WHQ: The Silver Tower Moon Man Edition

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Limited edition Launch Pack Contents.

>>47232000
>literally Shilling general

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>>47232000
>highly detailed plastic miniatures
>Age of Sigmar

>>47232119

The text is from an announcement from GW to retailers. I thought anons who play traditional games would be interested primarily in being informed about the exclusive launch packs.

I use to play Warhammer Quest quite often growing up in the 1990s and I am excited about this release though not thrilled about the Age of Sigmar setting.

>>47232198
Ignore the trolls and shitposters, they just live for the (you).

>>47232198
So how about to post in AoS thread?
>I use to play Warhammer Quest quite often growing up in the 1990s and I am excited about this release though not thrilled about the Age of Sigmar setting.
Nice try shill but you are lying, people who really play traditional games prefer Dexcent, not poor designed AoS board game.

>>47232207
It's board named /tg/, not /wh/.

>>47232219
That poor English...
Slav, is that you?

>>47232000
Oh cool this might be fun.
>based on Age of Sigmar
Never mind.

>>47232219
>prefer Descent

Have they told us the MSRP yet? I have ten bucks set on 120+ USD.

>>47232274

Murica MSRP is $150 USD. The box is heavy the cheapest I have been able to find it so far is $135 shipping included from www.docsgamesstore.com but they don't have the launch packs.

I am debating paying full retail at the local GW store and selling the exclusives on ebay.

>>47232219
So how about to post in AoS thread?

Because this is a separate distinct game set in the same universe.

>Because this is a separate distinct game set in the same universe.
So? We didn't have Necromunda thread outside 40k general.

>>47232303
>I am debating paying full retail at the local GW store
Yup. Definitely not a shill.

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>>47232346

So? We are having one now.

>>47232361
Nope, it's literally dead thread.

>>47232348

You fucking retard. If there was a FLGS with the exclusives I would go there. There isn't. 1 is nearly out of business and the other won't order enough to qualify for the exclusives. If I see the exclusives I can off set the full MSRP shit that GW offers and still be cheaper then internet sales. If you can find it cheaper please post. Otherwise fuck off.

>>47232379
>I am not shilling, I just want to spam how it's cool to pay full price for GW game with bad models and poor game-design.

I never played Warhammer Quest. How does this game work? Like the TT but on small scale?

>>47232421
Like Descent, but worse

>>47232450
I didn't play Descent either. Never even heard of it. Total newbie here.

>>47232472
Like Dungeon Crawl

>>47232230
Stop /wh/ining then

>>47232230
It might aswell be.

>>47232450
Core version vs core version, you'd be right.
With expansions, the quality is more on the side of WHQ.

>>47232538
Because some shill say it?

>>47232570
No, because everything revolves around 40k anyways.

>>47232563
>Warhammer
>Better quality than FFG
Nope, the whole point of all those standalone games is "Warhammer".

>>47232576
You mean shitton unrelated with tabletop games threads about BL?

>>47232596
What does Boys Love have to do with this?

>statueshit
no

>>47232607
>What does Boys Love have to do with this?
Well all Warhammer settings is about this.

>>47232219
Wow, it's nice to know we have finally gotten around to elect an official that can speak for gamers everwhere! Because it just makes sense that every single gamer in the world shares the exact same sentiment as you.

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>>47232412

>>47232658

I'm going to have to call the operations center because on the spread sheet it's my day to shill GW products on 4chan.

>>47233149

The chair is against the wall. I say again the chair is against the wall. This is Agent Rogers ShillID: 2687339. You are not an authorized operator on this station. Confirm you wilco.

>>47232000
Why are we getting 8 familiar if the 4 distinct models have names?

>>47232255

I'm going to buy the specific minis I want from resellers who break up the box. Otherwise, not going to bother.

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>>47232000


From dakka

>"After taking a "heart-breaking" look of our demo copy and reading the rules, we have cut our order of WHQ by 70%. We advise caution in purchasing this product to ensure you know exactly what you are getting (or in this case, not getting). "

Myself I´m only interested in the Tzeentch minis so I dont give a fuck about the game.

>>47233256

I would like more info then that. If it is because it is similiar in name only to the orginal Warhammer Quest I could live with that if its still a fun game.

I like the concept of WHQ very much (big into Descent), but I think I'd rather just play the old one... :<

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>>47233302

I´m gonna guess it´s from some WHQ purist by the sound of it, but you never know.

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>>47232000
I would buy this just for the tzeentch beastmen, horrors and the big monsters. The heroes aren't bad either, honestly.

