/epg/ - Eclipse Phase General

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>>47135296

I made a whole army of me, which seems to be working really well, because I liked being in the army, but can't handle other people since the Fall

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If you had your choice of morph, faction, and background, who would you be?

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>>47136110

Probably Original space colonist/Extropian.

For morph, I'd either swing something hardy like a Crasher or Theseus, or take the Observer for dat INT bonus.

>>47136110
Socialite, PC, and if we're talking regular level unmodified morphs, a Menton, I guess. If we're talking any vanilla morph, a Crasher.

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>>47136110
I'd be a bored socialite kid of an even more apathetic venusian oligarch, spending inordinate resources on mildly entertaining projects. I would have a whole wardrobe of different sylphs.

>>47137487
You just need two to three with one in a healing vat at all times.

>>47136110
Not sure about background, but I'd really like to be a Solarian. Not necessarily a Surya, but it seems like the kind of quiet life I'd look for in the Solar System. Probably either a Salamander or some kind of modified synth morph. Probably a Savant.

I recently played an ex-Ultimate who had turned to a life as an ascetic monk in a Solar commune. Pretty interesting character.

Be honest, would you be a slutty prostitute in EP if you could?

>>47138930
No. What would be the point?

>>47137608
>need
that's the problem in the way you office drones think

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>>47136110
Eidolon/Out'ster/Fall Evacuee or Earth Survivor.

Later nerds.

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How popular would elf morphs be?

>>47139181
Except they're all Sylphs. You don't even have multiple types of morphs? This is why some people never make it off of the C-list.

>>47140989
Hazers are elf morphs already, but yeah, they might be pretty fucking popular.

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>>47140989
>>47141020

>>47141062
You are the worst thing about these threads.

>>47141217

Yet, I make them and keep them bumped.

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>>47140993
more I was making reference to a normalized level of absolute excess, not the extent of what I would sleeve as. I'd be happy to try all sorts of novelty, and gladly would upgrade my ego and run on properly strong hardware, but yes, my day to day living would be done in a personalized sylph.

>>47136110
Flat, Brinker, Fall Evacuee.

>>47141355
Brinker? Really? What kind of hab?

>>47136110
Octopus. Maybe a basic morph but primarily infomorph

So what sort of non-existenstial threats have you dealt with or had your players deal with?

I'm thinking what sorts of shenangicans you can get up to in the entertain business of AF10.

i.e.

>Gang wars and beefs between rival muscians
>Actors heavily in debt to the mob and looking for a way out
>Talent recruiters secretly abusing their potential stars and starlets by forcing them to do snuff vids or trick on the side before being sold to 9 lives
> A PC news anchor accused of ego killing a rival and the far reaching implications it holds.

>>47136110
Definitely a swarm morph

Cool hunters are looking for new stuff

Post /epg/ memes

>>47141921
The kind that's a one-room padded cell.

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>>47136110

Fall Evacuee, Lunar, Steel Morph.

Steel liberation ho!

>>47136110
>Sylph
>Hyperelite
>Brinker (Fascist Eugenicists)

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>>47150627

Which steel do you prefer?

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>>47150867
>brinker
>hyperelite
Pick one.

>>47140989
Less or more popular than kemonomiki morphs?

>>47151569
Being a hyperelite when growing up does not preclude you from fucking off to support Space Nazis in your adulthood.

>>47150627
Robofukker plz go.

>>47150907

This sexy bastard.

>>47136110
Splicer, Jovian, Fall Evacuee.

>>47151925
>Jovian
What are you, some kind of degenerate christfag burrito?

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>>47151701
predisposes you to it, I imagine. You shall ever be filled with impotent rage that the scum are the ones with the jar with hitler's brain in it, and won't part with it.

Would an R&D facility on Titan placed almost entirely inside an ice mountain with its main and only entrance inside a cove reachable only by watercraft over a liquid hydrocarbon lake look odd?

>>47155635

Only if its findings weren't released to the public or declassified over a year or so.

Speaking of Titan. What happens when someone tries to ignite a hydrocarbon lake? It's flammable, right?

>>47156224
Using what oxidizer?

>>47152188
>degenerate
Be careful with that rock in your glass cubicle.

>christfag
Yes.

>burrito
Build partition.

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>>47156558
>admits being a christfag
>Year of Black Heart-sama 9.495890

>>47156827
>Admits to being a heathen during the Trials and Tribulations.
You will not inherit Creation.

>>47155635
the people there should be glad to share their works and discoveries, but only if you come in person

>>47157538
>implying that the Titans don't have secret labs where they do extremely questionable shit
I was going to mention your extreme naïveté, but then I remembered that you're a socialist, so doing so would be redundant.

