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>>47253828
He's gonna have to face the blingmander.

>>47253844
>he never got a model

best tau suit design and it wasn't even by GW

>>47253822
I missed a thread, why were their mouths closed on the bottom pic?

Plastic MkIII marines when?

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A weapon to snipe Titans?

>>47253860
Because someone thought that if you erased the <o> mouth, they'd all look horrified edition.

>>47253822
Motion to keep this OP image

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>>47253855

>>47253876
they do look surprised

Death from the skies
searchable pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/1w7bwdw8l093jl7/Derps_from_the_Skiez.pdf

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>>47253855

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>>47253869

does anyone have a death from the skies scan? would like to read the rules before buying more flyers.

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So my Terminator Cadre just arrived! How would you guys suggest I equip them?

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>>47253978

>>47253981
>7 models
>6 termis and a spell familiar

Up until this kit, that spell familiar was just considered a bit.

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>>47253903
Yeah, the guy wasn't wrong, or anything.

>>47253855
Blingmmander is a purely trolling form of commander to come out of the FAQ fiasco. A Farsight commander who has all 14 Tau/Farsight relics while Marines were forced to go to one relic per model.

>>47253844
>>47253900
>>47253920
Pic related. Fluff-wise we could get a generic XV-22 now, with missile pod and flamer wargear options.

>>47253981
Combi-weapons, marks if you want. Deep Strike them, unload your special weapons and hope they survive into CC

>>47254023
I just wanted to point this out.

>every youtube painting tutorial is exclusively airbrushing

What went wrong?

I wish I could paint well so I could make my own.

>the full chapter of the Red Scorpions and the Admech forces will fight the Tau

Isn't that like overkill?

>>47254030
I'd totally dig a generic XV-22, though I feel like people would end up abusing it. Cheap Independent Characters with Stealth and Shrouded?

>>47253869
Code name: Resin Suit

>>47254077
>tau will still win
Bruh....
they put Culln in a leviathan dread doe

>>47253869
All I want to do is mount that gun on a bunker or a tank

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>>47254077
When the opposition has plot armour as thick as the Tau, you need to bring in the really big guns.

>>47254077
The forgeworld isn't abandoned, either.

>>47254077

>Will fight the Tau.

How? There's a bloody Space Wall of Fire in the middle.

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Which book is most fun to use,
and why is it pic-related?

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>>47253869

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>>47254012
>>47253906
Thanks

also:
I started a black templars army yesterday.
I would like to field a land raider spearhead + 3 crusader quads with hidden fist + melta + power sword as upgrades. Champion as HQ for maximum keks against Tyranids and baby carrier.
What should i add after that?

>>47254077
Space Marines aren't good at killing anything that adapts to their battle strategies, because every chapter has exactly one tactic that it applies to every battle

Admech won't do anything because their love/hate boner for the Tau's technological advancement will have them get distracted the moment they find a pretty toy

the tau will fail to take the forgeworld but will inflict huge losses on the opposition and make up for it by taking a bunch of worlds somewhere else while the imperium isn't looking

remember: "they just keep fucking winning despite all odds" is the tau's galactic win condition, and farsight's rebellion is their failure condition, and since every faction needs those two things in place at 999.M42, they'll never change or advance

>>47254120
they'll build spacefire-proof suits, just watch

>>47254135
because the inquisition is the most fun faction in fluff

>>47254078
Pfft, take him and Darkstrider with a team of breachers, what could be wrong with that?

>>47254182
Not to mention baseline Tau using the mirrorcodex.

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hoi

>>47254135
Because 92 points for 3 twinlinked meltaguns and a denial die in a razorback.

>>47254077
Imperials. They won't expect Cullen's pre-Final form.

>>47254231
It needs a Commissar who's pissed at the heresy.

>>47254120
1-We don't know when this FW event occurs in the timeline

2-The TSE forces (Aun'Va and Shadowsun's coalitions) are on the other side of the wall. That's a sizeable force of Tau.

>>47254078
It COULD have been what the Ghostkeel is, but now I can't see them adding ANOTHER elite stealth unit.

I could see it being added as an option for the Commander, though.
>For 10 points, replace your Crisis suit with an XV-24 Stealth Suit for XX points, granting 3+ Sv and Stealth/Shrouded

Just goes to show how cost effective Shadowsun is, though. She's a Commander with one less Strength, Toughness, and Wound, one additional Initiative, 5++, stealth/shrouded, "Defender of the Greater Good", and a guaranteed warlord trait. And she only pays 10 points for all of that, because a Commander with advanced targeting relay and two fusion blasters is 125 points.

>>47254353
They could potentially make it a Stealth team upgrade as well, having you buy it for the Shas'ui to give them two guns.

>>47254198
I'd rather have mid-grade pulse blast weapons between the infantry tier and the stormsurge tier.

>>47254420
Maybe, but it would make the squad really weird.

One model with a fusion blaster, one shas'ui with two, and a third model with a burst cannon? Although they could always change it so only the shas'ui can take the fusion blaster, but can take a second with XV24.

Although is that even worth it? The squad already has stealth/shrouded, what would the suit even give other than a second gun with an armor tax?

Anyone got the general cover with the hybrid guardsman in full size?

>>47254231
>onen guardsmen returning armor lost in blast
>another offers his belt so he may use it to attach armor.
>guardsmen in back makes room for securing PoW
>last guardsmen stays on guard

http://openthekrate.com/

The link to this site was given out in the warhammer fest goodybags. WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

>>47254577
>inb4 it's another smaller crate

>>47253981
Chain Fists and 2 with Combi melta's. MoN or MoZ are both viable, but expensive.

>>47253869
>S:D ap1 heavy one
>sniping titans
What are voidshields?

>>47254656

What if it has a rule that bypasses Void Shields? Railgun Penetrator?

>>47254669
Hah, cute, nothing does that, not even the main cannons on capitol ships, hell I dont even thinks the Blackstone fortresseses or Planet Killer did.

>>47254669
How would that even work (fluffwise)?

>>47254669
>I don't know how void shields work the post
Don't embarrass yourself anon.

>>47254776

What if it is mean to overcharge the shield?

>>47253869
A weapon to surpass metalgear.

>Find complete terminator squad sprues on ebay for a dollar
>Shipping is four
Fuck yeah, Termie squad for five dolla yeah
>Get bid-sniped. Price spikes up to $5.
>Try to out bid, price is now at $11
Shit.
>Seller has another auction for the same thing going, only bidder is the guy who bid-sniped me.
Yeah, I drove the price up. I'm not proud of it, but that shit made me mad. If no one had noticed it for three more days, I'd be the proud owner of ridiculously discounted Termies.

>>47253822
so i painted a fire prism for tank shock and afterwards we heard we will be able to play with our stuff in an event. some kinf of combat patrol of 400 points.

whats the most stupid army of 400 points i can make with the following restrictions.
-need 1 fire prism
-need 1 infantry unit

i already know someone will bring a monolith since he painted that.

