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>>47365288
ORKS IZ FIRST!

ORKS IZ BEST!

>>47365369
Ork iz tiny grotlet

I am honestly curious, did anyone read and enjoy the battle report of my solo game in the other thread? It was a lot more fun to put together than I expected

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>>47365385
SHUT YA GOB YA SNOT.

>>47365397
Yeah, I sometimes enjoy battle reports, and it was better than the usual shitposting.

>>47365288
Kroot is not a codex army.

Why is it up there?

JK

>>47365397
Image quality was a bit poor, but the play by play was fun.

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>>47365452
Don't start that again. Not even as a joke.

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>>47365453
Thanks. I was just taking the pictures with my phone, if I was going to do it regularly I'd want a better camera, or at least a tripod.

>>47365463
Now that you mention it.

The Kroot is in chicken color. Please recolor.

KDK gets the Blood Tithe. TDK could just get a ton of powers. What would SDK and NDK get as their gimmicks?

>>47365397
I liked it

I like the Kroot, deals with the chicken issue.

Previous thread died before my question was answered, what is the best way to get multiple fortifications?

>>47365473
>NDK
What would Nuffle Daemon Kin get? I dunno, blitz moves?

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>>47365473
never gonna happen, but if it did slaanesh gets 4+ rending or the old school rending on rolls to hit

What's a good site to host a painting/battle report blog? Are picture and text reports preferable, or should I try to make video reports?

>>47365473
Nurgle:
>Gift of apathy special rule:
Each turn before your movement phase you gain a token of apathy.

At any point in the game, you may expend a token declare a unit to receive Nurgle's gift of apathy. This may be your own unit or an enemy unit.

For the rest of the game, the unit gains Fearless, Feel No Pain, and Slow And Purposeful. They may also not take Look Out Sir! tests, and if they may not benefit from Hatred, Rage, or Preferred Enemy.

Command Squad
3 flamer 1 hflamer, krak grenades, carapace, Chimera W/dozer blade and relic plating,
3 meltavets in chimeras with dozer blades
1 demovet Squad with shotguns and 3 Meltas

Valkyrie, MRP

Vulture, Punisher Cannons and armoured cockpit

Wyvern Battery, 2 Wyverns

Stormsword, Lascannon+ HB Sponsons
have 15 points to throw around somewhere

Going to go to my LGS for a game, should I livepost updates for how the game goes? Would anyone be interested

>>47365648
Nice, nice.

>>47365397
I commented in the other thread. Good job anon. Better than the shit posting that been going on.

>>47365681
camo net for commands chimera

>>47365566
picture/text. video reports are a masive cancer upon the earth certain that I read faster than you talk, so basically you're just wasting my time with videos of stuff that remains static.

Im going to start painting my first miniatures today, cadian shock troops. Should i do some goofy color scheme or just the regular khaki/green one?

I wanna do a goofy one to be honest.

>>47365809
Not to mention that you almost always have the option of reading, where watching a video requires a lot more attention, a headset of some kind, or just a location where you wouldn't be bothering people.

>>47365686
what armies?

Talk me out of this :
1850 pts
HQ
Inquisitor Corteaz 100pts
Ordo Xenos Inquisitor 127pts
Psyker ML 1
Force Sword
Plasmna Pistol
Liber Heresius
Rad Grenades
Psychotroke Grenades
3 x Servo Skulls
Power Armour
Ordo Xenos Inquisitor 28pts
1x SevoSkulls


Elites
6x Inq. Warband (6 x 65pts each = 390pts)

11 Acolytes w/Bolter (5pts each)
1 Psyker (10pts)

2x Inq Warband (2 x 235pts each = 470pts)
5 Jokaero (35pts each)
Chimera w/ Dozer Blade (60pts)

1x Inq Warband (265pts)
3 Crusader (15pts each)
4 Death Cult Assassin (15pts each)
1 Ministorum Pries (25 pts)
Valkyrie w/ Multilaser, RocketPods (135 pts)

Lords of War
1x Knight Crusader (470pts)
Avenger Gatling Cannon
Rapid fire Battle Cannon
Storm Spear Rocket Pod
Heavy Flamer
Heavy Stubber

The first 2 inquisitors would ride in the valk with the combat warband.

Would replacing the knight with an AM artillery detachment be a better use of the pts for some big guns ?

>>47365901
I play sisters, will see who's there when I get there

How many flyers is considered reasonable in a 1500 point army? If I pull out three Vultures and two Valkyries, will people call me a WAAC fag?

>>47365955
You realize that with 5 Jokaero you break the buff roll, right?

>>47366017
That's a whole FUCKTON of air, at least using my local meta group as reference.
In my group 0-1 flyers are the norm. 2 is considered to be on the less fun side of things, and any more than that people won't want to play you.

>>47366017
Yeah, possibly. It's kind of the same problem as knight armies, either people can hard counter you or they can't, and the game kind of sucks if the enemy has a load of basically untouchable units. Multiple vultures may not help your case either.

I'd say for planned games that's fine, but dropping that list in a pick up game is probably a dick move.

>>47366116
What if it was 2 of each and my entire army was only 9 units, counting dedicated transports separately?

>>47366129
Knight armies are garbage, though. Even Orks have the advantage in an objectives game.

>>47366153
>in an objectives game.
They may be able to win, but just standing on objectives taking cover save rolls isn't exactly fun.

>>47366041
yeh, just went with 5 since they can all fire out of the chimera

>>47365288

Someone just needs to edit the Tau face back.

Any good 1500 points IG guard list that is not tank or chimera spam?

>>47366319
So, blob squads? I'd look into Renegades and Heretics for that.

>>47366379
is just that my average opponent use drop pods squads with meltas, so an average tank is destroyed in two turns

also i just hate tank only armies.

>>47366395
Take Coteaz. Stick him in a Quad Gun for maximum fun.

>>47366283
Intentionally bad is still bad.

>>47366395
Point stands

>>47366434
So there is litterally no other viable choice than just having only tanks?

Question on coherency:
If my guys are arranged in a line, and the line is severed thanks to the death of one or more dudes, what happens to the models that aren't coherent anymore? Do they automatically move into a coherent spot?

>>47366438
Noone suggested only tanks.
Tanks$Artillery with meaty bubblewrap.

Trying to blob it up is at best an admirable investment into GW stock or a gimmick hoping 6 turns won't be enough to kill all the obsec bodies planted on objectives.

>>47366463
You must spend your movement phase doing it yourself

>>47366501
OK - thankyou

>>47366495
sso yeah, is there any list with that? im surely not going with only infantry either since they cant do shit.

>>47366438
I suggested R&H because it has rules more conducive to masses of footslogging infantry. Death Korps of Krieg is pretty good for that, too.

Also, Inquisitor Coteaz in a Quad Gun is 200 points that will fuck up any Deep Strike shenanigans. It's a solid counter to any alpha strike list.

>>47366515
>any Deep Strike shenanigans
within twelve inches. Someone tries that one on GK and it bounces off unless you're also sitting with plasma servitors and acolytes, in which case its even pricier. Finally, you can just pod your combimelta sternguard outside of the 12" bubble but within melta range and do it that way

>>47366515
Ok, im a complete idiot that does not understand anything

now you say footslogging infantry, but chimeras and tanks can only move 6" too but im probably missing some rules since i dont have any codex
also i google for RH but cant find anything

>>47366535
It's all a matter of positioning. Coteaz denies a 24" bubble, and you can use Lascannon turrets if you're afraid of Terminators.

