Warhammer 40k general.

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Postin this for those who want more interesting battlefields

How do I play Sisters of Battle above a 1k point-level?

>>47064448
DISCUSS THIS! *TELEPORTS BEHIND YOU* 'NOTHIN PERSONNEL KID' "HMMPH". *SLICES YOUR HEAD OFF* *SWOOSH WOOSH, SHEATHHHHS KATANA* Tip

>>47064516
You dun goofed

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>>47064533
>mfw I can't tell if Eldar or Farsight

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>>47064542
Yes I did goofed, here is fix

>>47064516
A 3kb jpeg?

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>>47064516

>>47064550
Eldar. Tau don't have teleportation tech. Must be an Autarch with a Warp Spider pack.

>>47064523
The same way you did at below 1k.
Exorcists and more melta spam then the opponent can deal with.
Also dead hurty DCA squads.

Necron player here. Is Abbadon and his Terminator squad worth it for a melee punch? I don't like the aesthetic of Wraiths, and they're Allies of Convenience.

>>47064448
Who are the guys in the top left and right corners?

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>>47064550

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>Orks are a melee race!

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>>47064533
>*engaging reanimation protocols*
>foolish, feeble and insignificant you dare to rise against the Necrontir.

>>47064628
Or an exarch with powerblades.

>>47064533
fuck off. this thread is for serious warhammers 40k discussion.

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>>47064533

>>47064635
No.

You'd honestly be better off with lychguard.

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>>47064698
>this thread is for serious warhammers 40k discussion.

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>>47064628
>>47064644
I was almost certain that it was an Elf, but I was unsure if Tau had teleportation yet. Still an offensive sight to the Imperator Titan.
>be an Imperator Titan
>you're older than the Imperium
>see Eldar wanking off to their wraith everything
>have to spend hours trying to murder the jumping wraithknight
>now see Tau jerking off to their battlesuits
>you just want to sleep

>>47064635
Abbadon will destroy anything he gets into melee with. The Terminators suck hard, and you have no way to actually get them to melee.

>>47064635
If you really want CSM, go for a Khorne lord on a juggernaut or a Nurgle lord on a bike, and give them a biker retinue. That might do something, maybe.

I don't see why you'd bother when Lychguard are so cool though.

>>47064698
holy shit
is that a bait or something?

Is Farsight useable as an HQ choice without having to make him a bomb?

>>47064752
Well, actually, I lied. Abbadon will destroy anything that doesn't have AP 2 at initiative in melee. Five wolfen with AP2 weapons will always kill him, for instance.

>>47064799
Sure. You can do whatever with him. Stick him in a squad of vespid and use their speed to help slingshot him into CC

Stop forgetting the novel link. REEEE.

>Novels (Working link as of 02/02/2016)
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q

>>47064533
When I saw the Banshee unsheeth her sword in the DoW3 trailer I thought this.

>>47064747
>>47064770
This is what you call a 'joke'. It is a rare and elusive thing. Especially in the world of Autism that is 4chan.

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>>47064533

>>47064866
>More Knight bullshit
>Eldar, Orks, Marines as the only races

why even bother buying it

>>47064523
With great difficulty

>>47064890
>only races seen so far

>>47064861
>This is what 4chan calls a 'joke'. A common pest whose mangled copses litter the ground as their deformed limbs cannot carry them

>>47064919
Preach it brother.

>>47064900
>Very specifically only a three race campaign

necrons or nids might show up to get jobbed on as enemy only, but that'll be it

>>47064835
>vespid
>help slingshot him into CC

Huh, how does that work?

Is it a good army build/ tactic to focus on footslugging renegade platoon squads when playing Renegades and heretics?

>>47064942
It doesnt.

>>47064890
>>47064900
I'm pretty sure they'll confirm Chaos sooner or later
The trailer has some "hints"
>Skulls and corpeses everywhere
>The skull throne at the end
>The statue of the emperor crumbling down at the start

>>47064890
same reason I bought the first dawn of war

because it's going to be really fucking fun

>>47064931
Is "It's a joke" the new form of "I was only pretending to be retarded".

>>47064967
>new
AHAHAHAHAHA

>>47064942
>Join farsight to vespid
>Farsighted moves up 6", one of the vespid moves 12", the rest move middling distances to keep coherency
>Lead vespid charges into CC
>Everyone gets to move up, inuding Farsight who's super far away

A bit of a weird trick. I was mostly joking with that suggestion, but the sad thing is it wouldn't be too bad.

>>47064995
Pile in moves are only 3", and you have to remain in unit coherency.

Try again.

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>>47064890
>whining about the most iconic races being featured in the game.
Oh woe you.

>>47064866
I think we should replace the loyal knight in the OP image with the upsidedown knight from this.

>>47064995
Doesn't this only work if the Vespid only have to move once to get into CC?

>>47065019
Probably the same IG HFY faggot from last thread.

>>47065019
if only they replaced the orks with tyranids, then it would be a true StarCraft II game. Right now it's like it's trying to be 40k or something. wow.

>>47064890
Orks alone make it worth it. Hell, I'd play a game that featured nothing but orks v orks.

>>47065016
but charge moves are 2d6 and you only need to be 2" away from a squadmate who is in CC. This allows farsight to potentially charge enemies that would normally be out of range for his 6" movement.
He may not end up engaged in combat, but at least he's locked

>>47065016
Then how do you charge anything?

If you charge something 12" away with an assault squad, but can only pile in 3", what do you think happens?

