CYOA General

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Happy Peasants
Forbidden Love
Princess of Learning
Fae Kingdom
Magic Upgrade
Little Girl/Wise Matron (12)
Metropolis

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>>46876052
Oh hey, I remember this.
It's really fucking bad.
There's zero emotion in it, whereas the new Alice has far too much.

To not be a complete wanker, anyone working on anything that isn't just more fetishbait or another waifu cyoa?
>tfw don't know how to make my fetishes into a cyoa
Damn...

>>46876302
>whereas the new Alice has far too much.
It helps spread the legend that whoever manages to finish the Alice challenge properly in one sitting will be awarded a real life waifu.

>>46876432
That's like telling people that whoever manages to survive swandiving into an active volcano will be made immortal.

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>>46876432
no one has done it since it was first posted.
It's become nothing but bloat. Someone probably you keeping posting because >lol omg I posted it again, hehe, play it

Anyway, I really really wish this one had more emotion to it. It could've been great.
I'd have liked a tsundere option where you break her in with your dick, of course, but eh. Can't have it all.

>>46876530
>no one has done it since it was first posted
Two people did that I remember. One finished it and for all we know didn't get his real life waifu (what a rip off), took him like 20 posts over two threads or some crazy shit like that, and the other got halfway into it before breaking.

>>46876543
>One finished it and for all we know didn't get his real life waifu (what a rip off), took him like 20 posts over two threads or some crazy shit like that
I remember that. His Alice was a lamia who lied to him about it over an anonymous dating website. The writefaggotry was above average.

>>46876530
And since I talked about it, I should probably at least do it.
I still think getting a submissive girlfriend is boring - it's the path to making her submissive that's fun.
So instead of Abandoned being "I will do anything because you're my male rolemodel", it'd instead be an out of control girl that needs a good hard dicking to calm down. That's all she wants, to have someone tell her no.

>Anxious
Of the available options, it's the only one that's even mildly appealing ("her confidence is tied to your praise")
No interest in abusing her or having her wear a fucking collar. She's not a dog.
I don't understand the "D/s sessions".
>Afterplay,
I guess
The punishments are all fucked up.
Same goes for corrections.
>Maid
What did you even try to say with Wake-up call? That she wakes up your before you?
Should've just said that.

plus, having the narrator wank while you're doing the cyoa isn't appealing in the slightest

>>46876530
I want to take that cyoa and edit it: replace all the pics of cute girls with boys and replace all the female pronouns with male ones.

Is that rude?

>>46875253
Are there any CYOAs where the choices aren't all benefit benefit benefit?

Is there a CYOA where you start off as a normal human, and you have 40 (or so) Disadvantage Points that you are forced to spend on making yourself shittier than average?

I'm tired of all this power fantasy. I want some "you are shit" fantasy!

>>46876801
Oh boy. This is gonna be a fun thread.

>>46876801
Those CYOA are terrible, and I continue to find them as such. Maybe if you benefit from taking these disadvantages..

>>46876734
It is pretty rude to ruin a cyoa because it doesn't appeal to your gay fetish, yes.

>>46876801
>I'm tired of all this power fantasy. I want some "you are shit" fantasy!

Anon, I'm already shit. What you're proposing is the kind of "escapism" I can find by looking in a mirror.

>>46876844
A good CYOA would allow you the introspection that just might lead to you improving your lot in life. The best example is the earliest basement ones, which were ultimately about coming to understand what are the things that truly matter to you and which parts of your life you'd be willing to give up.

>>46876869
No. A good cyoa lets me be a dragon and provides me with enough dragon-related fapping material to last a week in which I grow progressively more ashamed of my rampant dragon obsession.

>>46876869

Not every shitty thing about a person is something that can be helped. A big one for me personally is how I've got issues with my memory, and a very strong history of Alzheimer's in my family.

Some changes to my lifestyle might help with that slightly, but the fact remains I'm probably going to forget who I am in a few decades, if I live that long.

>>46876823
? I asked for a CYOA in the CYOA thread, isn't that what the thread is for?

>>46876832
But benefits are lame wish fulfilment shit.
I want disadvantages! It'll be more fun if you have to choose which thing(s) you have to sacrifice (for no benefit), and you have to sacrifice 40 points worth of things!

>>46876844
Ok.
Then we take You as the base.
And we add 40 points of disadvantages on top of that.
That way you can partake in the fantasy too!

>>46876869
Oh. well the disadvantages CYOA would do that.

>>46876832
>Those CYOA are terrible, and I continue to find them as such.
Why?
If you're a roleplayer, you fucking love taking disadvantages.
If you're a minmaxer, then you can minmax the disadvantages to leave you in the "least worst" position.
Are you some kind of 3rd option? If so what's it like? I wanna see if I can play with your style, whatever it is.

>>46876907
Yeah, but introspection is the kind of thing that might ultimately lead you to realizing what things about life you truly appreciate, enjoy or cherish, which could allow you to make more of them than by wasting whatever time you do have moping about and watching porn.

>>46876801
You have to make one yourself.

>>46876934
>If you're a minmaxer, then you can minmax the disadvantages to leave you in the "least worst" position.
Can you name one where the least bad position isn't the invocation of Rule 0?

>>46876973
Huh that'll be a tricky one.
Ok, I'll get to work!

>>46876994
Oh I forgot about that.

Yeah I suppose playing the DM is always the most efficient way to get max power.

I feel a bit sad now.

>>46877012
I meant the Rule 0 of CYOAs, i.e. "you can always choose not to play" or something to that effect.

>>46877031
Ok smartass. But optimising -within constraints- is what the minmaxers are about.
Yes I know a minmaxer can always just -say- they'll only play a game where they're a lv.9999 master of instantly win everything. And I'm sure they'd enjoy that a lot.
But it's more fun to win in a framework where winning is difficult! ... isn't it?
Maybe you're right.

Fuck it I want this so I'm gonna make it anyway. I wanna play a CYOA where you are more shit than an average human and try to optimise so you are the least shit. Even if it's irrational of me to want this.

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What I liked most about this CYOA was that the girls were actually villianous. Not even in the 'Oh no, I took this 2$ candybar tehe I'm such a bad girl '-kind of way. Josie got busted for CP, for fuck's sake. That was refreshing.

What I would have liked to see is Steph talking about how she did in fact have a bf previously but they broke up due to her severe alcholism. This is seems like a more reasonable explanation for why she, a 25 year old woman, is not in a relationship or has family to rely on. Because her alcoholism is quite serious.

My greater issue with this CYOA are the ages of Shelly and mystery box. insofar as I can tell this CYOA is about roommates falling in love with the self-insert. Both of these girls, three if you count Daisy, are both extremely young and thus inherently impressionable but also seriously mentally damaged. Nymphomania isn't just being really horny, it's typically a symptom of some other mental disorder. A disorder that the girl is not treating.

>>46876734
You could at least make your own version heavily inspired by the original so you aren't a total asshole.

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>>46877117
cont.

The fact is, with Shelly and mystery box what is implied (sex) is beyond just criminal it's incredibly morally despicable. These girls, like I said earlier, are extremely vulnerable to predatory behavior like is being implicitly encouraged in this CYOA. I don't think we should be encouraging the abuse of underage and mentally ill girls like this. Why would any government agency responsible for child-welfare allow this?

>>46877117
>read your post
>look at the CYOA
>the first girl directly contradicts you right from the start
ok, cyoa and opinion discarded

>>46877110
Go ahead, it's your time and energy. I'll just probably ignore it like the other "you can't not be shit" CYOAs.

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Ok but what if....

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>>46877260
So this is like a proof of concept

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>>46877271
I like this. I extra like this because I made the Black Bay and this has great synergy with the whole inter-worlds piratery thing I had going on there.

>>46877117
>>46877156
I fucking hate lolishit CYOAs and you have made a case against them that makes me want to actually defend them, congrats.

>What I liked most about this CYOA was that the girls were actually villianous.

Alcoholics aren't evil.

>My greater issue with this CYOA are the ages of Shelly and mystery box. insofar as I can tell this CYOA is about roommates falling in love with the self-insert. Both of these girls, three if you count Daisy, are both extremely young and thus inherently impressionable but also seriously mentally damaged. Nymphomania isn't just being really horny, it's typically a symptom of some other mental disorder. A disorder that the girl is not treating.

>The fact is, with Shelly and mystery box what is implied (sex) is beyond just criminal it's incredibly morally despicable. These girls, like I said earlier, are extremely vulnerable to predatory behavior like is being implicitly encouraged in this CYOA. I don't think we should be encouraging the abuse of underage and mentally ill girls like this.

There are CYOAs where the player is a dark god that fucking obliterates innocent peoples' immortal souls.

There are CYOAs where the goal is to find the most efficient way to trap random passerbys in your domain and drive them insane before torturing them to death, in order to sustain yourself.

Almost every single CYOA ever made has had evil options. How is this any worse? Should we stop making ones where you make cool monsters too? What about conflict itself?

>Why would any government agency responsible for child-welfare allow this?

Bad writing.

>>46877437
Going to adapt the black bay to v3?

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>>46877447
But anon! A work or body of works contributes to the thoughtscape of a cultural and can contribute to cultural expectations and unconscious rape of innocent women everywhere!
Women's studies is a real science!

