BFGG - Battlefleet Gothic General

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First for Daemocles crusade expansion pack when?

Is the Tyrant usable as a support ship compared the Gothic?

>>46835193
Id say its more of a frontline brawler that can also shoot at shit further away.

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>tfw rolling in with this monstrosity in 2v2 games

You can't catch it. You can't stop it. It's going to tear you a new asshole.

Targeting Matrix seems like the next upgrade I need, and probably Overload Generator for even more lance damage? I've already maxed my gunner, too

I wish we could see cooldown timers for the re-fire rates on guns

>>46835164
has anyone else gotten to the "eldar negotiations mission? The AI then drives his fleet straight into the orks and sits still in the middle of them. Anyone found a way to do this mission?"

>Get mission where I am supposed to fight the Torment
>It's a convoy attack
>Don't see the ship all game
>Destroy 4 transports, match ends
>"Congratulations Admiral, you have destroyed the Torment"
Wut?

>>46835332
What if?
They disassembled the torment and those transports were carrying its parts?

Sometimes ships explode for no reason at all.

For a second they are all fine, and then boom.

>Hitting Max Rank
>Realizing how many of my ships are kitted out wrong
>Escort ships don't even have upgrades

The amount of renown it's going to take to fix this is ridiculous.

>>46835407
That ship is into some weird stuff.

Got myself a battleship slot in the campaign.
In MP i went with retribution class, but which one would you say is better for story mode?

What upgrades do you put on your Transports?

Efficient Thrusters, Emissions Dissipator, Camo?

>intro shit is still extremely fucking loud
>they tacked on even more unskippable sequences to it as well

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Rolled a new admiral in multi today, First guy I come up against has every ship with asteroids do no damage and all have space marine favour.

Noice.

>>46835164
Which Imperial Cruiser is the best? I have an addiction to Dominators, because of when the nova cannon was overpowered, but I know they're not actually that good. So which ones are better?

>>46835637
>>46835637
As long as you aren't fighting eldar, Gothics are a solid fire support platform. They can pump out crits like no one's bizznizz

It's crazy how this game is so good.

>>46835637
It's the Tyrant IMO. The Lunar is pretty good in the tabletop game but a bit weak here.

u wanna put an escort mission in ur game senpai

do not

>>46835750
Escort mission was ezpz though, the defense mission was the real bullshit.

>>46835164

In the Navy

Where can you find pleasure
Search the void for treasure
Learn sweet tech heresy
Where can you begin to make your dreams all come true
Man the Macros or the Screws
Or where can you learn to board
Inspire sweet slave booty
Study Cosmology
Sign up for the big band
Or sit in the grandstand
With the Captain of the Fleet


In the navy,
yes you can sail the seven sectors,
In the navy,
Yes you can put your mind at ease,
In the navy,
Come now people make a stand,
Can't you see we need a hand,
In the navy,
Come defend the imperium of man,
In the navy,
Come torpedo the enemies of man,
In the navy,
Come on people make a valiant last stand

If you like adventure
Don't you wait to enter
The recruiting office fast
Don't you hesitate
There is no need to wait
They're conscripting up new seaman fast
Maybe you are too young
To join up today
Bout don't you worry 'bout a thing
For I'm sure there will be
Always a good navy
Protecting the galaxy

>In the Navy repeats

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>plays custom game, 2v2 with hardest ai
>eldar ally just rams my space station with one of their ships until they get destroyed
k

>>46836260
>Horny banshees lusting for green cock.jpg

>2v2
>Eldar and Imperials
>They see my battleship and 180 and warp out immediately
>"crusiers vs battleship is stupid"

??
?????????????

>>46836260
>Eldar are willing to go that far just to troll some humans
No wonder they are going extinct.

>>46836364
Banshee? That thing had to be piloted by Macha herself!

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>>46836497
Was it a 300 point match?
>tfw i scared some folks shitless in beta with my old battleship
>tfw not a single one of them ran away
>All of them fought valiantly against the great flashlight

>>46836594

It was.

Also what the fuck is that on the bottom of that? A heavy lance?

I was thinking of leveling Imperials next

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>>46836637
That's a pretty good question.
To me it looks like a lance/macro cannon of some sort, but those thing never shoot anything out of them.
Hell, every imperial ship has them, even the escorts.

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How long till we get custom colours?

I want my corsairs to look like different bands of pirates, not craftworld Mymeara.

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>>46836704
>The Occurrence Border

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>>46836843
Here you can see it in its natural state.

>>46835452
I've seen that happen with Dauntless, either mine or the enemy's. More so when I played Eldar.

>>46836637
>>46836704
Speculation has been that they're the void augurs.

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>>46836888

>>46836637
>>46836704
>what the fuck is that on the bottom
I'm pretty certain that they're the main shield projection antenna. It's why they have to stick out like star trek nacelles.

Has anybody an idea how I defend at planetary assault? Chaos simply flies around my fleet and since they have twice as many ships and the allied AI is incompetent I can't stasis or taunt them all and they shit all over me.

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WTF.
Pic related is the Guard commander.

>>46837096
Luck and bring in your cruisers, pick one or two enemy ships and destroy them, no matter how long it takes, meanwhile use the stasis bombs the platforms have to slow them down and pray to your cogitators machine spirit that the allied commander gets close enough to enemy to start shooting.

>>46837258
That is Lord General Militant Badass

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'OW DO I MAKE DIS 'ERE SHIP PROPPA ORKY?

>>46837525
INSTALL BIGGER GUNZ! DEN INSTALL ARMOR PIERCING ROUND! DEN INSTALL MORE ARMOR! DEN ADD MORE GUNZ! DEN YOU WILL BE PROPPA ORKY!!!

Do armor piercing round affect Plasma Macro Cannon?
I would guess it's not but I just want to be sure.

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>>46837558
MORE DAKKA? NOW DATS PROPPA ORKY!
WAAAAAAAAAGH!

