MTG Modern General

I'd like to discuss proxies and the best place to find tourny fooling real looking ones.

Anyone who pays straight up over 1k for a modern deck is a retard. Discuss.

>>46866355
How long until people realize vision isn't that good in modern?

>>46866478
It's very nice in the slower matchups, but the metagame really isn't all that slow right now. It could maybe slot well in the sideboard for these matchups, but your sideboard should have more "Game Over" cards than good cards. AV is weird.

>>46866419
I play with real cards and didn't spend over 1k on a deck. fight me.

>>46866478
Hopefully soon. I was putting of buying a playset for casual and deeply regret it. Modern is just too damn fast right now.

>>46866355
I think grixis is the best control color scheme in modern. I think a density of cheap threats is needed. Angler is best.

>>46866478
I think it's final form will be as either a 2-of in some controlling decks as lategame fuel, or as a 3-4 of in sideboards for control mirror-busters.

Friendly reminder, don't post in here unless you have at least 700 dollars invested in your deck.

You are shit otherwise.

>>46866784
>being this much of an assblasted casual

How's that cleric tribal deck coming along?

>>46866784
jealous poorfag detected.

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>>46866355
>What is your opinion on Grixis? What Grixis creaturebase is the most potent in the current metagame and why?
Grixis is really good right now. Tons of removal for the aggro matchups, good value engines for the fair matchups and nice options for the combo matchups.

I've seen a list with 4 Snapcasters, 3 Dark-Dwellers, 2 Kalitas and 1 Tasigur and it's pretty darn tough when they're paired with the goodstuff draws like Kommand. Lack of Flip-Jace is unfortunate because the card is pretty fun, but I can understand its omission. It's probably a little too slow with 4 AV.

>>46867030
>>46867044
>you need to have money to post here
>HAHA LOOK AT THIS POORFAG

I'm sorry but what

>>46866784
what if it's like 5Gs spread around a few decks?

>>46867130
The only reason someone would care about how much money other people spent on decks is if they lose a lot to decks far out of their paltry price range. Because, you know, they're poor. Like you.

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>>46866355
Thanks for the fuel.

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>>46866355
>>What is your opinion on Grixis? What Grixis creaturebase is the most potent in the current metagame and why?
Grixis Control like Chapin built it is a powerful midrange/control deck that is at its best against aggro decks which are weak to spot removal (infect, delver, affinity) and slower combo decks (ad naus, turns). It has the power to grind over BGx and Company decks, but most of its card advatage comes from the graveyard, so it can be shut down by an unanswered Scavenging Ooze.

"Blue Jund" Grixis with Vryn's Prodigy and no counterspells is just that - a bad knock off of real Jund which no one should really be playing.

Something like:
4 Snapcaster
(4 Tar Pit)
3 Angler
2 Tasigur
1 Kalitas
With a Kalitas and a Grave Titan in the side
Is what I would run in Grixis Control.

>>46866784

I blew the shit out of my FNM with a $70 deck. I was murking $1000 decks every other game. It's how your deck is constructed and how good of a player you are. Sideboarding also helps a lot.

>>46867306
m8 I'm not even the same guy, I'm just saying the response was strange.

>The only reason someone would care about how much money other people spent on decks is if they lose a lot to decks far out of their paltry price range. Because, you know, they're poor.

I can state another reason: don't talk about your budget deck. It means you don't know much about the competitive aspect of the format (and the metagame).

I will no longer reply to your posts because the conversation is over.

PS: My Tarmogoyfs laughed at your post.

post realistic proxies. and where I can get them

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>>46867705

>yfw everyone keeps using 30 cent cards to destroy your tarmos

>>46867705

You can easily use budget decks and beat the supremely overused shit like Jund, Grixis, Affinity. Eldrazi is probably the one that will give budget decks the hardest time, even with Ugin gone.

fuck twentysided store

>>46866355

I'm gonna cast tooth & nail and cheat in Painter's Servant and Iona, Shield of Emeria.....yeah screw this format. Modern really IS dead! Wooooo!

>>46868100

Tooth and Nail shitbrews still exist?

>>46867705
clearly a buttmad poorfag. show me your playset of tarmos and I'll show you my legacy Doomsday deck with a playset of LEDs and ACTUAL FACTUAL DUALS you could never afford.

>>46868347
They're good at the casual FNM level because other shit brews with limited interaction get BTFO by turn 4 entwined tooth and nail

>>46867786
>tfw my Ajani's Pridemate eats Tarmogoyf alive

Even if I lose the game, it always feels good to destroy an expensive card like that with a 50 cent uncommon.

>>46867548
What's the list? this is now Budget Modern General. I've been doing pretty well on MTGO with a budget Blue Tron list. I play Scuttling Doom Engine instead of Wurmcoil, no Ugin, Perilous Vault instead of O-Stone, and an extra Platinum Angel to try to compensate for my tiny penis. I did drop the dough for Remands because they're integral. But everything else is < 2 tix per card. Whole thing was probably 50 tix tops. I should probably grab Wurms and Ugin since they've come down a bit lately and I could probably afford 15 bucks of cards.

>>46867753
Trying to find out more about this. Need to dig a lot.

>>46868620
Also I just realized I'm not playing thirst for knowledge what the fuck am i doing with my life

>>46868407
>I bet I spent more money on artificially rare cards than you did!

This is MTG in a nutshell.

>>46868682
I ain't denying that

>>46868636
>>46867753

Sorry bruh, the ship has sailed. The best you're going to get is Stoneman and Vhila Xhang on aliexpress, and it's a 50/50 split on viable proxies and shit you throw in EDH/cube

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>>46868407
You made me break my promise, but sure I like Doomsday.

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>>46869121
sorry mate, couldn't find a pick of the doomsday deck on my compute and I don't have the deck with me right now, so have a pic of my No-Land Belcher deck that has the LEDs in it, to at least prove I have those.

>>46869252
lmao look at this budget ass deck what a loser

>>46866784
I play mono red burn with a foil jap goyf in the sb so eat a bag of dicks faggot

>>46869318
Kek I bet those LED aren't even real.

>>46869591
Mono red Burn huh. Wow. Powerful deck. Places all the time. LOL. Even Goblins has been doing better than Mono Burn. What a loser.

>>46869591
>Mono-red burn
>Foil Goyf

Do you...do you just run it to bring it into the mainboard and show a Jund player your foil goyf when they Inquisition you?

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Does Jund keep this hand against an unknown opponent?