>>47366539
Transports have smoke launchers and present a single target for templates rather than 50. They also soak up a surprising amount of damage that would otherwise murder your infantry with no saved allowed.

Renegades and Heretics is a Forgeworld faction. It's basically Chaos IG, but it's got a flavor all its own. It includes a formation specifically for infantry blobs that can bring back destroyed units on a roll of 2+.

>>47366624
so i should ditch stuff like the coinscripts in favour of vets on chimeras only? right now my list is
company command squad

>company command squad: 65
>infantry platoon 2 vanilla troopers+30 conscripts: 245
>two vets on chimera with melta and plasma and a commissar for each squad 220+200
>leeman russ battle tank with lascannon and heavy bolters on the side+leeman russ exterminator (thinking about adding plasmas on the side): 310
>one priest: 25

Have a 2v2 bike game tomorrow.

3000pts per side it is my Ravenwing with a friend's White Scars against flithy Xenos bikers (Ork and Eldar)

Pretty excited because it seems like it will be fun but I don't know if carrying the Orks will be enough to slow down the Eldar.

Our only guidelines are that 1000/1500 have to be put towards bikes, no LoW/Super Heavies and no D.

Does it sound like it will be a good game or should we split up teams a different way. We already threw the Ally Table and Rules out of the window.

Hey guys. Haven't played since 5th but want to get back in. I play Blood Angel's with Dark Angel's allies (since the original 2nd ed. Angels of Death Codex). With the advent of Formations and such, I put together a theoretical list for 1850 point games.
Any thoughts or advice would be welcome. I tried for a fluffy, but hard-hitting list. I don't *think* it's a WAAC list...

Angel's Fury Spearhead Strike Force - 1080 points
-3 Storm Ravens
(TLAC, Multimelta)
-3 10 man Tactical Squads each w/
(Heavy Flamer, Melta Gun)

Ravenwing Abductor Squadron - 490 points
-1 Dark Talon
-2 Nephalem Jet Fighters

Combined Arms Detachment - 280 points
HQ - Brother Corbulo
Troops - 5 man Scout Squad
(Teleport Homer, Storm Bolter, 2 SR, H.Bolter)
Troops - 5 man Scout Squad
(Teleport Homer, Storm Bolter, 2 SR, H.Bolter)

Summary:
5 Troop Slots w/ Objective Secured
40 Models
6 Flyers
5 Heavy Weapons
5 Special Weapons

Weaknesses:
- No AP 3/2
- Warlord weak in challenge
- No hard-hitting Assault Squads

Building a squad of vanguard vets; how should I kit them out?

>>47366903
>Teleport Homers
>No Teleporting units

Don't I need them for the deep striking flyers? To put them where I want them?

do orks nee any new models?

if so i think we need hyper grot unicycles
help me with a statline plz and special rules too

>>47366948
Neve rmind. I'm getting Locator Beacons and Teleport Homer's confused. Again. Derp.

>>47366903
>Ravenwing Abductor Squadron
>Using DftS

Sounds gross. To each their own I suppose. Did they change the cost of the RW fliers in that book because with the same units the Silence Squadron is 500pts.

It isn't WAAC at all, kind of looks.... not so good.
>- No AP 3/2

>>47366980
The flying formation is 490 points bare.
I DO get the rift cannon.
I've got 9 rending shots a turn from the Storm Ravens so that's something. Also Corbulo has rending on his attacks so there's that too.
I'll run it and see what happens.

Just about to buy some chimeras for my vets (they've been footslogging it with the platoon plebs all this time), how do chimeras play out? I my mind they're going to be pushing objectives whilst covered by my Punishers/Vanquishers.

>>47366956
>trying to force a meme
Stop.

>>47367022
Metal boxes are great, you will get mileage from them.

>>47367022
Take a psyker with technokineses for extra lulz.

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I HEAR VOICES IN MY HEAD THEY COUNCIL ME THEY UNDERSTAND

>>47367057
sticking my CCS, a vet squad with plasma and another with melta in them. The CCS is not my warlord so I'm not too fussed about sending him into the fray.

>>47367012
>I'll run it and see what happens.
That's all you can do, each meta is different.
I play pure ravenwing in my more competitive meta and my 1850 list brings ~20 Ap2 or better guns.

so what would be a good reason in fluff to ally with the tyranids?

do tournaments care about the color scheme of your marines?

>>47367116
There isn't any. That is why they don't have allies. They are mindless killing creatures that do as the Hive Mind says.

>>47367127
Never one that I have been too, though some (most) won't let you play with a grey army and may have a minimal colour standard.

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>>47365369
>i2
>bs2

>>47367116
Other Tyranids and Jeanstealers.

Maybe a mini-faction of all those feral Tyranid creatures (like the Catachan Devil or what-it's-called)

Anyone got games this weekend?

My friend recently started a Tau army so we are having a 750pt game this afternoon.

So far no Riptides so that is cool.

He will be bringing Crisis Suits, a Commander and a Broadside and a bunch of scattered drones. Then a single squad of (I think) Fire Warrior Breachers.

Not sure if I should take it easy on him or teach him that his army is still killable.

>>47367193
I was going to have a game but I'd have to face a Knight Crusader and Grav Centurions for a fifth time so I passed. What are you using against the Tau?

How viable would be a template spam AM army?
Grenade launchers, mortars, flamers, Basilisks, Wyverns, Manticores and maybe a Russ variant or two... you know, all the fun stuff.

>>47367217
>What are you using against the Tau?

Depends how nice I want to be.

CAD Necrons is probably the easiest for him to deal with.

Dark Eldar may be too fragile to bring anymore. They may just flop but probably hit harder then a bunch of Necron Warriors.

Space Wolves without TWC or a minimal unit of them OR RWSF could get up in his suits face really quick.

Lastly a small IG force, but I am unsure he could deal with a single Leman Russ at 750.

>>47367239
Viable enough to be a pain in casual but not so much it wouldn't get wrecked by anyone trying.

>>47367243
If he's totally new and hasn't played before I'd say the Guard might be a good army to introduce with but it really depends on what Russ variant it is.

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>>47367171
>tau
>bs3
>t3

which race is the MOST grimdark 40kg

>>47367275
Squats, because they died.

>>47367275
humans

>>47367267
>what Russ variant it is.
Pretty much any of them.
I could take two squads of Vets in Chimeras and maybe an artillery piece and any leman russ variant.
Not sure what HQ to bring, I havent really used my IG, just bought a decent lot from a player that was quitting but he magnetized a bunch of crap.

How do I take more than one fortification in an army? Is it possible with a single detachment?

>>47367325
The Exterminator is probably the nicest one to take while still being useful.

>>47367138
but do they care if you sub ultramarines for salamanders or something like that?

>>47367427
As long as you don't try to switch it between games you should be fine.
If half your army is blue and the other dark green they may say wtf but its a case by case basis.

>>47367374
You can take a network with your Fortification Slot. AFAIK, you'll need multiple CAD's if you want multiple fortifications that aren't in a network.

how to make orks better???

I play quite well but am always destroyed by
tau,grey knights,sphees mahrens

what do you people of tg think we should do

>>47367671
>what do you people of tg think we should do
Use the Ork Fandex
>B-but my group won't allow Homebrews
Then you are fucked.

>>47367275
All of them really. Besides tau and orks.

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Hey /tg/

How have you converted your HQs from BaC?
I have them on the desk with no idea what to do with them.

Autism compels me from assembling them standard.

>>47367275
Chaos when written competently, particularly during that early phase where every action the heretic is forced to do is pure agony on their soul but they have no other choice for whatever reason.

