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Launch is Upon Us Edition

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>>46802465

>Where can I find the rules?
http://www.forum.specialist-arms.com/index.php?topic=5203.0

>What the FUCK? What rules books do I actually need?
http://pastebin.com/6AGsum1s
(Short version: 2007 edition of the rulebook, 2010 Update, and Armada)
Revised is a set of fan-rules, written almost entirely by a Dark Eldar player. It shows.

>Where can I find physical miniatures to use/proxy with?
http://pastebin.com/jC96JeMV (But we always need more - Feel free to chip in with others you've found in-thread)
Also looking for more non-GW minis suitable for running boarding party games.

>Paper ship Proxies:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/h6zp53
http://imgur.com/a/MhFcj

>Boarding action rules
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Warhammer_40000/Zone_Mortalis_Expansion.pdf
See the physical models link for some appropriate options for Navy troops

>Tactics and strategy resources for tabletop
Marine Tactica underway.
AdMech tactica: http://pastebin.com/YSrAf9f7

>BFG:Armada beta is now live
>Battleflee/tg/othic Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/bfgtg

>Anon is hosting a campaign, you can find the forums and info here:
http://tg-gothiccampaign.freeforums.net/board/1/general-discussion

Application deadline is the 25th
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How did the campaign AI get so fucked up?
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First for the imperial navy!
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>>46820872
At least the cutscenes art is eye-gasmic.
Also Eldar are a nightmare
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>>46820872
What's going on that's so bad. For me everything has been working alright so far. AI isn't suicidal but they aren't kicking my ass in either, which is as it should be for normal difficulty.
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What's the appeal of PvP vs AI in this game? I'm terrible at RTSs and playing skirmish is fun until you hit 8 and there are basically no incentives to keep playing, but I don't want to get smashed and deathspiral'd in MP.

Also how does cogitator work? Playing eldar without it seems like it would be a clusterfuck. If only you could select mission points so you can just have 2 or 3 ships.
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>>46820907
Cutscenes are real Lore porn.
>inquisitor in ye olde pointy hat investigating heresy
>Sisters last stand against Slaaneshi demons
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FORTEEN ORKS ON A HUMIE SHIP
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>Blockage mission
>This might be fun
>mfw 20 mins of chasing a Chaos ship throughout the map as it whittles down the defense platforms slowly with its flyers

Now I understand why people hate Chaos
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>>46820920
Press space bar to cogitator.

MP is fun because you can have salt from human players.
Also, human players can be either harder or easier than A.I opponents.
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>>46820927
>Sisters last stand against Slaaneshi demons
The fanfics are writing themselves!
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>>46820920
Just play MP anon. It's a lot of fun, the matches are quite quick and there is some kind of hidden MMR so if you are not very good you shouldn't play too much against people who are.
Deathspirals aren't really a thing until you hit the higher ranks and are constantly given 600 or 700 point games. For ranks 1-4 they don't really exist.
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Fuck that I aint playing until they fix the AI having stupid amount of points even on normal. barely get one battle cruiser, two cruisers and one light against chaos that somehow gets 6 heavy ships and shitloads of escorts
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>>46820927
You mean lore rape. Wa

>Preventing Abaddon from getting the Hand of Darkness and the Eye of Night
>Killing the Eldar instead of allying with them
>stopping Abaddon from destroying the Tarantis system

The only surprise was that the end result did not differ from the canon one.
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>>46821026
Thankfully they get a hot load of cyclic torpedo on them couple seconds later
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>>46820919
Silent Running doesn't do anything.
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>>46821026
>fat daemonette
>Keeper of Secrets squirting milk all over them

I was like what the fuck? Was it all necessary, devs?
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Oh please glorious moddurator dont give me a ban for this
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How bad are the Eldar really? I haven't played in a while and only in skirmish mode. Will my flagship Barrius Blanche get wrecked once I get it back?
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>>46821069
If it makes you feel that way it's probably lore accurate.
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are horrifically long load times on startup and crashes every 10 minutes or so just my problem or is anyone else having it?
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>>46821150
I have the long initial load time too but ctds are very infrequent for me.
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I like that the campaign uses the maps of Gothic Sector from the actual rulebook too.
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mfw the chaos ship with data warps out the exact second I destroy it.

Ironman is a real bitch sometimes.
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>>46821080
>That fat daemonette
Jesus Christ how horrible!
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>>46821423
The one on the left? I don't think that's fat, more phat. She just got booty.
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>>46820947
GRUNTIN' AT EECHUVVER
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>>46821423
>No thick an' fertile daemonette gifted to you from Slaanesh
>No happy family of half daemon abominations to fill your home

I just want to experience the life of a family man.
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Post your /campaign music/.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fpscxE9WDk
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>>46821619
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>First Data recovery mission
>I grab the data, burn out, activate warp
>Chaos ship manages to grab the data RIGHT as my ship jumps out
>Mission fail
FUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>46821660
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whxcq4I0kAo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0uBU5ddX4U
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>>46821619
Slaneesh just want's you to feel good
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>>46821828
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>>46821042
You do realize you can change the course of the Campaign right?
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Having to start new admirals made me realise just how much fun the imperial light cruisers are. It's a shame I can never find a use for them in larger point battles and they always end up being gibbed by a battlecruiser.
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>>46821828
I know that feeling.
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>>46821660
I find the soft music of Chopin suits my annihilation of the enemy.
https://youtu.be/6OFHXmiZP38
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>>46821835
I'm hoping at some point soon someone is going to make a video of them doing nothing but ramming the fuck out ships as the orks set to the second song you linked there. It needs to happen.
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>>46822265