>>47064890
Yeah? Why bother with Dawn of War 1.

Oh, wait, you mean DoW 3? Oh.

>>47065039
You don't need to chain them out until you're ready to charge.

>>47064962
In one of the pictures of gameplay, there is what looks like an Alpha Legion Knight fighting with the bloodravens.

>>47065019
>Most Iconic
>Eldar
>Literally just elves
>Not Tyranids
>Not IG
>Not Chaos

>>47065046
>I'd play a game that featured nothing but orks v orks.
that's because you are an ork player, and ork players inherently have bad taste. they do play orks after all. :^)

>>47065065
I had trouble finding those, sauce please?

>>47065072
>muh tyranids, muh guard, muh chaos
orks, eldar and space marines are the original races

Relic knows. Everyone else can wait their turns.

>>47065049
You only move the total inches shown on the dice. You don't move into base contact because one model got there.

And sure, you can be locked in combat... Just pray the vespid unit doesnt get destroyed and swept before he actually gets to fight.

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>>47065072
Eldar are among the most iconic races of 40k.
The Top 3 are SPESH MUHREENS, ORKS and the ELDAR. They have been part of 40k since the fucking Rogue Trader.
To think differently is just delusion.

>>47064842
Why can't we have the WD link? REEEE.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/tx4hcy4u487pv/WD

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So guys, do you think Macha will finally get laid in DoW III?

>>47065111
if the vespid are 6" ahead of him (which makes sense case 6" move vs 12" move), then you only need to roll 1" more than the distance between the closest vespid and the enemy to get farsight into combat (1" + 3" pile in + 2" engaged distance)

>>47065046
Sad but true. I also play GK and Death Korp so I'm only 33.3% scrub.

>>47065046
>Gorkamorka

>>47065065

>Alpha Legion Knight

Makes me wonder is the Alpha Legion faction that was aligned with Kyras still running amok.

I don't think it said they were destroyed.

>>47065065
Knights aren't owned by the space marines tho? At best it would be a knight household that unfortunately uses the Alpha Legion colours

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>>47065065
>>47065098
He means this and he shoulder pad.

>>47065148
Stop posting your retarded decade old memes.
They weren't funny back then, and sure as hell aren't funny now.

>>47065153
Whoops this was meant for this: >>47065084

>>47065170
The alpha legion under kyras was probably the leftovers of Bale's warband. They probably had some kind of deal with the demon of the maledictum.

I wish retribution was about Gabe so we could have found out some of that shit. At least he's back for 3.

>>47065233

Chaos Warbands don't exactly follow a separation of factions.

You can have anything from Traitor Guard to Renegade Knights and Daemons that all take orders from a Traitor Astartes Chaos Lord.

>>47065235
Yeah...ok
I get what he meant but that's just the family the knight it belongs to, nothing to do with the alpha legion (sadly)

>>47065303
I know. The only nod to Chaos is the fact the bodies end up in what looks like the skull throne. But I just see it as Death being an edgy bitch talking over people who are stuck in a cauldron of war.

>>47064448
Can anybody tell me what the silly face used for the OP in most of these generals is called?

>>47064642
Top left: Renegade Knight.
Top right: Imperial Knight.

>>47065072

>Eldar
>Literally just elves

I don't know why you're upset, you clearly don't even like 40k in the first place.

>Ig are literally just Starship Troopers
>Nids are literally just xenomorphs
>Chaos are literally just spikey marines

So how easy it is to be a faggot?

>>47065029
it'd look out of place

Flipping the knight upside down for a thread or two would be a fine alteration of the meme image, though.

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>>47065332
Dunno, but here is the template.

And another game which won't let ne play as my undead robot faction. I'm 2 edgy 4 normal factions!!1!

>>47065444
>Line from the necron codex in the front

Nigga come on, that trailer is totally the space marine having some kind of fever dream as he dies to a necron harvest.

>>47065476
Necron overlord being the last stand hero they chose also has some meaning.

I don't care though. We got Gabe, Macha and Gorgutz back. Anything else is gravy.

>>47065336
ahh thanks

>I'll never get to play as Jain Zar in a Warhammer game

Well maybe Eternal Crusade, but I mean.

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>>47065476
>Line from the necron codex
What page? Alternatively, which codex?

Orks 7th Edition Update (2016)

Updated: Fixed some bugs, prices, & unit structures. Flash Gitz now have access to Power Choppas for 5 pts; Kaptins can take that or a 'Uge Choppa; Snazzguns returned to Assault 3. Nobz weapon prices fixed. Stormboyz can take 'Eavy Armor @ 3pts ea. Fixed prices of KFF & MFF, & clarified use (bearer's unit, & all other units within 6" of it, get the bonus; 6" from vehicle's hull).

Again, it's a .BSR file that opens with the desktop version of BattleScribe Roster Editor: File -> Import data file.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/g7gu5nz71g9bhno/Orks%20BSR.bsr?dl=0

Feedback welcomed.

>>47065597
sleep tight happy space marine

>>47065476

My first thought was Slaanesh.

>>47065607
I don't think it's assigned to anyone in it.

My girlfriend might be wrong, let me check.

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>>47065560
>Gorgutz
Are you telling me we have confirmation on the glorious 'Ead 'Unter himself?

>>47065657
I've also checked the codex for "darkness", going through all the times it comes up. The quote ain't in there.
>I-it's the gf's fault
Shameful dispray.

>>47065671
Yes. The original trio are back.