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Has anyone painted their army like this?

>>47367872
Like most of BaC it is pretty set in its monopose ways. Lop off limbs and cut angles then redo joints with greenstuff.

Ask /wip/ tbqhfam

>>47367920
Any ultramarine player with open masks?

Though I think a mega-man army would look like shit.

>>47365288
I want to hire somebody to paint my mini's. Is there anyone out there who will do this?

>>47367994
Yes it is called a painting service and can get expensive quick.

Type Miniature+Painting Service+ Your Country

If that doesn't work, specify 40k or warhammer

>go to /v/ to escape Carnac
>he's there as well

This is painful.

>>47368080
>Caring enough about a 4chan autist to "escape him"

You know you can walk away from the computer, right?

>>47367994
If you just want to have non-gray, somewhat decent looking minis for almost no work look into 'dipping'.

If you want stuff that's pretty and you have WAY too much money look for painting services like >>47368071
said.

>>47367872
Gave chaplain an axe head on the staff and a combi-plasma.

Captain's chainfist got cut off and an upside down volkite charger was mounted. Head replaced with one looking more to the front and combi-melta replaced with a GK terminator force sword, giving him a pose like he's vertically slicing with it.

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>>47367994
talk to your locals

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>annual inhouse tourney at club
>we're short on time and have lots of people who want to play
>it's decided we're going to play 1k

Fuck. It's difficult making a fun, decent list at 1k. How's this? It's thin on the anti-tank, and needs more bodies, but it's so hard to strike a balance between good and things I want to field at 1k.

How many points would doomguy cost if he were a unit in 40k?

>>47368152
>1000 point
>"Tournament"

God Bless that kiddie pool bullshit. You won't be able to make a well rounded list and hopefully some cunt doesn't go full WAAC with a tryhard army.

All you can really do is spam for the best.

Also wasting 1/4 of your points on HQs is probably wrong.

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>>47368171
>doomguy
Literally who?

Don't bring some /v/ shit in here, go make a thread and have people participate.

>>47368188
Scrapping skulltaker and one hound and bringing a second skull cannon is an alternative, but I love shitting all over every single duel with skulltaker.

We've banned Superheavies at least, but I don't think it'll be a very competitive tournament, 1k a bad.

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>>47365288
Any interesting novels about Perpetuals?

>>47368171
ws4 bs4 S4 t4 w3 i3 a3 ld9
relentless, fearless, feel no pain, eternal warrior, smash.
missile launcher
space marine shotgun
laspistol
chainsaw (s+1 ap- rending, two handed)

100 points

>>47368227
IMO the second skull cannon would do more work.
Good think you banned them but what about GCs?

Off the top of my head my cheesier 1000pt list with multiple HQs looks something like:

Interrogator Chaplin on bike with MoR - 160
Techmarine on bike with Servo Pack - 110
6 man Ravenwing Command Squad with apoth, banner and champ.
3 Grav Bikers
A double MultiMelta Landspeeder

Then the Ravenwing Support Squadron with a Darkshroud and three Double Heavy Bolter Landspeeders.

Basically the lone landspeeders and the regular bikers do their own thing but the Support Squadron follows around the Command Squad with a big ol' ball of 2+ jink and says kill this or lose.

The only way you would deal with that is if your heldrake had the baleflamer.

>>47368319
forgot, 4+ armour.

>>47368301
A better question is there any novels about the SoBs? I can only think of one.

>>47368333
>Interrogator Chaplin
Is that an old movie?

>>47368333
GCs are banned too. Second skull cannon would probably do more, only reason I'm not doing it immediately is because the majority of the club plays Space Marine variations, and many of them like to play meaty HQs. Skulltaker has an incredible track record of effortlessly taking out beefy HQs way above his points cost, but on the other hand I will need that skull cannon to deal with anything that isn't marines.

It's a spooky list, especially since our resident DA player loves his ravenwing and grav, he could very well field something similar. I need the hades autocannon though, since the heldrake is my only anti-air.

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So i had fun playing with my CultMech and skittles versus some marines today...

Did you have any fun games today anon ?

>>47368434
Cohort Mechanicus deployment vs. 2000pts of various Wraith analogues and Spiritseers. I have never seen any unit kill a Wraithknight faster than BS6 Kataphron Destroyers.

My necron friend is currently playing 2 doom scythes and is playing some really odd rules with them.

He shoots at the floor, rolls 3d6 and any model under a straight line from the target suffers a hit.

What the fuck is he doing? (He's saying it's from the new flyer book, but I can't see anything there)

>>47368380

Dam mobile, must have mispelled chaplain.

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>Get called a WAACfag for not allowing opponent to reroll a save he forgot 3 turns earlier

>>47368464
New book doesn't change the shooting rules or the weapons.

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What are some fun Admech lists you can think off, dosent have to be "the best" but should be fun to play with

>>47368493

Why wouldnt you let him reroll it?

>>47368493
Even in the most casual of games I always operate under the "phase rule," in that if a rule that should take place doesn't by the end of any particular phase, it shouldn't be redone or applied retrospectively, this does, however, include both positive and negative rules.

Does anyone else have the autism to give rules to situations like this or is it all just down to how you're feeling?

>>47368518

Because...

>Because it happened 3 turns prior.
>It killed the guy he wanted to reroll it for and put it back on the table

>>47368547
I actually have a 1 turn "whoops I forgot rule" - you forgot something, anything, I have no problem. We're hurman and we sometimes forget things. 3 turns? naaaaah

plus this guy was being a total sourpus, when I vaporised two Leman Russ' on turn 1 he began to sulk

>>47368382
What are GCs?

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>>47368516
There isn't a lot of Ad Mech units.

IA14 SHOULD give access to more units thou.

I personally like the Thanatar and Mymirdoms

>>47368514
it's something along the lines of "attack pattern" or wing leader or some shit.

It's caused me to loose the last few games because he's claiming str8 or higher.

>>47368596
Gargantuan Creatures

>>47368596
Gargantuan Creatures.

>>47368608
taking out a whole platoon, glancing a few lemans etc with just 2 shots. GG.

>>47368464
I don't think thats how it works. I know there is a FW Scythe but I don't know tis rules, perhaps that is its weapon.

>What the fuck is he doing?
Cheating, anon, he is cheating.

>>47368516
Honestly I've always loved the Cohort Mechanicus as perhaps the best formation in the entire game, not due to crunch, though. While yes it is an incredibly effective force the main reason why it's so great is it lets you pick up a bit of experience and playtime with virtually everything in the books.

Alternatively, if you're allowing FW stuff, Tech-Thralls, just loads and loads and loads and LOADS of Tech-Thralls.

>>47368608
Don't use the new shitty rules.
It says if one opponent is for and the other is against then its a roll off.
If that triggers him then you know not to play him until he grows up.

>>47365397

buy a play matt

>>47368628
>>47368464
The Forge World flyer has 4 (or 5) S10 AP1 Large Blast bombs, plus the usual Twin-Linked Tesla Destroyers. They are 12/12/12 iirc. Also the bombs cause Pinning + Blind.

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>>47368203
>that file name

>>47368233
the one on the left is retarded why would you opt for a flesh tone facemask?
everything else is great though

>>47368650
shitty rules or not I'm just confused as to were this idea of firing indirectly and then measuring from the counter comes from.

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>>47368726
nope everything else is not great on second look. just the one on the right, that ones sick

>>47368737
Yeah I don't know anything about firing a weapon without a target, sounds like heresy.

>>47367920
>>47368125
>>47368233
What program is this? Does it have Ad Mech + SoB?

