Warhammer 40k general.

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First for "WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE FAQS???"

>>46978826
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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3rd for Malakim Pharos. This thread weeps.

FOR THOSE WE CHERISH, WE DIE IN GLORY.

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>>46978802
This thread belongs to me Cato Sicarius and the ultramarines

>>46978826
Suck it boy, you'll have to wait until 8th edition.

FAQS LATER TODAY GET HYPE

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>>46978876
Proof?

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>>46978876

>>46978876
PREPARE FOR POINTLESS FAQS CLARIFING SHIT THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE CLARIFIED!

[SPOILER]Sorry, i just prefer to be pessimistic, and then get a pleasant surprise if they DON'T fuck up, rather than hope for rainbows and flowers and be horribly disappointed. GW have failed me too much.[/]

>>46978916
>SPOILER
Fuck you phone.

>>46978901
>>46978915

the sky is falling, the Lamenters own the thread, the planets have aligned. As the prophets have foretold, when these signs come so comes the FAQ

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>>46978916
mfw I learned how to do spoiler blocks by watching people fuck it up.

>>46978826
I'd rather wait a week longer and have FAQs where the developers understand the underlying issues than one of them answered the questions during lunch.

>>46978876
>FAQ's are released
>all eldar D weapons are FAQed and their previous stats return
>only wraithknigth heavy distortion cannons and sword remain S:D
What would be /tg/ thoughts about this?1636

>>46979001
Make it so it goes back to one heavy weapon per 3 jetbikes and you've got yourself a deal.

>>46979001
As long as windrider heavy weapons aren't returned to 1:3 its irellevant.

>>46978956
>I'd rather wait a week longer and have FAQs where the developers understand the underlying issues than one of them answered the questions during lunch.

Wrong game for you then.

I want to make a group of wolf lords for my army, cuz it's cool and because i want to field different commanders based on the situation.

Help me come up with them

They don't need to be powerful or effective, they just need to be cool.

I already have:

>chapter master with pistol and power sword
>terminator lord with axe and shield
>lord on bike with power lance and sword
>lord with jump pack and claw/fist combo

I want at least two more, but i want them to be different from the others

Give me some cool ideas

>>46978826
Maybe wait for the Saturday Website Update?

>>46979001
What "previous profile" do D-scythes return to?

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>>46978802
>Old general image
I get it if you dislike Tauface and Chicken, but Genestealer deserves to stay.

>>46979072
Im carefully optimistic - the FAQs will come but they will probably come later than sooner.

>>46979053
>wolf lord
>chapter master
Eh?

Anyway, how about a gunslinger? Everybody loves gunslingers.

r8 my IH list

1850

libby with the faggotstone

faggot conclave


2x scouts

6x grav cents in a spartan

6x grav cents in a spartan

yolo

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Can we stat Tau Cypher?

>>46979115
Swizzle/Swank

Needs more Dank

>>46979134
no

>>46979100
>eh?
Well they're not technically sw, so i don't use named characters

>gunslinger
Intetesting. What weapon should i give him? Plasma/bolt pistol combo? Dual bolt pistols? Combi-weapon?

>>46979134

You mean... Shas'la Shas'ka?

Speaking of gunslingers, why isn't there a Cowboy Marines chapter?

>>46979148
White Scars

>>46979115
Swag/5, would fight against.... with my infantry IG. Have fun rerolling all those 5+!

>>46979148

Because "power armour" and "specialises in light firearms such as pistols" is a very silly combo.

Is it just me, or does giving tactical marines crappier equipment than less experienced Assault Marines and Devastators seem kinda dumb?

>>46979180
It's just you.

>>46979164
>silly
>in 40k
I don't understand what you're saying.

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>>46979164
But anon, you have to remember that 40k is very silly game with very strong rule of cool.

>>46979187

Tactical marines are only generalists in that they don't bother to carry much specialist gear, not in that they're actually well equipped beyond their armour and assault rifle.

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>>46979194
>>46979164
>>46979148
30k Moritat says hello

I once put down 40 plasma pistol shots into a marine blob.

That was before they nerfed it into total uselessness.

>>46979180
Losing their unique rapid fire rule has been hurting tactical marines and terminators since third edition.

>>46979163
tank shock homie

Ok guys, added a plasma pistol gunslinger at my wolf lord roster. Hellfrost pistols don't exist so i'll settle for the next best thing.
Need a last one.

Maybe another ranged guy? Something something flames

>>46979164
>light firearms such as pistols

Pistols that can fire 19mm explosive rockets, energy bolts that punch through all forms of infantry armour and light vehicle, beams that crush you with your own weight, and pistols that can reduce tanks to ruin. Yes, light firearms indeed.

>>46979134

WE made a good decision hiring a studio painter. His paintjobs are amazing.

>>46979096

I'd settle for confirmed points and statlines for the new Ork flyer. Seriously how can so much of the WD leak but not the most important parts?

>>46979270

Yes, Lord sarcasmo. Light firearms.

Because fucking duh, medium and heavy arms are bigger and better by definition, higher tech base than we have.

>>46979287
Cause the stats weren't in it.
It's a teaser for the full book.

>>46979295

Wait, they want us to buy the whole goddamn supplement just to be able to use the two new models?

That can't possibly be right.

>>46979304
And the new dogfight phase.

>>46979304
And updated rules for ALL* the flyers!

*except FW flyers.

>>46979294
Lighter than a laspistol? Autopistol? Lasgun? Autogun? Stub gun? Heavy stubber? Shotgun? Rotor cannon?

There's a whole slew of big and small weapons that pack less of a punch than some pistols. You can have a dude with a minigun that can't even hurt the lightest of vehicles, while something like an inferno pistol can blow up land raiders.

>>46979088
Goddamn, it is getting SUPER FUCKING CROUDED in the general image.

>>46979304
>Wait, they want us to buy the whole goddamn supplement just to be able to use the two new models?
>That can't possibly be right.

You DO remember who the publisher is right?

>>46979223
Well its not totally useless, you cant just go OP with plasma pistols anymore.

>>46979246
With 2 spartans? Try mowing your through the field when faced with 6 rerolling, ignores cover/LoS tank hunting armorbane S10 ap1 blast-shots per turn.

>>46979216

They should probably make Tac marines the bottom rung after scout rather than the fourth rank up desu.

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>>46979146
You're pretty good.

>>46979394
>s10 blasts
you mean s8 blasts, ceramite + flareshield gives no fucks

also 4 psychers give no fucks. warpmetal makes them av15/15/15

Oh it's no secret why Tactical marines kinda suck;

It's because you need basic troops for a wargame. Even if they're a super elite mega-SEAL army, you need grunts to stand up front to fill that troop tax.

The awkward part is that the fluff fluffs them up as veterans, but then has seperate super-veterans with access to better equipment and stats.

>>46979442
Spartans cant have Flare Shields in 40k. And you're playing 40k right? You have centurions.