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>>47065671
Yup. Gorgutz, Angelos, and Macha are all confirmed, as are three campaigns; one for each faction

>>47065597
GB2YT comment sections.

>>47065687
I'm not sure why she said it's in the codex, but if you do google the quote, it's always tied to that guy about Necrons.

>>47065597
Sleep tight happy space marine

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>>47065598

>Phoenix Lord character action vidya
>Directed by Itsuno

It's my dream.

Speaking of EC, the Scorpion stealth mechanics look surprisingly alright. Between that, DoW3, Death Wing and BFGA it's not a bad time at all for 40k vidya.

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>macha the eternal virgin strikes again

Worst army ever or best army ever?
Typhus
120 zombies
Two renegade knights, one for antitank and one for antiinfantry.

>>47065734
>>47065687

According to the wiki, the quote is from an Imperial Inquisitor in reference to the Necrons.

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Necrons

>>47065815
>more like.. strikes out again.

>>47065817
No.

Iron Priest

50× Heavy bolter servitors with IC

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>>47065815

Will she be competent this time? Her sister was always way more based than her. Here's hoping for Wraith Seer Taldeer.

>>47065817
Neither, scores pretty high on most monotonous ever list though.

>>47065818
>Necron
>darkness

It does not fit. Necrons are not evil.

>>47065874
If you ask the Imperium they are.

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>>47065855
Even if shes overcome her incompetence shes competing with gorgutz and gabriel. Hell of a fucking plate to step up to.

>>47065874
>Necrons are not evil

Nah, they just want to have absolute dominance over the galaxy and consider everyone else lesser to them. Like the Imperium. Or Tau. Or Eldar. Or Dark Eldar. Or Chaos.

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>>47065874
>Necrons are not evil

>>47065874

What the hell kind of shitpost is this? Fuck man. Reading comprehension.

>>47065855
Macha is better by virtue of being part of biel-tan, and thus having an infinitely sexier colourscheme.

>>47065607
Could you please stop being dumb? The only logical place for the quote is the 3th ED dex.

I searched it and found several mentions of Czevak. From him ordering a deathwatch strike on a Necron tomb, to his research helping decipher an Eldar prophecy about the Necrons.

I couldn't find the quote, I might have missed it or it wasn't there.

>>47065855
She's going to be incompetent, since Eldar are an Antagonist Race and her being competent means she wins.

>>47065908
Exactly.
They are as evil as the rest of the races of the galaxy.They are not so extra-evil that they would call them a force of darkness.

Only one faction is refered to as darkness and it is Chaos.

>First game where Blood Ravens are being a normal chapter
Well, aside from the mission to steal the weapon that everyone is looking for.

Where can find full IA:Aero? Not scan of rules, but full book

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>>47065707
Well this is just splendid. Let's hope they bring back some of the old sync kills too, because there are some classics that just cannot be beat.

>>47065989
Are you genuinely so engrained into this out-of-universe viewpoint that you believe the Imperium would not believe everyone else evil? It's a quote from a character within the universe for fuck sake, with his own personal biases and everything. Also yes, the quote was directed at the return of the Necrontyr.

Old crons are evil by any use of the word. Tyranids in robot bodies.

>>47066072
Tyranids don't seek to enslave races and forge empires for their gods.

This is most likely a case of the marketing department not knowing how deeply neck beards read into shit. Some one found a nifty sounding quote that fit the video and dropped it in.

We all know deep down in our heart of hearts that chaos will be revealed to be the Big Bads.

>Tfw dow 3 starts the End Times.

>>47066108
>Big Bads.

BWYM DLC

>>47065996
bump. Help, plz

>>47065933
>stop being dumb, it's logically in this codex
>but I couldn't find it there

>>47066109
DOW 3 is not canon as it happens in 42K.

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>>47066154
Source?

>>47066011
wouldn't be a DoW game without sync kills, man

people would riot

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>>47065918

I'm a Biel-Tan man, but Taldeer's the cooler lady. She was the undisputed sass queen of DoW. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HYidC-zg9Q&ab_channel=BigDickCheney

>>47066149
That would somebody with little understanding of Necron lore would post.

The Oldcron codex was a big dumb of in-verse Admech, Inquisitorial, and Imperial navy documents and records. Several inquisitors are mentioned there including Czevak. In contrast, the 5th ED Newcron codex had like one mention of an inquisitor and the 7th ED had none. Thus the 3th ED codex is the most logical source.

Any Necron player would know this. I revoke your Necron fanboy club card and also your 40K player pass. Get out.

>>47066011

Warp Spider vs enemy commander sync kill and the Avatar vs Great Unclean One are definitely on my wish list for returning classics.

>>47066238
Whats the quote?

>>47066186
-DoW 2 has ravens fighting Leviathan. Leviathan invaded in 997 41K.

-DoW 2 Chaos rising and Ret happen 12+ after the Ravens defeat the nids in the first game.

-997 41K + 12 years

-DoW 3 takes place after DoW 2 series. Add more years.

>>47066277
"There is a terrible darkness descending upon the galaxy, and we shall not see it ended in our lifetimes."

— Inquisitor Bronislaw Czevak at the Conclave of Har

>>47066356
Could be from one of his books, like atlas infernal or the short stories.

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Is my eyes playing tricks on me or are tubes on one of the skulls under the Banshee helmet. Reminds me of Culexus's Animus Speculum a little.

