40k general/blood angels thread

Bump this if you see it, i want some opinions.

>>47005049
4th company has black helmets due to getting wrecked by the black legion in an old white dwarf battle report.
Otherwise, some details in white or gold should do the trick. Try it on the pauldron trims and the knee protection. Eventually a vertical band on the helmet, those are easy to do and look prety good IMO.
You ca, also try a nice green if you fancy one particular shade, but I'm not too fond of those.

Btw, devastators are supposed to have blue helmets, assault yellow ones.

>>47005178

Thanks, I'll look into getting some of those paints.

>>47005178
OP, make sure you don't paint the heavy weapons in your tacticals with blue helms. It's only dudes that comprise a dev squad that have blue. Same with assault.

You could try flesh tearers. Simple scheme and they're pretty mean guys.

>>47005335
Sounds good.

when people notice this is the new 40k general they're gonna be pissed about the title and picture
calling it now

dude, flesh tearers

>>47005688

Nah, they'll prolly just start an actual 40k general.

Is the Green Tide still a legal formation?

What's the silliest list you've ever made teegee?

>>47005049
You faggot, you didn't even provide any of the links for a general thread. Take your shit tier pretty angels and throw them in the oven. They are nearly as worthless as you.

>>47006004
ACTUAL NEW GENERAL
>>47006004
ACTUAL NEW GENERAL
>>47006004
ACTUAL NEW GENERAL

>>47005993
no

>>47006024
Made Hypothetically? Or actually assembled and fielded?

>>47006030
What's going on?

>>47006079
People didn't like this thread.
So they make 2 new ones.
>>47006048

>>47005993
I don't believe it is, but I doubt anyone will stop you from fielding it in a friendly game. If you're talking about in a tournament it wasn't going to help you much anyway.

>>47005049
Go back to warseer or whatever shitty forum you use.

>>47006030
This is the general for non-toxic 40k discussion. Go cry about how you hate the new flyer rules and shitpost in the general you just made for no reason.

I have learned something.
do not dedicate 40k general to one army

>>47006024
I always wanted to run a Unbound list with nothing but rhinos.
Like 30 rhinos and nothing else.
>Vroom vroom.

>>47006154
You made more then one mistake "friendo"

>>47005688
Hey, you were right.

>>47006030

>>47006154
It should have been fine. 40k general, for some reason, takes itself very seriously. I for one welcome a different OP image and less formal OP.

Fuck the other thread this real thread now.
>> WHERE MY NEW PLANE LEAKS AT GOT TO GO HIGH AS FUCK IN THAT DOGFIGHT PHASE

>>47006154
Don't make a thread if you are a giant retard AND a newfag.

>wrong image
>no links
>putting extra shit in the title
>no edition

You could have done the links and image right and just made it "blood angels edition" and ask your really dumb questions in the first post.

>>47006195
It's kind of fun jumping between threads and feeling all the butt hurt over one image.

Am I the only one who doesn't actually like Beakies? Except for Johnny.

Going to singlehandedly keep bumping this thread just to spite the other thread. In between checking hhgeneral for real hobby conversion.

>>47006211

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?417606-Flyer-Game-Summer-2016/page8

This is all I can find so far.

>>47006024
I really want to try out that 14 Assassin list. It'd be great to feild 14 T4 guys and nothing else.

Wouldn't expect to win a lot of games though.

>>47006213
Why you so mad though.

>>47006024
>>47006163
I'll play your 30 rhino list with a list of nothing but raiders with shock prows, ramming everything in sight. DESTRUCTION DERBY MOTHERFUCKER.

>>47006024
I've dreamed of making full 10th company scout list, complete with land speeder storms.

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>>47006213
Once again proving why generals are shit.

>>47006228
I like them. I really like the various styles of helmet, and thing they look great mixed. Less cookie cutter and more like 'knights' with individualized armor.

>>47006111

Well I know it had it's problems, but I found it odd that it was left out of the updated WAAAGH! Ghazghkull.

I have to wonder is it an attempt by GW to get players to buy new models by removing the formation and thus forcing them to choose something else.

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>>47006272
True enough! My favorite would probably be Mk. IV, love how it looks.

>>47006335
God that chest plate and helm are fucking sick together.

