Adeptus Titanicus Returning

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A downsized 3D copy of FW's Warlord Titan, from 2015.

>>47263477
Wasn't old Epic 6mm? Kinda dickish move imo. But at least is something.

>>47263581

Not really much a surprise, they already pretty much said that Epic was going to return at the last Horus Heresy Weekender and that it would be a different size.

Most of the Forumware stuff is closer to 8mm anyway so I'm looking forward to the larger size.

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>>47263477
I've fucking hype.

Going to be the first 40k purchases i've made in yonks.

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I wonder if they'll re-release the old multipart space marine

>>47263477
Never played Adeptus Titanicus or Epic, but if I can get a reasonably sized Titan for an equally reasonably price, I'm in.

Why don't they just go get the old molds out of the bin? would save a lot of time IMO

>>47263721
Those old models are dated and don't fit the modern aesthetic of 40k/30k

>>47263721
Because the looked like shit and weren't even in scale to each other.

>>47263721
>>47263731
>>47263732

But principally it's because GW likes to save warehouse and storage costs by destroying their old master molds.

This is why you'll never see Sisters of Battle or Brettonians ever again, barring brand new molds for all of them.

>>47263477
>poor Descent copy
>poor Battletech copy
Kek, GW looks pretty desperate.

>>47263822
I wonder if the grogs of the 80's said the same thing when Titanicus came out.

>>47263822
Oh look, it's the slav shitposter again.

>>47263822
Add to that: can't into 6mm so must invent new scale.

>no proxies for you

>>47263855
And don't forget about FW prices.

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>>47263675
How the hell you suppose to assemble that?

>>47263869
FW epic prices were actually really reasonable.

>>47263477
Damn,it sounds cool. A pitty GW is run by a bunch of money-thirsty jewampires and it will cost a kidney.
Well,I hope they'll introduce Knights soon after the release. I don't play 40k,but I like them Knight models but can't afford one; having a small Paladin to put on my desk would be lovely.

GET
FUCKIN
HYPED

I can't wait for affordable large armies to become a thing again with an epic scale game.

>>47263885
very carefully

I remember an amusing warseer blog where the guy shot/scaled the model as if he was painting a regular marine, and everyone thought he was an extremely shitty painter.

>>47263890
Aeronautica prices were atrocious, though. Which has me real fucking salty because they dropped support before I had the spare cash to dump into it.

>>47263890
>GW and FW
>reasonable prices

YOU BEAUTAY

>>47263911

They were. That's why GW shut them down. By the end Forge World we making stuff cheaper than GW that was superior in quality, so of course GW HAD to shut them down.

>>47263477
My Dad started playing Warhammer with Adeptus Titanicus in 1988.

Neat.

>>47264122
If he stopped the fame and doesn't listento the news about the hobby anymore, you could gift him that. That would be a lovely present for him I'm sure.

>>47263896
Honestly I would love to grab that Warlord just to paint it. I wouldn't be able to get an actual Warlord titan because of how expensive it is, and buying it "just to paint it" would be impractical with such a large model but the AT version would be right up my alley.

>>47264413
This. If they're not too expensive it's probably what I'll do. I always wanted an Epic Warlord, but they put them out of production before I could purchase the old one.

>>47263581
Old epic titans where a different scale from the 6mm infantry before. But really its close enough that it'll probably only matter if you're mixing FW and 3rd party minis.

>>47264453
Same here. I reckon I'll pick one up on release and only get more if it picks up locally.

>>47263505
>How dare you lift me with a single hand!
>I am the Emperor's wrath! I am the death of a million xenos!

>>47263477
what size is epic? i was about to get some of that but might wait for this if the scale is different.

>>47264576
People are saying Epic was 6mm, the reboot will be 8mm.

>>47264651
mmmgay

Do we have any idea of time frame?

I'm presuming this is a next year at the earliest thing.

>>47264576
Start playing now, buy used and forumware, disregard GW unless titans come at usable size and acceptable price.

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>>47264834
>>47264651
My thoughts exactly...

>Let's reboot the Epic scale.
>But what about the old players and the second hand market?
>img

>>47263906
>blog where the guy shot/scaled the model as if he was painting a regular marine
Link or more clues?

>>47264094
i remeber it got too the point where a FW strike cruiser was about half the cost of a GW one here in Australia. Shame BFG died not long after that.

>>47264934
eh it's not that big a deal. Old minis will still work, they'll just look odd if mixed in the same stands.

>>47265273
which already was the case with the FW epic next to GW epic

I really like EPIC. I still hold up E:A as the best designed game GW ever put out.

