/tgesg/ - Weekend Elder Scrolls Lore General

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Threadly reminder to remove n'wah scum.

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Remember, Sotha Sil is the best god because he's the only one that knows how to fix your computer.

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>>47501566
damn straight

>>47501566
>>47501571
Could you build a computer in TES using hundreds of raised corpses

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>>47501597
What do you think the Necromancer's Moon looks like.

>>47501597
Well yeah, that's how Mannimarco shitposts on sporechan

>>47501597
Just take over the Soul Cairn.

>>47501566
I like him because he's presented in the canon as sort of a tragic figure; the member of the Tribunal that was probably once the most compassionate out of all of them, but grew isolated and introverted in godhood. It makes the few things he does do far more interesting because you have no idea why he's doing it, and in Tribunal you actually think he's a bad guy until it's too late, and even the brief glimse we get of him is that of an inhuman, broken figure that is possibly more machine than man, and we can't honestly tell if he looks Chimer or Dwemer or something more mannish. That's the power of Sotha Sil, really - the mystery, the mysticism (which he was portrayed as having a great understand of) of him. The only impressions you get of him are brief and rare, but are all the more powerful for its impact. You can't really call him the forgotten member of the Tribunal just because that sort of portrayal forces him to stick in your mind.

So that's why I find any attempt to explain him, humanize him, or add detail to him and his motivations to be in poor taste. It takes away from the tragedy of his shift from a human to very inhuman figure, and takes away the impact he has on the player/reader, and the fact that he is very open to interpretation on if he was good, bad, or far too neutral. All you get is a broken mask and a rictus scream.

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>>47501648
Forgot pic because I'm a faggot

>>47501648
That would be valid if Sotha Sil didn't have characterization and motivation in tons of other canon works.

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>>47501659
And a lot of him lacking fluff was because they ran out of time.

>>47501671
you know what could have helped them with running out of time?
a dragon break

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>>47501671
Considering what else Bethesda hasn't managed to get enough focus on, I'm willing to take Sotha Sil not getting the limelight he might deserve. Almalexia isn't that fluffed out, and Vivec is very mysterious even though the player gets to talk to him a lot in Morrowind. I still don't even know how they saw or treated each other - were they comrades in deceit, reluctant allies, or even friends who understood each other where no one else possibly could?

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>>47501648

''Young Sotha Sil, while playing in the egg mines, saw a number of scribs in a deep shaft, and he began to cast stones upon them, snickering as they skittered and scattered, until one of the scribs, lifting its head up in agony, cried out to Sotha Sil: "Please, please, have mercy, little boy, for what is sport to you is suffering and death to us."
And so Sotha Sil discovered that the idle of amusements of one may be the solemn tortures of another.''

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>>47501682
Dragoning the break because you want more time is like chopping off your dick because you want to get laid more.

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>>47501695
They liked each other enough to have threesomes

>>47501695
I'm pretty sure that at the time of Morrowind they hadn't talked in ages.

Vivec keeps the ghostgate up alone while Sotha Sil and Almalexia are doing other things.

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>>47501710
JUSTICE

DEATH TO THE WAIFUFAGS

>>47501710
trainwiz I'm still waiting for justification on why you think TLD is immortal, because the rejoining akatosh in death deal really doesn't count. Being infowiped and having your soul resources re-consumed by a bigger soul doesn't constitute continued existence any more than the other mortals as far as I can tell.

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>>47501701
That was a children's book meant to teach moral lessons. That would be like using a picturebook version of the bible to explain the character of Jesus.

>>47501710
Pelinal and Morihaus vs. the Tribunal, who would win?

>>47501755
>who would win?
the audience

>>47501712
>they hadn't talked in ages
They did communicate enough to lose Sunder and Keening at Red Mountain only ten years before the Nerevarine stepped in.

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>>47501747
I don't remember talking about LBD being immortal. I can't find anything in my post history. I talk about the Nerevarine being immortal.
I mean if you want a reason at least, Miraak as Henrietta Mora's slave apparently was able to stay alive for untold centuries Something was keeping him alive, and the Dragonborn inherited that position.

>>47501779
Hammar in the librarium says that the dragonborn is somewhat immortal by virtue of being a fragment of akatosh when asked how to become immortal, I wanted to understand the logic and sources as to why you thought this to be the case.

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>>47501804
You said it yourself, he's a fragment of akatosh. That's what Hammar means by "sort of immortal"

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>>47501779
It feels like a lot of the heroes are getting excused in some way or another to be left in the wings for a later date. Nerevarine is vaguely missing, Hero of Kvatch is a god, and LBD is probably in Miraak's place...

I swear, if c0da doesn't have all the past heroes deciding to hold together creation and giving the elves the plot device they need to not get totally fucked so they can escape to the moons, then I deserve MK's drug coffin.

>>47501804
Dragons were immortal yet were still apparently capable of being killed off. Immortality is weird in TES. The other dragonborns either ended up as gods but still "died". It seems to translate to "special soul privileges" seeing as I can't think of anything in TES that is truly immortal, in the sense that it's invincible. Even the Tribunal with their powers could die, they'd just reform later.

>>47501817
That's a bit of a dodgey answer, because other than saying that there's no real proof that being a fragment makes you live longer. All known dragonborn besides mirrak have either died in battle at a normal age or appear to have died of natural causes like illness and old age, and upon death the soul of a dragonborn rejoins with akatosh, suffering infodeath, so that doesn't really sound like immortality in any way. Was the statement by Hammar more a deflection of the question rather than a proper answer?