>>46869842
No. How do you beat Affinity/Burn/Infect's speed and power? How do you beat Jund's T1 discard and overall powerful creatures and answers? What about Grixis? And Abzan Company?

Hand cannot be kept.

>>46869842
>no hand disruption
>6 lands
the fuck are you on

>>46869951
two of those lands are spells though

>>46869951
both ghost quarter and raging ravine are awful in the first 4 turns, stop being bad.

>>46866419
http://www.gatheringhouse.imgur.com
I haven't gotten a chance to order their new stuff yet. I am thinking about ordering some of their new stuff. Their fetch and shock lands are very real looking. Avoid getting the old batch and get only the new stuff. Goyf looks ok at a distance but you need to double sleeve these things. They feel like a poker card. I heard that you can use steam to remove the weird layer.

>>46869982
>two of those lands are spells

No, they are not. Ghost Quarter and a Manland do not equal spells.

>>46870030
>steam your cards

Go ahead anon, it'll work perfectly, I promise

>>46870030
you're better off just rubbing your greasy cheetos fingers on it and maybe run it over with your car so it looks older. Since you likely aren't going to be selling it if you're buying unconvincing fakes.

>>46870174
No one said anything about selling or being unconvincing friend.

>>46870301
All fakes are unconvincing

>>46870604
Oh you poor newfriend. Keep believing that.

>>46870678
Have fun with your Scalding,Tarns and T A R M O G O Y Fs friendo

>>46870720

It's fixed now. Tarmos are passable, but S c a l d i n g T a r n got fucked harder. None of the thoughtseizes are passable, way too purple.

The ONS fetches are fine. Lilys are forever fucked, since the chinks refuse to change the simple fix.

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Why are you alpha males paying money for fakes when you could just follow some beta neckbeard home and kill him and take his stuff? I mean if you are going to commit crime why pay money to do it? Or is that not "competitive" enough?

>>46871420
That comment is more wolf than frog. Of wait I see what you did there.

>>46866784
What if you built your deck back in early 2013 when modern merfolk only cost 200 bucks, and it just so happens that its 700 dollars now? my "investments" went up in value, does that count?

>>46871420
Killing someone is jail time. You can play off having fakes by saying you bought them on ebay and didn't know.

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Speaking of killing someone, what major crimes has anon performed against the magic community?

Ill start
>paid a guy to rob a lgs in cards in an area we didnt live he just asked to see folders then snatched them, he never played so we gave him all of the big casting cost jank and told him it was worth the most

>cracked the lock on some asian dudes locker at another lgs and took his legacy decks

>buying cards on ebay then reporting them as fake and sending the seller back chinaman proxies and getting our money back and keeping the cards

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>>46871420

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>>46872802
Seems legit :^)

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I'm making Naya Burn, why do the decks that splash green not use Scalding Tarn? It's much cheaper and I'm not complaining, but why would splashing green take out the Tarns and be better and cheaper?

>>46872802
That last one is pretty clever!

>>46868620
>tfw I beat Naya Aggro with a shitty U/R artifacts lacking the affinity essentials

>>46873377
Why would you use Tarn over Wooded Foothills, Windswept Heath, and Arid Mesa?

>>46873390
And way more illegal than the other two.

>>46873680
Because you have tarns leftover from a real deck

>>46867548
>mfw it turn out that most of magic players are just people who have money and copy the pros and they don't actually understand the thought process behind the decks they play or even know how to play them
Damn

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>>46867786
I have a feeling that Doom Blade and/or Ultimate Price could be a Modern Budget All-Star if people remembered they exists.

xmage, cockatrice or untap?

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Is Goblins/8 Whack worth even playing? Does anyone see Goblins becoming Tier 1 again ANY time soon?

SHOULD I INVEST IN GOBLINS OR BABY'S FIRST BURN (that will turn into Naya Burn) I'M POOR THANKS.

>>46869842
No plays for the first two turns and a turn 3 liliana as your first play ensures it's gonna do almost nothing. Nah.

>>46874941
>Is Goblins/8 Whack worth even playing?
There are other aggro decks which are simply better. Get burn if you absolutely can't afford anything else.

>>46874676
MTGO.

>>46871843
yes, because you just said you have a 700$ dollar deck.

>>46874676
>MTG Players
NO PROXIES NO FAKES UGHHHHH
>Digital fakes and clients
THIS IS SO FUN GUYS HAHAHA

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>mfw a kids card game costs $1000's
>mfw you could actually buy a real kid for that price
>mfw you could just play with the kid instead, you know like sexually, you could put his little dink in your mouth and say the alphabet
>mfw memedern is even gayer than this post

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biggest tits in modern?

>>46875125
It's 100% true. I don't even know why I come here. I have half a real life pauper deck and 3 or so on MTGO.

I keep waiting for that day when Modern won't cost thousands of dollars but it's never going to happen. I just wanted to play people in real life.

The pauper players here have banned Burn and any blue colored card.

>>46875143
How come her face is so gaunt, yet her rack is still so plump and juicy?

>>46875151
Why is pauper somehow the worst format of all time, but not for the reasons you think when you hear about it

>>46875184
mtg target demographic.

>>46875200
Dubs for truth.
Because the players are so cancer.

>>46875311
I don't read moonrunes, so can someone explain what the fuck is going on in this picture?

>>46875331
faggotry

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>>46875331
no idea, found it on pixiv.

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>mfw ill never have an affinity deck made entirely of mecha loli card alters

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>>46875535

Making a Modern Black-Aggro Control (i want it mono black)

ideas?

So far

2 Extirpate
2 Surgical Extraction
21 Swamp
4 Vampire Nighthawk
4 Phyrexian Obliterator
2 Lashwrithe
4 Liliana of the Veil
2 Thoughtseize
4 Victim of Night
4 Raven's Crime
4 Blackmail

>>46866478
it's good and control decks will want a playset. But you're still playing control in a metagame where burn affinity and infect are top tier

I'll be playing jeskai control even if it turns tier 3 so I really hope they go down in price a little bit.

>>46874610
They got restrictions that can potentially lose you the game. Catch all cards are infinitely better for a reason.

>>46875709
Keep lili and Thoughtseize, throw the rest in the trash and replace it with a jund deck

>>46867786
>>46868545

This kind of thinking is the epitome of the casual. There's nothing worse than having opponents continuously remark on how expensive cards you play are. I don't get salty if my deck gets beaten by a pile of commons. You either built a good deck, played better or it's variance.

