Eclipse Phase General

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>>46887659
Old thread >>46771617

Based on OP image...
/EPG/ GLORIOUS SPACE SOVIET EDITION

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WnbyIiawAriRepb1UAmXfkrlAiNEKEpzaYM-RDdQD-U/edit#

An old item off the EP forums, but a good one.
The Self-Constructing Outpost - basically a colony builder in a mobile box.
Discuss what GLORIOUS SOVIET SPACE COLONY you would build.

>>46887816
A power supply and a shit ton of CMs, plus bots to shovel raw material into the CMs, and some nanohives for open-air fabrication.

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throw bombs, not shit! Barsoom is the future of indentures and uplifts!

>>46887741

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cosmonauts

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Klaatu has come to deliver the people of earth an ultimatum, to live in peace with the peoples of the galaxy or have their planet destroyed before they spread their violence to the stars. He is instead met with an entirely more complex situation.

And how does transhumanity answer?

>>46888249
CMs sound way too slow for fabbing large slabs and shit like that.

>>46888622
>people of Earth
They're dead.

>>46888622

Been there, done that.

>>46888622
>have their planet destroyed before they spread their violence to the stars

Too late, asshole. Good luck figuring out all those Gate addresses ;^)

>>46888622
>meets the scum
>dazzled with the glorious tales of post scarcity society by social engineer ancoms
>introduced to advanced drugs and harm free ultraviolence
>teach him modern love
>while the punny alien flat is dazed hack into gort
>jack the flying saucer, dump him on either mars or titan, whichever's closer.
>welcome to sol

>>46889747

Pods are mostly organic, even if they're force-grown clones. That looks more synthetic than anything.

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>>46889979

Yeah?

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>>46890550

So yeah, in general, art direction on Pods seems pretty consistent. The only big exceptions to the heavy lines or other obvious synthetic elements are some of the more animalistic pods (Ripwings, Novacrabs, Scurriers, etc) and for some reason the Jenkin, but that fucker is already pretty ugly.

>>46888659
The CMs are for fabbing the slab fabbers

>>46890598

I do see the pattern, but the fluff is also pretty clear on page 27 of the main rulebook.

>Pods: Mixed biological-synthetic morphs. Pod clones
>are force-grown and feature cyberbrains. Also known as
>biobots, skinjobs, replicants. From “pod people.”

So either that's wrong, or art direction fucked up and later chose to stick with the more android-y look for consistency's sake.

>>46887659

The ETI probe is in the sun, and is the size of a Gas Giant.

Discuss.

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>>46891204

Well yeah, the fluff tends to evolve as they release more books for one, and for second it does explicitly say mixed biological/synthetic. Doesn't the terminology for saying how long it takes to make different morphs even say pods are "assembled"? Later works especially describe them as hodgepodges where different cloned bio elements are bridged with synthetics.

>>46891301
Also, the moon is made of femtocheese

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>>46890536
apparently vac pods are super generic, so its good they build them handsome.

I FOUND A TINY PANDORA GATE AND STUCK MY NOB IN IT AND NOW MY NOB IS GONE! BUT IT STILL FEELS, AND IT IS GOOD!

>>46892196

Speaking of Gates, I'd love to figure out how to move one, and change its dimensions, then stick it on a ship.

>>46892483
Why?

>>46892542

Moonlight across the galaxy.

I make it sound easier than it likely would be.

>>46892561
Okay. What's the spaceship for then?

>>46892697
retrieving that nob

>>46892719

You know with basic biomods it should grow back, right?

>>46893307
And even if it didn't it would certainly be easier to get a new morph.

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>>46893383

Well, a healing vat would definitely grow that back, which would definitely be easier.

>>46893455
True. My real point is that the list of things other than finding the dick you lost "somewhere in the universe" is more difficult than pretty much any alternative.

>>46893500
its more out of curiosity than anything else. besides, its not my ship, its the gate mover guy's. I just have a fork stowed away on board that will probably try to start a mutiny, for science.

>>46893658
How many decades into the journey will you be staging this mutiny?

>>46891371
and you can get to neverland through the vulcanoid gate, but there are already rich venusian vacationers there

>>46893723
I haven't the foggiest, I'm not him. But if I know me my advice would to just keep things interesting and you won't have anything to worry about, I'm rather distractible.

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Jenkins really are ugly as sin though

>>46894313
But think of the female Jenkin with the enormous butt and boobs! Put a nanny-bag over her head and feed her a Hither/Grin/Alpha/Juice cocktail and have some fun.
Or the inevitable scum salespeople who think it's fucking hilarious to sleeve Jenkins deliberately designed to look like The Happy Merchant and go around outrageously swindling people and seeing who's dumb enough to give them shekels. Which they then donate to whatever charity org they think would upset the most people.

>>46894391
>Strength Through Joy, the venusian charity to provide working genitals to martian and lunar synthmorphs, in an effort to raise morale within the inner system. It's primarily funded by venusian donors, with contributions from crowdsourcing efforts among the scum, and its also the most widely donated to charity on exotropia, though that isn't saying much. Remember, a happy workforce is an economically dominating one.

Why are all the factions evil?
Where are the paladins?

>>46895707
All of them and none of them.
There are none.

>>46895746
Dammit. Now I've got no license to kill people.

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>>46895811
yet you will anyways, and marvel at how it does not stick.

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>>46887659
Rereading Farcast, one thing that really stands out is how no matter where you go or what you do, you will not be allowed to live your life in peace. Every entry is a new terrorist cell or project or organization or person dedicated to destroying any barriers you put up to protect your way of life. You can't opt out of transhumanity, someone (or something) is going to force its way in and make you a part of the homogeneous slurry that is the rest of the Solar System, whether you like it or not. Their right to draft everyone into neverending culture wars overrides your right to be left alone, or to have anything to yourself.

It's an interesting alternate lens to view the world through because it takes the default assumptions of Eclipse Phase, mainly that transhumanism and the accelerated future are good and anyone who tries to resist them is evil, and turns them on their head.

>>46901143
>the homogeneous slurry that is the rest of the Solar System,
lol
>It's an interesting alternate lens to view the world through because it takes the default assumptions of Eclipse Phase, mainly that transhumanism and the accelerated future are good and anyone who tries to resist them is evil, and turns them on their head.
Pretty sure that's because they're intended to be adventure plot hooks, not a representative slice of transhuman activities.

>>46901770
>transhumans aren't evil, anon, that's just plot hooks!

Nice try, but you aren't going to peel me, freak. After I kill myself nobody will get my excellent brain.

>>46901831
Don't be a selfish brain-hogger, man. Think of all those poor indentures with sub-par brains! Don't you want them to have a chance to share in an excellent brain?

>>46902275
Of course, it's always 'muh property rights' with you shills, until someone wants their oily metal hands all over my precious gray matter

What kind of morphs and variants have you added to the setting?

>>46904410
None. I'm trying to remove them all.

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>>46904410
heavy weapon mod cases

>>46904840 said it. There are already too many morphs that do the same thing.

