
It doesn't for a good reason

>>47617805
There is more then one poster on /tg/

>>47617702
not sure who shit in your cereal but okay

>>47617739
My opponents have shouted WAAAGH! more than I ever have when playing 40k, it's like they get more joy out of playing against da greenskinz than I do.

>>47617859
Duh, they actually get to win

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you gaiz! 40k iz like, supur seruis!

>>47617826
You can yell all you like at your own houses, don't come to the flgs and do it.

>>47617766
could I just field dark vengeance terminators as Grey knights?

are they that good to just field that?

>>47617867
You'd be surprised. The main guy I play 40k with has never actually won a game in the ~4 years he's played.

>>47617845
YOU did, when you said you hate fun, you dour cunt

>>47617892
I'll yell wherever I damn well please, you bitter old man

>>47617898
They're not the best but they're okay on their own.

Most people won't care if you paint them silver and have the Power fist guys be the NDH dudes.

>>47617892
SIc Semper Tyranus, you fucking mongoloid. Go back to bongland

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>>47617962
No wonder people hate americans.

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>>47617910

Geez, fucking tard wranglers aren't doing their job if people like these are able to get on the internet.

>>47617910
i have spent time building and fixing up some oop metal bloodcrushers from 3rd edition. lavishly given them each unique paint jobs with the full intention of using one of the worse units in the chaos daemon book. i do not hate fun

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>>47617962
is it possible for you to not reply to such an obvious troll?

>>47617889
What did you mean by this?

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>tfw just wanted to talk about muh Orkz
>tfw retards arguing with retards

>>47617670
>>47617670
Sucks that the thread got derailed by fun-haters. Any input on how hard my bud and I will get slaughtered?

>>47618047
He is autism incarnate, yeller of memes.

>>47618072
By rope, kill yourself.

>>47618093
What kind of deity is named Rope?

has anyone made an american themed army?

>>47618144
>literally catachans

>>47618114
A merciful one

>>47618144
Catachans, Tau fight like the Murrican army

>>47618176
and its all because lady liberties cut off your balls and put them in her purse. Hows the empire doing these days, lads? Not so good?

Don't worry, I hear Canada is still you're little bitch

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>>47618144
Yo.

>>47618176
U wot

>>47618176
>>47618204
Can we not?

>>47618204
fucking tories ruined your country
you ain't no democracy, and you ain't never gunna be.

>>47618144
Screamin Eagles homebrew chapter, look it up on 1d4chan I believe.

>>47618144
This guy on Leddit's doing it.

http://imgur.com/m9K2ibh

http://imgur.com/Xk89cX8

http://imgur.com/yt5J5Zw

>>47618248
oh yeah, NOW you want to back out. After you got in a little sissy slapfight and got your ass handed to you.

Fuck you, bongistan

>>47618276
Just no

Now 'strailya, there's some manly cunts. They make us here in the states look like wee girly men.

>>47618176
Speak English you gay retard.

>>47618176
>>47618204
>>47618249
>>47618276
>>47618309
>t. Aussie shitposter

>>47618249
Yeah because late 90s early 00s labour was fantastic.

>>47618339
What was I, born yesterday?

I'm talking about the reconstruction era, you surly turd.

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>>47618339
>>47618357
CAN WE NOT?

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So, /40kg/, what are your opinions on the new boxes and their rules?

everything is going according to my plan

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>>47618385
ayyy, fine. i'm done.

leets just post funny memes.

>>47616596
>le don't talk to me or my son ever again meme

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>>47616663

Do you prefer bayonets in the face, or the gut? Also, how's it feel being filthy and xenos all the time?

get the fuck off my rock please

>>47618385
what the hell is that, anyway?

looks like either 2 dead rats or a bloody mangled turd.

So, when is IA14 due then? Or is HH Book 7(?) next? or is it book 5?

>>47618479
It is what shit looks like when you have, most likely, bowel cancer. Or stomach cancer. You shouldn't shit blood.