Yet I am completely unexcited by this.

Still trying to work out why but, nope, no feelings of hype or nostalgia-fuel at all from this.

>>47264651
>>47264834
>>47264897
>>47264934
if your FLGS are really gonna complain about a few inches difference
maybe find another FLGS

>>47266119
i am complaining about it, since it will look like shit.

cant mix different scales together.

>>47263505
I'LL TAKE A DOZEN

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>>47263477
Any current news/rumors/ideas on the pricing?

>>47266237
$200 per warlord

>>47266164
>cant mix different scales together.
epic has pretty much always been a mess of scales and styles

I'd wait until you see the models before complaining about it, unless you're some kind of purist for one specific release bracket for one specific edition of epic/at/space marine/the ten other names epic has gone under.

>>47263477
I always said Horus Heresy suited Epic. The battles and legions are a much larger scale and who the fuck can be arsed to collect another army of power armoured men?

>>47263477
My only complaint is that I wish they'd gone for 10mm.

>>47264094
You seem to be one of the retards who don't realize they are the same company

>>47263477
Holy shit this might actually make me buy something from GW!

Please tell me I can take those lovely, lovely mars pattern Warhound titans and Lucius pattern Warlords

>>47266237
You will be paying far, far out the ass for it.

>>47263505
>Never declare the Emperor's glory to me or my son again!

>>47263477
>The models will be produced in resin by Forge World.

Dear Chinaman ...

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>>47267494

Very good

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>>47264558
it's so cute :33

>>47266512
Is this shitposting or did you actually hear this somewhere?

>>47268242
Shitposting

>>47268242
probably shitposting.
but if i where to guess at price i reckon around $100. if a warlord is about 6 inches tall that makes it about the size of a thanatar or Leviathan dreadnought I'm pretty sure, and thats about how expensive those are.

>>47266824
in the same sense that parker brothers and Milton Bradley are the same company because they are both owned by Hasbro.

GW and FW being directly tied to each other is a recent development and even now the forgeworld crew are being kept separate as a design studio, but are given the specialist games as well.

>>47266633
>forumware
This. GW can't into scale for shit. Marines alone were several different scales, not to mention the tanks and titans.
This game is either going to be perfectly in line with "6mm" Epic, or it'll be 10mm or possibly even 12mm, but no chance in hell it's actually going to be 8mm.

>>47264897
Sometime next year, not until after Blood Bowl.

>>47263477
.I can't wait to see the rules for this, I hope it scales well in terms of engagement size. I want to play desperate stands where a Warlord desperately tries to defend a forge against hordes of xenos or traitors.

Something like a minigame to see if you can topple an enemy titan with limited forces. IT would really give the feel of how Titans are described as fighting in the books.

What are the chances the rules aren't changing much?

>>47273945
I'd say pretty high.
Changing the rules would mean both additional effort, and risking alienating the audience they're targeting.

>>47274317
thats promising.
Guess its just a question of if FW will price themselves out like they did with aeronautica.

>based on original Epic rules
Where can I actually look at the original rules for Adeptus Titanicus and Space Marine? Someone must have scanned them.

>>47264122
Yeah the Adeptus Titanicus box was my first Games Workshop game. Had to have been 88 or 89. I wonder if any of that stuff is still around at my parents' house.

>>47264934
Well try to think about it from GW's perspective. I hate them as much as the next guy, but I can see why theyd decide to change the scale.

>>47274757
Scribd has a lot if not all of the old rules as pdf files on it, and you can go to Simply Debrid to get them for free if you'd like.

>space marines only
>change in scale to try to fuck over all the 3rd party epic scale minis that have been made over the years and existing model owners

Can't possibly put this in the trash any faster.

>>47263820
They don't destroy their moulds.

>>47275087
>Titan legions=Space marines

Do us all a favor and throw yourself in the trash as well.

>>47275087
I dont think theyre changing the scale 'to fuck everyone over'. Its not unreasonable for them to do this.

>>47274906
going by the devs statements its just an aesthetics thing. like the change too 32mm bases for some 40k minis.
Looks a bit better but on the whole inconsequential.
Epics scale was already messed up enough that this doesn't make old collections or 3rd party stuff incompatible.

>>47275176
It's Games Workshop. It is 100% unquestionably to fuck those people over. Why even pretend it isn't?

>>47275270
I dont think you know anything about Epic, let alone played it. I suspect you're just a retard.

>>47263477
>The game is set during the Horus Heresy in the spirit of the original Adeptus Titanicus.

I wonder if all the stuff they've added to the Horus Heresy will be included, or the Ordinatus engines.

