/twgg/ TowerGirls CYOA General

>>47168705
Does dragon queen have one personality in all heads or one personality for each head

Current otopic seems to be trap cutebold princess

Kobold princess II (cutebold princess)
+ Cute and fluffy
+ Expert on all sorts of traps
+ Tamer of wild beasts
- Tries to tame you
- ?????

<3 Power bottoming
<3 Petplay
</3 ????

>>47168743
I would guess one for each

>>47168756
What if the turn off is girls?

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Just a reminder here is the proposed Template for Armies at this time

>[Soldier Guys] is where the power gained from the unit will be displayed. Character Art can either be the captain, as I would like, or just a stereotypical soldier from the unit. Description being what it says on the tin. Effect 1 and 2 are chosen between with either a passive or unlocked ability at the bottom. Not sure what we wanted to put there, yet.

>>47168756
Second - should be something about how tiny and weak he is, maybe play at a small dick joke in there somewhere

>>47168779
i thought we went with special forces or unique troops at the bottom, rather than an unlock system

/qst/ Thread is alive atm: >>>/qst/83441

>>47168756
>trap

Well, I'm out. Thought I'd have enough cringe mixed in with the cute, but you guys just never stop with the cringe.

>>47168811
I may of missed that when looking through the thread, I thought the Unlock granted bonus special forces or unique troops.

>>47168821
There is a trap for every generation

>>47168821
Well i mean, if we are going to make them traps, now is the time to do it, before there is any art people can get attached to. Plus We still need a power bottem

>>47168756
I thought the guy who pitched the idea meant the trap part was trapping, not being a guy in drag.

>>47168821
I'd prefer the cutebold not be a trap but there's one in every generation.

The idea arose from having a Kobold Princess 2 as a trap master, the obvious pun been they were also a trap.

>>47168834
Well i mean, From what i saw the unlocks where rather disliked because they seemed kind of nonsensical and limiting, especially considering with so few options, a lot of builds wont qualify for any unlocks

>>47168871
I did mean it that way, but someone brought it up, and that combined with the pet play and the "conqoring giants" ideas that other people had came together rather favorably in my mind

>>47168871
It was but when the idea of him/her been the trap came up his response was

> I feel the same and I'm the one who pitched the idea. But the whole trap affinity pun is almost too good to pass up.
Plus gender swapping trinkets exist for a reason

Here's an idea for the reworked rewards page, when we get to it.

Spend wealth to buy rewards you didn't qualify for. Like, 10 wealth to buy a costume, 20 for a body modification, and some not purchasable (Dragon Queen, Tower Princess, etc).

Not sure if it was already suggested/requested, but I thought I'd throw it out there.

>>47168916
>>47168874
That's why we only hit at it with the 'expert on all sorts of traps' note. Nothing more. Let the player decide if Kobold II princess is a trap or not.

>>47168773
</3 girls
It fits regardless of gender. I can go with this.

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Alright chaps going to be away for a bit I'm going to make the basic template for Music Princess however we will need someone to make Idol and Lust bonus art.

>>47168756
Triclops princess is already the animal tamer.

>>47168939
That's not how they work. Traps are referred to with male pronouns in their text and their lust symbol has two male symbols. IT isn't left up to the imagination.

>>47168945
I thought we were tabling music princess until Gen III expansion?

>>47169221
Nobody ever said that.

>>47169218
>two male symbols
Well I'll be damned. I never noticed that before.

>>47164356
They need to pick a better community relations person than you, holy shit.

>>47169203
We can have more than one animal tamer, we already have a ton of big strong warriors

>>47169298
This, as well as the possibility of both having different views and methods of taming.

Triclops could be the one who captures and raises, while Trapbold captures and eats. Not sure how Triclops' story goes because I'm too lazy to just look, but so long as Trapbold's reasons for trapping are different, it'd be perfectly fine.

>>47164356

>It's great to see the new stuff you guys made!
>too bad that nobody will respect them except you guys

>>47169263
It does smack a bit of a backhand complement doesn't it?

He did say that he should of said original gens rather than official in his next post.

Made me shake my reading it especially after Photo Anon (I think) had just gone into detail about how we should refer to the gens official\fan gens to avoid putting people down or dismissing people a thread earlier.

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>>47169341
>And that's the way you turn the community most likely to fund you against you.

>>47168945

I return with gifts

>>47169341
That is how I read it too.

I sort of get what he is saying, Work with the material that is more solidified at the moment.

But the way things are worded, it feels like we aren't really significant anymore. We are just some piss-ants kicking stones around for nothing.

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>>47169417
Also her relevant knight, Bass Knight is awaiting artwork.

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She needs a lot more refinement...But you gotta start somewhere I suppose?

>>47169341
>>47169381
He's definitely not going to find much place for him and his game here if he keeps acting like that. Duke really needs to sit him down and adjust his attitude, or pick someone who is less of a cunt to be in charge of outreach.

>>47169461
Not enough snoot, too much dog, by far

>>47169461
Disagree with >>47169473 , snouts are disgusting.

>>47169461
I was going for DF cutebolds when i suggested them, not puppy girls :/

>>47169461
Tail wag <3

Eversor your work is always damn adorable.

Kind of just doesn't feel right without that long snout and head shape though.

>>47169417
That green is absolutely impossible to read, god damn. Tone it down a notch, when you can.

>>47169461
She needs a face like the Dragon Princesses, with a pronounced snout. That, or like the regular Kobold and just have a っ mouth.

>>47169494
Kobold princess 1 has a cute snoot to boop though!

>>47169515
That's not cute.

>>47169425
>>47169469

Well to be honest as long as we are having a fun time and actually produce something who gives a damn what a naysayer thinks.

Once we've cleaned up the expansions I think things will look a lot more solid and less slapdash.

>>47169540
Its fucking adorable, i don't know what your talking about.

>>47169566
>My dog's face is adorable!

>>47169540
I respect your opinion, and politely disagree.

Kobold is for hugs and eskimo kisses.