>>47006253
>DESTRUCTION DERBY MOTHERFUCKER.
That would be beyond awesome.
As long as you didn't bring blasters.

>>47006293
I think it's incompetence more than anything. The Orkurion still requires buckets of boyz. I just don't think there are any Ork fanboys on the design team, and W!G just got phoned in.

>>47006335
They only recently worked out how to do it properly with B@C, most Mk IV minis before that had the anteater mouth that looks stupid.

I'm still hoping for plastic Mk II/III, as then we'd have most of the armour marks covered in plastic (with a bit of swapping of bits between kits).

>>47006335
Which mark has the ridiculous Vader mask?

>>47006369
Finally a situation where running 30pt trukks with rokkits would shine. DT derbies need to be a thing.

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>>47006386
Is it this one? Is so, then V.

>>47006418
Meant to reply to
>>47006368

>>47006418
>>47006438
Would be boss.
>>47006418
>>47006253
>>47006163
If you took lists solely comprised of dedicated transports, who would come out on top?

>>47005688
At least he waited till the old thread was about to die, rather than make it when it could still have gone on for several hours.

>>47006240
Thanks anon.
Once again fuck the other general. Keep this one strong

>>47006423
That's the one.

>>47006213

Links are for newfags. Didn't even have any in the generals until 1 or 2 years ago.

>>47006477
Imperial Guard with Chimeras.

All those variants.

>>47006491
>Keep this one strong
With three 40k Generals, I'm sort of temped to start a 40k General General, to help people sort of which general is which, and have meta commentary about the other threads.

>>47006553
do it up

>>47006335
The B@C kit is awesome. MK IV is awesome.
The newish Space Marines Tacticals and Blood Angels Tacticals are also good sets. A nice amount of Blinged if you water them both together.

>>47006538
Better then Razorbacks? Or immolators? Or cheap as chips Trukks?

So I'm not sure which general is the right one, so I'll just ask here.

What would your thoughts be on letting Tau Stealth Suits take a wider variety of weapons? Would your answer be different if it included multiple stealthsuits getting special weapons instead of just 1 in 3?

>>47006553
I for one am supporting this thread because it started with a dude asking an honest hobby question, for once, and to spit in the faces of sperg lords.

>>47006335
Mk IV is sweet. Definitely my favorite variant. I picked up a Betrayal at Calth box specifically so I could get my hands on enough for a Marine army.

>>47006477
>If you took lists solely comprised of dedicated transports, who would come out on top?
Whoever brings Landraiders.

>>47006228
I dont like them. I have zero beak helmets in my collection.

>>47006553
The other threads have already fallen into arguing about which one is the real one. I don't think we need another one.

>>47006569
Land
Raiders

And immolators don't exist anymore, silly

>>47006569
I think immolators would win in straight up DT on DT violence...
Not counting Eldar . Fuck is there anything they aren't OP at..
Wait Necrons could be good with Ghost Barge broadsides everywhere

>>47006578
>What would your thoughts be on letting Tau Stealth Suits take a wider variety of weapons? Would your answer be different if it included multiple stealthsuits getting special weapons instead of just 1 in 3?
I'm not sure what you're asking. Are you proposing a house rule where stealth suits get access to more special weapons?

I'd personally be opposed Tau are already one of the stronger armies. House-rulings giving Tau more options and versatility doesn't seem like a great idea.

>>47006228
I only really like them when people use them for a specific purpose, like using them for a bird-themed chapter.

Personally, I want to pick up a couple to make some Plague-doctor nurgle marines.

>>47006578

That would make them too good. Cheaper units never get to spam or have multiple specials

See scouts and tactical marines vs devastators

One 18" melta per three on a sneak type squad is plenty.

>>47006613
Truth. I really don't get the nostalgia over those helmets they look retarded.
The 90s Marines looked ridiculous

>>47006648
>>47006656

Yeah, that was basically what I was proposing. Letting Stealth suits swap out their burst cannons for flamers, missiles, etc.

Probably right that it's overkill though. Mostly I just want a way to differentiate my third stealth team from my other two.

>>47006630
Lander radier is 230 right?
Will is stand up against and equal number of points of other things? Like 4 Raiders with blasters? Or 8 Trukks?