>>47501836
That's just it, I'd like to know what hammar means by "somewhat immortal", because I can't find any situation of a dragonborn naturally living longer or being less vulnerable in body or spirit than any other normal mortal. I mean, sure, their soul resources get sent to one place normally rather than dispersed and re-used like other mortal souls, but the end result is their soul loses its identity as far as I can tell. The only counterpoint to that is that dragons can be revived, suggesting that while in the akatosh mothersoul they still retain individual identity, but that's a bit of a stretch.

apologies for the autism on my part for the matter, but Hammar's statement just does not seem accurate.

>>47501877
Well what dragonborns do we know of? All the ones we do know of also went on to become gods.

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>>47501877
>I'd like to know what hammar means by "somewhat immortal"

Superpowers and godhood.

>>47501894
Alyssa and Reman died and, unless I missed something, did not ascend to physical godhood beyond becoming culture heroes. Tiber and Wulfharth both got out of being joined to Akatosh by joining themselves to Lorkhan, which doesn't exactly make things much different for them, save the power level of the god they chose, and Mirrak's likely only being kept alive by Mora rather than being able to just live that long, though I would be happy if he actually was able to just up and live that long.

Really, the argument here as I see it is "Akatosh is immortal, dragonborn are fragments of Akatosh therefore dragonborn are immortal", but there really isn't a whole lot of evidence to suggest this. All canon dragonborn save the two skyrim guys have proper death dates, and the ones that didn't get merged into Akatosh seemed to have only changed the god they did get merged into.

That said, I may be lacking information, does anyone know anything about Alyssa or Reman that could help counter my argument? I would like to know more, TLD being canon immortal in some definable way would please me, but I just do not see how they could be with what I've read.

>>47502020
Cultural hero-gods are more or less gods. Reman especially.

Altmer are just really tall, really pretty goblins.
Prove me wrong.

>>47502075
They keep goblin slaves. Why would they keep slaves of their own race?

>>47502100
honestly it wouldn't surprise me if altmer kept the weak-minded or frail of their kind as slaves.

I'm in an Elder Scrolls mood, but I'm not sure what to play.

I haven't really gotten into Daggerfall and I want to wait for Daggerfall XL/Daggerfall Unity to be developed more.

I kind of want to replay Morrowind and I think it's been long enough that I've forgotten most of it. How's OpenMW? How's Skywind?

There's always ESO, although even when it's on sale it seems pretty expensive. I'm not really into MMOs either.

>>47501703
Well dragon is the part associated with time, so wouldn't it be breaking your dragon because you want more time

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>>47501821
Dang does the LDB look awesome, but also kinda out of place.

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>>47502221
>Skywind

I like some of their artwork, but I don't see any hope for the project.

>>47502100
It would be like humans having human slaves, can you imagine that? Oh, wait...

>>47502221
You can get ESO for 10 bucks, I think it's worth 10 bucks.

>>47502360
But you don't get the dlc with it

>>47502325
I don't see what you mean.

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>>47502360
Not that guy but I considered getting it on sale just so I could walk around, check the landscapes and check the cities, if the gameplay has anything to it then that's just a bonus.

Unfortunately I don't have enough space on my hard drive to download it.

>>47502354
But at least in TES, humans don't keep human slaves. They don't really practice much slavery at all. Even dunmer rarely enslave their own kin, preferring beast races and humans.

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>>47502375
Dragonbone armor, Konahriik's mask, 2 elder scrolls, Miraak's staff, Miraak's sword.

>>47502390
There are dunmer slaves IIRC, and you have to see them as more or less equally sentient beings enslaving each other, just like the European did with more or less equally sentient beings.

>>47502415
I worded that terribly, I mean that humans also seldom enslaved their people, they mostly enslaved other races.

>>47502438
You mean real life or in TES?

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>>47502390
Usually n'wahs in any case. Or Houseless bastards, must be.
Otherwise their thil would come to their aid.

>>47502401
The pictures seem to be assuming those are what the heroes are like at the end of their respective games, having gotten the best stuff.

The Eternal Champion has Chrysamere, Jagar Tharn's Staff, and what I assume is pretty good armor. The Agent has Spellbreaker, the Staff of Magus and the Totem of Tiber Septim. The Nerevarine has Sunder and Wraithguard, as well as both the Fork of Horripilation and the Spear of Bitter Mercy.

I guess it's weird that they included stuff from the DLC for the Skyrim character, but the Champion of Cyrodiil is obviously stuck as Sheogorath, which would mean completing the Shivering Isles DLC...so I guess the artist just forgot the Morrowind DLCs. Eh. Still nothing really weird about TLD.

>>47502447
Real life

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>>47502564
Read the conversation

>>47502493
Morrowind had expansion packs, though.

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>>47502601
But humans do enslave their own race, an act often fueled by the acquisiton of slaves by separate groups.
Though I have no idea why this should even be discussed in this specific weekend thread.
We should be discussing the SUPERIOR MER.

>>47502602
Like I said, I guess he just forgot. Still doesn't make the Dragonborn particularly weird.

>>47502640
No, you said DLC.

I'm being autistic because DLC is cancer and expansion packs provided actual things.

Sorry.

>>47502674
Skyrim had expansions, not DLC.

>>47502708
Pft. Naw. Not like how expansions used to be. You used to get big shit or entirely new games, now it's just a few maps or a gimmick.

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>>47502673
> straight white male Tribunals
Wat?