>>46877117
Can someone explain to me why this cyoa and the age of those girls does not make you uncomfortable?

Context; I'm a fag so theoretically I should like the male version of this. That's why I tried to gather some pics of cute boys and they disgusted me so freaking much. It felt really wrong to make a cyoa out of that. So I don't get it. I don't get why young girls are so popular here. Is it actually a fetish thing?

Not trolling. Just trying to better my understanding of lolis in waifu culture here on /cyoag/ Sorry if it sounds like I'm targetting this cyoa specifically.

>>46877487
I want to but I don't think Thrallherd is finished with his updates so I have no idea how much work it would be.

I want to make some more fanworlds in fact but I just keep waiting for those damn updates which kinda sucks.

Where do you guys get pics for waifus? I need some pics and have no idea where to look.

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>>46877535
It's hard to tell what's legit and what isn't these days.

>>46877536
>Is it actually a fetish thing?

Dude...

>>46877604
>Where do you guys get pics for waifus?
The illustrious and ever-fleeting waifu mines.

>>46877447
>Alcoholics aren't evil.

You're right. Period.


>There are CYOAs where the player is a dark god that fucking obliterates innocent peoples' immortal souls.

>There are CYOAs where the goal is to find the most efficient way to trap random passerbys in your domain and drive them insane before torturing them to death, in order to sustain yourself.

>Almost every single CYOA ever made has had evil options.

And? Why can't I criticize this one? What makes it above criticism?

>How is this any worse?
Why does it need to be worse for me to be able to criticize it?

>Should we stop making ones where you make cool monsters too?
I don't understand what you're trying to say here. What does this have to do with me disliking the fact that I take issue with having sex with underage girls?

>What about conflict itself?

What about it?

>>46877536
It's an anime thing.
There's a bunch of Japanese cultural shit behind it but the relevant part to a westerner is the understanding that 2D != 3D, the viewer is assumed to be able to distinguish reality from fiction.

>>46877260
So this is how I imagined it to be played.
Tell me if it's intuitive/balanced.

So you start with a conduit build. I'll do a simple one. Full Prison meistery. That's 20 points.

Then I think of a product. Something believable that I'd think other people'd want to buy. I'll use the ichor, I don't know how combining it with an earth resource would do it any good so I'll sell it straight.

One normal station at my ichor harvesting plant (-2)
I imagine ichor would be a low cost product for a niche market so I look there for options.
Now I choose what I could realistically justify as being my products strengths and weaknesses. Imports I can't justify. I'm a prison meister, neither can I justify low production costs, it's described as hard to harvest. So go for:
Hipster Cred (10)
Celebrity endorsements (20)
Economical benefits (30)
No negotiation power (25)
Immorality symbol (15)

I only need to harvest, probably some pipeline or farm (-7)
This means the complexity of my product is 1, my revenue 15 and my profit 8.
I'll take the classic Rorch housing (5)
And since I didn't take sands of time life-force crystals for myself (0)
It's not much. Maybe someone with a better product can get a lot more.

how do you guys determine the size of your cyoas?

>>46877621
Now comes the point that we have to decide wether we want to continue to argue with this guy over weather CYOA's should be allowed to let you do evil shit or if we're just going to write him of as a troll.
>I don't understand what you're trying to say here.
Yep, definite troll.

>>46877708
I just don't get it. It seems to me that in your minds, I'm not allowed to criticize this particular CYOA before I go back and do the same for the other ones. If I chose to praise this one for the inclusion of underaged sexual content, would I have to go back and praise all the other ones for the same reason?

Why can't I criticize this particular CYOA for one thing it chose to include without veering off into another discussion entirely?

>>46875721
annie...

how is this even a choice?

>>46877730
It shows the fallibility of your argument because applying it consistently would destroy 70% of the CYOA's out there.
The use of examples is, like, the number one rhetorical technique and if you are sincere about your lack of understanding I invite you to lurk more until you become more familiar with the english language.

>>46877554
Idle hands are a bitch.
Even if you don't act on some ideas why don't you share here for some anonstorming.
Do we even know what happened to thrallherd?

>>46877758
Why can't I take issue with the inclusion of underaged sex? Why can't I isolate my criticism of this to this CYOA or others that contain this content. I don't need to expand my critiquing to fucking giant monsters because they have nothing to do with this conversation. Holy shit. You can criticize a CYOA for having one particular element and not care about the others. That's a thing people are allowed to do.

>The use of examples is, like, the number one rhetorical technique

You mean like examples of other CYOAs that include underaged sex?

>>46877730
Because the fact that something doesn't conform to your personal taste is not a valid criticism. You're taking exception to what is essentially a game of pretend because it allows you to do something that is against the law in your particular country.
What is the actual problem with it?

>>46877621
>And? Why can't I criticize this one? What makes it above criticism?

Well nothing really, but you heavily implied it shouldn't even be allowed to be made with

>I don't think we should be encouraging the abuse of underage and mentally ill girls like this.

A normal person, if he runs into a childfag flapping his gums on the internet who just won't shut the fuck up about how he's a poor oppressed sexual minority, who acts either so out of nowhere or so exceptional, even on a chan, that he has to respond, would have just mocked him, his points, and called him a fucking idiot who should kill himself. What you were proposing, instead of just saying that this shit is creepy and weird (which even I'll admit is a moot point regardless, lolishit is so thoroughly ingrained in this stuff now there's really nothing to do besides ignore it and wait for good shit you've never seen before to be reposted,) was the idea that there should be some kind of community guideline against it, and I really hope I don't have to explain why that's a dangerous fucking road to go down.

>Why does it need to be worse for me to be able to criticize it?

So you're admitting you wanna get rid of evil themed CYOA too.

>I don't understand what you're trying to say here. What does this have to do with me disliking the fact that I take issue with having sex with underage girls?

>me disliking the fact that I take issue with having sex with underage girls

Hoooooooly SHIT that's a Freudian slip if I've ever heard one.

>What about it?

Well, some people might say conflict shouldn't be a thing in settings either; after all, we've created a society that hates conflict and wants to get as far away from it as possible, so having problems might not be good encouragement for that.

And then that balloons and escalates until people go "fuck it," CYOA no longer have points because decision making is too stressful, and they become even more of a glorified excuse to read Anon's bad fantasy novel.

>>46877730
It's more like criticizing a CYOA on ethical grounds is fucking retarded as most have serious moral implications.

Criticizing something for structure or balance is fair enough as the thing you're talking about could be deficient in some way. Criticizing something because it's morally dodgy in a hive of moral dodginess is a total waste of your time and perhaps this just isn't the place for you.

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>>46876570
>The writefaggotry was above average.

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>>46877819
The actual problem with promoting sex with minors ? Because unlike summoning fucking giant monsters to rip apart kindergarteners, you can do it in real-life. There's nothing good about promoting the idea that taking advantage of fifteen year old girls is ok.

>So you're admitting you wanna get rid of evil themed CYOA too.

...? How does one follow from the other..?

>Well, some people might say conflict shouldn't be a thing in settings either; after all, we've created a society that hates conflict and wants to get as far away from it as possible, so having problems might not be good encouragement for that.

Conflict is a primary aspect of story-telling and life that isn't really possible to get rid of, unless you mean violent conflict only. Adults having sex with minors isn't.

>>46877874
Right, you can do it in real life, so portraying it in a a work of fiction carries the risk of making people do it.
Get the hell out of here and don't come back.

>>46877867
>There's nothing good about promoting the idea that taking advantage of fifteen year old girls is ok.
The age of consent in most European countries is 14 or 15, in Spain it's 13. Just because something is against the law in some places doesn't mean it should be cleansed from all media. The CYOA is not "promoting" having sex with the 15-year-old any more than it is "promoting" sex with any of the others.
You seem to have a weird hang-up about this one thing that makes absolutely no sense.

>>46877922
Meant for you, >>46877874, mister.

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>>46877951
He's not going to respond, I already told him to leave and never come back.
In the meantime let's play some CYOAs.

>>46877887
>so portraying it in a a work of fiction carries the risk of making people do it.

Consider the following:

Someone who doesn't believe rape is much of an issue in society chooses to take in new information by reading accounts from rape victims about their rapes and how it affected them. Spent a lot of time thinking about these things and seriously considered his/er previous position. Regardless of what conclusion he/she finally reached s/he'd be a different for the experience.

What CYOAs and others like it do is normalize certain ideas. I'm not saying there's a time and place for debate here but the idea that consuming fiction or nonfiction does not affect the mind is simply..inane.

>>46877922

>Spain it's 13

Raised to 16, actually.

My 'hang-up' is because of the serious and long-term effects of young girls having sex with older people.

https://www.guttmacher.org/about/journals/psrh/2002/11/sexual-intercourse-and-age-difference-between-adolescent-females-and

>>46877973
>He's not going to respond, I already told him to leave and never come back.

?

>>46877874
>Because unlike summoning fucking giant monsters to rip apart kindergarteners, you can do it in real-life.

A batshit motherfucker who thinks he's the reincarnation of bull frog Jesus can grab a machete and hack his way through kindergardeners just as easily as he can choose to brutally rape them first.

>...? How does one follow from the other..?

You just said

>Why does it need to be worse for me to be able to criticize it?