>>46905607
they aren't races like in DnD, they're products, I think its fine that they overlap

>>46905691
Yeah this. The various IRL car brands also all do the same thing for example.

>>46901831
Be sure to use explosives. Rodriguez tried to off himself with a knife, but it didn't stick. I've run into what they turned him into three times now. He (well, she, now) always knows what we're going to do. I think the only reason we're still alive is that whatever confused abomination they created, it genuinely thinks it's trying to help us.

>>46906113
"DON'T LEAVE 'EM ANYTHING TO PEEL!"
-Motto of 32nd Naval Infantry, Jovian Space Defense Force

>>46906113
Damn, poor bastard. I told him sealing himself in the glass ball was the better plan.

>>46904410
Martian variants of common elite morphs. Low-cost "bio pods" that are biomorphs (and a biological brain) assembled like pods (for those who want biomorphs but more easily manufactured). Stealth variants of common morphs, include low budget ghost variants. "Suit" morphs, that are both fully functional battlesuits and effective morphs without a meatbag, and a series of "suit core" morphs (synths) that can be placed inside a suit morph to enhance its functionality.

>>46906969
thats an incredibly bad plan

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>>46907148
>"Suit" morphs, that are both fully functional battlesuits and effective morphs without a meatbag, and a series of "suit core" morphs (synths) that can be placed inside a suit morph to enhance its functionality.

Solid concept

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>>46907180
though on reflection I've gotta say, better than using a knife, so you're not wrong

>>46907198
why would someone want a claw like that? It seems like it would be really cumbersome in daily life.

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>>46907300

I presume it's for crushing. I mean, girl has like a jolly roger bra or bikini top on and two robot hands, I assume she's not doing a 9-to-5.

>>46907300
Just swap arms. presumably the mount has plug-and-play capability.

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how do martian movies portray jovians and titanians, and vice versa?

>>46907527

I feel like there must be a "how does this faction view other factions" section which gives some guidance on this.

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>>46906223
so do you guys really believe that the interdiction blockade around earth is operated by TAHI?

>>46906969
Just stick your head in a jailbroken disassembler.

>>46907819
Fuck that, I wanna live!

>>46907578
Not really, which is why we have so few insults used by non-Anarchist factions.

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>>46907785
No, but if it was they'd be goddamned heroes

>>46907844
>>46907819
>>46906969
>>46906113
>>46906223
Is it stated anywhere in canon that Jovians usually kill themselves rather than be captured, tortured and forcibly uploaded, or am I remembering something that was never in the books?

>>46907973
There's a short clip of a political ad that basically paints one of the candidates for the PC as an anarchist sympathizer threatening our way of life. I would say most inner system peeps view the anarchists paronzingly, certain they'll see the error of their ways and come crawling back to capitalism soon. Titan on the other hand is a bigger threat because they have economic clout and access to a gate that's used for a lot of commerce. The hyper corps are spending a lot of effort trying to enter Titanian markets as well as memetic warfare to get the younger generation interested in devolution

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>>46907300
I imagine that, in EP at least, the claws would be smart matter or be capable of extruding or unfolding into smaller digits (fractal digits maybe?) to handle most day to day tasks.

>>46907785
>>46908338
Really? If it is them, they're goddamned traitors for not helping us get ready to take Earth back. But all we seem to be training for these days are habitat-borne ops; no one in the Fleet seems to even be thinking about the kind of years-long commitment we'd need to make to really make a push for Earth, and if they were - well, I'd have heard. I wouldn't talk about it, mind, but I'd have heard.

If TAHI really is running the blockage, the only thing stopping us from taking Earth back is treason, or fear of the unknown. And we're not that afraid, not anymore.

Personally, I think the 'TAHI controls the blockade' rumors are just propaganda. Necessary, maybe, to counter PC propaganda that they're the ones running the blockade. The truth, though? I think the PC is going through extraordinary efforts to maintain the fiction that they're really in charge of the interdiction satellites, and either they don't know who really runs them - or they do, and it fucking terrifies them.

>>46908338
I don't think it's stated anywhere, but then, my opinion is that everyone - Jovian or not - tries to self destruct rather than be captured. The consequences for failure are too dire.

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>>46908444
Good digits

One idea I've had rattling around in my head for more Eclipse Phase writefaggotry is something set during a Titanian occupation of a Jovian habitat, where the Scandis expected to be greeted as liberators bringing lifesaving, life changing technology and resources, but are instead shocked to find that the oppressed masses don't like having their soldiers shot and their streets patrolled by monsters. That the Jovians will fight for their right to live in hell.

>>46909039
That's one option for a "Titanians at war" story. But they're not gonna be able to pull something like that off in Jovian orbit - it's just not going to happen, the Jovians will break out the antimatter and KKVs before they allow a significant Titanian military presence in their system, and they'll be fighting on home turf.

So that means a Jovian-aligned habitat elsewhere. The best place is probably in the Jovian Trojans, which is far enough away from both parties that utterly overwhelming troop and fire support isn't available. Preferably the group being 'liberated' is a point of contention within the Republic - perhaps a religious group that doesn't like the Republic very much, despite broadly conservative beliefs and under-the-table support from the Republic's intelligence services? Or a conservative-nationalist group (Russian, maybe, or Chinese) that is somewhat pissed about the seventeen minutes war and its aftermath. That would work, I think.

An alternative to that scenario: Kronos Cluster, Saturn. High population, right in Saturn's back yard (thus a very good reason for Titan to be concerned about bringing them FREEDOM and CYBERDEMOCRACY), currently under the control of a bunch of Ultimate jerks who basically ran a coup on the Extropians in charge. There's definitely reasons for Titan to be concerned and get involved, either through proxies or attempting outright occupation, but...at the same time, the autonomists who live there, even the ones not aligned with the Ultimates, are probably not going to be happy with a bunch of statists butting in. Not to mention Ultimates from across the system who will enjoy testing themselves against Titanian 'peacekeepers'.

Definitely some potential there.

>>46888354
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Deaths_in_space

>>46909039
I guess the problem is that they already know that, because jove is their big intimidating neighbor. I guess I mean to say that jovians aren't really misunderstood, they're known not to like the stuff they make their whole society about distaining

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>>46909270
Its a hab full of protestants, but otherwise jovian compliant. The titanians only have training to deal with catholic biocon guerillas, and this is only making things worse.

>>46909510
There's no Jovian state religion, kiddo.

>>46909270
The Commonwealth could take on the Jovians the same way the Jovians are about to take over Hyoden: infiltrating and subverting it at every level, including top leadership. This may be the source of the rumor that TAHI or even the Security Council has been behaving erratically or is secretly infected with the exsurgent virus

>>46909360
History is full of conquering armies which genuinely expected to be greeted as liberators and were surprised when they weren't. In most of the books the rest of the factions treat the Jovians like they're living under an oppressive military dictatorship they hate. It's only a small part of Rimward that mentions Jovians actually support conservative policies (namely the part about how the state has trouble suppressing bioconservative terrorist groups because the population broadly supports them)

>>46909510
>Northern Ireland 10 AF
Limey cunts get off my board

>>46909878

Yeah, strictly speaking the government of the Republic operates as a Precautionist, security-based state. Their coziness with religion and other socially conservative policies is as much about keeping the people placated as it is genuinely part of the Republic's core ethos, it's the citizenry who lynch resleeve techs and go to huge masses at the Holy See.