>>47618063
>Look at this picture
>Listen to this https://youtu.be/ZTidn2dBYbY?t=1m27s

WE 80's AGAIN!

you think guardsmen are a bit overpriced? like maybe the should be 4ppm?

>>47618479
It's a bloody shit I took

>>47618510
it's just hemroids, you get them from sitting too much, or when your anus is too hot

I always get them on the summer, but on winter they don't make me bleed.

>>47618510
Nah I tore my ass shitting is all

>New to 40k
>Think the SoB look kinda cool
>The pricetag on those pewter models

They're never getting updated plastic minis, are they. Nobody cares about battle nuns that set things on fire.

>>47618519
80's movies were so cool

>>47618144
Catachans are Rambo guard, old Cadians look like vietnam era GIs, and Mordian Ironguard are Guard in Marine Dress Blues.

Imperial Armour featuring Dark Eldar when?
Corsairs don't count.

>>47618529
That's the issue with all the expensive models getting cheaper over the years, it's not good for the little guys you want to buy lots of. Just remember that grots are 3ppm.

>>47617716
Secondhand space marines off ebay

>>47618573
new DE codex first
then an IA

>>47618554
>>47618535
>>47618530
>>47618510
I think I prefer my rats theory

>>47618555
they were boring af to play with and against.

is it viable to make a living painting WH minis and building terrain?

I'm an architect so I guess I could make some decent buildings.

Or not enough people comission their minis and the ones who do pay comissions don't pay much?

>>47618555
One day man, one day.

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>>47618593
I am the one that took it, it's my bloody shit

>>47618600
its a good sideline, but its too risky to try to make a living at it.

Anyone have the rules for the new Tyranid formation and data slates that came out today?

>>47618535
>>47618554
No, not that much blood. If you're shitting that much blood, even if it is haemorrhoids, they are substantially troublesome they need to be looked at.

You should not be shitting blood. Tearing you ass? That should be a few dabs on the paper. Not filling the bowel and making the water turn red.

If your bowel looks like that, even once, go get checked. If it happens lots of times, you could be in trouble. I'm not memeing or trying to scare you, but that isn't a normal amount of blood. Perhaps it is haemorrhoids, but I'd get checked. Paper? Yes. Bowel + Shit? No.

>>47618634
No its not, I posted this last month

>>47618634
good god, go see a doctor!

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>>47618609

>>47618600
i wouldn't suggest it, but there are a few who do. Victoria Lamb won a few golden demon contests then started a miniature company.

>>47618634
how are you not freaking out over shitting that much blood?

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>>47618646
>>47618600
I met some people online, before they got their business started, who make wargaming tables. They were due to be cheap as shit due to a low price supplier they got, but they lost him.

Either way they seem to be doing OK. Here is some of their work. I've posted it before for some Ork guy.

>>47618597
I like the concept of them tho.
I feel bad for being interested in Tau because people constantly bash on them for being OP as shit but I like the designs.
Same with Eldar.

>>47618609
All we have is hope.

>>47618654
Well I took like a $40 generic treatment and they didn't reappear for like 2 years, so pretty sure it wasn't cancer or something.

I fingered myself a bit and I could feel the protuberance when the weather was very hot.

I don't have insurance so visiting the doctor is just not possible, I'd probably end up sucking dicks for a living if I actually go to the doctor.

>>47618700
well, so long as you've got some structure and some operating capital, you should be good so long as you're not trying to raise a baby or living a metro lifestyle.

>>47618756
especially if you've got nothing else on the table atm. (Take what work you can get)

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>>47618756
>>47618783
Yeah. They have proper machines and equipment. Dunno how they started. This is a 2nd hand board, I think it sold for £1000. So, $1450? It's 6x2 I think.

So, if you got ability, then you need to find some capital. Perhaps you can start small with terrain bits and bombs. My mother, when I was A LOT younger, built me a board and terrain for my CSM. It's fantastic. Too small for my collection now, but I prob wil never get rid o fit. She has always said she would love (if she was a lot younger and healthier) make terrain and boards for people as she loves doing that stuff.