>>47254656
>>47254669
why not just use your large number of long range S7 shots to take down the AV12 shields first?
Or are we in that weird 'pretend they're is nothing else in the army' land?

kk i gotta ask because me and this fucker are debating, Hypothetically if Orks spores spawned somewhere in Africa and humanity didn't have warhammer lore to explain what Orks were and we have to figure out what an Ork was from scratch would humanity be able to deal with them until we at least reached the space age or will Orks be the end of humanity?

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>IA 14
>Tau vs Mechanicus/Space Marines

Because ANY of those need more toys

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>>47254842
It's like you've never used eBay before or something.

>>47254809
You can't.
The power of any single shot is bled into the warp.
A barrage of sufficiently powerful shots to dissipate individual shields is the only way.

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>>47254798

Not as well as Time Displacer bombs.

>>47254884
I just have a lower budget than most warhammer players is all. The other guy just wanted it more than me in the end.

>>47254875

Mechanicus certainly do, they're a 8 kit faction.

>>47254933
And out of those 8 kits 7 are top tier rules-wise

>>47254869
Fire, grenades and bullets kill the mature orks just just fine.
Fire purges spores as long ans the pressure is low enough not to get them airbourne before incineration.

>>47254875
IA14 is supposed to let Cult Mechanicius take lots of FW 30k Mechanicius models. So it's a pretty simple business strategy.

Where can I find a list of tournaments in SoCal?

>>47254875
Dont worry, They'll shit out IA 15 where all the loser factions will team up to fight space marines again.

The space marines will get the best stuff out of the book

>>47254940

Oh no!

That absolutely means they have diversity as a faction and isn't at all irrelevant to the reasons you'd want more models!

The Emperor's Barbeque.

-CCS, 60 points.
+3 flamers, 15 points.
+Heavy flamer, 10 points.
Total, 85 points.

+Chimera, 65 points.
+2 heavy flamers, free.


-Infantry platoon:

-PCS, 30 points.
+3 flamers, 15 points.
+Heavy flamer, 10 points.

+Chimera, 65 points.
+2 heavy flamers, free.

-Infantry squad, 50 points.
+Flamer, 5 points.

-Infantry squad, 50 points.
+Flamer, 5 points.

-Special weapons squad, 30 points.
+3 flamers, 15 points.

-Special weapons squad, 30 points.
+3 flamers, 15 points.

-Special weapons squad, 30 points.
+3 flamers, 15 points.


-Infantry platoon:

-PCS, 30 points.
+3 flamers, 15 points.
+Heavy flamer, 10 points.

+Chimera, 65 points.
+2 heavy flamers, free.

-Infantry squad, 50 points.
+Flamer, 5 points.

-Infantry squad, 50 points.
+Flamer, 5 points.

-Special weapons squad, 30 points.
+3 flamers, 15 points.

-Special weapons squad, 30 points.
+3 flamers, 15 points.

-Special weapons squad, 30 points.
+3 flamers, 15 points.


-Hellhound, 125 points.
+Heavy flamer, free.


31 flamers, 10 heavy flamers, 1 inferno cannon. 1000 points.

>>47254966
>>47254942
Theyll also soon have access to the entire Mechanicum range, so theyll have triple the models instantly

poor poor mechanicus

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>>47254077

>the full chapter of the Red Scorpions and the Admech forces will fight the Tau

Oh that's a shame, I'll miss the Red Scorpions. The will Tau massacre every Red Scorpion and slay every single Ad Mech, conquer the surrounding 17 systems and 30 worlds, The 560 Billion humans living there instantly join the greater good and join the auxiliaries and genocide anyone who dares question the greater good.

I simply can't wait :^) I love having the Tau and their fair and balanced and fluff list players in my game system :^)

>>47254884
im having trouble processing that image....

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>>47254776
>>47254783
>>47254798

>>47255008
>>47253869
Hmmm....

How do Navigators feels when they are close to the Tyranids?

Can Void Shields Collapse due the Shadow of the Warp?

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>>47254997
I just want one solid imperial victory against the Tau.

or I want a phyrric victory that doesn't result from Omnissiah ex Machina after the Tau outmaneuver the Astartes, Inquisition, Admech, and Guard commanders while having 364 plots in action and deceiving all the leaders and ambushing them all while holding off imperial assassins, killing chapter masters, and folding their battlesuit material over 1,000 times in an honorabru display.

>>47255099
Bad
In principle no, but who know what the writers pull out their asses next, shit like >>47255008
happens,

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Are these going to be Weapons of Mass Destruction or Anti-aircraft missiles?

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>>47255129

>>47255129
They might be D missiles

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Mechanicus could into Drones too.

>>47254988
Ya. Without making a single new kit Forgeworld literally just opened the doors to 40k AdMech players.

It's a solid business plan.

But go ahead what do you wish IA14 was?

>>47255113

The running joke is the Imperials aren't really trying. It's either the Imperium withdrawing at cost or the Imperium letting politics dictate policy while Space Marines are just waiting out the clock until they inevitably withdraw because it was all a waste of time in the first place.

If the Imperium ever got serious, you will see the Minotaurs on the field.

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>>47255156

Apocalyptic ones?

>>47255168
>If the Imperium ever got serious

The thing is the Imperials got serious and the Tau sent them backing.

The only joke here is that the Imperials launched two failed crusades at the Tau.

>>47255177
The Tau ones, which are seeker missiles, except you can spend a markerlight token to turn them into strength D.

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>>47255129

Or'es'Ka was right! A True Visionary!

>>47255113

It'll never happen, they have to keep selling these Riptides to these tryhard WAAC faggots, how better to get these tryhard WAAC faggots buying more Tau stuff? Endless domination of everything in the fluff.

The end game in 40k is no longer the Trillions of Necrons waking.

It's no longer a dozen pronged hive fleet devouring the galaxy

It's no longer the Warp spilling over into real space and the Chaos Gods extinguishing everyting.

Nope, it's the Tau sweeping aside the Imperium, Orks, Chaos, Tyranids, Eldar, Necrons like rats.

Keep buying those Riptides :^)

>>47255160
I love it when they do mechanicus "prequels" of CSM stuff.

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>release a whole new book just to give tau new guns for their big suit

>Meanwhile the entire Ork FW range is basically unusable and unsupported and one of the orks best models was discontinued

>>47253822
hey WHG, i'm playing stellaris and i'm aiming to make an imperium of man similae, would thye use laser weapons, missiles, or projectiles on their spessboats?

>>47255207
>Meanwhile the entire Ork GW range is basically unusable and unsupported and one of the orks best models was discontinued

ftfy

>>47255201
Have you any other examples? I really like the concept too.

>>47255207
About half the ork range just got discontinued man, there's not been a purge this bad since AoS.

>>47255118
>50/50 chance to bypass 1 voidshield against a single superheavy
>on an apoc formation.