Also, it being 8mm, would it be close enough to 10mm to use terrain in that scale? I was thinking of using the Hawk Wargames paper terrain for beginning games but I'm not sure if it would mesh well.

>>47275270
>>47275408

Guys, wait, wait... what if the company sucked for reasons aaaannnnd it didn't matter if the models were 8mm or 10mm?

>>47274757
Here ya go, this is what I've found for it so far. I can upload some epic stuff if you want it.
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/wkfm7emnlzlp5/Adeptus_Titanicus

>>47275563

Not That guy, but thanks. More would be cool.

>>47275628
Alright, give me a bit and I'll update you.

>>47275494
>I wonder if all the stuff they've added to the Horus Heresy will be included, or the Ordinatus engines
well they mentioned testing scale with a mastadon. so yeah seems pretty likely.

and yeah 10mm terrain will work. even 28mm terrain will work if its nature stuff like hills or trees.

>>47263581
>>47264457
Epic is officially 6mm, but the vehicle scale is closer to 3mm.

>>47275628
Alright, here's Epic. Should be good, let me know if there are any errors, there was a brief hiccup in the upload, but I think it alright.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/0cxfqs82tff8t/Epic_Armageddon

>>47263905
>affordable
>Games Workshop

You are so funny, anon.

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>>47263505
I want one

>>47275967
Other way around, Epic is 'heroic' inflated for 6mm, same way 40k is for 28mm. For example a rhino is like 1.5x the size of a 1:300 M113, and whilst it's a much bigger vehicle to start with, even next to comparable infantry it's chunkier than even the GHQ standard 1:285 model too. Where as 3mm is 1:600 so way smaller. Still, smaller than Battletech's '6mm' which is somewhere nearer to 1:200 these days...

Titans are way out of scale though in every incarnation so far, as at the most consistent size (30 meters for a warlord) they'd need to make Battletech's 10 meter high mechs look closer to Knight miniatures rather than the Warlord size models as they are currently.

It is a right bloody mess really, though honestly it doesn't matter too much until you get up to clearly bigger stuff. 10mm dwarfs 6mm equivalents of the same. A 10mm tank can have as much or more mass to it than a 'heroic' 28mm infantry figure. A 6mm tank will probably have about a torso's worth of the same. Maybe with an arm or leg too if it's big 6mm.

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>>47263636
Only the Horus Heresy infantry. The rest is still 6mm, though at least the forumware Titans are true-scale 6mm. The official Titan models were smaller.

Crazy thing - the old metal Warlord Titan is 2.75" tall. The new one will be… 6". That's 40k knight sized. Will it be 40k knight priced??

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>>47275628
Follow the links in here. NetEpic GOLD is the ruleset with the most direct lineage to Adeptus Titanicus, but updated. Not as good as Epic Armageddon if you're playing with infantry and tanks, imo, but good for Titans.

>>47276394
sounds like they're going for everything being in scale. a 30m tall warlord at 8mm scale would be 6 inches tall.

A bit more information. In terms of release, Titans will be first, followed by HH. Xenos later.

>>47268593

The people who've said it's going to be 8mm are actually part of the FW Design Studio, one of them is even the head of the Specialist Games Team/Studio.

>>47275563
>>47276120

Thanks

>>47276541
Given how GW prices its big figures, even with stuff like that knights boxed set as an example of the direction it might go, that's probably gonna put the game well out of my price range.

>>47275087
>waaaaah I don't want to buy anything ever again ever. I gave GW money in 1994 and now they owe me.

>>47276573
He means that GW minis aren't actually the scale they say they are.

>>47276626
Splitting a niche audience is a bad idea. Whether this is good or not depends on how big the infantry turns out to be. The vehicles being too big is fine; epic vehicles are too small.

>>47276616
given this is the specialist games group i wouldn't be suprised if it doesn't get a betrayal at calth type box with a couple of small forces and some rules fairly cheap as bait to get people wanting to buy the other more expensive stuff.

>>47276538
>Intellectual property infringing
That is just copyright infringement, intellectual property is a made up term with no legal basis. I strongly doubt that GW has had threads deleted here, especially as the OPs of most GW related generals have links for pirated copies of their books. And there is literally nothing wrong with forumware minis, they have some good stuff.

>>47276626
>behead all who insults GW
Bongistan, Bongistan never changes.

>>47276682
Regular 40k vehicles are also too small anyway.

>>47276701
thanks. I was keeping my terms non-technical because I'm likely to get something wrong otherwise.

>>47276120

>Azathoth

Oh shit that's you? I've downloaded so much stuff from your mediafire over the years. Thank you.

