who wins /tg/?

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TWENTY GOOD MEN are stronger than the twenty primarchs

>>47579652
That guy who made that list... I want to know what he was on.

>>47579626
Space marine without a fight. However with twenty good men Ramsay could take down the Ultramarines legion at peak strength

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>>47579652
But sadly, they're a half baked bunch.

>>47579782
Helmless Space Marine. The power levels are too lopsided for Shirtless Ramsay's plot armor to compensate.

Speaking of which, wasn't the book Ramsay a fatass?

>>47579968
>Ramsay is an ugly young man, even when dressed finely. He is big boned and slope shouldered, with a fleshiness indicating he will be fat later in life. Ramsay's skin is pink and blotchy, his nose broad, his hair long and dark and dry. Although his mouth is small, Ramsay's lips are wide and meaty, wormy looking, and he smiles a wet-lipped smile. His distinctive eyes resemble Roose's - small, close-set, and oddly pale, like two chips of dirty ice.

>>47580040
this seems to be a recurring thing with GRRM seriously

>indicating he will be fat later in life

it's like he's trying to tell us that shit is inevitable because of genetics so he can excuse his being fat in real life

>>47580040
> fleshiness indicating he will be fat later in life
The fuck does this even mean.

GRRM is just inserting fat fantasies into his books now isn't he.

>>47579626
Shirtless Ramsay and 2 puppies are better than 20 elite deathworlders.

20 guardsmen hit the space marine 10 times, wound 3.33 times. Power armor saves 2.22 wounds, 1.11 go through.

So Ramsay can certainly kill a space marine, he just needs to make his 3++ plot armor save first.

>>47579968
Hell no. He defeated one of the better generals with 20 good men and a bunch of horse riders.
That space marine better be a fookin legend if he wants to survive.

>>47579968
Mostly just ugly

>>47580058
Nah, most fatties just start eating too much early and can't stop

>>47580058
>>47580079
Or that people who are pudgy when they're younger tend to keep gaining weight. On a related note I have no idea how Sam keeps his weight though. That pretty much has to be genetics

>>47579626
Lets kick this up a notch:

Ramsay is joined by Twenty Good Men, but he also just threatened to rape Daenerys.

The Helmless Space Marine is now bald, and believes Ramsay is an Avatar of Khaine, but the Codex Astartes does not support this action.

Now who wins?

>>47580091
I see. Carry on.
>>47580090
Remember that space marines are bio-cyborg super soldiers, not just warriors. Sure, a rank-and-file space marine may be jumped by a bunch of ordinary men, but legends like Cato Sicarius, Kharn the Betrayer, or Khaldo Draigo will wipe them out.

>>47580126
Genetics do not ignore basic laws of thermodinamics.
If the food is short, the weather is cold and the exercise is high, you gotta thin sooner or latter.

>>47579652
>Benjamin Netanayhu

>>47580151
If the Space Marine is named Titus, he wins. If he is named Leandros, Ramsay wins.

>>47580151
>Ramsay is joined by Twenty Good Men, but he also just threatened to rape Daenerys.
>but he also just threatened to rape Daenerys.
GAME OVER, RAM, GAME OVER.

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>>47580165

>>47580126
>>47580163
I'm sure he lost weight, but he probably went from morbidly obese to obese

Not like he was very active. Dude is a steward.

>>47580216
Shit, Israel is basically a fantasy kingdom. Their leaders are their greatest warriors, and almost every adult is trained to kill.

>>47580338
>Scrawny Jew specialised in stabbing people in the back
>Greatest Warrior

Sort of pathetic really

Matchup here.

In the right corner is Ramsay Bolton who has just taken his shirt of and is dual-wielding a pair of knives. With him is twenty good men. He has been legitimized by his father.

In the right corner is a Fookin' Legend, aka Karl "Noblebane" Tanner, who is also dual-wielding a pair of knives. He is somewhat intoxicated and has just told a monologue about his glory days Flea Bottom. He has also been contracted to kill Ramsay for the price of seven silver coins.

The battlefield is a poorly lit alley and the time is midnight.

Who wins?

>>47580407
fookin legend is dead man

he might have been good with a knife but he had no plot armor in the end

>>47580483
He really only had enough plot armor to fight off a guy with a sword for a little while when he just had a knife (which admittedly is a fair amount, but not nearly enough here)

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I like where this thread is going

>>47580367
How else do you defeat someone with a gun? Firearms are the great equalizer, gentlemen- at least, physically. No longer are the greatest warriors the strongest people, no, now our greatest warriors are our most cunning. When combat is most often won by he who is able to attack first, he who attacks without warning is mighty.

>>47580367
Odysseus called, he wants to stab you in the eye and make your friends hate you.