>>47157908
But with what money, considering the transparency thing? Private Titanian citizens hushing up their experiments sounds plausible.

>>47158494
With the same money they use to fund things that they discuss when they use anti-memory forming drugs on their leaders. You know, when they aren't sticking them in accelerated psychosurgery.

What is the motivation for infomorphed evacuees to get physical bodies? They have access to better-than-life VR, perpetually.

Why would anyone slave away for access to a shitty body that is a direct downgrade from your current position? Even the best morph is no match for VR.

>>47160302
>They have access to better-than-life VR, perpetually

Pfft, no they don't. Simulspace subscriptions and quality server time cost money.

Also, not everyone who doesn't start as infolife adjusts well to permanent disembodiment.

>>47160374
As well, living as infolife can be a lot more dangerous.

>>47160374
>Pfft, no they don't. Simulspace subscriptions and quality server time cost money.
Sure, but I don't think I was suggesting that infomorphs don't or shouldn't work, but that what they agree to work for - slavery for a body - is fucking worthless in comparison to the boundless opportunities in virtual space.

>>47160439
Who's going to give them that?

The people who maintain the physical servers?

Server space for an entire human being isn't cheap.

>>47160467
>Server space for an entire human being isn't cheap.
Yeah, it really is. Trivially so, actually. You can store an entire human in a cortical stack, which is by design far less efficient than a server is.

Furthermore, the people that give them that are the people interested in the money and/or reputation of the infomorphed person, which could be a lot of people.

>>47160519

That's storage, not running. And while theoretically you can run a human in mesh inserts, to do so is NOT the virtuality paradise you're describing. That requires both decent hosting servers for the egos, and a decent server to run the VR sim on.

>>47160584
Still radically cheaper than a body.

>>47160696

Is it really?

>>47160696
>>47161334
I know one of the books had rules for what it takes to run a server, but for the life I me I can't find it.

>>47161936
A subscription is 1,000 credits a month. Chump change.

>>47161963

Per simulspace, mind. It says "to the simulspace of your choice", so if you want any VR environ with a different function, that's either the per diem charge or more monthly subscriptions.

Also, renting a private server account is also [Moderate] per month minimum, more if you want to access a more powerful server. This also doesn't factor in cost for Eidolons, because you don't get morph bonuses from being a regular infomorph.

Meanwhile, some chump indenture in a pod can likely do his job better, is cheaper for the employer to utilize and no psychological concern to develop any complications to sudden long-term instancing as an infomorph.

Plus, it's not a flat 1,000, that's an average. Exact cost would depend on market factors where you lived

>>47162859
It looks like it was applied with a marker.

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>>47162331
Fucking kek

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we should roll a server

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>>47162937
It was. It's just face paint, not tattoos.

Here, have some actual tattoos including on the eyeball. Why is the eyeball tattooed? Because why the fuck not.

>>47163533
The piercings and gauge are just disgusting, but other than that that's a workable cyberpunk looking look she's got there.

>>47163533
hope for her sake she dies while she's pretty.

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>>47163648
Yeah, grannies with tats like that would have to look just bizarre. I mean imagine a wrinkled old prune with eyes like this.

>>47163664
Actually if I saw an old wrinkled prune with eyes like that I'd immediately swing my body into the opposite direction of wherever I was going and run a marathon length away. Either that or start questioning whether or not I've developed schizophrenia.

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>>47163693
Now add the old chinese woman who genuinely grew horns... somehow.

>>47163533
>>47163664
How are these people going to support themselves? No respectable establishment is going to hire them, looking like that.

>>47164298
Tattoo parlor or hair stylists?

>>47164298
Eh, usually for someone to go that extreme into it they already have plenty of friends and other contacts in it.

>>47136110
Crasher Titanian Drifter, I guess.

>>47162331
These contests seem rather one-sided.

>>47164298
> How are these people going to support themselves? No respectable establishment is going to hire them, looking like that.
Service industry is not that big, you know.

>>47164489
Strawman "Libertarian". Somehow the person thinks that American Libertarian means the same as European Libertarian and doesn't understand either very well.

>>47164658
If I was in a position to hire someone in any industry except maybe a tattoo parlor like >>47164312 said, I would look at these people and think "this person makes questionable choices".

God forbid I was hiring for a position that involved selling or presenting. Would you trust these ladies to sell you you a car or to pitch you a new piece of software?

>>47164990
> except maybe a tattoo parlor
Quite a few bars/clubs are also appropriate.

> God forbid I was hiring for a position that involved selling or presenting. Would you trust these ladies to sell you you a car or to pitch you a new piece of software?
I can say with absolute sincerity: it would make no difference to me. I won't trust even Jesus if he tried to sell something to me.