In the last thread an Emerica list was posted, fucked up saving it... Anyone have it?

>>46876513
4 Nahiri
4 Detention Sphere
1 Emrakul

No more >memedern protours

RIP in piss shitty format

Ian Duke just announced that modern is going to be dropped as a PT format.

SELL NOW

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its dead why get into the format if the end goal is gps disgusting

Well, fuck.

>>46876605
Links?

Where were you when modern was saved?

modern is dead

>>46876648
http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/ptsoi/2016-and-2017-premier-play-updates-announced-at-ptsoi-2016-04-24

It's the right thing to do, WotC gets to plug the new set at every Pro Tour and there's less pressure to completely overhaul the format every year.

>>46876648
http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/ptsoi/where-modern-goes-from-here-2016-04-24

>>46876605

Good, it should. Modern is fucking cancerous. Blame the fucking secondary market and card hoarders for magic going to shit.

will card prices go down now?

>>46876679
>Pros bitching about muh appearance fees
>Modern finally removed from the PT

Today was a good day.

SELL SELL SELL

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How do counter dis

>>46866355
Isn't modern the worst format tho?

>>46876729

>playing that cancer

>>46876743
No, even during the Eldrazi Winter it wasn't the worst format. EDH has always been and will always be the worst format.

>>46876755

What am I supposed to play?

>>46876763
Magic.

>>46876763

Real magic or if you insist on playing a computer TCG then play Hex, Hearthstone, or even Pokemon TCGO

>>46871420
Using fake cards is literally not a crime, in any country.

>>46876770
>>46876772

I don't have any magic community where I live and I want to play Magic.

What's wrong with duels?

>>46876787
I'm in much the same situation as you bro

it's bad, watered down shit
literally all the worst cards.

>>46876824

You mean worst as in quality or from a balance viewpoint?

>>46876679
>>46876687
So is this the death of the format?

>>46876835
Both.

>>46876843
No, this is going to be good for the format.

>>46876843
No. But that won't stop us from saying so.

>>46876824
Aren't there free programs? xmage or Cockatrice and stuff?

>>46876859
How so?

Guys if I use colorless lands, can I use land cards like evolving wilds to pick them? Also does the mana from things like rogue's passage and foundry of the consuls count?

>>46876889
There's less pressure on WotC to make significant changes to the B&R list every year to make for an interesting PT. It means that the format should be more stable and the only cards likely to get banned now are the truly degenerate ones rather than there being bannings "in the interest of diversity".

>>46876902
Evolving Wilds only searches for basic lands, so it can be used to find a copy of Wastes. Rogue's Passage and Foundry of the Consoles do tap for colourless mana and can be used to cast spells like Thought-Knot Seer,

>>46876902
All lands (aside from dryad arbor) are colourless. Which ones are you talking about?

If you mean ones that just produce colourless, you can only fetch them if they meet the requirements. So for evolving wilds it needs to be a basic land, so basically wastes would be your option.

>>46876902
This is really easy to google.

>>46876835
worst as in, for example, they put 24 auras in the game, and 3 aura removal.
there are 2 unique cards that have board wipe i could go on.

I will say they didn't jew out and make the grind unbearable, I think you can get a booster in 3-4 games, 6 card boosters, but still, it's not unreasonable to unlock most of the cards in 100 hours or so.

>>46876863
there are.
I started downloading card art for xmage about 2 hours ago unrelated to this so i dunno how it is yet.

>>46876889
prices for competive decks will go down as people sell, anticipating the price crash and making over supply.

if you ever wanted to buy a competive modern deck, wait a week or two.
if you brought a competive modern deck, sell before everyone hears the news.

>>46876937
the closer to the internet the question, the further from google people go.

>>46876938

>worst as in, for example, they put 24 auras in the game, and 3 aura removal.
>there are 2 unique cards that have board wipe i could go on.

Can you explain why these are bad?

>>46876938
There's not going to be a price crash because of this announcement. If anything, there are going to fewer price fluctuations because people won't be rushing to buy into new modern cards/decks that show up at the Pro Tour and less erratic bannings mean that established archetypes are less likely to get banned and cause crashes.

>>46876919
>>46876938
Does this mean that there won't be any big Modern events anymore? Sorry for the questions, fell out of magic for a bit and I've recently been wanting to get back into it.

>>46876687
>Consist of cards that we are willing and able to reprint
lol

>>46876983
grand prix only from the sounds of it.

>>46876983
The biggest modern events now are going to be GPs and SCG events. Modern will still be played at the World Championships and the World Magic Cup.

>>46876962
I made a mistake, magic duels is great, you should head back and play it.

>>46876997

Eh?

>>46876991
>>46876995
Cool, thanks guys.

>>46874561
Where I play, it's just like that, that's why I lend my modern fog deck to friends wheb they want to get easy prizes

>>46877052
It is easy to spike the more casual tournaments with brews, people don't have a sideboard plan for you and aren't good enough to come up with one on the fly.

are basic lands from old sets playable in modern?
technically i mean, who is really going to care in practice?

>>46877002
Shut up Timmy, just buy MaRo's game. :^)

>>46877114
Basic lands are basic lands. They're all the same.

>>46877074
Couldn't have said it better. Tarmos and Tasigurs are dead weight if you can't deal damage and you have no means (Wether it is sb cards or imagination) to deal with it

>>46877129
his name is billy.
and he has to ask his parents first.

>>46877136
but the old ones have cool sideways 'T's instead of tap arrows.

>>46877191
I mean yeah you can use them as long as it says it's a basic land. The only exception is Snow-covered Basics. They're different than normal basics.

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>>46866419
i make my own with the transparency method

i will try now to make original ones just for my personal use and hope it looks legit just to wipe everybodys ass in the mtg store near my house

>>46877275
Those look fancy

fucking beggar is going to win PT SOI

rip modern

>>46877300
yeah, they do
but letters and thin black lines are not very well defined, like fuzzy. Thats a printing issue and only WOTC can do it right (obviously). But I think that if you have them in sleeves nobody will notice

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So i guess FNM *is* the top tier for "competitive" formats like memedern now

HOL UP

Does this mean even more cards will be unbanned?

>>46877661
Simple rule - if you can haul back home more than you paid for entry, it's competitive. I'm pretty sure FNM meets the criteria.

Guess I'm done with Modern now.

It was a little too good to be true that they'd have a popular format with a large card pool of fun interesting cards without supporting their greedy quarterly releases.