Classical is the right idea, but more bombastic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCct_tSQ8WY
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>Playing orks
>data recovery vs Eldar
>ohboyherewego
>They disable every system on my ships except boarding torpedoes
>actually manage to steal the data
>gets stolen back before I can warp
>Eldar warps out 2 seconds later
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Anyone else having issues when launching? Mine launches as the rear-most window, and I can't tab over to it. Running fullscreen in the settings.
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>>46822615
Have you tried waiting until it boots up? Mine often does that, but swaps over properly once it finishes loading the main menu.
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>>46822615
Great. Just got minimised and couldn't tab back in. Relaunched, only to have lost a full turn's progress. FIX YOUR GAME BEFORE YOU FUCKING RELEASE IT.
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>>46822600
The Eldar refuse to let Orks get anything nice. News at 11.
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>>46822600
Space elves being faggots once again
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I have yet to ever stop a ship from warping out with a boarding action. Is there a particular subsystem I'm supposed to be targeting?
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>>46822871

Generator
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>>46822871

it's just a RNG roll, blowing the generator does make warp jump take longer though.
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>Losing every match
>Completely losing hope at this point before the matches even start
>Still want to grind to 8 for the Battleship

chaos is suffering
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I really really like this game but it can be insanely unforgiving.
I've yelled at my PC so many times, not just for the crashes meaning I had to babysit that inquisitor four times over.
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>>46822897
>>46822916
Why not Engine?
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>>46822641
This issue didn't crop up in the Beta.

The problem is they did a patch just for release and must've fucked some shit up.
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>>46822997

cuz it's just an engine.
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Assassination against Orks in the campaign is fucking ridiculous.

The AI point advantage completely fucks you as the IN
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>>46822997
Engine for motive power in realspace, generator for warp, where relative velocity doesn't matter and only gellar fields do.
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>>46822997
The thrusters on the back of the ship play no part in tearing a hole in real space into the Immaterium.
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I really like how some of the upgrades are more faction specific now.
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>>46823153
But wouldn't the ship just sit there in the Warp without its engine?
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>>46822651
Every game I get is against fucking orks.

Can easily win every time by just kiting their ships and sending in bombers, but I feel bad so I just send my ships in to their doom half the time.
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>>46823222
Why would physics matter in the warp, famalam?
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>>46823305
>Can easily win every time by just kiting their ships and sending in bombers, but I feel bad so I just send my ships in to their doom half the time
I get that way too.
>>46823321
Because wouldn't you still need to go forward in the Warp?
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>>46823321
Because the gellar field drags a bubble of real space physics into the warp along with your ship.
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>>46823358
Warp engines and real space engines do different things but they both move the ship.
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>>46823358
>Because wouldn't you still need to go forward in the Warp?
You don't seem to understand the nature of the Warp.
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>>46823408
To be fair, no one does
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>>46823408
But if Gellar Fields are bubbles of reality that means you should be able to go forward in the Warp.
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Do you need to do the urgent missions as soon as possible? I've only got two deployments per turn and I have two urgent missions and a couple of orks and traitors attacking my planets.
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Is there anything more satisfying than crippling an Eldar shitbucket and then ramming it to pieces? I think not.

Though a massed Nova Cannoning on clumped enemies that manages to hit is orgasm inducing.
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>>46823444
What, go forward and leave the Gellar field? That sounds like a great idea, Einstein.
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>>46823701
I find blowing out the engines of ork ships to be more satisfying.
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>>46823761
Now that's just cruel
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So is there no way to invite a friend to a game? I have to try my luck at randomly playing with him?
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>That mission where you have to defend Hand of Darkness.

Is this shit even possible?
The defense target always dies on the 3rd wave. I have seen up to seven chaos ships spawn and attack it.
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>>46823851
i just did the mission anon, rememeber, ram the fuck.

5 light chaos escorts?
5 ram targets
2 larger chaos ships?
2 larger ram targets.
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>>46823851
You have to literally make a protective wall out of your own ships around it. No flying around, just static gunning.
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>missions force you to split your deployment points with computer "allies"

Oh god, this makes easy shit nearly impossible.
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>>46823851
I just did it first go not two minutes ago. I was even using a Dictator.
I stasis bombed the clusters of escorts and let the Retribution tear them apart with its lances while I chased the cruisers and light cruisers liberally applying torpedoes and ramming.
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Any idea of how many planets lost at any one time is good/bad.

I'm on turn 16 with 13planets lost on ironman hard.

I blame the orks.
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Do each of the races get their own campaign or is it just the Imperials?
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>>46823994
Each race did not fight their own Gothic War.
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>planetary assault at the start of act 2
>300 points
>take 2 dauntless light cruisers and a pair of firestorms.
>split my ships to cover ground
>AI takes gothic cruiser and assortment of escorts
>watch as AI escorts get blown to shreds
>AI cruiser takes out a platform and just sort of drifts down the middle, doing nothing
>I boost all over the fucking place to get the bombardment locations, while also killing a few escorts

Then the computer rubs salt in the would and gives half the renown to shitlord spasmodicus.

Oh well, at least the inquisitor babysitting one was fun. It certainly ramps up the difficulty having to put up with daft AI though.

How's everybody else doing? I'm on turn 8 and so far I've only lost one fight, narrowly missing out on killing that Eldar prick.
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>>46823851
Taunt and ram, my friend, taunt and ram
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>SM strike cruiser shows up in missions with space marine allies
Neat.
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>Playing Eldar against IN AI
>Nova Cannon kills 4 hemlocks cause I stopped paying attention for a moment
Don't bunch up if they might have an NC. Gotcha. Lesson learnt.
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>>46823851
You don't have to kill the third wave, just keep it at bay for like a minute and the Retribution will warp out. Doable if you managed to kill the first two waves quickly so the Ret still has a lot of health left. Then just throw some ships either way to throw the incoming waves into dissarray (and ram some escorts to death) and you'll get it done.