>>46837589
All i know is that my gut tells me i have no idea.

>>46837589
It does.

Why does everyone's boarding actions work except mine?

>>46837651
Thanks.

>>46837682
Maybe you're out of range or not facing the correct direction.

What is the general consensus on this game?

Sooo, how badly did Imperium get nerfed? I just bought it today, and I can't even beat the first few missions on normal. Someone said they were nerfed right before the game actually launched.

>>46837705
Its good.

>>46837738
They haven't been, they got buffed.

The only IN thing that has been nerfed at all, is the microwarp jump.

>>46837781
Really? It feels like my cannons do fuck all, my boarding never works, and even orks seem to outrange me.

>>46837821
sorry to disagree anon, but actually IN plasma batteries got buffed (Retribution, tyrant, overlord) so they're worth taking now. Eldar got good and deservedly nerfed. Boarding is RNG anyway but as far as I know hasn't been changed.

IN also got a bunch of new toys. For example the ramming prow, which if attached to a retribution creates maximum lulz.

Melta torps and widowmakers are also pretty gud.

Without using hyperbole, tell me what the issue is, what your fleet is made of, and if you're SP or MP?

>>46835572
Extra hull, extra turrets, Voss shields.

>>46837969
Well, I'm stumbling through the early campaign, getting my ass handed to me in a Tyrant (the one with plasma macro's and torps) and a mk.2 dauntless and as many beam frigates as I can get.

I would say micro-ing is difficult, but that would just be me saying the game is difficult. I have no idea what to put on my ships or when to use their abilities.

>>46838097
ACTIVATING TACTICAL COGITATORS!

How is the Space Marine faction and do they play differently from the Imperial Navy?

>>46838130
I know, I know. But I just can't plan or predict for shit.

>>46838097
is there anyway to keep autocast and behavior settings from mission to mission? or to set all my excorts of a single type to use the same autocasts/behaviors easily?

Will this game have expansion? The campaign was too short.

>>46838144

They aren't out yet for vidya

They're high armor lower HP cruisers that are fast and focused on close range bombardment and boarding. They love hit and run attacks.

>>46838144
not out yet, ask again in a month and a half

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>>46837969
This guy again.

>>46838097
Ok the early campaign is actually a little harder than the later stuff I found.

What got me through was judicious use of autocast (right clicK) for certain stuff, and like this dude said:

>>46838130
>ACTIVATING TACTICAL COGITATORS.

Additionally, lo, St Anon returneth.

On raping the Eldar.

A work by anon.

Thou shalt first have items such as micro warp jump, shield transfer and stasis bomb.

Thou shalt utilize the blessed nova cannon for it is said that Isaac of Newton shall smite those in space with great fury.

Thou shalt also make use of His Imperial Majesties most divine torpedoes.

Thou shalt set both to autocast as you are not blessed with mechanderites and will lack time to give unto these devices the care which is required. Allow those most sacred of machine spirits to guide them.

Thou shalt maintain thy gunline. Target not manually, use instead movements of all ships in a line at first.

Thou shalt use the target priority buttons and thou shalt also make use of the critical selection to ensure strikes upon the generators.

While the xenos will hide behind shrouds of lies, the wrath of the emperor strikes at lightning speed. His angels of death doubly so.

The xenos may move suddenly. Even when at top speed judicious use of his most auspicious retrojets might allow for the cockslap of St Jeremiah to be performed, by bringing even those parts of thy ship to bear which are not the divinely armoured prow.

Fight not near nebulae but do engage near asteroids.

At all times, favour assault boats which bring the fury of the emperor to the Xenos and to which there is no defence.

If you are failing to bring in quantity the most efficient of macro cannons and are instead preferring the lance, thou shall be mortified with the spiked simulacra of the drakes member.

Ave imperator. Scrub.

[yes I know I owe you all more of these]

>>46838156
Sadly not that I've found, I usually do it in deployment.

>>46838181
However, to update that little primer, bin micro warp jump, I'd suggest something like stasis/taunt instead now.

>>46835637
They're all pretty useful. Tyrant is now the Dominators equal in brawling, Gothic is a good fire support vessel, Dictaor is the cheapest you can get some launch bays and the Lunar is a nie allrounder that can work really well if you spec it out as a defensive line anchor - I've got one in the campaign that was my first cruiser and it's now level 8 and has been given extra shields, belt armor, voss shields and a power ram, with extra hull plating being my cuent lvl 10 plan. Add in MWJ (to get her out if things go too cray even for her) and Taunt plus maxed-out ratings and techpriests and she can survive ludicrous things for a cruiser, all while still having a useful amount of firepower, six orpedo tubes and the ability to turn enemy escorts and damaged light cuisers and cruisers into roadkill.

>>46838181
That's a really nice Malice battleship

>>46838181
So the AI is actually able to use template weapons/torps better than the player?

Is this true for bombs as well?

>>46838252
I find the AI aims torps reasonably well but doesn't fling them as often as a player might, it will lob them for me in a brawl, but as I'm closing, I'll usually snipe with them.

I try to limit micro to ramming and orders mostly.

Bombs though I also aim.

>>46838251
Not sure if I get the reference but thank you.

>>46838408
>Not sure if I get the reference but thank you.

Malice, the fifth(ish) chaos god has the same colour scheme and symbology as the mechanicus.

But yeah the Mechanicus Retribution looks damn sexual,

>>46838161
>The campaign was too short.
I think the campaign is meant to be played in ironman mode.

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>chaos ships getting lost in the warp
That's not how the Warp works you french fucks

>>46838639
Isn't it?
Not all chaos is Weird Bearers, anon.

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>>46838639

Can't wait for my tomb ships to get lost in the warp.

>>46838181
That captain eats well with his AdMech pension. Would be neat if the little portraits had their uniforms change to match the favors you give the ship.