>>47169563
It's a fair warning to him and his game, if they want to keep talking about it here and posting updates, not to be a dick to the people most into Towergirls while trying to sell them on you.

>>47169461
I would have expected a more orange-tan color

>>47169506
Used the same colour as the hair as it was the dominate princess colour.

I can read it fine but if people want I will darken it a bit.

>>47169461
Err, you are familiar with cutebolds yes? should we get some reference pics?

>>47169381
Yeah, that was Photo Anon talking to him.

>>47169639
All I know is that I'm way, way less interested in subtitle pending after reading that post.

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How is this iteration?

>>47169779
Definitely an improvement. Looks more like a monster now.

I personally think it should have small claws though. Nothing long, just noticeable spikes.

>>47169779
hmm i think have the hair more pulled back, like just an extension of fur, rather than bangs,

>>47169820
I think that'd make her look like a massive fivehead.

>>47169819
>>47169779
yeah, lose the doggy gloves for sure,

>>47169841
Nah man, keep the gloves, just add some claws to the tips. It's like a more feral, less shit Dog Princess.

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>>47169779
I liked the original colour personally but this seems favoured by the group.

I love the little snout and fang.

>>47169506
This better?

>>47169854
>Girl looks like a straight up dog instead of a person
>Less shit
Nah.

>>47169854
+1 Gloves with claws>>47169779

>>47169868
>wants his monster to just be a person

>>47169889
>Wants to fuck his dog

>>47169854
But cutebolds aren't dogs though! they are just fuzzy!

>>47169863
Much better, yeah.

>>47169836
Just make the hair the same color as the fur or have it change in a gradient,

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I tried a lil bit of everything. I can take out whatever isn't working.

Also I didn't want to make an exact clone of a cutebold. lets make a "bold of our own" ya know?

>>47169988
Reduce the claw count to 3, and it's perfect.

I agree on the "bold of our own" mentality. There's only so much you can do before it's a complete copy of something else. This is unique while still being similar to other things. Plus, Cutebolds are so featureless that you NEED to take artistic liberties for them to stand out.

>>47169988
hmm i would say blend the bangs into the forehead a bit more, and thin the arms some. as is they kinda look like operating gloves more than anything.

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>>47169679
I'm going to put it down to Hetros having a bit of an ego, he is the project manager and most managers I've met tend to have a chip on their shoulder.

I suspect he is getting into the mind set that they are the official Tower Girls continuation so we are just fan art and not important other than been the possible customer. Hopefully Duke or Gats can have a word with him.

If Duke or Gats starts taking that attitude too however then I'll fear for the project.

>>47169889
See image

>>47169915
Glad to hear it.

>>47169889
Opps picture was meant to be to this chap>>47169903

>>47169988
>>47170016
its less that i want pure cutebolds, and more that dog girl wasn't what i had in mind at all, with that said, this version looks pretty good, as soon as you cut down the finger count to 3 like >>47170016 said

>>47170055
People were saying from the start to go more dog to distinguish her from the lizard one.

>>47170066
She's becoming a knoll princess at this point.

>>47169988
maybe make the ears just a tad longer

>>47170083
Gnolls are hyenas, not dogs.

>>47169988
I dunno about the way the mouth hooks, but everyone else seems fine with it.

>>47170083
not really, she doesn't look like a hyena at all, she looks just about right here

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Still bouncing around here. But here is claws reduced (Kobold had 5 fingers thats why i originally went with it)

And also a longer set of ears.

>>47170159
Right (our left) arm is a bit thick, but otherwise 10/10.

>>47170159
those claws are perfect! not sure weather i like the bangs or pulled back hair though, maybe make the bangs a tad shorter and poofier as a mid point?

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>>47170179
Sorry folks for spamming up the board with tiny edits! Haha here you go!

>>47170223
Could he have a hoop ear ring in one ear? for some reason i feel like that would fit

>>47170223
Hey man, progress is progress. People put up with all the Jabberwock stuff I was doing, and she was far less appealing than this one.

The arm still seems off, and I can't quite place why. Also, what >>47170251 said; a hoop earring would probably look really good, despite hoop earrings being inherently shit in real life.

>>47170265
I object, jabberwock princess is threatening goblin for my favorite princess slot

>>47170265
Because the left arm is skinnier than the right one, even though is shows 4 fingers which would make you think it should be bigger.

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Achachacha

>>47170391
needs more bulge

>>47170391
I think we've got a winner, folks.
Now abuse them.

>>47170429
Don't you mean now apply headpats?

>>47170450
Why not both?

>>47170391
Thats about perfect ever, maybe a small bulge but otherwise great!

>>47170476
While it's supposed to be a trap, I'd like to contest the bulge part. Reasons being;

- A bulge on a loincloth would add a humorous distortion to the cloth's direction
- The cloth could technically be further out than the bulge, concealing it even better to be sprung later
- Tribals don't ever have visible bulges on their loincloths, except in porn.

While I'd laugh my ass off if this one had a massive bulge that made the loincloth stick out, I'd greatly suggest the cloth not bulge at all.

>>47170476
The only trap with a bulge is Djinn who wears a thong. I don't think it'd make sense for a dick to be poking out of cloth when Boy Princess, Nomad etc don't.

>>47170643
Thats fair,

>>47170391
What happened to the claws?

>>47170718
People suggested there be a more sane amount of them.

>>47170740
no i mean, the white claws went away, now its the same color as the fur, so it just looks like fingers

>>47170749
they weren't ever white in this design bro. If that's a suggestion and all that's fine, just saying.

>>47170776
in >>47170223 this pic the claws are clearly lighter than the fur, while in >>47170391 its the same color

>>47170797
Oh, I see it. It's very slight, had to look at the screen from another angle.

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poof!

>>47170829
Perfect! I Cant ask for more, hes just great!

>>47170829
Isn't my thing but I love a princess I gotta work on during a run

>>47170890
I... have no idea what your saying here

>>47170890
Just need a magic electric razor.

>>47170911
Anon is saying he's not their fetish, so they're going to use lust bonuses and stuff to tweak him during their run.