That's probably the least bullshit way you can have something bypass voidshields. At that point it's either bullshit in principle or this is an example of a non-bullshit version.

>>47255156
>>47255190
I wish they'd do separate profiles for Dimension weapons and "hit shit real hard" weapons.

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>>47254810
Nah that's this.

>>47254875
At least IA14 is following the trend of not making Tau lose. Culln, Chapter Master of the Red Scorpions, gets bunged into a Dread.

>it's a anon moans about his specific army not getting updated edition episode story post

Buy less stuff from recasters and maybe you'll change FW's mind.

>>47255189

Yeah that wasn't them being serious, that was politicians hijacking resources to fellate their egos. You don't see whole chapters risking total annihilation to win against the Tau because everyone knowledgeable about the Tau knows it's not worth the effort.

>>47255189

The Emperor and all his Primarchs at the height of the great crusade could not even put a dent in the armor of the Tau in their current state. They've won 40k

>>47255223
AoS hasn't purged anything... You know that, right? Rules for everything still exist. Hell they even release a shitty book for them all.

GW is removing shit it doesn't want to keep the moulds for.

>>47255168
Well Forge World has a colossal boner for the Scorpions. So maybe something decisive will happen though.

>>47255237
>Buy less stuff from recasters and maybe you'll change FW's mind.

Yes, because Horus Heresy being up and away the biggest market for recasts has dampened FW's weekly release of new heresy kits

>>47255262
By that logic forgeworld didn't remove anything either.

>>47255237
been buying Ork stuff since 2006, hasnt seemed to convince any GW employees, please think before posting again

>>47255227
It doesn't say it stops it's penetration after the first shield is bypassed.

>>47255200
>t'll never happen, they have to keep selling these Riptides to these tryhard WAAC faggots, how better to get these tryhard WAAC faggots buying more Tau stuff? Endless domination of everything in the fluff.

The WAAC stuff is what sells the most. What, you never wondered why Space Marines were the best selling faction?

Seriously, though, do we have to have the ass-poked shitters come out of the woodwork when a new model is announced
every
single
time?

Like, can you just not bitch about the last game that you lost and apply blindly every single bad stereotype to every player of that faction? There's a million fucking cunts playing the game, and they aren't all Tau or Eldar.

>>47255200
>Nope, it's the Tau sweeping aside the Imperium, Orks, Chaos, Tyranids, Eldar, Necrons like rats.

"Given half a chance they'll trail a blaze of glory across the galaxy"

-Jeremy Vetrock on the Tau

The galaxy gave the Tau the chance they need. Prepare your anuses.

>>47255290
so now you're down to a 25% chance to get to the titan?
Still not very BS if you want bypassing void shields to be considered 'not bullshit in principle'.

>>47255255
>The Emperor and all his Primarchs at the height of the great crusade could not even put a dent in the armor of the Tau in their current state. They've won 40k

Nigga what

The Primarchs and the Emperor CREATED the Imperium that exists today in less than a few centuries. Before the Unification Wars, there was no Imperium - the Sol System itself wasn't even united. They basically conquered the galaxy by themselves, and pushed back against aliens and other human empires alike, including the single largest Ork invasion the galaxy had ever seen at that point (and Orks are one of the enemies Tau have the hardest time dealing with).

Claiming they're unable to beat a tiny, multi-system empire that only with a minor tech advantage is just completely asinine.

>>47255297

Riptide Cadre playing WAAC fag spotted. Die in a fire.

>>47255311
Lol a galaxy is nothing. Tau confirmed shitters.

>>47255227
Yeah, it's pretty dramatically underwhelming.

However, when you consider that each one it punches through gives you the opportunity to punch through the next, that there are more than one shots being fired per model, and more than one model in the formation, it's alright.

>>47255220
all of the above.

Lance weapons are uber super lasers.

Missiles are 'torpedos' are used all the time.

Projectiles are macrocannons, which are things like railguns, and fuckheuge cannon, etc.

>>47255282
i'm only messing anon, but the chances are things will be re-released.

You make a good point about FW. They removed the Barracuda... Then re-released it for IA14. So, based on that, we have nothing to worry about!

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Does the god emperor actually have a name?

>>47255351
well shit, guess it's whatever then.

>>47254517
he doesnt look like he wants to return it

>>47255311
>it's a Carnac uses totally irrelevant points to make his headcanon viable episode

Fuck sake. FFC is getting a letter.

>>47255344
I play Orks. It gives me plenty of perspective on which factions are cunty shits.

>>47255356
>Emperor
No.

>Whatever.
Lance weapons are most iconic. Go with lasers.

>>47255252
It was them being serious. The High Lords mustered fuckhuge armada and sent it at the Tau.

I mean did you read Kauyon? Hundreds of marines died and many more were wounded in the starting stages of one war on a single single in a sector wide warzone.

Also the tank battles fought in that warzone are among the largest tank battles the Imperium ever fought.

The Crusade was meant to push the Tau back across the gulf, despite all the resources poured into the effort, it fell apart.

>>47255327
Now I don't consider it OP or broke, it's just counter to void-shield lore.

>>47255356
Donald Trump

>>47255297
>theres a million cunts playing the game, and they aren't all Tau or Eldar

Ive seen plenty of decent himanbeings playing Eldar over the years. But since the Riptide/6th ed. - Tau seems to be played exclusively by autists and douchelords. Stereotypes exist for a reason.

>>47255390
yes. this is what the first of the god's chosen will be named. (as close as i can get to having a god emp, so...)

>>47255378
gotchu senpai.

So I just noticed the Wargear for my Blood Angels Tactical Squad is:
Power armor
Boltgun
Bolt Pistol
Frags
Kraks
In the rules below it doesn't say any of the regular units can take a melee weapon, only the sergeant. Does this mean (other than the 1-2 SM that can take special and/or heavy) their options are either the Boltgun or the Pistol? Can't slap on a chainsword or something? Obviously the boltgun is superior to the pistol so is the idea to swap as many out as I can? It doesn't say anything like "Your Spehs Mareens may swap out their bolt pistol for a boltgun ... free" like it says with some other units, does that mean a certain number have to have pistols while... Someone just explain this shit please

>>47255367
You see this whole thread? Everyone agrees with Jeremy's quote.

Only you want to make it personal. You petty little gremlin. Seriously disagreeing with a respected GW developer. The gall. The rudeness.

>>47255375
Pics or it never happened.

>>47255336
>Orks are one of the enemies Tau have the hardest time dealing with).

The most difficult enemy for the Tau was Tyranids, pound for pound. Their struggle with the Orks was sheer, collosal numbers. They realized they were in a fight for sheer survival the moment their scanners picked up the Ork fleet.

>>47254111

It will be one shot by a tau commander, mark my words

>>47255386
but then that's just 'bullshit in principle', because of the lore.
I'm not objecting to the idea of bypassing voidshields being considered bullshit in principle.
I'm just saying, if you're going to open up that door at all, the example given would be about the right size for that door.