>>46824178
Mine brough a Dauntless and an Overlord and actualy did semi-decent job holding down two heretic cruisers while my two cruisers murdered a Hellbringer and a bunch of escorts and defense plattform on a jolly romp between nuking some more heretics off the face of the planet.
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>>46822933
God what are you doing, I have won every match that didn't have eldar as defender in cruiser clash( you can never catch them so they auto win)

Just spam hellbringers, and use assault boats targeting generators.
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>>46824856

Take me a screenshot of your loadout
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so since plasma macro batteries have been changed, is the overlord actually decent or is mars still the greatest
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>>46824856
Or you could just kite at 12ks with all of those wonderful lance weapons.
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i'm not good at this game bros
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>>46825212
What are you having trouble with anon?
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Having too much fun in MP. running around with a buddy both playing orks, hilarity and winning every damn game.
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>>46825232
my ships keep exploding. I have trouble with micro. my feet hurt
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>>46825269
How I feel at least part of the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85t3aLQzTsI
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>>46825269
Stop using a standing desk, put your feet up. Elevate body parts that are in pain or at risk of swelling, that's pretty elementary, anon.
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wHY the fuck don't the weapon tooltips show you the optimal range?
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Anyone got a screenshot of Mark of Tzeetch?

I really don't want to make my Battleship Slaanesh, but it mechanically seems the best, and I can't convince myself to skip optimal things mechanically unless it's aesthetically pleasing

(Wow, the irony)
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>>46825376
I don't know, being able to teleport your battleship halfway across the map seems pretty powerful.
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>>46823358

>Because wouldn't you still need to go forward in the Warp?

Does a piece of corn need engines to move from your mouth, through your stomach, down your intestines and out of your ass?

Does the corn sometimes look intact but sometimes get all mashed in with poo?

That's how warp travel works, sonny.
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>>46825376
Tzeentch honestly looks the best m8

intricate and interesting design without sticking random shit all over the place like the other marks
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>>46825376
Steam community hub screenshot tab is a good place to find picks of the favours.
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>>46825376
>not putting Nurgle on every ship and never being successfully boarded
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Should I save up my points early game or go for a cruiser immediately? Which escorts are best? I like the lance ones.
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>>46825516
If you win every game you won't have to worry about points
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>>46825485
>>46825465

Man that looks good
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>>46825465

>The Especially Angry
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fuck chaos
fuck eldar
I dont enjoy kiting slowly for 10 minutes
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>>46825802
>what is taunt
>what are stasis bombs
>what are torpedoes
>what are gas clouds
>what are asteroid fields
>what is running silent
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>3 boarding runs on a fleeing chaos CL
>none of them succeed

Just fuck my ass Abaddon
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>>46825485
Are those hands?
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>>46825919

>Where we're going we don't need engines to claw through the warp
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>>46824975
The Overlord is decent now IMO, but both it and the Mars cover two rather different niches, so it really depends on your overall fleet composition which one makes more sense.
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>>46824975
I'd still take the Mars first just for that nova to fuck Eldar shit up.
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why the fuck didn't the Imperium invest in turreted warhips?
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>>46826050

You can only fit so many slaves into a gallery.
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Aww, one and a half months till space marines are available.
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>>46826074
Chaos can.

Chaos knows how to get creative with slaves.
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>3rd game, eldar vs eldar
>both have 2 solaris
>I alpha one of his, he taunts and kills one of mine
>we skirt around each other and I'm up about 100 hp
>he rams me, we both explode, "VICTORY"

Eldar confirmed retard race
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>>46826261
>Dying race, every Eldar life is extra precious
>Super advanced
>Puts actual living warriors on their ships instead of fucking automated defense turrets
Yes, yes they are.
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>>46826050

Because everything is done manually in the Imperium.
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>>46826007
Fun thing: With fast-burn torps, it's actually kinda doable to land hits on Eldar. And holofields do nothing to stop melta torps. One good spread and it's pic related.
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Who's the better admiral? Spire? Or Honor Harrington?
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>>46826324
But what does Fire do other than DoT? It seems pretty useless.
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>>46826485
On flimsy eldar ships that DoT makes a big difference
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>>46826050
>didn't the Imperium invest in turreted warhips?
Enforcer-class Light Cruiser is all about turrets.

>>46826007
The Nova Cannon has been so inaccurate lately. Have they upped the dispersion on it?
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>tfw finally understanding how to play Eldar
>tfw annihilating a Chaos fleet without a single causality
At last I truly see.
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>>46826485

the fire can melt smaller ships quickly, especially weak hulled eldar pleasureboats.
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>>46826508

They changed the scattering in the Eldar beta patch, dunno if they rechanged it in the release didn't see anything about it in the release notes.
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>>46826341
They're both arbitrarily excellent in their universes.
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>>46826508
>>46826568
I was expecting the Imp Nova cannon to have better accuracy than the Ork one. I guess the only difference is the lower chance to explode on you.
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>>46826690

The old Nova Cannon accuracy made it a must have in IN navy set ups and it raped in Escort/defense missions where the IN was the attacker, now it's more of gamble but still powerful.
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Which cruiser should I buy for campaign?
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hrmn. is it a good idea to get the cruiser slot right after that sedition and fleet behavior tutorial mission? (the second one)

and what's a good cruiser to shove into the slot? i'm looking at the one with the two small craft bays because i kind of like the idea of carriers but i have no fucking clue how any of them play.
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>convoy mission
>ork ship attempting to ram transport
>use imperial cruiser to ram ork cruiser as it's charging
>weight of imperial cruiser does not throw ork cruiser off course at all
>ork cruiser slams into transport, killing it instantly

Oh silly me, I guess I was unreasonable to expect this game to have simple fucking physics.
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>want to play chaos
>every time I try to upgrade my hellbringer the game freezes
;_;
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>>46826485
It does nothing except a DoT. But three fires will seriously fuck up an eldar cruiser and just fucking melt escorts and light cruisers. They basically ahve to blow their repair ASAP. And then you hit them with the next spread while their repair is still a long time from recharging.
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>>46826939
>Implying you can defeat superior Orkish technology
>Implying Orks use conventional physics
>Being this much of a grot
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>>46826939
It has. Part of it is that it's pretty hard to budge a same-weight ship unless you hit it at a good angle and speed. Scraping along his side in a shallow angle and low speed won't do shit, you wnat to hit him in at lose to 90° and with the engines on All Ahead Full. Do that to a smaller ship and hit retros after impact and you can kick them a good distance.