So, if you enjoy it, do that. Start small, make a name, find some like minded people, or a guy/gal with some money and get going. Or join a pre-existing group and offer your abilities.

>>47618144
How have none of you mentioned amerigo secundus? Home of the wolverines? Come on, people!

>>47618736
>I like the concept of them tho.
Literally the only redeemable part, but the rules have always been jank.

>I feel bad for being interested in Tau because people constantly bash on them for being OP as shit but I like the designs.
Just don't go full retard with formations and suits. Strong armies just require a bit of self control on the part of the player.

Are there any notable differences for non LoW Corsairs stuff in the Doom of Mymeara pdfs? The 1st edition one is MUCH better quality for printing,

>>47618736
I give 0 fucks about my eldar being op, because I was stuck in 4th edition for so long. I deserve a little awesomeness.

>>47618923
Eat a dick retard. You're part of the problem.

>>47618923
maybe a little, not a gigantic steaming pile of meta-ruining bullshit
dont be a piece of shit

>>47618923
You deserve nothing. Bitching 24/7 doesn't warrant anything.

>>47618919
Read both.

>>47618923
You say this like Flying Circus / Snakes on a Plane wasn't a thing.

>>47618923
4th edition eldar were still amazing. The only time they've been mediocre has been 5th.

>>47619012
>There's an alternate universe where the top 3 meta teams are Orks, Dark Eldar, and Tyranids, while GW keeps screwing over Imperium factions.

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Making a France in Space and I was wondering if I should add a Not!French Canada on it. I want to add Wendigos to it.

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What are the orcs major problems? Poorly statted? Overcosted?

>>47619066
not enough dakka

>>47618870
Self control huh? So you're saying to have fun and don't be a meta-fag? I can deal with that.

>>47619066
Overcost across the board

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>>47618555
Eh, there are alternatives if you want. If you're really serious just build the army slowly over time. Still paying an arm and a leg, but if you paint and model well enough it could be worth it.

>>47619066
out done in every way, and not enough choppas

>>47618459
Thats mf metal bro. Love it

>>47618932
Eh. I don't use formations, I never serpent spammed. I just like being able to keep up with stuff. It no longer feels like the only things that are tactically viable are fire prisms, wraithlords, and the avatar.
I will say, I wish to God they'd give us some new models. Especially on the Phoenix lords. Those models are old as balls and generally look like a bag of dicks.

>>47618459
hnrg. should i buy some of them metal armageddon steel legion dudes off the GW website?

>>47619066
Shit special rules and no interest in giving any different weapons other than a gorillion different types of power klaw.

>>47619160
Yes

>>47619117
I mean, I'm not leaning super hard on getting them, I've got other options I'd like to start off with.
Maybe if they ever get updated seriously, which I sorta doubt.

>>47619012
4th was great. In 4th. But when I was still using it against 6th ed codexes, it was a kinda shit.

>>47618459
Feels pretty Orky I suppose

>>47617739
>always scream WAAGH

literally never happens

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>>47617680
Tau are a good matchup for Nids. The Tyranid psychic abilities cut the nuts off Tau castles/gunlines/suit faggotry. Seen hormagaunts bitchslap MC's many, many times. I love watching Tau guy get owned by Nid bro.

what's the current underdog army?

chaos demons?

>>47615738
>He thinks Knight formations are good
It's literally just a funlist. I usually start off new players with a superheavy duel to get them used to the game, then 3v3 Knights to bring in objectives and multi unit tactics, then MSU vs Knights and stomp their shit to show that you don't have to be afraid of invincible killing machines, then swap armies to show them that playing the meta beats taking the biggest, baddest dude you can every time.

>>47619066
They can't loot battle suits

>>47619329
Define underdog

>>47619329
Orks. Good luck getting most game store scrubs to admit it, though. Apart from the Ork players, obviously. They know all too well.