So, I've found a guy who sells a box of 12 Necron Warriors and 3 Canoptek Scarabs for 20€ (Bought it for himself at 30€, doesn't have the room for it anymore).
The box is still in plastic.
I'd like to buy me some small army of plastic men/robots, but have no experience in painting and the closest FLG is about an hour away. Is it worth it?

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>>47066514

So how much damage can a Helbrute Mayhem Pack or Murderpack do to things like Knights, Wraith Knights or Storm Surges?

>>47066538
That is one fucking ambitious marine

>>47066538
You know, stopping a charging dreadnought in its tracks with just a chainsword is pretty impressive.

>>47066509
check the WIP thread for some tutorials on painting. Most people in Europe are in a gaming club that meets every so often to play, so look into play groups in your area

>>47066538
Is there any way for a marine to get a +2 strength bonus on the charge?
Hammer hand is all I can think of.

>>47066591
>the deffdread throws its foot forward to halt momentem

Pretty sure he just wanted to squishy the 'umie

>>47066605
Alright, thanks anon.

>>47066538
Fucking Creative Assembly and their unrealistic charge impact physics.

>>47066615
He's using two hands. Maybe he's an assault marine with an evicerator?

>>47066543
Knights and storm surges get stomps, and helbrutes are normal walkers.

On the charge you might pulp/glance something, but the WK will have D something i'm sure.

>>47066657
That sword did look bigger than the average chainsword.

>>47066621
Nah, watch the trailer in ACHE DEE, it's pushing up against the marine even after the impact.

It took him a second to notice the reason he wasn't going forward.

>>47066636
>Creative Assembly

(You)

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So I was wondering. If the Old Ones made the Orks, could it be possible that Gork and Mork are just some ascended god form of the one/two orkiest of Old Ones that originally created them? That the Orks in their collective WAAAGH! ability so strongly believed their creators to be gods, that they actually became gods?

How come there are no apps to aid psychic power generation and management? It seems like keeping a psychic deathstar up and running would be lots of book keeping.

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>>47065360
>Ig are literally just starship troopers
say that to my mask faggot

>>47066668

I mainly meant with shooting.

Helbrutes have access to LasCannons and Missle Launchers so.

>>47066697
The orks know who there creators are(Brain boyz or something) Gork and mork are their own creation that popped into existence because the orks worshipped them and not because of their gestalt field, thats just how warp entities/chaos gods are. Though gorkamorka may not be warp entities so maybe it WAS their gestalt field, who knows.

>>47066697
I have a theory on that. Gork and Mork were the first two warbosses in existence, the Old Ones sent them and to fight, mid-way Crons threw the Orks into black holes, and the WAAGGH energy transformed the black holes into "green holes". The lesser Orks were absorbed into Gork and Mork, and the Old Ones fashioned them into new bodies. After the War in Heaven they went into the Warp looking for a good fight.

>>47065597
sleep tight happy space marine

>>47066771
They lose outright in a shooting match with any of them then.

the creatures might have problems since their armor save is 3+.

>>47066779
Yeah I get that much, but is it possible that maybe they so believed in Gork and Mork, that the original creators became those Old Ones, what with the Old Ones having such a powerful connection to the Warp and all; and the rest of the Old Ones that were just there being relegated to the 'brainboyz'?

>>47066717
i use laminated flash cards for all my chaos daemon powers and psychic abilities otherwise it's a nightmare due to random wargear

>>47066106
If by "enslave and forge empires" you mean "feed them all of the souls, killing all life in the universe" then sure.

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>>47065597
The fallen shall be forever remembered, as the emperor's finest.
Sleep tight happy space marine.

>>47066888

Was just wondering.

I remember seeing Lascannons do a number on the Stormsurge.

>>47066944
This is probably what I'll end up doing. Right now my army only has three psykers and after playing pure DE for so long I keep forgetting to make the most out of my psychic phase.

So I have been getting some help on Reddddddit with my first army and this is the list that I boiled down to (compared to where I started this seems much better). However idk if it is too few models (I know RW is 'elite' so I shouldn't expect a full deployment zone)

HQ:
Techmarine - 110pts
>Bike, Servopack, Power Axe
Interrogator Chaplain - 160pts
>Bike, Mace of Redemption

ELITE:
Ravenwing Command Squad - 295pts
>6 Black Knights, Apothecary, Champion, RW Banner, 1 Grenade Launcher

FAST:
Ravenwing Bike Squad - 115pts
>2 Grav gun, Combi-Grav
Ravenwing Land Speeder - 75pts
>2 Multi-meltas

RAVENWING SUPPORT SQUADRON:
Darkshroud - 80pts
>Heavy Bolter
3 Ravenwing Landspeeders - 165pts
>2 Heavy Bolters on each

1000/1000

I guess the tactic is to group up my HQ, Elite and Formaton and hope the Grav and Melta take care of anything they can't.
Is there anything wrong with this list to start out with?

Does anyone have a Lamenters wallpaper in 1080p? Tried finding one but was unsuccesful, you are my last hope, /tg/.

>>47067240
>the tactic is to group up my HQ, Elite and Formaton

Okay so %80 of your points are tied up in some giant 2+rerollabe jink Deathstar and the other 20% are hoping to do something.
Ask yourself, does that sound cheesey?
I don't think it is unbeatable by any means, especially if you are playing any maelstrom mission but I think its a gimmick that you will grow tired of.
The core unit is extremely strong and will definitely kill a lot but it won't get much done outside that.

Sometimes I wish Centurions could have two heavy flamers.