Alright, here's my revised list, and I upped the points to 1,500 and made it bigger.

Battle-Forged IG CAD

-HQ
-Tank Commander, 30
+Leman Russ Vanquisher, 135
+Camo Netting, 15
+Hull Lascannon, 10
+Heavy Bolter Sponsons, 20
Total, 210

+2x Leman Russ Exterminator, 130 (260)
+Hull Lascannon, 10 (20)
+Multimelta Sponson, 20 (40)
-Total, 145 (290)
-Complete Total, 500

-HQ #2
-Tank Commander, 30
+Leman Russ Vanquisher, 135
+Camo Netting, 15
+Hull Lascannon, 10
+Heavy Bolter Sponsons, 20
-Total, 210

+2x Leman Russ Exterminator, 130 (260)
+Hull Lascannon, 10 (20)
+Multimelta Sponson, 20 (40)
-Total, 145 (290)
-Complete Total, 500

+Heavy Support
-Hydra Flak Tank, 65
+Camo Netting, 15
-Total, 80

-Troops
-6xVeteran Squad, 60 (360)
+Autocannon HWT, 10 (60)
Total, 70 (420)

++Complete Total, 1,500 points. ++

>>47368773
I think it may have SOB because I have seen similar pictures but I do not think they have Ad Mech.

Necrons and Imperial Guard I think they have too.

>>47368807
What's it called? If you can remember. I want to fiddle about. I want to do Ad Mech + SoB.

I'd also like a small BA and Red Scorp and Minotaur army.. But Ad Mech first.

SoB would just be for fiddling.

>>47368574
What army were you playing?

>>47368891
>What's it called?
Sorry just seen some pictures here and there before. Hopefully one of the anons actually posting them can help.

>>47367872
Chaplin reworked with hammer and sword for alpha legion character
Fit a helmet on the termie, use as standard captain with chainfist

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>>47367268
>tau
>BS3

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>>47368908

Crons

>>47368464
Sounds like he's using the old doom scyth rules. Either he's mixed uo his editions or he's cheating.

>>47368943
Okay anon, thanks for the help.

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>CCON finally got back to me for the 5/9 deal earlier this month.
>He took even more off for his shamfur dishpray

3 Glorious RW Fliers and 2 more Attack Bikes and a Landspeeder
>$76

Anyone else get in on this? Never got a big vehicle from him before like the fliers but his Speeders have all been good, but heavy.

>>47367116
The Kryptman Ultimatum / Lethal Gambit

"The task force has anticipated the arrival of the Tyranid fleet and decided to lead one enemy against the other - a dangerous underpinning indeed. Luring the Tyrants and Warrior Primes via subtle psychic-suggestion, the task force must in turn be wary of the predations of The Great Devourer.

Ally Rules: 2 units gets +1B and Preferred Enemy: Tyranids. On the last turn of the game, all units must pass a leadership test (roll individually) or make a shooting attack against their Tyranid allies.

Tyranids: Preferred enemy: Ally.
If the enemy is brought to 50% fighting effectiveness (calculate via victory points), Tyranid units will turn on their "allies". Roll a leadership test for each melee unit: for each failure, the unit must attack, (or if out of range, run) towards the nearest allied unit. Units armed with ranged weapons may elect to fire their weapon at the nearest ally or enemy unit.

Genestealer Cult: Astra Militarum

Heresy begins to stir amongst the troops. Whether they be planetary defense, a Governor's honour guard, or the grim sentinels of the penal legionnaires, few armies are safe from the clutches of The Great Devourer if a Genestealer incursion is initiated.

Dark rumours begin to circulate of treachery and betrayal at the core of the army. Troopers begin to exhibit vile mutations, officers engage in sinister cults, and rumors begin to circulate of shadowy creatures stalking the garrison...

Over time the task force is completely overrun, vile mutants appearing from the darkness to take up arms against those still loyal to the Imperium. Indoctrinated troopers turn away from the light of the Emperor, brainwashed by the horrifying mind control of the Genestealer's Kiss. Tyranid organisms begin to appear: Gargoyles swoop down over defaced Chimera transports, Lictor vanguard organisms protect bloodthirsty cultist-guardsmen, and a Commanding Magus rallies his troops towards The Great Devourer.

>>47368773
It has SoBs, IGs, and Orks. Used to have Eldar.

Question: someone at my table had gotten to talking about sanctioned psykers of the Imperium, and seemed convinced that the majority of them have watchers assigned specifically to them ready to blow their head off should they start showing signs of losing control. Not commissars mind you, but members of the astra telepathica assigned to the individual as a controller. Could be that I'm just gullible, but seeing as psykers are relatively rare I'm ready to believe that the organization meant to control them is ready to prepare a regular human jailer to each of their sanctions. Are there any books that confirm this? It sounds like it could be an interesting facet of lore of true.

>>47369017
Whats the new website (if he still uses one).
I want more but the original CCON site is long down by now.

>>47369094
Sorry champ, just send an email to his address if you actually have it and ask for a catalog.

>>47366283
I think its time to let that go.

>>47369017
Is this the same guy as Z, or a different guy?

>>47369256
CCON =/= Z

>>47369022

Additional Rules:

All HQ, Troop, and Elite choices benefit from their Ally's Synapse, subject to range.

Tyranid units can be included as part of the main AM battleforce. However, at least 2 troop choices and one HQ choice must come from the AM codex.

>>47369044
Correct. They normally have about 3-4 wardens.

Does anybody know what's up with Chaos right now? I had hoped that GW would put up a pre-order for something today since the CSM models were being removed but it didn't look like anything was added today.

>>47369159
Is it stil the one with 163 in it?

>>47369328
>Does anybody know what's up with Chaos right now?
You have to sacrifice something for that knowledge.

>>47369337
Yes.

>>47369039
Do you remember the programs name?

>>47369256
Z has blocked all new customers. If somebody gives you his address, he will ignore you.

CCON is somebody different.

There are several more people but I believe Z and CCON are the most 'reliable', though they are often poor quality. Not always, many get good, but they are variable. But for the price, who cares?

>>47369328
Rubric Marines new models for Warzone: Fenris Past 2.

Chaos Space Marine revamp after that (at least in 40k, AoS will be interspliced)

I had a talk with people at my game store about not using formation, and got what I expected. So now the only thing left to do is to adapt. Are there any good ways for IG to beat eldar/marine armies, as those two are the most common here? I was told something about rules that come from outside GW, but are suppose to be fully legal. If those have good IG rules it would be awesome, even more if I wouldn't have to buy any new models. Ally seem to be another way, only I don't realy want to buy another codex, plus I do not know which ally are best for my army.

>>47369317
Neat. Anything I could read up on about them? So far the closest thing I've managed to find are these order of the 4th guys from the rpg books.

>>47369413
>outside GW but fully legal
Unless you consider forge world putside GW thats a no senpai

>>47369377
>though they are often poor quality

Can't speak for Z but I have had many orders through CCON and the one and only time something had a sizable mistake he sent me a new one for the price of shipping.

Otherwise the only different is the weight but I started weighting down some of my regular models to compensate.

>>47369377
>>47369273
is there some way i could get CCON's contact info?

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>>47369465
>is there some way i could get CCON's contact info?
Go check that one subreddit that hosts idiots that actually spread it.
Most people on 4chan wont give it to you, especially out in the open on the board.

>>47369465

fuck off you gw shill

>>47369448
It could be forge world. So are the rules for IG good there?

>>47365648
That's pretty OP.