>>47006631
>Not counting Eldar . Fuck is there anything they aren't OP at..
>Wait Necrons could be good with Ghost Barge broadsides everywhere
Don't have the codexes so I'm not that familiar with Ghost Barges or Eldar Transports.

>>47006656
Egh. It's still only two or three special weapons on a T 3 squad, no matter their cover save.
I would much rather face a few squads of them who a bolter wounds on 3s Tyan riptide/stormsurge/ whatever spam.

>>47006588
Same here. The 40k generals have become extraordinarily bad over the past ~6 weeks. Almost no genuine content or discussion. At least we have civil attitudes in here.

So I just split a Renegade box with my buddy. The best loadout is two miniguns right? Seems like neither of the other gun options can compare with 24 str 6 ap 3 shots.

>>47006652
>Personally, I want to pick up a couple to make some Plague-doctor nurgle marines.
That sounds pretty awesome.

>>47006708
Eldar Transports typically have front armor 12, good transport capacity, great guns, the ability to jink due to being skimmers, and access to invuln saves.

Downside is they tend to run 100+ points at the lower end, but it is really nice to have a transport option that isn't 'explode if you look at it funny' cheap like a Trukk, or 'so expensive that a single meltagun can change the game' like a landraider

Does the Ork Kill-Krusha Tank make a decent transport?

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>obviously using psychic powers
>immune to nikea because police legion
>kill teamed loyal legion
>acused of mutation to other legion when he was filled with furries fucks
>couldn't even reach Terra on time
>almost killed by terminators
>didn't comply with the edict of Guilliman
>stupidly getting lost
>legion descends to new level of furries
>finally getting what they deserve, being purged by loyal sons
I hope their betrayal to the Imperium is discovered and the thousand sons reivindicated as true loyal sons.

>>47006708
Wave Serpent Spam almost singlehandedly ruined 6th edition.
Ghost Arks can fire their not Egyptian space barges weapons at two different targets and with gauss they glance anything on a 6.
Both are skimmers, and the Wave Serpent is fast.

>>47006213
>>47006195
>>47006165
im not even OP chucklefucks,,,

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>>47006762
There are two other generals that will gladly embrace shitposting. Can we save this one, and have the first decent /40kg/ in weeks?

>>47006740
The only drawback is the loss of a D weapons, which stomps can basically count as...

>>47006839
Hear hear!
Also that Daemon Prince conversion is sick as fuck. Nice job anon

>>47005049
You sound massively underage.

>>47006762
yiffs really are fucking awful

hypocritical furry retards, the whole lot of them

>>47006757
>100+ points.
I think I'd still have to have it to Trukks. The might be fragile, but with S8 shooting and weighing in at only 30pts I think they'd come out on top.

Where's my battlefleet armada senpaitachi at?

>>47006903
oh boy, more unreasonable hate.

>>47006839
Not a fucking chance

>>47006228
I used to hate them but then I realized the regular marine helmet is just a dumb frowny face. So now I like the beakey on tacticool units and fast units.

>>47006708
I would love to play 8 barebones fast rokkits trukks against 1 tough as shit LR. It would be great.

>>47006988
I guess I'm just not a RG fan or something.
Anyone tried out the dog fight phase yet

>>47006934
>implying the SW doesn't deserve al the hate the get
Furry directed

Yiff yiff yiff

>>47007057
Fuck off namefag, you aren't allowed to have opinions, and certainly aren't allowed to have ones if there shit, like your opinions are

>>47007057
i don't think they deserve it. Sure, some chucklefuck had wolf be every other word and made them yiffy, but i still believe they are viking at heart.

>>47007057
oh wait... magnus the red...
alright, i see why you hate the space wolves. sorry for pwning your primarch

>>47006990
It would be a lot of fun. Sort of playing Ogre, 40k edition.

>>47007094
>>47007105
>Yiff yiff yiff BARK BARK BARK
I don't speak wolf you furry fucks

>>47007105
>vikings
>hated wolves
>space wolves are vikings at heart
kek

>>47007177
Fuck off namefag.

>>47007177
meow meow mrow meow?