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>>47502725
Hearthfire was good (it didn't add a lot but it was cheaper so it's ok), dawnguard was ok but dragonborn was fucking fantastic.

>>47503060
I am of poor.

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You see those cliff racers? You can kill them.

>>47503089
Legendary edition Skyrim can get pretty cheap on steam sales, you could pick it up then.

>>47503089
You can pirate the expansions on a legit copy...

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>>47503254
See, breaking the law shouldn't be an actual recommendation
This isn't "day one dlc on disk" that's just trying to get more money from you

>>47503367
I know, I know, Bethesda's expansions are amongst the few I pay for, but if the guy has no money and the game's 5 years old...

>>47502221
OpenNW is fully playable.

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>>47503254
You can pirate the expansions on a pirate copy.

>>47501821
Why no Hero of Kvatch?

>>47503695
He's in the background.

>>47503710
Ahh. Thank you. I did not see that.

>>47502493
>The Eternal Champion has Chrysamere, Jagar Tharn's Staff, and what I assume is pretty good armor.
He's wearing plate armour, and has the Oghma Infinium with him.

>Totem
That's the Mantella.

>>47503604
I think the guy owns the game, but not the expansions

>>47504265
That means he's an idiot. Just like me.

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>>47504338
Same

>>47502493
The Nerevarine is carrying the Spear of the Hunter, though, which you got in Bloodmoon.

>>47502493
The funny thing is that Nerevarine wears the Boots of Blinding Speed.

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>>47504725
> The funny thing is that Nerevarine wears the Boots of Blinding Speed.
Boots of Blinding Speed do not blind you, if you use them with Royal Signet Ring. Those Boots were actually pretty cool, once you have items to negate their blinding effect.

>>47504816
>not spending 200 septims on an easy to cast 100% resist magic for 1 second
I bet you don't even have levitate, filthy martial.

>>47504816
>Waiting till Tribunal to use them.
Just use a spell of resist magicka 100 or 50% for 1 second, or use Savior's Hide.

>>47504846
My N'wah! Boots of blinding speed and an enchantment or spell of Levitate 1 point for 90 seconds, any travel is no longer an issue.

I like to hear a helm with googles like Boiled Netch Leather or Dark Brotherhood when I fly, though. Helps me roleplay that my eyes don't dry out.

>>47503710
"Hey, asshole! I want my fork back!"

>>47502385
Most of the cities look almost eactly the same, which is a real shame, but some landscapes are indeed nice. Also honestly, for a MMO it's a pretty good game and I'm saying it as a person who generally dislikes multiplayer games. It's even not really bad plotwise as long as you treat it as fanfiction and ignore lore fucking (which isn't THAT visible for a casual tes player anyway)

>>47504846
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>>47504897
>metagaming
Faggets.

>>47505368
Morrowind was pretty much 100% about gaming the system.

Because the game was cheating, too.

>>47505391
Maybe if you are an n'wah.

>>47505368
sorry

>>47505413
> Maybe if you are an n'wah.
There is no way to not be an n'wah in Morrowind. Even after defeating Dagoth Ur and saving Morrowind from the Sixth House, you are still an outlander.

>>47505368
>wanting to walk around mountains
>wanting to deal with being attacked by rats and kwama every minute
I bet you don't use mark or recall either.

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Why did the Dwemer build a giant robot out of FUCKING BRASS?

>>47505504
My brain doesn't even recognize creatures with less than 120 hp.

>>47505506
They planned to reinforce it with themselves

>>47505506
> Why did the Dwemer build a giant robot out of FUCKING BRASS?
Because it is their dwemeri magical brass. Metallurgy works way different in TES compared to RL

>>47505368
It's possible to roleplay some part and not roleplay others.

>>47504897
>I like to hear a helm with googles like Boiled Netch Leather or Dark Brotherhood when I fly, though
now THIS is cliff racing

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>>47505114
Argh, I wanna see unique architecture in each city. Morrowind had architecture based on great house affiliation, each Oblivion city was unique, Skyrim not so much (5 unique cities, 4 generic) but it's still there.

What's a good place I can use as a home in Morrowind? Maybe one of those Velothi towers?

>>47505555
quads of truth

>>47506027
As a sneaky character, kill some random pleb and take their house. you get a quest in the Fighter's Guild to kill some orc in Balmora, you can use their house. Or you can do the sensible thing and become a Telvanni. Mushroom towers are best.

>>47506027
Hlaalo Manor, you even have an assistant in a room. Too bad you can't clean up your room.

>>47506027
Just shove everything in the corpse of a noble, like a true outlander

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>>47506074
I'm already using one of the shacks in Seyda Neen so it's not really about needing a place, but wanting a fancy place.

>>47506141
Noble corpses are fancy

>>47506151
It's funny when he automatically equips lots of random gear I drop on him.

>>47506151
I wanna arrange my alchemy apparatuses and magical artifacts on tables and shelves, maybe create my own little museum.

>>47506202
there are some tables and shelves in Hlaalo manor you can empty.

>>47505977
Well, unfortunately in most cases in ESO every city in a particular province have practicly identical architecture and only the layout is different. Pretty much the only exceptions I can think of are Windhelm and Riften, because they tried to make them at least somehow similiar to their Skyrim equivalents. So no, cities unnfortuately are not a strong point of ESO which is a shame, because they could do a lot with unique cities. Even the rare ones that actually look kinda unique like Elden Root don't really have anything special about them except for the looks.