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>>47369377
Space marine painter. Bolter and Chainsword has it. I don't really use it anymore.

>>47369465
It can be found on the Internet. You just need to go looking.

There's also normally some recasters active on allieexpress.

>>47369465

>Upsetting the sleeping neckbeard lord of lurkmoaria

You dun goofed

>>47369465
>tfw the last time you gave out his info the tits weren't even timestamped and you derailed a thread because some femdom was looking for work

Fun times.

>>47369415

>Order of the 4th guys

Explain?

>>47368319
Preferred Enemy: Daemons
Hatred: Daemons

Can take a grav cannon for 20 points

>>47369550
They have some pretty gold units like the avenger strike fighter, it's basically the A-10 for the imperium, although it's technicallynot legal at the moment with death from the skies

>>47369609
Thanks.

>>47369685
Most people are newfags and history revisionists as well. They go

>b-b-but tits or gtfo was only for /b/!
>that's OLD 4chan!
>fuck off sexist!

>>47369465
If you can't find it yourself, you don't deserve the recasts.

Funny thing is, people will then moan GW brings out X and Y models, when they don't even support them for the models they want.

But that's an argument I don't want to fight, so let's say they're right anyway.

>>47369977
I have no problems with how anyone takes part in this hobby as long as they have fun and don't shit on others interests.

We have a guy at our shop who just makes terrain for us and paints the occasional model and last month some people were giving him shit for not playing but participating in discussion and I was like "Look, this man has been in the hobby for over ten years. He may not be the most current on everything but he isn't a novice."

As far as recasters go I think its fine as long as it isn't talked about in shop and thrown in a store owners face. Not everyone has the money or wants to pay GWs prices and that is fine.

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>DE got nerfed
For what purpose

>>47367872
Chaplain got a Bolt Pistol and a Psychic Hood (fashioned from a cowl from the old Imperial Bright Wizard kit) and his staff has a fiery orb thing from the same Wizard kit. Haven't done the Captain yet. He'll probably keep the Combi-melta, get a helmet, and get a "Relic Blade" Khopesh. Might get some bling on his hood to count-as a Psychic Hood as well.

>>47370039
Because they show too much skin and have no tan lines.

>>47370039
Its fine, 8th edition is going to fix everything and DEldar will be the fourth codex released in it.

HAHA JUST KIDDING, YOU ARE FUCKED XENOS SCUMM

>>47370039
If you're talking about the FAQ, they weren't nerfed. It was simply pointed out that their common method of play was technically cheating.

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>>47370039
to make suffering first you must know it. also the climate of 7th really doesn't suit a fast fragile army that relies on cover. i dread to think of how hard tau counter them. it's not like grey knights vs daemons since daemons can boost themselves a tier or tone it down on the fly due to powers and gifts

>>47370022
i wish i was close enough to a lgs to make a terrain piece every now and again. i've seen some impressive pieces made out of simple items. picture slightly related, it's a set piece on a movie

>buy all the Horus Heresy Forge World books
>Friends tell me those are outdated rules for Cult Mech
>Tells me I can't use them without the Cult Mech specific book
>Ask why
>he says the original rules are OP as fuck

Does the 'specific' book have everything? Does it cover the new units in Book 6?

>>47370131

Wow your friends are cunts and tryhards.

What is the best way for CSM to deal with tanks walkers?
Or rather what is the most point cost-effective way?

Am playing nurgle CSMs and my opponents now increase their amount of walkers and tanks

>>47370131
The day one Mechanicum was OP as a Titan is tall, and your friends are lying to you.

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Can someone clarify this FAQ ruling?

Does this mean models out of LoS can get hit if they're behind vehicles just because your opponent can see one model?

>>47370022
Unfortunately, I've met people with recasters and they do brag "lol I only paid X for this, you got jew'd".

I also used to play a competative arcade game. I used to order rare cards from Japan which worked on the English version. I went into a tournament, told I could only use 5 rare cards, but when I got there, they changed the rule and allowed any number. So I'm there with a limited deck and I come 4th. I lose because the kids I'm playing all had fakes. They download the 'code', you know, like those things you scan, and put real cards over the top to make it look like legit cards. But they had insane teams.

So I'm not a fan of recasters or people who cheat. I feel like it's cheating. But that's just me. The other guy is right thou, it does tickle me as well.

>Why more Tau stuff? Fucking GWews!
>I play X and they don't get support!
>What? I don't pay Jew prices, I buy from recasters!

Etc. If they enjoy it, good. It is a game. But I'm bitter, that's all, bad experiences.

Also, those guys giving him shit are dicks. I'd love a guy like that in my FLGS.

>>47370172
So... They were OP? Titans are pretty tall!

As for lying to me, what specifically about? Not being able to use the HH books or the need to have the corebook? The corebook is, admittedly, easy to hold simply because it's one book, but I want to know if it has everything I can use.

>>47370158
That's the way it goes unfortunately. The single book would be easier to hold, but I want to know if it has everything or isn't nerfed to hell and back.

I like lots of the units in Cult Mech and I want to slowly expand it.

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did anyone try samus or cor'bax? looks like a pile of walking refuse that went on a walk through a nuclear plant (in that amazing nurgle way i might add) but idk if i'm sold on him. t8 is pretty nice and he has some nifty fighting rules, but he's also a lord of war for 355 and you don't get access to his warlord trait in 40k.

>>47370161
melta on bikers/raptors, lascannon havocs or termicide with combi meltas. strike fast

>>47370161
Maulerfiends
Terminators,
Obliterators
Raptors with melta guns

>>47370186
It's only cheating if the original game was pay to win :P

>>47370178
That's what unit means, yes.

>>47370178
Clarify it with GW themselves. Post on their FB page.

>>47370259
Not really. Each card has a stat out of 100. They basically got all the best rated guys.

They were idiots though as if they knew what they were doing, they would have got the best team possible, but instead they were 10-14 year olds and didn't realise that there were better players than 95/100.

Had I brought my proper team, I would have won E-Z.

I'm just bitter. To make it worse they removed it from EU.

>>47370216
>So... They were OP? Titans are pretty tall!
Yep. Even now it's pretty easy to make a cheesy Mechaniucm list, but most people tend to not over do it. As for the lying bit do you have the current AdMech red book? If you have that you shouldn't need the cult AdMech book.

>>47370272
so my guard squad can get wrecked just because one bloke was poking out?

>>47365554
>>47365473

For Nurgle I'd guess a modified Tally system.

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Grav Amp:
"When rolling To Wound with a grav weapon, or determine its effect on a vehicle, the bearer can reroll the result"

I'm hearing the argument that it's not basically Shred (when each single dice can be rerolled) but instead you have the option to reroll the entire batch if in case you don't like it.

How does it work?

>>47370186
Do you frown on piracy, too?

>>47370294
I meant in regards to GW and recasting.

But yeah you got screwed in that case.

>>47370245
>>47370254
melta raptors and lascannon havocs sound good
thanks anons

>>47370302
Again, yes. And just to point out, that's not a new ruling, that's a clarification of what the BRB says. You can find the rules for cover in the BRB, and it basically says that already.

>Want to play corsairs but not being megajewed out the ass
I'm guessing it's proxy or nothing? I just want to play violent space elf pirates

>>47370349
Just use DEldar models.