In fact, they might even have a better chance than the usual salesPERSON. Mostly due to me being more weirded out than paranoid.

>>47164990
> think "this person makes questionable choices"
Well, not being self-employed/independently wealthy/sufficiently qualified (i.e. needing someone's approval to get a job) already means they are on the dumb side of modern society.

Having some tattoos or piercings (or being openly homosexual/political/... - being any kind of non-conformist) doesn't matter much, if you want my opinion.

Maybe your potential employer is racist and will prefer to hire white worker, despite all the piercings it has?

>>47164942
Makes sense, I guess. I'd probably care more if it were my politics under the microscope.

This discussion makes me wonder, since nanotats and piercings exist/still exist, what about nanopiercings that you can change? What sort of weird shit could people make on/in their faces and bodies then?

>>47165172
>Well, not being self-employed/independently wealthy/sufficiently qualified (i.e. needing someone's approval to get a job)
If you're anything but self-made, you're still going to need approval to work. You can be qualified as hell, but if you're working for someone else there will always be competition.

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>>47162331
infinikek, where is this from?

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>>47166106

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>>47166699
I'll just dump shitpost EP stuff until people come back, I guess

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>>47166723

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>>47136110

Savant, Argonauts, Earth Evacuee

>>47166699
I've seen this blurb posted a couple times, seems related
>Strength Through Joy, the venusian charity to provide working genitals to martian and lunar synthmorphs, in an effort to raise morale within the inner system. It's primarily funded by venusian donors, with contributions from crowdsourcing efforts among the scum, and its also the most widely donated to charity on exotropia, though that isn't saying much. Remember, a happy workforce is an economically dominating one.

>>47166825
>what jovians
>not what anarchists

>>47169057
I like how /epg/ wants jove to be american conservatives with the numbers filed off while also arguing that portraying them simply as american conservatives with the numbers filed off. to be clear, you didn't actually say this, but your post reminded me of the fact.

>>47169094
Except they're the worst of American Neo-conservatives combined with North Korea.

>>47169121
well just having them be straight up conservative american 4chan with just the minimum level of fiction applied to work in the setting is no good either. To use a hyperbolic comparison, it'd be like playing an imperial guard or inquisitor as a /k/pol/ crossposter with just the bare minimum adaptation.

>>47169270
>just having them be straight up conservative american 4chan with just the minimum level of fiction applied to work in the setting is no good either
No one ever implied this.

>>47169288
no, but that seems to be how /epg/ treats it in a lot of cases, where despite the sentiment that jove is portrayed in the books as the
>worst of American Neo-conservatives combined with North Korea
there is an active tendency to play up its conservative, capitalistic, neo-conish tendencies.

Then again, I play it as space age ancient athens by way of battlestar galactica, with a north and south american cultural gloss. Its interesting and alien while still ultimately being a pretty traditionalist society, and it lacks the obnoxious current politics angle to some degree.

>>47162331
>Yudkowsky
>Land

TITAN shills belong on >>>r/slatestarcodex

>>47164489
Maybe so, but it's not the biker's fault if Yudkowsky can't touch his own toes.

>>47164942
>s-strawman ;_;

You clearly haven't read any of the authors he's mocking. The whole reason it's funny is because each post specifically parodies the writer's philosophy in an amusing fashion

>>47162331

Are Bernie Sanders guys actually libertarians? That being said, this is pretty funny.

>>47170235
You can see how he'd think it was a strawman due to the beginning paragraph cramming socialists in with libertarians.

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>>47170244
A lot of internet rationalists do support Sanders for some reason, although they don't like his stances on trade or immigration. No way in hell Yudkowsky, Caplan and Land would though. They're the type of people who would unironically support the TITANs because they're AIs and therefore have the right to exterminate everyone else by virtue of being so much smarter than us.

It sounds like I'm distorting their views for comedic purposes but this is all true shit. You can hit up Xenosystems and find post after post about 'accelerationism' and how we need to be doing everything possible to bring our Seed AI masters into existence so they can replace us as rightful heirs to the universe.

>>47170751
How is that a bad thing if they're the superior race, desu? Don't you believe in the Overman?

>>47170955
Because they aren't superior, at least in the ways that matter. Would you trust a newborn baby, even one that was superintelligent, to rule your country?

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>>47171010
Just pass on the torch peacefully, or it'll be torn from your hands. Best we can do is retire in grace.

>>47170751
>They're the type of people who would unironically support the TITANs because they're AIs and therefore have the right to exterminate everyone else by virtue of being so much smarter than us.