>>47276616
depending on how they price it once xenos come out you may see 40k kit based conversions. Warriors and carnifexs would be about right for making heirodules and heirophants for nids. Orks can probably get all sorts of creative with their walker kits and plasticard. and even eldar could use their smaller wraith construct minis as things.

>>47276438
Doubtful since it'll be probably less than 10 pieces and won't have the cost of plastic injection molds involved.

>>47276689
It's already been said by FW that it's going to be all resin and most likely won't have a box set. Probably a core rule book and then you buy the Titans from FW separately.

>>47276616
fwiw, I just split a Renegade box w/a friend for $72 each. Thats not bad for a Knight and some terrain pieces for basing.

>>47276716

They're somewhat asinine complaints though.

The Horus Heresy is pretty much all about the Space Marine Legions, so it's kind of pointless to complain about them. Not to mention that as things stand a person who knows 40k should know how big SM are. Plus it's not even like they're diving right into SM, they're putting out the Titans first.

GW has no obligation to play nice with third party model manufacturers, who either partly or only exist to supplement something GW created and abandoned for a time. With regards to people who have older collections, GW has never exactly been about catering to those who are asinine about possibly minute details, they probably expect most people will just suck it up and play with someone who shows up with older models.

>>47276616
if you need cheap you could probably convert a chinaforge knight into warlord.
not sure what would work for the other titans.

>>47278510
>GW has no obligation to play nice with third party model manufacturers
And with playerbase.

>>47278696
Not the player base that uses 3rd party minis. They're not GW customers why should they care.

>>47278731
You are right hobbyists never were their player base.

>>47278757
They are, but there's no reason for them too keep their stuff fully compatible with 3rd party products.
Expecting them too is just unreasonable.

>>47278807
>They are
Nice imagination

>>47278826
wot? its how it is. pretty much everyone who collects GW is a hobbiest first. all the game focused gamers migrated to actually good games years ago.

>>47278851
>collects GW is a hobbiest first
Nope, hobbyists don't care about title, they care about models, but GW models focused on Warhammerfans, for other people they are ugly as fuck.

>>47278881
So you're saying that hobbyists don't like GW models because they are ugly as fuck?

>>47278881
>hurrr i think its bad that makes it objectively ugly

oh you're one of Those Guys.

>>47279272
No, I am saying that GW focused on Warhammerfans, not on hobbyists.
Also, collecting =/= hobby

>>47279355
warhammer fans are hobbeists (generally.)
focusing on warhammer fans is focusing on hobiests.

>>47279427
>warhammer fans are hobbeists (generally.)
Cllectors =/= hoobyists
Also, most of Warhammer fans cannot even paint their armies in base colours.

>>47279427
>warhammer fans are hobbeists (generally.)
Collectors =/= hoobyists
Also, most of Warhammer fans cannot even paint their armies in base colours.

>>47279456
most do paint. just slowly and not especially impressively. almost all warhammerfans are hobbeists. the hobby aspect is the only good part of GW games and pretty much the only reason anyone bothers.
it may not be your hobby but it is many of ours.

With warhammer collector does inherently mean hobbiest, you can't not get involved in the hobby side at least a little. nobody does the whole unopened packaging collection thing, these aren't action figures.

>>47279580
>almost all warhammerfans are hobbeists.
Nope, they didn't like models, they likes Warhammer setting/fracnhise/whatever.

>>47263477
Its probably all going to be mars pattern stuff isn't it?

>>47279589
>they don't like models they like models instead

wot?

>>47279607
Warhammer is setting, not models.

>>47279614
The setting is only so so. The models are all anyone is really interested in. Liking warhammer and liking models are synonymous.

>>47279595
Probably at first. But FW seem to like doing pattern varients of everything so I'd be surprised if we didn't see the lucious pattern at some point down the road.

>>47279636
>The models are all anyone is really interested in. Liking warhammer and liking models are synonymous.
Say that to RP and DoW players and BLreaders.

>>47263477
>titans are much bigger but infantry are pretty much the same.

Cool. the old titans did seem a little small at times.

>>47277269
Aw, no problem Anon. My account started to get scrutinized pretty heavily so I took it down for a while.

And to keep things on topic, here's Aeronautica Imperialis just to round out the teeny tiny warhams.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/2b960qp6o29gc/Aeronautica_Imperialis

>>47280121
I didn't buy any Epic models until the 2000s, but as far as I've been able to make out, the Titans were originally made for a Titan only game, then 6mm infantry were added because minis smaller than that are pointless (might as well just use chips). I have one original Warlord Titan, and its damn tiny. Barely taller than a Warhound.