Really groups like the Security Council are just in it to keep potential BLACK FLAG vectors down and ensure military readiness, exactly what you'd expect from a government built from the ruins of a couple national militaries sitting on government-backed industry whose voting base is conservative refugees after an apocalypse.

>>46909878
>The Commonwealth could take on the Jovians the same way the Jovians are about to take over Hyoden

They might be able to disable the Jovians that way (though I highly doubt it; the Jovians are paranoid at all levels, their intelligence community is very good, and they don't really present a lot of useful attack surfaces), but it's kind of irrelevant to creating a scenario where Titanian troops are trying to keep order in Jovian space - there's no way they'd keep that quiet, and there's no advantage to doing so in any case if they've already effectively disabled the Jovian government.

>>46909714
Prepare to be excommunicated you heretic fuck

>>46909714
yes, but that doesn't make calvinists any more tolerable

>>46910141
>Protestants
>in the year 10 AF

Looks like you're on the wrong board. >>>r/schismatics

>>46910053
While I'd agree that many of them are big on victory at any cost I'm sure there are at least a few generals who are true believers, especially after that coup. Some of the old guard would feel that promoting the faithful would make new blood easy to manipulate, but nothing is more dangerous than a zealot

>>46910181
I definitely meant Catholicism. Guess you forgot that the Pope is parked in your front yard. But then you probably believe that you actually have representative democracy

>>46910239
>I don't acknowledge the authority of the Roman Church

*tips Sola Gratia*

>>46910053
>Yeah, strictly speaking the government of the Republic operates as a Precautionist, security-based state. Their coziness with religion and other socially conservative policies is as much about keeping the people placated as it is genuinely part of the Republic's core ethos, it's the citizenry who lynch resleeve techs and go to huge masses at the Holy See.

This bugs me about Jupiter because...well, why the fuck would all of the bioconservatives in the system move to *Jupiter* of all places? The very-far-away-from-Earth place with excessive amounts of radiation? Why would the bioconservatives be closely aligned with the military or elite political blocks from the Americas? If anything, you expect elites and military - especially space military - to be extremely transhuman. What about the workers on Jupiter pre-Fall; why would the well educated tech workers go along with plan "maximum bioconservative", especially since they are likely to have egocasted there in the first place?

For that matter, why wouldn't the bioconservatives (by definition, the people who escaped with their brains intact) settle...near Earth, in a hab and on Luna? Or Mars, the planet that at-least-theoretically will be terraformed at some point in the future? Making an Earth-Jupiter transit on a max transit, min dV course will take nearly three years, if the ship can even handle that!

It feels like someone thought "Jovian Junta" sounded cool and then based everything around that.

>>46910341
The Republic is bioconservative because it's secretly controlled by one of the last TITANs not infected with the exsurgent virus. It realize what was happening to its fellows and constructed the most secure possible society around itself in order to cut off as many vectors as it could. So far this gambit has paid off, with only a select few highly placed members of the government and security apparatus knowing of its existence.

>For that matter, why wouldn't the bioconservatives (by definition, the people who escaped with their brains intact) settle...near Earth, in a hab and on Luna?
There are plenty of bioconservatives on Luna and in Earth Orbit, in fact that's one of the most common memes in the region

>>46910341
A lot of Bioconservatives are on Luna. But the Republic being around Jupiter has more to do with geopolitics from the US colonizing there than anything. And this isn't the civilian government. This is the Enclave, a bunch of Cold War paranoid generals who just saw their big war finally happen and take almost all of humanity with them. Transhumanism is what caused this shit in their mind. Better to keep it rigidly controlled in their country and then secretly experiment with it under tight security and secrecy than let it run rampant. Make no mistake: high level Jovians likely use many of the same things they would declare a danger publicly

>>46910480
>Jovians as Paranoia

Now that's a conspiracy theory I can get behind you should totally run a game where the players find that out and have to decide whether having a TITAN tuning the Republic is a good thing or the ultimate betrayal

>>46910341

It's all incentives, really. The Jupiter system was being built up for lots of heavy government industry before the Fall, so they have a very strong energy and manufacturing economy. Jupiter basically inherited a big chunk of military assets after the Fall, and from there they strongly incentivised anyone who had their original bodies to move out there, probably carted them along with milspec ships as much as they could. As said, the government itself is basically "precautionist", they employ or understand much of the same tech base as the rest of the system they just keep it locked up behind closed doors. That, and they started throwing their weight around the gravity range of Jupiter. Both with travelers (Gravity Tax) and with locals.

Because of their association with Pan-America they got a decent draw on people out of South America, that brought in the Catholic influence, which as noted above a couple times is great for keeping that populace ready to go behind those rifles. If you're wondering why they'd move, would you rather live in an overcrowded, crappy cylinder with ASEANs, Central Asians, Europoors or the Africans? Pope says come to Jupiter - easy citizenship for anybody with a body.

But really, Jupiter is probably the smallest "superpower" with 45 mil population, but they have positive pop growth. The real "bioconservative" movement is pined in the LLA, with the guys who have been in space for years. JMars was gobbled up by the Planetary Consortium because they backed the Tharsis League and spearheaded the way for "new earth". This also makes sense, national governments didn't have strong military holdings on Mars around the Fall, martian colonies were already cooperating across national lines, just like in the LLA.

Also yes, short version is "we need to slip in a conservative polity and we REALLY like Altered Carbon", but that doesn't mean it doesn't work when you chain off earlier elements in the setting

Really, somebody in the writing room should be smart and have done something better with the idea of the Jovians and LLA in a distant alliance, that's a political plot hook if I ever did see.

>>46910524
the TITAN is going by Mithras now, and while good intentioned, its still a total dick.

>>46910644
That sounds like good adventure plot or sidebar, but as a major setting component I'm not sure it would work. As Bioconservative as the LLA is they have lots of synths which would make it difficult for the Jovians to want to work too closely with them. Plus the hyper corps would work hard to undermine that as the Junta is a huge drag on the free market

>>46910480
>There are plenty of bioconservatives on Luna and in Earth Orbit, in fact that's one of the most common memes in the region

Yes, but that being the case, it's not really emphasized the way Jovian bioconservatism is. What >>46910592 said doesn't really hold together; their energy and manufacturing economy doesn't need tons of manual labor, and in any case it still doesn't create bioconservative sympathies among the military and political elite - they may not like the hypercorps (with good reason, after national governments and megacorps were roundly fucked over by them), but they don't have any reason to buy into the 'transhumans will suck our souls' that justifies their current political divisions.

Nor can it all just be an act for the masses. They choose to import said masses, after all, and are explicitly stated to have people at the highest level who buy into this.