It would help my love of fire.

Are Daemons a good choise for allies with Renegades and heretics?

>>47067282
This? >>47067216

>>47067360
Yeah, they can do the linebreaking thing while your men hold the line and provide fire support.

>>47066717
I made a handy dandy spreadsheet for my tzeentch daemon army. Generates all my powers for me, including pregenerating powers for summoned units so I can save time there.

>>47067360
>Are Daemons a good choise for allies with Renegades and heretics?
>Daemons
>Renegades and Heretics
>Choice

This isn't even about your misspell but what other choice were you thinking? Orks?

>>47067431
Are orks a bad boise?

>>47066591
>chainsword
looks like an eviscerator. He should have been knocked back more from the impact, though.

>>47067456
If you were to take them youd take them pretty much exclusively for the mek gunz

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>>47067368
Nah Senpai, like a legit wallpaper, something from this kind.

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>>47065084
>Not wanting a Gorkamorka vidya.

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>>47067282

>>47067509
Gorkamorka has humies and mutants too though.

>>47066538

>when you stop a deff dredd in mid-charge but Brother McFuckup with his lascannon is suddenly nowhere to be seen

>>47067487
R&H have access to artillery of the same tier or better than what orks do though. Outwith traktor kannons anyway.

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>>47067554
He's busy

>>47067554
I imagine that is how the assault marines of my friend's army feel whenever he forgets his devastator marines are even on the table.

I'll point it out and he'll just go "Oh well, not like they'd have made a difference."

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>>47067282
Got you covered.

>>47067609
Being a devastator marine must be chill. Just hang out with a few of your buddies smoking and joking in some cover. Maybe pop off a shot or two.

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>>47067240
I would consider the techmarine something of a waste- a lvl2 bike libby is the same price and can do more for you by rolling on divination, new libby-mancy or telepathy.

>>47067597
I'm going to be disappointed if Chaos Space Marines aren't made out of fairy dust in DoW3.

>>47067233
Apply enough lascannons are sure enough, things will die.

The problem's still what happens to be carrying them.

>>47067666
Unless you're in a Skyhammer, then you have to join the big assault with those dudebros from the Assault Company.

>>47066697
This is a pretty common theory, along with the Eldar gods.

What ways do Imperials have of modifying reserve rolls that aren't a comms relay?

I'm looking for something to boost the 4+ of a Talon Strike Force to 3+.

>>47067814
IG officer of the fleet.

>>47067702
Thousand sons?

>>47067840
See >>47067597 It's a joke/semi-headcanon of mine on why the CSM dex is horrible. All Chaos Space Marines are made out of fairy dust.

>>47067667
My understanding is the Techmarine offers more AP2, a Flamer and a fair amount of attacks on a 2+ armour save.

A librarian was discussed though. However relying on randomly generated powers isn't as sure of a thing. Plus I think the tech can always repair an immobile speeder or whathave you.

>>47067879
Well via the Rubric of Ahriman, Thousand Sons are literally dust, so that's one legion down.

>>47067934
Wasn't much of a legion anyway.

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>>47066434

4TH RACE CONFIRMED

>>47067896
A libby can take any force weapon, which includes a power axe.
But I see your point.

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>>47067497
This is all you need.

>>47067934
The Rubrics are regular dust. Nothing magical about it.

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How good is Nurgle to build an army around?

If I have to pick up one other god what would it be?

From my understanding the warp table is the main reason mono god suffers (besides not being optimized) because one back roll can affect your whole army.

Are multiple Start Collecting Nurgles a good way to start an army?

They contain:

A Herald of Nurgle, a set of three Plague Drones, a set of three Nurglings and a set of ten Plaguebearers of Nurgle.

This would be my first army but since Nurgle is "slow" are there any Chaos Space Marine "fast" stuff I could ally in? Preferably under Nurgle's persuasion.

>>47068021
I'm going to laugh if that shop predicts Crons in DoW3.

>>47068069
>If I have to pick up one other god what would it be?
tzeentch, for warp charge generators

plague bearers just ain't that great

>>47068069
Run it as a tallyband and youll do okay. Dont forget the soulgrinders.

Also bit of a shame about epidemius becoming garbage but it is how it is

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>>47068021
Remember this?
>Blood Ravens are "gifted" wargear from Assholetep.
>They found out they couldn't use it.
>They return the Cryptech to him.
>One has a smudge.
>Necrons confirmed for DoWIII.
Funny how things work out huh?

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>>47067012
God dammid anon, I don't need this feelings right now.

>>47068069
Add chaos spawn, they are very fast and great for dealing with anything that isn't a vehicle.
Nurgle daemons can pretty much kill anything, save exceedingly large hordes. But nurgle daemons don't have any shooting, at all. Bring some CSM to support them in that regard.

>>47067240
>>47067667
Battle-Brothers!
How goes the hunt?
Any expectations for the next Wulfen Novel?
What did you think of the first?!


I play Grey Knights, plz no AP2Spam

>>47068109
>Add Necron hero out of nowhere to Last Stand after years without content
>Implying Necrons aren't going to be in DoW3

>>47067835

They work outside their detachment?

>>47068069
Pretty great start yeah, just got to sell on/swap extra heralds depending on how many boxes you get. If you want another god that's somewhat fluffy then slaanesh is what you want for sanic speed.

For CSM nurgle bikers are really good. Can't go wrong with toughness six and some special weapons.