>>47170925
That reminds me, are their any bonuses that allow you to make things reptillian?

>>47170925
Ahh ok that makes sense

>>47170945
Not that I know of.

>>47170971
Thay could make a fun bonus
>she'd skin coat
>bestow any target a reptillian form

>>47171161
Coat make me think coatl, as in quetzacoatl, the winged serpent in short a harpy naga princess with aztec theme

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Made another silly quick princess. Got lazy with the hair and clothes.

>>47171291
Posessed by who?

>>47171323
by you

>>47171323
By one of the following;

>Another Ghost Princess
>A sentient shadow
>Smuhg's ex wife
>Some other ridiculous thing

>>47171347
>>47171323
this reminds me; is there a ghost knight? I remember there being an illustration for a Yokai Knight, but I don't know if there was ever any stats for it.

Is there a parts bin of art assets I can grab?

>>47171348
>Smuhg's Ex
That made me sad for a few minutes, but then I remembered that Smhug's a lazy asshole who probably couldn't get a girl in the first place.

After all, according to the rewards page, the way to achieve Smuhg-dom is to make exactly enough effort to acquire zero waifus

>>47171479
Nah, but there's a booru.

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>>47171161
I like it

>>47171291
Also I wish this was around sooner XD
I would of used it in my play through for my mimic princess turned human and possessed by ghost princess picture

>>47169263
>>47169381
>>47169469
>>47169341
>>47169425
>>47169563
>>47170040
I think it's patently obvious I owe you guys, and everyone in these threads, an enormous apology. I could have said what I said in much more polite terms, and I came across as a complete and total fuck-wit who was condescending to not only the person I was communicating with, but to the entire thread, including the members of our own team who have helped out on this, and was called to task by them for my post. What I said was purely my own opinions, and not those held by the team at large.

My personal belief has always been that the newer, fan made stuff, should be called Fan Gens, not because it gives the older gens more credence, but because I felt that by not saying that those charts were not made by Gats- then it's easier for others to think that they were, and thus make the mistake of thinking that these were not the works of dedicated anons and artists who love the fandom and wanted to expand on it.

It is obvious that whatever my intentions were, not only did I go about expressing them in the wrong way, but they were wrongheaded in the first place. I apologize again for being a tremendous jackass last night.

>>47171702
>Fan Gens
I think the main problem is the insistence on this terminology. There's been two more "real" gens since the original three, and a lot of talented people are investing their time and skill to make what we make here the best that is can be.

We see ourselves as picking up where Gats left off, and the offending post you mention implied that all out efforts amounted to little more than the mud from which the lotuses of other, better projects bloom.

All we ask is to be seen as a legitimate fork of the original Towergirls project and to be respected as such.

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>>47171702
You owned up to it, that takes heart, you have my respect, have a cheese cake knight

>>47171702
>>47171795
I agree that they're not "official" in the sense that it isn't the original guy's work, but calling it a fan generation is a bit much.

Why not expansion pack? Because like games (that are worth a damn) that have expansions, there's new content and mechanics. "Fan Gen" should be what we have as the current Fan Gen 1; additional and humorous extras.

That way, there's the original three, the two expansion packs, and the fan gen. Just my two cents.

>>47171702
Being able to apologize is a good thing, and even better is to be able to forgive. So since you've met us halfway I'll do the same.

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>>47171479

>>47171795
>We see ourselves as picking up where Gats left off, and the offending post you mention implied that all out efforts amounted to little more than the mud from which the lotuses of other, better projects bloom.
>All we ask is to be seen as a legitimate fork of the original Towergirls project and to be respected as such.
It was absolutely not my intention to say that you guys were not such. I realize now that I said that really badly and was a jackass about it, but I can see where you guys are coming from on this.

What would be a preferred way to refer to the difference between the various forks then?

>>47171821
>>47171879

Thank you Anons. I appreciate it. No shame in admitting that picture an old favorite of mine.

>>47171836
If no one objects to this stance, I'll refer to them as original and expansions from now on, and ask that the rest of the team do the same?

I'm
>>47171795

and this:
>>47171944
is fine by me.

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>>47170829
I corrupted her and I regret very little

>>47172116
>her
Not until you use boy princess's lust gift

>>47172116
>Wants to put the leash on you

>>47172138
You know what I mean
>>47172154
Yep

>>47171702
>>47171944
I think everyone has worded something in a way that's accidently offended someone at least once so I'm holding no grudges.

>If no one objects to this stance, I'll refer to them as original and expansions from now on, and ask that the rest of the team do the same?

I think that's a nice middle ground

>>47171944
Photo Anon here. Honestly, I took a bit of personal offense at the "haphazardly thrown together" comment. As someone who's been working on Subtitle pending, a group effort, I think you can appreciate my frustration at a half-years effort of mine being dissed.

As for what to call them, please don't call them "Expansions". I don't exactly have a great suggestion, but I want to avoid confusion in the future with those other pages that are like False Gen.

Kind of Rambly Explanation:
The reason I ask that is because False Gen (Wyvern Princess) would be the first Expansion Gen. The differentiation being important because what we make for Gens IV and V "Fan Gens" won't have any old "these didn't make it on Gats' original chart" type princesses and thus won't be fan princesses.

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Dumb idea, pillar princess

>>47171821
Are you the same guy that always shitposts with that pic?

>>47172217
Hey, PA, since False Gens's sucessors tend to have fake dragons, what if we call them all false gens, and gens IV, V, and up can be called expansion gens?

>>47172213
>>47172217
As I said here. I don't think it's a perfect fit because the "Fan Gens" won't have fan princesses soon enough. So it'd be more apt to call them expansions since they take existing mechanics and give more content to them.

We could jokingly call them the "PG Gens" (Post-Gats, but a play on the movie rating system, since they're quite obviously not PG.)

>>47172260
That'd also work for me, I suppose. Just trying to be clear with the naming convention before there's confusion over the situation.