>>47506407
>Riften
every time I think about how a bunch of angry peasants torched a wooden castle in a wooden town then burned to death, I giggle a bit.

>>47506407
so much buildings are carbon copies of each other, I wonder where the 40gb went, voices only?

>>47506646
*many

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So, /tgesg/onians. Where were you when the dragon broke?

>>47506646
Well, you know regardless of the copy pasted concent the game still is pretty massive and the amount of quests and locations for each of the three alliances could easily make a standalone single player game, regardless of much smaller amount of possibilities. I mean Cyrodill itself is about its size in Oblivion.

>>47506780
> So, /tgesg/onians. Where were you when the dragon broke?
Watching JoJo's Bizzare Adventure.

>>47506790
Is there a comparision of some sort?

>>47506979
I don't have any map image or anything, but I'm 90% sure it's supposed to be the same size and when you travel through Cyrodil ingame it indeed seems to be the same size, so I guess it's true.

>>47502385
You would have been dissapointed anyways.

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>>47506780
drawing something for a friendo

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My n'wahs, I'm recreating Mournhold in Minecraft

It's gonna be based on Tribunal's Mournhold, but with some changes. What would you like to see changed? I'm already planning to add a lot more market stalls to the Grand Bazaar.

>>47507975
post more

>>47507819
don't post more

>>47507975
How's Cyrodiil? PGE1 or wizard?

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>>47508074
it ain't easy to get the shapes of the houses right

>>47508177
We made the heartland a jungle.

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>>47508205
Good. Now where can I play it?

>>47508392
it's not playable, you can only check builds :/

tamrielcraft.tk

use /warp to get to places

>>47507975
so, like

Nirn is made from chunks of different gods, right? And the physical form of gods is what we understand as planets, yeah? Would it be too much a stretch to say that the visible difference in biomes across the continents might be because those segments are made out of different physical chunks of different gods? It might make sense for nirn to physically look like the patchwork thing it is.

>>47507819
Do post more.

>>47509092
That is an interesting point. Maybe Talos never achieved CHIM - when he mantled Shezzar, he simply changed the physical form of the god that made up Cyrodiil.

Skyrim would probably be Kynareth, but I have no way at guessing the others.

>>47506780
Probably jacking off, eating ice-cream, playing Skyrim, working, or on a date.

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>>47509176
One of these things is not like the others

>>47509155
it's an idea I've been mulling over ever since I went through the wheels of lul and heard that titanium is referred to as the blood of stendarr. It made me think if the reason certain regions are more concentrated in certain minerals is because those are where chunks of specific gods wound up during the creation of nirn. Also makes me wonder if the remaining physical bodies of the gods are just planet-wide mono-biomes.

>>47509092
I believe it's more like the Universe (Mundus) is formed of celestial bodies acting as anchors for the Divines. Nirn itself acting as the anchor of Lorkhan.

Now why Trinimac does not seem to have any object tying him to Mundus, even though he was part of it's creation... or how exactly an Aedra becomes a Daedra, that is another question.

>>47509387
>Nirn itself acting as the anchor of Lorkhan

Hey Mankar, how you doing?

And Trinimac was never an Aedra, he was an et'ada. There's an important difference there - an et'ada is basically a spirit that didn't go Aedra or Daedra. Trinimac eventually got forced into being a daedra when he turned into Malacath.

>>47502221
>skywind
I've HEARD that they've been told to "make it their own" and do what they want, so things that weren't in vanilla are going to be in skywind, which turns me off of skywind so much

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>>47509487
Well Kriin aren't in vanilla but anyone who used piratelord's creatures know about them.
I think it would be cute to have a higher quality model and texture for it.

>>47497692


>Divines
Dibella, Mara, Julianos, Akatosh, Arkay
>Daedra
Mephala, Sanguine, Dagon, Namira, Nocturnal
>Races
Dunmer, Dwemer, Argonian, Nord, Imperial
>Provinces
Morrowind, Cyrodiil, High Rock, Summerset, Skyrim
>Towns
Cheydinhal, Balmora, Sadrith Mora, Imperial City, Markarth

>>47509487
I don't know, I don't think Skywind is going to do well. You're basically taking a game and remaking it in an engine that was never designed for it, and was actually designed for a smaller game world without even half of the textures that are likely going to be used. I think it's beyond the abilities of even a dedicated team of modders to remake an entire game in that fashion.

Even then, what if by the time they're done TES6 has come out and made their efforts more or less obsolete, since the main reason people wanted Skywind was for better graphics? And what if Bethesda slaps a big ol' cease and desist on them? If I were in charge, I wouldn't like a bunch of people remaking one of my games. That's definitely not just a mod.

>>47509240
If you got a job, would that stop you from jacking off?

>>47509426
Is that so? Huh, I hadn't seen anything referring to et'Ada that hadn't fallen under either the Aedra or Daedra classification. That whole line of him being one of the most popular Gods of the early Aldmer made me sure he had been an Aedra.

Well, when you think about it... Mankar had a lot of interesting thoughts as to the cosmological classification of Nirn and the interplay between Lorkhan and the Aedra.

Siding with Satan to achieve... apocalypse, is where he kind of lost reason.

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>>47509646
Not necessarily, but if you're dating, you wouldn't be jacking off.
That would make dating redundant.

>>47509709
Both Meridia and Trinimac were et'Ada (though technically Meridia was a Magna-Ge). All the spirits started out as et'Ada, it's just most of them went Aedra or Daedra (or mortal) around the beginning of history.

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>>47509745
Oh my sweet summer child.