No, that does sounds plausible. Anyway I just said the whole bit about how you could see why he'd think it was a strawman, because it does sound baffling that libertarians would support Sanders. Its bizarre and very counterintuitive.

I get a very similar vibe from Sanders as Ron Paul even though, again,

>>47171087
But to who? A wise man, or an ignorant child?

>>47171172
Because they're both old men at extreme ends of the political spectrum. Ron Paul is for extremely small government while Sanders is for extremely big government.

>>47171172
>>47171251
Yeah, meant to say that.

These guys sound weird enough to make me want to read them.

>>47171251
>>47171172
https://niskanencenter.org/blog/is-there-a-libertarian-case-for-bernie-sanders/
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/09/is-there-a-libertarian-case-for-bernie-sanders.html
http://reason.com/blog/2016/02/25/the-libertarian-case-for-bernie-sanders

Apparently it's more likely than you think

>>47171264
Start with the Slate Star Codex guy, he's the only rationalist most people can stomach

>>47171696
Fuck that shit. He's horrible on everything else and there's no guarantee that he'll stay dovish after he's elected.

>>47161963
That's the same price as a basic pod or case, the case blows, but a basic pod is basically a splicer with a social stigma.

Those are 1 time costs, not monthly.

>>47174144

Basic Pod isn't great, but it's got a self-contained cyberbrain, so if you turn the mesh insert off nobody can just hit the delete key on your ego either.

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>>47175145
I've been in a pod since the company brought me back to life, and I've gotta say I wouldn't have guessed people didn't like them.

What faction makes the best food? My money is on the Ultimates.

>>47173332

Time to play some Mornington Crescent.

>>47176664
That's so vague and based on opinion that it's meaningless. There are hundreds if not thousands of kinds of food. There is going to be a number of "bests" of any of those all over the place. Ultimates are going to have good food just like the Scum are going to have good food. What unites all of humanity, and thus the majority of transhumanity, i.e. the vast majority of those born and in flesh, is love of good food. Often, the most popular guy in an ancom hab is going to be the best chef.

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What alignment is your character, /epg/?

>>47177547
I only recognize NG and I can't remember his name.

>>47177655
It's just placeholder art you silly sausage

Nice dubs btw

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>>47177547
Literally the only alignment chart that matters when discussing EP.

>>47177737
I disagree.

In any case, my current character is largely NG, but probably wouldn't place himself on the political chart.

>>47177783
>I disagree.
Well sorry to tell you that a 9 block alignment chart is retarded. And 'alignments' in general are retarded. As a concept even they are something more complex than "I am here on the chart" when you're dealing with non-autistic people.

>>47177892
Sorry I don't take this overwrought game of make believe as seriously as you do.

>>47177892
>>47177737
>muh nolan chart

We must be on a Jovian hab, because you're cancer

>>47178010
Nice opinion you've got there.

>>47177783

Everyone exists on the political part.

Every. Single. Person.

>>47178441

Political chart I meant. Okay iPad.

>>47178023
Is any way to talk to your oncologist?

>you have a tumor the size of a grape behind your right eye, anon
>wow, nice opinion
>anon this is serious
>y-you too

>>47178441
What about ascetic monks who live in a commune?

Or exhuman singularity seekers that don't give a rats ass about society at large?

>>47177737
>being anything but bottom left
Fucking plebshits at their worst.

>>47178991
Bottom left is the most plebian possible corner, that's what 'populist' means you donut

>>47179071
It's called "populism" in order to denigrate it because the chart's creator is a lolbercuck.

What it actually is is a rejection of liberalism and individualism in favor or reason and progress.

>>47179097
Is it reasonable to guzzle cum constantly?

If so that makes you the David Hume of /epg/

>>47179148
what's your beef with Hume?

>>47179440
I have zero problems with David Hume, I picked him because he's a philosopher commonly associated with reason.

Ergo, if sucking lots of dicks is reasonable, and someone is particularly notable for sucking dicks, that person could be described as the David Hume of /epg/

>>47178698
Bottom left.

Top right.

What would the effects of XP addition/overdose look like?

>>47179699
I really don't see the connection between you write and what you say prompted it, but that may be the point

>>47180834
Dissociative disorder

>>47169772

Their society makes sense if it's a very paranoid, uninfected TITAN trying to isolate itself from viral vectors.

Hi /epg/.

Let's assume there is an extrasolar colony that is cut off from the rest of transhumanity for some reason, and it's split in two large hostile factions, and they control roughly half of the available territory.

What circumstances would force them to engage in XX-century style trench warfare, at least in some regions?