(also S8+Armorbane+Tankhunter is still ~75% chance to cause a pen against AV15)

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>>46979088

>genestealer rep is just a lazy re-edit of the guardsman sprite

>>46979465
invisible anyway

>>46979481
You can bitch when you can do better.

>>46979489

One of them is invisible. The other gets murdered what now.

>>46979304
The rules will be included in the Box of the model, just like they started doing recently.

>>46979530
>The other gets murdered what now.
pick up the terrain the spartan and cents were in, throw it 24 inches, blow up everything with grav

>>46979448
>mfw this was completely fine in 2nd edition because being able to double-tap, having powered armour and their ability to largely ignore break tests made them rather unique among troop units
>veterans had the exact same gear and rules but BS/WS/I 5 because being veterans just meant they were the best at what they do
sternguard/vanguard were a mistake

>>46979223
God damnit, they nerfed it? I never read the FAQ updates. It sucks as even if I did get a 30k game, I'd end up using the book rules and not the FAQ ones. That means I need to buy a tablet...

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>>46979564

>>46979564

What if they gave the Sternguard rules as-is to Tacticals, and made Sternguard themselves just "first company" with WS/BS 5?

Of course, that leaves no jump pack vets... Maybe make "First company: WSBS5 and Move to Elites" avaliable to both tacs and assault marines?

>>46979600

What about Devastator Vets? Those don't seem to exist for some reason.

>>46979600
Veteran status should have just been a squad-wide upgrade for non-terminator squads. Make you take them as elites, but with the WS/BS/I buff.

For that matter, terminators should have WS/BS 5 again. They're terminators. They used to be BS6 thanks to their in-built targeters, too.

>>46979614
Hey I served my time, Don't make carry that heavy shit around no more

>>46979600
Arent there also Vanguard?

When the moon comes out, space marine players begin to howl.

>>46979614
Space wolves have them, and you could say IF do too or they at least recieve more than just basic training.

>>46979518
Dunno; I can't run a government or economy very well, but I know damn good & well running it almost entirely for the benefit of an infinitesimal minority to the active detriment of s majority is a bad idea.

>>46979662
Normally the the line of promotions for a basic marine is Scouts -> Devastators -> Assault -> Tactical.

For space wolves its Blood Claws -> Grey Hunters -> Long Fangs.

So for normal marines its "Keep out of the way and shoot things" and for SW its "You now know NOT to rush into melee so shoot things"

>>46979145
dual plasma if you can
It may kill him, it may make no sense, but goddam its cool

>>46979614
Devcents?

>>46979697
i remember when dual plasma pistol wolf guard in pods was a thing..

If a model has two pistols, can it fire both at the same turn if it has only one attack? What if it has more?
What if they're different types? Do you apply both weapon stats or only one?

>>46979693
With SW scouts being the antisocial old coots.

>>46979693
That's one thing I really like about the SW

>>46979712
Gunslinger rule allows you to fire both at one target, whatever the profiles of both pistols are.

>>46979712
Gunslinger rule: You can fire two pistols per turn in your shooting phase. Has nothing to do with your attacks.

>>46979134
HQ 135points
WS 2 | BS 6 | S 3 | T 3 | W 2 | I 4 | A 3 | L 8 | 4+

Equipment
Recon Armour
Field Amplifier Array
Photon Grenades
Networked Markerlight
x2 Pulse Blast Pistols

Special Rules
IC
Counter-attack
Hit&Run
Split Fire
Supporting Fire
Gunslinger
Fight on Foot (Darkstrider) (Can only join Pathfinders/firewarriors)

Quickdraw: This model makes snapshots, including overwatch, at BS2. Model not limited to firing overwatch once each phase (may still only fire once per eligible target). If this model is not in base contact with an enemy model, but is locked in combat at the start of his initiative subphase, he gains +D3 attacks.

CQB: Model may make its Pile In move in any direction as long as it remains in unit coherency and is not required to move towards enemy. During the Fight subphase, if model is not in Base Contact with an enemy model after pile, it may exchange each available close combat attack with a snapshot using his weapons' shooting profiles, against any unit he is locked in combat with. Alternately, the model may exchange all close combat attacks for a normal round of shooting at full BS against any unit, regardless of whether or not it is locked in combat.

Pulse Blast Pistol

12-8" S4 AP- Pistol, Pinning
8-4" S5 AP5 Pistol, Pinning, Precision Shots
4-1" S6 AP3 Pistol, Pinning, Sniper, Shred
1-0" S7 AP2 Pistol, Pinning, Sniper, Shred, Rending, Soul Blaze

>>46979707

Apparently they never give cent suits to veterans.

Kinda makes you wonder why tactical cents aren't a thing.

>>46979795
Mobility. Devs are fine being slow since they can sit back and lay down long range fire. But Tacs need to move from objective to objective, they can't afford the slowdown a Centurion suit would cause.

Is blob guard an auto lose these days or can you win with effective use of psykers, cover, orders, etc?

>>46979778
Infantry (Character)

>>46979815

Yes which is why Assault centurions is even more ridiculous.

A hybrid variant with one ranged arm and one Melee arm would make a fuck ton more sense than pure assault.

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Thoughts?

>>46979795
Isn't that Terminators?
Basic gun, 1:5 heavy weapon.

>>46979829
but then they're just a bigger terminator

>>46979834
Pretty cool. I dig medic characters.

>>46979795
They might though, it could just take all the veterans skill to operate all the suits guns.

>>46979829
Assault centurions are mostly for boring a hole in a building or bunker and setting everything inside on fire. They aren't made for punching moving targets.

What's the exact name of the official 40k facebook group? Can't find the fucking thing to check for FAQ news.

You wanna know why I hate Leman Russ?
It's not because of his boner-inducing penchant for teamkilling.
It's not because of his hypocrisy in regards to Nikea and psykers.
It's not because of his inability to back up his boastful nature (see his fights with Lion El'Jonson and Angron).
It's because immediately upon swearing fealty to the Emperor as the 2nd found primarch he had to upstage Horus and his LUNA WOLVES with his own superlative legion title.
Two "official" fucking legions in and we have the Luna Wolves and the Space Wolves.
What a fucking douchebag.

>>46979906
It's literally "Warhammer 40,000", the logo is half of the imperial eagle, white on black background
Regarding the FAQ, they said that "You'll have a draft of the first of them next week to feedback on." less than 2 hours ago

>>46979906
There is also a /tg/ steam group if you're interested.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/tgogchan

>>46979912
That's the real reason the two lost legions, the Sun Wolves and the Imperial Wolves, had to be purged.

>>46979912
>It's not because of his boner-inducing penchant for teamkilling
That's the purpose the Emperor gave him, and as shown in Prospero Burns he doesn't like it. He just know that that's his mission and he has to do it

>>46979929
Wasn't the timestamp the 25th?

>>46979834
>the operating table is on tracks
EVEN IN SURGERY I STILL SERVE

>>46979929
Not showing up. Weird.