So my friend is hitting my Russ with a bomba bomb. Which armor value do I use?

>>47619405
>bomba
do you perhaps mean melta bomb, or is it a boom bomm off the blitza bommer
if its the blitz bommer, it would hit side armour, melta bombs would hit rear

>>47619329
chaos daemons can easily rape the daemon hunters, and were never given a bad book. how can you think that?

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>>47615604
I find your lack of Proof Chicken disturbing...

>>47619506
>>47618176
Please stop

so i'm in the continental united states, what are some good places to buy bits from?

>>47619571
My basement, come on down. Dont tell anyone where youre going though i dont want weirdos showing up

Didnt get a response before but oll try again.

To give an idea of the local meta. Common armies i come up against.
1. IG tank company with vendetta support
2. Black Templars with Land Raiders and a Warhound (?) Scout titan.
3. Tau with fire warrior spam and 2 riptides. Also lots of stealth suits and ghostkeel.
4. Eldar spamming wrath walker things.

List im working with.
Khan, techmarine.
3x 5 bikes with meltaguns, 1 atk bike multimelta.
2x fire raptor gunship


2 raven assault group formations with
5 sternguards and combi melta
Stormraven
Dreadnought

And either knight warden or 2 x xiphon interceptors.

I havent got the interceptors or knight yet. Dont know which would help most against the meta.

Advice is most welcome.

>>47619645
>Warhound
Armed with what?

Can I stick grot sponsons on ANYTHING?

>>47619663
Plasma blast gun or turbo laser. He switches it out occassionally.

>>47619690
Aircraft and/or FMCs are your ticket. I'd suggest GK, SW, or Inquisition. Take a single Drop Pod so you don't lose first turn and then start rolling the flyers on.

>>47619066

Poor statline for starters. WS4 is merely average and that's bad for a melee army, as is I2. Ld7 across the board and no easy access to Fearless means LD based abilities cripple them. Orks are one of the few armies in the game that really get hit hard by Fear. BS2 is very low but in theory is meant to be compensated by having heaps of shots. In practice however Ork weapons don't have high numbers of shots, which leads to the next problem:

Poor upgrade options. The game's iconic assault army has two melee weapon options. That's pathetic. No access to Power Weapons outside of Burnas that are only available to very restricted squads. "Aspekt Boyz" where certain weapons (Burnas, Deffgunz, Snazzgunz) are only available to specific squads. Many options are not worth the upgrade price either which leads to the next problem:

Overcosted. Most Ork units and upgrade options are overpriced for what they do. Exceptions exist (Mek Gunz) but every Ork unit has a critical weakness somewhere that can't be overcome (in the case of Mek Gunz, woeful Leadership and getting swept in assault by virtually anything, including Fire Warriors). Which leads to the next issue:

Poor special rules. Nids and CSM certainly have this too but Orks are especially punished. WAAAGH, one of the most iconic Ork rules, is locked behind have a Warboss as your Warlord, and, along with Ere We Go! does not affect vehicles or shooting, ruling out much of the codex.

>>47619794
reread his first post, he has a list with up wiht four flyers already.
>>47619645
Seems alright, but why the Techmarine? Doesnt Khan count as a chapter master for the Fire Raptors? And i suggest the Xiphons for everyone other than the Warhound, which i would introduce to the business end of the D-sword

>>47619844
>Four
>Enough to take on a Warhound or Wraithknight spam

>>47619645
Check how much recasters are selling Thunderhawks for.

>>47619880
Two fire raptors and two Xiphons are serious business. The Stormravens are forgettable, but six flyers can be really difficult to deal with. And its a good way to deal with spuky d ghosts, as long as he isnt doing the hemlock spam along with his wraiths. Also, thunderhawks are shit for their points

>>47619056
Anyone?

>>47619920
>hemlock spam
why would hemlocks be an issue, they cant hit other flyers with their babbymode guns

>>47619920
Says the guy that recommends a Knight against a Titan that's all but guaranteed to kill it first turn with little to no damage taken.