Also, Ork rams can be dodged pretty reliably by just going AAF or on retros depending on the angle the Orks are coming in.
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>>46826939
>weedy imperial cruiser outmassing an ork cruiser

pssh..nuffink perzonal git!
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>>46827124

>you wnat to hit him in at lose to 90° and with the engines on All Ahead Full.

Yeah no shit, thanks for pointing out the most obvious thing in the world. Too bad I hit him within a deviation of 5 degrees of that at AAF and he just kept heading straight forward as if nothing happened. These convoy missions are garbage and need to be removed from the game.
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How do I stop people from just ramming my fleet away as eldar? mass swords is just impossible to run from
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>>46827240

melt them with pulsars or torpedoes, use stasis bombs if you need it.
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Is it possible to do well in the campaign by focusing on very few cap ships and having shitloads of escorts?
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>>46827240

Pay attention and use skills to run away. Get the 180º instantaneous turn or improve the rotation speed
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>>46827282
>>46827308

Yeah I think I'm gonna put stasis bombs on a ship or two, thanks!
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>>46827231
G I T
U
D
And split up your transports, I bet you're clumping them all up.
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>>46827231
Uh huh. Cool story. More likely you just miseed narrowly and scraped along the side. Hitting a same-class Ork vessel full-on will push him a bit.
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Am I going mad but did they make MWJ disk size fucking massive? Can't do a jump if there's even one escort running around the area.
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>>46827472

Yeah nice job parroting the same bullshit the game tells you in the first convoy mission. Too bad splitting them up doesn't work any better than putting them in a line and burning them straight to the goal. In fact, I've had more success doing that then splitting them up. Try pulling your tongue out of Tindalos' collective ass for a minute and realize a shit mission type when you see it?
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>>46827500

They fucked with it in the release patch, yes.
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>>46827511

sour grapes of the shitter :^)
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>>46827511
What? No. Split up the damn transports, then move them away from the enemy clumps and haul ass. Shit's not hard.
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>>46827586

I have had success splitting up the transports a grand total of once. Meanwhile, by putting them in a line and burning them to the goal on the far side of the map, I can use my Line ships to shield them from fire as well as ramming attempts. The advice they give you in the tutorial is a load of bullshit and you might as well be rolling the dice by doing it.
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>>46827511
Yes, yes, I know it's hard to believe and seems like it doesn't make sense but it's really, truly, pretty effective. Once I started doing that convoy escort missions went from 'utterly impossible' to 'tricky, but actually kinda doable'. Further gitting gud got me up to about a 50% winrate.

Now, you can whine like you belong on a steamforum about how the only game mode should be cruiser clash, OR you can suck it up and git gud like everyone else. It's your choice, nobody can make you do either, and we'll probably mock you no matter what you choose.
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>>46827634

You're not splitting them up into groups of the exact number the enemy needs to kill, are you?

Cause I laugh every time I see someone do that as I burn on one group for an easy win.
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Is this what /v/ is like?
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Do you ever get favors in the campaign?
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>>46827658

the splitting up works just fine, except against eldar and chaos. Bunching up is usually a bad idea against IN or orks due to the availability of Nova Cannons and massed torpedoes, but using your ships as a screen is a pretty good tactic I give ya that.
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>>46827702
>attacking ork convoy
>need to destroy four transports to win
>he splits them up into groups of three
>I choose not to split my ships up though because a lone un-micro'd ship on the far side of the map will get utterly raped by orks
>destroy one group of transports and its defenders and try to race across to the other side of the map to take out the other
>I won't make it in time, he's going to win
>he runs his transports through a fuck huge asteroid field and they all get destroyed
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Can you no longer see unidentified ships on the mini map? Is there a way to get them back?
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>>46822933
Git gud
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>>46827774
I don't know about AI, it might actually just cheat, idk? But against humans, splitting up your ships (and taking a swarm of escorts) is fucking VITAL.

Put down a few escorts here, a few escorts there, a few transports on either wing, and whatever else you want to be creative.

Then imagine your opponent's face when he rushes a single lightcruiser forward to jump your transports... only to discover that's not four transports, that's four swords, and his cruiser is about to have a very short and unpleasant existence.
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>>46827777
ORKZ IZ DA BEST
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>>46827707
nah, some of the people here seem to actualy like the video game being discussed
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So for the Imperium which of the two classes of the battleship available would you say is more user friendly? From what I can tell one is essentially a carrier based around launching attack craft while the other is a traditional battleship with tons of guns. Is one notably better or is it preference, and what ways should I build and upgrade it?
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>>46828013
Also constructive advice. Even if Mohammed here is unwilling to come to the mountain.
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Generally, what is your favourite crew member to upgrade? I find the Navigator is only useful for data/assassination missions.
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>>46826939

You just don't know how WAAAGH correctly
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>just got back from work
>too tired to grind multiplayer

Is the campaign comfy guys? Or do I need to be awake to play it? Haven't read the thread yet.
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>>46827707
/v/ is discussing it as well. It's the most productive discussion I've ever seen on there.
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>>46828034

The carrier is the Emperor class and the gunship is the Retribution class. The Emperor is, like you said, designed to throw out attack craft. But I believe it actually does *more* damage than the Retribution does in gameplay. Idealy, the Retribution should be a monster, but it is not.