>>46979959
Frankly I only found that kind of claim here on /tg/ not saying that it wasn't made, just that if it was said I missed it

They also said to another person:
>We'll have a first draft of some of the FAQ questions for you guys to feed back on next week, before they are made official.

>>46979912
>It's not because of his boner-inducing penchant for teamkilling.
>It's not because of his inability to back up his boastful nature (see his fights with Lion El'Jonson and Angron).

Basically, you are hating on Russ for what the Emperor forced him to do.

You are a heartless cretin.

>>46979982
But either way "next week" is next week, dunno why anyone took it to mean at the end of the week.

>>46979834
>"I only came to ask for some aspirin..."

>>46980003
He wasn't exactly forced. He barely needed any excuse to claim MUH HONOUR and start punching his brothers.

>>46979954
That's the purpose he thought the emperor gave him - read wolf King
Russ wanted off fenris cos it was full of trump voters but the canis helix was destined for fenris so emperor said no you have to recruit from there
That's why he went over the top pretending to be a barbarian and taking on roles for himself

>>46980019
>>46980022
It wasn't what what he thought. Wolf King has a passage where Russ says that the Emperor explained to him his purpose as a primarch.

>>46980044
“that, Russ had been forced to accept that he had not been birthed on Fenris at all, and that the wolves, the ice, the storm and the summer-fire were all a random imposition on a childhood that had been conceived very differently.
Of course, there was a sense in which he had always known that. Even before the Allfather had come he had felt the wrongness of it, as if some colossal sham had been perpetrated, locking him in a nightmare at once seductive and terrifying. The wolves bowed their heads before him, as did the mortal warriors he conquered or slew with such bewildering ease, and he wanted to scream at them, ‘Who are you? Why am I stronger than you?’
There had been no understanding of this on Terra. The Emperor, the Allfather, his shifting visage always impossible to read, had kept him in isolation for a long time, doling out information in morsels, teaching him to use power armour, to command starships, to control the warp-awareness that ran through his veins as thickly as his hyperoxygenated blood.
‘I could leave Fenris now,’ Russ had once told his father. ‘The planet is too wild for life[…]”

New tts video
https://youtu.be/ihskUz0obzY

>>46980092
“will never support the armies you deserve.’
Leave Fenris. Unimaginable to think that he had ever said that. At the time of that exchange, decades ago, the Fenrisians of the VI Legion were being brutally moulded into the death world’s image. They had started to build the Fang, hollowing out the Great Mountain with earth-gougers the size of Warmonger Titans. The Emperor had clearly expected the Wolves to be drawn from the world of ice and fire, and that, whether by chance or design, their uniquely violent home would remain the proving crucible of the Legion.
And so the pretence continued. Russ became more like the Fenrisians than they were themselves. He guzzled mjod with the baresarks, and wrestled blackmanes to the bloody snow, and roared out scorn and mirth across the sea of stars. He let the gothi adorn his armou”

>>46980102
“and engrave his swords. He kept out of the counsels of Guilliman and the Lion, and ignored every emissary from Lorgar. He did just what the Allfather had told him– he became the weapon of last resort, the most faithful, the prosecutor of dirty wars.
There was no resentment when Fulgrim’s purple-and-gold Legion took the Palatine Aquila, nor when Vulkan was taken aside for so long into secret confidence, nor, most of all, when Horus was made Warmaster and the arguments over who was the truly chosen son became academic. Russ knew, right down in his gut, that the Wolves had been made the way they were for a reason, that none other could perform their blood-soaked function. In the final analysis, were the Imperium to falter, it would be his foot pressed against the neck of any usurper, watched over by the benign and inscrutable gaze of his gene-father, the author and definer of all his misery and his uncertainty, all his bliss and all his glory.
But now that sham was over. He had truly become what he had once only pretended to be. He felt the world-soul pulse under his skin[…]”

>>46979954
My reading of Prospero Burns was obviously very different to yours. I got the distinct impression that he and the rest of the wolves enjoyed what they did.

>>46980093
>I am going to make like a hooker and say let's get this over with as quickly as possible
>Because you are creepy
>And I want to wallow in self-pity some more
They really should just stick with Emps, all the rest is random shit at this point, but he's still class.

>>46980172
I really liked Dorn line "You are what you eat", none more brutal.

Have there been any more rules leaks for fliers?

Does anyone think they will make them crucial to any army or just help fliers be more specialized?

>>46980217
AA will still be as effective as before i'm assuming
if anything it'll probably nerf flyers

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>>46979481
Just like the renegade knight is a shitty edit of the normal knight, and the renegade is a shitty edit of the gaurdsman.
So hey, if you hate shitty edits for support armies, we could always go back to this version.

>>46980217
I think the supplement will make flyers better if you wield them en-masse. If those flying-formations really give out bonuses they hint (Ignores cover), those will be used.

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The limited edition Gulliman book is out now!

This is your chance to support the hobby. Get yours now before they run out.
.
http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/roboute-gulliman-hb.html

>>46980217
It's not a nerf nor a buff.
It just make the game more a rock-paper-scissor thing

>You brought 3 attack flyers and I have no anti-air?
Here's Ignore Cover on all of them to fuck my shit up
>You brought 3 attack flyers but I have fighters?
I can destroy your fliers in reserve
>You brought no flyers but I have fighters?
My fighters can't do shit and I wasted my points.

>>46980282

Is there a template for the :-o guys? I could knock a hybrid up

New TTS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihskUz0obzY

>>46980295
>$90 Australian
>18 in the series

Jesus Christ GW

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>>46980295

I just want the Horus Heresy to get to fucking Earth already.

This is insane.

why doesn't gee dub have stores in switzerland?

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>>46980373

THE RIDE NEVER ENDS

>>46980295
>This is your chance to support the hobby
I don't want to support any hack author's hobby of writing terrible books.

Miniatures and Paints, not Retcons and Fakes. Praise Duncan.

>>46980386

Neutral Nazi supporting cowards do not deserve to play with army dudes

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>>46980386
WHY DOESN'T SWITZERLAND BUY MORE GEE DUBS!?!

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>>46980409

You mean praise Emma?

>>46980093
>>46980364
I don't know, I didn't find this one particularly funny.
Probably because with the SW he only focused on the wolfity wolf wolf joke that has been done to death instead of doing something new while also ignoring completely other things, like the fact that they fought against Inquisition and GK. You would have thought that the Emperor would have liked that
I'm not saying that he should have avoided that joke, but even for the Salamanders he had two jokes (black people and fire). It just feels rather poor

Helghast inspired Imperial Guard and Imperial Knights. Anyone know how I'd model pilots

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>>46980426

>>46980432
Storm Talon's cockpit as the face?

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>>46980426

>>46980373
This is not part of the HH series. It's a spin-off.

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>>46980426
She's cute, but she is no sexy Duncan.

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>>46980498
>cute

the scion models are starting to grow on me
i think i'm going to buy the shitty "codex"
>tfw no yarrick in it nor errata

>>46980432
http://www.pig-iron-productions.com/head-sprues-c-4.html

Was considering a similar theme myself.