>>47233444
>half naked dark eldar is good
>black warpriest is good
>farseer is good
kek
Also, I always wonder why people wasn't able to paint their beastmen in same colour scheme before?

>>47233359

I have pieced together a copy for about $150 on eBay. Took me a few months and I have no box but it is complete. I was 15 when WHQ came out in 1994 and was already heavily into D&D, 40K and WFB. If I was calling the shots it would be true to the orginal and set in the Old World. But I'm not going to hate it if it's different game. As long as it's fun.

>>47233584
>bad rules = fun

>>47233547
You could have Tzeentch aligned beastmen before. 5th or 6th edition.

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>>47233547

I actually have a bluegrey Tzeentch themed beastmen army. I´m pretty excited that GW made some an actual Tzaangors, never thought I would see the day.

>>47233547
>I hate it because it has male characters that show skin and a black guy!

Kek indeed anon.

And obviously people can paint their beastmen any way they want, but furry goatman looks shitty in a parrot colour scheme compared to feathered birdman, duh.

>>47233665
>I´m pretty excited that GW made some an actual Tzaangors
Because you never knew that you could paint beastmen in blue colour scheme?

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>>47233547
>The diablo 2 paladin mini isn't awesome
>You can't just replace the stormcast and the gay dorf with a Brettonian knigga and a proper Slayer

Not going to lie I'm probably going to go on ebay and try to get 3 of the barbarian for a nice 4 man barb party because fuck magic

>>47233710
Jesus christ were you dropped on your head as a kid? They're bird beastmen!

Saying you can paint the regular beastmen blue is like saying you can paint bloodletters blue and pretend they're horrors. Obviously you can do that, but it looks lame compared to the real thing.

>>47233709
>I am love blacks sooooo much because I am progressive new-male
>compared to feathered birdman, duh.
Pshhh... it's the same bestigor you always can paint fur like fluff or feathers

>>47233719
>>The diablo 2 paladin mini isn't awesome
Nope.
>>You can't just replace the stormcast and the gay dorf with a Brettonian knigga and a proper Slayer
So? I will still have models from WoW.
>>47233732
>Obviously you can do that, but it looks lame compared to the real thing.
For kid who never heard about hobby and modelism.

>>47232000
does the limited edition stuff come out tomoz or next week cus I'm going war hammer fest and don't want to buy on ebay??

>>47232000

So is there any reason why I should get this over something like Descent ?

>>47234262
Stormcasts, new warpriest.

>>47233444
I need like 20 of these. How many come in the board game and will they be purchasable separate of the game?

>>47233607

I haven't seen the rules yet or a play through or even a review. Just lots of glamor shots of the components.

>>47233710

Yeah, and you can paint your high elves black and call them dark elves too. I hope you're trolling because otherwise you're one dumb fuck.

>>47234262

Better miniatures? Superior AoS IP?

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>>47234766

>Superior AoS IP?

Though you've got a point about the miniatures. If you like 'em, get 'em. I'm already spotting some I'll buy in bits off eBay for other purposes entirely.

>>47234749
>AoS is my first wargame, so I never try paint models better than in Citadel painting book

>>47232137
They are highly detailed, just terrible

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>>47236112

>>47233547
>black warpriest is good
>literally complaining about the paintscheme on a model as if you're forced to copy it
The tzeentch models are pretty sweet. I dig the cultists.

>>47236112

>Buying miniatures are for little kids, I sculpt everything from scratch.

Had a playthrough of the game - game is cool. Has a combination of several other boardgames i like.

The birdmen look dope.

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>>47239288
I was going to clean this up better but i figured that i already put more effort into it than who ever CAD sculpted the sigmarines in the first place

>>47239147
Any chance you've played Shadows of Brimstone? If so, think it's better or worse?

>>47233256
Link?

>>47239687

The sigmarine models don't snap my rectum as much as they do for some. They look like marines, that's fine. Marines look cool.

I think the gold/bronze colour scheme is kind of boring though. Painting them up in more classical greek statue marble with aged cracks wold be a neat interpretation of the eternal warrior vibe they go for.

>>47239687
There is nothing wrong with Stormcasts.

>>47241014
In of themselves no, in fantasy they not only don't fit the aesthetic but the lore is super shoehorned in and is so out there it tries to over shadow everything else because they're so awesome ecksdee

>>47241266
>in fantasy they not only don't fit the aesthetic

There is no Fantasy aesthetic. Each and every army has it's own look. Stormcasts have their own look.

>the lore

Has nothing to do with how they look.
Of course they received a push, they're a new army.