Which implies you think that they're more or less on the same level of bad, despite all the backpedaling and damage control you're doing.

>Conflict is a primary aspect of story-telling and life that isn't really possible to get rid of, unless you mean violent conflict only. Adults having sex with minors isn't.

So we should avoid talking about it completely?

>unless you mean violent conflict only

So there go all of those CYOA about fun adventures in sci-fi and fantasy worlds, too!

I also noticed you haven't responded to me pointing out that you "dislike the fact that you take issue with having sex with underage girls". Like, you just completely avoided that right there. Maybe instead of projecting your flaws so much, you could take up a hobby to better yourself, in order to help counter that?

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/cyoag/: Pedophilia General

>>46877985
Wishful thinking.
You do realize you're not making a difference.
All you're doing is shitting up a thread.

>>46877996
>Which implies you think that they're more or less on the same level of bad, despite all the backpedaling and damage control you're doing.

No, what I meant by the question was that you seemed to be saying that I needed to criticize god-zilla murdering millions before I could criticize this CYOA. I said what I said because I found that line of thinking strange.

>So we should avoid talking about it completely?

I'm taking issue with the normalization of the idea that having sex with underaged girls while you're an adult is ok. That is the crux of my argument. It is not ok and it not be normalized.

>Implying I'm a pedophile.

It was a typo, both of us know that. Argue in good faith or not at all.

>>46877973
>Blessing of Alexander
>England
>1337
Let's do it, lads. Down with Valois!

>>46877985
Your concept of normalisation is a retarded one. FIlms in which the protagonist kills people don't cause the audience to think murder is fun for all the family.

>>46878047
>Your concept of normalisation is a retarded one. FIlms in which the protagonist kills people don't cause the audience to think murder is fun for all the family.

Here is a paper on how the normalization of DV by the media increases the rates of DV.

http://austinpublishinggroup.com/psychiatry-behavioral-sciences/fulltext/ajpbs-v1-id1018.php

>>46878065
Is that so? How lovely, and unutterably credible.
https://scholarlyoa.com/2016/03/03/a-true-predator-austin-publishing-group/

>>46878008
>Dungeon Heart
>Imps 3
>Hand of Evil 3
>Minion bond 2

>Arcane library
>Portal
>Training Room
>Lair

>Meido Maleficarum

>Meddlers
>Young keeper
>Micro-piglets
>Use the reward for extra minion points

>Critters x6
>Nasty critters x2
Zerg rush tactic

>>46878047
Because he's not being sincere. He's trying to get a rise out of you. You think he didn't know that paper was BS?

>>46877985
>Someone who doesn't believe rape is much of an issue in society chooses to take in new information by reading accounts from rape victims about their rapes and how it affected them. Spent a lot of time thinking about these things and seriously considered his/er previous position. Regardless of what conclusion he/she finally reached s/he'd be a different for the experience.

Nobody here is saying that actual, real world child molestation isn't fucked up.

>What CYOAs and others like it do is normalize certain ideas. I'm not saying there's a time and place for debate here but the idea that consuming fiction or nonfiction does not affect the mind is simply..inane.

Bullshit, fiction doesn't exist to serve political ideologies. CYOAs exist as a form of entertainment. It's fun. It's a method of escapism. It's purely fantasy. And at the end of the day, that's all it ever will be.

>No, what I meant by the question was that you seemed to be saying that I needed to criticize god-zilla murdering millions before I could criticize this CYOA. I said what I said because I found that line of thinking strange.

Mass murder is objectively worse than rape.

>I'm taking issue with the normalization of the idea that having sex with underaged girls while you're an adult is ok. That is the crux of my argument. It is not ok and it not be normalized.

No shit, child molestation shouldn't be legalized or considered normal. What an amazing revelation. Which is why nobody here has supported that, and just don't like the idea of being told what they can't include in a genre that relies on unbridled creativity to even exist in the first place.

>It was a typo, both of us know that. Argue in good faith or not at all.

I dunno man, who're you trying to prove this to, exactly?

I'd also like to add that, since you want to stop kids from being raped, there are tons of organizations you can join to stop that shit from happening in the real world, and not just in shitty erotica on 4chan.

>>46878156
>>46878065
Reading through this thing, the grammar seems . . . iffy. I mean, I get that I'm a colossal, faggoty grammar nazi, but the phrasing in this thing is just weird.

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>>46875307
>Fully grown adults aren't adults because they don't adhere to my image standards.
Okay, Australia.

>>46878065
>Violence against women is a serious social problem. Domestic Violence (DV) is one specific type of violence against women...
Dropped like a brick covered in something gross and unidentifiable.
Domestic violence is a genderless problem, in fact the majority of domestic abuse is same-sex. If the writers of this "article" were aiming for anything other than toting their political agenda, they wouldn't have opened it by twisting the stated subject in such a horriblly jarring way.

>>46875721
>speaks binary fluently

>>46878200
>Mass murder is objectively worse than rape.

Perhaps so, but why can't I discuss one without discussing the other?


>No shit, child molestation shouldn't be legalized or considered normal. What an amazing revelation. Which is why nobody here has supported that, and just don't like the idea of being told what they can't include in a genre that relies on unbridled creativity to even exist in the first place.

Yes, and I'm allowed to criticize it's inclusion. I'm allowed to make use of free-speech too, no?

>Nobody here is saying that actual, real world child molestation isn't fucked up.

It was an example of how consuming media can change how you think.

>>46878065
Still reading that "study" of yours. It's hilariously terrible.
Apparently the fact that some cultures have a negative view of women is relevant to their points about media being able to normalize domestic violence. As are quirks of the russian language. I mean, really?
They seem to be just making shit up and then finding something to cite for it. I might hunt down said citations some time, but you could've at least had the decency to cite actual research. That would've been much more fun to tear apart than this shit.

>>46878353
Ah, I shouldn't have called it a study. My apologies. Paper. Whatever.

>>46877973
Blessing of Pheidippides. Dawn of humanity. My name might not be written in the tome of history, but that's ok. I'm happy to see how much I can shape the world through the aeons.

>>46878345
>Perhaps so, but why can't I discuss one without discussing the other?

Because then that opens up the road that we "need to have a discussion" about it as well, and so on.

>Yes, and I'm allowed to criticize it's inclusion. I'm allowed to make use of free-speech too, no?

You're criticizing the use of free speech.

>It was an example of how consuming media can change how you think.

I don't want it to try and change how I think though.

>>46877973
Barring the exploit of "Pheidippes, anywhere, next year", I'd probably choose Alexander and here and now. I like modern conveniences too much to go back in time, and I can't be sure any year beyond my lifespan (especially if I proselytize science and medicine) won't be a hellish dystopia.

>>46876869
CYOA are not about your fucking deep introspection life changing epiphany nonsense. They're fun imagination games, you armchair psycho.

>>46878453
When done well, they can be introspective.
But this is 4chan.

>>46878008
Crystal heart

Functions
Imps 3
Minion bond 3
Hands of evil 3

Facilities
Leftover treasure (will be sacrificed to fill the dungeon heart with power)
Quarters
Portal
Lair
Library -1

Perks
Indestructible wall
Piece of heart (an organic heart placed beneath the crystal heart, eventually the plan is to make it a magic supply for the real heart, also to get aesthetics one day) -1

MDE
Hunters +3
Rival keeper +3
Divine opposition +2

Minions
Golem *2

The idea is to make a trap and strategy based dungeon with all kind of annoying mechanism that will take extensive knowledge and wit to get past. The Imps are on permanent maintenance and riddle variation duty in which they change the details of how to get past each floor every once in a while based on my specifications and their own input. I’ll personally be sitting close to the heart together with my golems to beat up anyone that gets too close.

>>46877117
Honestly, the only thing that disturbs me about this CYOA is that this organization has the power to permanently imprison people, render major technology useless for them, or prevent them from having any financial autonomy, and will do so for fairly petty crimes.

>>46878465
No, when done well, they're fun to imagine and think about.

You're trying to turn entertainment into a self-help seminar. You're in the wrong.

>>46878472
The real question is why Stephanie doesn't have an anti-alcohol chip.

>>46875253
https://client01.chat.mibbit.com/?url=irc%3A%2F%2Firc.rizon.net%2Fcyoa

I get that some people don't want it in the OP but why would this get cut out of the pastebin?

>>46878472
> petty crimes.

I mean it really depends, doesn't it? The hacking especially. Of course cutting her off from the internet is pretty severe but what exactly did she break into? If she broke into a bank and deleted, say, the records then she is a danger. She could also have copied some seriously important info and sold it on the black market. That's not ok either. It really depends on the crimes committed.

That said, I'm not sure Irene's punishment makes complete sense. Why not just bar her from all positions where she'd need to be trusted. Or if you must limit her wealth, then give her a small allowance and not allow her to accumulate more.

>>46878449
99% sure that exploit would just result in you skipping forward a year with no immortality, given that you've by definition reached the present.

>>46877730
You can't distinguish reality from fiction, thus you don't belong on the make belief board.

>>46878034
>having sex with underaged girls while you're an adult is ok
Psst. In almost every country in the world, you can legally have sex with an underaged 16-year-old while being an 18-year-old adult.