>>46980295
Wait, they're making the hardcover limited to 2.500 units, right? Not the entire print run, right? I ask because this is GW we are talking about.

>>46980295
Fuck off Carnac.

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>>46980498
>cute

>>46980672
New to BL? First, they release the limited edition books. Then after a period between 6 months to 2 years, they will release mundane hardcover with the digital version.

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>>46980428
I waited for this specific mentioning too, as it was one of the most discussed topics when the whole Wulfen shit came out, Especially that "novel" (shivers) that literally declared the SWs as enemies of the Imperium now.

Loth with:

Iron Arm
Might of Heroes
Electroshield

Makes him
S9 T9 I6(Irrelevant due to Unwieldy) A6 2+/3++

Shame he only has W2. That should be changed when FW gets round to updating Babababadad war

>>46980570

>tfw toy soldier shits want to steal yarrick who reps Steel Legion

reeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>46980295
Wait, so this is 18 books, so one for each Primarch?


That's kinda cool. Let's me pick who I want to read. I wish BL and GW would combine. I never go on BL to check their stuff.

>>46979277
Do you honestly think that image hasn't been photoshopped? All studios shoop photos of their paintjobs but holy fuck that is one of the worse looking shoops.

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>>46980683
Buy yours already, you cheap bastard.

I already bought mine. Do I have to support the hobby by myself? I swear to god if the copies don't run out before midnight, there will be CONSEQUENCES!

>>46980295
>written by David Annandale

The guy has been great so far, but I've not read his Space Wolves based book. I'm tempted but knowing my luck he won't write them all and I'll get Gav 'Boring' Thorpe writing BA's.

>>46980700
He has to pick his spells from single spell-tree.

>>46980700
Loth has to chose powers from the same discipline.

>>46980727
I always wonder how you afford this stuff, Carnac.

>not buying digital AND physical

Fucking pleb. Get out of my sight.

>>46979329

Take the Sister out and sploch the grey knights armor with red. That'll open up a slot.

>>46980710
Shouldn't you cannon fodder be on the frontline dying and buying time for the big players of the war?

>>46980734
No he doesn't. Rules say he picks from Biomancy, Telepathy and Telekinisis. But that's 6th edition rules.

The Angels of Death supplement, which is the newest and most recent book, says ALL pyskers with Space Marine Faction can choose from these powers. Is Loth suddenly not a Space Marine?

Therefore, he can pick from them and the 3 his majorly out of date book says. Until Forge World update his book otherwise. That's 100% legal.

>>46980735
Yes, 6th edition, so I'm assuming that's changed with the Angels of Death supplement. I'd have to ask Forge World themselves.

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>>46980738
Shilling for GW is a good job, mate.

And there isn't a digital copy yet.

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>>46980754
You're wrong and right.

Wrong in sense that he can pick powers from multiple trees.

Right in sense that he can pick powers from the new disciples

>>46980771
How much do you get paid to shill for them, Carnac?

I'd like to see a picture of your contract. So I demand PROOFS.

>>46979778
Pretty cool. Let him join Kroot too.

>>46980796
It's a secret. No proofs for you.

>>46980793
>>46980735
>>46980734

You're right. Sorry. Been such a long time since I checked. I thought it would be changing in 7th and I went and checked and it's just 6th.

Sorry guys, acting like a cunt. Disregard I suck cocks.

If so.

Loth:
Might of Heroes
Veil of Time
Null Zone

>>46978844
Cato is a self-absorbed prick and you know it. Even the people of Ultramar think he's an asshole, and that's saying something.

>>46980811
I forget you're a chronic liar. Such a shame. My guess is you're an American NEET who gets large amounts of autism bux cause USA has a much better benefit system than anywhere in EU.

>>46980710
anon, yarrick is literally part of the militarum tempestus , not the IG

>>46979939
No, it was the Imperial Wolves and the Angel Wolves

>>46980793
>Right in sense that he can pick powers from the new disciples

he can randomly roll on the new tables like a normal psyker.

>>46980823
>USA has a much better benefit system than anywhere in EU.
Might I introduce you to Finland, Sweden and Norway?

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What if he had a successor chapter called the Iron Masks instead of the Silver Skulls? Or even in addition to?

>>46980823
Pretty sure, the EU being a godless socialist dystopia is more into wellfare than the US.

And no, I am a man of integrity and honesty. Do not slander me, you cretin.

>>46980824
Commissars are under the Officio Prefectus (aka. the Commissariat), which is under the Departmento Munitorum, just like IG. Militarum Tempestus has been moved to be under the Administratum.

>>46980851
Got a friend in USA:

$1400 a month Autism Bux
$400 Housing Allowance
$120 Food Stamps

that's quite a lot.

>>46980863
Yet you don't say what you do.

>>46980851
Nobody cares about irrelevant Scandinavia.

That said, >>46980823 I don't know what he's talking about when he says "better benefits system." I'm conservative, but I'll freely admit that the US benefit system is in need of some serious overhaul and revision.

>>46980823
Well, I'm glad to know I don't live in a godforsaken commie country like the US, while I go to college for free and get enough money and cheap housing from the state to pretty much get me by without a student loan.

>>46980878
Does he live in California or the East Coast?

>>46980848
No he can pick from the- Wait.

You're actually right. How the rules are written, he can just pick the powers from those three but can generate them from the new 4. Clever.

>>46980884
I think he's East Coast, but I stopped talking to him when he became a "DUDE WEED LMAO I FINALLY UNDERSTAND THE UNIVERSE DUDE YOU SHOULD DO WEED XD"

I'm about to go play against a guy who's using 2 flyrants, and 3 of these things that just shit out loads of little dudes, and some forgeworld monstrosity with a massive flamer template

I'm still new to this, so I'm thinking of just taking as many large blasts as I can to deal with the little dudes and stop them going out of control

I'm guessing I'll need Skyfire for the flyrants?

I dunno if he'll be using all of it against me I only plan on bringing 1500pts as I'm still a newbie

>>46980878
Due to threats on my person by several anons, divulging personal information to this viper's nest is unwise.

You guys are nuts.

>>46980895

He can also roll on the original 3 if you don't wan't to go all on one table, but I don't know why you would do that.

>>46980881
>Nobody cares about irrelevant Scandinavia.

They're relevant enough to question anon's assertions. Unless they've all separated from the EU since last I checked.

>>46980917
Found the Scandinavian.

>>46980895
That's why FW need to update or clarify. If he can pick from those three, if you add the others into the list, he should be able to pick. But RAW say no.

Hopefully FW will clear this up with an update.

Imagine Mephiston with

Might of Heroes
Iron Arm
Quickening

Make him S10 (he has a power to do that anyway) T10, I10, A10.

That's assuming Quickening gives 3 from D3.

>>46980913
Well Telepathy is still retard-strong. Good witchfire and fucking Invisibility.

>>46980853
Why does he wear the mask?

>>46980937
Because he hates Perturabo after he and the legion fell to chaos, or something like that.