>>46910817

On the top level, it's not usually 'transhumans will suck our souls', but more 'transhumans keep trying to push the tech envelope without a care, they're gonna get us all eaten by evil computers again'. Which is another reason not to back the Planetary Consortium, who love to push new tech so they can make a profit.

>>46910817
>Nor can it all just be an act for the masses. They choose to import said masses, after all, and are explicitly stated to have people at the highest level who buy into this.

The whole setting is built around conspiracies anon it's not that farfetched. Likely it's a mix of both: some of the higher ups are just using Bioconservatives as a source of fervent soldiers while experimenting behind the scenes, while at the same time there are probably Adamas who have spent years making everything hardwired because they are super paranoid about Fall 2.0

>>46908444
Yeah, death is a lot better than being captured when it's so easy to put people in hellish virtual black sites the size of shoeboxes, and no one will ever find all of your forks.

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Somebody told me this games setting is written primarily from a left-libertarian/anarchist point of view. Can you guys confirm?

>>46911838
>written primarily from a left-libertarian/anarchist point of view. Can you guys confirm?
Literally five minutes of lurking in the thread would tell you that. They're also not libertarians, they fucking loathe libertarians. They're anarcho-communists.

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I'm going on a trip to earth, does anyone know where I could get a bunch of relatively undamaged jovian egos?

>>46911838
It definitely is. Especially as most of the setting stuff is written in character. That doesn't mean it's not a cool setting though. Plus the "anarchists are all too powerful" is a bit overblown, they have plenty of issues with their way of life in-setting. It's a game for philosophy there's room for everyone to contribute to humanity's extinction

>>46911431
Also, death is a mild inconvenience and a few stress from Lack that you can easily shave off, being captured is a liability to you, your team, Firewall, and your dear old Nan, potentially forever. No one wants to get captured and peeled in the spy game.

>>46911891
It's not a problem at all! That's why I'm interested in it. It's not everyday you run into a radical-leftist RPG system. I'm considering finding people to play it with now, actually.

>>46911942
>It's not everyday you run into a radical-leftist RPG system

You clearly haven't read any of the newer WoD books

Or Shadowrun

Or a lot of games coming out now, actually

>>46911877
>Undamaged
>Jovian egos

You're out of luck, friend, they're all lost causes. No matter what we do, all the ones we catch keep saying they want to go 'home' and see their 'families' again. My guess is it's some kind of engineered virus they've all been spreading back and forth since the Fall. Who even knows what's incubating in those septic habs, am I right?

>>46911942
Definitely check it out it's a really cool setting and the books are free. And hang around /epg/ for a while we could use a bit more ideological diversity instead of constant JOVIAN UBER ALES

>>46912035
>CofD
>Radical leftist
I mean, yes, tumblr is technically leftist, and they're certainly extreme, but I'm not sure I'd call it a game of radical leftists. Aside from Beast being all "Kill the cis scum for making fun of me being a demisexual otherkin!"

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>>46894313
Ugly Boys, boet.

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>>46912035
No, no, that's perfect, I'm gonna dress them up like ancient romans and have them serve me at basecamp. Might even take a few hunting with me and the court. If they want to be humble humans beholden to fate, living in a militarized republic and worship at their temple, then by all means we august immortals should help them along.

>>46912132
>demisexual
This is going to be one of those things that I regret looking up, isn't it?

>>46912387
>tfw I'm just trying to eat my white ball over here, but Apollo ruins my meal because he just can't keep it in his pants.

>>46888622
The likely first response, unless he beelines TO EARTH to make his ultimatum is

"Hey, welcome to the solar system, but nobody here can speak for the actions of any other on violence or any other issue."

>>46889979
Pods are intentionally given synthetic-looking seam lines. Presumably to make them visibly low class.

>>46912485
Basically means that you're not romantically/sexually attracted to people until you've gained an emotional attraction/connection to them. In shorter metaphors, you get friends who then become lovers.

>>46913738
Why do they need a special word for low libido?

>>46911838
Hyper corps nearer the sun, North Korea owns Jupiter, there's Rapture from Bioshock, the outer system is where you get your post scarcity communes. Lots of love in the book for outer system folk for sure, but really they're just a mixed bag of everyone who wants to be far from others.

>>46913761
It's not libido (I've seen demi's fuck like rabbits). It's a matter of who you can get a boner for.
Like stereotypical straight guys getting boners for anything that might feel good on their dick.

>>46914249
Still sounds normal enough not to need a word for it. They're not fucking special.

>>46914270
It's 1) because precision definitions (science loves those, because it means no misunderstandings typically), and 2) a response to people getting bullied in college over not popping a boner over every low cut shirt (and frats can get pretty damn bad about that, to prove cishet manhood)

>>46914362
That's right, I said CISHET MANHOOD.
I can no longer be taken seriously on /TG/ and have been regulated to comedic relief.

>>46914362
Calling yourself a "demisexual" is not going to help people getting bullied. Also, mental discipline is a good thing.

>>46914362
I liked the world a lot better when people suffered their faggy lives quietly instead of making up reams of bullshit to vindicate why they are giant whiny pussies and then smearing it all over every medium and in every discussion.

>>46910341
That's not what happened.

With the exception of Hyoden and Europa, few other people moved there. Hence the biocon/luddite ruling party.

>>46914362
fucking nobody gets bullied in college over not chasing enough tail

it's made up persecution

>>46911865
>Let me act like I know all about this even though I clearly have no fucking clue what left-libertarianism is

>>46914682
I've seen frats that actively try to recruit gays because they get dues-contributing members who they don't have to compete with for pussy

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>>46901143
>homogeneous slurry that is the rest of the Solar System

Think of all the ways people can used for covert intel routes. You just need a good meme, a cover activity, and some way of transmitting data that won't be easily detected.

>Be hypercorp drone, play sim games in off time
>get hit with subtle "take good luck charm everywhere" meme
>good luck charm has shielded data storage and super short range burst transmitter (hidden as tracker tag)
>pass by things, charm transmits data when near drop off/pickup point
>charm uploads data via game client when you play
>seemingly unconnected intel-gathering ops actually connected via random passerby

or
>muse gets hit with subtle virus
>does the same thing as above using your mesh inserts

>>46914912

Running an EP game. My Firewall cell's vector proxy comes up with a new covert data-transmission with every OP. Previous examples include:

1) gold farmer AI's trading each other gold in coded amounts through an MMO
2) conspiracy theory forums where every word is translated into a meme-riddled rant about nazi jew space lizards
3) pre-teen IM rp

>>46914989
>3) pre-teen IM rp
Give examples

>>46915010
*wwalks into the thread**

Hello. Can someone please tell me how the firefights in this system go? How do they compare to other systems?

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>>46915380
Gunfights in Eclipse Phase center around shooting early, often and accurately with a high damage weapon. Almost everything is capable of automatic fire and anyone without armor is going to get shredded quickly unless they end fights as fast as possible. There are a wide variety of weapons to choose from, but like most systems with huge gear lists the optimal choices in each category tend to Eclipse (no pun intended) the other options.