>>46878225
>Why else would he want to turn everyone into kids, anon?
Why did you ignore the question?
Kids are. Why would you turn everyone into kids, and make it impossible to tell at a glance who is an adult and who is not?
You're not even one of those "wants to be a little boy raped by an older woman" weirdos since you'd turn women into kids, too, so what's your deal?

>>46878559
Blue board bro, what are you thinking?

>>46877985
>Guys if people play violent videogames they'll murder people in real life!
Jack Thompson, shut the fuck up.

>>46878569
Those are pasties, as far as we know.

>>46878593
>>46878569
why aren't we a red board again?

>>46878514
But when, after you have traveled, has the year equaled the year you are in now?

>>46878555
Because I don't care about your question. I'm pointing out to you the simple fact that these are adults, so your argument has no legal basis except in Australia where video of an adult with small tits is considered contraband.

>>46878605
Because otherwise we'd be /d/ with fantasy races?

>>46875253
Question about that cyoa:
Does choosing a disadvantage that provides with two benefits allow you to take bonus from every collumn, or are you limited by your choice of princess.
For example, if a light princess takes the "rival stepsister" disadvantage, can she take "mistress of dragons" and "pirate princess", or is she still restricted to choices from the light and neutral collumn.

>>46876801
I remember one waifu cyoa where you had to take one disadvantage for each advantage.

>>46878638
im not seeing a problem...as long as the porn doesn't overtake the board...shit even /d/ has cyoa threads now and an occasional quest.

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>>46878555
>You're not even one of those "wants to be a little boy raped by an older woman" weirdos
fuck you man, /ss/ is the best fetish around.

>>46878569
Derp, deleted and reposting with a tamer picture. Forgot that this site had the faggot moderators it does for a moment.

>>46878472
The only one that freaks me out is Shelly, since it turns her into a complete invalid.

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Something new to pass the time.

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>>46878656

>>46878479
I'm (the anon you responded to) not the person you were arguing with before.
I'm just saying that a well-made CYOA CAN (but doesn't have to) pose difficult questions.
It's just that the anonymous and ephemeral nature of 4chan makes just ignoring it easier than actually making a choice.

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>>46875703
Who /vigorous/ here?

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>>46878674

>>46878499
Might not be possible. Yet. That'll be the next step in the dystopia.

>>46878511
I guess so, but unless she committed treason, that's not the kind of crime which gets you a life sentence. Neither are larceny, embezzlement, or improper conduct. Hell, the only girl who would get a life sentence doesn't have any restrictions, although at least that's because they can't prove it. Although the fact that they can sentence her to this program when she's found not guilty is creepy as fuck too...

Anyway, I think this CYOA would be a lot less disturbing and more interesting if their conditions required you to have oversight. E.g. Jimmy and Sammy had to be accompanied by you at all times, Shelly could only use the Internet when you were monitoring her, and any bank account under Irene's control had to be joint with you, and you were required to monitor them. Or the conditions were up for review after a few years pending good behavior. As it is, the program is self-contradictory, because it's based on the premise that love can redeem and rehabilitate, but none of these women can do anything to rehabilitate themselves because they've been locked out of society.

>>46878659
Sauce?

>>46878628
>I'm going to ignore your post
Why even respond? You want statutory rape to be harder to avoid as a ten year old could easily pretend to be legal - she/he looks old enough.
What's your goal?
>>46878659
Fucking someone below the age of consent is rape, anon, what with the whole "can't consent" thing. Femdom would at least be legal, and is basically the same thing: You look for a strong, older (hot) woman to force you to fuck her (rape), unable to push her off.

>>46878668
People find Tolkien's work generic? Granted I've never read any of his works in full and have no plans to but still...

>>46878712
>Why even respond?
Because you went on a moral rant about how sex between consenting adults is rape. That makes you an idiot. Any other criteria about you hating his tastes, or 'waah age will be confusing' is irrelevant to my point, which is that it's not rape.

>>46878726
Bitches aren't familiar with the Silmarillon.

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>>46876530
>using silk bindings
>not using hemp rope instead
Silk is shit for bondage. It slips over itself really easily, and it can easily tighten over itself as the submissive moves and make it nearly impossible for the dominant to untie them, start to cut off circulation, or both.

As for the CYOA, though...

>Sub Name: Matou Sakura
>Type: Anxious
>Sex Toys: Collar, Bondage Cuffs, Whip
>Rewards: Afterplay, Picturesque
>Corrections: Permission, Evolution
>Final Scores: Obedience 3, Dependence 2, Satisfaction 3
>Challenges: Association (Collar), Maid, Wake Up Call, Orgasmo, Exposed

It's a pity that the Punishment options are so suboptimal. This is more or less the optimal build, though.

>>46878668
Tolkien. Making a book so influential that, in the future, there's an entire subgenre that looks like it? That's pretty goddamn awesome.

>>46878726
People that don't know anything about the history of fantasy literature will see a story that's just humans, elves and dwarves fighting an evil orc army.

>>46878707
Ane Taiken Shuukan/older sister experience for a week
>>46878726
Only a retard would find his work generic.

>>46878764
Hemp is rough and feels like shit though.

>>46878648
Can you tell me how people even arrive to the conclusion that the disadvantages might somehow circumvent the princess type restriction? It's pretty clearly just an increase to your maximum allotment of points, if you ask me.

>>46878726
It's several thousand pages of overly wordy landscape descriptions oh and here have some orcs doing a mean thing for a bad dude.

>>46878668
JK Rowling, because that's where the money is. Also having even limited control through one's work over a generation of people or more depending on the longevity of the work is pretty sweet.

>>46878726
The vast majority of fantasy settings are based pretty extensively around it. From the fantasy races to the vaguely menacing evil overlord who's totally going to doom the world any day now, guise to the dungeon crawl... All of it draws inspiration from The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings. So much so that, by the time you do read them, it's easy to feel like you've read this story before a dozen times - because people tried to retell it a dozen times.

>>46878783
>only a retard would find Tolkien generic

No. Don't blame joe, blame the movie producers who turned his books into elf+dwarf+human+wizard VS orcs+thedarklord, dropping most of the lore in the process.

>>46878658
not anymore they don't. mods now delete any cyoa/quest thread when they see it.

>>46878744
>Any other criteria about you hating his tastes
I'm asking him to elaborate on why he'd reduce the entire population to weak, short people who can't reach the top shelf or drive a car.

>>46875253
That reminds me. How is the DLC for Dream Prince coming?

>>46878764
Yeah, it'd be nice if the punishments gave two points to make up for the fact that they cost two choices. I'd pretty much do the exact same build, whereas if we had that option I'd probably do things quite differently.

>>46878799
Hemp rope feels pretty amazing once you've properly conditioned it.

>>46878799
That's half the fun, isn't it? ;)

Besides, there are rope treatments you can do to soften hemp ropes and get rid of the scratchy fibers.

>>46878783
>Little kid found in their brothers room in the morning somehow
>Doesn't immediately freak the fuck out, wondering how he got in
Is he even trying?

>>46878855
What DLC was being made for it?

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>>46876734
author here, go ahead.

>>46878906
Yeah, my bad, it was changed in 2015.

>>46878712
>You look for a strong, older (hot) woman to force you to fuck her (rape)
Okay so its still rape even if I want it?
Wew.

So something something reawakening something something fantasy world, you now have a mythical Spirit Animal. I've got a Phoenix and a Moon Rabbit... can I get some more suggestions?

Cyoa will focus more on how you're bonded with you SA and picking boons, drawbacks and a companion, maybe. Still, I need some diverse mythical animals to get it started.

>>46878890
>;)
Leave
>>46878893
I do think it could make for a short cyoa, about being the little boy and picking your siblings
Then again, the "be little girl" fetishists would scream they can't be a girl and get fucked by their brothers / fuck a little boy, so it wouldn't be too successful

>>46878922
Out of curiosity, would you consider adding +1 Satisfaction to Attachment, +1 Obedience to Interrogation, and +1 Dependence to chastity? It'd make them much more attractive options, since they require two points to choose.

>>46878868
Yeah, if Punishments gave two points I'd probably drop Evolution and Collars and pick up Interrogation, even if collars are sort of an iconic symbol of BDSM. Aftercare's just too important for the sub's well-being to drop.

>>46878668
New rules.
This but with CYOA's
>Found a new CYOA genre
>Everybody starts referencing your CYOA
>you become popular on funnyjink

>>46878950
Generic wolf or dragon for the underage bans. Bears for the wannabe Russians. Penguin as a shoutout to Fight Club. Moose because moose are fucking awesome. Chimera for that guy who just can't choose and is ok getting weaker bits of everything.

>>46878855
>>46878895

I have a 2 page DLC in the works but it's stalled out as I have a few options I just can't think of something good for.

So far I have for the DLC....
3 dreamrealm shapings
2 items (shooting for 6 items)
2 darker dreams (need 3 disadvantages total)
3 quests/adventures
9 damsels in distress, still need to write up like 6 of them.

>>46878991
Maybe Nightmares for the darker dreams? I don't remember if you have something like this, but manifestations of your subconscious fears that you have to deal with would be pretty interesting. As for items... What have you got so far?

>>46878950
Manticores, Chimeras, Pegasus, Unicorns, Dragons, Wyverns, Coutals (winged snakes), Dopplegangers, Kelpies, Kappas, Gorgons, Basilisks, Cockatrices, Gryphons, Hippogryphs, Hippocampus, Kirins, Hydras, Nightmares...to name a few.