I hope they realize how bad this looks for Eternal Masters.

I'm not even sure what format I will play now if any. I may just sell my collection before it tanks and stick to limited.

>>46877989
Drafts will always be fun, no matter what WotC does

>>46875719

Over 200 what?

So how easy is it to convert a Modern Affinity deck into Legacy?

Is it just basically the same deck but with the planechase/mirrodin artifact lands or what?

>>46866355
>>What is your opinion on Grixis? What Grixis creaturebase is the most potent in the current metagame and why?
Don't play Jace, Vryn's Prodigy or Thing in the Ice. Jace is a trap that warps your deck into a shitty Jund deck. TITI is too high variance.

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>>46876687

>Modern should: Consist of cards that we are willing and able to reprint

You piece of shit, give us the fucking Innistrad reprints, then. Or does that mean you're banning everything considered too strong for standard?

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>>46878207
Does WotC hear our prayers? Or Star of David Games' voice is too strong for our words to be heard?

When will the secondary market die?

>>46876605
Good
o
o
d

>>46876605
Nice. Maybe this'll get modern general to be less shit.

>>46878207
>unironically wanting to play this shit format

Shaking my head, desu.

>>46878405
They're not gonna leave their shit format. They've invested way too much into it.

>>46877235
Snow-covered basics are still legal in modern though, just saying.

>it's good and control decks will want a playset
I'm not so sure about this. I tested it in Esper Control and found it to be too clunky and vulnerable conpared to Think Twice, and while UWR does want some copies, I'd say 3 is a safer number than 4.

>>46878152
Are you currently considering building modern affinity?
Also there's different legacy types, like an aggro affinity, tezzorator and metalworker

>>46878785
I built modern affinity a copule years ago, when many of the cards were much cheaper (got Ravager for $10 each).

I was interested in turning it into a legacy deck since Modern is shit, and it'll probably be easier and cheaper to make a few changes to a deck I already have than to build a whole new deck.

As for types, I suppose I'd prefer to go for whichever one is closest to modern affinity. I did pick up a set of Tezz before the unbanning, so I might be able to do that too.

>Decide to get into Modern
>Get 50 bucks in and hear the news
Looks like I'm going to Pauper.

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Out of curiosity. If I were to say get my fake tundras altered. How in the honest to God fuck would anyone ever know?

>>46879358
They'll still have every event except PT's.
Good luck even finding a local for Pauper.

>>46879358
>implying you would ever go to a PT anyway
It means nothing for you anon.

>>46879460
But now how is he supposed to go 0-3 at a Modern PPTQ

Dear God please let price drops or fakes get better.

I ordered from the "best" Chinese fake makers and one is hilariously all dark black core paper, and the other looks hilariously thin with errors all over and wrong tap symbols.

Should I wait on buying the more expensive cards? I was buying the staples of the deck first.

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>>46866355
It's extremely hard to evaluate the best creature base.

1 drops: Grim Lavamancer
2 drops: Jace, Snapcaster Mage, Young Pyromancer, Thing in the Ice, Dark Confidant
3 drops: Vendilion Clique
4 drops: Pia and Kiran Nalaar
5 drops: Goblin Dark-Dwellers
6 drops: Tasigur, the Golden Fang
7 drops: Gurmag Angler

Guys

>>46866355
>Please do not discuss counterfeits in this thread, it deserves a seperate thread

There even is one.

>>46866570
>>46866570

>>46879760
Neat.

Hey guys where can I buy the best fakes for Modern ?

Thanks!

>>46877235
snow covered basics are basic lands. they are just covered in snow. they count as basics and can do anything basics can do. the only difference is that they have snow on them.

>>46879799
kek

What are the chances of more unbans if modern is no longer a pro tour format? Isn't that the reason cards like pod and twin got the ax in the first place?

>>46880290
They are higher. They used to fear unbans because it could ruin the Pro Tour. Now this problem only exists in GPs and stuff. While they will still be scared, the unban chance is higher.

>>46880417
Maybe Jace and blood braid, and more will finally get unbanned.

>>46880620
Or at least unban twin, because seriously what the fuck was that.

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>>46880964

>>46881056
Just prior to the ban twin was below it's highest point (which was a couple years earlier) and even a few points below affinity.

Not to mention it removed the three decks most likely to have helped against eldrazi; bloom, twin, jund.

>>46879436
The back is still going to feel off likely, but sleeved up there's not a chance in the world someone could point it out. Excuse me while I never buy altered art cards again.

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How bad would it be to run 4 mainboard molten rains in burn?

>>46881679
No bueno. But if you're looking to fill out a deck then there are worse choices.

>>46881679
If you plan to see 3 land drops regularly in burn then you're playing it wrong.

So, with the changes in Pro tour, taking away the modern format from it, will the price of modern staples lower a bit?

>>46881784
Not really. Most magic players don't actually go to PTs

>>46881773
3 land drops is ideal with the amount of 2cmc to 1cmc spells

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>>46867786
>playing against bant coco
>With budget b/w token
>doom blading goyfs left and right

>>46881679
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/404561#online
this guy 5-0'd a modern league playing mono red with 4 molten rains so sure, why not.

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>>46875719
>not saving fullres

>>46882118
>no tattoos
>dat belly tho

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>>46882142
Modern needs more playable waifus, like 3-drop BW Elsepth Returned

>>46880964
It was a odd decision. However without twin in the format they were probably more willing to unban blue cards like visions and sword (I know its not blue per SE, but the combo is). All I hope for is pod to be unbanned. Pod, Jace, and BBE would make modern great.

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>>46882268

I hope we go back to Kamigawa soon and my waifu gets printed in a less shitty card.

>>46866478
until more people start playing the dangerous zoo type decks

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>>46882897
Champions/Betrayers/Saviors was over 1000 years ago. She's dead, m8.

>>46882897
yiff in hell, furfag

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>>46882948

N-no. She'll be back, I tell you.

>>46879436
I thought the alter on left doesn't pass tournament play.

>>46883559
>name visible
>(absence of) mana cost visible
>card type(s) visible
>card rules visible
I think it should be good.

>>46883598
>>46883559
>border covered
Nope. get fucked

>>46883598
>>46883559
yeah I'm pretty sure you only need the name visible since that's all it needs to be uniquely identified. maybe the mana cost too just to be safe. As long as it feels no different from a normal card in a sleeve, its not an issue.