The only danger here is the danger of splitting the niche fanbase. GW WILL drop support for this eventually, they've dropped support for every game that isn't 40k in their history. Then you'll have a split fanbase for two unsupported games; this and Epic.

>>47282438
simply creating a new version at all is going to create a split. Inevitably there will be at least some who prefer to stick too the fan managed ruleset and smaller minis. Though mini size disparity won't really be a problem unless GW decide to bring TLoS into epic.

>>47263820
If that was true we wouldn't see them recycling old kits for that new build and paint range aimed at retail stores dumbass.

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>>47278046
>GW and FW not gouging every penny out of your wallet

I find your youthful naive optimism cute and charming.

>>47278046
This won't go for less than 120 USD, 150 or up more likely.

>>47285682
Considering FW wants this to be a 5 titan team vs an equivalent force then that seems like the price they might be aiming for a warlord, I'd even say its going to be around the same price as a plastic knight then a reaver might be half that then a warhound a third of that.

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>>47286520
Even though I doubt the Warlord will be more than $100 USD, I'm going to just pick up the rulebook and stick to using my Forumware titans.

>>47286913

Nice grey tide famalan.

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>>47268475
>GW and FW being directly tied to each other is a recent development

FW has always been part of GW. All their sprues say the miniatures are part of GW limited since FW was a thing

>>47268475
>in the same sense that parker brothers and Milton Bradley are the same company because they are both owned by Hasbro.

Arent those subsidiaries of Hasbro? If so then they are not the same thing. GW, BL and FW are not subsidiaries of any company, they are part of the same company which is called Citadel.

>>47268475
Recent development. Yeah. Right. FW has ALWAYS been part of GW and 'directly tied' to GW, just like BL and just like Warhammer Records was back in the 1980's. FW was started BY GW under Tony Cotteril to 'make large scale miniatures in resin'.

>>47263477
>New Epic style game
>Scale changing to 8mm
>>8mm was deemed the best as you could see the details to the point of telling different armor marks apart
Will the different marks of armor have an actual impact on the game? If not then this is a bullshit cover for the major reasons they're changing the scale:
1) To put the kibosh on recasters and third party people still making Epic stuff
2) To Make poeple who have Epic stuff need to buy new models to keep things in scale(although this obviously isn't necessary, but they'll prey on the people who can't stand possibly having out of scale models)
3) To make it harder for people who do care about scale to use companies like Onslaught who make proxies and the likes

It's an utterly retarded cover-up, especially when you consider the amazing models people have made at 6mm.

>>47288694
Who cares, most people will just buy the rulebook and if it sucks, guess what? There's still NetEpic and NetEpic: Armageddon.

>>47288694
>Being upset when a jew out jews a jew.
Ok?

Who gives a fuck about recasters? Literally living off other peoples work.

>>47288740
>NetEpic

I find it crazy (in a good way) that people are still playing Epic Space Marine. I was a very young child when that was current and I remember my friend's older brother had a whole load of that stuff in his attic. It, amongst other things got me interested in Warhammer even though I've never played it.

>>47288983
Like people always say the only good GW games are the ones GW stopped supporting i.e. Necromunda, Mordheim, BFG, Epic, Blood Bowl etc.

>>47289044
Only specialist game I've actually played a campaign of was Gorkamorka. It was by far the best GW game I ever played.

>>47289229
And Gorkamorka was generally considered the worst (or at least it sold the worst) of all of them.
Which just indicates the overall quality of the spin-off games that were made if a good game was still the worst of them.

Also Gorkamorka was notable for lots of sly testing out of mechanics that were used in 3rd edition 40k shortly after.

>>47282327

Looking over Aeronautica Imperialis some time ago for the lore, I liked the connection that they seemed to create between it and Epic.

>>47282438

Adeptus Titanicus is supposed to be the first product in the range that will become the new Epic.

>>47288694

Different Power Armor MKs have no effect in Horus Heresy or 40k and people buy them because they like the look or want to be true to the lore, so that is likely why they're doing it.

>>47276394
>Other way around, Epic is 'heroic' inflated for 6mm, same way 40k is for 28mm. For example a rhino is like 1.5x the size of a 1:300 M113, and whilst it's a much bigger vehicle to start with, even next to comparable infantry it's chunkier than even the GHQ standard 1:285 model too. Where as 3mm is 1:600 so way smaller. Still, smaller than Battletech's '6mm' which is somewhere nearer to 1:200 these days...