>>46838694
Can't wait for necrons to not ever be playable ever. Ever.

>>46838699
Yeah, this.
I really want to see (and hear) a change when I change favors on my ships, particularly with Imperials and Chaos.

>>46838567
Tbh, all of the IN ships look sexy. This is why all of mine are named in some sort of phallic way


>>46838699
The Adeptus Mechanicus makes surprisingly good pies.

I wish we could change our captains portrait. I hate the fat fuck in charge of my flagship...

>>46838795
Reconditioning

>>46838639
It actually is, Chaos ships are just as unreliable and affected by Warp tides.

Is the game moddable?
I want at least to add portrait.

Can we repaint out ships?

Muh Drookians

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>Cruiser clash, 250 point game
>4 ships to destroy
>2 of them blow up trying to rush through an asteroid field before the battle even begins

>>46839219
>>46816262

>>46839115
>>46839219
Not yet.

>>46839348
Glorious

>>46838842
Also I think if you execute them the portrait changes.

In theory if you really didn't like a captain, just keep replacing the ship until you get the one you want. Best to do this before you spend any renown on it.

I for one quite like fat captain.

>>46839402
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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So, here's a fresh experience.

>be me, an Emperor-fearing freshly promoted admiral
>decide to do some skirmishing to see how the game works
>get my first cruiser, woo!
>next mission is elves cruiser clash
>deploy, give the initial orders, set engagements, proceed with a 'gl hf'
>not five seconds later, a response comes: 'wot did you just say bout my farseer, m8? IMMA ELF YOU UP
>pfft, I'm on the other side of the maaaa
>TACTICAL COGITATOR ENGAGED
>ohshitherewego.png
>two light cruisers materlialise in sensor range, already charging their throbbing, fully erect lances
>torpedoes follow
>lose a dauntless immediately, the other eats a torpedo and is on fire
>'khaine af, death to the primitives'
>I start to turn, the fucking elf disappears
>All right, I'll fire a probe here, and torpedo this gas...
>TACTICAL COGITATOR ENGAGED
>two engines bolted to a space dick leap out of a cloud, lazor my single escort, and fly off into the sunset
>I start warping out, only to be cut apart by the second pass of the light cruisers
>can't stop giggling

Is that... normal?

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>>46839483
>IMMA ELF YOU UP
>'khaine af, death to the primitives'

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>>46838694
Even better.
>Cant wait for Tau to get lost in the warp.

Ramming is almost a sexual experience in this game.

Smacking a fragile Eldar ship about with a big white armoured prow is immensely satisfying.

>>46839800
They should change the text for Eldar to say: "Lost in the webway"

I've just hit chapter 2. The only speed is ramming speed. Will I be punished for continuing to utilise such glorious tactics?

>>46839903
To be fair theyve change the animation for eldar warp-out to look like theyre entering the webway so hopefully they will change it.

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>>46839929
Well, folks can snipe you earlier because full speed and other maneuvers reveal your ship.

But other than that, there is no reason to go any other speed than ramming speed.

>>46839800
Can't wait for Bad Dragon picking up those ship designs for inspiration.

>>46839929
There's another speed?!

>>46840012
Ships entering the warp can impact others?

>>46840012
Man, involuntary warp entry really fucks you up.

>>46840027
Yah! Iz called MUCKING ABOUT!

>>46839929
How many chapters are there anyway?

>>46840097

Prologue and 5 chapters

>>46840027
If so I've yet to discover it. My favourite moments have been counter-ramming charging ork ships, T-boning them and knocking them off course. I've also used it to dispose of almost every Chaos frigate I've come across.

No luck with the Eldar though. Sneaky gits. Barely missed killing the assassination target in that early mission, even if I blew up every other ship.

>>46840075
At least during earlier beta.
At least, that's when i found this gif and grabbed it.

>>46840117
Will there ever be a time when I have enough deployments to handle every shitstorm in the sector?

>>46839800
that UI looks like shit

>>46840128
Well, in the beta with the short range warp jump was pretty easy to score a ram on an unsuspecting Eldar ship after a boost

>>46840151
Have you ever played Xcom: EU/EW/2?
The answer is no, and if a world islostfor too long, the Inquisition steps in and exterminatuses it.

>>46840179
And here I was thinking that MWJ was for evading the enemy. Too late do I see the heresy that has taken root within me.

>>46840228

Is it possible to retake worlds then or are they gone once they get captured?

>>46840265
You can recapture them.
But there are far more important targets around/you gotta stop the orks and eldar from getting in so they don't start shitting the place up like Chaos does.

>>46840228
Oh boy. Well, so far the only worlds that have been in trouble for a few turns are standard production ones. Couldn't very well leave a forge world in the hands of Chaos, could I?

>>46840301
I can't seem to do any deployments outside of the story missions for the first two chapters, is that normal?

>>46840370
First three missions (up to convoy defence vs orks) are mandatory. After that you should get a single deployment before the plot hits you in the face again.

>>46840370
Do you have enough deployments?

If that's not the problem, then restart campaign and pray to the machine-god.

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>tfw cheevos aren't working right on my ironman save

Oh well, guess I'll have to replay the campaign and destroy that Slaanesh boss again

>>46840396
I wasn't even getting those single deployments.
I won everything I did but still went into chapter 3 with 20 something worlds lost.

>>46840456

What are the bosses like by the way? How's that Ork rok boss? And the Terminus Est?

>>46840505
Really not bad at all. Roflstomped them so far on hard.

>>46840500
I can't remember what affects it, but losing some worlds can make getting a second deployment an uncertainty. That doesn't sound like what was going on with you, though.

>>46840500
You do know that you can do 2-3 missions per turn, right?

>>46840505
Haven't gotten to Ork bosses, but Chaos bosses have the whole fleet dedicated to their god. The commander's also have special portraits, and I noticed the Tzeentch one had multiple skills of the same type but wasn't paying attention to which skills they were. I'm assuming to be a sneaky git.