Your gf probably won't be into every fetish you are, and won't be in the mood every time you want to get off. Dating is important for emotional connections and hopefully finding a life partner, not just a place to stick your penis in. You can find much cheaper alternatives with some shameful shopping online.

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>>47509803
He's dating, not married.
If you're dating the same woman over and over, that's not dating, that's going outside.

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>>47509821
Are you saying you can't have a gf for a fair length of time? He just said that he was on a date, we don't know anything more than that. It could be a girl he hasn't even met, or the girl he's been dating for six years. There's nothing that keeps him from going on a date.

>>47509868
I'm saying if you are for a long time and you're jerking off, you've fucked up.

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>>47509905
Like I said, fetishes and mood.

>>47509487
Yes, I've visited their forums a couple times and they're like "so I'm making a model of Dagoth Ur with mask and without it, because a two stages fight is better", and the rest agreed.

>>47509803
>Your gf probably won't be into every fetish you are
that must suck...

>>47510054
Having him without a mask could be nice as a resource, but the fight is already in stages?

>>47509745
lolwut? People who are married jack off all the time, and so do people who date. Sometime we do it together.

Besides, I know my body better than she does, so it's a different experience.

Even then, If you could choose between Filet Mignon or a hotdog everyday, I'd normally choose the steak, but some days I just want a a nice, greasy hotdog. You catch my drift?

>>47510127
>People who are married jack off all the time
Yes
>and so do people who date
You're a failure as a living man

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>>47510127
>but some days I just want a a nice, greasy hotdog

>>47509905
>people in healthy sexually active relationships don't masturbate
Welcome to Earth, what planet are you from?

>>47510141
How? We have sex, and sometimes I jack off. Majority of the time, it's because I just want to jack off. It's a different experience, and sometimes I'm more in the mood for it.

>>47510173
They're different things, and I like a lot of the aspects involved in masturbation. I like exploring my own body and using my imagination.

To go back to the food analogy, while I love steak, and I keep it to where it doesn't grow dull, sometimes I want the flavor of pork.
>>47510180
A planet where virgins think they know how sexual relationships work, evidently. I like how he's trying to correct us, though.

/tgesg/- The ethics of masturbation.

>>47510244
>>47510184
>>47510180
>>47510173
>>47510141
>>47510127
>>47510083
>>47509985
>>47509905
>>47509821
>>47509803
>>47509745
>>47509646
pls

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>>47510289
>Half of those are me
based

>>47510279
Sometimes you have to question what you should do with your Muatra. In TES, it can be a very serious problem when gods decide to have kids.

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I like where this thread is going.

>>47510323
Do you think they planned for the lusty argonian maid to become so iconic

>>47510316
If only a Hephaestus-like character just showed Morihaus or Vivec how to quell their appetite, none of this shit would've happened.

>>47510361
Probably wanted it to be one of the main jokes of Morrowind, since you have to run into him.

As for Oblivion and Skyrim, they probably just wanted to keep it as a bawdy joke, and it grew because "lol pr0n!" is a common reaction among their new target demographic.

>>47510410
Morihaus had kids?

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>>47510446
...what else would be the reaction to it

>>47510494
what's happening in that pic?

>>47510494
Among some people, serious arousal or distaste, depending on the person. Personally, I think it's silly, even if not my favorite book.
>>47510492
Minotaurs.

>>47510550
he's wearing Therana's skirt, and she attacks you when you wear it. You're SUPPOSED to put it on the khajiit.

>>47510550
Someone tried to kill her with a skirt, but she's too clever for those kinds of schemes
>>47510571
>serious arousal or distaste
I highly doubt that, unless they're puritans or literal middleschoolers. The text isn't even "porn vid" quality text, it's, as you said, silly and obvious about it.

>>47510492
Yeah, but they ended up monsters, even though Pelinel tried to warn him, he kept plowing Alessia.

>>47510550
In the House Telvanni questline, there's a quest to deliver a new skirt to a crazy Telvanni magister. Play it and find out.

>>47510494
Every time I see that picture, I imagine the female Dunmer voice yelling "You little shit."

>>47510616
>>47510606
>>47510584
Thanks, will play it.

Would you try Moonsugar or Skooma?

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>>47511162
No, I'd save it for the kitties. I've never made much use of it even in the games, and the adverse affects and addiction would be much worse if I actually tried it.

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>>47511162
>Moonsugar
Sure, sounds fun
>Skooma
No

>>47511368
Isn't (s)he just tasting the air?
My cats do that, but they don't really lick anything, before tasting the air or any other time.

>>47511374
wat

>>47511502
It's a reflex animals get when smelling the urine or feces or pheromones of an animal they may mate with.

>>47511502
flehmen response

>>47512338
>>47512129
>>47511502
It's a stupid beast, it dos that kind of stuff...

>>47512534
It's no more stupid than humans yawning. In fact, it serves a more useful role to the animal.

>>47512765
>he thinks khajiit are people
>>>/out/lander

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>>47506790
>I mean Cyrodill itself is about its size in Oblivion

>>47513010
I had to click it

>>47513051
Is that a screenshot or what's the point you're trying to prove here

>>47513071
It's an ESO screenshot, so I don't know what it's trying to prove.

>>47513227
From what it looks like, it does look larger and more intimidating, but also looks like it has less stuff in it, less houses less stores etc.
But I don't play eso so I don't know

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>>47511374
>mfw two moons to write my name on

>>47509821
That map annoys me so much, because it is really pretty but at the same time geographically wrong in so many ways

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>>47511162
Yes.