>>47007208
when you green text make sure it makes sense please

>>47007146
>pwning your primarch
>so shit fighter that Leman Russ aimlessly hit glorious master of mistery and war out off luck
That's nothing to feel proud of you furry fuck

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>>47007246

>>47007243
try learning to read

This thread started off so pure so innocent.
Then the memes came. And the shitposters.
Maybe it's just better for it to die and stay pure, stay golden.
Stay Golden Pony boy.
> Calls for janitor

>>47006762
holy shit, it worked. You derailed it

Which paints do you guys use? I need to restock on most of mine, and citadel is pricey.

>>47007268
nah

>>47007243
>Being this uneducated
>defending the SW
Let me guess, yiff yiff yiff?

>>47007243
Naw it makes sense. Vikings in general didn't like wolves. They often get the role of antagonist in Nordic stories like Fenir.

>>47006740
Probably best option but you only get one chain gun in the box so track another one done somewhere. I see them on ebay at a reasonable price usually

>>47007301
citadel

local shops stock a few brands, but citadel paint is good despite the cost

>>47007329
then put
>vikings hate wolves.

>>47007301
mostly citadel, but some army painter too for colors that my flgs doesn't sell in citadel.

>>47007341
>he doesnt even know how to properly use meme arrows
>trying to tell other people what to do
kek why are you even here sonny, did furrycon get cancelled?

>>47006740
your right, look at this madness

>>47007301
army painter is pretty good.

>>47007341
That would have made it easier yes.
But I understood it.

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>>47007316
>>47007246
>>47007177
>>47007057
>>47006762
Says the coward that had to run BEFORE receiving his judgement or fighting with honor

>daily remainder that Leman Russ was all but impervious to Magnus witchery
Stay mad faggot

We can save this general if we ignore the namefag and talk about hobby stuff! I for one would like to know about Knights as a primary army and power tiers. Will people refuse to play a knight army? People also tell me that they aren't as powerful as they seem.

Grats on choosing the best first founding chapter. It's a shame that our rules are pretty fucking awful.

I would recommend you buying a Furioso Librarian adn a coule of Storm Ravens and Thunder Hammer assault terminators, our BA specific Terminator kit is pretty ballin.

The state ouf our book shouldnt affect you that bad so long as your brother isnt a mewling fuck who likes to power game. Beware of Dark Eldar at lower points values, I've found them to be deadly at lower levels.

A sicaran battletank wouldn't be remiss, I like to pair them with Baal Predators in a sort of hunter-killer formtion.

Of course you can't miss out on the Death Comoany. Grab a chaplain and about 10 Death Company and throw them into either the aforementioned ravens or buy a Land Raider Redeemer.

Again, welcome to the army.

>>47007301
I just use citadel and some of my wife's art acrylics when I'm lacking a color I want. The citadel ones are way way nicer, but I paint slowly so after the initial investment restocking isn't so bad.

>>47007428
>We can save this general

This is what this "general" deserves.

Death to traitors.

>>47007301
I stick with Citadel in order to support my FLGS.

>>47007428
>We can save this general
like y tho
>I for one would like to know about Knights as a primary army and power tiers.
do you even play the game? imperial knight players are disgusting subhumans, even worse than taufags

>>47007428
>Will people refuse to play a knight army?
I think most people would be reluctant too without a chance to chance their list.

Without a chance to tailor at least a little bit, a good portion of the opponent's army is going to be incapable of damaging yours.

With a heads up, I don't think they're too overpowering, but you might want to bring a back up army, if they don't want to play against an all knight list.

>>47007511
Chance to change.

>>47007427
>Had to be saved by wolf concubines
>honor
Hahahahahahahahhahahahahah

>>47007428

I Would play a knight list, but when you play offer to give you opponent free melta bombs on who ever can take them so all units can scratch you.

>>47007428
I play Orks and I wouldn't refuse you a game. I know I'd be outclassed, but it would give me a reason to field my beautiful Stompa model that otherwise collects dust. Unless we play Purge the Alien, fuck that.

>>47007336
>>47007374
>>47007415
>>47007447
>>47007478
Ok. I'll give army painter a look, otherwise i'll just deal with high prices i guess.

recomended brand of paintbrush?

Anyone know if the rules for the Blastajet are in the new White Dwarf? I imagine with the new supplement out they'll just make me buy that instead. I'm just wondering if there is any point to buying the WD if it's essentially an ad for the new book.

>>47005049
Any ideas on how to paint DElder in a light color scheme?