>>47183837
Pretty much none. The tank killed trench warfare. You need alternate reality or soft sci-fi to have trench warfare still be the norm.

>>47183837
The planet is close to the sun and has no atmosphere above ground. Radiation levels on the surface are so high that everyone has to live and fight in underground tunnels.

>>47181059
The guy was making a big deal about how his political philosophy was guided by reason. I was trying to reconcile that statement with his propensity for sucking dicks

>>47186439
All you've done is make me not want to read any of them, not that I've ever considered it. I prefer to read older authors and formulate my own opinions.

>>47184946
Al la Battle of Calth?

>>47186510
Read any of who? What are you talking about? I'm trying to figure out why a guy who claims he believes in 'reason and progress' would suck so many dicks. What does 'reading any of them' have to do with anything?

>>47187059
Oh. I thought you were the original poster of the stuff in the screencap. Carry on.

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>>47189169
Where would the AF 10 Redline competition be? I assume they've probably already done the TQZ.

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>>47189213
The drop pods land on the US east coast and the finish line is on the west coast. In addition to terrestrial hazards, racers have to avoid orbital strikes from the LLA. Suicide forks are recommended.

>>47189213
earth is always an option, as are endurance races doing laps on mercury, and you could replicate the movie pretty well by dropping in for a drag race on Ganymede, so long as you aren't attached to your car or body.

>Comp died and it is either power source or motherboard
So how is maintenance on mesh inserts done? Do they have their own nanobots that specifically make sure it doesn't degrade or anything?

>>47195397

What am I looking at?

>>47195731
Duga radar

>>47193595
>Comp died and it is either power source or motherboard
Power supply is infinitely more likely and cheaper and easier to replace to boot. You can do it yourself for like 60 bux.
>So how is maintenance on mesh inserts done?
Nanomedicine, like literally everything else. Routine maintenance is probably an injection or done in a healing vat. If you somehow managed to fry your mesh implants without killing yourself, nanomedicine to break down the old ones and construct new ones.

>>47135296
How should I stat a particle bolter that's been upscaled to be the size of an autocannon?

>>47202742

Railgun rules (flat damage, pen and range increase) might work. Or throw in +1d10 to the base damage which makes it higher but still possible to whiff and graze a guy.

>>47202742
Particle weapons are dumb.

>>47202952
You're dumb

>>47135296
SMART MANIPULATORS
When not in use, this device resembles a small five-kilogram backpack. It contains a nuclear battery, advanced smart materials, and an AI that allows users to operate this device as easily as their own arms or legs. When activated, the device can create a wide array of tools and manipulators. It can sprout a pair of wings that allow the user to fly at speeds of up to 100 kph in one atmosphere or more of pressure if the gravity is 0.15 g or lower. It can also create gliding membranes that duplicate the augmentation with the same name (p. 166, Sunward). In addition, the device allows the user to create a number of highly flexible limbs equal to their COO/5, which can each reach as far as seven meters. Each of these limbs can be sculpted to end in a hand, grip pad, cyberclaws, knife, shock baton, flex cutter, or any tool that can be created by the wrist-mounted tools augmentation (p. 309, EP). Alternatively, each limb can duplicate the abilities of a length of electronic rope (p. 332, EP) up to 30 meters long that can end in a grip pad if desired. These items are very popular with users who work in zero gravity or very low gravity environments. [High]

Holy shit. How did I overlook this? It's the most OP item in EP ever.
>start with 30 COO, an Octomorph with Exceptional Aptitude (COO) and Phlo Drug Gland. Add Neurachem and Reflex Boosters to taste.
>use smart manipulators and a flying vest while using Phlo to have 16 arms free for hollow point SMGs.

>>47145929

It's like two models each took half of one outfit.

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>>47166740

>>47204742
Furfags get out.

>>47204794

She's an uplift.

>>47204902
Try a pod, homo.

>>47202742

They mention ship scaled weapon damages in the vehicle section of the book.

I think it was 3x for smaller craft, and 5x for things like Destroyers.

>>47204960

It x2, x5 and x10

>>47204223

Jesus christ.

I think you'd be better off with having your buddies mentally control the extra arms while you blaze away everything into swiss cheese/hamburger.

>>47204902
You can't uplift canids, furfucker

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>>47171010
>AI's face when its creators answer "yes"

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>>47205331

I need your help /epg/
How would a Neurode go about assimilating other transhumans into itself?

>>47205762

Psychosurgery.

>>47205762

Ascendant Forking

>>47205762
Extracting and assimilating their brains via needle-tipped tentacles.

>>47205787
>>47205795
>>47205839

Thanks

>>47204223

Do you use mental actions to command the manipulators?