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Do you think Bethesda actively understands that they won't be able to recreate something like Morrowind, and intentionally keeps their later games a little subpar so that way people continually return to the masterpiece?

>>47516369
Being this delusional sounds real comfy.

>>47513051
not at all. the distance between Leyyaawiin and Fisherman's Point in Oblivion is described as "a six hour walk" and in-game it's about fifteen minutes, meaning the game scale is about 1:24

>>47516369
No, I don't. Most of the "tesfans" I know haven't played Morrowind, and probably never will. They probably don't even know what a "Nerevar" is, just something the dark elves say. Skyrim is what people want, so Skyrim is what we're going to get. Maybe someone will suck Kirkles' muatra long enough to get something coherent, but it'll probably just be another small inconsequential tidbit like Heimskr.

>>47511502
Its getting its first taste of marmite.
Big Cat Rescue on youtube.

>>47509565
you got good taste mate

>Divines
Dibella, Zenithar, Julianos, Arkay, Mara
>Daedra
Nocturnal, Sanguine, Hircine, Sheo, Hermeus-Mora
>Races
Bosmer, Dunmer, Maormer, Argonians, Imperials
>Provinces
Valenwood, Summerset, Black Marsh, Morrowind, Elseweyr
>Towns
Ald'Ruhn, Dune, Eldenroot, Riften, Imperial City

>>47516369
There have been numerous undisputable masterpieces in role-play gaming, such as the strikingly realistic classic Fallout or its medieval counterpart Final Fantasy. Morrowind will not join their ranks; its surface is too generic, its presentation too provocative and its messages too obscure. Its take on the abysmal is an illumination in one person’s despair, but a paroxysm of another’s perversion. It will remain underground – treasured by the most avant-garde among intellectuals for its edifying if horrifying insight into the fundaments of human morality. Philistines and self-proclaimed critics alike will shun Morrowind, but you can’t fault them for that. It takes wisdom to appreciate its subtleties, and courage to side with the unpopular opinion. Sed domi maneas paresque nobis novem continuas fututiones.

Superficially, Morrowind appears to be a game which caters to the most proletarian among men; aloof critics dismiss it as such often without a second thought. As complacent as these self-proclaimed "lore masters" are, they fail to realize that Morrowind is a cult classic, a chef d'oeuvrea buried under false preconceptions and unfounded criticism. This gem is hidden because it does not shine; it is buried because its tone is that of abyssal black. Morrowind pries into to the darkest corners of our subconscious, the most visceral of our cognition, the most carnal of our urges, and the most primal of our instincts.

As brilliantly put by Cattalus, "Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo"; to describe the artistic qualia of Morrowind would be to describe music to the deaf, color to the blind or beauty to the philistine. The painting speaks for itself, and it is up to the player to fully absorb its depth. Its sublimity will ever be debated yet always remain objectively irrefutable; the fundamental insight it provides into human and perhaps animalistic nature may shape the basis of video gaming for centuries to come.

>>47517065
this is gibberish

>>47517065
I've been waiting for this.

>>47516981
>Dune
Why?
Senchal, Rimmen and Torval are all better.

>>47517292
idk they dont have the same sandy, isolated desert Sultan vibe to it like Dune does

>>47501560
Can someone read this? It seems gibberish, but I might just be too tired to read Daedric tonight.

>>47517494
It doesn't say anything, a bunch of the characters are actually just plain wrong.

>>47501712
Speaking of which, could the Ghostgate be the Indoril architecture mentioned last thread? It's rather unusual, at the very least.

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>>47517065

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>>47517494
what this >>47517564 anon said, a lot of the characters don't actually mean anything

>>47517594
The Ghost Gate is rather clearly Velothi in design.

>>47503149
There are none in Dragonborn.

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>>47517786
There weren't any in Bloodmoon either.

Can a sufficiently powerful conjuration mage summon a daedra indefinitely?

I know Skyrim had that unbound dremora quest and Morrowind had that dremora in the pilgrim quest.

Also, what are people's thoughts on Morrowind overhaul? I've played the game vanilla before and was wondering if it would be worth it to download for a second playthrough.

>>47519186
> Can a sufficiently powerful conjuration mage summon a daedra indefinitely?
Dunno. But you can certainly summon them for a long time.

>>47519186
Baladas has a permanent Daedroth is his Summoning Hall. Gothren has 2 permanent Dremora guards.

>>47519186
The graphical improvement one? It's ok, takes the pain out downloading the mods individually but makes some questionable choices on which ones it includes. The trees and flora are especially out of place. Personally I just pick the mods individually and cut it down to something manageable for possible troubleshooting.

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>>47517494
It was made by a Russian guy, which might explain the oddities. In any case, I nicked the pictures from here, if anyone's interested: http://melchiordahrk.tumblr.com/post/119377737383/sixth-house-propaganda-posters-w-captions-fyi

>>47517494
It's in Russian with Daedric letters changed to resemble Cyrillic. This one reads "Sow the Blight! Sow the Corprus! Let it please the guests!", and in Russian it also rhymes.

>>47520140
That's what I suspected.

>>47520140
Or alternatively "Sow the Corprus, sow the Blight! Let it bring your guests delight!"