I'm thinking about doing some conversion work to make the models look less spiky and paint/convert them to be more Space Priate-y.

I think the Raider/Ravager models would look boss with bigger sails and a wood paint job.

I like how this new flyers expansion releases a few weeks after Battlefleet Gothic Armada. Makes you want to simulate the vidya game by making a smaller scale air battle

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>all these desperate attempts to keep this poor excuse for a general alive.

RIP

>>47007688
Don't forget to give them all pirate hats :D

>>47007804
>Desperate attempts
>still 30 posts ahead of the other thread.
Even with shitposting you can't keep up.

>>47007812
>pirate hats :D
You're a genius.
Now I have to see if I can find a bit seller that has them, or if I'll have to try and greenstuff my own.

>>47007834
The other thread doesn't even have that much shitposting.
It's got lists, disscusion of favorite units, and info about the new flyers phase.
This is really the shitposting one if we're being honest.

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If you want to build your army up slowly, I would advise getting a squad of death company and a Chaplin as a HQ choice, give the death company chai swords and bolt pistols but replace one marines chain sword with a power fist, give them all and the Chaplin jump packs. To make the list legal you might want to get a death company dreadnought and kit him out to be cassor the dammed- he would make up your second troops choice and thus make your army bound, from there look at expanding into having more close combat units and maybe a vindicator or two, also don't forget to put your tactical squad in a metal box (rhino tank), it's basically essential - have fun collecting!

>>47007937
>>47005049
Sorry forgot to tag you in my post

>>47007834
>Quantity over quality

Oh boy you sure showed me, this thread has more internet points.

>>47007783
The latest releases just demonstrate nothing has changed at GW. Game design is driven by what they think will 'force' players to buy more shit.

Instead of wasting time on stupid shit like a flyer phase that makes the game take longer than it already does - and flyer formations that they think will sell kits - how about they just produce a quality ruleset and see how that fares?

>>47006024
An IG list with one infantry platoon and one veteran squad, lead by a commissar, and then the rest of the points used up on sentinels

The 40k general threads have come to reflect the playerbase. All of the guys that brought me into 40k, and taught me how to enjoy the game - have stopped playing. Whats left are powergamers playing grey plastic armies. These are the /generals/ of your generation of 40k fans. I dont care a whole lot, but I do feel sorry for you guys. Wasting time swearing at eachother and whatnot. No one seems to be truly interested in Warhammer 40,000 anymore. It's about out-listing your opponent. And here its just become a copy of /v/ or /b/.

>>47008109
>>47008109
nice blog.

>assuming all that is left is powergamers

maybe in our area. I play more scenarios than I do actual battles and even when I do no one is list tailoring in an unfair way.

Sucks to suck.

>>47008109
The real general is discussing the game. Once you stop crying and cutting yourself you should come on by.
>>47006004

>>47008109
Would you shut the fuck up. This is all based on your little area's opinion. Where I am at there are plenty of people who love painting and playing, love fluffy armies, and generally love the lore. If anything most of the hyper competitive faggots left for warmachine/hordes years ago because the shitty rules became too much for them to handle.

>>47008109
Some of us are still here, and we will always be here, no matter the shit other people say, it is just the malcontent who seek an outlet for their frustration by filling this place with their shit.

Whats wrong with the Bomber rules again?

>>47006228
Don't love 'em but they're okay, much better to have one than not have a helmet at all

>>47008109
>Whats left are powergamers playing grey plastic armies
I'll be honest, I've never played a grey army. I've played ones where certain models were grey, once an entire unit was grey. But I've never played against more than about 10% greys. The most grey I ever played was against a guy who wanted each member of his Honor Guard to be unique, but hadn't finished planning them all out, and refused to paint the first one until he'd finished planning all of them. He put a shitton of work into his army and was embarrassed by the grey

Where do you live where you have EVER fought an entirely/mostly grey army?

>>47006069
The world is your oyster. What do you want to do and what have you already done?

>>47007672
No, rules are not in the WD. (For either new flier.)

>>47009146
Thanks. That'll save me a trip to the store.

>>47007428

There's no point playing an all knight army unless your army is filled with anti-tank or you play a similarly powerful competitive army.

If you allow me to count all my weapons as melta instead of plasma or whatever stupid shit I have glued to the model, then sure I'd play them.