>>47172217
Ah good point, that would mix up the terminology and cause a bit of confusion

How about:
Original Gens - Gats
Next Gens,Second Edition Gens or just /Tg/ Gen - Here
Expansions - Wyvern Princess and future Gen expansions.

I'd almost completely forgotten about the "haphazardly thrown together" comment about your efforts, that was one of the things I think that pissed a lot of people off when they read it.

>>47172244
No, I just liked the pic, I don't spam it

>>47172237
AWAKEN, MY MASTERS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM

>>47172217
>Photo Anon here. Honestly, I took a bit of personal offense at the "haphazardly thrown together" comment. As someone who's been working on Subtitle pending, a group effort, I think you can appreciate my frustration at a half-years effort of mine being dissed.
Then yeah, I owe you an apology in particular. Been kicking myself for that one since I woke up.

I'll leave what to call them up to you guys, and try to keep abreast of that, as will the team.

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>>47172116
Half assed coloring edition

>>47172344
>>47172260
>>47172217
Just gonna say...

aren't -all- of the gens fan made expansions?

Like even DPIV and DPV are made by fans... rather than by gats.

What happens if Gats wanted to make those two dragon princesses himself and generations to go along with them?

Are we going to rip into him for 'dismissing half a years work'?

>>47172344
>>47172275
>>47172260
Here's a strawpoll I set up, so we can get the terminology out of the way

http://www.strawpoll.me/10172082

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>>47172400
I felt the need to alter your image just slightly.

>>47172410
>Gats coming back

That's not really something we foresee happening. If he does, he might pick up where he left off, and we'd have to renumber our generations to fit.

Or, he might pick up were -we- left off. Whatever works. Modern version control is more of an art than a science.

>>47172462
Well you're not wrong.

>>47172488
>That's not really something we foresee happening. If he does, he might pick up where he left off, and we'd have to renumber our generations to fit.
I think this would be the best way to go. I mean we'd probably have to redo the dragon princesses of those two generations, or make them into other mythological beasts entirely.

Didn't gats say that the other continents had entirely different giant monsters dominating them?

>>47172488
well didn't some anon make up like, 8 total dragons? We had ancient dragon princess as I recall and few others, organized by element.

We could swap out the black and white dragon princesses for those.

>>47172546
Killing our princesses would be bad. If that happens better just make them unrelated dragons.

>>47172606
>Killing our princesses would be bad. If that happens better just make them unrelated dragons.
We should? Or Gats should?

>>47172260
Actually, that was a suggestion I made to Photo Anon when he started putting that together.

>>47172532
>Didn't gats say that the other continents had entirely different giant monsters dominating them?

I want this. This would be fun to design around, especially if there was a dragon princess (unrelated to the queen) as one of the captured princesses.

>>47170829
Great another Trap princess for my ever growing collection.

>>47172626
We? I thought that was obvious. IF he comes back and IF he wants to do his own 4 and 5 instead of accepting ours. With all these IFs, we would call our girls unrelated dragons instead of throwing out the characters.

>>47172488
Gats here. I've had plans for Gen IV and V since Gen III, but when the lewd edition of the charts was completed, I was glad to have that downtime. There were other projects starting up (the knights, the other Gen IV, the Towergirls: Subtitle Pending game, etc) that it seemed like people definitely had enough to do, but eventually time had passed and I had no clue how to begin gens IV and V. Ideally I've been wanting to re-do the charts entirely, but with people working on their own, I felt as if it'd be unfair to them. When I heard that there was work being done on new charts (the ones you guys have now) I've been having fun with seeing how they've turned out.

I still have plans for Gen IV and V, and I've always had notes hanging around for what they'd include, how things would look, etc. but I've purposely not put a hand in these charts so that people can work together to make their own stuff, and frankly it's pretty fucking cool. So if I'll be doing Gen IV and V, it won't be as a chart, it'll be as something else. If I do make charts, they'll look different to the current ones. Either way, the charts you guys have made are absolutely your own, which I don't think was ever in doubt.

>>47172780

So there wont be any overlap, well that's good. If that's the case than we really don need to worry about any conflicts.

>>47172780
(Photo Anon)

I'll admit, I'm just glad that what we've made gets the "it's pretty fucking cool" Gats seal of approval.

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>>47172780

>>47172260
The thing is, False gen 1 EVERYTHING was fake, there was no kidnapping, there was no dragon, no treasure, no princesses, it was all a sham. That's somewhat different to jabberwock or Drake princess, who are just not classical dragons.

>>47172877
That's a fine opinion! Make it heard:

http://www.strawpoll.me/10172082

>>47172892
Already did.

>>47172780
Sweet. Best of luck. Feel free to contribute whenever, it is Anonymous after all. :^)

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>>47172780
That's pretty cool of ya Gats

>>47172400
Half assed shaded edition

>>47173121
Don't worry, I definitely will. :^)
Some things I will point out since they probably have more weight if I say them: you don't have to do the trap for every gen thing, that's already like, six traps. I found it funny while I was doing the charts, but 'canonically' I consider nomad female, and holstaur non-futa, along with just about every other fetish being non-legit. It was the 'lewd' edition after all, and those were there to make stupid jokes, but people definitely took them seriously after a while. I don't automatically assume plant princess loves watersports and honestly, neither should you guys.

If you have any questions let me know, because I'll probably go back to taking a back seat again.

>>47172780
What sort of plans did you have? if i may ask?

Had a crippling migraine so I stepped away for a bit but the percocets are finally kickin in!

>>47171702
Hetros, you are a darn swell guy.

>>47172116
Oh gosh! Wiggle! I love this, it is super adorable and made my day!

>>47172780
Holy shit! I didn't think you still lurked here. Oh gosh oh gosh....EVERYONE LOOK BUSY! QUICKLY! (Grabs a pen upside down and rubs a pad of paper vigorously.)

>>47173236
(Throws up her system books, speedily picks up their miniature princess tokens.)

>>47171429
I just looked at the Knights Master List I have saved on my computer and I think is up to date. There's no ghost knight as far as I can tell.