>>46879016
Items I have a ship upgrade that can be taken multiple times and adds more room/crew and an hourglass that lets you know the status of the quest/damsel you're on/saving.

Hmm I don't have a nightmare...That may be do-able. Thanks!

>>46878950

Spirit Owl
Spirit Jackalope
Spirit Fox
Spirit Loli

What're you looking for here? I have trouble seeing how you'd have trouble coming up with different animals. You could literally do one only for specific animal subsets if you wanted, for example: Ravens, Owls, Doves, Eagles, Falcons, Pheonii, Thunderbirds, ...

>>46879140
I have some questions about Dream Prince if you don't mind.

1. Can we just stay in the dream world permanently? I see no reason to want to keep my waking life if the alternative is so, so much better.

2. Are there other kingdoms in the dreamworld besides the one we create? Not talking about PvP though (that's pure toxic) just something "NPC" controlled beyond what we design.

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>>46879197
>Not talking about PvP though (that's pure toxic)
>toxic
I don't understand your gripes with PvP and suffice say I'll probably never understand if you keep using those words.

>>46879155
You'd be surprised how badly my mind can just shut down. Seeing some suggestions, even generic, obvious ones, somehow helps.

Maybe I should've asked for more specific suggestions, like what would YOU consider an interesting mythological spirit animal and why?

(Just to get the brain juices flowing)

What I really want is a more 'advanced' version of Dream Princess. Making it more like Dream Prince.

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Not sure what I'm going to do next, got some ideas for a few things so decided to straw poll it to see what the interest is in any of them:

http://www.strawpoll.me/10035851

Main concerns at the minute is that art is more difficult to find for Werewolves and Goblins than it was for Vampire King. Guess Goblins isn't that hard really.

May also just decide to just do one regardless of interest shown but I figure it's worth seeing what's what.

>>46879217
Not that anon, but I'm pretty sure any CYOA that has PvP and doesn't explicitly give you a method of avoiding it pretty much forces people to build for PvP rather than whatever they'd enjoy the most.

>>46879197
1. I guess you'd have to find a way to stay there. Perhaps I should add something like in Dream Princess where if you die you can stay in the dream realm permanently.

2. The Dreamrealm may have other kingdoms if you wish and in some instances, is expected. It's all up to how you want to dream it really.

>>46879217
>why PvP is shit

It turns your cyoa into a panicky minmax game because there is always, always that one anon who will design the most buildshit, overpowered and often boring build just so he can hunt down or enslave other anons.

>>46879247
PvP with a properly balanced CYOA is the best.
My design philosophy is that CYOAs should revolve around minmaxing and making the cleverest possible builds and PvP gives just the right incentives for that.

>>46879227
Make it.

>>46878800
>Choose 7 benefits from only the light and neutral columns.
>Choose two more benefits.
It isn't clear if the restriction covers more than the original 7 benefits.

I'm not a native english speaker, though.

While I'm at it:
How do "Superior Princess" stacks with the choices that require mobility ? For example "On Your Best Behaviour"; can the rituals be realised anywhere or do you have to come back to your kingdom constantly?
Are the races really supposed to combine ? I can be a Fae Drow Vampire on her way to simultaneous angel- and demon-hood.
Do the changes in "Not-So-Royal Behavious" affect the princess, the kingdom or the entire dream world?
For the "Rival Stepsister", by "she can never gotten rid of", is it meant in day-to-day life, or are any attempts to emprison / exile her fated to fail? Asking because it's a recurrent element in fairy tales.
I'm wondering how you can capture a princess if you can't invade a kingdom (since only parts of them are in the "misty realm". How is the captured pricess' father suposed to free her? Send adventurers or a champion? Or is raiding with an army allowed?

I've spent yesterday afternoon proofreading a homebrew for a friend, so I'm particularly nitpicky today.
Liked that cyoa a lot, btw.

>>46879261
Minmaxing is fucking boring.

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>>46879283
Depends in the CYOA.
I'm sure you can figure out some Clever combo if you're creative, unless you're fucking boring yourself.

>>46879234
I voted Fairies. Here's why.

>Werewolves
Unless you're really going to be original, there will always be pack dynamics at work here. Hence I assume all the waifus would automatically have to be submissive and you would have to be some testosterone fueled brute. That's too intense for me.

>Fairies
I'm afraid this is going to be very Fae-ish, but I trust you can find a good balance between Cthulhu in disguise and Tinkerbell. I trust you, Sock. I trust you with my vote.

>Goblin
Ugly af. I'm vain, shoot me. Unless you could make them not so ugly, then I guess this gets my vote.

>Vampire Child page
This is nightmare fuel. Drusa is not going to be a mother. I don't want to think about succession either.

>>46879300
No, it never 'depends on the CYOA', minmaxing always relies on going with what's the best mechanically, meaning same-y builds of people doing what's most effective, not what they enjoy.

>>46879325
>This is nightmare fuel.
>Anon is scared of having cute kids with his waifu.
Why tho

>>46879261
Artifex let you make tons of fun builds. Then the Reapers/Slayers came. PvP really messed that one up.

Is there a positive example of pvp out there?

>>46879224

How bout some ill omens?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moddey_Dhoo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strix_%28mythology%29

Barring that, spirit loli

>>46878668
>JK Rowling
Harry Potter doesn't actually have all that much of an extended universe. What it does have is a metric fuckton of fanfiction. Harry Potter was the fandom that practically invented modern fanfiction. It existed as a concept beforethen but not in the same shape, and not nearly to the same degree.

>>46879274
>It isn't clear if the restriction covers more than the original 7 benefits.
Since they don't explicitly state that the additional choices aren't restricted in a similar manner, it should be safe to assume that the additional options follow the same logic as the original ones, (i.e. they're restricted by your princess type).
>I'm not a native english speaker, though.
Neither am I.

>>46879339
Because possibly I might, I just might have maybe genderbend my Drusa.

>>46879327
What works best against one build is not necessarily what works best against another.
That's why you need PvP, so the challenge isn't the same every time leaving you with a single optimal build.
>>46879346
Power Armour.

>>46879234
I'm disappointed nobody wants goblin shorstacks personally. I mean, I wanted vampire kids more, but still, second vote right there.

>>46877260
>>46877271
Neat Update. Rorch is still going to be an actual World though.

>>46879247
Remember Magical Realm.
Remember Domain Master.

Even Jumpchain avoids PVP.

PVP kills CYOAs.

>>46879378
>Power Armor
Shitposty thread about autism and wank fests.

Also, no single optimal build? Every PVP CYOA has those. Look at Monster Hunter and the overdrive warriors.

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>>46879217
Issues with PVP usually lie in the people your potentially stuck with. While it isn't a perfect comparison the 'Bartle Test of Gamer Psychology' explains it best. Way to many people sitting around just for murder.

Take the Culling from Monster Hunter. Sure, on its own it could work, but given the fact your stuck in here with min-maxers and a guy who could turn the conflict into the battle of the Somme, it takes away from everyone who isn't there to murder.

Artifex was actually a bit more balanced granting incentives to the 'achievers' and 'explorers' but there was still a huge incentive for the killers that drives others away.

You CAN make a PvP cyoa. But it needs balance.

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>>46879353
Are you the kind of person who would pick D in this image without hesitation?

>>46879346
>PvP in CYOAs
>anything but a dick-waving contest
>ever

Seriously, if you want good PvP, you need an actual system to support it, which brings us out of the realm of CYOAs and into the realm of games (be it tabletop or vidya).

>>46879325
>This is nightmare fuel. Drusa is not going to be a mother

It'd be more like pick from a bunch of special mortals to get a one or two more queens.

Really only have vague notions about all this. Goblins is going to be more about trying to unite disparate groups, the Vampire Child page would have a recently defrosted cavewoman as one of the options and in Fairies the character explaining the options is probably going to be a magic talking dog-thing.

>>46879396
That's just because they intentionally misinterpreted how Overdrive works. Ruining the balance that is so vital to PvP.

>>46879421
>bunch of special mortals
Why not special immortals too? Why mortals specifically...?

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So, I thought I'd try making one of these. I threw this together last night & put the finishing touches on it this morning. Does it seem balanced in terms of costs and abilities? It has been a while since I actually read through all of Conduit.

>>46879140
Maybe something that gives you more time - doesn't slow it down, per se, but things work on a "dream time" basis so you'll be doing things for what feels like an hour but only five minutes have passed. Maybe some sort of object that protects you from dangerous terrain, letting you survive in the Arctic or a volcano or the depths of space? I'd also like to see some kind of dream buffet - impossible food is the best food.

>>46879412

Probably, though C is also pretty tempting.

>>46879234
>Werewolf Chief
Everyone would probably be extremely bro tier.
>Fairy ???
D U D E
W E E D
L M A O
>Goblin Correlation Leader(?)
As there seems to be very many types of them it would be something else. Interesting for sure.
>More Vampire
I was under the expression vamps were sterile but that was just an assumption.

Why you do this. I can't. This is a tough one.

>>46879433
Well because you make vampires out of mortals. This isn't some Japanese thing where adults get adopted to take over the family business, you have to make them vampires yourself and they're special in that they have more potential than other people.