>>47255422
Look up assault marines.

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>>47255430
>respected GW developer
>respected
>GW

>>47255422
It should have some asterisks indicating that only the sarge gets the pistol.

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>>47255356
Duncan

>>47255430
>respected GW developer
Epic.

>>47255356
Yes. Tim Nice But Dim.

>>47255336
He was joking stop being autistic.

>and Orks are one of the enemies Tau have the hardest time dealing with

Bullshit.

The Tau have had many great victories over the Orks and by the time of the TSE, the Tau had pacified the Orks nearby their space.

>>47255464
>mfw my name is Duncan

Shame I'm not THE Duncan.

>>47255113
I'd love it if that victory was the result of a *Reality Ensues* moment.

Despite their superior numbers, the guard and mechanicus regiments were slowly being pushed back by Tau forces and the superior firepower deployed by their mechsuits. Then, a mere dozen kilometers from the Guard landing zone, the Tau advance began to falter. Though the average Guardsman would take it as the emperor's miracles and the techpriests the will of the ommnisiah, the Tau knew the real cause: They had marched for too long and too hard and the fifty or so servomoters in each of their battlesuits legs had finally borken under the strain of constantly oscillating to hold 10-50 ton machines in an upright position while resisting the recoil of heavy railguns.

The Tau commander could only watch in horror as Imperial armor and mechanized regiments flanked through the nearby bogs, where the battlesuits could not go because their tiny feet concentrated too much weight on the mud and caused them to sink.

And the Tau knew, right then, whose fault it was that they were about to be surrounded and destroyed: Those fucking Earth Casts had watched too much anime and thought overly complicated legs were a better idea than simple, easily repaired, weight distributing treads. Fuck. The Earth. Cast.


But I kid. I'm mildly interested to see what weird formations come out of this next IA.

>it's a people argue with Carnac and his headcanon episode

God dammit, on every channel!

>>47255252
Taros was the Imperium trying to ramp up production on a resource world to feed a forge world so that shit could get made for the Eye of Terror/Cadia thing.

A low level clerk went to check on shit, said, "Hey, something's not right." Meanwhile anti-pirate actions determined that Taros was feeding extra resources to the Tau.

Imperium was like, "Well fuck that, we want that shit for our guns." Sent a single group of space marines to kick the shit out of the governor, and they found out, "Oh, hey. The Tau actually own this world, now," and got their teeth kicked in over the course of three days. A year later, the Imperium tries to take the planet back.

That's not hijacking resources for ego, that's husbanding resources.

Taros was 100% a logistics campaign. Logistics launched the campaign, and when Tau attacked supply lines, logistics ended the campaign. They even went into some logistical details regarding the evacuation.

>>47255383

A galaxy spanning Empire of a million worlds and quintillions of people sends a mailed fist to crush a young space faring species with a number of worlds barely out of double digits and is massacred, utterly destroyed, smashed into splinters, annihilated... The aliens do not even notice the fight and continue to dominate the galaxy.

fucking pathetic

>>47255422

You have both a Bolter and a Pistol.
The Bolter is your primary weapon and the one you'll use most. However, firing the Bolter means you cannot charge in the same turn.
That's why you also have a Pistol, which is used as a sidearm for when you want to charge into combat after shooting. As a gun it is weaker, but still allows you to make a potentially winning combat.

So you have both a Bolter and a Bolt Pistol, plus 2 types of grenades.
Because Marines are elites and well-equipped.

>>47255479

>the Tau had pacified the Orks nearby their space

Of course they did, it helps sell models to Taubois who laps this shit up

>>47255517
>young space faring species with a number of worlds barely out of double digits

They have what, a few dozen septs now? It's probably a few hundred worlds.

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>>47255469
>>47255457
Name one thing you dislike about this gentleman or his work.

>>47255411
Yeah, stereotypes exist because confirmation bias is a flawed way of collecting objective or empirical data. stereotypes persists because butthurt little marinefags are the worst losers in the hobby.

>>47255113
>>47255311
>>47255168
I'd settle for one instance of the Imperium picking a Tau Sept and just bombing it back to the stone age.

Doesn't even have to be a big one really...
Just enough of an example to show that the Imperium can take off the kid gloves when it wants to.

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>>47255500
You speak the truth brother, thats how the Emperor won the campaign over a Tracius XI, not by a miracle but the failings of xenos.

The moral of the story is: Fuck xenos.

>>47255517
First of all, it took years of planning and the lives of billions of Tau to defeat the crusade.

Second, the Tau empire is 100+ worlds.

>>47255547

Spotted the Riptide Cadre WAACfag Tauboi :^)

>>47255542
He can't play orcs n gobbos for shit according to that WD. Seems like a cool guy and has a fantastic looking army though.

>>47255564
>lives of billions of Tau

[citation needed]

>>47255542
He's American.

>>47255575
I only bring out the tides for Codex Space Marines.

Barring the RG players who are actually quite decent fellows.

>>47255593
Which Crusade? The first Warzone: Damocles book ends with announcing how victorious the Tau were and it says something like "Yet those who knew better realised the propaganda covered a death toll in the billions".

>>47255593
Hyperbole on my part. The Kauyon book has the Tau bodycount in the millions.

The 6th ED codex says that the TSE forces has billions of Tau and alien allies. So It noy be so hyperbolic.

>>47255556
That'd be nice.

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I cannot find words to express my loathing for this model. Not because it's bad, but rather because it's good, but of a utterly retarded scale. There is no good reason to make a Warhound-sized Knight, that defeats the whole point of having a Knight in the first place. And it will look fucking awful next to the normal Knights of a household force. The gangly Cerasus-pattern already looks sorta awkward, but this is just out of control.

>>47255621
>>47255638
Numbers are just numbers to GW.

>>47255556
that would require GW acknowledging that the ground armies are pretty much pointless in any battle between space fairing races, as you can just orbital strike any enemy hardpoint into submission.

Basically make most ground combat pointless, outside of infestation type races (nids and orks), which even then can't develop any sort of strong points and would be more like guerilla warfair, and warp bs lightning raids.

In other words titans are pointless. But 40k is space fantasy and focussed on ground battles. So if you want an Imperium victory, it will be a ground victory.

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>>47255593

>>47255383

And then BOOM. Spehss fire :^)

>>47255564

and yet with a death toll in the billions and having to dedicate your entire species to not being genocide.... you don't even notice... or flinch

Your armies annihilate dug in fortress worlds with entrenched Guard legions and multiple Astartes companies in a few scant hours.

In 40k Powerlevels are off the chart, out of this world. Tau powerlevels are no longer in this material plane they have transcended into another dimension. They own 40k, they won the game, nothing can stop them.

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Look at these sweet 40K Ork assault units spotted at the Fest today!

Just kidding.

>>47255664
Exactly, but that wasn't what you said. You asked for a citation mentioning billions, so we did. Also the number thing only applied to the question of "how many Eldar are there?" and they said it isn't about numbers more than the fact they're dying.