>>47580367
Matkal is the Israeli equivalent of Delta Force. Back in his active service days, Bibiyahu was probably deadlier than Mememir Putin ever was.

>>47580126
Weight is energy in minus energy out. Everything leftover gets added on as weight. Genetics plays 0 role in that.

>>47579626
The guy with the gun.

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>>47580649

>Get funded by American to kill vastly undergeared muslims

>Compare yourself to Odysseus for shooting untrained muslims in the back

Isreal ladies and gentlemen, the world's greatest cowards.

>Shirtless
>In the North
>20 Good men
everyone is fucking dead

>>47579626
>ITT, people who don't know anything about medieval warfare

Ramsay's ridiculously lopsided victories are nothing unusual in history. Like the time 1,600 Frenchmen killed over 15,000 Aragonese troops.

>>47580971
did they have dogs

>>47580118
obesity has been linked to a bacteria

meaning that if you live with fat people who have this bacteria, chances are you'll get the bacteria and become fat too

>>47580162
>bio-cyborg super soldiers
>anywhere near comparable to plot armor

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>>47580407
>yfw Manderly's Pies advertisement plays

>>47579626
Ramsay wins, because that would be the grimmest and darkest outcome of the fight.

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>>47579652
>XIII
XIII!
XIII!
XIII!

>>47581078
>implying HBO's plot armor beats GW's plot armor

>>47581244
>implying HBO won't just MONEY their way to victory

>>47581281
>implying even money stops an ultra-smurf

>>47579652
>no captain scarlet
>wanting to lose

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>>47580971
More the fact that the fifty "best killers" of a kingdom (which one assumes refers both to their skill with weapons and ferocity) would flee from their prince's torturer after catching him half-naked because he had some dogs with him.

>>47580407
why are they both in the same corner?

>>47581625
knife fights naturally fight close and both are dirty

>>47581281

>implying GW won't outmoney HBO in a week

>>47581801
>implying they wont use this opportunity to make obscene amounts of money from their customers

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>>47580165

He was an Israeli commando back in the day. I think he participated on that Uganda airport raid when some Amin allies seized that jet. That or his brother did. His brother I think got kill and there may have been some father-issues in that his dad celebrated and lauded his brother more than Bibi. Judging by the experiences of US presidents among others however as photogenic as Netanyahu is he's a giant cold-fish jackass. A rather telling case is how Clinton had a proto bromance with then Israeli PM Yitzhak Rabin. Absolutely loved the guy, got along swimmingly with him, utterly devastated when Rabin was kill by nutjob Israeli assassin. Then along comes Netanyahu and the interpersonal relations between the white house and Israeli version of the white house goes 180 degrees. So it speaks to how much of an obtuse jerk the man is that an administration otherwise highly sympathetic and supportive suddenly finds their

Another and utterly hilarious ancedote of White-house & Israeli relations is what Ronald Reagan did with the Israeli PM Begin (and once member of terrorist organization Lehi, which assassinated the Swede Folke Bernadotte who was trying to arrange peace between the Arabs and Israelis in 1948). During the Lebanese-Israel war in the 80s:

>"The bombing of Beirut is a holocaust," Reagan told then prime minister Menachem Begin, who responded by saying, "Mr. President, I know very well what a holocaust is."
>Begin's father, mother and older brother were killed during the holocaust.

I think the awkwardness and tension among Reagan and Begin's aids was so thick you could stir it with a spoon. And I can't help but find such a faux pas comment by Reagan to be fucking hilarious. Not even anything related to abloobloobloo the Palestinians abloobloobloo the Jews.

>>47581483
>implying money doesn't make the world go around
>implying lives aren't the Emperor's currency

>>47580999
No, you're just fat because you can't exercise basic self control. Or just exercise, period.

>>47580987
Better.

They had God.

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>>47582363
Was it a Dog God?

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>>47582443
yes

>>47582275
No. Anon is right, new studies show that your gut flora directly influence your metabolism and ability to gain or lose weight. Depending on what lives in your gut, you can eat a stable diet yet suddenly start gaining weight for no reason. A woman semi-recently had a stool transplant to recolonize the flora of her gut after they were purged in another procedure (she had no bacteria to speak of in her large intestine), but the new bacteria changed her metabolism and she gained like forty pounds in a couple months despite eating the exact same diet, and previously being fairly thin.

Science in general is showing more and more that free will is an illusion and your fate is more decided by your DNA and other factors in your body including microbial life.

>>47582162
there are people out there who say bibi is a master of realpolitik. those people are very,very wrong. at this point, i'm convinced that he derives sexual pleasure from biting the metaphorical hand that feeds

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>>47579652
>VII
>Not immediately murdering Ramsay upon learning literally anything about him.
I don't buy it, anon.