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>>47520095
"Dunmer! Don't bow to the False Gods: the Three sold your Homeland to enemies"

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>>47520266
"Littering is the worst, sweep the n'wahs out of Vvardenfell"

>>47520330
"One Flesh, One Spirit, One God. House Dagoth"

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>>47520344
forgot the image

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>>47520353
"White, brown, fur or scales - in lava there's no difference" - it doesn't rhyme as it is, but does if you change the second line to "in lava there's absolutely no fucking difference". Jokes like this are common in Russia.

>>47520384
"White or brown, fur or scale - in the lava you're the same"?

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>>47520384
"Dunmer girl, don't warm up n'wah on your chest - join the Dreamers instead"
>>47520412
Nice.

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>>47520421
"NO to the cold weather and knee pains, YES to the central heating system"

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>>47520447
"Hey you filthy plunderer, keep your paws off the Ebony"

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>>47520468
"Stealing spoons again? And they call you "Lord Nerevar"...", expressing disappointment.

>>47520501
The last one, "Here's your ash statue, %PCName"

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>>47520510
fuck.

>>47520205
>>47520266
>>47520330
>>47520344
>>47520384
>>47520421
>>47520447
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>>47520501
>>47520510

Thanks for all these, renamed my pics.

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Is Tamriel Rebuilt destined to fail?

It seems too ambitious for its own good and I don't think there's enough dev notes and other canon sources to fill out that giant landmass.

That being said, I still want to try it. Anyone have any experience with it?

>>47520384
Can't Russians make entire sentences out of swears?

>>47520650
> Can't Russians make entire sentences out of swears?
Yes, we can. Such sentences do not convey that much meaning and are either very contextual or very emotional.

>>47520591
I think they'll be fine. They made some pretty retarded decisions though.
>>47520650
Yes, but most of the time swears are just interjections, and make up 50% of the sentence tops in the worst cases.

>>47520650
Grammatically correct, yes. Not really that meaningful since there's only five roots.

>>47520718
Not true, Russian swears have very flexible contextual meanings, not to mention that prefixes and postfixes are omnipresent and can convey meaning too.

Since we've got some actual Russians here, I might as well ask: do you wish there was something more obviously Russian in TES?

I know TES has done a fairly good job about making it so that each race isn't one clear-cut culture, but do you ever want the awesome points of Russian history to be more directly represented?

>>47520779
Not really, when westerners try to make something "Russian" it ends up being cheesy as fuck most of the time.

That said, Province:Cyrodiil guys are using some slavic motifs in Colovia and I'm okay with it.

>>47520779
> Since we've got some actual Russians here, I might as well ask: do you wish there was something more obviously Russian in TES?
I dunno. It will probably end up being cheesy. 40k and WHFB tried to do such things and they ended up with what we call "paзвecиcтaя клюквa". They could make some references to slavic folklore though.

>>47520567
Dagoth Ur

>>47520591
Even if they disbanded today it wouldn't have failed, the finished part is already amazing.

>>47520862
> "paзвecиcтaя клюквa"
???? cranberry?

>>47520899
It's a local idiom meaning "a cheesy and formulaic presentation of Russian culture", think winter-vodka-bears etc.

>>47520899
BIG cranberry or something along those lines. This expression is generally used when describing ways in which Russia is portrayed in western media. Red Alert is a good example.

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How lore friendly is ESO's pets?

I only ask because some of them are downright kawaii.

>>47520933
>>47520916
Thanks, have this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf5puZhkqKA

>>47520953
Is it a baby Guar? Tiny breed?

It sort of resembles a Guar, but Morrowind made it had to see.

>>47520953
There are senche cubs, so almost nothing, mounts are even worse, though.

>>47520779
I personally thought that Ulfric and Stormcloaks were based on Lenin/Stalin and Communists, but with less marxism and more nationalism and fucking religion of all things mixed in.
>Attempts to take power from inexperienced power figure by force
>Has ambigious connections to foreign agents (Lenin and Germany, Ulfric and Thalmor)
>Major fuckups lead to a full-scale civil war which they were on a brink of losing (Stalin in Moscow, Ulfric in Helgen)
>Persecution of non-nords == persecution of jews and questionable national politics

Pretty sure that obvious and genuine Russian stuff would ruin it for me. TES cultures at the point of Skyrim are based on a set of cultures that existed in a certain timeframe, and slavs didn't have a lot of interesting stuff back then.

>>47520953
They are boring as fuck.

>>47520993
there's a bull netch and a dwemer spider (this one not from the jew shop)

>>47521011
These are okay, but they are nothing new. Bantam Guars and Scuttlers on the other hand just seem like babyfied guar rehashes. They could at least make something interesting and unique like Kriins or giant Axolotls (everybody loves Axolotls).

>>47520953
Small animals are always downright kawaii anon!

>>47520985
You're reading too much into it, comrade.

>>47521047
Kriins? is that a monster of some sort?

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>>47521071
A small elephant-like reptile(?) creature from a mod.

>>47521084
it's from a mod...

>>47521131
Still more interesting than anything ESO came up with.

>>47521143
it is

>>47520985
Skyrim isn't canon

>>47521694
Sadly it is.

>>47521694
It says it is here: https://twitter.com/tesonline/status/372017971423498240

>>47521694
Why do you hate Skyrim?

>>47519186
MGSO is outdated and for people who don't care, pick your own mods using the various guides.

>>47519186
It's great if you want the basic patches and visual improvements and don't want to learn howto mod the game.
You should try some other mods, though, as MGSO is just a visuals pack.

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>>47521694
You could make a case for ESO but I don't see how Skyrim can't be canon.

>>47520993
If it was in Morrowind or even Skyrim you'd be raving about how great they are.
ESO haters are the worst.