>>46883727
>>46883635
>>46883598

official rules: Artistic modifications are acceptable in sanctioned tournaments, provided that the modifications do not make the card art unrecognizable, contain substantial strategic advice, or contain offensive images. Artistic modifications also may not obstruct or change the mana cost or name of the card.

The Head Judge is the final authority on acceptable cards for a tournament.

>>46868620

Sorry this is late. It also isn't going to be 100% accurate since I upgraded the deck this week.

I was running monoblack control infect.

Creatures
Phyrexian Crusader x4
Phyrexian Vatmother x3

Spells
Wrench Mind x3
Raven's Crime x4
Funeral Charm x4
Vampire's Bite x2
Inquisition of Kozilek x1
Duress x3
Despise x2
Dismember x4
Despise x2

Artifacts
Runechanter's Pike x2
Pithing Needle x2

Land
Dakmor Salvage x2
Swamp x22

My sideboard was legitimately turning my deck into 8rack against virtually unwinnable matchups like Bloodghast vampires + relic to progenitus.

I'VE LITERALLY HAD HEAD JUDGES
WHO TOLD ME THAT MY ENTIRE DECK HAS TO BE EITHER NOT DOUBLE SLEEVED, OR DOUBLE SLEEVED
BECAUSE EVIDENTLY I CAN FEEL THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO WHILE SHUFFLING OR SOME RETARDED SHIT
AND YOU FUCKS ARE TELLING ME YOU GET AWAY WITH PLAYING WITH CARDS WITH LITERAL FUCKING LAYER OF FUCKSHIT PAINT ON THEM AT TOURNAMENTS?

>>46883930

Oh yeah I was running a 3x Devour Flesh, 1x Doom Blade, 2x Victim of the Night too. No idea how they fit in with the earlier list to get it to 60.

>>46883937
>I'VE LITERALLY HAD HEAD JUDGES
>WHO TOLD ME THAT MY ENTIRE DECK HAS TO BE EITHER NOT DOUBLE SLEEVED, OR DOUBLE SLEEVED
>BECAUSE EVIDENTLY I CAN FEEL THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO WHILE SHUFFLING OR SOME RETARDED SHIT
It's actually visible which cards are double sleeved and which aren't when stacked.

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>>46879436
>ruining a $200+ land
what the FUCK are you doing?

>>46884006
ok so i have indeed heard the same from a few different people, so i've had them try to figure out which ones are which in one of my partially double sleeved decks. nobody has been able to do it at all. which makes sense to me because i have literally no idea how you are supposed to be able to see, visually, in a stacked deck one card being a tiny bit thicker.

>modern

you are the cancer killing magic

>>46883769
>or contain offensive images

So can I get ponyfags disqualified if I claim their alters and sleeves are offensive as I identify as a ponykin and feel they are mocking me?

>>46884037

Can you fucking read?

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u rike?

>>46884190

What is this deck even trying to accomplish? Be a shit brew Blue Moon deck? I can't honestly tell.

>buy a lotto ticket (MM15 pack)
>crack remand, foil remand, Karn
>Post on kikebook if anyone's interested in them
>The two trade sharks in the group say yes
>I ask if they're actually going to play them
>They get assblasted that I'd rather trade the card to someone actually going to use it

>>46884250
It's a tempo deck with a really powerful draw engine. What you're doing is landing a creature and disrupting their plan and protecting your guy(s) with cheap spells. Not that complicated.

>>46884302
Folds to burn/10

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How do you guys think a deck like this would fare in the current meta?

Death and Taxes:

Creatures: 28
4 Dryad Militant
4 Leonin Arbiter
4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
3 Serra Avenger
1 Spellskite
1 Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit
4 Flickerwisp
4 Blade Splicer
2 Aven Mindcensor
1 Mirran Crusader

Other Spells: 9
4 Aether Vial
4 Path to Exile
1 Dismember

Lands: 23
4 Ghost Quarter
2 Tectonic Edge
1 Mutavault
1 Eiganjo Castle
15 Plains

Sideboard: 15
3 Burrenton Forge Tender
2 Sunlance
2 Stony Silence
2 Rest in Peace
2 Ethersworn Canonist
1 Disenchant
1 Spellskite
1 Mark of Asylum
1 Mirran Crusader

>>46884633
Has some game vs Tron with an above average draw, folds to everything else.

>>46883930
that's a spicy meat-a-ball

>>46884633
it's shit.

>>46884072
no i think the judge will see through your...uh...horseshit.

>>46884006
Remember, the judge program is mostly a player-regulated program where its members and recruiters are players themselves. Only at the highest levels is there actual accountability by someone who knows what the fuck they're talking about at Wizards. Lower level judges can be as stupid and retarded as your regular player - just because they passed a test doesn't mean they are capable of being unbiased.

I'm not bashing on judges for not being infallible; they're human too. But the point is that at a lower level they are held to no fucking standards at all - so you get what you get with any group of people.

Judges are not sports referees; kid league referees have to know how to fucking run and play the game - judges don't need to be fucking good at all. Does that make sense? There's knowing the rules; and there's knowing how to play the game.

>>46884859
How do you become a judge? Do you need to pass a skill exam or something, or just randomly pay money, read a book, and pass some shitty multiple choice test?

>>46884633
I've been playing a B/W Deadguy brew that's some blend between D&T and tokens and it's been doing okay

>>46884859
>>46885014
The judge exam actually requires a fairly thorough knowledge of the game rules and interactions. I took the online practice L1 exam and passed, but barely. I got all the rules questions correct, but policy and procedure questions (like how to handle a draw during a single round elimination event, or what type of offense is calling your opponent a faggot and what punitive action is taken) are things I'm not terribly familiar with.

But I've also seen judges make terrible fucking calls. Sometimes they get stretched thin at events and have to run around and quickly resolve issues in multiple games and sometimes give an answer without fully understanding the situation.

TI actually become a judge, you have to take an in person pen and paper exam administered by a level 2 judge. It's a bit of a pain in the ass to schedule and if you don't pass I think there's a cool-down period before you can try to take it again.

>>46884190
oran-rief, the vastwood seems like it would be good.

not a big fan of time warp and 4 vapor snags

could use a 1 cmc cantrip

So I have bogles goblins and Naya burn, what could I build semi cheaply that isn't just babbys first aggro deck

WotC has officially abandoned Modern.

Welcome to Pauper status.

>>46885685
u mean the pros are now pauper teir

>>46885685
This is the best thing that could happen to modern.
Fuck off with your negativity

Would B/G be a good choice for a new player?