>>46980909
Idk what you play. But rate of fire is probably better than blasts.

Tyrants and Tervigons are T6, 3+, 4W / 6W creatures.

Killing Tervigons kills some little guys around it.

Heirodule is a T8, 3+ LoW creature with a Hellstorm.

Get weapons that can hurt T6/T8 and AP3 (or force enough saves) and you're in decent shape

>>46980912
"I work in a legal firm". Wow. So fucking hard.

Yet you don't take the hint. I find it funny. I'd love to see the headlines if somebody killed you.

>>46980933
Wait, ignore this post. Forgot that Sanguine Sword took up a slot. So, Iron Arm + Quickening would be great, if he got it. Though I would probably roll for Electroshield since Meph doesn't have a ++.

>>46980923
Lol no. But if you're gonna say "anywhere in the EU" and Scandinacian countries are "somewhere in the EU", you can't just then claim that these things, that fit the criteria, do not count.

>>46980933
With a 1/6 chance to get each power that's a... 1/216 chance?
Hilarious when you get it... but I wouldn't worry too much about it.

>>46980936
I didn't mean 'I don't how why you would use them at all"

I meant I don't know why you would use them but split your dice so that you have to roll instead of pick.

>>46980909
I'd say stock up on as many rockets/plasma or equivalents as you can, they're your best bet aganist his lineup.
Play a mission with Misterious Objectives and hope to roll Skyfire on one of yours.

>>46980955
Even the smallest shreds of information would endanger my life immensely.

I am too important for this board to die.

>>46980754
It doesn't really matter much, anyone using loth is a WAAC faggot and doesn't get games.

>>46980717
maybe 19 if Alpharius and Omegon each get one

>>46980976
Yeah it doesn't work anyway. Sanguine Sword takes up a slot. So he can only roll twice. One of them is Quickening, meaning one left. Rolling on Biomancy isn't bad for Meph. Endurance and Warp Speed are pretty good.

You can get T10 though if you roll for Iron Arm and Endurance. But you won't get A10 I10.

>>46981000
>using Loth is a WAAC faggot
>a 2+ T4 W2 pysker with an Unwieldy weapon is WAAC

How fucking far has this board fallen? Not him btw, but fuck me.

>>46981007
I ended up buying it cause I like David Annadale. I just hope I get them all. Would be nice. Hopefully they're great reads with new fluff.

>>46981018

/tg/ is pretty bad at 40k. almost as bad as it is at magic.

>>46980952

I play Tau, I was going to take this Hunter Cadre with a Skyray:

+ HQ (140pts) +

Commander (140pts)
····XV8 Commander Crisis Suit (55pts) [2x Cyclic Ion Blaster (30pts), XV8-02 Crisis 'Iridium' Battlesuit (25pts)]

+ Elites (582pts) +

XV104 Riptide Battlesuits (240pts)
····Riptide Shas'vre (240pts) [Ion Accelerator (5pts), Stimulant Injector (35pts), Twin-linked Smart Missile System, Velocity Tracker (20pts)]

XV8 Crisis Battlesuits (156pts)
····Crisis Shas'ui (52pts) [2x Cyclic Ion Blaster (30pts)]
····Crisis Shas'ui (52pts) [2x Cyclic Ion Blaster (30pts)]
····Crisis Shas'ui (52pts) [2x Cyclic Ion Blaster (30pts)]

XV8 Crisis Bodyguards (186pts)
····Crisis Bodyguard (62pts) [2x Cyclic Ion Blaster (30pts)]
····Crisis Bodyguard (62pts) [2x Cyclic Ion Blaster (30pts)]
····Crisis Bodyguard (62pts) [2x Cyclic Ion Blaster (30pts)]

+ Troops (252pts) +

Strike Team (81pts) [9x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle (81pts)]

Strike Team (81pts) [9x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle (81pts)]

Strike Team (90pts) [10x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle (90pts)]

+ Fast Attack (110pts) +

Pathfinder Team (55pts) [5x Pathfinder (55pts)]

Pathfinder Team (55pts) [5x Pathfinder (55pts)]

+ Heavy Support (415pts) +

TX7 Hammerhead Gunships (175pts)
····TX7 Hammerhead Gunship (175pts) [2x MV1 Gun Drone, Longstrike (45pts), Railgun with Submunitions (5pts)]

TX7 Hammerhead Gunships (125pts)
····TX7 Hammerhead Gunship (125pts) [2x MV1 Gun Drone, Railgun]

TX78 Sky Ray Gunships (115pts)
····TX78 Sky Ray Gunship (115pts) [2x MV1 Gun Drone]

>>46981018
>picks his powers, not rolls
>spend one Warp Charge for a 2++, no Deny the Witch allowed.

He's good, but the game has developed such creep and he's no long as dangerous as he once was, but it doesn't change the fact he's still a poorly designed character.

How do I determine points for the Imperial Guard? An infantry squad in the Codex, for example, lists 1 sergeant and 9 Guardsmen, and says that two guardsmen may form a Heavy Weapons Team.

The Start Collecting box comes with 9 Guardsmen, a Sergeant, and 1 Heavy Weapons team, which is why I'm confused about it.

Has anyone tried the waaagh every turn perma-2++ ghazzy build yet?

Was is it any *fun*?

>>46981052
You're Tau, you'll be fine.

Just don't let him close. Focus fire the nearest threat (most likely the Tyrants if he rushes them ahead.

>>46981099
>The Start Collecting box comes with 9 Guardsmen, a Sergeant, and 1 Heavy Weapons team, which is why I'm confused about it.
The heavy weapon in the start collecting box is an optional thing, it would replace two of the lasgun wielding dudes if you wanted to give your infantry squad a heavy weapon.

>>46980690
Alright, I really shouldn't be surprised. What the fuck is that kind of business practice? Glad I pirated all BL books, though I deleted about 3/4th of them after reading the first couple of pages, even the ones I enjoyed were quite badly written.

>>46981109
I mean it's a standard Deathstar and basically an Ork equalivant of a footslogging Imperium Superfriends list.

One nice thing about it is your army gets to pretend to be Tyranids and be Fearless.

>>46981116
Oh, okay, that makes a lot more sense now, thanks mate!

Debating between giving him the Autocannon or Lascannon. Both seem great and they both look awesome.

Also debating between the Standard Russ, or the Exterminator.

>>46981142
I recommend the the lascannon for heavy anti tank. and getting some ap 2 in your army. That said, both are viable so save your bitz.

>>46981130
>>46981130
They don't want the regular hardcover and digital version to compete with the limited edition hardcover. They have to give the LE enough time to sell out. It's not that hard to understand.

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>>46980907

>>46981018
I take it you don't see tourney play
Loth must be that FW guy everyone takes to auto get invisibility

>>46978802
The folder seems to be missing newer White Dwarfs. Is there a reason for that?