But now that knights have objsec you can't expect casual lists to be able to win. The knights out-sturdy you, out-shoot you, out-melee you, out-speed you, AND out-cap you.

>>47007937
>A3

Blood angels update when?!

>>47009801
It's the same as the stats for the normal dc dread in the new codex. But don't worry - you still get +2 attacks on the charge (and +1 for having 2 identical ccws?)

>>47010043
He's probably referring to the fact that vanilla dreds all got more attacks.

Thing is, they didn't up the attacks of the yiffdreds when they updated that codex recently, so all bets are kind of off.

>>47010088
The reduced attacks might just be to balance it a bit as a 7 attack dreadnought might be too strong

Trying to make a fluffy but sorta competitive Raven Guard list. I have the power armour dudes minus the vanguards and the transports, everything else can change.

Raven Guard Talon Strike Force 1850 pts
Core-Pinion Battle Demi-Company (1044)
Chaplain-110
Raven's Fury & Meltabombs
Tactical Squad (5)-130 – 2 squads
-Plasma Gun, Combi-Plas & Rhino
Tactical Squad (5)-130
-Grav Gun, Combi-Grav, Drop Pod
Assault Squad (10)-185
-Jump Packs, 2 Flamers, Sgt. has Meltabombs
Devastator Squad (6)-164
4 Lascannon
Scout Squad (5)-65 – 3 squads
-Camo Cloaks, Bolters

Auxiliaries
-Raptor Wing (395)
Stormtalon Gunship-115-2 units
-Skyhammer Missiles
Land Speeder Squad (3)-165
-Multi-Meltas

-Shadowstrike Kill Team (411)
Scout Squad (6) -91-2 squads
-Camo Cloaks, Bolters
Vanguard Veteran Squad (7) -229
-Sgt. has Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield, 3 have dual Lightning Claws, 1 has Lightning Claw & Storm shield, 2 basic.

>>47010258
Why? Regular SM get 6 attack dreadnoughts on a much better frame, why not , let blood angels have something special.
It's only a regular dread as well so it's much easier to deal with than an iron clad.

>>47006024
Ork Dakka list

Had 5 Big Meks with Shokk Attack guns supported by nine kannon/zapp guns, three looted wagons, and 45 Lootas

Also brought one of those free cover wall things, can't remember the name, but the entire army moved maybe a collective 5 inches the whole game, just sat there and DAKKKKADAKKKADAKKKAAAKAKAKAKAKAKDKDKDK

>>47010811
>Regular SM get 6 attack dreadnoughts on a much better frame

Which one are you talking about?

>>47010319
Looks pretty good to me. Why the bolter instead of sniper scouts though?

>>47006839
That's sick dawg, love it

Can someone explain why orks have such poor leadership? They're supposed to not fear death and warbosses are supposed to massively inspire them.

>>47007380
Okay seriously, fucking stop. We know you're assmad about there being several generals and you want to shit up our little camp. Go home furfag, and shit in your own lawn

Man, reading through the Only War core book makes me love the IG even more. If I was feeling indecisive ablut my army, I feel much better about them now.

>>47013744
It's a holdover from previous editions combined with how Mob Rule has been changed.

Supposedly, Orks used to get a bonus to leadership based on how many wounds were in a unit or something, which meant that a large blob of Orks with a Nob leading them would effectively be fearless until they took too many casualties, which is exactly how it should work.

>>47013744
Orks used to have a fluffy rule where nobz and warbosses could buy either an iron gob to show that they had a dead 'ard chomp or a set of horns as a trophy from a big kill, either of which (but not both, it didn't stack) increased their leadership value by one, because as you say the boyz around them would be inspired.

This wargear option was removed without any stat changes to counter it 8 years ago, leaving even ghazghkull fucking thraka with leadership 9.

>>47007437
As a Chaos player down to my very soul, I can at once say DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR, but also, Bangles get props. They are pretty awesome and I have some. Sadly they're not well off. I shall hold out hope that my armies one day dont shit themselves on the table any longer...

>>47013829
>>47013813

So i guess it's just a fuck up by GW? I always got the impression that orks would rarely feel like retreating since they believed they wouldn't die and they love a fight

>>47013853
>So i guess it's just a fuck up by GW?