I really like the Golgari, but I feel like mixing colours might be too complex for me right now, while I'm still learning the ropes.

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>>46875143

I've yet to see bigger than this in any format.

>>46886079
B/G is the most expensive deck type in Modern.
It's fucking great and easy to get the hang of for anybody, but it costs like $2,000

>>46886201

Motherfucker.

Everything I love must be prohibitively expensive.

>>46884037
You can get a tundra for $100-150

DIDN'T YOU NERDS HEAR?

MEMEDERN IS DEAD

Anyone else selling out of Modern?

Why would I play in a format that Wizards doesn't even recognize as competitive?

I have no problem playing it online on cockatrice, but I sure as fuck am not playing physical when the company shits on its players.

What's with all these people saying Modern is dead?
It's not like anyone here was ever going to make it to protour

>>46886288
Lets look at other formats in terms of amount of attention from wizards and overall health of the format

Standard: most attention, least diverse/interesting

Vintage: went years without attention, format, remained diverse. Format started to get more coverage, 2 restrictions later there is only one deck.

Legacy: minimal bans, minimal attention, most diverse and most fun.

Then modern: wizards has been constantly meddling with it, each time making the format less diverse and less interesting.

So does less attention from wizards spell the end of the format? Or could it mean that Modern might finally get good?

>>46886454

>Legacy
>most diverse

There are two decks: ones that run Force of Will and ones designed to work around them.

>>46886362
>>46886395
>>46886454

>DESPERATE DELUSIONAL MEMEDERN DORKS

WAAAAAH I SPENT SO MUCH MONEY ON MY TARMOGOYFS AND THOPTER FOUNDRIES Y U DO DIS WIZARDS?

>>46886586
Are you a functional member of society?

You honestly seem off, a little bizarre even.

>>46886731
I functioned all over your mom's face last night nerd

>>46886753
You know being on 4chan doesn't make it okay or cool to act retarded?

I'm just trying to tell you that no one in the thread is going to read your post and be offended, they're just going to think you're weird, it's better to just stop.

>>46886493
Nic fit, 12 post, eldrazi, aluren, maverick, aggro loam and lands all neither play nor care about force.

Are you trying to say that there are combo decks and decks that try to beat combo decks? Because that can be said of any format with combo decks in it.

>>46886079
Look up Jund and revel in the greatness. As a new player you might as well invest in a deck that is basically BGR Staples: The Deck aka Old Faithful aka Pretty Much Never Bad. Tarmogoyf is pretty much an auto-include in most decks running green creatures. Liliana is huge in a lot of lists running black. You'll also have most of the pieces to build Abzan (BGW). You get a lot of premium removal like Bolt, which is auto-4 in most red decks, Terminate, Abrupt Decay, Damnation, Thoughtsieze, and so on. Lots of cards that can be used to build multiple decks.

So, say you invest about $1200-1500 on building Jund. This is a pretty daunting amount but it gives you a very, very solid foundation in the game. You can build quite a few decks at a significant discount due to how ubiquitous Jund cards are.

Not only that, but since Jund is such a powerful and efficient deck, a beginner can have success while learning to play optimally. Jund has a very high skill ceiling, so you'll always feel like you're getting better and better the more you play. It's a great deck to learn the ropes with for this reason alone. You'll get better at value assessment, board control, applying pressure, and lots of other more advanced game concepts through practice.

>>46886837
He thinks he's on /b/

Is this legit?
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-u-25919#paper

>>46887368
You could 5-0 a daily with 60 basic Islands, so probably.

>>46887180
I do fully agree with you that Jund is a great deck. I've had it built for nearly two years now and never felt like building anything else.
Problem with it is Burn is a bitch of a match up and pretty much every new or bad player's go-to deck. You run into it a lot.
Same applies for Tron. It's a brain-dead deck that was running rampant before Eldrazi happened.

>>46887465
don't downplay it, it's at least comparable to a win in a big FNM

>>46886923
Forgot DnT too.

I like the amount of brewing people are doing right now. Just went 3-1 at the LGS - my matches were against
- BuG control with Thing in the Ice (meh). It's best trick was using 3x darkblast in the side to kill off literally everything in my deck except etched champion and master, which in turn feuled tasigur.
- Bogles with ghostly prison in the main which fucked me over. 2-1 against him. Silhana Ledgewalker is good.
- Infect - pretty bog standard.
- BUG dredge - with ancestral visions, that 3/3 for 3 zombie from SoI - and the Gitrog Monster. 2/0'd him but the matches were really close. I told him I liked his build.

Feels wayyyyy fresher than when eldrazi was legal.

>>46886923
Aluren usually plays force. But I get your point.

>>46887952
last time I went to my LGS for a modern tournament I brought Memeskai Ascendancy, and played against a 4c zubera Rally deck (california zuberally), mono-white enchantment prison, RG eldrazi beats, and burn. 4-0. felt good to get some variery.

>>46887368
holy fuck that deck is amazing

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I'm really loving the Nissa, Voice of Zendikar + Gideon, Ally of Zendikar synergy that won the Standard pro-tour today.

So considering I'm a more casual player who occasionally goes to FNM at 2 nearby lgs just for fun,do you guys think that the "combo" could work in Modern if I'm not planning on 4-0ing every event?
I'm thinking of putting both into my wilt-leaf abzan deck since its "go wide with lingering souls and pump them up with gavony and wilt-leaf" strategy has been quite successful for me.

>>46875879
Ah but it just feels so good beating this one faggot's foiled out jund deck with proxied skred red.

>>46888459
>casual scum
REEEEEEEEE

>>46887969
1-2 off the board doesn't make it a force deck to be. I think force is pretty bad in Aluren honestly. If you run the full 4, you only have a virtual blue count of 16. (Pitching cavern harpy/dream stalker to force doesn't really count)

>>46888459
WB tokens is a thing in modern, not sure if you could get away with WG and keep the potency, maybe try abzan?

>>46888519
Why? He doesn't think about you at all.

>>46888459
The problem is that Gavony Township and possibly Kessig just does the job netter without relying on easily smashed permanents.

Should I even bother building Naya Burn or any modern deck now? PT is getting fucked even on the standard side. I think they want everyone on MTGO with some new client.

>>46889685
Makes me wonder how jelly WotC is about Hearthstone and all the money it must be generating for Blizzard.

>>46877275
I never realized before how much the new Confidant looks like Max Landis.