>>46980295
This better be good, I'm new and really like the fiction. This guy, primarch of the ultramarines, is the most iconic? I mean the blue space Marines that are the face of 40k are his genetic decendants if I am correct? It's going to be my first 40k product.

I'm going to love being exposed as the guy that's not supposed to be here...

>>46981080
Oh yeah he's good, but WAACfaggotry? Just cause he can take Invisibility.

>>46981177
Yet Carnac has shown pictures of his purchases, which are dollars. So he must be Canadian then.

>>46981182
I don't no. But a single demolisher cannon shot ends his existence. A Tactical Squad could end his existence. He's 2+ with 2W. Even with T7 he'd still die easy enough. Only way he won't is if he takes Iron Arm, Endurance and whatever that other one is. Then he doesn't have Invisibility.

>>46981177

Only thing about Carnac that matters is that he should go back to namefagging so it's simpler to just skip over his posts instead of having to read his insipid faggotry.

>>46981227
>Yet Carnac has shown pictures of his purchases, which are dollars. So he must be Canadian then
I have never seen those pictures before, but I keep hearing about them.

>>46981227
Well 100% guaranteed Invis was a good thing. Sevrin has lost some of his power since the coming of Librarius Conclaves and he cant be included in those.

>>46981222
No, you're supposed to be here, but it's unwise that you are, simply cause /tg/ is shit. /40kg/ is also shit. We're all autists flinging insults at each other. The key is to avoid the shit. Oh and don't piss into an ocean of piss. Shitposting is pointless.

Ultramarines are the most iconic, yeah. Rowboat Girlyman isn't the most iconic Primarch, but he is the head of the Ultramarines and GW keep trying to big him up as something insane.

The writer of this book, I really enjoy. So I hope it's good. Shame i'll probably miss the next ones...

>>46981221
Dunno. OP has copied my general OP from another general, which I copied from another general. Bar the novel bit which I added myself.

>>46981256
See >>46980727

>>46981258
I'd love an Apoc formation where you combine the Chief Librarians into a single force. Tigirus, Loth, Mephiston, Azrael, Ulric. Also GK's need a Chief Librarian.

>>46981227
Checking the archives, I wasn't even in that thread. I have no idea why that guy thinks I am liberal.

Really funny considering I am with the side that wants to make America great again.

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>>46978802
Fix for chaos/nerfing eldar when?

>>46981258
>Sevrin has lost some of his power since the coming of Librarius Conclaves and he cant be included in those.

FW says he can, kinda.

>>46980951
He's a big guy

>>46981310
Well as long as there isnt official Errata about it, he cant. FW always says in their emails that you can do whatever you want if opponents agree to it.

>>46981286
So many people impersonate you, I can't trust it's you either.

>>46981310
>>46981258
He can join a Conclave. Red Scorpions are a "Vanilla" army. So they follow the rules and units in that codex, sans their special tactics and units. That means a Conclave can be taken and since Sevrin is a Librarian, he can be dropped in.

>>46981283
>Azrael.... You wot m8?

>>46981383
>>46981283

I mean Ezekiel or whatever. Sorry.

>>46981362
No he cant be. Sure, he's a librarian. But if we read into RAW, hes not "Librarian" as in the unit. Even Tigurius, the only named Librarian in the codex, needs a special permission.

>>46981052
Can't take skyrays in hunter cadre, senpai.

>>46981415
Curse you anon. Let me break the rules!

Forge World are being incredibly slow with Badab War update and IA14.

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Meta is full of Tau and Skathach Wraithknights

# 1850 Point list

## Forsworn Knight Detachment

Renegade Knight - 475 pts
* 2x Rapid Fire Battle Cannons, Stormspear Rocket Pod

Renegade Knight - 435 pts
* 2x Avanger Gatling Cannon

## Cyclopia Cabal - 375 pts

3x Sorcs - 125 pts
* ML lvl 2, Bike, Spell Familiar, VotLW

## Purge Detachment - Renegades of Vraks (565pts)

HQ
Renegade Command Squad (45pts)

Elites
2x Renegade Chaos Spawn (55pts)

Heavy Support
3x Renegade Rapier Laser Destroyer Battery (79pts)
* Militia Training, 3x Rapier, 3x extra Crew

Renegade Rapier Laser Destroyer Battery (73pts)
* Militia Training, 3x Rapier, 1x extra Crew

Fortification
Void Shield Generator (100pts)
* 3x Projected Void Shields

>>46981227
>Just cause he can take Invisibility.
Yes.

Anyone who tailors his list to ENSURE he gets invisibility should either expect an ITC ruling implemented just to nerf it, or get called a WAAC faggot.

Invisibility has been cancer for as long as it has existed in its current form. The design is so horrifically bad and clearly broken, that it honestly should just be straight up gutted in a quick FAQ from GW.

If you get it by chance with a ML2 psyker, it is fine -you take what you got. If you take steps to ENSURE you get it? Go fuck yourself.

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>>46980295
Well done, guys.

More than a half of the copies were sold already in just a few hours. Just a little more. The Avenging Son needs you!

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>>46981428
Im going to piss more into your cereals: if going by the RAW, only units called "Librarians" can choose the new spells. That excludes all special characters and Space Wolf Rune Priests.

(Clear RAI is that they can have it but if playing by the RAW, you're fucked)

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>>46978844

>>46981506
Just make friend with the people running the tournament and just send them an "email" before hand to allow it :^)

Had a fun idea for inquisition armies. What if they got formations with every faction based on which Inquisitor you took? Even with non imp armies: tau or eldar could have an Alien Mercenary formation that would bump Tau up to allies of conv., only with an Ordo xenos warlord. Ordo malleus could get something special with daemons/CSM/GKs, Hereticus with SoB, Renegades and Heretics, Guard, dangles/wolfies, etc. "pure" imp formations could get preferred enemy.

>>46981506
I don't know ANYONE who claims wolf priests can use the new powers. Because that would be fucking retarded. That is like saying you will melee using your ranged weapons profile.
>but CLEARLY RAI...!
Clearly RAI is that I can always fire my ranged weapon in close combat, they just made a clear contradiction in the rulebook by mistake!

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>>46981052
Taufag here.

interesting list. looks fun.

You can drop one of your elite choices to add an auxillary drone unit and get hunter contingent. Cadre isn't really doing much for you unless you plan to flatout and shoot your hammerheads... Or get changed and enjoy 12" supporting fire.

Your infantry is going to break and bolt by turn 2 without sergeants or fish. This will be hilarious and everybody will like it.

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>>46981570
I would. Because this card comes with the new powers. And the codex says so, too

>>46981416
Wow. You're right. Thanks, Anon.

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No FAQ this week

>>46981506
Even more amusingly that box doesn't allow access to anyone but Codex: Space Marines.

Space marines, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, and Grey Knights are all their own faction, and the book only allows Space Marines Faction librarians to take new powers

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>>46981951
Actually the page hints that any space marines can have it. On two other rules on the same page it speaks about Codex: Space Marines-

>>46982034
Wait fucking what? God I messed up superbly those underlinings. Haha oh wow, I need to get some sleep.