>>47068052
Excuse me? A fucking Sorcererturned his legion into dust that now walk around in animated power armor. How is that not magical? Not disney magical sure, but it's still fucking magic.

>>47068143
Add it as another prediction.

>>47068121
No, I was trying to forget that garbage.

>>47065235
looks awfully mobile-ish

>>47068113
>plague bearers just ain't that great
Nigger what are you smoking

Toughness 4 daemons with a 5++
Poisoned weapons that glance any vehicle on a 6
Auto +2 to cover saves and defensive grenades

All for 9 points per.
Slow, durable (even more so when they gain FNP) and can take an any target.

>>47064448
that pic is getting a little full

>>47068188
Looks like the tabletop models.

>>47068222
What are you talking about? That version is missing the genestealer and that which shall not be named because butthurts will go berserk.

>>47068222
Can we not talk about the picture

>>47068142
I actually played against a GK fellow recently.
In retrospect, every unit I brought had some form of AP2.
I swear it wasn't intentional, I didn't even know what he was playing (or use a Ravenwing Strike Force, I was just playing CAD).

First Wulfen novel was... pretty much what I expected.

For the second I'm hoping we see Deathwing Knights get some love (and they get a formation that lets them charge out of Deep Strike).

>>47068155
>Not disney magical sure,
That was the kind of magic I was talking about.

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>>47066312
Doesn't Dark Crusade take place in 740.M41?

>>47068286
>Deathwing Knights get some love (and they get a formation that lets them charge out of Deep Strike).
My Nigga.
Its all I want.

I fucking love this trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_ZgyNoHtjw
it is a good trailer

Why can't an Ogryn take a Power Maul and a Slab Shield together? That would be way better than their current set up :C

>>47068286
What if shield wall was even better?

>>47068377
I'm painting a squad of them and they're just such fun! Models looks great, potentially awesome rules, very fair deathstar unit... and yet they can't ever engage anything at the moment without a land raider.

>>47068222
Oi. We've had almost a week of little to no shitposting, been cycling through the OP images with no arguing, and we got DoW3. Don't shit up this winning streak now.

>>47068429
How?
Gave rerolls to invun?
That'd be swell but I think I'd prefer the charge out of deep strike.

>>47068446
You trying to start something, chicken lover?

>>47068382
the art style makes my penis feel good

Reminds me of the old RT/early 2e art.

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>>47068142
>How goes the hunt?
Sheeeeeet you know, killin, spillin.

>Any expectations for the next Wulfen Novel?
Some good ol' First Legion Justice on the Heretics

>What did you think of the first?!
I liked it even if we looked a bit foolish. I would love to put a Changling model on a bike and run it as whatever I want.

>>47068213
i played a doubles game earlier this year. my CAD daemons with no nurgle while my partner played incursion nurgle. all game he complained about how slow his plaguebearers were. when they finally made it to combat they were slaughtered due to i3 and running into an inquisition murderball. we won due to points and his flying prince but all those plaguebearers and herald did nothing but take up board space.

>>47068468
I was thinking instead of the +1 to toughness it becomes +2

>>47067240
>2+ rerollable jinking
Man, fuck you

>>47068429
>>47068440
>>47068468
you could make land raiders a little better.

subtracting remainng hull points from vehicle damage table house rule seems to do that well.

I don't understand jinking at all.

>>47067240
>>47068513
>Reddit
>+2 Rerollable jink list

You know what they say about DA being closet gays and all.

>>47068484
So you deep strike the, using icons and instruments to ensure you arrive and don't scatter. I do this all the time, and you can chain deep strike off icons. Slow doesn't matter when you're in the enemies deployment zone.

>>47068513
>>2+ rerollable jinking
Why don't people bring things that ignore cover in their lists anymore? Every army has access to them, hell you can just take the one assassin and on a 4+ remove bikes with it's flamer.

>>47068524
Wait, does that mean glances still deal hull points then? That seems a bit odd.

>>47068513
>>47068549
At the cost of having hardly any models and no objective secured on the board you faggots can deal with it.

>>47068545
If you are in a fast moving vehicle and someone shoots at you then you won't stay straight on course, you will make yourself more difficult to hit.
So at the cost of being more difficult to hit it is harder for you to take aim.

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>>47068571
>Every army has access to them

>>47068494
Hmm that would make us immune to death by lasgun and absurdly resistant to small-arms fire in general. Nice but the fundemental problem with the unit remains- they have a very difficult time getting into an actual fight.

>>47068524
Land raiders also used to be able to be given the deathwing upgrade. It gave them the venerable special rule and hatred (Chaos Space Marines).

>>47068472
Chicken lovers, chicken haters, we've all been getting along. Let's not revive the autsim of days past.

>>47067012
>>47068133
>there is not many
>emperor

Why do people with shit grammar try to make things with words online?

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>>47068604
>Every playable army has access to them
Fixed that for ya!

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Can you fire all weapons during overwatch?
if not how do kataphron destroyers fire their grav and cognis weapons during overwatch, their rule says they can only fire two weapons in the shooting phase

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>>47065597
sleep tight happy space marine

>>47068598
>fielding an army that's as close to unkillable as one can get in this game
>just deal with it lol
As a Tau player its an utter drag to fight these lists. I don't know if other armies even bother.

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>>47065874
>sympathizing with aliens

>>47068585
glaces and pens both remove hull points like normal.

But when you roll on the vehicle damage table you subtract the amound of hull points left after the hit from the roll on the chart.

If you get multiple hits, you roll each pen damage subtracting one hull point each time.