I'd post it, but the file size is too big.

>>47173217
Huh. I guess we could have a good Cactus Princess...
Alright then, thanks for the input.

>>47173217
Nothing can save the ruined cow.

>>47172877
Jabberwocks and drakes count as pseudodragons, and psuedo- means false, so...

>>47173217
Well, I'm going to continue with that tradition. With all the effort we've made to keep it, I see no reason to stop it, sepecially when This Cutebold already fulfills it for this gen.

Also, I just wanted to ask. With the first 3 gens dragons being colored as aspects of Tiamat. It always felt natural that 2 more gens should have been done to complete the set. So when I came into towergirls for Gen V I thought that while the quality of IV was not are strong as 1-3 it was still regarded as part of a set.

It just feels odd to leave it at 3 gen as the "official" parts of towergirls, poor Tiamat needed her Black and White or else her head would feel a lil light.

>>47173287
Eh, we're trying to maintain consistency so it's better to still do traps and stuff.

>>47173327
Same, but I've always been the person to go my own way so no matter what anyone says 4 and 5 are equal to the other 3.

>>47172877
and yet they benefit you if you add it to the run

>>47173302
>ruined

>>47173333
quads

>>47173236
Thank you very much ^^ I'm happy it made you happy!

>>47173302
Holstie wasnt even a trap, she was a side thing

>>47173217
Does Knight Princess have any legitimate claim to the throne, or is her band just using her?

>>47173427
I didn't say she was a trap?

>>47173372
Yes but what i mean is, it wasn't called false for no reason, Its whole theme is being fake, which is not shared by any of the other material we have for expansions.

>>47173429
None but one built of spite.

>>47173429
>Legitimacy

That's hard to establish in this setting, since more than just the other human princesses have gained that title by more popular acclaim than an inherited title.

Human princess is definitely probably the daughter of the Human king, but the others are backed by factions of their own, which in this world makes them just as much princesses as being the daughter of a king. They have the crowns to prove it!

>>47173429
Most human upper-nobles have a claim to the throne.

>>47173283
Shit, we need to make a ghost knight (or at least stat the Yokai Knight).
We need our spooks.

>>47173768
Copper Knight is a ghost

>>47173768
Skeleton Knight could use a spookbro, so agreed.

>>47173223
Trying to remember back to that time, originally every dragon 'hoarded' something, whether it was money, knowledge, friendship, etc. I think DPIV hoarded weapons, and DPV hoarded relics. Some things are still the same (DPIV is still an aggressive asshole), but things like the 4th gen being water-based and 5th being eastern are now reworked.
In terms of projects, I've helped people out every now and again with their own, and with my own there's just the one - attempts to figure out how to best express my interpretation of the lore. I've given some of my own ideas to Subtitle Pending, and a side thing I'm working on for them will hopefully scratch that lore itch along with helping them advertise for their game.

>>47173302
From my perspective, there's nothing really I can say that'd turn that kind of opinion. The end result is that I don't think she's a futa, canonically she isn't a futa, but to you she is a futa, which is ultimately up to you. Same with witch's bestiality kink, etc. etc.
I've changed the charts over and over again myself, so I don't understand the upset when people are able to change them for these new charts.

>>47173429
There's at least two princesses with a legitimate claim to the throne.
If it wasn't obvious, Human Princess isn't one of them.

>>47173802
Oh, yeah you're right. Though I do think that we could have a ghost themed knight in the mix anyway.

>>47173820
Well, Gats, tell us who're the princesses with the best claim to the throne. Nomad and boy? Knight and merchant? I am curious indeed.

>>47173820
Which one of the gen IV or V princesses that we've done is your favourite?

>>47173820
>>47173896

My guess would be Boy and Knight.

>>47173911
These honestly make a lot of sense.

>Boy princess was born first, but due to his "assets", he was quickly abandoned. His mother died from the shock, probably
>Knight princess was born second, and was kidnapped when the kingdom was at its weakest. Learning to fight and taking down the bandits who caught her, she works her way around to protect the weak. Ironically, she just gets captured again.

Or something along those lines. Either way, the human king's an asshole.

>>47173820
>DPIV hoarded weapons, DPV, relics

Huh. We were close, kinda, to what you were planning to do anyway. We only got them switched around.

>>47173820
>Human Princess is only the Princess of humanity because of a long, convoluted series of events involving everything from the Dragon Mother to the near extinction of the P'orc all the way to events as insignificant as Mimic Knight's decision to become a hero
>Human Princess is completely ignorant to all of this, and probably won't take it well if she were to ever find out

>>47173897
Ooh now you are asking the hard hitting questions!

>>47173820
because an edit is only an edit

>>47173911
>>47173959
Boy Princess is bluntly a peasant given importance by peasants who adopted him as a figure head.

Knight Princess is a random noble from the same line as human princess.

the first is bluntly a usurper, the second has as much claim as HP but wasn't born into the running.

>>47173820
I just really don't like the idea of adding lore to the DQ, considering it'll probably be something very hateable.

>>47173978
You said you're working on two more generations.

Are -any- of the known human princesses actually possessing of a legitimate claim? rather than the 'next best thing' like HP and KP?

>>47173989
>DQ lore

What's all this, then? This is the first I'm hearing of it, but I've been more interested in /tg/'s work on the lewd edition, to be honest.

>>47173976
>an edit is only an edit
oh I'm sorry princess, do you need someone to kiss your boo boos better? Nevermind that Gats uses Touhou rules of 'everything is canon' do you need someone to come down from the mount with clay tablets for the way princesses work?

>>47174015
All we know is that they're doing something short to advertise the subtitle game and it involves DQ.

>>47173989
Why? For all we know Dragon Queen has totally legitimate reasons (to her) for unleashing her daughters on the land.

>>47174015
The other day Hetros posted the OP Image and said that there's something in the works, and that ultimately lead to the hissyfit held above that resulted in him apologizing.

>>47174005
He said he might in the future work on something not in chart format.