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I want to really annoy a friend who plays Eldar Corsairs so how about this?
HQ- 85
1. Autarch Lord Mezamora- 85
a. Warp Jump Generator- 10
b. Las Blaster- 5
Elites- 160
1. Wraith Guard (5) Sons of Cold Bone- 160
Troops- 150
1. Dire Avengers (4+1) Torch Bearers- 75
a. Exarch- 10
2. Dire Avengers (4+1) Torch Bearers- 75
a. Exarch- 10
Fast Attack- 105
1. Wave Serpent Carrying Hand- 105

>>47370349
They aren't terribly hard to convert using eldar/DE bits and some green stuff with the added bonus of being better Dark Eldar than Dark Eldar.

>>47370342
since when can you wound anything out of LoS except with blasts? That's not in the BRB.

>>47370376
Since you can shoot at a unit if you see any part of it, and you can allocate wounds to the unit. If you want you can shoot Private Joe Head-poke-out and allocate the wounds to Sergeant Blaine In-Full-Cover.

You shoot at units, not models. And models out of LOS provide cover to the unit. But one model in a unit is in LOS, then the unit is still shootable, regardless of how many models are not in LOS.

Hey, can I get some feedback on a list? It's Tyrant's Legion list I whipped up in just a night, so it's probably not that great, but it's just for a quick casual game.

HQ
>Carnac Commodus - 105 pts
>4x Auxilia Bodyguards and Tribune w/ carapace armour, krak grenades and heavy weapon team - 110 pts

ELITES
>10x Retaliators w/ Rhino, meltagun and power maul - 240 pts

TROOPS
>10x Auxilia Armsmen w/ Chimera, meltagun, krak grenades and a meltabomb - 155 pts
>30x Legion Auxilia w/ x3 flamers - 115 pts
>15x Legion Space Marines w/ 2x heavy bolters

HEAVY SUPPORT
>Contemptor Dreadnought w/ Extra Armour, Heavy Flamer and Kheres Assault Cannon - 210 pts
>2x Rapier Laser Destroyers w/ Prefect - 75 pts
>2x Basilisks - 250 pts

I was thinking of getting rid of the rapiers and some other gear and go for some dedicated heavy armour instead, as this list is mostly infantry with only a few transports. Or maybe just go "fuck it" and spent it on more auxilia for maximum pink tide.

>>47370313
Oh right. Yeah. It was Land Raider, forgot which one. Achilles? The one with the Quad Cannon thing.

>>47370307
Yes. As I said, I'm bitter. Piracy allows 'try before you buy', which, despite barely any buying the game at full price once they've tried it, has at least the ability to do so.

Buying Forge World models en masse then bragging about it and their 'sekrit club' just annoyed me.

As I said anon, I'm bitter. Do whatever you want, you won't stop buying recasts or pirating shit, so why does my opinion matter?

>>47369977
>when they don't even support them for the models they want.
GW can give us models, but supporting them won't fix the major issues involving the game and its internal/external balance

i just played 25boys vs 11 khorne beserkers
we both established 150pts
i get first turn
move shoot run kill one
get overwatched 1 dies
>we then realise he went over by lods of points
keep playing and I won thus I felt good for ages

>>47370446
I'm a different anon. I do pirate the shit out of things, but I'm not interested in hunting down recasts at the moment, so I've never bought any.

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Going to start collecting Eldar, what is the most jammy way to play/most irritating models to use for the least amount of points?

>>47370499
Das a picture of dark eldar, scrub.

>>47370519
ok....but its a nice picture though...

>>47370449
All games are unbalanced anon. It does need to get better though. I hope the FAQ will do that.

>>47370467
Lots of people do. I don't mind, it's not me doing it. Nobody gets punished for pirating. So it comes down to ''''morals''''. I don't want to pirate as I fear I'd treat games and stuff differently. If you pay for it, you're more likely to try and get the most out of it.

Thank you for all the kind words about my battle report last night. I will probably try it again sometime in the future

>>47370526
Sums up DE really atm
All style, no substance

>>47370621
>raid a tau city, come back with human chicks
>no scratches on armor
>no blood anywhere
>hair still looks amazing despite moving at breakneck speed

>>47370541
>All games are unbalanced anon
Very true, but unbalance like the difference of Eldar and Orks has to be intentional presuming GW isn't filled with honest to god autistic mental midgets. Blatant favoritism such as we have in this game for what ever reason it maybe is not good for anyone because it even hurts those players who play with favored armies

>>47370646
I don't think so anon. If it was intentional, they would purposely make Orks better, or make one unit better, to sell it to Ork players looking for good units.

But, you might be right.

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Is my friend correct?

>>47370754

No he's wrong

So I recently acquired some used 40k models that were already painted, however, the previous owner absolutely butchered the paint job on the miniatures. What do you recommend I use to remove the paint without damaging the models so I can repaint them?

>>47368449
That had better be a Cohort Cybernetica for the Dominus to be riding so close to the robutts anon. Otherwise he's away from what he should be doing, sticking his dick in tanks.

>>47370793
Why?

>>47370729
You would think but lets look at the CSM. 11% of ~750 fa/tg/uys most popular army in the pool at least collects them even though they are probably the most out of date and in a pretty shitty spot in general. Despite the old/bad rules and ancient models they still seem to sell, so does GW have any reason to fix any of the problems CSM has?

>>47370826
You could choose to roll wounds individually, so you could reroll them one at a time.

>>47370826
"You MAY re-roll the result"

That means you can choose whether or not you want to. Which technically means you can re-roll successful results as well if you really feel like it.

>>47370826
>>47370826

The results aren't a collective. Each wound is individual so you MAY reroll each one

>>47370820
Wouldn't mind as a new LoC variant/10

>>47370729
the problem is multiple writers that don't talk to each other or lose interest in projects

>dude, we should give vanilla bean marines a supplement upgrade about now. it's been what, 2 years?
>ohh, how about some brand new psychic powers, relics, and warlord traits
>fucking sweet dude, let's do it
>hey you know eric down the hall is writing up something for those chaos books. maybe we should go help him instead, chaos is rather weak now
>fuck no, i'm tired of spiky marines and we just wrote a bunch for age of sigmar

3vs1 with split points. Can it happen?

>>47370873

It's a game of plastic soldiers anything can happen

>>47370596
Mind reposting it? Thanks.

>>47370942
the links are still in this thread

See:
>>47365397

It is the first time I've done something like this and I got some good advice for how to improve it for next time.

>>47368973
I still don't get why anybody thinks that Tau is a top army. Even at their most exploitative, kill the marker lights and assault owns them every time. Spam jump infantry and fast vehicles and they fold like a chair.

I know this because I play tau.

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>just now getting into 40K
>unifag, so very little money of my own
>want to do Death Korps of Krieg
>find place to buy minis
>see price tag
Why is plastic this expensive?

>>47370826
This >>47370855
Specifically batch rolling is done for convenience, it's not how the game works by default.

>>47370834
Well we know CSM will be updated this year, so, look forward to that. We'll see what happens.

>>47370866
This is probably the reason.

>X guy makes X rules, which he thinks are balanced
>Y guy makes Y rules, which he thinks are balanced
>Y rules are better than X rules because the idea of balance is subjective and balance changes when put next to other rules

The only solution is to give everybody the same stats.

>>47371016
It's resin, and it's expensive because people will pay for it.

Just go to china for FW stuff.

>>47371016
The same reason a digital download of a video game is 60 dollars

>>47371016
Because they're resin and they're for specialists. Don't like it? Buy from Ebay. Buy proxies. Buy from recasters.

Or, don't get into a hobby in the first place, video games can be pirated, but even if you buy recasts, it will cost. So don't bother until you got a good income stream.

>>47371001
>Kill the Markerlights
>Assualt
Nugger, I play Tau competitively, and you're retarded. If they're assaulting you in the first place you've fucked up.