>>47619336
With all melta scions and fairly lucky deepstrikes, I think I might have been able to do it. Well, maybe against three normal knights. The Atrapos presented the issue of making all my shit -1 S and having D weapons (the other knights were shooty).

Also, I've played 3 games total aside from that one and none of them involved me fighting superheavies.

>>47619935
Meant Crimson Hunter, not hemlock.
>>47619955
>avoid LOS first turn
>charge second
>hope
is a not-awful method of dealing with it, because the Warhound sucks in melee if you can catch it. Better than plinking away every turn, unless you have all six flyers do the ride of the valkyries into its rear on the same turn

>>47618652
since nobody has said anything about it
its a reprint of the same shit from shield of baal: deathstorm, to get people to buy the new broodlord model (i got one second hand long ago, the thing is good)

>>47618870
>Just don't go full retard with formations and suits. Strong armies just require a bit of self control on the part of the player.
not who you were responding to but im looking at starting out with 40k as tau and im just wondering what you mean by that? are you saying that its easier to not go overboard with making expensive suits or something?

>>47620069
formations are a semi-specific combination of units (usually) that give those units a handful of other buffs on top of whatever else they already get, in the case of the higher tier armies, (see: tau, eldar, etc.) you have the problem that the already good units suddenly become extremely good, and it's the player's duty to know when and when not to be a dick usually the player is a fucking dick and thats why he's playing a high tier army in the first place

>>47620026
>Catching a walker that can run and shoot with one that can only run
>Catching a walker that can run twice the same turn if it has to
How exactly do you propose to do that? The first time you ever don't make it to a 7" tall LoS break, he will shoot you four times with his 4 S:D large blasts and deal an expected 11.33 points of damage to your Knight with 6 hull points.

>>47619844
I didnt realise a chapter master was enough for relic of the armoury. In that case ill cut him.

Ill start with xiphons then, and get the warhound later to swap out. My only concern with 6 fliers is that it means the only troops on the board turn 1 are the bikers and then the rest requires reserves to come on.

>>47620202
The real concern with lots of flyers is there limited movement. With a lot of models on the table, you will often find yourself with nowhere to go except off the table.

>>47620169
I saw one caught by one of the melee only knights once which kicked its shit in, and it only got one of two D-blasts to stick which did 4 HP damage
Admittedly he did get a nine-inch charge

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>>47619056
Do some research on some Native American myths, I'd recommend the Flying Head.

>>47620284
Would Cherokee and Chickasaw be recommend or just use myths from Native cultures the French had contact with.

>>47620122
isnt that the point of having formations? taking advantage of whatever buffs you can receive by taking certain units? ive never actually played a game against anyone other than a mate of mine who is getting me into 40k so is this some kind of etiquette thing to not go overboard with formations.

>>47620122
I did a few 1000 pointer lists, for fun I don't play Tau or have Tau models, and went through a few with anons on here.

Would you consider this a 'dick' army?

HQ: Cadre Fireblade (60)
Troop: x5 Fire Warriors (45)
Troop: x5 Fire Warriors (45)
Heavy: Sky Ray Gunship (115)

Formation: Ranged Support Cadre
x4 Pathfinders (44)
x4 Pathfinders (44)
x4 Pathfinders (44)
x3 Broadsides with HYMP (195)
x3 Broadsides with HYMP with Advanced Targeting Systems (204)
x3 Broadsides with Heavy Rail Rifle with Advanced Targeting Systems (204)

Total: 1000

>>47620379
Some formations give more benefits than taking a set amount of units should give.

>>47620274
And I've seen an Exorcist drop a Thunderhawk in one shot. Doesn't mean it's a situation that's ever going to happen again.

>>47620380
i've never seen the ranged support cadre in action, but it doesnt look like fun to be up against

>>47619329
Well it really depends on a few factors such as the player and the list build.