Is it just me, or are the Eldar holofields 100 % shittier in the launch version, when compared to the beta?
They don't block fucking anything.

>>46840677
They've been revamped. You still block up to 80% of all hits from lances, but they don't block macrocannons anymore - they just reduce accuracy by up to 50%. Mass battery fire now actually kills the poncy gits.

>>46840722
That's pretty bullshit, seeing how the only way the Eldar can even do any damage is to get into 6k range, or less.

>>46840722
They also degenerate quicker than they regen if you drop below full speed. Maybe they'll tweak things as they go ahead. People considered Eldar OP before launch, but that might have been people struggling to deal with something genuinely fast and agile.

>>46840780
So you do what every elf should do and jam your gleaming space dick up their rear exhaust, then scram.

>>46840801
The only people who considered Eldar to be op before launch were total fucking shitters. They were completely beatable even with the earlier versions of the holoshields.
Now the Eldar can't even go near the enemy vessels without spontaneously combusting.

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And we're off to a very auspicious start...

>>46840814
Also, NEVER ram anything. They made Eldar ships even worse at it.

>>46840852
mfw I've been naming all of my line ships after traitor legion ships because they have the best names

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So is there any way to invite a friend to a game? Or am I stuck playing randoms?

>>46840722
So they basically made the eldar unplayable?
There is zero point in using any Eldar escorts because they get imedeately destroyed, and even eldar lineships die in seconds to macro cannon fire.

>>46840997
I doubt it. Sounds like the just changed how you need to play them, and people need to git gud again.

>anything but Cruiser Clash
Just kill me now.

>>46840570
It wasn't letting me.
I fear the machine spirit was not cooperative.

>>46841100
Nah m8.
They are glass cannons without the cannon part. Their weapons do jack shit for damage.
At least with the earlier holofields, they could withstand punishment reasonably well as long as they stayed on the move.

Now you can kiss your ship goodbye if you go within 6k of an enemy vessel. There was zero reason to nerf the holofields. The main fucking drawback they had was the fact that you needed to keep moving for them to stay up, and the fact that they didn't stop lightning strikes.
Now you need to keep them moving even more, due to the quicker degeneration of the field, they still don't block lightning strikes, and now they don't even block macrocannons, which means that your ships can't take any fucking damage at all.

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>>46841263
Looks like someone has a primitive grasp of void tactics.

>>46841313
at best

>>46841100
I play elves. I never played the beta, but they seem perfectly fine to me. Don't get close, attack from behind or from extended range, use terrain, boost, and running silent a lot and you're fine. Also elf fighters/bombers are bullshit made manifest.

>>46840973
2v2s yes. Haven't got it to work in custom

>>46841313
>Defending against elfdar as imperials, breakthrough mission
>Spesselves able to slip past me and whittle down the stations
>Not able to pin them down fast enough at all, even with stasis bombs, assault boats, nova cannons, and an Astartes Dauntless
>Still manage to kill two ships and cripple another two, they fuck off to the webway before I can finish them
>By this point all the stations are destroyed and there's no fucking way I can catch those fucks, even if I had escorts (which are prone to being killed in the opening volley by Eldar)
>Realize I didn't lose a single ship, not even my lone Sword
>I still lose because those two ships got away
Fuck elves

>>46840830
This. I won far more games against eldar than I lost to them.

>>46841447
>from extended range
The Eldar got the shortest range weapons in the fucking game.
Even the orks have weapons that hit at longer ranges without any upgrades needed.

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>Quinox sound is lost
>Total control sits at 45%
>Traitor forces everywhere
>Orks WAAAAGHING where chaos isn't
>Half my fleet is lost in the warp
>My light cruisers are heavily damaged
>MFW a task force of plucky destroyers and frigates are all that stands between Purgatory and a Chaos Fleet

>>46841523
Guerilla tactics with light prow lance escorts may be your answer there.

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>>46841469
Ah, that's a bummer. Wanted to do some compstomps with a friend. Thanks.

>>46841558
No.
What >>46841523 gotta do is mass swords, get them AP shells and ZERG RUSH!!!

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Exactly what things to slaves/grots/servitors and whatever the eldare equivalent is decrease the cooldowns of?
Do they affect orders?
Do they affect lightning strikes/boardings?
Do they affect torpedoes/pulsars/nova cannons?

Or is it just skills like microwarp jump and taunt?

Tips for someone that's never played BG before?

>>46841788
Ram everything

>>46841778
My guess is it lowers the cooldown on the latter two.

>>46841778
Anything with a cooldown gets reduced. Torpedoes, nova cannons, skills, etc.

>>46841803
If you can position yourselves so both of your broadsides are firing you'll be putting out twice(ish) as much damage. Of course, that often means ploughing through the midst of the enemy formation.

>>46841778
Don't remember if they affect orders, but literally everything else is a skill.
It makes upgrading them a pretty solid choice no matter what.

>>46841788
BOARD EVERYTHING!

>>46841838
Ignore me, just checked the wiki and it says that they reduce the cooldown of all SKILLS.

Seems like the only way to earn any renown as the Eldar is to just warp out the moment you can.
You can't win against other races with these trash ships.

>>46841515
Flyers and torpedoes, senpai. Upgraded pulsars as well.

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>>46841949

>>46842000
>flyers
Negated by any ship that has fliers of it's own.
>torpedoes.
Can be dodged easily outside of 6k range.
>upgraded pulsars.
Still only reach to 9k.

I really liked playing the Eldar in the beta, but the release version of them just feels gutted, and impossible to play. The ships don't do any more damage to compensate for their even increased fragility, and the holofield changes basically mean that macrocannons just rape the Eldar if you try to engage your opponent. Shit sucks.