>>47068606
The fix was tanking even more hits

>>47068670
>Tau player
>complaining about cover saves lol
They play the mission like a smart player and win half the time.

>>47068670
aspectdar here, haven't faced it yet, but I just finished painting my second unit of Dark Reapers. Not worried.

>>47068571
Most armies don't have reliable access to AP3 ignores cover. AP 4/5? sure, common enough, but you're still dealing with T5 3+, which is still very reliable

>>47068571
i suppose, in the case of the game they would have been smacked silly regardless of if they deepstriked or walked up the field. i had trouble dealing with the inquisition with a khorne herald and dogs, only won a combat due a prince and bad rolls for the priests/crusaders.

>>47068604
Orks can take them, problem is you can't get too close to them
Then again, the assassin will probably be dead by the time you reach the enemies deployment zone

>>47068670
>Tau player not taking markerlights
What's it like being terrible?

>>47068670
It's an utter drag to get shot off the table, so whatever.

I'd complain less if riptides didn't have AP 2 in close combat.

>>47068740
I can see crisis suit lists taking the dawnblade detachment and no marker lights to tone down their lists

>>47068727
Anything that ignores cover can kill the bikes. You avoid the reroll and the bikes die fast. You don't need ap values, you just need to avoid their cover save.

>>47068727
At 40+ pts per model.

>>47068769
not really, no. It takes a lot of ignores cover.

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>>47068740
>implying I don't take markerlights
My complaint is an army of T5 fast marines is a pain in the ass and boring to fight against, not that I can't beat them or don't know how.

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>>47067012

>>47068769
These guys are still fast T5 with a 3+ and often FNP backing them up, and most armies that aren't Tau or Guard don't have tons of Ignores Cover lying around.

>>47068784
>basic gun is strength 5
>best cover ignore
>the fast and dynamic army is somehow "boring" when your gunline is not

I may never understand Tau players.

>>47068784
I would prefer bike marines to the Drop Pod flavor I have been facing so much lately.

>>47068769
Bikes are still quite durable without jinking. Toughness 5 MEQs have quite a bit of staying power, and it doesn't help that most ignores cover weapons tend to be designed to take out frail units hiding in cover rather than durable ones.

It helps, but a squad of flamers won't solve it.

>>47068828
Huh, my meta is the opposite.

The only marine player who actually uses drop-pods is the qt Polish exchange student the Mechanicus player is banging while the others are spamming bikes like crazy.

>>47068788
Why must i feel for a hollow machine

>>47068788
thank you for your service tank, for what it's worth, I think you're cute

>>47068826
They're a strange breed. Who has that picture?

>>47068858
Then there's the third variant- the [insert colour] Tide double demi-company.

>>47068900
>double demi-company.
Not even once Lion-Senpai, not even once.

>troops
>ever
Gross.

Starting a blood angels army, have a tactical squad.

>veteran sergeant with plasma pistol and power fist

>heavy bolter

>meltagun

I am thinking for the future to have 2 drop pods with missle launchers, carrying an assault squad in one and a furiosa dread in the other. Bikes, mephiston, and a deavestator squad. any suggestions?

Why are so much of the CSM webstore options still marked as unavailable?

>>47068826
>Same army every time
>same tactic every time
>play against it the same way every time
>two things happen
>1: I get first go. Hit the dark shroud with smart missiles, strip cover off the deathstar and shoot it to death until RW player ragequits
>2: He gets first go. Pathfinders get wiped out first under a hail of rocket and bolter fire from the land speeders. Might as well give up here or spend the next three turns chipping away at the deathstar until RW player ragequits

Since he can beat anyone else easily, its all he plays now, despite 7000 points-worth of Greenwing he carries around with him. He refuses to play anything else. Its boring because its the same game every time.

>>47068874
even cuter now that it's sad and covered in mud.

>>47068936
>tfw I enjoy using tactical marines a lot
luckily the only person I play with is a 'Nid player

>>47068813
When I'm facing just Ravenwing with my GK, my incinerators usually do tons of work and it ain't so bad. If he's taking Deathwing though, then I'm usually boned.

>>47068670
>close to unkillable

Because that's the only way to survive against bullshit faglord armies like Tau.

>>47068956
Because even GW is tired of pretending like you shouldn't have switched to Space Marines by now.

>>47068970
>tfw your fetish is 'grimdark'

Reminder that CSM will NEVER EVER have anything nice and their players should just run with the SM codex and its many supplements for every marine chapter in the rainbow.

>>47068958
douchebags are pains to play against. Army doesn't matter, game doesn't even matter.

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>>47068979
Have you tried getting gud?

>>47067551
Expansions. The core game on release would be Orks and more Orks.

>>47069000
What if you just play with your friends from college and nobody cares about winning and just want to push plastic men around while drinking and having pizza?

Is putting a libby in a drop pod with a assault squad a bad idea?

>>47069053
then you are living the fortunate life

>>47068958
I see your point if he always plays with the same strategy. I'm sorry that that is the case.

>>47069020

I did get good, then the Taufags started complaining about my "nigh unkillable" army.

>>47069081
What are you rolling on and does he have a jump pack?

>>47069081

It's a waste of a librarian and 105+ points spent on the assault marines.

>>47069053
still kinda sucks. I play eldar, and even trying to tone down my list it's hard for me to get a game that's not one-sided against my friends CSM.

Fortunetly KDK leads to really fun games against most of my lists. Gets kinda lame if I run all my scatterbikes, but I don't even like to play that many outside of tournaments.