>>47371016
Death Korps in particular are all resin made by a branch of GW and are markedly more expensive. That said if you really like them either try picking up a little at a time or look for deals online in places like ebay. Alternatively you can try china recasts but contact info is hard to find and quality can vary but for the most part is fine. On the other hand you'll have those little expendables forever so its not a bad investment if you're serious and have a playgroup of friends/club to frequent.

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>>47371001
>Competitive Tau
>Having Markerlights
I mean, that one formation is the only viable way now. Tetras can't cut it after the Nerf.

>>47371112
the new Age of Sigmar board game has a Tzeentch theme.

It also looks like it might be fun.

>>47371129
I feel like I should have known better than to be hopeful, and yet I am still disappointed.

>>47371068
>>47371086
Thanks for the tips, guys.

>>47371129
it really is i played in store and as the preist bloke it was a blast

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>>47371049
it's happened to an extent with some of the recent cookie cutter builds but mostly they're streamlining things or just not giving a fuck about some books. i'm still kinda irked that they put out a quick copy/paste crimson slaughter and black legion update with no decurion or depth but found the time to put on a brand new vanilla book which shows a hell of a lot of devotion (skipping over the lack of support for crimson fists and black templars) in the same week.

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>>47367319
This is a ceace and desist order citizen, you're staining the administrarum, adeptus Mechanicus and inquisition organisations, further activities will earn termination and your biological remains shall be processed into mechanical servitude until your debt with the imperium is paid.

>>47371016
>tfw unifag who uses his excess financial aid to buy plastic men

>>47371184
You seriously want GW to spend more time giving all 2nd Founding rules....

I mean I wouldn't be opposed to a mini Warzone: Rynn for CF v. Orks and a full Warzone: Armageddon for BT, SL, and a real Gazghull

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>>47370645
To be fair if with the way GW draws Shadowtsundere I would leave behind the Tau as well.

Anyone know if Mr Strikeforce is still selling at a discount to anons?

>>47366508
Fail to go into coherency and you are forced to run in the shooting phase

Causes a rules paradox if they have Gone to Ground since they can't run at that point

>>47371288
idk man, this waifu has double ap1 guns and out did the chaptermaster of the raven guard. oh and she's taken a couple dozen gunshots and stab wounds easily

you don't see skulltaker casually doing things like that

Random ideas GW will never hear about or implement, volume 99,942:

>cheap snapfit kit for every major army
>two squads of troops and a basic HQ
>Tau might be 10x kroot, 10x riflewarriors, and fire blade
>Orks might be 22 Boyz, 2 nobs, and a warboss
>includes profiles of the units/weapons so no codex needed
>a basic version of only the necessary rules (IE, no rules for vehicles, flyers, etc) provided online
>priced around $30

>>47371471
>>priced around $30

Far, Far too low. GW would never charge that little.

Are the new Khorne relics too good to take in casual games?

>>47367116
"There's Tyranids eating the Orks we came here to kill.

I guess we can just let them keep doing that until the Orks are dead."

>>47371423
But she ain't kawaii.

>>47371471
Well that sounds like it might make people get into the game. And we can't be having any of that.

>>47371503
>>47371471
especially if they have to make new master and production molds, which will cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars at least for so many new sprues.

At 30 dollars a box, just to break even on a half million dollar mold cost they would need to sell almost 17 thousand kits, but if you add in marketing, materials, and shipping the numbers are far worse.

>>47370873
did a 3v1 spess marines battle brothers vs my nid swarm, they each got 1500 points and i got 4500, shit was fun

>>47370645
Obviously a promotional shot for the upcoming Realspace Raid
*THIS COULD BE YOU*

>>47367116
>An Inquisitor/Rogue Magos and their lackies have decided to pull some SHENANIGANS involving cybernetic mind control devices to turn Tyranids into attack dogs. The One Eye Open rule represents the fact that the tech is unreliable.
>Eldar are using psychic misdirection to get the Tyranids to eat their opponents and not them, while they attempt to achieve some inscrutable goal on the battlefield.
>Dark Eldar are herding a Tyranid swarm into an attack, mostly for the laughs. They plan on capturing a few of the nastier critters after the battle for use in the arena.
>The non-Tyranid army has been infested by Cortex Leeches, a sub-species of ripper that burrows into a sapient being's brain and subsumes them to the will of the Hive Mind.
>Imperial Guard represent soldiers who have joined a Genestealer Cult.


I got nothin' for Necrons though. It seems like they would just fight.
>>47370302
I believe so. You also are supposed to roll and resolve hits by weapon type, so, for example:
>Ten Guardsmen are hiding behind a chimera, one Guard with a Plasmagun popped out to get a shot off. The rest are totally hidden.
>Space Marine squad with 4 Bolters and one missile launcher fire on the squad.
>Sm player declares he will fire the Bolters first.
>Let's say three hits, two kills.
>Guard player removes the plasmagun fellow as he is closest, makes a cover save and fails for the next guy, removes another model who is closest to the firing unit but out of LOS.
>The Missile launcher now cannot fire, as no one is in LOS anymore.

Is this correct? Typing it out it seems like it isn't, but I don't have the books handy.

>>47370645
>Mon-keigh assumes Eldar hair is every anything other than perfect

>>47368547
My groups super casual, but if you forget something that's beneficial to you, you don't get a do-over. You've got to remember your own rules.

>>47367116
Hive Fleet Ultramar eats so many Marines that it begins to follow the Codex Astartes and actively seeks out other Imperium groups to be friends with.

This has caused confusion when Tyranids have arrived to third-party on battles between xenos and Imperial forces. Instead of just eating everything, they kill all of the aliens and seem to make it a goal to protect civillians.

>>47370819
Nah, still haven't gotten around to adding the second squad of robutts for the cohort cybernetica.

And that dreadnaught was the only vehicle on the field. It was a small 1k point game with my friend's new marine army.

>>47370186
>play a pay2win game
>get mad when people find a way to unlock pay2win content for free

>>47370306
It's by individual die.

Although Grav would be slightly less broken if it was the entire batch.

>>47370754
>space marine players un-fucking-ironically being disappointed that Grav is slightly less OP

He has the best weapon type in the game and he's gonna be sad if it can't reroll to wound?

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Where have all the Battleforces gone... bit of a hiatus was going to pick up a couple of battle forces all gone...

>>47370645
That's dark eldar for you bitch, we are fabulous.

>>47371796
they've been replaced by Getting Started! bundles which offer a better deal anyway

>>47371268
>excess financial aid

Tell me your secrets

>>47371827

The getting started bundles (which I saw) are amazing value, if you need their exact contents.

For Necrons, yes I need warriors but I do not need a Stalker or another Overlord...

>>47371509
no. armour of scorn is real nice, straight upgrade to power armor on princes. skullreaver might give D but it's only in fights and on 6s to hit. now some of the tzeentch relics are a tad strong

>>47371503
It was an educated guess based on the price and contents of dark vengeance

>>47371577
You don't try to break even on a kit aimed directly at getting new players into the hobby, you sell it at-cost and repay the one-time investments when they turn around and buy the rest of their army at normal price

>>47371112
>>47371142
Where have you been?

I'll say for like the billionth time cause none of you Chaosfags seem to fucking listen.

WARZONE: FENRIS PART 2 WILL HAVE RUBRIC MARINES.

CHAOS SPACE MARINE 'REWORK' WILL BE AFTER (whether or not straight after is the question, assume to be 'no')

>>47371150
I was tempted as well. The new models are amazing.