>>47522257
Stop projecting.

>>47522306
That's not projecting.

>>47501614
I wonder what boards does Vivec visit on sporechan.

>>47522323
It is.

>>47522334
It's not.
There are no unpleasent impulses being denied or being attributed to someone else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

>>47522385
You can't deal with ESO not being accepted and attribute it to people doing it because it's ESO and not because it's shit.
Looks pretty straightforward to me.

>>47522422
But I don't care about eso, I don't even own it.
You're making assumptions to validate your argument.
The idea that cute pets are boring as fuck makes zero logical sense, so I tried to figure out what else could be surrounding the issue, and the only other information was it being from teso.
If I'm wrong that you're hating because it's from teso than my mistake.
But that makes you functionally retarded and I hope that's not true.

>>47522459
Same as you.

They are not boring just because they are "cute". Morrowind pets are just guars with a couple of neotenous features slapped on and all others are genericfest. Psijic pigs, fucking really?

Not to mention they add absolutely nothing to the gameplay and are functionally moving flowerpots.

>>47522498
>genericfest
>ywn be this wrong

>>47516567

If I ever taste marmite again I'd need a rescue, too.

>>47522498
You're right.

>>47522326
He writefags for /d/.

>>47523081
> He writefags for /d/.
Why? He can just show pictures of what happened during the Pomegranate Banquet or pictures of his intercourse with Molag Bal.

>>47522498
>Not to mention they add absolutely nothing to the gameplay
A lot of MMOs do this though, and having them be functional would turn into realms of pay to win, they're just supposed to follow you and make noises. I like to think of ESO as an MMO first, rather than an actual TES game, like TES: Legends is a cardgame first. That said, some of the pets are retarded, but bantam guar a qt.
They also drop poultry when killed.

>>47523151
>TES: Legends
Has anyone gotten into the beta for that? I'm not hype about it at all, but it would still be nice to know a bit more about it.

Are there any female Sixth House members?

>>47523358
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Dreamer_Prophet
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Zula

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>>47520953
>How lore freindly are house pets?

Um.

OK, bandits keep dogs as guards. Some Dunmer treat their pack guar as family members. Khaijiit refer to their house cats as "cousins". They sell tame rats and scribs in Mournhold.

Keeping tame animals around is a part of human culture. ESO shits on the rest of the games' lore in a bunch of ways, but there's obviously a precedent for pets in the previous games.

>>47520970
>filename.

"bantam" means bred to be small, so yeah.

>>47523495
>They sell tame rats and scribs in Mournhold.
I always forget about that.

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>>47521694

>>47523527
>conberrypicking.jpg

>>47523545
What's worse is skyrim is modded to look taht way.
I can understand baiting by using vanilla skyrim vs modded morrowind, but this is just annoying.
I know it's meant to be joking, but still

>>47523358
Heaps of dreamers are female

How does corprusmeat taste?

>>47523633
Salty coins.

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>>47523633
Probably like biting a massive rotting boil and letting it pop in your mouth.

>>47523566
It's not even modded as a joke.

It's a way for people with literal toasters to actually play skyrim with little problem. We are talking people who's computers would chug with morrowind back in the day because apparently autistic people hate change so much they don't buy even cheap computers.

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>>47523644
>>47523655
Looks tasty, all wrapped like a burrito

>>47523633
Like real rotten meat, kinda sweet smell and generally slimy with a terrible farty taste.

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>>47523662
>It's a way for people with literal toasters to actually play skyrim with little problem.
It's not.
I've tried.
They're the same performance as the lowest quality settings, yet look worse by design.

>>47523685
Dang you false advertising.

Well shit so its literally made as a joke then?

>>47523699
Yeah, sorry.

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>>47523678
>>47523655
That would be Corprus weepings, Corprusmeat is a delicacy provided by Lord Dagoth, the Savior of Dunmer people.

>>47523729
"Delicacies" are usually not very amazing tasting at all, they are usually for social status because its either hard to get or quaint.

Like how eating qwama eggs is literally eating a sourer lemon but in the empire its considered "good eatings."

>>47523762
>"Delicacies" are usually not very amazing tasting at all
Look at this fucking pleb right here.

This was a great weekend and I enjoyed it a lot (I still am, actually), so I wanted to share something funny I found.
>>>/diy/999183

>>47523729
don't you want to bury your face in that?

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>>47523685

Sometimes its kinda pretty. Gives sort of a "Mario World" feel to things.

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>>47523875

(2/3)

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>>47523888

>>47523902
>>47523888
>>47523875
>The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. WiiU Edition

>>47523762
Kwame eggs sound delicious!

>>47523762
Where'd you get the source on kwama eggs tasting sour?

They're not exactly rare or expensive, and a staple food for dunmer. I wouldn't consider it a delicacy.

>>47523527

The worst part is, you could caption that pic "Modded MW vs modded Skyrim", and not be lying.

>>47523762
The main reasons Kwama Eggs are popular are their nutritional value and storage life.

>>47524023
In one of the books talking about qwama farming.

Theyare said to be basically a sour jelly inside and to use any aditives is for filthy N'was.

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See you guys this friday.

>>47524388
Bye!

>>47524371
yummy

>>47524973
Well some people like to eat literal shit I guess.

Ashlanders, ashlanders like to eat shit.

>>47525128
Let's not make this official.

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The ending of the thread is ALMSIVI.

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>>47526471
All is silence. The road is straight, without turning, in darkness. Now let there be an end to all things.