Plus doesn't the Emperor get to call in Cobra destroyers every so often?
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>>46828448
/v/ treats 40K threads very well. You get one guy trying to bait about 40K being toys or too grimdark, but everyone already knows that and doesn't care.
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>>46828486
Plasma macros got buffed so Ret might be useful now. Haven't had time to check.
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>sees SM ship in campaign
>now I just want to play SM instead of IN
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>ships have to stop moving in order to warp jump

>but ramming them doesn't prevent a warp jump

Is this some lore fuckery or are the devs just stupid?
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>>46828486
>Plus doesn't the Emperor get to call in Cobra destroyers every so often?
anything with the IN favor equipped
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>>46828731
Devote all power to 'warp' rather than 'thrust'.
Get free thrust? Who cares?
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In the campaign, just unlocked a second cruiser slot. Should I grab a dictator or leave it and wait for better carriers?
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>>46828066
Slaves and crew maybe squadron sergeants but that just my inner /m/fag
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>>46821150
If you're using the Codex crack then yes.
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>>46828935
Yeah except that "free thrust" was at a right angle compared to their jump vector.
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what is best heavy cruiser? I have a Luna, and its okay, but I feel I should have gone with the all macro-cannon with torps option. Nova cannon I want exclusively for my battleship.
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>>46829807
BBs don't get novas.
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>>46829830
>BBs don't get wave-action BFG

Its cause they have something better, right?

rrriiiiiiiiiiiiigggggghhhttt?
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>>46829205
The warp doesn't care. Different reality, different rules.
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>>46829869
Unless there's an Armageddon, no.
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>>46829869

Novas are not that awesome.
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>let's nerf the shit out of the only playable faction in singleplayer just before launch

>what could go wrong?
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>>46829869
8 torpedo tubes.
With Emperor class you get two macro batteries and four launch bays as well as 3 macro turrets.
With Retribution class you get six macro batteries and 3 lance turrets.
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>>46829975
Shit, i forgot that i had a picture of them.
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Whats the best escort choice for the campaign? Torpedo destroyers cause you can slow-mo? maco-cannons to fight off other escorts?
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>>46830008
Yeah, id say so.
Also remember to put the torpedoes on auto launch and then try to command them around in groups of 3, so they can actually shoot their torps.

Also, remember, whenever fighting Eldar, fire melta torpedoes.
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i have no idea what i'm doing when it comes to selecting new ships for this cruiser slot i bought during the campaign. what cruisers are good and what cruisers are shit?
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Is the Dauntless a worst option than Dauntless MkII?
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when can I start t command more than 1 cruiser, 1 light cruiser, and one 1 escort in campaign? Is it something you upgrade as you gain prestige or is it by level?

Also, is there only one proper class of light cruiser?
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>>46830060
Dauntless mk1 has lances, mk2 has torpedoes, pick the one that suits you most.

>>46830054
I went with macro cannons and nova cannon.
But i suppose pretty much anything goes.
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>>46829993
Shouldn't the Emperor-class have more detection rating, given it has the huge amount of sensor-spines sticking from the prow in place of the usual 10-meter thick sheets of adamantium?
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>>46830118
It comes as you gain prestiege.
In other words, blow up more ships.

Yes, Dauntless is the only LC you have.
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>>46830060
I like the Dauntless better. Poking things with lances is pretty good, you don't have to worry about missing like with torpedoes, and the lance upgrades are better for playing it safe than the broadside upgrades are. Brawling with light cruisers is not great.
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>>46829869
Eight torpedoes with the upgrade that makes them travel faster are far more useful than a nova cannon.
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>>46830054
They're all okay, it's just that some of them are a little more straightforward to use.
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>>46830054
Just pick whatever anon. You end up getting four cruiser slots and the ai isn't smart enough to play around the specific ships you take.
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what are the major differences between lances and cannons?
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>>46830172
Lances hvae lower damage and slower firing rates but always hit, ignore armour and have higher crit chances.
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>>46830172

Lances are fucking worthless and Cannons are objectively superior.
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>>46830137
It does, but it's a trait that that screen apparently forgets to take into account.
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So what are the bossfights in the campaign like, anyone reach them yet?
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>>46830172

Lances are better at destroying enemy systems. Macros are for brawling.
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>>46821423
Arent the point of daemonettes that they will take whichever form is the most pleasing to their victim? We all know all bolter bitches are lesbians, maybe one of those in the last stand really likes big butts and cannot lie about it.
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Are there multiple endings according to how many missions you succeed or do you have to succeed in all of them? I take part of the campaign is not canon.
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Lads, I have Orks overrunning the system, lost two (2) games against the pricks, I don't know how. maybe it's me taking Chaos tactics to the Imperials from having played as them in the skirmishes, I'm finding it pretty easy to wipe Eldar.
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>>46830377
sector* rather
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>>46830268
>>46830204
>>46830187
>>46830172

Lances always hit, and only counts 25% of enemy armour. This is awesome if you don't want to get close and brawl. It's pretty nice on lighter cruisers and cruisers that you don't necessarily want to park right next to the enemy, and if you need to kite a lot, or fight ships that are more nimble than you.

Lances do less dps than macro weapons up close, but at long enough range the autohit is better.
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>>46830377
>I don't know how.