Characters specialized for fighting will have high initiative, high Speed (a stat that lets you attack multiple times in a turn), a powerful weapon, as much armor as they can stack, and a high weapon skill (along with modifiers and bonuses to boost it so that missing is practically impossible).

There's also an element of 'system mastery' layered on top of this. For example you can use a complex action to fire two bursts with an automatic weapon, doing more damage than with full-auto fire (remember to use the +10 you get for either extra damage or better aim if you need it), using called shots to ignore armor, and spending Moxie (the game's narrative meta-currency) to go first, get crits, change a miss into a hit, or avoid huge incoming damage.

One notable design choice is that almost all modifiers to-hit are on the firer's side instead of the target's side. What this means is that things like taking cover really don't help you avoid damage all that much, since at the end of the day most penalties applied on a to-hit roll can easily be negated by stacking positive modifiers. It's incredibly rare that you'll successfully dodge gunfire (rolls to dodge projectile weapons are done at half the usual skill) even if you're doing everything possible to avoid getting hit.

My personal favorite weapon is the Shredder, because at short range (which is where most fights happen) it can output huge damage with great armor penetration, and there's a single line of text which mentions the shards it fires can be poisoned.

What is it like to be someone with wealth in the JR?

>>46915686
It's like being someone with wealth in the real world.

>>46915734
And what is that like?

>>46915380
>>46915539
If you're going into a firefight in most games, you done fucked up. When guns get involved, hab security gets involved. And that's a bust on your job.
Get creative with killing people - even if you don't jack the stack and wipe the back-up, that's a delay while they get resleeved. And if you do it right, the authorities think it was a simple system malfunction (and this is really nasty for Firewall, making sure there's enough collateral damage to confuse the issue).
Of course, if you're leaving corpses, you might be really fucking up. Violence is (typically) your last resort in this game, not because of ethics, but because of evidence trails.

>>46915765
>>46915380
Oh I should have mentioned that too: mass surveillance means literally anything you do will get the cops called on you almost instantly, making the game completely unplayable. I hope you weren't looking for a game where anything actually happened.

>>46915734
>It's like being someone with wealth in the real world
Its that but you're also in space, with access to advanced technology. Sure, the rest of the system's toys are even more absurd, but you could own a spaceship if you wanted.

>>46915834

>I hope you weren't looking for a game where anything actually happened.

I wish this meme would die. I'd post the rules for subverting surveillance but I seem to have lost that cap.

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>>46915874
>hurr you can't solve your problems with shooting because everyone can just resleeve

Then why does everyone still carry guns?

Checkmate, transhumanists ;^)

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How extensive an exoplanetary estate could an oligarch construct, if feasible at all?

>>46915992
pretty extensive.
All he needs is power, some CMs, and a labor force.
>buy rights to habitable exoplanet
>ship in a set of CMs, a power plant, plenty of indentures, construction/mining equipment, fuckton of blueprints for everything he needs
>maybe some other supplies to make the initial setup more comfortable
>in a couple of years, get an estate that covers a couple square kilometers
>assume set-up AF 5
>by now the size of belguim
>fancy buildings and gardens up top, indentures living below ground
>maybe even have a nice colony going

What I didn't get at first was why apparently islam, which is probably the only religion which has even more batshit fundamentalists than christianity, was able to just integrate into transhuman life no problem, unlike christianity.

Then it struck me. They were probably too poor for the body of their believers to make it off earth during the fall even as infugees.

>>46916235
All the major religions experienced a filter effect where the majority of their population that didn't accept resleeving and egocasting was killed in the Fall.

Honestly the worst offender is the way the devs treat Buddhism as being compatible with transhumanism. Bodily immortality is diametrically opposed to the central tenets of every sect, as is cramming your physical form full of augmentations.

>>46915539
>>46915765
>>46915834
So, if what you say is true, this specific system doesn't really cater 'gun-ho' approach to a problem? My players just can't murder everyone and leave with something they need.

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>>46916235
that or too devout. So only the the wealthy muslims survived, and they already seem to be heading towards a schism.

>>46916298

No, murderhoboism is discouraged by the setting. Blind violence is a hammer, not a scalpel, and for a game of "transhuman conspiracy and horror" you want your scalpels as often as possible.

If you're going to kill someone, that should be a carefully considered option or otherwise involve some specific challenge or problem.

>>46916298
well with enough killer beta forks sleeved in reapers and mechs anything is possible, for a little while at least. However, this stops being a firefight and becomes a military engagement.

>>46916365
Ok thanks. While I myself like the premise, my players will never agree to something like this. They mostly play for combat, so yeah, imagine this kind of party of psychos in Eclipse.

>>46916389
Erasure Squad. Officio Assassinorum in EP.

>>46916389

I mean, they won't be hurting for people to shoot at them, for sure. But they aren't going to accomplish much besides shooting people, because shooting people is a temporary solution, it is is a solution at all.

This of course, is the real moral of the story, that truly their desire for violence has no reward but more violence. Just like a real sci-fi story.

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>>46916094
>In a marriage of Metropolis and Heart of Darkness, the players are sent to retrieve a mad executive from the deranged utopia he's built on his personal paradise planet, which he now rules as a god.

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>>46916451

SOLD

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>>46916389
Ignore those guys. The consequences of getting into gunfights are entirely up to you as the GM. I recommend tossing the Panopticon book entirely, since spending the whole game trying to find a way around a thousand sensors doesn't seem like your idea of fun.

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>>46916481

>>46916481
>>46916493

I wouldn't say to "toss" panopticon, but to understand the limitations. Panopticon even includes the descriptions of different levels of surveillance societies and what they're like, and most descriptions of the setting include descriptions of places where surveillance is weak. I mean, if Surveillance/Sousveillance is truly magically all-seeing you can't get away with shit, then who the fuck are all these local gangs and mobs of criminals? How do they exist?

>>46916525
>perceives radar through ultraviolet
They meant radio waves, right? Or since it's the active imager, did they mean it performs radar scans? Probably not since ultraviolet is out of place in that case.

>>46916725
The passive model is basically enhanced vision, the active model has a built in T-ray emitter and radar system

>>46915686
Similar to elsewhere, but less morph swapping.

>>46916389
>mostly play for combat
Get new players.

Rate the factions using their average prostitute quality as a metric.

>>46918920
Jovians 3/10

That's about it

>>46918973
I'd add PC as 2/10 since most of them are resleeved randos, scum is 0/10 since free love (but there might be gods of sex there), Titan 5/10 there's go to be some great sex micro corps. Venus probably has the best ones because it's still capitalist and is all about glitz and glamor, I'm going to call them 8/10

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>>46918920
Exhumans are a definite 10/10.

>>46910330
We should make some good OC for the Uniate Churches.

>>46918731
Not possible. If I want to have a game in this life-time.