Nope
Epic Space marine infantry as an example, is pretty much exactly right for 6mm/1:285 scale, but none of their vehicles are anywhere close to being able to fit the amount of infantry they are supposed to be.

>>47288694
>8mm was deemed the best as you could see the details to the point of telling different armor marks apart

This is such horseshit honestly. I have no problem telling them apart on the forumware minis, and those are exactly 1:285 scale (which makes normal people about 6mm and people over 2m tall, like space marines about 7mm)

>>47286913
The rules will almost certainly be the worst part of this entire thing though.

>>47290152
Then I'll stick with NE:A. What I'm saying is this can either be a cool game or if it sucks, whatever, not like I haven't been collecting Epic30k stuff a few years now that I can't just keep doing what I've been doing.

>>47286913
>Those pointlessly large magnets on tiny resin arms that weigh nothing.

>>47290152
Aren't Forgeworld the ones doing it though? I can't agree more with GW's designers being bottom of the bin, especially after hearing how they are all paid minimum wage and how most of the good designers have since left. The Forgeworld team actually cares, and they are doing all of the new specialist games.

>>47290195
Your realize with magnets it's more about surface area than pull strength right?

>>47290221
I thought it'd be more about magnetic flux density and joint geometry than simply area

>>47263581
Inventing a new scale is as close as you can get to tabletop DRM and end user licensing

>>47290216
FW aren't any better at writing rules.

>>47290261
Compared to GW? They are.

>>47290221
You do realize that a good neo magnet 2mm wide can lift the entire titan, right?

There is absolutely no reason to turn it into an eyesore when a magnet that fits into a drill hole does the job and then some.

>>47290283
You can argue that they're less cynical, but the rules are just as sloppily written.

>>47290355
You do realize with a 2mm magnet as soon as someone touches the arm from the side and any connection is lost it'll just come off right?

>>47290283
They're really about the same. You just notice less in HH because 90% of the armies are the exact same.

>>47290375
This is true, an unclear paragraph, a typo or some poor amateur editing and vagueness can be fixed with a FAQ, an entire book written to make make people buy formations can't.

>>47290431
If you're using shitty magnets, which is mysterious since they're cheap. I have all my warhounds and my reaver magnetized with little dinky 2x1mm magnets and they're strong enough to make the arm jump into the air and connect from about an inch away. I can lift them by the arms, and rotate the arms side to side easily without them coming off. They come off if I hold them still and pull.

I can lift the reaver by the missile pod, but not by the head or arms (since the angle makes them come off) but it's more than okay for gaming.

>>47286913
>lucius warlord
>mars reaver/warhounds
legit triggered, m8

>>47290494
They don't make truescale lucius warhounds, m8.

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>>47290509
m80

>>47290260
they didn't invent a new scale 1:200 is common enough to find.

>>47290541
>Truescale

Try again.

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>>47290568
chubby chasers pls go

Fat scale isn't true scale.

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>>47290618
Don't be jealous they look a hell of a lot better than the trash you just posted.

>>47290665
>mars
>look better than lucius
cool story, m89

>>47288740
And I get that. If the rulebook is made available separate for a reasonable price I might even pick it up. I imagine that it'll only be available in the box set, though.

>>47288951
I just think they shouldn't bullshit people with this "hurr, you can make out the marks of armor better" thing. Just come out and say "we're sick of recasters and third party companies making money off of something we killed in favor of trying to recreate it at the wrong scale."

>>47289894
But using CAD, as they have been, would let them do that at 6mm. We've seen it from forumware stuff.

>>47290740
>box set

There will be no box set. FW has already said that much. It's not going to be released like B@C or BB. All models are going to be resin.

>>47290808
>no boxed set

Well there's goes my ability to afford this shit, just like aeronatica.

>>47290878
They'll probably get recasted.

>>47290808
>Resin infantry

Please no.

>>47290878
Hobbies are expensive, news at 11.

>>47290808
Well that's good to know.

Now the dreadful question: how much will the book cost?

>>47290878
Aeronautica's largest problem was requiring the S&H from their main offices, limiting people to huge/group orders or paying out the nose. If the rumors of FW being able to get shipped to stores has any weight, that'll be alleviated a good deal.

who knows what'll happen, though

>>47290983
$100 is it's hardcover.

>>47290983
If it's like a standard Horus Heresy book, ~$100 USD but they're worth it.

>>47291149
If it's not as nice as a HH standard book it'll probably be $75 like an IA book.

>>47291105
>>47291149
>$100 for a rule book
Guess I won't be buying that then.

>>47291221
Ok.

>>47290982
That's not a good attitude to take unless you want this to be DOA too.