That's basically the recent Ork books in a nutshell. They've gotten a lot of stuff removed and point costs increased with nothing good to replace it.

>>47013813
Mob rule was leadership = models, so 12+ was basically fearless as you couldn't fail the check. Then that was changed to 9+ models in a unit = the fearless USR.

Neither of each form of mob rule really affected any unit other than boyz. The new form of mob rule at least does that right, just very little else.

>>47008537
Most of my Chaos is grey. But I'm also busy as hell and can't usually find the time to paint. Which is a damn shame because I got me a new Chaos Lord and he looks bitchin and I wanna bling his shit up

Fuck Captcha, leave me alone

>>47013764
I love Only War, I'm running a game of it now, a Light Infantry Regiment. No one's even died, it's a Christmas miracle

>>47013902
Yeah. It could work if they made Nobs count as multiple models for them or something so a Boss Nob could add to it further.

I definitly like the idea of Orks being Fearless at a critical mass more than the current Mob Rule though.

>>47008537
My girlfriend's army is grey because she won't let me paint it for her and she won't paint until we finish college for ???? reasons.

>>47013991
>>47013902
>>47013896

While on the topic of orks, what do you believe the direction of a good ork codex would be? I often hear complaints that the current codex had no clear direction as to what an ork army is supposed to do/be.

>>47014016
From a personal standpoint (and someone who doesn't play Orks), I like the idea of Orks as an army that centers on numbers, and Waagh to multiply those numbers.

Leadership being a factor of unit size makes sense, and encourages large units. Ork shooting should be based around getting lots of shots, so they need to be better about handing out twin-linked on more units.

Waagh shouldn't have become a constant thing you can do every turn using formations or traits or whatever. It should be one big thing that happens once or maybe twice per game, but affects ALL of your units and does so in a major way.

They should also have a lot of cool upgrades and wargear options. This ties into the twin-linking thing, but Orks should be scrapping stuff together and slapping guns on things all the time.

When you see an Ork force, it should be wildly different each time, but there should be 3 things in common. There's a lot of them, and once WAAGH comes they're going to hit you HARD.

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>>47013991
Yeah I agree with that, although I'm not keen on army wide fearless as morale should definitely be a part of the game for all armies. The only fearless I definitely think should be in the army would be from the WAAAGH! and mega armour, as the fluff for the lucky nobz in the armour basically states they see themselves as being completely bulletproof in it.

>>47014016
I typed out a bunch of stuff there then realised I was basically describing the tactiks pages from the 2nd ed codex. Basically a well rounded army with reliable support units and a focus on assault is what I think orks should be like, GW seem scared of going out of the basic statline with orks. Why not drop furious charge from lootas but give them BS3? Just basic things like that would improve orks so much.

Also more weapon options would be fantastic, for melee we have either big choppas or power klaws - that's it. Power axes, mauls, big 'ammas and all sorts would be orky as fuck. There's no reason for them not to exist.

>>47014439
Well, my idea specifically was that you count half the number of models you have, with Nobs counting for 4 and Bosspoles adding 3, and that would be the unit's leadership, with anything above 11 being fearless.

Thus, a squad of 30 boys with a nob boss would effectively be at 18 leadership, and they'd stay fearless until either the Nob and around 7 boys died, or twice that many boys died.

That's towards the upper end though. Most units would just be getting fearless for a brief moment while they were at full strength, and then get slightly higher leadership until they drop back to the standard 7 once casualties start to mount.

It makes morale still a factor, but it makes it behave differently, sort of like how it works for Tyranids.

>>47014439
I've been thinking that orks should have options available to them relating to forcing enemies into assault, like traktor gunz that bring enemies forward or kommandoz having the option to take a force field gun that can push enemies toward the orks charging to them.

Just interesting support options would be good, and more options to get orks quickly into close combat, it doesn't make sense that nobs with huge choppas even exist if they always always get shot up before combat.

>>47006190
autism right there

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>>47006030
I'll be honest with you, fampalampa: I came to this thread only for this post.
Some newfag created this 40k general, but not the way You wanted.

Your tears are delicious.

All Hail Tzeentch, the Changer of Ways!
All Hail Chaos!

>>47014631
>like traktor gunz that bring enemies forward
I want this now

>>47017929
Only if they have a really dumb name like "attraktor gunz".