>>46841788
There are two speeds. Ramming speed and boarding speed. There is also elf speed, but moving a the speed of elf can have unforseen consequences. If your pulsar stays charged for more than four days, consult a bonesinger.

>>46842074
if you have the spawn nightshades skill, you now have twice as many fighters as any enemy ship

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>>46841697
>zerg rush with Imp ships
>enemy has the potential to be orks

>>46842074
Meanwhile, having not played the beta, I don't have a lot of trouble with them. I still blow all my cogitator on the first two passes, but I don't feel like my ships spontaneously combust at 9k or that they're underpowered.

I don't really understand how the Imperial escorts work. I don't know whether more become available as you progress but they seem almost identical to me. One has torpedoes and macro cannons, and the other just has macro cannons. Why would you every take the latter?

>>46842148
Lances and macro cannons I should say.

>>46842106
Do nightshades reveal your ships? Like normally an opponent can track carriers because the fighters hanging out near them are visible.

>>46842106
Fighters don't do shit for bombing m8.

More 'your fleet' themes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bOMOQb3Gg8

>>46842148
2x macro cannons and 1x Lance
4x macro cannons
What do you think?

>>46842148
Double guns have better arcs and are better at harassing the enemy. I upgraded my Swords to have +3 turrets and use them to plug holes in my formation and serve as anti-ordnance. Having both of its weapons on the dorsal arc means they'll almost always be shooting, unlike the Firestorm which requires that frontal arc to shoot with its lance.

Also, with Swords you can focus with upgrading their macroweapons.

>>46842148
because it has many macrocannons

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>>46842128
With orks, use bombers and torpedoes liberally.

>>46842180
If only there was such a thing as Ecclesiarchy fleets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZRcMyHMhos

>>46842216
And stasis bombs.
Greenskins are shite at turning.

>dat Ork feelin' when ya ram one of dem PONSY ELDAR WITH YER KROOZER
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

>>46842170
it means you don't need to waste your fighter bays on fighters, you can just keep spamming bombers

>>46842180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KYYVrBX4v0

>>46842180
You're doing it wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEt41bYQBgE

>>46842265
But that's heresy, anon.

>>46842180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w34fSnJNP-4

>>46842475
YOU are doing it wrong anon!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlSaymEJ7WY

>>46842521
I beg to differ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb4BWSUV8mM


Additionally, has anyone else noticed that ramming with a retribution which has a ramming prow, then hitting retros, ramming again etc can entirely crush a cruiser in about ten seconds?

>GLORIOUS

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>>46842593

>canons blazing as she came.

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All those saying Eldar are shit, They're not.

Just got my ass handed to me with plasma/stasis bomb spam. This guy knew what he was doing with his movement so I'm guessing its a learn2play option.

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>>46842180

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUf-8aXt9Hw

>Play a 2v2 with friend
>Ork Chaos vs 2 Chaos
>My buddies game glitches after he uses one tractor beam and can't use any abilities
>They are doing double carrier with tzeech honors
>They wipe the floor with both our light cruisers cause my ally can't do shit
>warp everything out
>1 last escort and it's hidden in a gas cloud
>dodge 2 probes and stealth run to a cloud he already checked
>they claim they are defenders
>times runs out and we win :^)
thanks sub to my blog :^)

Is taking only the bare minimum of ships of the line allowed for the points(one per 300) and then filling the rest with as many escorts as you can a valid challenge for Campaign or otherwise?

>>46841313

>Fight the Eldars in the campaign
>Throw insults and claim they are the best at shooting stuff in space
>Eldar decides to boost into my ships after boxing them into a corner, killing themselves
>"Well done Admiral you sure showed those xe-"
>"STUPID MONKEIGH YOU GOT LUCKY WE LET YOU KILL THOSE SHIPS GET GUD AT VOID COMBAT"

I seriously cannot wait to kill Count Cuckula and the rest of those arrogant xenos.

>>46843004
It's a valid way of breaking the game in half if you know what you're doing/play elves or orks.

>>46843004
Yes. Once I lost my good ships the match before and didn't want to lose anymore so I just took two CLs and then maybe fourteen or so escorts.

So, are the hard crashes I'm getting when playing this game just because my elderly computer is overheating trying to play this and shutting down, or because of bugs?

>get told to hunt some pansy elves
>they completely outmaneuver all
>after 5min of me doing a rabbit chase they disengage
>"Captain your failure has been noted"
Then give me faster ships you prick

>>46843016
But anon....in the canon storyline, the Imperials swallow their pride and ally with the Eldar in order to gain access to the webway gate.

So I lost the Hand of Darkness to Abaddon. Will this screw over my campaign?

>>46840801
They only start dropping when you're under 80% of full speed.

>>46843521
pretty canon anon

>>46843175
wait really? damn, so what kind of stuff would count as knowing what i'm doing for imperial navy?

Addendum, what upgrades should be prioritized on each class of escort for Imperial navy if i'm gonna play escort heavy?

>>46843564
Well that's why I didn't save scum when I lost, though it pisses me off that the warp-out animation started just as the Pillar of Truth blew to little tiny pieces.

Just curious, how many turns is the campaign?

I'm on turn 28 so far

>>46843670
I imagine the upgrade that makes macro weapons ignore most armour at sub-3000 ranges would work well with a Sword swarm.

>>46843733
Considering that the 12th Black Crusade canonically lasted about 40 years?

So I just had the first Eldar Corsair mission in the campaign. Literally took me 3 minutes to win it. Is that normal?

Anyone else getting issues with getting the cutscenes to run properly in the release version?

It didn't happen during Beta and half of the reason to even play the campaign is for the hammy acting and slackjawed mouth moving caricatures.

God fucking dammit I hat assassinations and data retrievals
fucks hide in the far corner and by the time I get to them there isn't enough time left to accomplish the objective

>>46843838
Yes, the AI cannot into elves.