But you'll get the point!

>>46982034
Well yes, its clearly RAI that all marines get it.
But Space Marine Faction and Space Marine Detachment and Space Marine Chapter are all defined terms that already exist in other places that refer to armies from Codex: Space Marines.

Unless the book re-defines the Space Marine Faction to be any army from a 'space marine' book, RAW locks everything from that supplement to C:SM

Not that I would ever enforce that with my local gaming group, but its amusing to realize that GW marketed this whole thing as "any marine can use it!" then fucked up the rules that allowed that

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>>46981756
>Post yfw Dreadnoughts attack number remains the same

>>46979082
S4 AP2

>>46981601
Then I am apparently blind. Enlighten me, master of vision, where does it say wolf priests can take it?

>>46982168
Right-most column. What other casters do Space Wolves have than Rune priests?

>>46982078
>all marines
*all space marine librarians

>>46982152
With the old distort rule, as in auto wounds on 6's with Instant death and auto pen on vehicles on 6's

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>>46982131

>mfw they close the Blitz Brigade loophole

>>46982198
>it says I can attack with a weapon in close combat, what else would it refer to but my multimelta?

Stop being retarded. It wouldhave said PSYKER if they intended any kind of space marine psyker to have these powers. Librarian is a specific model, and a wolf priest is not a librarian.

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>>46982131
>people still using FAQs to beg for buffs

>>46982253
Im actually being logical here, not autistic retard. But I agree. If we go by the raw, Only units called Librarians can have them when its pretty clear RAI that all space marine psykers can roll from those tables.

Also Cataphartii captains can buy a bike. Imagine terminator riding on a attack-bike platform.

So yeah. The books needs an FAQ. Good thing they might actually now make one!

>>46982253
To be fair, you're technically correct. Wolf Priest can't is take any of the new powers. Because he isn't even a Psyker.
A Wolf Priest is the Space Wolf equalivant of a Chaplain/Apothecary.
A Rune Priest is the Librarian equalivant
>Rune Priests should've been named Rune Wolves

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>>46978844
Ultrafags beat by the One Lamenters guy who still gives a fuck. You can't make this up.

>>46982336
Well, considering that this anon >>46981283 wanted Ulrik the Slayer as part of a great librarian conclave maybe they actually have some kind psychic power we don't know anything about

>>46982336
>Rune Priest
Still can't take the new powers.

>>46982302
Yeah, the new terminator armour variant being allowed on bikes is ridiculous. That will almost certainly be clarified in the FAQ

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>>46980361
There is

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With the boost to the Black Legion Formation, is it worthwhile to bring Abbadabbadoobadon and his crew with combi-plas? Bs5 plasma is decent and Abaddons a wrecking ball.

Take Huron and they infiltrate. Take Belakkor and theyre invisible.

Or is this still overpriced garbage no matter what?

Im trying to run a Huron warlord infiltration list, but everything in the codex is either too flimsy to infiltrate, or too expensive to make its investment back.

>>46982286

Of course you should use FAQs to beg for buffs on weaker units. And nerfs on extreme units. This especially goes for cases with flagrant precedence such as marines can do X but Redmarines can't.

That's the entire point of eratta, rebalancing shit.

>>46982471
Stop being autistic, WAACfag and go play some friendly matches instead of shitting up the thread.

>>46982607
>WAACfag
You are the faggot trying to bend the rules to use OP as fuck powers on units that cannot take it.

But do enlighten me, what have I said that even HINTS at me being a WAAC player?

>>46982700
And now you got butthurt so its pretty clear. I rest my case.

Alright, this is what I have so far, is this a good list?

Imperial Guard:
-Armoured Shield Formation
-Leman Russ Exterminator, 130
+Heavy Bolter Sponsons, 20
+Hull Mounted Lascannon, 10
+Camo Netting, 15
-175 points.

-Commissar, 25
-Infantry Squad, 50
+Heavy Weapons Team, Autocannon, 10
+Guardsman with Flamer, 5
+Guardsman with Vox Caster, 5
-Total, 95 points.

-Complete Total, 270 Points.

>>46982720
Alright, i fell for a fairly obvious troll. My bad.

>>46982859
Your weapon choice on the tank is all over the place, don't do that.
Vox caster does nothing for you.

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>>46982859

What kind of game are you playing?

>>46982700
The fact that you don't want a unit that obviously can take the powers to have it, because if a codex different from yours become stronger yours become comparatively weaker.
It's like the people claiming that the Tau decurion doesn't affect the powers of the commander because "it says including markerlight, so it must mean only markerlight"
It's stupid, ridiculously overpowered and should be changed at the first possible occasion? Sure, but claiming that the rule doesn't work that way only shows that you are a WAACfag extremely butthurt that another codex may kick your ass

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>>46982230
>yfw in doing so they also stop passengers in jinking transports from firing at full BS
bye bye dark eldar ;^)

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So what happened to Chapter Master?

>>46982859
>Exterminator
>with lascannons
anon no

>>46982917
Got it, heard that the vox caster was useful, and I thought that the lascannon might be useful.

>>46982925
I don't know, still trying to figure out everything.

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I guess this is why I shouldn't of let my opponent set up terrain

>>46982962

Nobody plays Dark Eldar.

>>46983014
What's the issue?

>>46983000
What? I usually play 2x2 Exterminators with LC and sponson MM's. They work wonders like that, especially when there are Troijans giving them Preferred Enemy.

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>Decide to get back into Warhammers after 10+ years
>No longer £15 for 20 Cadian Shock Troopers
>Rhinos no longer cost £12
>These prices

The fuck happened?

>>46983014
>being able to literally move through building with 4 of those units
>complaining there are too many buildings.

>>46983014

>Why can't my Riptides erase your units on turn 1?!

>>46983043
autocannons are to low ap to remove heavy infantry and to low strength to remove anything but transports reliably

you're always wasting half of your setup like that either go anti vehicle or go anti infantry , trying to do both is a waste of half your tank

>>46983052
Swear Rhinos were always £15?

>>46981506
Yea, this pretty much confirms it given forgeworld's stance on their characters. Sevrin Loth confirmed for Veil of Time bullshit. He's now the cheapest Unkillable Deathstar at only 185 points with a 2+/2++/2+++. All he needs is HIS OWN PERSONAL SECONDARY HONOUR GUARD, to enjoy their rerollable 2+ armour saves.

>>46983125
Autocannon is twinlinked, has good volume of fire and has high enough strength to hurt almost anything in this game. They havent failed me in any game I've fielded them because they couldnt do their job. And their job is to be generalist, hunting and hurting almost anything but mostly just bang up enemy transports and MC's.

Its a good set-up on paper and 20+ games I've fielded them proves it.

>>46983000
Why, either just with LC or with LC and MM sponsons, it is rather good as a metal-box opener for light /medium armored stuff

>>46983157
when the first plastic rhino was released you could get it in packs of three I forget the cost. What i'm getting at is no it hasn't always been £15.

the 'current' (as in 3ed) space marines where £10 for 10 whereas by around 2006 they were £15/18.