Maybe there'd be a couple of other species that are relatively close to humans.

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>>46879327
>minmaxing always relies on going with what's the best mechanically
Actually you're just basic, like I suspected.
Since there aren't any "kingdom builder" sort of CYOAs around here, I'll go pick something else. >>46766129 it is.

Average, 14 years old. +1 MAG.
Gravity. +4 MAG
Mystic, Enhanced+1 MAG
Elaborate, Accumulator.+1 MAG
Teleportation.(+1 MAG)
Perks: Gifted(+1 MAG), Blood Magic(+1 MAG), Purification Artifact(+1 MAG), Incognito(+1 MAG), Mana Channel(+1 MAG)

A random gimmick build that still ends up being powergamey as fuck. I use my giant magical reserves to avoid attacks, accumulator for bonus mana regen, and Gravity still gives me tons of physical damage spells.
Are there other builds out here? Yes. Does that mean I'm using a bad build? Not really.

Now go lie for your own benefit elsewhere.

>>46879346
Slayer wasn't so bad. My favorite build for that was a Slayer who exploited the wording to just defeat Artifexes in contests and the like rather than killing them. Reaper is pure unadulterated shit, though.

>>46879489
I've never understood this idea that you can't turn, say, fairies into vampires too. What's preventing it? The only thing humans have going for them is that they're unable to fight back against the vampire. If, however, the fairy was willing to undergo the change..why not?

>>46879357
That's a shame. I'd happily take one of them for even one additional benefit from the wrong column.

>>46879378
>Power Armor

But that's PVE with a Quest-like rules set.

>>46876530
Every time I see that thumbnail on mobile I think the fox girl is a picture of Hitler

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>>46879412
>hating on Elona

Wow rude

>>46879445
Looks like you refer to "Student Slimes" as "Sapient Slimes" in all the description texts. You should probably fix that, and replace the word "sentience" in the first line of Student Slimes' description with the word "sapience".

>>46879470
Not sure on how the time thing would work. Dangerous terrain object sounds interesting, though I figured the armor would protect you in general. The food I figured was handled by the pavilion but I could do a cornucopia style device.

>>46879224
An USA president.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln's_ghost

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>>46879530
>hating
Where did you get that idea?

>>46879445
Your description of Gelenne immediately lost me. If your world is generic flat slimy terrain, there's nothing to really explore. There's gotta be something periodically reversing the entropy - goo transforming into nature-defying structures untouched by human hands, for example.

>>46879511
Could be the whole highly magical blood being incompatible or that in some stories fey aren't really solid people and just an energy in person form.

>>46879565
> fey aren't really solid people
Why not make fairies solid people?

> highly magical blood being incompatible

Why not make them compatible? For fuck's sake they're vampires. What do fucking vampires have in common with humans barring the same physical shape? Why can't vampires just breed among themselves?

>>46879412
Well, the little girl IS the best mechanically. Can't go wrong there.

>>46879445
Could this perhaps be your fetish?

>>46879553
Aww he bagged a loli....did he shield bash her unconscious or are those suspicious stains on the hammer from the poor loli being bashed. Lolibashers the CYOA.

>>46879577
Whoever makes a cyoa can do whatever they want. I'm just relating stuff from storybooks and folklore.

>>46879577
Because vampires are dead bodies, have you tried fucking a dead body and have a baby pop out?

>>46879445
So this is like a slimier, more fetishy version of Lily. WHY?!

>>46879612
So why would they reproduce with humans...?

>>46879536
It basically relies on time not working the way it actually works, but instead working on dream principles. It doesn't speed you up or slow the world down - someone looking at you wouldn't notice any differences - but nevertheless, whenever you check the clocks, only a fraction of the time that should have passed has passed. You could either do it as an adjustable version, or a "dramatic" time so you'll always arrive just when you need to, your parties will always last until you're tired of them, and so on.

>>46879501
Yeah, that was my view. I don't like Slayers, but I could tolerate them.

Reapers? How about fuck no? Potentially being trapped for eternity is a bullshit consequence.

>>46879615
Maybe there should be a special category for Lily and Gelenne that is even less canon than other non-canon worlds.
That way people can get it out of their system.

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>>46879535
Well, they're all Sapient Slimes. The ones you form a bond with become Student Slimes. I added a line to better indicate that.

>>46879559
I see what you mean. I had something to make it more exciting in the Atlas (imitation structures crafted by the natives). I added a line to the introduction to make that more clear from the start. There can be a variety of cultures and architectures as numerous as the number of otherworldly influences to have ever landed into the world.

>>46879588
>>46879615
I thought I'd make a world & these were the images I had on hand. It was just a small project, so I didn't want to spend too much like looking for things.

>>46879612
If vampires can have sex, blood circulation for one has to still be present or no boners. So vampires clearly aren't 100% dead corpses. So I don't see why pregnancy should be impossible.

Alternative: have Drusa shapeshift herself a compatible womb or some shit.

>>46878766
It's a defining piece of work, but he was hardly alone in creating fantasy (or even high fantasy). CS Lewis with The Chronicles of Narnia comes to mind.

>>46879445
if you added more D&D far realms (IE mind numbing madness from beyond the realm of everything) you could have a damn good fanworld

>>46879674
Narnia has very little in common with modern fantasy. Most settings aren't about Jesus guiding you by the hand.

>>46879651
>blood circulation for one has to still be present or no boners

Dear friend, have you heard the good word of Baculum?

>>46879412
What's this from?

>>46879642
Meh, doesn't bother me. I'll save it. Some people just want all Conduit worlds to be edgy death worlds so the fact that this is lighter in tone bothers them. Not me though.

>>46879721
Elona.

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>>46879642
shieeeet
Everybody come up with a world based only on the pics you have on your computer right now.
See what kind of quality you can achieve.

>>46879746
>200,000 images
>Can make literally anything
>Would probably just be about bug tits or something because I'm lazy.

>>46879713
No. Just no. That would be so incredibly weird.

Although that really should have been a perk in the skeleton gangrape cyoa.

>>46879642
Try Making it so the Slime doesn't digest EVERYTHING, That would result in both remainders from the Past for slimes to worship or investigate, as well as possible methods for newcomers to stay relatively safe. Maybe a Perk for Slime-Proofing for those who want to keep other things here. Some color differentiation of slime due to personality or energy or whatever would be nice too.

>>46879642
5/10 world when we have qlippoth
7/10 for your first attempt at just putting shit together. would be interesting to see you put effort into a world...certainly you are on the road to success...

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>>46879774
The point is to be lazy.
It's not about making some high-concept thematic world, it's about quickly grabbing a bunch of jpegs that trigger the reptilian part of your brain.
Yeah it'll turn into fetish shit, but it'll be your fetish and you're unique.
I just grabbed two images and I'm going to say the connecting theme is mild femdom so the world would be largely the same as the Rim except you build a society with reversed gender roles that you can upgrade the women with monstergirl powers in.

>>46879746
why not, idunno, make a full cyoa instead?
I've never gotten this need to make a tiny addition to someone elses work.

>>46879842
Well with other worlds it's about connecting it to the setting, building a multiverse.
With Gelenne and this however it's just dicking around with the concept and random images like mad libs to spend the time.

>>46879840
>a society with reversed gender roles
you'd be the only one who knew things are different (compared to your world)
what's the fun in that?
How would you make a (light, not the fucked up shit with literally licking her boots and being a footstool a la drow society) CYOA?
If you're an inhabitant of the world, that's how things always were, and if you're an outsider that's still how things always were.
In neither case would it be fetishy.

>>46879904
>fucked up shit
>licking her boots
That's pretty vanilla tho.

>>46879919
Not if she stepped in mud beforehand, m88.

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>>46879588
>>46879615
Also, images aside, I was striving for something that built on the idea of being very useful while in your territory but nigh worthless everywhere else, also with an emphasis on defense. The couple of slimegirl options and image choices aside, is it that fetishy?

>>46879678
I was trying for bizarre and uncomprehsible, but other than perpetually melting while there, I couldn't come up with much good in the way of that. Maybe natural structures shaped from the dreams and subconscious minds of otherworld people?

>>46879725
Really? Even all the official ones aren't that edgy or dangerous.

>>46879793
>Maybe a Perk for Slime-Proofing.
I actually intended something like that but I completely forgot about it. I just added it to Improved Slime Control (and increased the cost).

>>46879842
Personally, I just thought I'd try something I haven't before. I normally just make my own things, but I thought it'd be fun doing something new like this.

>>46879919
Licking shoes is fucking gross. Footfag shit is mild fetishism, but shoes? Hell no. You'll get germs.

>>46878950
Succubus.

>>46879881
With Gelenne, I'm not sure it's just random Mad-Libs. A short time Ago I made A huge post for someone who's interested in making a conduit world who has made other Cyoas before, I said that as long as It was an Idea that wasn't done for a world before, fit into the conduit schema, and was Well developed It would work. After a While Gelenne came out and it actually does Follow these suggestions.
>>46879929 Proves It. Considering both the fact that these Images were already on their computer, It's safe to assume that their Past works had a fair amount of slimes. There was also a Short Burst of genie galleries earlier which cut out again Recently.
T.L.D.R. Beri Created Gelenne Confirmed.