I'll tell you how: Because the Imperial Navy faction is a pile of shit after they nerfed it into the ground.
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Are Voss pattern Shield relics from the Great Crusade? I'm thinking of installing them on escorts/transports.
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>>46829973
>>let's nerf the shit out of the only playable faction in singleplayer just before launch
What nerfs? They got heaps of new, cool shit.
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>>46830445
They're just shields made on the Forgeworld Voss Prime I think.
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>>46830445
They're just really shitty shields once made on Voss Prime. The techpriest in charge fucked up and made shittier void shields than the Imperial standard.
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What's the difference between a Widowmakers and Cobra destroyer? Stats are identical except the Cobra has a turret.
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>>46830554
Augury range increase on the Widowmaker.
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>>46830554

Widowmaker are the eyes of the fleet. Longer range sensors.
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>>46830554
>>46830558
>>46830560
Longer range sensors, and they have no way to attack other than with torpedoes. So if you like Eldar micro, you'll like Widowmakers.
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>End cutscene has the admiral putting his hand on Ultima Segmentum before directing the fleet forward

TAU CONFIRMED
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>>46830695
I hope so, the admiral could tech those upstarts a thing or two about void combat.
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>>46830769

>Implying you won't play as Shadowsun herself.
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>>46823153
WAAAGGHHH! Yooz not going fast enough ya stooped grot!
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I'm having troubles installing unreal 4 what do?
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What are the best upgrades fort transports and escorts?
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>>46831070
shields, armour, detection range and 2 weapon upgrades for escorts

Transports its about speed, shield, armour, hidden special manoeuvres and extra combustion gauge
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Please help anons.

I just bought this, it looks amazing but it crashes constantly.

How do I fix?

I have the lastest drivers, I've tried increasing the power to my card, but this is making the game nearly unplayable.
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>>46826939
Newfag. Orks are reality warper.
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So, I'm guessing that Admiral Spire is way less awesome than you can make him and canonically he loses almost every key battle.
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>>46831586

I don't think Spire is in any of the literature, he's a Gary Stu player insert created just for the game.
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>>46831409
I've been running it on medium on an almost 5 years old nvidia card with the fans slightly cranked up with zero crashes for like a month now.

What kind of crash are you getting? Are you playing retail or pirated version?
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what should i be doing with the ordnance craft from the ordnance bays? should i be just all bombers all the time? all boarding craft all the time? just shitting out the larges fighter screen the game can handle?
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>>46831665

High health and need to blow up systems?

Assault Craft.

Otherwise bombers.
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I returned it for now, I was getting some significant bugs in regards to the mouse and enemy AI

>Game deselects my ships immediately after clicking them
>enemy ships fly out of bounds, particuraly during data steal missions then warp out

I'll wait a week or so and hope it gets patched.
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so data theft missions are the fucking worst in the campaign. pretty much everyone is faster than me and just runs the fuck away
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>>46829167
I do but my ships are named from Battlefleet Calixis/Pass Watch Est
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>>46820766
REeeeeeee I suck at this game, recommend me some Imperium ships builds
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>assassination with some space marines
>chaos ship runs to the corner of the map
>we get it down to heavily damaged
>marine ship right in front of it
>it starts warping out
>marine sits back and doesn't ram to stop him
>I was outmaneuvering bombs and didn't have the combustion
>enemy escapes with a sliver of health

Wew the AI allies sometimes.
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So guys, is it worth the 30 britbucks? Big BFG fan back in the day, but I've been burnt one too many times with these games.
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>>46831879
pair up a dominator and a gothic, specialise the dominator in close combat and boarding, and the gothic in lances and support skills.
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>>46831901

It's a pretty faithful adaptation of the TT and it's a solid video game made by people who really like the source material.
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The campaign is incredibly frustrating

(legit spoilers ahead)

You've done incredibly well Admiral! however...

We lost a blackstone fortress... offscreen

uh oh Admiral...

Abaddon blew up a planet... offscreen
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>>46832083
those aren't exactly despoilers

Gothic is a historical scenario. Everyone should know how it goes down.
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>>46829869
Retribution gets 8-tube torp launcher. Emperor has no extra prow armor or any prow weapon, but instead a bigass sensor array giving it 10k detection range.
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>>46829993
Those are old stats btw. Retribution has been buffed to 150 speed since.
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>>46831901
Do you like the idea of playing multiplayer against people, knowing they'll be salty as fuck when you blow up one of their ships and it has to spend the next couple of games on the bench unless they pay points for it?

If yes, the 30 britbucks is a steal, if no, you should play something else.

I think personally that I'll play it enough that 90 britbucks would still have been cheap, I just wish they didn't have micro warp jumps and bombs, they distract so much from the positioning and orders gameplay.
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>>46822419
Let me introduce you to my hero Prokofiev.

https://youtu.be/xyDKezDLGTM
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>>46826939
ITS BIG
ITS RED
ITS OUT OF CONTROL
AN ITS A BUTTON
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>>46831690
>enemy ships fly out of bounds

How do you mean?
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>>46832266

Ships are able to fly outside of map boundaries as part of their maneuvers, you can't issue movement orders outside of the map but if their course takes them beyond the boundaries they won't slam into an invisible wall.

That's intentional
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>>46832246

Excellent taste famalam
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Did the nova get another nerf through increased scatter?
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>>46832246

That put hair on my chest, thanks anon
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>Convoy mission.
>I fail to notice that it is a convoy mission.
>Pick a fuckton of escorts falling to notice the transports among them.
>Win anyway when the enemy fleets capitulates.
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Anyone wanna play some 2v2 matches?
I'm not very good so might need to get carried a little bit
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OK /tg/ what do you think the favors will be for the SM fleet? Maybe different chapters support? What about necrons now they are almost confirmed? Shards from the 4 old c'tans?
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>>46832768
>What about necrons now they are almost confirmed? Shards from the 4 old c'tans?
Newcron dynasties?
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>>46832768

>Still thinking it'll be necrons rather than Tau even though the ending of the campaign points towards them