>>47583080

>implying he would be able to beat Ramsay and the other 19 good men
>implying he wouldn't suffer the same fate as the Mannis

>>47580805
>to kill vastly undergeared muslims

While they're no Israel or US, Hezbollah actually is pretty well equipped and competent (probably the most competent and well-equipped anti-Israeli force, actually), at least the "card-carrying" members are. They don't talk all that much about their actual tactics and try to keep their combat footage off the internet to prevent Israel and other forces from figuring out exactly what they're capable of. They're arms are standardized as much as they can be, and they have some pretty solid hardware.

Point is, they're an actual military fighting force, instead of a bunch of dudes with beat-down AK's in a stolen pickup truck.

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>>47580151
>Codex Astartes does not support this action
>threatened to rape Daenerys

Tie. The Space Marine heroically kills Ramsay and the 20 Good Men, but succumbs to his wounds. Dany cradles him in her arms as he dies, and swears to finally conquer Westeros in vengeance for his heroic sacrifice.
She then gets distracted for 3,000 pages.

>>47582811
That's exactly the thing: the hand keeps feeding. Realpolitik is all about doing the smart thing, not the right thing. If he knows that he can afford to keep biting and it'll keep feeding (and that's been the case for the past decade or so), it'd be stupid for him to stop.

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>>47579652

>>47579626

God, I fucking hate the show. So fucking much.

>>47587019
>>47580941
>>47580151
>>47580090
>>47579652
Is this what being an old man feels like? Have I finally gone past my prime? These maymays, they're too hot and fresh for a man like me now. My gums are too soft, and they're not as sweet as the Rage I grew up on. Where are the pastas I knew about? Have I finally become that old man who grumbles at young folk?

>>47581281
>Implying HBO won't plummet right back into cultural irrelevancy as soon as Game of Thrones finally lurches to the inevitably-unsatisfying conclusion.

>>47582275
>every single non-obese person on the planet exercises regularly and eats a well-balanced diet with lots of fruits and vegetables
Is this really the hill you want to die on?

>>47582811
>takes what he wants
>gets away with it
Seems like he's pretty good at it to me.

>>47583950
>Can take Space Marine because of plot armor
>Can take Marvel badass because of plot armor
Have you checked who *made* that plot armor, again? This does not seem the sturdiest story in which to shout 'I'm invincible'.

>>47587176
While you may be old, all that this thread means is that you think that Game of Thrones is shit.
You are right.

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>>47580040
Some fairly old fan art of Roose, Ramsay, and Reek. At least what my friends all were expecting, as it's been around for fucking ever.

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>>47587340
And then another.

>>47587195
Not even him, but if you're fat, you're a fatass. Every not-obese person might not be that way because of diet and exercise, but damn near ever fat fuck is that way because they shovel burgers into their massive gullet. Combined with the fact that modern consumerism makes eating healthy harder, so poor people tend to get stuck in a shitty cycle where they keep eating processed shit that makes them disgusting fat even while giving them shit for nutrition.

>>47587195
He doesn't have to die there. He can basically just out-jog them
>>47587180
It's not like it's the only popular show HBO's ever had. Presumably there are even ones that don't fuck up books

>>47587180
It's already shit anon but they've made plenty of money & are continuing to despite the costs per episode. Also they've had other shows too.

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Here is the official Ramsay artwork

>>47582162
Yeah, Bibi's kind of an asshole. Unfortunately for Israel (as well as the rest of the world) there aren't many good alternatives to him.

>>47581581
Yes, but were those best killers also good men?

>>47587019
>Darth Nihilus
Wouldn't just Darth Vader be better?
Nihilus kills everything.

>>47580090
Captain Titus

Consider this

Dio Brandoz wielding all his knives and has za warudo at full stando poweru, is standing in a barely lit alleyway at night, having just been insulted by Jotaro and getting triggered over seeing those in the Joestar bloodline. The World can stop time for approximately 9 seconds consistently, and that gap is growing. He has 3 people nearby that he can absorb blood from, and Pet Shop is still alive with his stand.

Or, we have 2 space marines with 2 bolters that are hungry for battle and have just lost some brothers in battle. Helmets are off, and they're certain DIO is a chaos god's thrall/avatar. They have back up in the form of extra equipment to deal with DIO. They have back up on the way, in the form of a dedicated vampire/heretic removal agent. Who wins?

>>47582162
Yitzhak Rabin was a bro, sucks that he died. Dude was trying to make peace with most of Israels neighbors and was genuinely open to negotiating with the Palestinians, he was more or less universally liked except by some ultra-orthodox jackasses. If he hadn't been assassinated I don't things would be nearly as bad as they are now.

>>47590202
More importantly, though, he was SUCEEDING at making peace with Israel's neighbours.