>>46875703
Vigorous Body
Strength (100)
Atomic Heart (75)
Genius (55)
Radio (50)
Arms (40)
Toolbox (30)
Lucernium (10)
Close Quarters Training (5)
Jetpack man

The Buried Eagle (25)

My plan is as simple as it gets; use brute strength to punch the shit out of the Nazis. My four arms, I can punch twice as many Nazis or punch them while doing something else. Bullets? I'm practically indestructible (which might make my punches more powerful.) Starvation? Tiring me out? Drowning? Impossible as well, for I have the miracle of the Atomic Heart. Puzzles? I have the brain of a genius, and if that is not enough, I could just use my brute strength.The Nazis may run, but they need to sleep and eat. I will destroy them all, save the archaeological team, and return home a hero.

>>46879881
yeah, but you could make an actual cyoa, something new.
I have zero interest in doing conduit so for me you're removing potential players by latching on to it.
You do you, of course, I simply disagree with the method.

>>46879929
I mean, you have an infinite prison world, flaming skeleton hell, Dune with Genies, depressing no color land, ash land, dark souls, that's off the top of my head as far as Conduit goes. They're all pretty death-worldy

>>46879919
I said reversed gender roles, not femdom
as in
>women are more dominant and expected to take matters into their own hand (including flirting/asking someone on a date), men are more submissive and unlikely to ask for promotions
etc. etc., rather than
>men are completely subservient to women, basically slaves whose only use is being talked shit to and used as living dildos.

>>46879988
I'm wanting to do a gallery today, but I might have to spontaneously go out. I don't want to get the images & then take 10 or 12 hours to finish it because I go out in the middle of working on it. Also, yesterday, I had the last session of a D&D campaign. Before that, I had some code and papers to write. I've just been busy. So that's why there haven't been any galleries in a bit. Not sure when the next one will be. *Maybe* later today if I figure out more about my schedule & get back early enough.

>>46879904
>>46880048
A /gfd/ and/or /rr/ CYOA would probably be a standard waifu one.
Pick a world (Real world but reversed, post-scarcity Orwellian SJW sci-fi world, high fantasy but men are wuxia and women are casters), pick a waifu, pick some perks.

>>46880021
Yeah, it's definitely only for the in-group.
Luckily it's not a business so we don't have to worry about attracting as much potential readers as possible.

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I feel like I should make a kind of second part to this. Either a companion list or some kind of shop? I have a few ideas for helpful but also potentially dangerous artifacts that would fit in

>>46879929
It still feels completely uninteresting. I want permanent slime-based landmarks - slowly melting-and-reforming forests or steppes or landscapes made up of weird geometric structures, mountains of slime slowly pulling themselves upwards, or flowing towers and gravity-defying superstructures of slime.

>>46880055
Ah ok. There Goes that Theory.

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>>46880065
meanwhile I have no ideas whatsoever for companions for this really.

>>46880055
I'm OK waiting 10-12 hours.

>>46880044
There's also: A literal Sex-World, a World that's designed for comfort, and a musical series of tropical Islands which are all official.

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I like magic cyoas where you are not the ultimate reality shifter. Just someone with cool powers.
Do you have some more like this one?


Also thread magic is best.

>>46880062
why would you intentionally try to get as few people to read it as possible?
That's like writing it with a hard to read font.

>>46880109
>A literal Sex-World
And people are complaining about a land made out of slime.

>>46880109
Not to mention a giant crystalline tower, infinite space, and fluffy cloud heaven. None of them are safe, but they don't seem any worse than Earth.

>>46880065
>>46880084
I have a question; Can the champions of Charity, Kindness, and Humility use their powers to benefit the sin champions (for example, can Humility use his Deify power on one of them?)

>>46880109
I dream of the day when I can destroy Polyamora.

>>46880178
The crystal place is full of constant lightning storms and clouds of living glass that hate you.

>>46880109
The sex-world isn't that fleshed out but there's some hints that there's some very unpleasant 'that's not my fetish' stuff around.
The fact that Bevin is comfy is the one and only feature of the world. It's what sets it apart from the standard. Because the standard is dangerous.
Even Uthuli is a primitive world full of warring tribes and natural disasters.

>>46880021
You're looking at it the wrong way. It's not done to be read, it's done out of genuine enthusiasm for the setting. Like fanfiction.

>>46880174
Pretty much nobody likes Polyamora, though. Plus, even it's less boring than slime world, because there's at least all different kinds of sex.

>>46880115
Chef Magic
Because food is good but magic food is better.

>>46880060
that sounds awfully boring. So it would be yet another girlfriend cyoa, but she doesn't act like a submissive brat who can't live without you.

>>46880221
I'm thinking that a lot of people do not like 'all different kinds of sex'.

Anyway isn't the slime world meant to have a slime environment and stuff going on? It has the potential to be more interesting.

>>46880214
Living glass only hates you if you don't buy the drawbacks off.

>>46880065
>>46880084
Still gonna take Humility. I don't need credit when I have the power to strengthen others.

>>46880044
Like >>46880109 said, they all don't seem edgy. I did try to keep with the theme of deadly, though. Any more than a week in where and your skin will start melting off. If the Native Dangers are bought off, though, then there's still the extreme difficulty in navigating.

>>46880218
again, you do you.
It's just a shame that you're making something I might enjoy, but I'll never get around to doing it.

>>46880239
It does. If the author can fix it to make it clear it's not just a lake of sludge but actually has slimy landscapes, it'd be much more interesting. I like the idea of the slime having some sort of subconscious, not quite sentient, that causes it to make things.

>>46880214
>>46880178
Speaking of, does anyone else feel like Crystal Spire's minions are really underwhelming? It's literally just a barely sentient computer cube that might be able to get smarter, but is still nothing more than a talking computer cube. Then the other option is a rock dog that spits static. Compared to the potential power, usage, or even personality of all other minions in the CYOA, these guys are pretty much nothing.

>>46880065
>>46880084
I don't particularly understand the appeal of this cyoa. It's rather depressing: having to follow a - I think - Christian god and using your powers almost completely to the benefit of others while you yourself are very much at risk of literal hell and brimstone, without being allowed to enjoy the pleasures of life.

Every option is like a heavy burden. Is that what you were going for/ what were you going for?

>>46876530
yeah, my writing is kind of clinical. I think I'd need a perspective shift to fix it, which probably won't happen.

>>46876577
>it's the path to making her submissive that's fun.
I'll keep that in mind for the future. Might even be enough to just change the text for the girls, but this probably won't get updated for a long time if ever.

Almost every build has counted the points incorrectly (the prerequisites are probably too onerous), but you're the first to say the whole thing doesn't make sense.

>>46876801
the fetish ones often require you to "earn" points, but you tend to do so through options that align with your fetish.

>>46878764
>>46878868
If I update this, I'll make more options, and there will be more punishments without requirements (or with laxer/easier requirements). I don't think I can fix those kinds of problems without adding more options.

Made a note about the rope, thanks.

>>46878959
my plan when maybe coming back to this was to double the number of Session options and relax prereqs. What you suggest (combined with dropping the number of points by 1, maybe) sounds like a good quick-fix, but I don't want to niggle around with slightly different versions.

Eventually I'll probably feel like going back and fixing up old CYOA, but for now I just try to take the lessons when I move on to the next one.

>>46879412
I picked D every time. I even tried riding her, but that was suboptimal.

>>46879355
At this current time Tolkien is the one with the large extended universe. It's early days for Rowling though, Fellowship was published 15 years after The Hobbit so I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up writing more, especially after the probably success of fantastic beasts

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>>46880192
Why would you want to? They're the enemies you're meant to defeat. Even if those three virtues don't have any specific rules against it, the other virtues probably wouldn't take too kindly to it. And Diligence is somebody you do NOT want to piss off.

Especially since the virtues were designed to sub-optimal on their own. They need eachother to realize their true potential (charity with diligence, who can hold back as he beats him up to strengthen him without killing him; kindness' powers work by being with the other virtues, not the sins; and with humility's physical abilities, it'd be pretty hard to get close enough to the sins to deify them without dying)

>>46880299
It's the counterpart to Quiet Anon's Deadly Sins CYOA where you get to live a life of eternal inadequacy and flaws as an avatar of sin eternally seeking power in your sphere and fighting the other sins to the death.

>>46880299
Most of the powers let you benefit yourself to at least some degree, they just impose limits on what you can do with them. The only one I couldn't live with is chastity.

Which is good, because Patience is the best power set anyway.

>>46880325
So they both suck.

One forces PvP. The other forces moral sainthood.

Where is the golden middle-road option?

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>>46879929
the problem is your world is too one themed.

slimes are nice and all but you need something...more complex.

weird slime dimension that disobeys physics has a minor knack for 30th dimensional sciences at the cost of sanity and just is everything our natural multiverse just isnt. now thats a damn deadly world with some good possibilities.

or maybe its prey to the great and terrible qlippoth...who knows?

>>46880406
God doesn't tolerate neutrality.

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>>46880065
>Even thinking about doing nay acts that falls under the domain of the seven deadly sins will drain your power
Oh look its the "don't pick me" power.

>>46880392
>patience

Every moment you are not striving towards the eradication of the Sins or just doing your divine job, you are indirectly causing the death of people which probably weakens you.

No, thank you.