Tau will obviously get the 4 castes.
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>>46832777
Yeah that was the other option I thought. But seeing they try to stick to older canon ...Who knows.
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>>46832797

Fire Caste: Coldstar with Fusion + Breacher Troops?
Water Caste: Electro-warfare + Spies?
Earth Caste: Repairs + Overcharge Reactor?
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>>46832797
Yeah MC will be lost in warp for almost a millenia
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for the vassel campaign writing my list and trying to figure out what name my tyranid ships
toying with the idea of naming them after abrahamic angels as if codenames maybe.
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>>46832808
I wonder if GW will request them to include Newcron stuff. I have no problem with that I just wonder how much GW is watching what they do with canon.
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>>46832808

Didn't they say that they wanted to introduce ships never seen on the tabletop with permission of GW?
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>>46832843
Kaijus.
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>>46832756
Post steam name ...maybe tomorrow
>>46820766
How to defeat eldar as ork ?
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>>46832808
>But seeing they try to stick to older canon

Damnit you are an idiot. Did you come from, /v/? The C'tan have been sharded. However, many of their shards are free and are still doing stuff.

Nearly EVERYTHING the Deceiver did in 3th ED and 4th ED (during the times of the Oldcron) reappeared in the Newcron fluff as the work of single Deceiver shard or a group of them.

Ergo, The Deceiver you see in the game is a shard.
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>>46832829

You realise the Necrons first started appearing around the same time as the Tau, right? Both were hundreds of years after the Gothic war, Necrons are in no way more likely than Tau.
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>>46832879
Waifu Ted
Think i'm going to play Imperial or Orkz
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>>46832913
>You realise the Necrons first started appearing around the same time as the Tau, right?

Wrong.

The Necrons were active since 30K. 41K only had an acculturation of Necron awakenings.
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I just won an amazing victory against a POONY ELDAR and I don't want to lose my hard earned renown. This must be the works of the Chaos Gods.
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>>46832940

Would there have been ship-to-ship combat against the Necrons before 41k?
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>>46832843
>Sachiel, Shamshel, Ramiel, Gaghiel, Israfel, Sandalphon, Matarael, Sahaquiel, Ireul, , Beliel, Bardiel, Zeruel, Arael, Armisael
>Blood Type Black, it's a Tyranid!
What colour is 'nid blood anyway.
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>>46824421
IA makes them fucking retarded. Doesn't help that their ships can't last long.
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>>46832979
Yes.

But the Necrons would have left no survivors or have retreated before the Imperial knew what was going on. Sometimes the members of Imperium covered up these incidents. The Necrons have been doing their thing for a long time but the Imperium didn't know who they were or what they are until late in 41K.

>899.M41 FEAR HAS A NAME

>Following recovery of the pict-capture footage from Sanctuary 101, a number of Inquisitors come to a chilling realisation. Pooling intelligence from dozens of filed, pending or redacted reports – some of which must be reclaimed at gunpoint from the Administratum – they realise the magnitude of this new threat the Imperium.
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Why are reviews so bad?
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>>46833053

Links?
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>>46833053

"We didn't get paid enough advertising for this game so we're giving this 7.1 and Quantum Break 8.0"
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So what's a good IN Cruiser? I'm thinking the Dominator with the Nova Cannon but I'm not sure.
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>>46832940
acceleration*
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REEEEE FUCKING ELDERS IN THE FIRST MISSION WHERE YOU ENCOUNTER THEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>46833053
?
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>>46832989
usually its depicted as purple.
But it's probably not a set thing knowing tyranids.
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Can you play with a friend? It doesn't appear to be working.
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>>46833253
atm you can only play 2v2 afaik ...if you are talking about 1v1 that is.
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Damn, that game is a factory for awesome moments.
My Mk.2 Dauntlesses ram anything that they can't torpedo to death. I'm so proud of that couple of murdermachines.

On a sidenote, my audio is stuttering and slower than the video in the cutscenes, any idea on what could cause it ?
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>>46832455
Yes.

I've managed to kill 1 ship with them since launch, and that was a stasis'd Dauntless with 1 HP left.
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Played my first multiplayer match. Got rekt by an Ork, but holy shit it can be tense.
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>>46830349
From what I've read, I think there's only one ending but the way you get there is different.
Canonically you ally with the Eldar to fight Chaos but if you do well enough you kill them instead.
If you fucked up enough missions then you will ally with them.
And likewise some boss like the Terminus Est only appears if you do very well.
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Is the Tyrant doing good now that the plasma batteries are buffed or should I stick with the dominator?
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https://youtu.be/M3w3XeHpsis
The launch trailer is fucking sick
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>tfw can't get the intel from the chaos ship in the 4th mission


He keeps fucking warping away before I can even get to him.

What am I doing wrong?
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So this is literally the best GW adaptation ever put into vidya huh.

How the fuck did that happen?
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>>46833663

the secret ingredient is love
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>>46833663
>>46833672
this. love and care is what makes a good 40k game. dow 1, for example, is actually a pretty shitty rts if you look at it from an objective point of view. but it has so much love of the lore and franchise put into it that you can literally not care about any of that. its the same here, except the game actually feels good to play as well.
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>>46833663
Is Deathwing still happening?
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>>46833687
I think this being a side of 40k people often aren't exposed to helps as well.
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What are the difference between standard macro cannon and plasma macro cannon? Damage and range?
Can't decide between the Dominator or the Tyrant as my first cruiser.
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>>46832920
Jeez Ted. From psyker to waifu? Seems like kind of a downgrade.
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Are Chaos Missile Pod turrets affected by Macro-cannon upgrades (for Chaos Escorts in particular)?
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>>46833691
Vaporware. The studio is still looking for leading animators and mapmakers and such.
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>>46833832

Yes, they are counted as Macro-Cannons.
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>>46833721

In terms of pure DPS, the Dominator outguns the Tyrant at close-range (where Macro-Cannons should be). However, the Tyrant has better long-range firepower.