>>47241371
Hulking armored space men with huge space mariney pauldrons don't fit with the more or less old world look. As for the lore they completely shit all over the Empire of Man and basically have them play second fiddle because Sigmar deems it.

>>47241431
>Hulking armored space men with huge space mariney pauldrons don't fit with the more or less old world look.

And big aztec dinosaurs don't fit with the old world look.
And egyptian skeletons don't fit with the old world look.
And edgy elves coated with razors don't fit with the old world look.
And wildly colorful demons from beyond time and space don't fit the old world look.
And who looks more old world, crazy quilt knights or puffy pantaloon professional soldiers?

Everyone has their own aesthetic.

>As for the lore they completely shit all over the Empire

The Empire has been dead for thousands of years at this point. And again, the lore has no bearing on how they look.

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Thread has at least put me into a mood for getting a group together for some oWHQ with friends, run through the Vassal client. :3

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>>47241676
I expect one should be able to run shit freely, and freeform new modules just using the RNG dice in the client and book pdfs?

http://wquest.free.fr/

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Deathblow 1-3 pdf 7-zip 89 MB file:
http://www.mediafire.com/?kcz6v2ks0w3w18q

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>>47241799
White Dwarf and Citadel Journal articles can be found here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_Quest

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I'm seeing similarities, and I'm liking what I see.

>>47241014
their helmets are garbage
the sigmarunes on the parchment looks terrible

easy to fix, but problems nonetheless

New video explaining some of the rules:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRWutV-6FCA

Looks like you roll four dice, place them on the four squares on your character sheet, then spend them to activate different abilities. Basic attacks require 1+ ie. any die, but better abilities require you to spend a die with a higher number. When you take damage you place damage markers on the die squares, meaning you'll have fewer dice to choose from for your abilities.

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>>47233876

Limited edition stuff seems to be exclusive to preordering from stores. I imagine that ordering from them will also get you the Empire Wizard hero card GW is offering.

>>47234361

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of what is in the game makes it way to clampakcs and kits in either the same form or slightly different, probably won't be for a while though.

>>47241266
>>47241431

Fantasy doesn't matter because it's for all intents and purposes a separate universe.

GW went for them because despite /tg/ liking HFY and historicals, the Empire has simply shown itself to not be a good posterboy while Warriors of Chaos and Space Marines have.

>>47232119
>posts WH
>on the WH board
>shill
>literally shit: the post

Lurk moar n00b.

>>47242973
Barbarian on the bottom looks like he's wearing aviators.

On one hand, I grew up with Heroquest and Warhammer Quest and have a lot of nostalgia.
On the other, GW prices and AOS aesthetic are enough to turn me off just about anything. Hard choice.

I don't dare to preorder, since it's GW.
I'm gonna wait for the reviews and if it has enough randomly generated stuff which offers like unlimited replayability, im gonna go for it. I really like the minis.

>>47232000
>Packs of deluxe holographic hero character cards. Each hero character card pack also contain 4x limited edition hero character cards for additional heroes. These character cards are not in the game and cannot be found anywhere else!

Unless you are at my local GW store, where the manager has opened the card packs, and you can only get the extra characters by buying the AoS model that represents the hero.

So preordering the game doesn't get you the actual good bit of the preorder bonus...

>>47247527

Dungeon layout is randomly generated.

Monsters appear based on randomly generated tables.

>>47247527
Skills are and treasures are drawn from a random deck of cards.

Also random events and appearances of the 4 familiars can happen at the start of a new round (similiar to the old winds of magic roll)

>>47232119
>Posting for free
Literally why, presented by Wayland Games.

>>47247544
What in the fuck?

>>47248016

Yeah that would piss me off too dropping full MSRP + sales tax and some Jew GW manager wants to try to gouge me for more money to get the free promo cards

>>47232048

fucking triggered, I thought every store got enough of these to give to the first pre orderers, apparently its one per store and they get raffled.

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>>47241892
https://kat.cr/games-workshop-magazine-the-citadel-journal-collection-t9227812.html

Anyone got any idea if this is going to be more of an actual game as opposed to a starter set like betrayal at calth?

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>>47241799
>>47241892
>>47248353
>Warhammer Quest core material and expansion
https://kat.cr/warhammer-quest-t1118392.html
>Vassal client and WHQ plugin
https://sites.google.com/site/whqvassal/
>WHQ online resources
http://wquest.free.fr/

I don't think I've missed anything?

>>47248481

It's going to be very similar to the original quest.

expansions, additional characters etc

I just saw the gaming tiles...

fuck they look horrible. What a cluster fuck.