>>46843740
Cobras is where it's at. Or widowmakers. You want speedo torpedo and extra shield. Then you rotate two or three squadrons. Burn in, dump load, scoot to recharge. AI can't dodge torpedoes and people just freak out when they can't see the map under the GLORY.

Is there any reason to take the Carnage or Slaughter cruisers? The murder seems like a straight up better version of the Carnage and the Slaughter appears useless.

Can you upgrade escorts in Skirmish? Currently have a Tyrant kitted out with Taunt and Stasis Bomb, but the escorts are still just level 1.

>>46840722
It's bullshit since people just tool their fleets now. I see infinite sword spam fleets now. In the tabletop it makes sense for batteries to be stronger since you had an all-comers list.

>>46844245
What level you are currently?

>>46843433
p-pls respond
I want to play

>>46844599
I've had one crash in 10 hours with the release version and I'm pretty close to the minimum requirements. It's probably your computer dying.

>>46844520
Just unlocked Cruisers and 300-point missions, which is about level 3?

>>46844599
Seems its your computer, so far no bugs on my end

>>46844716
Then soonish you'll get to upgrade your escorts, probably next level.

>700 point Eldar space station assault
Jesus fucking christ I lost half of my fleet to them. And I didn't even scratch the paint on their station. Fuck their bombers

>>46843433
Run some diagnostic programs to watch your gpu and cpu temps.

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>>46844754
Space Station Assaults are nothing less than pure bullshit since they gave both players the same number of points.

>>46844825
They had at least 2 battlecruisers and a couple of cruisers and escorts to go with them. This game needs patched badly

>>46842180
I'd rather post what I listen to while playing the game. While the game's soundtrack is fitting as hell, I need strong bass lines and repetition to keep me thinking.
I mostly play IN.

https://youtu.be/Atno5DSFtlk

>>46844245
Yep. Once you get to level 7 you have three upgrade slots per escort ship. I forget when you get the first one.

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>space station defense against eldar
>the station is sitting in a massive asteroid field

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>Eldar pulsars take down 2/3 of my cruiser's health in the span of a few seconds.
Kill all knife-ears

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>>46842180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN5ExwsXUiQ

is there a way to turn off the HUD for screenshots?

>>46837781

Yeah, micro warp jump was nerfed to the point that it doesn't even fucking work.

It was never OP to begin with, for fucks sake.

>>46838181

>there are people that play this game and actually set torpedoes to autocast

Why would you do that? They always miss and there's a chance they will hit your own ships.

>>46845436
Or your Ally, i swear to god the Space Marines cruiser rams every torpedo that launches on their watch

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>>46840012

LOL!!!

HOW!?

>>46845363
F10

>>46845436
I don't understand how people use autocast. I think micromanaging everything makes it more fun

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>>46845436
mfw the game puts them on auto cast itself

>>46845518

I tried it out when I first started playing but then I quickly realized how shit it was.

>>46845534

Doesn't do that for me.

>>46842180
>space battle theme music

prepare for /thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASj81daun5Q&list=PLF5E0B17080CAAB10&index=10

>>46845661
It's a shame this song is so overplayed.

>>46845691

Yeah, it is a shame. Wont stop me from creaming myself whilst playing this to my Imperial ships purging xenos scum.

>>46845691
>>46845661

This one is great too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTsD2FjmLsw

>took 6 trys to do first escort mission
>on my 12th try doing the data stealling mission

What the fuck is wrong with this game? What the fuck is wrong with me? What the fuck is wrong with the developers putting in capture the flag and a literal escort mission in their spaceship game?

>>46840780
Dude, full Holofields at 6k means that IN or Chaos macrobatteries will have a mighty 30% chance to hit you. Then a quarter of the hits gets absorbed by your tinfoil armor, for an effective 22.5% average damage actually arriving in your healthpool.

>>46845661
>>46845764

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6IETf-vuxA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_pAa9252Uo

>>46845769

jusd pley it on ez brah.

i see a lot of people complaining about that mission.

i thought it was hard too the first time i did it but it's really not. mebe git gud at being an admiral?

The ally AI is seriously the most crippling thing in the campaign.

In the mission to co-operate with the Eldar Prince he decided that his eldar ships would get for a close quarters brawl with the Orks.

Playing on fucking Ironman doesnt allow me to savescum it.

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When a mummy shit and a daddy ship love each other very much, they come together in the warp and make a space hulk.

>>46843670
Sword: AP ammo, extra turrets and extra hull plates. She's your heavy escort and braler. Backbone of any escort-heavy In strategy.
Widowmaker: Short-burn torps, improved augers, special maneuvers don't reveal or going through asteroids unharmed. Scout and opportunistic torpedo boat.
Firestorm: Lance range, lance shield damage and IDK. Second-line fire support.
Cobra: Short-burn torps, extra hull plates, extra turrets or AP ammo. Pure cannonfodder that you shouldn't actually spend any points on. The upgrades are for those you summon with IN favour ships or space stations.

Why does destroying a ship as it enters the warp happen so often? It's fucked me over on the first Eldar mission.

>>46844360
Sword die to single pulsar passes from Eldar cruisers though, get fucked up by bombers and swarms of them are ludicrously vulnerable to bombs, massed torpedo spreads and/or the Ulthwe maelstrom ability.

>>46846190
Only if the enemy isn't paying attention. Swarm your Swords and you can easily shoot down bombers and torpedoes.

>>46846135

heresy

pls delete this

>>46846190
How on earth do people actually manage to hit escorts with pulsars?

>>46846142

if you put navy favor on all of your ships, will they all be able to summon a cobra separately from each other? ....seems potentially OP.

>>46846474
Swarm your swords and the Eldar palyer has enough points to throw more than enpough torpedoes and bombers at it to ensure that some get through. Meanwhile, you're clustered up tight enough to get into each others way, presenting a gigantic target for bombs and mealstroms and short pulsar drive-bys nuking a Sword or two each time.