All the Tyranid players in my area sold their armies (they were welcomed additions to my swarm) because the 7th ed codex, but I've heard Orks and Dark Eldar have been struggling. All in all I'd have to say the Orks seem to struggle the most in my experiences.

Nothing like 300+ orks vs 500+ Tyranids though, good times

>>47620538
Proper terrain renders it pretty impotent, as it's mostly immobile.

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So what is "The Best" point limits?
For the bonus round, what's the best point limit for friendly and for tournys?

Personally 2k is reaching the point where it just takes too long for a reasonable fun game

>>47620380
Take the Drone Net formation instead of the CAD.

>>47620584
I like 1500 because War Convo just barely clocks in under that.

>>47620584
1750 or 1850, although they're meme points. 1500 is okay, but it's frustrating because it's always not quite enough to do what you want to do. I'd personally prefer 1250 to 1500.

>>47620584
1500. 2000 is good if you're both wanting to bring a superheavy in as most of them do clock in at around 500 points.

>>47620584
if someone tries to play a pick-up game with you at 1850 be very weary, they might just be a tourneyfag trying to test out their netlist

>>47620663
Why not just have a better list than their netlist? Or have a worse list and beat them anyway? I have an SoB army I usually end up playing at 1850 that rarely gets stomped, even by tier 1 armies.

>>47620574
proper terrain is hard to come by at my flgs, the only players who really care about it here are other players using bottom tier armies since most of us don't have guns that can prop up and fire over buildings from across the table

>>47620422
so formations are overpowered or unbalanced?

>>47620723
They could be cool if factions got them in equal amounts and quality.

>>47620723
Some are interesting and fluffy and make some weaker units more viable. Some just make you take shitloads of the best unit in your army, and then give you extra bonuses on top of that.

>>47620696
then more power to you

>>47620723
like other anon said, some make weaker units more viable like the endless swarm or synaptic swarm for nids for example, and some take your favorite cookie cutter unit and make it incredibly powerful like the riptide wing

>>47620802
would the solution to having massively powerful formations perhaps be introducing slightly more restrictive parameters as to their deployment or use in order to further specialise them without making them better across the board?

>>47620696
the problem isn't that netlists are inherently powerful, rather that it's almost the same dilemma as playing against the same few people over and over: there's no variety and it gets old quick, even quicker when its a handful of people all playing the exact same list because its what did well at the LVO

>>47620850
The issues with formations are almost entirely idiosyncratic to themselves. There are very few universal changes you could make that would improve upon where they are now. The real issue is stuff like Riptide Wing, wraith host, hell even the infernal tetrad can be a real downer.

>>47620850
The solution is to just not make stupid formations like the Riptide Wing, Wraith Host, Librarius Conclave, and Skyhammer Annihilation Force. Battle Company and Stormlance should be among the very top tier of formations.

>>47620850
i feel as if the massive power that comes with these formations is part and parcel with how undercosted/overpowered the units that are a part of them are themselves

>>47620915
Some of it yeah.

If i'm already taking three riptides give me one good reason why I shouldn't take them as a Riptide Wing, tip: you can't, there are literally no downsides.

>>47621028
You're right, but since i wouldn't play you anyway for taking 3 Tides you lose nothing :^)

>>47621053
Correct, this is why I don't play tau in the first place. It was merely a hypothetical redundant question.

so when you're firing at units inside an open topped transport vehicle, do they get a cover save?

>>47621233
you can't fire directly at units inside an open topped vehicle unless it is a template weapon with using No Escape USR

>>47621268
so do i have the option of leaving my marines inside my drop pod when i deep strike?

>>47621328
nm found it
>Once a Drop Pod lands, all passengers must disembark and no models can
embark for the rest of the game.

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>>47621566
you gave me the feels

>>47621566
you know, emps wasn't really the "good guy", Horus was just worse is all.

Anyone got any fun lists based around the Black Legion?

Is taking a land raider to a 750 point game overkill?