Bring back dungeons.

>>47232000
>44x individuals
>only lists 28

The fuck are the others meant to be, then?

>>47248908
Blue Horrors, Brimstone Horrors and mutant goblins.

>>47248908
6 new Warhammer Age of Sigmar Heros
Gaunt Summoner
8 Familiars
Ogroid Thaumaturge
2 Pink Horros
4 Blue Horros
4 pairs of Brimstoen Horros
8 Grot Scuglings
8 Kairic Acolytes
6 Tzaangors
2 Skaven Deathrunners

>>47248351

GW Store or independent retailer? What we are seeing in this thread is the stores are playing fuck fuck games rationing out the freebies.

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>>47248746
>Opinions on the internet
Yeah, but 100% this! Have some goddamn variety and at least the appearance of creating your own adventures in General Dungenon™ or different settings. 24/7/365 generic tzeentch hallways isn't exactly making me erect...

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Played a game of it in store this morning with two other people and I actually had great fun. One person played the GM, one played the barbarian who is actually a warrior a chaos and I played the mist weaver mage girl.

It's got some decent rules (that are somehow have more depth than regular AoS) while still being simple enough to remember. while it was challenging at times our two characters seemed to just steam roll all the enemies without much worry, even the gaunt summoner got trashed before he got to attack. That said we didn't play to the end and it wasn't the 'real' gaunt summoner.
Not sure if there is supposed to be a GM, monster roll on a "behaviour table" to decide what they do but someone still needs to decide where they move and who to attack if between two characters as well as roll dice for them and various events.

>>47249498
Thanks anon. Have you played the old Warhammer Quest? How do they compare?

>>47249498

Thanks for the info. I'd actually prefer to run it as a GM since my players are my kids and all under age 10.

Hopefully we can get more reviews of the good and bad.

>>47249498

Was this GW store? Cause if they are running demos I will go to that daemons nest of neckbeards and fan boys.

>>47249498
No gms are needed, the first player of each round controls all monsters (following randomized monster behavior) and breaks any ties. You could technically be a dick and fuck over your party.

>>47249523
I didn't but my friend who did said they were pretty similar.

>>47249553
It was, everyone was away at warhammer fest so we pretty much had the whole store to ourselves.

>>47249523
Different anon here. Some rules are different but there are definently nods to the old rules.

fuck it, preordered.

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>>47250615
God bless the patriot throwing themselves on a grenade for the rest of /tg/

Concerned about there being too few dungeon tiles for a truly epic dungeon crawl. Could use the tile pieces from my space hulk game to expand the tower. Then the game would have DOORS!!!

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>>47251445
N-no... doors... in the starter box?

>>47251650
Forgeworld will do them in resin. £20 for 4.

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>>47251781

Stone Skull Studios just had a successfull kickstarter for mini-wargaming furniture and accessories. The stuff should be available on their website sometime in the future.

http://www.stoneskullstudios.net/

And if you want to stick with the swirling portal motif.

http://awakenrealms.com/shop/painted-floating-crystals-terrain-set/

>>47251650
You get little portal tokens to show the entrances to rooms. Fluffwise its because the silver tower is less actual physical rooms and hallways and more a mahical everchanging labyrinth,

again from >>47234262

What justifies the price tag for Silver Tower? Descent is like 80 bucks (RSP) and has 8 heroes, around 38 monsters and 48 dungeon map tiles, plus cards and tokens and what not.

Not trying to hate or anything, I am a huge fan of good old Heroquest

>>47253295
Because the descent minis are terrible - and thats speaking from someone who really likes the series and owns most of the expansions.

>>47253481
Okay, maybe I am looking at it more from the board gamer perspective.

I really enjoy dungeon crawler games (e.g. Imperial Assault, Arkadia Quest) and don't care as much about the minis involved.

>>47253498
Im a boardgamer too btw. Im sure many many more people think that boardgames are overpriced compared to console games, and many more still who think thats its expensive to mobile games.

Yet we still have all 3 no?

>>47249162

Independant, I'll take that sweet sweet 23% off

>GW Store
>Their thing with the pre-orders is that pre-ordering the base game gets you the art card and a single button
>Spend $200 or more after tax to get the game marker
>Buying any one of the 4 heroes not in the box gets you that holographic card
>Buy all 4 heroes to get the full holographic pack

I guess could be worse, most other stores around me aren't doing pre-order bonuses at all, and the one that is requires you to buy the game, the heroes, a set of the bonus enemies, glue, the two White Dwarf issues, and some other shit to get the pre-order shit. I really should've just went with getting it for ~$30 off.