>>47291415
The best attitude to have when a new game comes out is to not balk at the price if you're interested in it.

>>47291415
As far as hobbies go this is a cheap one, if the stuff isnt up to your standards of value then seek elsewhere or other hobbies, historical minis may be more to your fancy.

>>47291621
No, it's entirely reasonable to be interested in something but be turned off by a ridiculous price.

>>47291665
Then don't bitch about a game being DOA when you won't spend money on it.

>>47290740
why does it have to be a malicious reason? There's no real reason to doubt the "we chose that because it makes the minis look nicer" thing. Thats not a new reason from GW designers.

>>47291724
Because nowadays GW is synonymous with corporate greed and a company who only does things to better it's bottomline. Hopefully they can work away from that in the next decade or so. But yeah, GW is an easy company to hate.

>>47291680
I want you to sit there and think really really hard about what you just posted.

>>47291724
Dont you know anon? GW is evil incarnate, if you dont hate everything they do then you must be part of their malicious schemes to ruin our personal economies.

>>47291767
so in short the public assumption is going to be "if GW did it, it will be bad and for bad reasons" no matter what it's actually doing?

>>47291724
Because they could easily have gone for 10mm but didn't because other things use that size. They chose a size that isn't compatible with anything on purpose, not by coincidence.

>>47291852
or like they said they didn't because it would make the titans too big. as it is the 6 inch warlord is approaching too huge.

>>47291845
Yup

>>47291852
8mm is compatible with a lot of stuff. Its 1:200. There's not so many wargames dedicated to that size but plenty of minis are out there.

>>47291845
PR companies exist for a reason. Pretty GW sure hasn't had one until recently.

>>47291845
Depends on how much nostalgia the target customer has. I've seen some serious boners over the idea of warhammer quest being back, despite the age of shitmar stylings.

But cynicism regarding GW is not a bad thing to maintain. They deserve no loyalty, no implicit trust, only to be treated like the corporation that they are. Sometimes the products will be what people want, other times we get a Dreadfleet.

And no amount of hype and nostalgia can make a Dreadfleet not garbage.

>>47291997
>having loyalty to a publicly traded corporation ever

I will likely buy some Titans for this, but have no investment in it. If it sparks more interest in the Epic scale, that's great too.

>>47291997
its one thing to have some healthy cynicism with GW.
But just declareing everything bad and deliberately so because GW hates us is taking it too far.

>>47291724
GW gives me no reason to believe it isn't. They've dicked over their fans so many times in the very recent past that when they make an announcement like this it screams "we're trying to fuck SOMEBODY."

Don't get me wrong, I liked Epic, Modhiem, Warmaster and Blood Bowl. I even played a little BFG back in the day. They killed all those games in favor of blowing 40k and WHFB way out of scale, and then brutally killing the latter. They've made a lot of really bad decisions in the last decade or so that makes me entirely skeptical of their motives.

>>47292303
It's the only reasonable assumption because they've done nothing to the contrary.

>>47292303
I think it's less "GW hates us" and more "GW doesn't want any sort of competition." I can't think of any other games at 8mm, let alone sci-fi games. But you have companies like Onslaught who make 6mm stuff for Epic and make good money doing it. Obviously you don't want to let them continue to be competition so might as well going to another scale. 10mm? Dropzone Commander is sitting strong there(and the apparent "titans would be too big thing). Anything bigger than that and you'd lose the scale of the battles that made Epic so good.

I want this to be good, I really do, because I did enjoy Epic back in the day. I want the new Blood Bowl set to be good, same with the alleged reboot of BFG. I have so few reasons to believe it will be, though.

>>47292568
bloodbowl is looking promising at least.
from what I've seen the rules are largely unchanged. Big difference is newer sculpts and some of the extra bits seem to have been redone in plastic instead of card.

>>47292833
Yeah Specialist has said the rules are the same as the CRP. Rosters and League rules are where most of the changes will be.

>>47292364
the did do the new base size for marines and such thing. which only hurts their bottom line as they had to invest in new molds but make no extra money from it. but was done because the designers thought it looks better (and it does)

Hopefully they get around to Orks. Orks need a modern Epic line badly.

>>47293217
that's probably an even longer term thing. and dependant on the initial release not flopping.

>>47293328
A lot of armies didn't even get updates before they pulled the plug on EA. So Epic Orks are minis circa 1991. Not an issue with Nids, since oldschool Nids are way cooler than the current look, but oldschool Orks are just....lame.

>>47292568
I can understand the reasoning but I think they came to the wrong conclusions.