>>46983191
>>46983203
Wait, so should I stick to the setup I have, or switch to Multi-Melta sponsons?

Also, why are Vox Casters not good?

>>46983245
Rather go with MM's, they are more useful than HB's for same price.

And vox casters are extra for things that help you, sure. But you shouldnt count your tactics on succesful orders.

>>46983228
Ah, I started around 2005-2006 so that's why I remember them always being £15 or so. Same with the space marines

>>46983245
Vox casters are for orders and you have nothing that give orders in that army.

>>46979148
>Cowboy Marines chapter

... perhaps you'd like them to wear wide brimmed hats too, sheriff badges and spurs?

>>46983296
Alright, got it.

Changing that makes the total to 265 points.

>>46983341
Ah, I see.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du0emDgJ-L4

>>46982988

There's a new version under development at Bay12. Supposedly a cleaned up version of the old one, too, but nobody has heard about that for a while.

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>>46983365

>a games workshop filled with girls and people of colour

>>46983365
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8TuA-o8pnw

>>46979088
Op here I made the new thread from my cellphone, didn't had other image and 4chan told me there was a duplicate error.

>>46982943
>because if a codex different from yours become stronger yours become comparatively weaker.
Space Marine fags in a nutshell.
"Waaah Blood Angels SUCK now, we want A4 dreads and buffs to Scouts!"
"You still have a good army, I mean, Fast vehicle upgrades, flamers out the ass, your Dreads can be air-dropped and upgraded to ignore Dangerous Terrain..."
"NOPE BLOOD ANGELS SUCK GW HATES US"

>>46983008
Read the codex already. Just hearing what's useful does not mean put in list.

Can havocs have 5 more squad members who wield just bolters?

>>46983705
Literally lists that option in their codec entry, go read it

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Psychotroke grenades, 15 points. Seems decent against Crons and cruel against Orks.
Yay/Nay?
Roll a d6 for effect:

>1 - no effect
>2 - Enemy unit is hit Automatically. Enemy unit can only make a single attack per model.
>3 - Reroll failed hits.
>4 - Enemy unit is Ld2.
>5 - Enemy unit is I1.
>6 - Every model in enemy unit must take an initiative check. Models that fail must attack their own unit.

>>46983734
It wrecks the shit out of units that don't have fearless/pseudo-fearless/ATSKNF

>>46983245
The thing with a Leman Russ setup it, that it should be done with a goal in mind. Now for ~250pts you have all kinds of gaps open, but they question is: What do you want it to do? Go against monsters and light tanks? The multimelter sponsons do help, however they have a rather short range 24'. A plasma cannon has 36' is is far more likely to hit, due to it being a blast, but has less effect on tanks and is worse to wound against most monsters. Furthermore you might use it as an improvised air defence for which the plasma cannons are useless. Heavy bolters would help against monsters but generally lack the strength against vehicles or flyers. They too have bigger range of 36'.

Your main weapons, the exterminator cannon and the lascannons have 48' for comparison.

You see it is not that easy and there is no definite answer.
I kind of would go for plasma as they have the range to hit the enemies backfield and work against everything except fliers, but there is the drawback of an increased price and you could wound your tank with them. (for every shot you roll a die, if it shows a 1 roll another, if that shows 1-3 you loose a Hullpoint ->Gets Hot on a vehicle)

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>>46983734
> Throw one at a 150-man Green Tide squad
> Orks now need to roll 150 Initiative Tests\
> 2/3rd of them fail it
> 90 Ork Boyz now have to make 270 attacks against their own unit
> MFW the Ork Player instantly loses 90% of his army in a single shooting phase

>>46983039

My deployment zone was full of terrain, so it was hard to move the tanks, I didn't take the spines thing that lets me move through cover so I couldn't move them over the buildings (rookie mistake I guess). His zone had a nice clear area to deploy, and 2 big bits of scenery to hide his big guys who shit out little guys

I managed to kill one of his flying tyrants turn 1 but everything else I shot he said had a 2+ cover save (even though it was in the open, he said cos part of the unit was in 6" of some floating thing it got 2+ cover, which didnt sound right to me). Then those spawning units just shat out loads of stuff. He said if they roll doubles they stop, but cos he had 3 he had a formation where he picks the best dice, so they can never roll doubles to stop spawning or some shit

>>46983595
Nice name calling. I'm surprised you didn't say I'm a Taufag too since I talked about their decurion.

It's really obvious that Rune Priests would be able to take those powers too. What would you say, that Tigurius can't take that power because the name of the unit is "Chief Librarian Tigurius" instead of Librarian?

>>46983818
Man if only you were playing on a billiards table and had a load of access to ignores cover. Shame you forgot the cheap upgrade to ignore even more of the rules!

>>46979223
cape with turbine intake jetpack. what can possibly go wrong.

>>46983818
Flyrants get 3+ cover from Shrouded + Jink, +2 if Night Fight.

That Tervigon formation doesn't exist though...

>>46983734
Once wrecked a deathstar with 2x inquisitors in full 12 man squad featuring 2 priest, 2 crusaders and 8 Power maul/axe death cult assasins. Managed to throw 5 and 6 for the grenades - the only few models from the wolfstar managed to pass the check and those were normal wolves. In the end every single character died (they hit their unit and they themselves are the closest model to be slain) and my powermaul fielding cultits slayed most of the chaff-wolves. After that assault phase, my opponent conceded.

>>46983942
Nothing. It may look like a cape but it is solild armor to protect against sneaky beakies.

>>46983952
Wait, 4-2=2+ cover... Sorry my bad, brain trying to fuck with me

>>46982943
>a unit that obviously can take the powers to have it
Fuck of marine faggot. You obviously CAN'T take it. Read the god damn rules you faggot.

It says EXACTLY who can take it. There is no room for interpretation here. You are being ridiculously dense by insisting other units can take it.

>>46983952

The formation doesn't exist? Really? That's hilarious. He said his little shooty dudes had 2+ in open ground

New thread

>>46984064

>>46984064

>>46984064

>>46984047
That doens't work either. Nothing in the game currently can manage 2+ cover in open terrain. Plus the floaty thingies only give shrouded, which is +2 cover. they would need to be IN ruins to grab a 2+

>>46983952
>>46984047
Incubator node.

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>>46980498
>cute

bish looks like quasimodo

>>46984080
>Your post is 329
>Page 7

Stop making new generals so often, at least get to 350-400 posts or page ten. Ideally the latter. You retards are the reason people continually ask the same shit and meme the same meme.

>>46983825
>It's really obvious that Rune Priests would be able to take those powers too.
No. It. Fucking. Isnt.

It gives you a crystal clear definition of who can take it, and you STILL dont understand it? How stupid are you? Like, holy fuck man, how are you even getting through the captcha?

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>>46984080
He's the chicken pusher
Same guy that gets ass blasted every time the chicken is gone.