>>47174034
>Why?
I said why, it's probably going to be something very hateable.

>>47174030
see: >>47173820
>I've given some of my own ideas to Subtitle Pending, and a side thing I'm working on for them will hopefully scratch that lore itch along with helping them advertise for their game.

Think they might be the same deal?

>>47174005
I'm not gats, though I've seen his lore doc.

and it depends on what you mean by 'legitimate claim' does HP have legitimate claim to High Forest Kingdom? Well her father has had control of the throne for generations.

But there's an entire continent out there, multiple kingdoms and once upon a time Humanity had a much larger empire.

>>47174034
>Hissyfit
Oi, you. The guy apologized. Everyone else but you recognized it was a misstep. You don't come in here hours later trying to white knight him and stir up drama.

>>47173976
Wait, you're saying even if we had Photo Anon go back and 'fix' holstaur princess so she isn't futa in the chart, she'd still be a futa in your eyes?

>>47174057
if that wasn't a Hissyfit then what was it?

>>47174068
Hissyfits are unjustified. You're the only one taking that stance.

>>47174054
>lore doc
I'd like to see that, even if parts of it conflict with what I see as canon, it might have some pretty good ideas!

>>47174085
I'm not even that guy but I'd say Hissyfit is a good word for it.

>>47174092
Then you and him are both going against everyone elses conclusions and desires and are stirring up drama.

>>47174067
Yes.

>>47174107
who is 'everyone else' in this? It's an anonymous image board we have...what 24 unique posters in this thread? How many of them are frequent posters? How many of them are driveby shit posters? We have a handful of name and tripfags who provide regular content in here.

you gonna do anything except bitch about word choice?

>>47174148
If you don't want to recognize that you're in the wrong for defending someone who pointedly disagreed with your conclusion and apologized, then that's your damage. Just know that it's not appreciated.

>>47174148
And some that don't even provide content. Just shit post.

>>47174128
Everybody keeps saying that only cannon is what's in your head. Gats himself, the perpetrator of this whole game, says she's not futa.

It sound to me like you're happier with HP being a futa, because otherwise you'd accept the edit I hypothetically proposed in >>47174067

>>47174170
who says I'm defending him? I saw some anons lose their shit when a duck was called a duck. I'm looking at the facts as they're presented and a lot of people in here have really thin skins.

So on the topic of knigh: What should we do about them? There are only a few slots left (even though we can make expansions for the knights chart if we so desire).

>>47174198
Oh, hey, it's that guy that comes to this thread only to talk about how much he hates the new charts and loves the game. Why are you even here?

>>47174197
The canon is on the charts.

>>47174209
this is my first time posting in a tower girls thread since the original gen m90. Why are you so keen to take offence to fan gens being called fan gens?

>>47174203
There can always be an expansion if we want one. After all, there's many knights but few princesses in comparison.

>>47174225
gats has bluntly stated that whatever you want is canon.

you seem pretty desperate to have something to be upset about.

>>47174225
You just said that if we changed the charts she'd still be a futa to you, so no, canon isn't on the charts.

>>47174229
Doubt.

>>47174203
I say we can work on a few knights in between the princesses, at least if it's to finish the chart.

>>47174253
Since when are you gats?

>>47174229
new guy here

We didn't take offense to 'fan gens' so much as the (now retracted) insinuation that our work here wasn't as important or respectable. We're a legitimate fork of the Towergirls project, and the 'hissyfit' Hetros unintentionally provoked is now starting to get directed at you.

How does that make you feel?

>guy who actually posted hissyfit
Mother fuck, I just use that term or things like it any time anybody argues about shit that's not directly content related.

>>47174270
Since when are you? Gats him-flippin'-self says futa!holstaur isn't canon, who are you to contradict him?

>>47174343
His chart says otherwise.

>>47174333
Hint: Being dismissive of people doesn't illicit a good reaction. Thus, it's not a good term to use at all.

>>47174363
I proposed changing the chart. We can do that, you know!

But that wouldn't work, would it? Because Gats didn't do it. Even if he did, she'd still be a futa in your eyes.

I agree with >>47174250
You just want something to get bent out of shape about. Here's my advice: Get bent.

>>47174343
>>47172780
>>47173217
>>47174015

See referring to the charts as lewd edition is really strange to me, because as far as i know, only Gen 1 has a clean edition

>>47174396
But you're not gats so your changes to his charts don't count.

Instead of you having this argument, can you instead just go back to princess rescuing?

Please.

>>47174408
I second this motion. Let's save more bitches.

>>47174312
bored mostly, as I'm anon anonymous poster on an image board which has debatable attachement to traditional games.

oh no you will send anonymous text at me, maybe a reaction image.

The charts bluntly are irrelevant outside your emotional attachment to them. Even the originals are irrelevant, they matter as much as you want them to.

so please, by all means. Spend the next 10 minutes angry that someone insinuated that your work on a fan project spawned by one bored Artist's desire to make random internet strangers happy isn't really earth shattering or interesting.

Hissyfit is an excellent term to describe your behaviour right now. What reason do I have to respect an anonymous poster on a website that can best be described as 'one enormous waste of time'

yeah that's right, none. By the same token you have no reason to respect me, anything I say, or my opinions.

They're Fan Charts, made by fans of someone else's work. Nothing about that description is dismissive. But apparently calling a work what it is, unofficial, unsolicited, done for one's own enjoyment is dismissive of the time and effort that you yourself chose to invest in the project.

apparently an offhand comment about the time you chose to spend in your image manipulation program, word editor, or website you choose to spend free time on is enough to upset you.

maybe you should reassess the value you place on the opinions of others.

>>47174408
This guy!

You are all so creative! Don't your waste your powers!

>>47174405
Two questions:

1) Why are you compaining about it here if we aren't Gats? Send him one thousand emails, maybe that will fix Holstarus for you

2) Even if we aren't Gats, why can't we change it? (not that I want to) We've forked the project. We only maintain what we had matntained of the original three because we liked Gats's work. As you keep pointint out, though, we note flaws and change them to our liking.

bonus question!