>>47069020
That isn't me you are arguing with now btw, I am with >>47069089 I play my RW pretty differently each mission/deployment. Heck with all the terrain we use each table can change what I can do.

>>47069081
put a 5 man libby conclave with jump packs in an assault squad
don't question it just do it

I'm a new player and was wondering if there's a trick to stopping my pathfinders from being smashed to pieces turn 2

>>47066538
This should be titled "when you have one marine left in a squad and SOMEONE has to eat overwatch".

>>47069155
Thinking about running him with the sanguinry discipline and no his in terminators Armour

>>47069081
You'd be better off with Jump packs and just running them up the board.

>>47069174
Ah, I run a SM list with a heavy focus on tactical marines so my friends all have a decent chance.

>>47069133
>getting good is fielding an army that takes zero skill to play

>>47069000
CSM are suppose to be one of the NPC factions your friends armies have heroic, and one sided, victories against. By choosing to play an NPC faction you are selflessly allowing your friends to have fun by crushing your army even though you tried your best. Even though you never stood a chance, they can feel like like a brilliant tactician because you have it your all.

To play CSM or another NPC faction properly, you must become the anti-thatguy

>>47069242
He should probably not be with assault troops if he's in terminator armour- he won't be able to keep up and will stop them from sweeping in assault. Being a DA player I've never used sanguinary, but I can tell you that divination and the new libomancy are both pretty good. If he's with assault troops though he should have a jump pack.

>>47069227
proper deployment, redundant units, and having enough terrain on the table.

>>47069227
Put them in cover. If you're already doing that, that just means your opponents are smart enough to actually target them.

Consider buyingthem some extra drones to put in front of them and soak up wounds

Its also important to not just put them by themselves. If you have some other guns in close proximity, they may be more cautious approaching.

>>47068841
>>47068813
>>47068783
A bike without it's cover save has a 3+, that's it (normally)
They can roll that, or would you rather them roll a rerollable 2+ cover?

>>47069294
But what if I already play Orks?

>>47069311

Every time I play I make sure they are in cover, they just get targeted first and blown up. I've been tempted to just fuck them off and use drones as at least then I can jetpack them back into cover

>>47069311

Forgot to add they just get shot to shit, the latest trick i've had used against me is barrage weapons so they don't even get cover

>>47069227

You don't take Pathfinders. There are sturdier and better ways to get markerlights.

>>47069317
It is the same for any NPC faction; you must put your opponent's enjoyment before your own, but doing so makes you a good person

>>47069336
>>47069336
this guy >>47069307 here.
Sound like you don't have enough terrain so you can place them where LOS is blocked to at least part of the enemy shooting, you're not running enough units, or you don't have better bait.

Or just use the pathfinders as the bait if you're opponents are so used to focusing them down.

>>47069336

>>47069359
>You don't take Pathfinders. There are sturdier and better ways to get markerlights.

This unfortunately. Pathfinders are T3 5+sv with no way of improving their cover saves for some fucking reason. They'll get blown away the moment the opponent has an opportunity to do so unless he's an idiot. I've had to move on to Marker Drones following a DC Commander around to keep my ML support up, even though I hate that kind of style of play. Other sources are Sky Rays, or, if you're made of money, Tetras.

>>47069394

I might as well, cos anything that has markerlights get's blown the fuck out

>>47069406

I actually have 2 tetras, a friend gave me a bunch of stuff so I have quite a lot considering I'm a new player

>>47069304
Im trying to figure out what to do with him since i pnly have the termie model and hdont have the bits to convert one with a jet pack

How would you combine Tau and Khorne Daemons to get a best-of-both-worlds army?

>>47069428

Forgot to add which book has the rules for Tetras in?

>>47069294
>>47069377
necrons are more NPC faction than orcs or csm, and are somehow far far better, better than IG even.

>>47069336
>>47069355
Does the board have buildings or ruins of any sort? If so, putting them on any floor other than the top should protect them from barrages

>>47069428
>I might as well, cos anything that has markerlights get's blown the fuck out

Tau are a joke without markerlights
>Shooting army
>BS3

>I actually have 2 tetras, a friend gave me a bunch of stuff so I have quite a lot considering I'm a new player

Badass. Start fielding those ASAP.

>>47069433
Deep-strike him in with some terminators?

>>47069449

It's one of the FW books. Just pirate it it's not worth buying.

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>>47069471
>Shooting army
>BS3

>melee army
>i2

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>>47069471
>Shooting army
>BS3

Good enough for humanity, filthy xenos

>>47069495
Heard that termies were terrible so i didnt buy any so i dont have the models im rather new

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>>47069459

I had them on the second floor of ruins, were they not meant to be able to get hit?

>>47069471

>mfw scour

>>47069496

Any idea which one?

>>47069564
Youre playing blood angels so youre already terrible.

>>47069564
Get a regular squad of assault terminators and get a bunch of hammers, or you can try your luck with some Betrayal at Calth Cataphractii.

Roll biomancy on your libby and get smashing.

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>>47069499
Why do you keep posting that over and over again? We see in it nearly every thread.

>>47069436
First step is to run Khorne Daemonkin. Take a good variety of Daemon units, but be sure to deep strike them.

Then on the Tau side focus on anything with an extensive range.

Summon in Daemons while the Tau provide fire support.

Use Pulse carbines and photon grenqdes in order to force pinning and blind tests and allow your daemons to charge unimpeded.