>>46918973
>>46919179
The easier it is to get casual/kinky sex, the lower the value of prostitution services. Therefore, there should be a rather high demand in the JR. I'd expect to find the best (mostly) unaugmented prostitutes there. The next most repressed is probably LLA, followed by the PC/Tharsis, then Venus. Venus won't be much different, though. They should all have indentures working as prostitutes, while the really good ones might stay on as they start to make lots of money from it. Remember that self-improvement has to be incentivised, even if they're an indenture. You'll find both pleasure pods and sylphs, while the latter is used for the upper-class escorts, who may act as hetaira/geisha. Now we get to the AA. They should be the least repressed, so there should be a much smaller market for prostitution than anywhere else. Of all of them, Extropia should have the largest market, given that they are capitalists. Selling sex for favors instead of money or commodities isn't prostitution. It's called being a slut.

So, who are the niggers of the setting?

>>46916289
That's funny, because there were tons of google results for buddhist transhumanism. Here's one.
http://www.transfigurist.org/2015/12/michael-latorra-explains-buddhist.html

>>46922822
>one heretic thinks his blog post matters more than centuries of established doctrine
Nice try Martin Luther

>>46922799
Rusters

Fun Fact: Something called Neo-Buddhism isn't the exact same thing as something just called Buddhism

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>>46923748
Ayep

>>46923748
Why is it even "neo"? The only thing that traditional Buddhism might have a problem with is reinstantiation.

>>46923936
Forgot forking. They might have a problem with that, at least with having no intention of merging.

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>>46923959
on the other hand, forking, meditating with a bunch of yourself to break down your sense of self, then merging could be a pretty interesting form of meditation

>>46923936
>>46923959
Even Theravada?

>>46928529
>Indoor sailboat
>In a big tan can
>Not even a torus, let alone a cylinder
>Not keeping your sailing yacht on Titan

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>>46916094
what would be the upper limit for exoplanetary development be? Could you do make a space elevator or any other megastructures?

>>46929394

Assuming you have the time, resources and conditions, sure, though I believe Transhumans are limited to at most stuff like elevators and cole bubbles in terms of structures. They've yet to figure out a way to assemble a Dyson Sphere or Ring World - at least cost-effectively.

>>46929394
Eventually, but without a whole society to use a megastructure you're probably way better off with resusable launch vehicles.

>>46929394
>Cheekstock
>In a space suit with bubble helmet

>>46929394
>anti-ballistic helmet
>shot traps for days
>visors for days
>electro-optics suite
FFFF

>>46929621
What shot traps? Also, electronic optics may be a good idea if you're wearing helmet

>>46929479
I own the planet, the address has remained pretty stable, and I already have a budding society of about two million indentures I brought with me. I plan to be in this venture for a while, so it seems like the way to go.

>>46929681
The three bays above the visor, also yeah, electronic optics, ergo no need for all these visor things. Hell, these days we have micro cameras that can be embedded right into materials, never mind the post-singularity. Low balling, man.

>>46929621
>>46929520
nobody said it was a good product

>>46929738
>The three bays above the visor
Not shot traps, thanks how the angles are arranged.
>electronic optics, ergo no need for all these visor things
Not even sure what you mean
>these days we have micro cameras that can be embedded right into materials
That would be electronic optics with extremely shitty resolution

>>46928614
>Titan
>not Ascension
plebs gonna pleb

>>46930341
>Having sailing yachts on just one world
>Just poor people things

>>46930431
>being rich on Titan
Nice try, anarkiddo.

>>46930506
>What's an off-world bank account
Poor confirmed

>>46930601
>Trying to hide things from FI

Bud, brace your fucking anus.

>>46930601
>banking in a polity where they just need a vote to take all of your assets
Retard detected.

>>46930760
>Inner system credits are 100% useless to the Commonwealth and you would have to spend all of them there

>>46930999
How was that implied?

>>46926844
How much for one without the CS decals?

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do winged vehicles still get much use, or are they outdated?

>>46931038
A) Titan is not 100% economically isolated from the inner system
B) The money from your off-world bank account is in fact good elsewhere
C) Pretend you're the Commonwealth. Some rich guy who doesn't live in the commonwealth wants to pay you an exorbitant fee to keep his boat there and sail it from time to time. You would be stupid to say no.
D) Bribes exist

>>46931227
>Titan is not 100% economically isolated from the inner system
Pretty close. They trade mostly for heavy elements and not a whole lot else.
>The money from your off-world bank account is in fact good elsewhere
Certainly, but that doesn't change the fact that it's in the hands of Stalinists.
>Pretend you're the Commonwealth. Some rich guy who doesn't live in the commonwealth wants to pay you an exorbitant fee to keep his boat there and sail it from time to time. You would be stupid to say no.
If you're Commonwealth, you don't really want many capitalists around anyway. It's just bound to cause trouble as cultures clash, and you have enough of that with infugees.
>bribes exist
Titan has the most transparent government in the setting. Bribes are really tough to pull off.

>>46931404
>Pretty close. They trade mostly for heavy elements
Oh yeah. Who needs those?
>Certainly, but that doesn't change the fact that it's in the hands of Stalinists.
First, no.
Second, they're not retarded.
>If you're Commonwealth, you don't really want many capitalists around anyway
How dare those filthy capitalists throw money at you one the condition that they not interfere in your affairs
>Titan has the most transparent government in the setting. Bribes are really tough to pull off.
And yet, they still exist

>>46931404
>technosocialism = Stalinism
Yeah, and eliminating genetic illness through germline modification = gassing the Jews.

How do you justify your existence?

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>stalinists and hypershills arguing
>all I hear is prey animals shrieking and hooting at one another

This is now an Exhuman thread

>>46931794
>exhuman
>Ow I'm so edgy I'm literally bleeding to death from all this edge
Fuck off, cunt. You can have all the pointy teeth and intestinal mods in the world and I'll still shove hot plasma up your asshole.

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>>46931404
>Certainly, but that doesn't change the fact that it's in the hands of Stalinists.
How do you figure? Putting your assets in an offworld bank or some other defended, far away location that doesn't give a shit about the decisions of the plurality ought to have the money pretty far out of their hands.

>>46932067
Don't bother. It's a hypercorp delta fork shill. It can't reason beyond anything in the source books, and even for source material it only pays attention to material that can be used to recommend reinvesting in consortium corps.

>>46931541
https://warosu.org/tg/thread/35924998#p35955105

>>46931455
>Oh yeah. Who needs those?
You need a lot less than you'd think, given that they can make most things out of carbon nanoshits and magic metamaterials.
>First, no.
>Second, they're not retarded.
Read the archive link above.
>How dare those filthy capitalists throw money at you one the condition that they not interfere in your affairs
Nice strawman.
>And yet, they still exist
It's hard to say that something doesn't exist when the validity of any statement is entirely up to the GM.

>>46932067
You have nothing to use while you're on Titan. Also, things are getting confused here. "Offworld bank" refers to the hypothetical Titanian bank.

>>46931866
>I-I'm not scared of you ;_;

Try as hard as you like to disguise it, but just remember that I can literally smell fear ;^)

>>46932178

Can't smell fear through my sealed battlesuit with weapons mounted.