3) Get bent? Get bent.

>>47174408
So, princess idea.
Alien Princess
Art (Literally just a grey, in a dress, with a small alien esque crown)
+Intelligent
+Curious
-Afraid of water, refuses to bathe
+Experimental
-TOO Experimental

<3 New Experiences
<3 (Some way of implying Anal Probing)
</3 ???

>>47174491
We had alien princess art lying around somewhere.

>>47174496
She has three eyes if i remember

>>47174496
The blue/green one in the purple dress, right? I miss her, she was a cool one.

>>47174443
You keep forgetting that the person who made the comment disagrees with you as well.

>>47173896
It's something you'll eventually find out. The answer is pretty obvious, but I've yet to see someone guess it.

>>47173897
Kitsune, Phoenix, Whale, Cactus and Serpent I really like the designs of. Also despite how much shit I gave for the idea of a rat princess, the design is solid too. In terms of favorite, it's kinda hard to say. I have a lot of love for Fungus Princess, for sure.

>>47173963
Yeah, essentially. Black was IV, White was V. In order, the dragons represent Hunger, Power, Acceptance, Vengeance and Honor.

>>47173965
Human Princess is a pretty tragic character. Her bloodline is tainted with a lot of evil doings, but as it is in reality, that's the fate of a royal family. She herself is very unaware of this, though.

>>47174401
To me, there's the first charts, which were semi-lewd, the second, which never saw the light of day until the third charts (and were SFW), and finally the lewd edition. Before the third edition, people had also felt that Towergirls should've been mostly non-lewd, but the opposite seems to be true now.

>>47174496
>>47174506
>>47174491
I recall one made on /v/ that had three tits I think.

>>47174531
That one was made here and didn't make it onto a chart.

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>>47174443

>>47174523
>pretty obvious
>no one's guessed it yet

I think you need to reassess the obviousness of your intended human heirs

>>47174209
There was a guy like that? I remember a fucker who kept saying the games were shit and used any chance given to attack the makers of the games if anybody said anything about nonchart content... But not a bizarro world version of him. Last time he was about he accused Hetros of trying to steal artists from the thread.

>>47174523
is it Orphan Princess?

>>47174523
I dunno, is Sir Knight the legitimate human prince?

>>47174585
I thought sweetest Waifu is explicitly a fan creation though?

>>47174588
I never liked his design personally.

so no.

>>47174593
she is
so yeah best she can hope for is someone's pity

>>47174602
Wait... Evil acts... Bosses were fan made...
Skeleton and Ghost?!

>>47174578
I mean, boy, knight, merchant and nomad are all explicitly the leaders of small traveling groups, which may or may not even be in the same kingdom, I'm not sure they would even be competing for the same crown even if they where major candidates.

>>47174578
I stand by that claim, though since I won't actually state who it is, I'll be taking my leave before I waste more of people's times. It was fun though, I'll see you guys on the other side. Hopefully when the side-thing comes out, you'll have fun seein' the stuff I've thrown together.

>>47174634
Going that direction, there's also Slime and (the princess eaten by) Mimic.

>>47174653
I'll love to see it.

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I want this to be a princess

>>47174694
>Metroid Princess
Eh

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>>47174634
getting warmer

>>47174682
I'm uncertain if Mimic Princess ever actually ate a princess or just assumed the form of one as bait.

>>47174584
There was. He likes to claim that only the game is 'legitimate content' and everything we make is fake.

>>47174710
Zombie Princess?

>>47174694
Phaze superior Metroid waifu.

>>47174714
what in the trash thread?

I've never seen that here, nevermind that there's two games a Lewd one from towerfag (what the fuck happened to him anyway? He used to come around here pretty regularly it seems.) and a non Lewd one from Hetros and company who seem pretty cool. (and they have gats onboard apparently so they can't be all bad.)

>>47174714
Nobody in either thread said that. They've said that everything after hats stuff is fan made, which is totally true... I mean, if you want to equate fan=fake...

>>47174710
Vile from Megaman X.

So
you guys wanna make a knight or two? It's not like we're doing much else at the moment.

>>47174736
It was here. The guy has only popped up rarely though, but I've been here since we started back up.

>>47174759
Player Knight? Ehhh?

>>47174759
I never cared for knights.

>>47174759
Is the ghost knight guy still around?

>>47174780
I have literally not once seen a person with that opinion on here. Got a screen cap or desustorage post?

>>47174787
Only if he's That Guy equivalent of knights.

>>47174796
I mean, I guess I'm ghost knight guy, so yeah.

>>47174801
I aint digging through months of threads for you, anon.

Anyway I wish people weren't scared of drawing their own princesses now, even if it'll get traced over later. We could go ahead and blow through Fan Gen II's remaining stuff faster.

>>47174809
Yyyyes.

Why don't people brainstorm armies?

>>47174809
Dark Souls invasions when?

Towergirls: Prepare to Cuck Edition.

>>47174709
Mitocrondiral Princess, of the Amoebic Kingdom!

I'm not sure how i feel about this whole guessing the heir thing since doesn't Tower Princess's canonically lack a cannon setting? or am i remembering wrong

>>47174835
Goatmen?

>>47174842
I can see some sort of Invader Knight who ambushes knights once they've gone through the tower bosses and rescued the princesses. The truest dickwraith.

>>47174819
You just said it was this thread. You're that guy who is always trying to slander the games right? Better try that the artist poaching gambit.

>>47174861
Gats has bluntly stated he has his own lore and he's been fiddling with how to show it off to interested parties. Apparently he's making a small game to feature it in as a side project.

He's also stated everything is canon so his personal canon is whatever he wants. By extension your personal canon is presumably an AU born from similar origins but equally valid.

>>47174895
Rescues no Knights, destined to become Smuhg unless he is defeated.

>>47174923
*Rescues no princesses. Sorry.

>>47174923
>>47174941
There should totally be an adventurers princess who rescues knights who are failures, sort of like how you save onion head in dark souls whenever he is stuck.