>>47371184
2nd founding not getting support? Might as well moan that Angels Sanguine don't. Oh and before you reply, I was miffed too, but I just shrug and move on. Black Templars would have been nice.

>>47371867
at 30 dollars they would be losing a lot of money

they already have deep discounted kits aimed at new players that include army specific rules in the box, see Start Collecting! bundles.

85 dollars for a set of firewarriors, a 3 man crisis team, and an ethereal versus the 135 it would cost to buy each individually.

>>47371864
some of the age of sigmar boxes get silly.

The dinosaur that comes in the lizardman box is sold for 85 dollars, the same price as the box. Why would anyone ever buy the dinosaur separately when they can get the small dino riders and lizard men at no extra cost by purchasing the bundle?

>>47371864
Still worth it. I got the Ad Mech box, despite GW accidentally giving me a free Magos Primas or whatever it's called. I also got the Seraphon box despite having 160 Saurus Warriors and 35 Cavalry already.

>>47371831
>Graduate high school with a 4.0
>Apply to state schools
>Receive full-ride scholarship
>Receive financial aid for books and food
>Only spend 25% of it on books and food
>Receive almost 2000 dollars every semester
>Spend up to half of that how I please, other half into savings

>>47371390
Isn't the unit removed as a casualty if they can't enter cohesion

>>47371931
Yup. I bought the Lizardmen box. I might buy another two since the Carnosaur can be made into a Troglodon. I have an OOP Kroq-Gar, so I wanted a proper one, then a Scar-Vet (or maybe another Oldblood) and the Troglodon.

If the rumour of points for AoS is true, I might get back into it, see how it is. Until then, they're for my display.

>>47371864
yeah
just a shame that some have a better re-buyability than others
looking at you IG

>>47371946
>>Graduate high school with a 4.0
>>Apply to state schools
Sure

>>Receive full-ride scholarship
This is the step wherein you lost me

Best I got covered tuition, left me on the hook for room/board, books, and food

>>47371990
>Going to a college with room/board

You fell for the meme.

>>47371955
I think the decision not to use points for Age of Sigmar was a very interesting one, but one their community was not ready for.

Right when Age of Sigmar was release people immediately found ways to "break" the game, missing the point entirely.

Age of Sigmar has its faults, but the greatest of which isn't that it is a bad product, but that it wasn't the product people wanted.

>>47371082
A competitive assault army will always beat Tau. Always. You're either losing to 18 drop pods or Tyranid lists spamming shrikes and CC tyrants. You'll beat some Eldar and Cron armies, but hardcore assault armies win every time.

>>47371960

Exactly, very strange... so i guess Battleforces are never coming back?

>>47372026
Well put. However, I believe the points are going to be optional. Which I think was the plan all along. It COULD be brilliant.

>WAACfags could netlist to win
>Casualfags could just forget points and do what they want
>Narrativefags can use the (very rule heavy, I thought AoS was suppose to fix this shit) scenarios

It could, I repeat, could, be a great game. My guess is it'll fail simply because people who never played WHFB will shit on it cause they read on DakkaDakka or Whineseer to do so.

Oh well, it won't stop me collecting Lizardmen models. I love dinosaurs, Aztec/Mayan theme shit (it's why I love trolls in WoW) and wacky alien shenanigans.

>>47372105
We're in the age of one-click bundles.

>>47371122
Yah - that's the thing. Pretty much your most efficient delivery system is the commander with drone controller. Those drones are going to snuf it pretty quick if your opponent knows what they are doing.

>>47372128

Makes me sad, I guess eBay it is then

>>47372105
We don't know, but the assumption is 'no'. Battleforces were designed as 'starter kits' anyway.

GW is bringing back the old 'starter kits' in sense of 'you get a model + all the paints' as well. Simple clip fit stuff as well.

>>47372128
Yet Start Collecting bundles offer savings as well. We're not completely in one-click bundles.

>>47372141
The Start Collecting boxes offer savings.

>>47372105
yeah
glad i managed to buy a cadian defence forces in my store even though they were long sold out on the website as my starter

>>47372171

>The Start Collecting boxes offer savings.

I know mate, but I don't need 2/3rds of the contents of my armies Start Collecting box

I wish I did, I really do!

>>47372171
It's weird.

>Star Collecting! comes out
>Nice deals
>Then the one-click bundles for Space Marines pop up even more
Go look, there's like four or five of them that aren't a deal-saver at all right now.

Does anyone have the chaos name generator for Path to Glory? (40k version)

>>47372214
look at metal bands

http://www.metalbandnamegenerator.com/

>>47372193
Wat. That's retarded as shit. Why would you bother?

>>47372191
True, but I keep buying them in the hope of trades/selling on ebay/practice.

>>47372242
>Carpathian Coffin

>>47372255
Fuck if I know.

I mean I'm a retard who missed a fuck ton of mold lines on ~30 marines and painted them (thanks really shitty eyesight, I should get glasses) and have to buy new ones so maybe they hope retards like me buy those bundles.

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>>47372242

>>47372193
yeah
you could even pre order the legion of the damned space marines
while you could get everything in the bundle already at the same price

>>47372284
Damn, that must suck. I hope you get your eyes sorted. I can't really do much modelling, my hands shake due to various reasons.

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Imperial Guard player here, usually play mech list, but recently got my hand on a shitload of guardsmen, so i was thinking running a Unending Host army could be fun.

Flamer squads run first, HQ chills in the middle of the army for +2 cover save.

Anything i should do that could make the list better? I know i lack anti air, but i figured with the insane amount of scoring units, i should be able to focus on holding objectives, i will of course auto loose on Purge the Alien of course lol.
++Vrak's Unending Host Battle-Forged Detachment (1499 pts)++

-HQ- (145 pts)

Rengegade Command Squad
+ Master of the Horde
+ Command Net Vox
+ Chimera (Camo-Netting, Dozer Blade)


-TROOPS- (1124 pts)

RENEGADE INFANTRY PLATOON (311pts)

14 man Renegade Infantry Squad
+ Demagouge
+ Command Net Vox
+ 2 Plasma Guns

14 man Renegade Infantry Squad
+ Militia Training
+ 3 Plasma Guns
+ Renegade Champion(Meltabomb)

14 man Renegade Infantry Squad
+ Militia Training
+ 3 Plasma Guns
+ Renegade Champion(Meltabomb)


RENEGADE INFANTRY PLATOON (201 pts)

14 man Renegade Infantry Squad
+ Demagouge(Meltabomb)
+ Command Net Vox
+ 2 Flamers

14 man Renegade Infantry Squad
+ 3 Flamers
+ Renegade Champion(Meltabomb)

14 man Renegade Infantry Squad
+ 3 Flamers
+ Renegade Champion(Meltabomb)


RENEGADE INFANTRY PLATOON (337 pts)
19 man Renegade Infantry Squad
+ Militia Training
+ 2 Lascannons
+ Demagouge
+ Command Net Vox

20 man Renegade Infantry Squad
+ Militia Training
+ 2 Lascannons

20 man Renegade Infantry Squad
+ Militia Training
+ 2 Lascannons
Renegade Infantry Veterans
+ Meltagun
+ Chimera(2x Heavy Flamer, Dozer Blades)

Renegade Infantry Veterans
+ Meltagun
+ Chimera(2x Heavy Flamer, Dozer Blades)

Renegade Infantry Veterans
+ Meltabomb
+ Meltagun
+ Deep Strike


-HEAVY SUPPORT- (230 pts)

Renegade Tank Squadron
+ 2 Leman Russ Conqurerors(Dozer Blades)