>>46846542
Yes. The ability also starts on cooldown and has a very long one. If your enemy draws out the match long enough to allow you several mass summons, it's his problem.

>>46846492
>deselect focus fire
>select frontal firing
>set engagement range to 3ks shorter than the range of your pulsar
>issue attack order
>issue movement order once the pulsar has fired

Congratulations! You have now landed a solid pulsar hit without lower your holofields.

I just played against 1 cruzer and infinite brute ram ships, and won by running a single eldar escort around for 18 minutes, why is ramming so bullshit like this? I miss how ships never touched in the tabletop.

BONUS RENOWN POINTS: -148
Just when I thought this game stopped fucking me, what the Hell? When I lost the inquisitor ship defense mission I got more points, now I get less points for winning it?

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>>46842741
Excellent taste.

>Jump into a 2v2 lobby. They all watch LoGH.

>>46846616

excellent....

Holy fuck this game is difficult to control, they should have had the same control system as in Empire Total War. Fuck this game.

>>46846837
Might be a bug, might be genuine. Either way, trust me: The effect you get later is worth a hell of a lot more than 150 renown.

>>46845436
the ai is actuallt decent at aiming them and setting my 4 or 5 cobras too autocast lets me focus on microing my cruisers larger salvos manually

>>46847009

lolool git gud noob. the empire total war controls for ships fucking sucked ass.

>>46847186

Yeah you have a bit of a point there. It seems like a good idea when you've got lost of torp. launching ships but in reality the AI has piss poor timing and they can easily hit your own ships. I save slow-mo mode for torpedo line ups, desu.

People who run 14+ escorts can fuck right off, how are you supposed to out-mirco that shit when all they have to do is point and click.

I know the Imperium is supposed to be backwards and everything, but from what I gather most of the larger ships are actually quite old and from a time when the Imperium was ascending. So why the fuck did they build ships that maneuver in 3d to mimick ships maneuvering in 2d from the 1700s?

>>46847390
They didn't, it's a gameplay abstraction.

>>46847371
use the slomo and cue orders. Use a little more autocasting.

No trouble then.

>>46847390

because this is warhammer 40k

>>46847419
But I've seen the actual models outside they game. They are all broadside oriented.

>>46847371
>implying it's their fault if they got their fleet wiped the previous match and then the game threw them into a 760 point game

>>46847484
>implying orks are spamming brute rams and macros against eldar randomly

>>46847465
And combat takes place at millions of kilometers. at those ranges you don't really need everything to be turreted. Just roll the ship if they're above you

>>46842180
https://youtu.be/arKoBwtmuX0?t=31s

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Why don't upgrades, favours and crew increase the point value of each ship? I think that would be a lot better than giving extra points if there is a difference between players in rank.

>>46846837
Happened to me too. I thought I was fucked in the mission as I only had a Dominator, dauntless and a cobra. It ended with the Dominator ramming most of the heretic filth. I've now upgraded it with extra maneuver gauge and the skill to automatically refill it for more righteous rams.

>>46847686
Are you talking about lore or the game because the game usually devolves into knifefights and ramming. I wish combat look place at longer ranges, though.

>>46848183
in the lore/tabletop game. The BFG rulebook explicitly says that the ships actually occupy an infinitesimally small space somewhere in the stem of the ship. The models are so wildly out of scale so you have something to paint.

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>>46847465

Please, do not try to apply realism to the Warhammer 40k universe.

That way lies madness.

>>46848265
I thought it was the base was the size of the ship/. Thats where all the measurements start from.

Are Gothic cruisers now useless as they can no longer get the upgrade that improves lance crit chance of the lock on order by 300%?

>>46848337
The base was close proximity, where boarding torps bombers etc. hit you. I miss how you could move through other ships without a problem, ramming and bumping is honestly a pain in the ass. It's fun as anything but eldar. Where's my 2+ to dodge anything but batteries?

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>>46848337
Wrong on both counts.

>>46847371
See >>46847447

Also, if you're not Eldar, just ram the fuckers. A cruiser going All Ahead Full/Bg Red Button through a pack of no-micro escorts is going to cause ludicrous damage.

Well unless it's Brutes, but then you cna jsut outgun them because ramming is the only thing Brutes are actually good for.

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>>46848634
>A cruiser going All Ahead Full/Bg Red Button through a pack of no-micro escorts is going to cause ludicrous damage.

Yup, an Imperial Cruiser with a power ram upgrade will smash escorts like they're not even there.

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I hope ship painting gets put in soon. My ships need their green hulls and white prows. Its just doesn't feel right playing the campaign and the ships are painted wrong!

Actually I just want to paint them all pink.

Is there a way to deal with invisible convoy ships?

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>be eldar, 1 shadow left vs 1 ork cruiser
>engines destroyed, right on it's ass as it's warping away
>enemy ship explodes and does over 400 damage killing my ship
>mfw "they have destroyed our flagship"

how do you fix the bug that makes it so you can't activate abilities? Most annoying shit to lose easy games to it

>>46845397
It was mandatory, it was a little op.

Ideally it needs a minimum and max range rather than just not working like it does now

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>Blackstone Fortress mission
>Hyped up, those things are nuts
>Dat Warp Cannon
>Dat Health
>Dat Armor
>Dat...turret rating?

And thus was the Blackstone Fortress anticlimactically torpedoed to death from across the map.

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Eldar are the master of bantz in this game, please tell me we get some Ork talk later

Spoilers yo.
>https://youtu.be/INPgubrPpZg?t=1337

Holy shit.
How they managed to turn a 5 sentence paragraph from the rulebook into something so epic is amazing.
These frogs are alright.

Now if only I can actually get the damn cutscenes to play correctly in-game that'd be swell.

>>46848265
>The models are so wildly out of scale so you have something to buy.