>>46889685
The PT was literally the thing killing Modern and facilitating everything wrong with the format, I have no idea why you people think that the format is going to take a hit from this.

If anything, it will be like Legacy, the best format.

>>46889685
it's really really weird. What do they expect players to aspire to? Why should anybody go to GP's and PPTQ's and PTQ's anymore? What incentive is there to play at anything above LGS weekly's now?

>>46875879
>see a cool brew or tier two deck just waiting for improvement
>hey you should put snapcaster/ tarmo/ lili/ cryptic/ bob/ collected company etc. in that. it would be great!
>"i cant afford it"
>oh

I keep suggesting baller staples to people, completely oblivious to their financial situation. Most of them are still the $5-25 card I bought so long ago in my mind. Then I get reality checked and its a bit jarring.

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>>46890007

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Would pic-related fix Modern forever?

>>46890075
>What do they expect players to aspire to?
Nothing.

That's the point. They want players to join the game, get most of their money in their most ignorant years early in their Magic career and don't care once they hit their "entertainment" peak because at that point they can't make money off them anymore because at that point they're no longer buying sealed product and hopefully they quit playing.

Let me tell you what the upside of having players quit and not sticking around long-term. It means they will not be around to transmit their knowledge to new players - "don't buy sealed product", "buy singles", "that card sucks, they printed a better one before". All of those things are negative to sales to new players; the faster a new player figures out not to buy fucking booster boxes to open, the less money Wizards makes. And the more shit-talk they hear from experienced players about new cards, the faster they lose the sense of surprise and excitement for new sets, thus causing Wizards losses in sales.

Can you imagine some new player sees Vryn Wingmare and some person there says, "Thalia was better" and some guy says, "No, Thorn of Amethyst was better" and then some OTHER guy says, "Sphere of Resistance was better". Wizards just spent all this time printing this (garbage) thing that is exciting to a new player and all the experienced players are shitting on it, thus denying them "hype" dollars.

Wizards is trying to get experienced players out of the game because they damage the amount of money it can get out of new players. It's a legit strategy if not a fucked up one.

>>46875143
they're why you get two tokens. one for each tit.

>>46890246
it's not a legit strategy, you are a madman

killing the community kills the game. in all circumstances.
if they were operating like you said they are, then bringing out new expansion blocks is pointless, the entire reason wizards needs to keep advancing new sets and rotations is specifically to keep veterans around and interested.
if the entirety of the community consisted of new players that attrite away within a year there would be no reason to operate like they are, and the only veteran players would be the LGS owners.

>>46889774
HS works because there is no secondary market and you can still buy "product" from release day to use in your decks, Bluz didnt have to cater to manchildren who wanted to protect their "investment" by making a reserved list, magic is a hobby for rich people or people who have been playing for 20 years, HS will always be accessible for new players

>>46890424
He's not wrong. However they do keep the old players around. That's what the non-rotating formats are for. Old players frequently bring in new blood.

>>46890424
They only really need to keep a player around long enough for 1 standard rotation and then a little bit after that.
>Ooh this game magic looks so fun
>I'm going to buy some intro decks and teach all my friends how to play (this is literally how I got into mtg)
>Wow these new sets look cool! I can't wait to put them into my new standard deck.
>ohh all my favorite cards aren't standard legal any more. At least I can play them in modern. I should buy up some Modern Masters. Maybe that will get a good card foundation for the format.
and at that point they've already sunk hundreds of dollars. Wizards can now dump you off like a sack of unwanted kittens.

>>46890424
Communities are already falling apart because old player grognards are scaring away the new blood with their aggressive or overwhelming knowledge of the game.

And you are misunderstanding what I consider the "lifespan" of a new player. You can milk a new player for between 4-8 years. The new player drops off after they finish grade-school and if they continue they'll drop off after they're done college. What you don't want is outside factors like the impact of veteran players, inhibiting that "new player" lifespan.

A community of wide-eyed players who are impressed at every new set and not stressed over every nuance of what came before is way easier to profit off of than a community infested by experienced players .

You're still going to have die-hard experienced players. Some experienced players will constantly buy boxes to crack; I'm not talking about these sorts of players. I'm talking about try-hard pro players who always play the best decks year after year playing Modern and playing tuned up EDH decks making Wizards' commander product look like garbage (which it is). What Wizards wants is these players with the bad-ass commander decks fucking getting out of the store so their new players can buy the pre-cons, have fun, and buy the next ones instead of having the pre-cons get fucking stomped into the ground by an experienced player's deck.

>>46889774
>players tell them for years it's time to make a good MTGO
>they don't listen
>Blizzard makes one with their own brand
>Wizards goes in denial mode "they are not competitors"
>Blizzard makes a fuckton of money
>Wizards makes none and even loses players to Hearthstone

They had nobody to blame but themselves. They're a fucking bad company. They do good with game design but that's it.

>>46890561
This is true

This is also why i bring decks of varying power to the lgs, do i care if i ass pound a 12yo turn 3 with my t1 deck?, not really, ill probably play some janky tribal shit and have fun you know cos its like its a game or something

>>46890572
>They do good with game design

Considering how often they fuck up, I'm not so sure about that.

it's 2016

MTG will move primarily to digital formats in 10 years or it will be dead in 10 years.

it's the way shit is now

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I know its total garbage but it seems like fun. Any suggestions for improvements? Also I am still figuring out the land base. It will most likely just end up being fetchlands.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/blasphemous-soulfire-1/

Creature (14)
2x Boros Reckoner
2x Hornet Nest
4x Kor Firewalker
4x Soulfire Grand Master
2x Swans of Bryn Argoll

Instant (14)
4x Lightning Bolt
4x Lightning Helix
3x Searing Blaze
3x Searing Blood

Sorcery (8)
4x Blasphemous Act
4x Lingering Souls

Land (4)
4x Forbidden Orchard

>>46890685
It's only a fuck up if experienced players are around to point it out.

If experienced players are not around, new players can ignorantly go about playing the game doing whatever and buying more product to tune up their decks.

Name any Magic fuck up and consider whether any new player would care or even know about it if wannabe pro players at stores who follow the real pros didn't point it out.

Would new players think to play something that looks as boring as Bloodbraid Elf? New players would know to fetch swords and Batterskull with Stoneforge Mystic, but they wouldn't know to play a fucking 1/1 bird with it. Do you think new players would use Primeval Titan to get Valakut?