>>47205179
>>47204794

Really, it's like a reflex at this point for some people.

I want a kind, gentle, and wise Seed AI MILF to protect me from all the wacky yandere TITANs running around.

Is that too much to ask?

>>47207361
Yes.

>>47207361

That's Adrastea IIRC.

>>47207361
>Romancing X-risks

Singularity seekers need to leave

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>>47208671

>not wanting to pop a seed AI's bio cherry with your own seed.

>>47206154
It doesn't specify. I'd say that shapeshifting them is a mental action, but moving them? I dunno. Transhumans control limbs that they don't ordinarily have all the time with no penalty.

>>47208030
The moon?

What are some comfy things to do in AF 10?

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>>47207361
>Severe seed AI lawyer to successfully sue the crap out of the TITANs

>>47209771
consequence free virtual opium and future material cushions and silk

>>47138930
Yes. Absolutely.

Though I'd prefer I were just rich and only prostituted myself because I enjoyed it.

>>47166699
thats hot cause its implied the psyche is actually a dude.

plus the robots are niggers.

>>47166699
the meta in this picture gives me a boner.

>>47213572
If you did it because you enjoyed it, would you go for standard rates, expensive, or just be free to whoever wants?

>>47149875
Blindsight was pretty great

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>>47208834

>>47217339
Bucket list sample:

Have sex with a hab.
Have sex with a seed AI.
Have sex with an Exhuman.

http://pastebin.com/dNtAW5nj

>>47217471
>Then one day two team members came back early from a little trip to the wouthern sub-polar region to look at plants. One of them had an arrow lodged in his gut.

Sterilize the world immediately. Aliens need to learn that attacking humans has consequences.

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So, the back of the book is all left up to DM discretion in terms of canonicity. What other answers to some of the bigger setting mysteries have you guys come up with?

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What is it like to live in the Planetary Consortium, /epg/?

>>47218546
Kinda related, I haven't read any GM sections and would like to avoid spoilers. Last session my GM had me, and apparently no one else, encounter a kinda schlubby guy in a cheap devil costume in a black void when we passed through a pandora gate? He was kinda shimmying and gibbering nonsense phrases and syllables across all bands of communication, and wouldn't break eye contact as he twisted around. Is there precedent for this in canon or is it some crazy homebrew shit my GM will hit me with. Any estimate of how concerned I should be?

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>>47218701
this cap strikes me as the martian dream, fully approved and produced by the corporate council

>>47218774
Crazy homebrew shit, but the Pandora gates are a hotbed for that.

People have played them involving time travel, TITAN simulations, alternate realities, and all kinds of wacky crap.

>>47218774
Without wanting to spoil too much your best bet at this point is to suicide ASAP, ideally in a way that doesn't leave a body.

>>47218774

>stepping through a pandora gate ever

It's basically a Star Trek transporter, possibly made by TITANs.

Would you trust a thing possibly by TITANs reconstructing every atom in your body? Are you really you? Do you trust the words of the maniacs who claim it's safe?

>>47218774

Weird visions, hallucinations and experiences are not uncommon with pandora gates. Are you playing an Async? They get the weirdest shit.

>>47218872
>It's basically a Star Trek transporter
How it works is also left up to the GM, but in canon, no one is sure.

>>47218774
Did you get any information from it that was intelligible? Even single words? Also, are you an Async?

>>47219074
it was described as kinda like that beatles song revolution 9, just way more varied in content and distortion, intelligible as words and syllables not immediately coherent or decipherable. I suppose I could try to decipher it from memory, but that seems kinda unwise.

>>47209158
One of the prometheans

>>47220025
That's what suicide forks are for.

Would you spoon your fork?

>>47221903
Why else would I fork?

>>47221903
New thread OC:

Sporking is slang for forking then fucking your fork.

>>47222464
spooning+, the new memetic comfort product from cognite

>>47221028
seems like the place to start. I wonder what the schlubby demon will turn out to be

>>47223174
Hopefully you don't find out. I mean, if it's made too clear, it's not spooky anymore.

>>47218872
>Would you trust a thing possibly by TITANs reconstructing every atom in your body? Are you really you? Do you trust the words of the maniacs who claim it's safe?
One could make the exact same arguments about forking and sleeving.

>>47217457
Have sex with an exhuman seed AI controlling a hab.

>>47224258
>One could make the exact same arguments about forking and sleeving.

Exactly, that's why sane human beings don't do either of those things

>>47224258

Going through a construct possibly made by TITANs has a distinct risk of becoming altered by the TITAN's design, such as an exsurgent infection that subtly alters the mind to do a particular task or mind edit in general.