FTFY

>>46848336
Wew lad, that is some 80s looking Warhammer right there.

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>>46850088

The best kind of Warhammer.

>>46850159

>The breakfast club we deserve

Also that jetbike in the background brings new meaning to crotch-rocket

>>46850159
Those shades are badass.

>>46849683
canon, happened in 13th Black Crusade too

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muh fleet

>>46850245
It ain't beta anymore, admiral.

>>46850245
No fighters/bombers/sperm boats?

>Defeat Terminus Est
>It's a you're the attacker in a data recovery mission episode

Fuck you too

>Doing the first eldar mission.
>The eldar admiral is dancing about like a faggot but I've managed to get him to half hull.
>Looks like he is about to break through my ring.
>High energy turn on my Dominator.
>Toss a nova cannon to his side to force him back to me.
>He just turns and all ahead fulls into it.
>Dead

Stupid eldar. They need to learn some void tactics.

>>46850527
is it like a super speshul ship or just mark of nurgle despoiler?

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>borderline impossible to hit anything with the nova now
>Ulthwe psychic storm goes through shields
>micro warp jump requires huge amounts of room to use
Playing against eldar as imps has become pure suffering.

>>46850946
On the contrary, I hate playing as eldar vs imperials. It's either a fuck ton of impossible to outmanuver swords who just ram or its 4 nova cannons sitting in a corner sitting so close that whichever way I approach I get rammed.

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>tfw destroying all the new accounts with superior orky taktikz

They neva expect kunnin gitz. I feel like a smurf account.

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>>46851235
I have a sneaking suspicion that those cunning stratagems are a lot like my Imperial ones. After the revolutionary discovery of the second speed, my win rate skyrocketed.

>>46851315
the second speed?

>>46851315
>After the revolutionary discovery of the second speed
What?

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>>46850709
It's Typhus's ship. It's a legendary and powerful ship in 40K.

The game crashed on the Inquisitor Horst escort mission. Any workaround?

>>46851439
He means in the video game.

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>>46851340
>>46851414
There is a speed other than ramming speed. I'm calling it the sneaking speed for now. Pictured are cruiser captains using this revolutionary discovery about two seconds before re-engaging ramming speed from out of a gas cloud.

>>46851472
>216.M36 Mission to Barbarus

>In response to Imperial Naval encounters with the Terminus Est the Adeptus Mechanicus seek out the ship’s ancient schematics, gifted to the Death Guard after the vessel’s creation. An expedition to Barbarus, the scoured remains of the Death Guard home world, finds the data the Mechanicus seeks and the Imperium creates the first Despoiler Class warships inspired by the formidable Terminus Est.

>It is only much later that the Imperium realises that the design holds a fatal flaw, its Geller fields vulnerable after extended exposure to the Warp. Over the centuries, almost every Despoiler Class warship is lost to Chaos, its crew and captains subverted or corrupted by the Dark Gods.

Yeah, realized it after I posted. Here have some lore dump as an apology.

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tfw phyrric victory

>first storyline mission vs eldar
>eldar captain deploys in a corner like a complete idiot, boxing himself in
>taunts me as i approach with 2 cruisers, 1 light cruiser, 1 frigate
>throw a nova cannon in his direction, just to put it on cooldown
>it actually hits him
>"Well mon-keigh, you sure are lucky... "
>mission finished

Fucking eldar.

>>46851586
That's what you get when you let a feudal world bumpkin command space fleets.

>>46841778
Just checked this now.
Does affect: Orders, Skills, Favour Skill, Torpedoes
Does not affect: Lightning Strike/Boarding, Emergency Repairs, Strike Craft.

>>46851015
They have bigger prows? BOMB THEM!
Seriously, plasma and stasis bombs do a great job of clearing escort swarms up, as do bombers on manual (though ymmv with that one).

>>46851743
Affects Reload, which affects abilities not affected

>>46851586
>tfw cloned your Light Cruiser captains

>>46851922
What?

>>46851956
servitors affect the cd of the reload order, which reduces the cd of all the skills servitors dont affect.

So where are the portraits stored in the game files?

>>46851743
What about Nova Cannon?

>>46843906
I have some problems too.
Sometimes the voice acting comes later than it should and sometimes it stutters.

>read the /v/ thread
>90% casuals regurgitating bad advice to each other

I can't even imagine the actual game forums

>>46852212
/v/ is just shit in general

>>46851935
With the mortality rates of my light cruisers it makes sense to clone the officers.

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>>46852242
I know, it's my main board

>>46851922
That's is true.

>>46852012
Yes affects Nova Cannon.

Tip for all youz freeboota' gitz out there:

Applying 3dm crack on your CODEX install gets rid of the annoying CTDs and fatal errors

>>46845769
>on my 12th try doing the data stealling mission
Corner him, let him deplete your shield because he will then use lightning strike, then you use lightning strike to steal the data and warp out.
Use the escort to distract any other enemy ship, he should be too far away to do anything while you're warping out.

>>46839800

getting fucked by Dark Eldar

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>TFW slaughtering shitters with lancers
>MFW they all whine like bitches about eldar being OP
>MFW none of them have taunt

>>46840158

Eldar UI does look like shit but I like it

>>46848336

Exactly what my Monday nights look like

Fuck those french cunts.
They made eldar completely unplayable.

>>46837705
It's really really great but doesn't have much replay value unless you wait for expansions or enjoy multiplayer.

If you get a boner from crushing people in multiplayer, playing 2v2s or just generally love the gleeful feeling of destroying peoples ships so they have to pay points unless they want to leave them on the bench for the next game, then the game would be a steal at twice the price.

Whats the soundtrack for the beginning of the campaign? when spire talks over the galaxy map

>>46851439
I would put my dick in it

What 1st imperial cruiser in campaign to get?

I originally tried the Dominator to facefuck people, but torps would be way better than the nova

Thinking Tyrant or Gothic class?