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>>46877973
>Blessing of Achilles
Thank you Chronos.
>Pick a year and nation
United States, 1997. But I need a partner to make this work.
>>46877117
Shelly? A definite taker. A hacker who knows her stuff can do some serious shit near the beginning of the www. I can teach her how to shoot and drive later, but I can't teach her how to be a hacker. We can always cut that chip out, anyways.

>>46880299
*tips fedora*
somebody made a sin cyoa:
>>46880319
Where you become the champion of one of the seven deadly sins purely to wreak havoc upon the world. I love holy stuff and felt that a virtue counterpart would be interesting and fun to make. You are at risk of hell and brimstone just as much as any non-champion, and the restrictions have multiple reasons:
>balance
some of the virtues have ridiculously overpowered abilities (you have no idea how secret-op chastity is), so they're given heavy restrictions to counter that
>mirroring the other cyoa
the sins have their own restrictions, even if they're a lot less harsh
>You're supposed to be the chosen one (of seven)
You are wielding the power of the heavens. You shouldn't be a douche when you're repping the good side.

If you're afraid of muh restrictions, go easy mode kindness. Then you just have to be with the other virtues. Of course, you won't be that special yourself (pretty much nothing you do affects yourself, and any gear you spawn would generally be better on another virtue). Or if you want to be the one doing everything, become diligence, become goku. You can do stuff while exercising if you want: read while doing pushups, play some DS while you run around the city block, etc. Once the world is no longer at stake, THEN you can fuck around

>>46880412
>Muh Cthulhu eats your sanity!
How about fuck no. That shit is boring, and tired, and making you completely non-functional for your outer god fetish is retarded.

>>46880406
What's the neutral version of the cardinal sins / heavenly virtues?
You should figure that out before you make it.

>>46880406
What do you think this is, Shin Megami Tensei?

>>46880423
Hence there should be a third option that features the comeback of ancient religions/gods and their cooperation to regain superiority while Heaven/Hell is distracted.

They'd give more moral freedom but still sonewhat force their chosen to work together.

>>46880430
>every time you DIRECTLY damage somebody
what you're bringing up is about as indirect as it gets. Creator here, I always imagined patience fighting via Rube Goldberg machines, constructed mid-battle using time powers

>>46880461
That's idiotic. This is a monotheistic setting, and you want to wank your pagan gods in for no reason. Full retard.

>>46880429
Do you have this in 1080p?

>>46880430
Good thing it only cares about you directly damaging people, you illiterate piece of trash.

>>46880319
I was curious. Though now I wonder, what if one of the Sins wanted to aid the Virtues. I mean, such an alliance would give the Virtues an edge. It may be difficult for a Sin to keep there power in check, but it isn't impossible. Further more, Kindness's Wish ability can be used to benefit both parties should the Sin wish it.
For example, let's say Wrath wanted to help the Virtues, yet his need for destruction to keep up his powers would be a major problem. This could easily be solved with Wish ("I wish a lack of destruction would no longer denature my powers or send me to hell"). Patience's Calm ability could keep the Wrath's anger in check, preventing any accidental outbursts.
As for what the other Virtues would think, I will admit, you have a point.

>>46880480
Sorry. Why, though?

>>46880440
Look up the Aristotelian Virtues.

>>46880492
>I wish lack of destruction wouldn't decrease my powers
Wouldn't that be a decent motivator to get Wratch to assist the Virtues? Make some "If you kill a Virtue, you lose the boon" addition to the wish and boom, he no longer has to cause destruction, and working against the Virtues would fuck him over.
>>46880522
I'll see what those are when you've made the CYOA.

>>46880295
Worst world

>>46880218
>it's done out of genuine enthusiasm for the setting
well.... most are
some I think are just trying their hand at what seems to be a popular thing to do, you can sort of notice them because they mimick other fanworlds rather than the original Thrallherd worlds

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>>46880517
Animooted wallpaper that is sorta like the one I'm using.

>>46880106
>>46880092
>>46880114

|Basic Shapeshifting
.\Gender Change
..\ Partial Gender Change
|Lust Vision
.\5 Incite Role
..\6 Mind Control
.\Lust Vision Plus
..\Lust Vision Ultra
|Immunity
.\Stamina
|Starter Skills
.\The Touch
| Fetish Detection
.\Conditioning
|Passive Rechange
.\Passive Upgrade
|Sexy Rechange
.\ Virgin Boost
|Karma Engine
.\Dark Energy
|Succubus Form +2
|Hunger +3

Conquer the world or at least corrupt Atlantic City enough to have control of the city and control of the female politicial class. Prostitution; may require taking on the national/state femlae political class. Clubs with stages mere inches off the floor. (Again, may require playing with the federal and state political classes.) Booze production; definite the federal laws inovlving production of liquor will have to change. She has her own camreas so no need for Studio. the entire state will bend to the ecconomic might of Atlantic City once enough money is being made.

>>46880492
You could theoretically give the Sins things that they can act out their impulses on without causing harm. For example, Patience could make Wrath things that they could destroy, or Gluttony things they can eat. Diligence could probably enter a consensual relationship with Lust as the one person who can keep up with her. And so on.

>>46880476
Why not? A battle between the Heavens and Hell is the perfect time for all the smaller deities or other creepy crawlies to make their mark. Third dog gets the bone and all that shit.

>>46880433
Or you could have Patience set up one of those stationary bicycles that generate electricity with use and watch TV while doing that.

>>46880569
You mean things that don't exist in the setting?

>>46880476
You know that the classical Abrahamic faith does, in fact, recognize foreign deities? It's just that the dude doesn't like them, so he fights them to the death and murders people who leave him.

>>46880295
It was still popular for the flight ability.
I guess every world has a speciality, the Spire goes really far into personal powers while the Rim is super minion-y.

>>46880565
Lust can only gain charges by doing disgusting shit after a certain point, and only unlocks her full power by doing something so foul even someone who engages in underage shit rape orgies is disgusted. So there's nothing at all you can do to help Lust, nobody can help them. They're not Pride or Envy where they might be able to find some level of functionality and balance, they're screwed in all definitions of the word.

>>46880429
That goes back to the origin of the seven deadly sins, wherein it was the fact that you have these thoughts of pride and lust and such means you're going to hell. It was bullshit, but when you're becoming a motherfucking angel, yeah, you shouldn't be thinking about that stuff. Chastity has the highest risk-reward. If they're both at full power, a 1v1 between chastity and any given sin would go like this:
>chastity points at the sin, firing her laser
>ten seconds pass
>the sin no longer exists

>>46880598
A seven deadly sin/seven heavenly virtues CYOA is based on Christianity. Christianity doesn't recognize other gods. Only Ancient Judaism (not modern) recognized other gods, and they had no concept of the 7/7 thing.

>>46880588
Says who. Before the 7 Virtues cyoa was made, there was no reason to assume Heavenly interference in the Sins' game. Now there is. Same can be done again.

>>46880622
Modern Christianity is an exaggerated meme religion, and Tetra is a war god.

>>46880295
I'm more interested in the technopathy, lightning control, and flight, to be honest. Not every world needs minions.

>>46880605
It's just the odd man out as far as minions go, nowhere else has ones this underwhelming, boring, and useless, you know?

>>46880634
See >>46880635 , I understand that, it just seems off compared to everyone else, is all.

>>46880631
But it's the religion the CYOA is based on.

>>46880631
Also, who are you referring to with 'Tetra'? That's not a name I'm familiar with in regards to the theorized Semitic Polytheistic precursor to Yahweh.

>>46880612
>MY cyoa's power ALWAYS beats YOUR cyoa's power

Fuck you. You don't just get to decide Charity can easily beat any other Sin when at full power.

Unless Quiet accepts your cyoa's insertion that is, and your blatant powertripping.

>>46880635
Yeah, I guess the fact that the stupid things get perks allocated to them is sort of unfortunate.
I mean it's not that all worlds should have equally great minions but I can see how two types of living crystals that aren't even that useful get 2 perks for controlling them is sort of bullshit.

>>46880565
That is a good idea, but one problem: Gluttony will, as part of his weaknesses, slowly go mad. There is no directly stated way to stop it, and should he try to resist indulging in the madness, he will lose his powers. Not to mention his Ravenous Hunger power will cause any non Deified mortal to start attacking others out of hunger. While it is true this could be solved with Wish, it seems like something that will take three or four wishes, meaning either Gluttony doesn't get his weaknesses removed, or other people would have to give up their wishes to help him. It is this reason that, throughout all of the threads I have seen with this cyoa, Gluttony has not only not been chosen, but also explicitly stated to be one of the worst options available. Perhaps we could get some kind of rework, but that would require the Original Creator's approval.

>>46880683
What's with this autistic outburst? The author just said that virtues are meant to be high risk, high reward, while the sins are much easier to gain power as.

>>46880678
The idea is that Yahweh, before he had his own religion, used to be the war god of a pantheon, and went by the name of "Tetragrammaton" or something like that. Then he told his worshippers to turn against their brothers while he turned against his, and he won, before declaring that he wasn't doing this whole polytheism shit anymore and all you other gods can get fucked.

>>46880717
Ah, I see. Yeah, I'm familiar with the concept, the Tetra name just confused me. I was thinking brown pirates and colorful fish.