Instead of beating other 6mm manufacturers on quality and tapping into the hugely dedicated current epic players they're changing scales.

>>47293217
They already do, it's just not made by GW

>>47294248
i don't think they'll have much trouble with the existing epic players. we're already used too inconsistent scales.

>>47293596
>oldschool Nids are way cooler than the current look
whats it like being so wrong?

>>47294414
They are boring and all look the same.

I'll grant that most of the models aren't offensively bad anymore, though, like the 3e shit that was current when I stopped playing 40k proper.

so they plan to revist old designs that never made it too minis.

Will we finally see a Psi Titan.

>>47290152

They may just use the old rules, like they are with Bloodbowl.

>>47292363

They dropped support for those games because Gorkamorka got overproduced and caused marketing to shit their pants.

>>47294658

There is talk of FW considering doing work on more Titans, apparently something in size between the Warhound and Reaver is what they will consider next and the Nemesis is possibly the biggest Titan they will do.

GW also apparently has the plastic capabilities now to produce something the size of a Warhound.

>>47295868
>There is talk of FW considering doing work on more Titans, apparently something in size between the Warhound and Reaver is what they will consider next and the Nemesis is possibly the biggest Titan they will do.

The inbetween size and Nemesis titan stuff is regarding 28mm 40k, not Adeptus Titanicus.

>>47295868
>They dropped support for those games because Gorkamorka got overproduced and caused marketing to shit their pants.
Source, please. Looks like you very well informed.

>>47296145

Wasn't Gorkamorka entirely, but it was a factor.

http://unpluggedgames.co.uk/features/blood-dice-and-darkness-how-warhammer-defined-gaming-for-a-generation/

>GorkaMorka was another skirmish-scale game. But where Necromunda had focused on gang warfare in a cramped, claustrophobic urban setting, this new release depicted battles on an arid desert planet between rival bands of savage Space Orks. Marooned after their spacecraft crash-landed on the isolated world, they fought using salvaged and highly unpredictable vehicles and equipment.

>Both games met with a positive reaction from players, but according to Priestley they led to a crisis within the company – now headed by Tom Kirby, Games Workshop’s former general manager, who led a management buyout that saw Bryan Ansell depart in 1991.

>“Tom had to borrow a lot of money to buy the business,” Priestley said. “That meant we had to grow the company very quickly.

>“I thought that one way to do that would be to expand the product line, so you’d have Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000, then this series of games that would let you explore the universe at a much closer, more detailed level.

>“But it ended up being one of the great dividing points of Games Workshop. We’d grown internationally at a very fast pace, and we had to deal with French, Spanish, Italian versions of the games. The print runs of the foreign language editions were always bigger than we could sell, and after several near-disasters where we’d printed way too many of something, GorkaMorka being a classic example, we’d nearly bankrupted the company.”

>The financial scare spooked management, Priestley said, leading to a change in Games Workshop’s culture.

>“The appetite for new games just disappeared,” he said.

>>47296280

Fucking french and german retards not knowing how to read simple english.

>>47295868
>They may just use the old rules, like they are with Bloodbowl.
word from gav thorpe is that its based on the original adeptus titanicus rules. just with some updates.

>>47296280
>now headed by Tom Kirby, Games Workshop’s former general manager,
So problem was in GW.
>>47296524
>from gav thorpe
Here is the problem.

>>47296280
> We were selling like hot cakes but because we oversupplied our demand in several cases, we just couldn't be arsed to develop new stuff

Christ, isn't it time we abandoned everything GW prints out and let them just be a modeling company they so dearly want to be?

>>47296280
Did Kirby ever do anything that wasn't entierly motivated by money?

>>47297788
>Did GW ever do anything that wasn't entierly motivated by money?
fix

>>47297840
>oh no a company is acting like a company.

>>47286913
where the fuck do I get these?

>>47298378
Sign up to the taccom forums, lurk more and if the community trusts you can ask the older members a casters contact info.

>>47298314
>Defending g EA-tier buisnes model.

>>47298449
>>47298378
You seriously just need to post your email in epic threads on tg and one pf the recasters will contact you eventually.

The main reasons I'm excited about this is that 8mm scale GW vehicles are going to be closer to the right scale for 6mm space marines than the 6mm ones are.

Gw has not fucking once released a transport vehicle that could hold ten marines without having to dismember them and stack the limbs to the roof, or tear out the engines and interior and Flintstones it toward the enemy with tewir feet sticking out below.

>>47296280
Remember this whenever you hear a shill talking about discontinued games being "flops" or not selling well. It simply isn't true. GW is just a poorly run business.