The answer is "NO" to all those things. The new player is playing a "shard" instead of Bloodbraid Elf; the new player is playing Infect or Allies instead of summoning Prime Time or Jace, Mind Sculptor.

The new player in any generation would not be playing fucking Siege Rhino; and if they were they would also be playing Abzan Charm and Abzan Ascendancy in the same deck.

Wizards does absolutely NOTHING wrong to a certain audience. I want you to contemplate that. They only fuck up when the educated and experienced point it out - if they're not around to point it out, everyone is more happy for it eating their shit salad. Apply this principle to every fuck-up you are aware of in other parts of life.

>>4689068
Shards was great.
Zendikar was great.
Scars was good (New Phyrexia was great).
Innistrad was outstanding.
Return was good.
Theros was okay.
Khans was great.
Battle was okay.
Shadows is good.

Honestly they're doing pretty well. Good entertainment value for multiple kinds of players.

>>46890784
Drop the searing blaze/blood for path to exile, drop lingering souls for boros charm, the 2 hornets are the only green in the deck so ease up on your mana base and drop them for 2 more reckoners

>>46890784
you'll probably want more lands than x4 forbidden orchard

>>46890897
>Name any Magic fuck up and consider whether any new player would care or even know about it if wannabe pro players at stores who follow the real pros didn't point it out.

Skullclamp. Everyone had 4, it was impossible not to see it.

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>>46885602
Kiki chord

>>46890897
There's 2 places I go to play magic. My regular LGS, which is almost exclusively magic with a shitload of competitive players (some have gone to pretty big events and top 8'd)

and a little comic book shop where they do one draft per month with whatever the newest set is. You're allowed to pick packs from whatever they have in stock - though they only have as far back as return to ravnica. Usually about 6-8 people show up, 2 or 3 are under age 13.

Everybody at the LGS hated the theros block with a passion. Everybody at the comic book store loved it.

>>46890784
I saw a brew a week ago along these lines that had stuffy doll/reckoner with pariah on it then you cast vilcano hellion and say 1 million damage that gets directed to the doll/reckoner which in turn gets dealt to the opponent hard to set up but the lulz factor is through the roof

>>46890935
Thanks

I need help. Do i run a secure the wastes or elspeth, suns champion in the main board?

Heres my current UWR Control list
Creature (4)
4x Snapcaster Mage

Instant (29)
3x Cryptic Command
4x Lightning Bolt
3x Lightning Helix
3x Path to Exile
3x Electrolyze
3x Remand
3x Mana Leak
2x Spell Snare
2x Spell Pierce
2x Sphinxes Revelations
1x Secure the Wastes

Sorcery (2)
2x Supreme Verdict

Planeswalker (1)
1x Gideon Jura

Lands (24)
4x Flooded Strand
2x Arid Mesa
4x Celestial Colonnade
2x Steam Vents
2x Hallowed Fountain
1x Glacial Fortress
2x Sulfur Falls
2x Tectonic Edge
1x Desolate Lighthouse
3x Islands
1x Plains

Sideboard (14)
3x Stony Silence
2x Leyline of Sanctity
2x Anger of the Gods
2x Relic of Progenitus
1x Keranos, God of Storms
1x Wear//Tear
1x Celestial Purge
1x Dispel
1x Surgical Extraction

Sideboard still needs work

>>46890932
Good point I'll probably end up dropping the hornets. Boros charm would be great here I didn't even think about that.

What even is point of modern no pro tour?

why anymore play?

>>46890969
You're not thinking like a new player.

A new player (regardless whether they've been playing for 1 year or 8 years) will ask, "Why are you paying one life to fetch for a land?" "Why are you paying 3 life to fetch a land that comes into play untapped". Why are you attacking me with this stupid 2/2 (Goblin Guide) that fills my hands with lands. You may have just cast Blightning off Bloodbraid Elf, but those are (un)commons, I'm casting ELDRAZI.

A new player looks at Skullclamp and says, "Why would I give my creature -1" They don't see anything else. They don't see the upside. All they see is the bad. To a new player, Skullclamp is a shit card and so long as nobody is around to tell them otherwise it will take a long fucking time until new players naturally discover it was broken in half. How often have you heard a new player question why the fuck you're playing a "dogshit" card like Lingering Souls - the sheer fact that they don't get angry losing to the card after they brutally lost to the card attests to the fact that new players will remain ignorant for a real long time even when the evidence is flagrantly in their face. There is so much in Magic that they will blame for their loss that they will ignore the real cause of the problem for a while. "Skullclamp didn't kill me, fucking Disciple of the Vault did." "Bloodbraid Elf didn't kill me, I just didn't get a chance to cast Kozilek/got mana screwed".

This is why Wizards is clamping down on publishing MTGO results. They don't want the community crowdsourcing solving the format.

Stop assuming people are smart. Because people are retarded is why even to this day a 20-year-old card game most "experienced" players can't fucking name the proper order of the steps and phases or describe how priority works.

>>46891058
can you explain this like I'm retarded please?
I understand the mechanics of how the damage gets put on the opponent, but where does the million come from?

>>46891200

It's not about winning, it's about fun!

>>46890703
Should I sell all my real cards and make a modern deck on MTGO?

>>46891200
what's the point in modern pro tour?
it's the same shit, rock paper sissors.
there are only a handful of actually competive decks.

>>46869252
Hey, I found three lion's eye diamonds in my old collection - how expensive is the rest of the deck, and how does it play?

>>46891263
i no want 1000 spend every 2 years
standard only pro tour stink very bad.

>>46891226
Volcano helion let's you do x damage to you and a creature you control . So you name the number you want.

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>>46891226

When it enters the battlefield choose "any amount" of damage for it to deal to you and any creature, it cant be prevented but it can be redirected

Sealed draft is the only real MTG format.
everything else is fucked up with politics and inflated card price meta bullshit.

draft is the only way to compete where skill and decision making are the only variables, not how long someone has been collecting cards for, or how much money they have spent.

>>46891343
ohhhhhhhhhh seen

how many times have you gotten those stars to align?
and why only 1 million? why not 100,000?

>>46891372
Pretty arbitrary. I believe MTGO has a damage limit of a couple hundred thousand.

>>46891372
It can happen but not before turn 7 most games and thats slow against most decks then again if you even just burn them t1 and t2 then reckoner on t3 and hellion t4 you can pay like 14-17 life to finish them off, like all combos it folds to any sort of counter

>>46891260
Honestly, yes. No one will be playing paper MTG in a few years.

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>>46891441
>>46891441

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