>>47621660
usually if you have to ask it probably is

>>47621642
abby, a squad of terminators in a land raider to escort him

and two squads of fully decked out chosen with rhinos

should come close to 1850 points

>>47621660
Huge waste of points.

does anyone else paint or collect units without the intention of playing with them? ive got a tau army but im really tempted to just buy the space marine starter kit and the black templars chapter upgrade and then just assemble and paint them because they look awesome and id want that stuff on my desk to look at.

>>47621712
what if its a land raider redeemer, though?

>>47621767
Even worse as the flamers don't work very well.

>>47621767
chaos land raiders don't have power of the machine spirit.

>>47620538
I hoped it wouldn't be insanely hard, but not stupidly easy, to beat. I could do a formation like so...

>>47620586
I made other armies...

HQ: Fireblade (60)
Troop: x5 Fire Warriors (45)
Troop: x5 Fire Warriors (45)
[Heavy Retribution Cadre]
x1 Ghostkeel (130)
x1 Stormsurge (360)
x1 Stormsurge (360)

Total: 1000

>>47621635
Emps was a pragmatist, Horus was a (albeit, tricked) idealist.

>>47621823
Chaos don't get land raider redeemers.

>>47621872
wrong post.

meant to comment on the abbadon list idea

>>47621892
they don't get land raider redeemers but you don't need them. Just take four terminators and abby (base squad size is three), put them in a chaos land raider

then two squads of ten chosen with rhinos and as many upgrades as you can

>>47621913
no, i said chaos land raiders don't get power of the machine spirit

>>47621566
>Say something I'm giving up on you
>Horus's last words were "I'm sorry father, finish it."

>>47621892
Too late now, you'll have to live with this shame.

>>47622022
That's after he blubbered "I was wrong :( Sorry father :( I am not stwong enuff :(" and then Emps MIND BULLETS him.

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>>47618737
Shit man stop spending money on plastic crack and see a doctor. Hemorrhoids almost never bleed that much. If your sitting on a bowel cancer then getting it treated early is the difference between a comepletely cured cancer and a few year (at best) prognosis due to metastatic cancer.

>>47622109
>Not https://youtu.be/9u9ymiSmtXY

I bought the Dark Vengence box set because i thought terminators and librarians looked sweet as fuck. I just learned about Grey Knights. Fuck man! Are they good? Do people play em? No one at the store I was at plays em.

>>47622283
The Terminators and Librarians can be used for Grey Knights if you cover up their markings and shit, but that might be beyond your current skill level (assuming you've never touched the hobby before, plz no bully if I'm wrong, usually am ;_;).

As for Grey Knights, the problem is, they excelled when you could decide what model got wounded. Normally this is irrelevant, as 1 wound will kill pretty much every infantry unit in the game, but the Grey Knights had 2W Paladins. This meant you just gave 1 wound to each model, so nobody actually died without serious firepower on them. It allowed characters to get into combat as well. This was still fine in 5th edition due to various amazing things the Grey Knights had due to the Inquisition in the codex. Then 7th came and they lost all their best shit. +1S autocannon Dreads? Gone. +1S Redeemer/Crusader weapons? Gone. The one weapon which could threaten the 2+/5++ models, which were '''cheap''', Plasma? Well slap a Plasma Siphon down and watch them all kill themselves. Those got removed.

So, unfortunately, this means that the awesome Terminators and 2W Paladins are kinda useless. Having 2W is great if you have T6, hell T5 would do. But they have T4. This means a S8 AP2 shot will instant kill them, regardless of the 2W. Since S8+ AP2 is plentiful and many have Blast, it is just not worth taking 40+ point models which die just as easy as your 20 point models. Essentially, Grey Knights work, if you don't make use of their fluff. You have to run the Power Armoured dudes, Dreadknights and ally in Inquisition and other things.

They also suffer from Pre-Vanilla update, so their Dreads have 2A base instead of 4A. They also have no access to Grav Weapons, despite literally having their own private Forge World with access to apparently every single STC the Ad Mech have. Should have Grav and shit everywhere. They look great and they have no debuff for some psyker shit.