Either way. The bit also said how if the Imperium kept it up, it would wipe out the Tau.

>>47255692
your hateboner is showing.

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>>47255659
I quite like the lanky knights, but that thing is just stupid.

>>47255705
Neat Blood Bowl units desu.

>>47255674

Why even write this? Doesn't the Tau timeline on the final stage have Shadowsun sweeping across the galaxy?

>>47255705
You joke, but those would make for some amazing 'ard boyz or nobz.

>>47255736
Grammduurk

>>47255716
I love it. It's better than the original mould, which made it look like a fucking bug. I want one, but it won't be for 40k.

>>47253869
>>47253970
>>47255129
>>47255143
Remember when Tau weren't "Battletech the faction"?

>>47255711
It applies to everything because GW cannot into scale at all. Marines die by the hundreds, that's a chapter on its knees right there but they'll carry on fine, because there just needed to be X amount dead that time to make the battle sound intense. It's futile trying to put a meaning behind any numbers GW puts out because they don't mean anything to GW.

>>47255692
You do know that the Tau are testtube babies. Before it was a mystery how the Tau recovered swiftly from having been mauled by the Imperium in the first Damocles crusade and by Goegon. Now we know that they grow their children by the hundreds in baby factories like the Dark Eldar.

>>47255674
If those are acceptable losses of the causality-conciousness Tau, what the heck are the losses of the Imperials in that war then?

>>47255168
>mont'ka
>we weren't even trying!
jesus christ anon us IG fans have done nothing but spread our asscheeks for the tau wherever they show up
>tfw that 10 000 year old baneblade that crusaded alongside the emperor got blown up

>>47255716
Oh, totally, the Cerastus pattern is great, the weird proportions are part of the charm and I in fact own Lancer, Castigator and Acheron, but that Porphyrion is absurd. Scaled 30% down I could maybe see it. It'd still be taller than a Cerastus, but it wouldn't be as retarded.
Maybe the Warhound desn't sell anymore or something...

>>47255773

The last book confirmed that didn't they? Tau Vat grown clones?

I didn't know the Dark Eldar did that however

>>47255773
according to shit black library authors who write space marines as frat bros instead of operator monks who kick trains into the air, yes, tau are clone tubebabies.

>>47255736
No. The final stage (of Warzone Damocles) has space set on fire, splitting up the Farsight Enclaves and Tau Empire. Meaning that, in order for the Tau to get across the Gulf, they have to invent a proper Warp drive OR spend decades of extra travel bypassing it.

It's obviously setting up the Farsight and Shadowsun stop being tsundre for each other and have space babies together like the anime characters they're based on. Plus to set up Farsight giving into the Daemon Sword and becoming the monster thing and his love for Shadowsun saving him or some shit.

Either way. If we go on what the old info said on what was heading to Damocles, the stuff they sent to fight the Tau on Prefectia wasn't even 10%. The 2nd book specifically mentioned the General had additional forces to call upon, but in doing so, would sign his own death warrant by requiring them. He then failed with the IG, the 1 Ad Mech Ark and the 2 Space Marine elements.

He didn't use the other 100's of Imperial Guard companies and their armour, the other Space Marines (I think the old fluff said 6 other Chapters were heading there, but that might have been before the recall from Dante), the several full SoB Orders, the other 3 Ad Mech Arks and the elements from 3 Titan Legions, including a full one.

This is what's being covered in IA14. The Ad Mech + Titan Legions.

Which means...

Well.. Let us not hope for Catachan and the girl based army being updated via a Warzone.....

>>47255821
>I didn't know the Dark Eldar did that however
Wat? and no they're not clones, clones r bad in 40k.

>>47255821
Test-tube babies =/= clones.

Though, the Tau were shown to also clone but only for scientific research.

>>47255761
So much wasted potential.

I'd have preferred them as the grand alien alliance faction.

>>47255770
True enough anon, but I think it means more this time around, or at least till the next retcon. In 2008 they did the Invasion of Baal and Blood Angels rushed Space Marine initiates, but Fabius Bile corrupted them so they had to fight them and loads died. Dante then went "lol that was silly, let's totally not try a gain, this is a sign!". Yet we're back to square one; Dante recalling the BA Successors (how many are there? I swear BA had the 2nd most successors...)

>>47255826
Oh shit, have fun arguing with Carnac for that comment.

>>47255826
The novel was written by Phi Kelly who is a GW studio designer who wrote the Farsight Ensclave supp and pretty much all the Tau modern fluff.

>clone tubebabies.

Do you know what testtube babies mean?

You take eggs from the mother put them in a tube and then grab a father and squeeze his semen into the test-tube. Then wait until a baby is formed.

That is not cloning.

>>47255659

Well to be fair, they never set a standard size for a Knight other than they're usually smaller than a Titan proper, which the monstrosity in the image is, if albeit barely.

>>47255821
>last book

Which one?

>>47255847
Rumours have long suggested more allies will be available for them. Either way, they've had suits for fucking ages. It's not a surprise they have more suits. I mean, it's OK for Imperials, Orks, Eldar and Chaos to have big Knight Titans equivalents, but it isn't for Tau? It's OK for Orks, Eldar, Chaos and Imperials to have Titan equivalents, but it isn't for Tau?

>>47255826
See >>47255890 I told you he'd do it. You brought this on yourself, anon.

>>47255666
Alright Satan,
If we're gonna operate on that logic then pick one of the following:
>Assassinorum fucks over a Sept's Atmo-unit wiping out the planet's population and poisoning it's infrastructure
>The DA wipe the population and capture the leaders of a smaller Sept following rumors of the Fallen currying favors with them
>The Inquisition (in concert with the Ad-Mech) harry one of the outer Septs wiping out their kroot and deliver captured genestealers to lure a hivefleet there

Call it "Operation Suckerpunch"

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6 months and still no new codex release

Big changes are coming to 40k and I dont like it one bit.

>>47255901
Suits is fine, but by now there's more suit variants than marine chapters.

>>47255901

It's the book where it's confirmed that the second a Tau performs a single action outside of their caste they are instantly and publicly executed.

It also has a Tau civilian convincing a Space Marine not to kill her "lol I'm only a civvy" before Sicarius literally stamps on her chest

>>47255915
I cannot believe that there are people too stupid to understand the difference between test-tube babies and cloning.

I think you guys might call normal reproduction cloning as well.

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>>47255890
I know Phil Kelly has been ruining Tau fluff with his derpshit since 6th.

Saying his name doesn't make him not-shit.
Blades of Damocles was shit. People flipped their fucking shit for like a 100 posts in another thread over pic.

Phil Kelly needs to stop writing Tau. Everyone would be happier, especially Taufags who hate the direction Kelly is going.

>>47255207

>one of the orks best models was discontinued

Which one?

>>47255960
The book had both clones and vat babies.