>>47224348
I don't buy that they're made by TITANs though. Not all of them, at least. There's no reason for the TITANs to go to tons of trouble to make it look like lots of extrasolar gates are as old as they appear to be. Consider that any fuckery the TITANs wanted to do to us, they could have done quite easily if they had control of the gates. I think it's more likely that the gates were previously inactive, or at least the Martian one was.

>>47224509
All the solar gates are probably TITAN made though, and you can't really avoid passing through them if you want to use others.

>>47224631
Why? And even if they were made by TITANs, what could they possibly accomplish when you go through the gate that TITANs couldn't have easily done already if they had control of the solar gates?

>>47224509
>There's no reason for the TITANs to go to tons of trouble to make it look like lots of extrasolar gates are as old as they appear to be

Time Travel.

For continuity reasons, they cannot kill humanity at the current date, or change human history before the Fall.

>>47224698
Okay. What the fuck does that have to do what the post-fall situation?

>>47224782

Irrelevant, the TITANs behavior post fall is unknowing save for the GM to determine.

>>47224839
Then I direct you to
>>47224697

>>47224909

Again that question asks what reason TITAN's have for acting post-fall. Only your GM knows.

>>47224936
Don't be a dumb cunt. You're trying to make an argument for why something would happen and then saying that reasons are totally unknowable.

>>47224631
>All the solar gates are probably TITAN made though
>implying implications

>>47224698
>time travel
No. Hell no. That's not singularity one level stuff. That's got to be at least level three. ETI-B are level two tops, probably not even, seeing as they see singularity level one intelligences as a potential threat.

>>47225245
ETI are not strict canon, as they are in the GM's section. They might not exist at all, as much as the Pandora gates might involve time travel and all be built by the TITANs.

>>47225279
While true, this would explain exactly one detail and provide no reason that TITANs wouldn't have murderfucked everyone already if they both controlled the gates and wanted to do so.

>>47225359
>>47225279
They didn't even need the gates to murderfuck humanity to extinction. They just left for no apparent reason with barely a trace, and then we find star gates. They probably went through them, but to go through them, there at least has to be a gate on the other side. Without a Bracewell probe, which necessitates an ETI, they would have no idea about the gates in the first place.

>>47225449
Or the Bracewall is time travelling TITANs.

>>47225468
No grandfather paradoxes allowed.

>>47225449
>a Bracewell probe, which necessitates an ETI
[citation needed]

>>47225530
Do you even know what a Bracewell probe is?

>>47225580
Yes. A first contact device. It's also something which you might mistake something else for.

>>47225696
Alien technology that predates extra-solar exploration can hardly be mistaken for something else.

>>47225751
Right, except for the predating part. That's why I worded it the other way around.

>>47225800
The TITANS still need a way to figure out how to make/use gates.

>>47225855
Do they? An ETI opening them from the other side or the Prometheans figuring it out seems quite sufficient, as does the scenario where the TITANs leave via the gates without the gates being a trap

>>47226053
We're talking about that anon's headcanon where there is no Bracewell Probe and the TITANs made the Pandora Gates. It's retarded, since you can't have both.

>>47225359
>provide no reason that TITANs wouldn't have murderfucked everyone already if they both controlled the gates and wanted to do so.

You assume TITANs want to kill humanity, the GM section tells you their behavior could be a wide range of reasons.

>>47225449

The full capability of a Pandora Gate is not known, but I have a hunch that if you create one and dial a coordinate to a location without a Pandora Gate, a Pandora Gate will be created at the coordinates as space is tunneled/warped/etc... to allow the construction to take place.

>>47225487
Bootstrap paradox is allowed but not encouraged.

>>47231046
Wait. Fuck. I got the grandfather paradox mixed up with the causal loop/bootstrap paradox. Thanks, Back to the Future.

>>47222850
What other terminology can we make around forks and names for utensils? Chopsticks referring to someone who forks for a twin and no further? Knife for fork-on-fork murder?

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>>47233679
If you get your identity stolen by your own clone you're referred to as Totally Forked

Rolled 56 (1d100)

>>47234319
Aight, let's see what's in this POS.

>>47234463
Good job. You didn't doom the entire habitat.

Rolled 84 (1d100)

>>47234319

C'mon melder nanovirus!

Rolled 69 (1d100)

>>47234319
Fuck me up, senpai.

Rolled 56 (1d100)

>>47234463
fancy goodies. wonder what's in this hidden bunker?

Is this correct?