Figured out how to genetically engineer your way around fire yet?

>>46932178
>10AF
>Having a sense of smell
Get with the program, brosef, 99.9% of all possible ecological niches in the universe are either "sun" or about a thousand variations on "airless rock". Call yourself an exhuman when you can't even do basic math? Get yourself a vacuum-rated synth, bitch, and join the Master Race.

>>46932198
Yup

Figure out how to battlesuit your way around being messily dissolved in an enormous disassembler stomach?

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>>46932232
>le synth master race XD

>>46932164
>Read the archive link above.
>Because anything the USSR ever did constitutes Stalinism
>Being a Freshman history major

>Nice strawman.
Totally valid mechanism by which an inner system hyperelite might have a sailing yacht on Titan in a discussion about whether such people can have sailing yachts on Titan are strawman arguments.

>>46932164
>"Offworld bank" refers to the hypothetical Titanian bank.
Is this even a joke any longer?

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>>46932164
>"Offworld bank" refers to the hypothetical Titanian bank.
where the hell was that ever stated?

>>46932281
Can we just agree that Titan is a shitty place to have a yacht in the first place? You can't even really fuck around on the deck unless you're in a shitty exsurgent bird morph.

>>46932342
I think we lost track of the point of the conversation a long time ago.

>>46932360
>Can we just agree that Titan is a shitty place to have a yacht in the first place?
No. It has actual wind and actual lakes, unlike every other location in the solar system.

>You can't even really fuck around on the deck unless you're in a shitty exsurgent bird morph.
Synths exist, as do vacsuits and enclosed decks.

>>46932360

But they do have both sailboats AND a coast guard.

>>46932248

Yeah, pretty sure "eating alive with disassemblers" is a really bad plan, which involves lots of applications of fire, plasma, EMPs and even guardian nanos. Lets not even get into the kind of shit you can cram into the suit itself (Offensive or Reactive armor)

>>46932428
>But they do have both sailboats AND a coast guard.
Wat.

>>46932360
>I think we lost track of the point of the conversation a long time ago.
I think you lost track of the point of this argument the moment it became clear that you were wrong.

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>>46932428
>Lets not even get into the kind of shit you can cram into the suit itself

Actually anon, I'd love to get into cramming things into your suit

>>46932499

Always install Lotus Coating and Immunogenic System, kids

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>>46931794
>fleshy bits
>mechanical shit
Your advancement is weak. Computronium metabiology and hyperspacial etching stronk.

>>46932601
>computronium

That's a fancy way to say 'spreading your legs for exsurgent dick'

>>46932686
yeah, but when you get fast enough and dispersed enough you can overwrite and amputate as need be. You should meet the Delphi channel. I cut it off my ego and keep it contained on one of my side projects, it says it tuned in to the TITANs across the galaxy, and also moscow.

All you people arguing about offshore accounts and Titan
1) there are banks that let you convert kroner to credits near the gate so ou could use gate crashing as a money laundering operation to get your kroner out of the commonwealth, but
2) Being part of the North Atlantic Bloc(?) or whatever makes you effectively tax exempt anyway so all the Titanian old money is already pretty safe

>>46933029
>let you convert kroner to credits
Even though the reverse is all that is necessary for your yacht

>>46933062

The Kartelyei can handle both ends of that transaction for you. Just call up your cousin Vitaliy on Extropia, he'll make all the arrangements. 100% legal, he guarantees.

>>46933062
Titan yacht would be sick as fuck. I feel like kroner is easier to trace though since a lot of it's so central controlled. Not sure that credits would be that much better for being a 1% asshole though

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>buying a boat with money
>not designing and building your own vessel using the Titanian Commonwealth's vast technology base and abundant natural resources
>Not hiring rough and tumble Fall orphans off the street as your crew, saving them from life on welfare or as criminals and at the same time ensuring their absolute loyalty to you

Disappointed to be quite honest, friends and mates

>>46915539

Shredders are fine for "knife" fighting ranges, if you don't bother with cover, and the extra armor it provides.

Ultimates take full cover, using Direct Action A30 Smg's in each appendage, firing indirect homing RAP rounds on full auto, with underslung seeker launchers for extreme range engagements.

>>46933286
>not designing and building your own vessel using the Titanian Commonwealth's vast technology base and abundant natural resources
Pretty sure that's a variety of buying

>>46915834

This is where a good Infosec teammate renders all surveillance in an area useless.

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>>46933097
Well, yes, totally legal on extropia.

>>46933441
>4 SMGs
God I'm so sick of this meme. At least you didn't say loaded with hollowpoints.

>Ultimates take full cover
Taking cover isn't actually very useful in Eclipse Phase, since it modifies the attacker's roll to hit instead of the defender's roll to dodge. It's easy to stack positive modifiers and cancel out penalties, meanwhile the target is still stuck rolling half fray with no bonuses.

>>46933445
Hydrocarbons are free anon

>>46933596
>Hydrocarbons are free anon
Making a boat with them isn't, and neither are slip fees

>>46933286
>Business on Titan
>Not welfare

admit that we've won capitalist scum! Our microcorps have taken all your market forces and given them to the people!

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>>46933691
>hydrocarbons ain't free

>>46933596

>cover not useful

Reminder your opposition is also stacking bonuses, and you are rolling at half fray as well.

>>46933596

Page 203 Shooting Through penalty.

You want to force your opposition to resort to this, do to a lack of sight, and/or indirect fire capability..

>>46934160
I just looked in the book and there aren't any modifiers possible for the defender's half-fray roll in ranged combat at all. All the bonuses and penalties are on the attacker's side.

I can sort of understand why they'd do this for simplicity's sake, since it means you don't have to remember what's a penalty to the shooter or a bonus to the defender and vice versa. But at the end of the day it means that things like cover don't really help the defender all that much.

Major cover is -30 to the attacker's roll, which can be negated with a smartlink, aiming and using the bonus from burst fire for better accuracy. Meanwhile, the defender is still stuck with a fray skill of 30 or 40, and not only do they have to roll below that, they also have to hope that the guy shooting rolls even lower. Ultimately the defender just doesn't have the same opportunity to stack favorable modifiers as the attacker, which really shifts the balance in favor of offense. It's the reason why shooting first and fast is so crucial.

If I had to change it I'd give things like cover as bonuses to the defender instead of penalties to the attacker, maybe even added after their fray score is divided by 2 instead of before. Dodging bullets should be tough, but hiding behind things should at least work a little better.

>>46934703
>Major cover is -30 to the attacker's roll, which can be negated with a smartlink, aiming and using the bonus from burst fire for better accuracy.

Meanwhile the attacker doesn't get the +30 bonus he would have had otherwise. Sounds good to me.

>>46934752

That also means he's not using the bonus damage from BF, which is a great factor.

>>46934752
>>46934703

This is the ideal defensive position.

To be hidden (-60 to attacker), prone (-10 to attacker), and behind major cover (-30 to attacker. 2x Cover's armor as bonus armor if they are forced to shoot through it).