Besides the stuff mentioned in earlier posts, what shit are your stores doing /tg/?

>>47255900
I used to sell weed to the red shirt at my local GW so i just showed up told him that i preordered online before i realized there were bonus cards and what not so he tossed a pack my way then we started talking about our bloodbowl group

>>47255900
My local store did first 4 preordering after opening got a foil card and button, next 6 to order got the remaining buttons.

The only thing stopping me from preordering is the horrible generic hippy trippy floor tiles that look terrible with painted minis on them

>>47256223
I am fine with that because its themed around Tzeentch so I would expect it to be so.

>>47256356
Is it bad that I hope this does well enough for them to do a Vermintide expansion?

>>47232000
Ok, not a warhamms fan but I gotta ask - are they trying to get new players with boad games like these?

Because who the fuck is going to buy this at 150 DOLLARS other than GW fanbois? I personally wouldn't even if the minis look nice bc chances are I'd play like 5 times before never touching it again.

They should have cut cost a bit and brought it out for 60, 75 Dollars max.

>>47253295
As has been stated, descent figures just don't have as much to them(Though the gameplay is probably better considering GW's track record compared to FFG). That doesn't stop the vast majority of Dungeon Crawlers from being cheaper such as Dungeon Saga and Super Dungeon Explore.

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>>47256556
Oh jeez, that would be so righteous.

>>47256559
>New players
Unlikely
Fundies will gleefully pay for anything that GW makes. If they wanted it to be accessible they would have pre assembled figures like most board games have.

>>47256559
People buy these because, ridiculous as it sounds, the see it as a discount. It's not a ludicrously expensive boardgame (for boardgame standards), it's actually cheaper than just buying minis from GW.

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>>47256693
Seems like wasted potential desu. Pic related. A board game I read about a few month back and was considering getting. It seems like a way better deal for a newcomer even kf the mikniks are lower quality.

>>47249498
>Not sure if there is supposed to be a GM
There is not.

The rules say that whoever is the "marked" character moves and rolls for the monsters each turn. The mark passes to the left each turn.

I just played it at the GW store. It's not Warhammer Quest rules wise no campaign system to speak of. It is fun enough but not for $135 USD The cheapest I've been able to find.

The minis are too complex and easy to break but are very nice to look at and obviously will be desired for Age of Sigmar players.

I really wish a game more closely related to the orginal was coming out. I'd call the Silver Tower inspired by the orginal.

>>47249523
>Thanks anon. Have you played the old Warhammer Quest? How do they compare?

The new game is much more forgiving. So long as one hero survives an encounter all the others come back to life.

The rules are mechanically quite different, mostly due to being based on AoS instead of WHFB.

The way wounds work is interesting. You normally get 4 actions, but each wound you take removes one. So as you get closer to death, you get less actions, and need to rely on the "destiny dice" (similar to the power phase) to actually do anything.

As someone who has been playing the original regularly since it came out, I enjoyed it, and am buying a copy.

I won't replace the original for me, but I think I will definately play it as well.

Bonus heroes confirmed as

>Slaughter priest
>Auric Runemaster
>Knight-Venator
>Tzeentch Sorceror Lord

>>47256927
>No campaign
Are you high, m8?

I want a vampire hero.

>>47248197
>>47255900

Honestly I'd call up GW customer service and get their take on things.

I preordered the game earlier and I got the foil card pack (Which I'm assuming contains the four extra heroes), the Tzeentch counter, and two pins. My local manager is pretty good though.

Even if GW can't or doesn't do anything, those managers don't sound like they have an attitude conducive to sales and that will probably get them thrown out on their ass.

>>47253498

Silver Tower really comes off as an attempt to bridge both worlds, being a game on its own and also being a means of getting into other games or giving the people who play the other games a reason to pick it up.

Of the four board games GW has released now, including Silver Tower, all the models have rules to use them in 40k, Horus Heresy, or AoS.

>>47256559

As I said above, I think they're attempting to. At the very least GW gets a sale out of it, better case scenario is that the person who buys Silver Tower becomes interested enough to buy further expansions and such, best case scenario is that they also get interested in AoS.

>>47256796

The minis being subpar and likely unusable with the Privateer Press's other games is likely why it's so cheap. They seemed to just being going for the board game angle.

>>47257647

They're adding around 30 heroes via the app (For a small fee of course), would be surprised if there isn't at least one vampire since they've mentioned other older models like the Dark Elf Sorceress and Goblin Shaman.