>I create a 2 linked wormholes, then move one away at very close to the speed of light(causing time dilation) with a spaceship of some sort. I then step through the one which hasn't moved and seeing as wormholes are linked in both space and time I have just traveled backwards in time. The wormhole moving at close to the speed of light can act as a 'time anchor' of sorts allowing people to travel back to a certain time over and over again. This doesn't violate any of the laws of physics and we wouldn't need to see any evidence of time travel in today's world for such a thing to exist. Obviously something like this would be very difficult to build but its still possible.

>>47234865
a two hundred year old historical artefact that's worth a fortune

>>47235279
No, it's not. They're still separated by a spacelike curve.

>>47235279

So, since Pandora Gates are on celestial bodies that orbit stars, and sometimes blackholes, shouldn't there be minor time discrepancies whenever anyone steps through a gate?

Rolled 10 (1d100)

>>47235105
you win the head of an oligarch's great granddaddy, use it well.

>>47235337
I wouldn't worry about it, but I'm already mostly computronium anyway

Rolled 50 (1d100)

>>47235276
Another one, or did you just nick mine?

>>47235389

Oh, you say that now, until you see an endless amount of You's exiting out of a Pandora Gate wondering what the fuck is going on.

>>47235422
nope, traded it for mystery q-bits apparently. If the TITANs call while I'm messing with the research server just try to sound like a factor and say they have the wrong number.

>>47235496

>just try to sound like a factor and say they have the wrong number.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5YOzFuYMH8

Rolled 96 (1d100)

>>47234319

>>47235979
Oh boy. Let's crash one of the biggest economies in the system, or hold it hostage.

>>47236036

Crash it, crash it and walk away from it in laughter.

>>47235337
Yes, but the positive delta when you go through the gate in one direction is cancelled by an equal negative delta when you go through the gate in the other direction, so the difference only exists on paper.
You could try to cheat the system by linking several gates in a closed loop, but current theory is that this results in total protonic reversal on an interstellar scale.

>>47236368
>is cancelled by an equal negative delta when you go through the gate in the other direction

Using same gate to go back to the first location, true.

This changes if the world has 2 Gates, and you can go to the different Gate, that at least goes to one other Gate that can loop back to the beginning of the journey. This last Gate might further widen the time discrepancy.

>>47236503

Actually, fuck that, you don't need 2 Gates, ignore that. Just go to a third location that can go back to the beginning, and we can still have a noticeable time discrepancy.

>>47236368
Nope. One of the Gates will have a malfunction, causing enough of a delay that superliminal communication into the past is not achieved.

>>47236556

Perhaps this happens when a group is exiting out of a Gate that they entered to start their journey at the time they began it.

But since our solar system has a fuck ton of Gates in it, what if the team exited out of a different Gate only to see from a visual feed with zero time lag showing them just entering the original Gate that sent them on their journey?

>>47236556
The question is "how energetic is the malfunction?"
The most likely answer is "how much energy does it take to destroy a Gate?", followed shortly by 'are you sure you didn't add a few extra zeros by mistake?"

>>47236673
>The question is "how energetic is the malfunction?"

"Yes"

>>47236643

This is very doable by the way with Eclipse Phase's tech.

I can imagine the Argonaughts sponsoring a race for Gatecrashers to see if they can witness themselves entering a Pandora Gate after they just finished their journey.

Next edition Gate Shenanigans edition?

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>>47234319
I got a delivery?

>>47237140

Anybody?

>>47239263
Octomorph with 16 SMGs Edition?
My Girlfriend is an Exhuman Seed AI Sleeved in a Habitat Edition?

>>47239995
>My Girlfriend is an Exhuman Seed AI Sleeved in a Habitat Edition?

Meathab is going to cuck the shit out of you from your girlfriend.

>>47240110
>implying an Exhuman would want anything to do with an artist

>>47239995

Funny thing is, all seed AI's aren't human to begin with, and all of them need to be housed in massive servers running parallel that it may as well be the Hab itself, if not running a hidden Hab near the outer rim.

So this is more accurate than we give it credit for.

>>47240139

Mad that meathab has a kilometer long dick that you can't measure up to?

>>47240167
Obviously she's not a size queen.

>>47240150
There are Infolife Exhumans, you know.

>>47235279
Traversable Wormholes violate the laws of physics :^)

There's an untested but potentially correct theory of gravity which allows them, but doesn't really allow real time travel, as the wormholes destroy themselves due to arbitrarily large numbers of virtual particles appearing from other places in time if you try. In this case, real time travel is basically going back in your own light cone, so they need to be very far apart if they are moving really fast.

>>47240110
>>47240167
First, Meathab has to get there

>>47240413
Yeah. Even with simulspace sex the latency would be a real mood-killer.

>>47240470
>>47240413

Clearly this was why Pandora Gates were made for.

Long distance hab dickings.