Cover is ideal for not just giving penalties and extra armor, but also to roll infiltration checks to hide your ass. And if being completely obscured by the cover, and with chameleon/invisibility cloak, you are going to be hard to find.

Ultimately, Eclipse phase engagements would begin either by whether your drone, or Infosec hacker can spot the opposition first.

Prepare your positions, hide, and then fire at the enemy at extreme ranges with indirect fire. This makes Seeker weapons really nice, as they negate the indirect fire penalty if you can spot your enemies.

The deadliest force multiplier in your arsenal is a well hidden drone spotting for your seekers.

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>>46934987
>fighting at extreme ranges
>fighting at any range beyond arms reach

>>46934987

Of course, as the old adage goes, "no plan survives contact with the enemy".

You can never guarantee you will have optimal conditions every time. Since your goal is rarely just to make people dead, it's hard to certify optimal environment, optimal equipment, optimal timing or optimal targets.

This is part of why EP is a "modifiers game" and I think pretty key to playing the game in general not just with combat. The stakes are high, and you don't get to pick every card in the hand you're dealt. So you have to make the best with what you got for the situation.

>>46935145

In other words, don't put all your eggs in one basket. Sure, if you pump the skill points, take the traits and have the gear, you can camp outside the TQZ and snipe guys through tacnet over the horizon with Seekers or Railgun Snipers no problem - but if that's the only thing you can do, you're gonna be hurting when some Triad thugs try to roll you in a dark alley with knives and machine pistols.

>>46935137

>"I-is that guy running at us with swords?"
>several full auto shots later
>"It was a guy running at us with swords"

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>>46935269
>he uses guns
>his sword doesn't yearn to bathe in the blood of his enemies
>he isn't fuckin' invincible

>>46935335

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRGmNl94XLE

>Mental Speed: With this nanoware system, nanobots alter the character’s neural architecture and augment the functioning of their neurons. The character can deliberately speed up their mind to think and also receive and process sensory information far faster than ordinary humans. Time seems to subjectively slow down for the character, allowing them to carefully plan their next action, even if they only have a split second to do so. With this system active, the character can discern things occurring too fast for a normal human to perceive, such as the individual frames of an old analog film or understanding sounds that were accelerated to many times their normal speed. The character can also read 10 times faster than normal and can track the paths of bullets and similar fast-moving objects with a successful Perception Test.
>can track the paths of bullets and similar fast-moving objects with a successful Perception Test.
>can track the paths of bullets

Shouldn't something like that give a bonus to Fray? Obviously you aren't always going to be able to move out of the way all the time, since your body isn't going as fast as your senses, but it should at least give you an advantage.

Hell, that could be one way to make beam weapons a little more viable. Bullets have travel time, whereas beam weapons have already hit you by the time you see them firing.

>>46935709
Would that work against a guy with God Mode on?

>>46935749
>can see bullets
This sounds ridiculous.

>>46939850
spotters do it

>>46940067
Tracers and where they hit, not the flight path.

>>46940325
>Snipers using tracers
No.
>not the flight path
Yes actually, until it gets too far away. Happens too fast to track as it happens, but if the back has something behind it it the pressure wave visibly distorts the air.

How about this

An augmentation to let the human eye see above 30 frames per second

>>46940678
Get a better monitor.

>>46940738
Get better eyes ;^)

>>46940773
I can tell the difference between 60 and 120 fps in games, so I don't think I need to.

Would it be bad form to include a subplot about racial extremist terrorists in a Titanian Commonwealth game?

>>46940992
Well, sort of. Race and ethnicity are optional in EP, and most modern groups will accept anyone that looks right and talks the right language(s) and walks the walk well enough. It doesn't matter if you were born in Alabama and grew up to be a massive weaboo, if you look Japanese, speak Japanese, act Japanese, you too can join the Japanese clade.
That fact alone will rob most ethnic extremists of punch and power, and warp their dogma a shit-ton. They'll either be saying, "Everyone must join our clade by force if necessary" or "Fake [Ethnic] people get out, REEEEEEEEE". It won't look like modern racial extremism at all either way.

>tl;dr: Yes, but not for the reason you think.

>>46940992
>racial
Did you mean radical?

Between social progress in that area, resleeving, genemods, anti-uplift sentiment, and biochauvinism, racism isn't much of a thing any longer.

Certain ethnic groups do remain fairly insular, but with muses and translation software it's pretty difficult to be significantly disadvantaged by that.

>>46941133
>>46941211
That makes sense. Thank you.

Serves me right for trying to shove Blue Eyes into the game.

>>46941133
>Fake [ethnic people] get out. REEE
t. Caveman

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>>46941977
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>>46941133
>"Fake [Ethnic] people get out, REEEEEEEEE"

The search for true authenticity is shared by neo-racists and hipsters alike in Eclipse Phase!

>>46942995
What the fuck is up with that art style?

>>46943573
Anime enthusiasts created custom morphs for themselves. It wasn't pretty.

>>46943713
There's loli morph variants, kemonomimi morph variants, tentacle monster morph variants, and unnatural hair and eye colors all over the place. EP is already anime.

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>>46944325

As is good and just

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>>46942995

>>46929715
How many of those identures are divergent forks of indentures you bought?
(seriously, just buying a few thousand indentures then putting their forks through psychosurgery and simspace training can get you a pretty big population)

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>>46944562
a good number of 'em actually, and I'm putting the better part of the population in biomorphs cause I can. I want pretty, ennobled population for my world, I won't have them clanking about in slums when I can afford to make a utopia in mine own image. I will be a world king, surpassing all in the righteous splendor of my realm. My old peers built their unending fortunes from fractions of worlds and systems, My great wealth is a system that is mine.

>>46944562
It's usually just as cheap to buy n indentures than to buy n-m indentures and perform psychosurgery m times to make n unique individuals.

>>46945074

Definitely putting forward "oligarch fortress" for the next edition.

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>>46933286
>hiring rough and tumble Fall orphans off the street as your crew, saving them from life on welfare or as criminals and at the same time ensuring their absolute loyalty to you
>when you could hire actual soldiers instead
???

>>46945156
Seconded

>>46945156
>>46945693
How about Build-A-Hab Workshop Edition?

>>46945864

Split the difference at "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous"?

>>46945886
You want talk about setting up habs/colonies or talk about fetishes?

>>46945930

Aren't they basically the same?

>>46945942
Are you an errant fork of MeatHabBro?

>>46946008
No, he's an AGI with an classical engineering kink

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>>46934703

In addition to
>>46934752
and
>>46934768
you also get a ton of armor for being in cover. Like double the armor value of the object or something. Cover is super necessary.

>>46935749
Probably, but mental speed doesn't need to compete with Reflex Boosters mechanically. Both together should probably let you use full fray on gunfire.

>>46940992
Wouldn't racial extremists in EP basically be pushing certain morph gene lines if they were on Titan? Or did you mean something more culturalist?

>>46939850
>>46935749

Predictive Boost does this, and it's a +10 Modifier to the Fray test, not skill. Pretty significant vs. Ranged attacks.