>>47255953
>>47255901
He means "Blades of Damocles" by Phil Kelly who is now forced with a gun to his head to write Tau lore despite the fact that he hates it and it bloody shows in his writing.

>>47255736
At least in the codex their intrusion "deeper into the Imperium" amounts to taking a few worlds just beyond the Damocles Gulf. Which is barely a papercut in the bloated carcass of the Imperium.

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>>47255930

But anon, there is a public beta of the next edition of 40k available to play right now.

>>47255983
You

see

>>47255846

I mentioned the clones already and what they are used for.

>>47254151
>Champion as HQ for maximum keks against Tyranids
the instant death rule only applies to challenges, can you challenge tyranid monstrous creatures? can you challenge all monstrous/gargantuan creatures for that matter?

>>47255967
jesus christ
he out mary sued the posterboys

>>47255925
those would all be cool. I don't object to there being a victory against the Tau at all.
Just insist that people realize that 'nuke it all from space' will only ever be used to represent losing a world and not letting the enemy have it, because otherwise you start to show how silly all the ground wars of 40k are.

>>47255967
You see >>47255984

I agree with you, anon. I am not saying that his work isn't shit. I am just saying that the current guy in charge of Tau lore is the guy who wrote it.

>>47255383
>fuck huge

The armada blocked all reinforcement. Re-read Kauyon, Carnac. The guy was only allowed to use the Imperial Guard. He wasn't allowed to use the SoB orders, all the Space Marine Chapters (even the WS and RG, which were the original governor response force, didn't follow his orders), the several Ad Mech Arks (again, the elements of the Stygies VIII ark left during a crucial battle and only returned to capture a Stormsurge) and the Knight Titans (which were not deployed till the final battle and fled due to mass Stormsurges) of one House. That's not mentioning the 3 or so Titan Legions that they didn't use.

That is what IA14 is about.

>>47255960

The Tau "Dolly the sheep" their entire race, don't be butthurt that your faction are mindless clones :(

Us Death Korps players love it 2bh

>>47255847
>I'd have preferred them as the grand alien alliance faction.
Like the Council in Mass Effect, but more grimdark or less...?

Quick question for the genestealer cults. Does the patriarch get the extra attack for having both rending claws and scything talons per normal?

>>47255930
>/tg/ before this
>OMG A NEW CODEX ALREADY? FUCKING JEW DOUBLEJEWS BEING JEWS FUCKING JEWS!

>/tg/ now
>OMG I HATE THE DIRECTION JEW DOUBLEJEWS IS GOING! FUCKING JEWS!

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>>47255992
>tfw Hybrids are better assault troops than Genestealers

>>47256038
>Re-read Kauyon.

You mean Mont'ka

It's not the Tau fault that the Imperials screwed themselves.

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>>47256072

At half the cost. Don't forget half the cost.

>>47256041
0/10

That was embarrassing.

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>>47256049
>Does the patriarch get the extra attack for having both rending claws and scything talons per normal?
Nope, because it doesn't have two sets of CC weapons

>>47256060
> one person wants a book
> /tg/ is bipolar

Solid reasoning here, lad

>>47256093
>Telepathy
>BS 0
Wait, what?

>>47256049

No, because he doesn't have "rending claws and scything talons"

He has "Patriarchs claws"

>>47256082
No, but it's hardly them "taking off their gloves" when they decide not to throw everything at it.

GW know there is no way for them to justify a loss for Imperials if they go all out, so they keep dues ex machina'ing them.

>>47256091

Not as embarrassing as being upset your faction are all clones.

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>>47256060
>GW releases Stronger 7th ed codexes for all the armies that got really good 6th edition updates
>People get mad

>Gw stops putting out codexes, leaving all the shit armies in the dust
>People get mad

No shit people get mad after getting shit on over and over and GW does all the wrong things every single time

>>47256112
>Mind bullets, but you're still a bad shot

>>47256112

Auto hit , lad.

>>47256112
Genestealers, 'nuff said

So I played a game for the first time in ages today at my local GW (Leeds, just moved from London), and I noticed something: everyone there thought their list was better than it actually was.
A guy had a 1500 points list of:
Punchy knight + other knight
3 minimum tac squad,
2 vindicare assassins
Captain lad with power fist
Vindicator

He claimed he spent ages thinking of this list and that it was unbeatable.
Why does this happen?
Does a smaller player base lead to worse armies?

>>47255362
He's clearly upset with his comrade for aiming his weapon at the POW in such an aggressive manner. The Eldar has surrendered and is defenseless, and he sees no need to continue attempting to intimidate a defenseless woman.
Likewise, the soldier removing his belt has a somewhat upset look on his face due to the indignity of having to hitch his pants up on the ride back to base, but has ultimately decided he can bear it to ensure the Eldar retains her dignity.
The commander with the boltgun has a glazed look in his eye, as he contemplates how even this basic act of kindness is meaningless in the face of endless conflict, and secretly yearns for the simple days of his youth on a farm back home, a youth that is now forever lost to him.
Truly, this is a deep and nuanced look at the price of war, and yet also at the small mercies and honorable deeds that exist even between the bitterest of foes.

>>47255207
It's because that shit doesn't SELL.
Most serious Ork players just convert their own awesome vehicles right?
Well that's good and they often look awesome, but it gives Forge world no cash.
Which material would you rather convert with? GW plastics and plasticard or expensive as fuck, poisonous FW resin?
I fucking guarantee they were barely pushing FW Ork products. If they were, it would still be here

>>47256218
You must really be bored.

>>47256286
Why would it sell if there are no rules for most of it, and what rules there are are downright bad.

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>>47256028
I'm less bugged by "nuke it from orbit" because just about every faction has enough space capacity to contest it and most solutions that bypass that fact are rare enough not to be overused.

>>47256038
>Stygies VIII
Of course it was them.

>>47255666
>that would require GW acknowledging that the ground armies are pretty much pointless in any battle between space fairing races
It's not, for the same reason that aircraft, cruise missiles, and drone strikes haven't replaced infantry in the current era. You still need boots on the ground to occupy an area. However, Titans are pretty retarded because they fill the same role as aircraft but they're orders of magnitude easier to shoot down and are more limited in where they can go and how quickly they can get there.

In an actual intergalactic war, you would see mainly mechanized infantry (probably deployed by helicopter equivalents, maybe airdropped in IFVs or light vehicles) with aircraft and orbital support.

Space Marines and IG troopers make sense, land speeders and rhinos make sense, all of the aircraft make sense, maybe fire support dreadnoughts like the Deredeo make sense, but anything the size of a Land Raider or Leman Russ or larger is fucking retarded. Knight Titans are double retarded, and Warhound and battle Titans are triple retarded, and the Emperor Titan is too retarded for words.

>>47256331
90% of the Ork Codex is shit. They still sell models, if only because some dudes love making crazy looking armies.
FW can't even bank on sales for conversion bits.