>>47174903
No I didn't?

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>>47174941
>>47174923
oh no GM princess

this is happening now

>>47174880
Stat them up.

>>47174960
I can imagine a princess who's tired of knights failing to rescue princesses, so she dresses up in concealing armor and starts rescuing failed knights and helps them save their princess. Could be amusing.

>>47174835
Is there a chart template for them yet? There was one in the works, but I don't recall it being done.

>>47174809
I'm going to try and stat him.

>Murderous Vagabond
>Player Knight

>+quick with his wits, and finds loopholes easily
>+a master at provocative annoyance
>+not weighed down by his conscience
>-his wit is wasted on pranks and ruses
>-argumentive to the extreme
>-no self control

>Stamina: 3
>Power: 2
>Speed: 1
>Charisma:: 1
>Wit: 4

>Bag of Muck: a magic pouch that holds an infinite amout of a sticky orange liquid. Seems to be a powder when dry.
>Blade Of Hate: a balde of Player Knight's design that makes incredibly painful wounds. Actually kind of shitty otherwise.

>Implausibility Aura: once per day, Player Knight can abuse mathematics to make something totally stupid happen, as long as the rules "say' it can happen

>>47175049
There's >>47168779

>>47175057
need to ditch one of those -'s

sounds legit otherwise.

As for army ideas, how about a dog-based one called the Dogs of War? I can try and stat them up if it's cool.

>>47175135
>>47175057
we could probably get rid of the first -, since we can assume he isn't exactly the wise type.

>>47175003
I only remember Training as a stat.

Is that the level of discipline they have or how long they take to train?

>>47175205
According to the template, the only stat they have is power, represented by either a regiment of increasing size or a badge of increasing complexity.

Their real benefits are in their passive bonus to how your army operates, and one of two choices that also change how your army operates.

>>47174835
Some kinda grenadiers are a must for me. Probably dorfs or gnomes?

>>47175253
Okay, was thinking four or three power. Something high befitting wild beastmen.

gotta admit, didn't think of benefits, but on the spot I can think of growing through infecting populations (which must be subdued mentally after activation).

>>47175253
Personally, I am a tad confused on the army rules. Do you not get access to both of the two effects, or did I get something wrong? Any explanation would be appreciated!

Do we have a Tiger or Lion princess yet? I can't remember and I don't want to go through all the editions to check.

>>47175500
I'm a bit confused too, but I think it works like this: 1) Pick a troop type.
2) add power to your accrued total
3) add passive effect to your kindgom sheet
4) choose between two offered bonus effects
5) add chosen effect to kingdom sheet

I could be wrong, or even if i'm right this could be subject to change.

>>47175537
Nope, go crazy if you've got an idea.

>>47175554
That is the current idea. We were unsure, though, if we wanted to have an unlocked effect like Gen IV items had.

Maybe make them like... Unlockables?
"You may select this army only if you have rescued one of these three princesses from this gen" or something?

>>47175629
That's even more restrictive than the Treasures's unlockables

>>47175648
But like... Not take up a cart slot. Maybe not taking up a slot if you rescued one of three princesses?

>>47175629
I assumed that's what unlock requirement meant, but the chart implies that it's more of an additional power that you can unlock through other means. That's one of the reasons why I am confused.

I actually had the idea that the Dogs of War could become medics (Rescue Dogs, that is) if you rescued a princess related to healing, but that might be a tad complicated.

>>47175669
I figured you would put the banner or something in the cart and it would take up a slot.

Hey, the princess's from gen 1 couldn't keep their dowries on their laps because wizard fiat, so this makes about as much sense.

>>47175669
>>47175713

Isn't the point of army upgrades to take up slots anyway?

>>47175731
Yes.

>>47175713
That's the idea.

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>>47174842
>>47174895
>>47174923
Actually Rolling Thunder/Guayo made a knight specifically to act as a rival to the protagonist knight named Yven the Blue. He only goes for blue colored princess and is basically a snooty frenchman to boot

>>47175790
>NTR Knight
Nah.

>>47175790
>Yven of the Blue

>So French, even his helmet has lips puckered in the HONHONHON laugh.

>>47175824
Not so much NTR as a rival. Like Gary Motherf*kn Oak

>>47175851
Gary Oak is funny because he'll beat you to the gym, not because he'll nab the gym badge out from under you, you feel me?

>>47175790
>>47175824
>>47175835
>>47175851
I like the idea of rival knights. Could be a neat expansion once the knight master list is finished. The proposed dickwraith knight could fit in nicely.

>>47175863
You're right. Gary Oak is more of an NTR knight than Yven, who'll walk off with the Princesses.

>>47175876
They're all your 'rivals'. They rescue the girls you didn't.

>>47175790
>Blue Princesses Only
I like this guy... Or I would if there were more good blue princesses.

>>47175885
Not really? Outside of memetics, Gary comes and snatches things before you get there (so he'd rescue a princess before you met them), whereas this guy seems to steal girls from you, making Yven far worse.

Oh hey, we're sinking. New thread in a moment.

>>47175913
Yven goes for blue princess's If you want a blue princess, you'll have to fight him for the right to rescue her. It's only as NTR as you want it to be, anon.

>>47175930
Ring a ding ding, baby.
>>47175972

>>47175954
He seems like he steals them when you have them, which is NTR shit anon.

>>47176003
I'm just going by what I've interpreted from 1d4chan, anon. If you want NTR so bad in your game of towergirls, do whatever you want.

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>>47175891
There's always Dino Princess.

>>47176078
You mean you're ignoring what I'm saying to be an idiot on purpose.

>>47176098
<3 Foodplay
</3 Bondage
Sorry, can't deal.

>>47176098
This is the wrong chart, post her original.

>>47176134
Isn't that what we're doing?

I'm trying to offer you ways for Yven to not necessarily be NTR knight, but you keep insisting that his is, so I figure, you must want him to be the NTR knight. No judge.

>>47176254
It ultimately depends on his profile, doesn't it? Because I'm going by the info available to me currently.