More importantly, however, the Tyrant is IMHO a better brawler because of its torpedoes and ramming spur. Once you get to brawling range, a Nova Cannon is useless unless you want to take potshots at a more distant enemy, and even then accuracy has been so nerfed that you'll be lucky to hit anything.

By contrast, you can launch torpedoes VERY frequently and pretty much at any range not only for damage, but also for map control and funnelling. Hit someone with a full-spread of torps and follow it up with a power ram-buffed thrust and you could easily knock even an Ork cruiser down to critical.
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>>46833977
Thanks, going for a Tyrant then.
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Is this game worth it?
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>>46830225
Just fought the Tzeentch champion ship, the something something sacrilege.

How they apparently work is that they appear on a random mission (its told you before hand which mission) and as the flagship, it gives all the ships it has with it on that mission the favor of its god.
In other words, Tzeentch fight was full of clouds.
And Nurgle fight is going to be a fucking nightmare where i gotta run away fro mthose ships, because they sure as fuck are gonna try and ram me.
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>>46833687
No Dow is pretty shit desu, just high budget.

But then I admit my tastes are more towards Tbs and non base building rts games
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>>46833359
Did someone say ramming?
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>>46834137
>Chaos slut gets pounded by two huge Imperial prows
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>>46834137
Anon, that's beautiful.
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>>46832879
Early ork is pretty garbage and hard to deal with some of the more maneuverable fleets, eldar and chaos. Best think to do is rush a trakktor beam and hide in nebulas. But once you get up and close with the eldar, or God forbid you land a ram their ship is toast. Later on I would also suggest picking up the bad moons for long distance lightning strikes through shields to disable engines and grab a light cruiser for a carrier ship. Right now I think chaos is actually your worst match up early on cause they can still brawl a little and escape, while if you can get next to the eldar he's dead if you can land a successful lightning strike. Use taunts to stop maneuvers, and WAAAAAGH for the extra assault actions cause you need them. Also scrap torpedoes cause most of the time you'll want the front shooting gun for brawls so you don't have to swing from your ship around to land your rams. As well as the more maneuverable factions can easily dodge your torpedoes. This is all just one way to deal with them the orks probably have the most versatile fleet in the game due to the customization options on your ships as well as all the favors for orks are good and server a purpose, be it long range engagements or getting the enemy within striking distance.
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>>46833505
You were too slow.
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>>46833505

Blow the ship into oblivion. Much simpler than boarding and then warping out. Only board when he attempts to warp out.
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>>46833977
Does the tyrant now outgun the gothic tho?
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Anyone else can't use skills? My entire fleet was torpedo based so I was kinda stumped when I couldn't use any of them in a match.
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>>46834417
Had the same issue for a match yesterday. Couldnt use anything.

Still purged some heretics
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>>46834429
Same here. Was playing with a friend and we were both Imperials facing an Eldar and an Ork. We managed to win by ramming the everloving fuck out of the bastards.
>Lose my Cruiser early on
>my Light Cruiser died when ramming
>manage to kill the Eldar Cruiser with a Cobra Escort by ramming him over and over again until it died
Showing those Eldar pansies who's the boss felt good.
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Does the belt armour upgrade actually work? I've put it on my brawling ships and they still lose modules on the first hit.
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>>46821660
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94dY-QxjDiE
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>>46834602
I'm having issues with eldar desu. Not sure what do do when facing them. Bombs and torps are dodged macros and lances are made inconsistent by holofields. Lightning striking works and slows them down if RNGesus is with you and that seems to be the only hard counter to them.

There was a 2v2 yesterday that we 2 IN against a chaos player and an Eldar. The synergy was real. The chaos guy held back and kited and provided a safe zone for the eldar guy to hide in in-between runs. If you chased the eldar the some nurgle ships were waiting to stop you.

I'm not even salty about losing that one, it was poetry in motion.
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>>46834137
Glorious.
I go out of my way to ram things, even if it destroys ships. It's just too damn fun. It's my goal to ram the same target from both sides simultaneously.
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>>46834760
Oooh, good choice.
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>>46834784
I dunno, really. They're hard to counter. Nova Cannon is good against them, especially if you actually manage to hit one. Other than that, try and funnel them towards you or into a wall with torpedos.
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>>46834785
Mine is to actually nail any kind of enemy cruiser or smaller vessel into the prow of my Retribution class. Bonus points if Eldar
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going up against eldar/chaos as a low level IN admiral fucking blows. no abilities to keep them in check while they pin you down from 12k away or spam bombers like madmen.
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New thread when?
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>>46820766
New bread

>>46835164
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>>46834137

>you two, dance like you want to win!
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>>46833947
They aren't macro-cannons, but macro-weapons. Which is a category of weapon that includes basically everything that isn't ordnance (fighters, torpedoes, bombers, assault boats, mines) or lances.

It doesn't matter if they shoot rockets, missiles, shot, shell, or plasma bolt. Game purpose they're all the same.
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>>46835752
...do nova cannons count as macro weapons for accuracy purposes?
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>>46833101
Dominator has suffered a lot from the Nova nerf, but is still good. Tyrant post-plasma macro buff is actually pretty damn good. Lunar is great as a basic all-round lineholder, just spec it defensively. Gothic is anice fire support for other lineships, but kinda meh by itself. Dictator is your cheapest carrier and can be useful, but is overall perhaps the most niche ship in the cruiser lineup.

Also, both torpedoes and novacannons work best en masse, so if you go for novas, try getting several. I'd not take a Dominator without at least one more Dominator or a Mars around. Mars is useful by iself with the long-range lances and ordnance bays for like 25 more points than a Dictator though.
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