>>47255901
Don't tau think Titans are dumb

my Orky brethren I have a cunning plan for 1700 point games
with no model restrictions we bring 17 deff dreads and dive each 2 DCCW so that's 136 S10 unweildly melle hits and on the charge it's
153 of these attacks

>>47256596
They did, which makes the new giant robots even dumber

What would be the reaction from you lot if there was a Tau/SoB campaign and it resulted in mutual destruction?

>>47253895
Seconded. This is next level.

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Has anyone been to a Tank Shock event yet?

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>Started a new game in DoW2
>I like a davian thule setup is a ranged dreadnought
>At the end of the have not got one Assault Cannon to drop

>>47256637
Pleased that the SoB were getting a rules update.

SoB players are used to watching the girls get snuffed. If we manage a victory against xenos in the act, we're ahead of the curve.

>>47256700
One SoB is half dead so it doesn't count as full snuffed.

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>>47256664
>Going to an event that actively encourages taking Leman Russ Tanks

My... my boyz... no PLEASE NOT AGAIN

>>47256637
As in all the people involved in the battle die? Or the entirety of the Sisters of Battle go to town space and both aides utterly annihilate each other?

>>47256596

They reversed that stance when they realized their old ways of confronting Titans weren't working as effectively as they would have liked.

>>47256717
We need a 40k version of this. Maybe with an Ork recalling his boyz getting shredded by Wriaths and Riptides.
>>47256731
Everyone in the fight dies.

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>>47255222
epic meme, i rate it 10/10 meme points

>>47256754
I'd be all over that. Shows that Sisters can get stuff done and shows that Tau can have an actual loss.

>>47256612
Not that it matters much, but deff dreads are initiative 2. They tear up terminator squads thanks to that but not much else.

>>47256717
>why do my footslogging unprotected boyz keep dying?
I am convinced that half of ork players are just retarded

>>47256812
>half

>>47256812
There's not one reliable way to protect infantry that want to get into close combat in that codex. I'm sure all ork players understand that boyz are pish thanks to that, it just takes them a few games of the green men being slaughtered to get wise.

>>47256812
No friendo, I do not field foot slogging boyz, it would seem however that when my friend uses is Vets in Chimeras with flamers and heavy flamers on my Battlewagons they tend to die even faster thanks to the great rule that is NoEscape.

But keep on pretending you know what you're talking about

>>47256812

To be honest, you're not doing better by taking a Transport a lot of the time as the most basic Ork one is incredibly easy to destroy and you could still lose near about the entire squad in one round by the time an Explodes Result and Mob Rule has been resolved.

>>47256812
The problem is the boyz don't have any particularly good ways of being carted around considering the frailty of trucks and their explosions. Also the transport cap limits one of the only strengths of the boys: numbers.

>what I'd give for large capacity transport or an orky metal bawks

>>47256612
>cunning plan

As cunning as a fox who's just been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford University?

>>47256922

>large capacity transport

Well those exist, but unfortunately they're limited to Super-Heavy vehicles like the Battle Wagon (can carry up to 30, but this number goes down the more Big Guns you add) and the Stompa (overpriced for a transport in terms of points and

>>47256922
Couldn't you get a Hard case on a Trukk for something akin to a Rhino?

>>47256958

You'd think so wouldn't you.

>>47256958
Then you'd be paying points to remove the main reason you use trukks in the first place without making it that much safer.

>>47256865
Then dont fucking drive your battlewagons up to the chimeras you spoon, theyre armour 11 or 12 , just pop them with lootas or tankbustas and shoot the flamers. Just because you get 3-4 attacks on the charge doesnt mean you always have to assault.
Unless you play on a 2x2 board or something.
>>47256922
I sacrifice heavy support for 2 battlewagons, it works out. Tankbustas/buggies/jets and a squad of loota for anti tank do well for me. SAG as well,but thats for fun.

>>47256984
Wait, can you seriously not even get that on Trukks?

>>47257053
To be honest if your opponent wastes ap 2 or 1 shooting on av 10 vehicles hes just doing you a favor. Besides, getting blown up on 4's is FUN*

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>Buy primarch model
>Finish it except for the head
>Fuck it up and it looks awful
>Strip and try again
>Fuck it up in a different way and it looks even worse
>Think im a decent painted but this head looks like it was done by a 4 year old

Ive stripped the head over 15 times and I fuck up every single time. I've painted plenty of other faces and they turn out fine. I'm fucking pulling my hair out.

>>47256953

I think you mean the Battle Fortress. Which FW has discontinued. Despite it being in one of their dioramas.

>>47257053

Nope, but you can buy a Stikkbomb Chucka for 5 points which makes any unit that disembarks and charges from it that turn gain Assault Grenades! Which benefits exactly one unit in the codex! Gretchin!

>>47257100
>leave head off
>call it the unknown primarch

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>>47257139
>gretchin will never take up half capacity in transports
>you will never spit 20 gretchin and 2 runtherders out of a trukk at breakneck Initiative 2
Why even live?

>>47257100

Put a helmet on there, lad.

I've yet to see a Primarch head that doesn't look goofy as fuck.

Doubles tournament in a month. Friend is bringing Farsight Enclaves with two Riptides. I'm considering adding one if the following.

1x Imperial Knight Crusader with Battle Cannon + 1 of each Assassin
OR
7x Assassins, all twice except the Culexus

Wanting to try out the assassins in a fun setting, yet I'm not sure if they would be able to pull their weight as half the army. The Knight would bring some heavy on table.

Optional is also a Knight with a bike based Librarius Conclave or two. Specifically thinking of small armies because I want to build and paint it all.

Any advice?

>>47257100
>>47257204
Me and my mate are confused as fuck why they don't sell alt heads for the Primarchs which are helmets.

>>47257079

>To be honest if your opponent wastes ap 2 or 1 shooting on av 10 vehicles hes just doing you a favor

Yeah but if your army has a lot of those it ends to get problematic.

>>47257266
If you're playing Eldar or SM, then several Culexus will be great to fuck over the inevitable Lib Conclave or Seer Council.

>>47257266
>Any advice?
Use IG :^)

>>47257100

Step 1. Pick your skin color. Paint it on there.
Step 2. Use a skin wash or brown wash.
Step 3. Paint skin color again, leaving wash in cracks.
Step 4. Use a slightly lighter skin color (or your original one with white mixed in) and paint it on the forehead brow, nose, and cheeks.
Step 5. Optional, wash the face again.
Step 6. If you did Step 5, re-do step 4.

Super easy and good looking faces. They don't have eyes you can fuck up on but the wash makes it look like they are squinting into the distance.

>>47257325
3 railgun shots for example.
Better to lose 75 points of warbuggys then 200-300 points of battlewagons in a turn 2bh

>>47257304

They're planning on doing a Primarch helmet accessory range but haven't yet.

>>47257357
They are? Neat.

>want to finish up main army
>notice all these other amazing models from different factions

>>47257357
The very first one better be Fulgrim

They fucking owe us

>>47257304
>>47257376
>>47257357

How much of a glorious faggot will the eventual Magnus the Red one look like?

>>47257352

>warbuggys

Assuming that slot isn't taken up by Bikes which seem to be more popular than the buggies.

>>47257373
Tell me about it. It feels like whenever I'm almost done building a force I can't help but start a new one.

Is the White Dwarf collection ever going to be updated? It's 2 years behind.

>>47257399

I'll laugh if regular Magnus is just his bare head and his helmet is just his head with a headdress but his bare face still visible.

>>47257399
As long as they make him angry-looking he can be as gay as he wants honestly

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>>47257648
>>47257502
>>47257399

He needs to look like this desu...

Sup nigs

Is Slanneshi Space Marines a good idea?

If so, should I stock up on the upgrade kits now, considering Troop Choice Chaos Marines appear to be discontinued?

>>47256016

What's Mary sue here? A battle suit killed a marine? Or was it just that the Tau got a clean win over the John Cena of the setting?

>>47257678
WE

>>47254978
That's a whole lot of flamers.

How much would it cost to make this in $?

>>47255967
I don't see what is wrong with this picture. It shows that Farsight has a sense of honour and has learnt that targeting the Space Marines first, destroying them as completely as possible so they can't be collected. It also shows that the Space Marines can be manipulated with their idea of honour and honouring the dead. Which they ultimately are in this fight.

>>47257708
Slaanesh is one of the better mono-god options for CSM.

Don't bother stockpiling upgrade kits. It'd be easier to do your own conversions.

>>47257678
>magnus looking like some native american that got unlimited power
gotta say that's pretty cool

>>47257406
>more anti infantry in an army that has too much anti infrantry

>>47257678
Not angry enough, desu

>>47257731
WUZ

>>47257827
WIZARDS

>>47257827
PRIMARCHS

I was having a good time last week because I beat my regular opponents, Blood Angels and Necrons.

Blood Angels just came over with two of those noble knight thingies. Still building them but he intends to field them.

How do I deal with this? I took out the necron obelisk by spamming zoanthropes and distraction carnifexes, will that work for the knights?

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>>47256093
> aliens
> pants?

>>47257904
Who are you playing as? Blood Angels are the weakest Marine dex. I could understand why he might take two. But, if it's 2500 points, that's OK.

>>47257935
>image.jpg

Dumb phoneposter.

>>47257784

Well they tend to deliver more than buggies do and are harder to destroy.

>>47256737
They are actually more effective in game then using your own titan, the game designers just realized that the people who buy Tau love mecha and it was stupid to deny it to them.

>>47256596
>>47256625
>>47257984
The Tau struggled with Tiger sharks when Imperium started massing AA around the Titans. So they created a suit to deal with it.

Forge World also said a super heavy tank will be made for Tau, you guys gonna bitch about that too?

reminder to lay down the funk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNK5-uE5JFg

>>47258018
Right, because the clear solution to that problem was to make a platform that would let the Titan shoot your anti-titan, rather than just stick void shields on your fliers. Or fire long range missiles from single use launchers miles away. It is a marketing ploy.

Yes, because it is out of character and dumb. No different then if they gave Necron's titans and super low points cost cultist style troops because they would make a bunch of money off of them.

>>47258075
>implying a massive centipede Titan wouldn't be amazing

>>47258075
>Tau
>void shields

And just like that, we're done here. That was quick. Phew. I thought I might have to actually have a discussion with somebody.

>>47258075
>Yes, because it is out of character and dumb

So, what you're saying is, the creators of a setting cannot do what they want if it goes against your headcanon? Fuck. Guess you're a time traveller from before 4th.

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>>47257100
Please kill me

>>47258143
You mean when it goes against their own established canon in order to sell more models?

And let us be clear here, they can do whatever the fuck they want. They own the company, they have all of the power. What I'm saying is that it is very obviously a marketing ploy and erases the distinguishing features between different groups.

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>>47258179
>>47257100

>>47257946
Tyranids, hence the zoanthrope and carnifexes. We've only played up to 2000 pts before. The necron player loves to cheeselist, which prompted the BA to get his own.

Tyranids don't have anything like that outside of forgeworld to my knowledge.

Just realized that in a CAD I could take about 12+ Leman Russes if I took Pask. Delicious.

>>47258202
Ah yes, Horus with his mighty power maul Pubebreaker

It wouldnt be so bad if he didnt highlight everything with yellow for some reason

>>47258191
But are the Tau not the "constantly updating and creating new weapons/vehicles/units in order to combat threats they are ineffective against"?

So, Breacher Teams are "dumb marketing ploy" because, well, they're close range units! And as we all know, Tau are 100% range only! That's totally against Tau tactics so it's a marketing ploy to sell more models!

Same with the Ghostkeel! I mean, it's not like the XV25 struggled to even dent heavy armour and that's why the Tau created a more powerful suit. It too is also close range, so totally shit and against their tactics. Just like the XV25 is.

>>47258219
Forgeworld has fuck all for nids man, this idea that forgeworld stuff is good because it's expensive is so strange. Malanthropes are the only competitive option forgeworld brings to the table for nids.

Playing a melee army against a ranged army is not fun

Having to walk across the map to the corner you dug yourself into while slowly getting whittled down on the way is not fun

If I get to you and you fold like a wet paper towel under my dedicated melee units, that is not fun either.

>>47258228
Made me chuckle. It is a good reason why you don't fucking paint in a fucking jumper/sweater.

>>47258219
Sorry. I only read the first two lines and for some reason thought I read it all when I replied.

The BA will really struggle without allies. Even with x3 DC's with Astorath.

I think you could do well with the Shield of Baal formations for your Nids. Venomthropes and such.

>>47258228

Groinsmasher
Crotchgrinder
Weinerbane
Clam Slammer

>>47257904
Knights aren't that good. I don't know nids very well, but whatever you use to handle land raiders will work just as well against Knights.

>>47258282
So I presume my current strategy is all I can do to get rid of superheavies? To kill the necron obelisk, I charged my swarmlord right at it across open ground while moving my zoanthropes for shots. He wasted all his dakka on the swarmlord while the 'thropes pinged it to death.

I guess I just need more zoanthropes then. Little fuckers have saved my bacon more times than I care to count.

>>47258286

The only way to play a melee foot army well (e.g. not flying around on faggot Thunderwolves or Necron Wraiths or stomping around with a Knight) is with tons and LoS blocking terrain and psykers to either protect you or warp you around with gate or bodyswap or let you surf mountains towards the enemy.

>>47258282
Who cares when the Dimachaeron is an amazing model? I can't remember it's stats, but it's a sexy model!

>>47258308
>I don't know nids very well

Fucking obviously

A knight could absolutely destroy a carnifex or two before they even swing

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>>47258286
>this post
>4 years after the release of 6th ed

>>47258308
/tg/ told me Knights are OP and thus are bad. Why are you lying on the internet anon? Are you going against dozens of other anons who told nothing but the truth?