Board Games General /bgg/ - Non-weeaboo Edition

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>Non-weeaboo Edition

But we're all weaboo's here.

why do people who hate anime come to an anime site? I don't give a fuck if you don't care about anime, but it's absurd to come here if you actively dislike it

do you also go to gay bars to tell the homos that they're going to burn in eternal hellfire?

>Making a new thread while the current one hasn't even started autosaging, all because of how butthurt you are

For shame.

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>>46833289
>>what's a mechanic you hate and instantly turns you off a game?

Attack resolution dice. It's not 1970 anymore and there is no fucking excuse for this dogshit mechanic to still exist.

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>>46833289
>>what are some games you're hyped for at the moment?

Android: Mainframe. I heard it described as being like Onitama Go and got interested.

>>46833289
>there's this game you're really hyped for
nope, I don't usually hype over board games. I'm hype over buying a new car soon, but thats unrelated.

>what are your most recent purchases and how do you like them?
most recent was a game called FRAG, I enjoy it.

>what are your worst cases of buyer's remorse and why?
Warmachine, nobody around really wants to play it.

>what would you really, really like to play with your group but haven't gotten the chance yet for whatever reason?
a full run through Decent, but my group flakes harder than a baboon with dandruff so we never get past mission 4
that, or Kingdom death(see above reason also because expensive as balls)

>what do you play regularly?
catan, ticket to ride, so regularly that we keep track of wins/losses on an Excel document

>what's something memorable that's happened while you were playing? be it awesome or shitty or funny or intense or thatguy-related
2-round kill on Cthulhu in arkham horror. we rolled ALL OF THE SIXES...

>what's your favorite Cosmic Encounter alien?
cheaters

>what color do you try to always play?
whenever available, I play with green pieces...

>what's a mechanic you hate and instantly turns you off a game?
have yet to find one

>what 5 games would you bring to convince a nongamer of how awesome board games can be?
Ticket to Ride, Catan, Pandemic, Strain, Eldritch Horror.

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>>46833289
>>what are your worst cases of buyer's remorse and why?

Formula D
Merchants & Marauders

>there's this game you're really hyped for until you find something out about it - what's the worst dealbreaker for you that kills your hype instantly?
The realization that no one I know will want to play that kind of game.

>what are some games you're hyped for at the moment?
Xenoshyft Dreadmire atm. I'm also considering backing Dark Souls.

>what are your most recent purchases and how do you like them?
Battlecruisers and Good Cop, Bad Cop. GCBC is great fun, haven't played Battlecruisers yet.

>what are your worst cases of buyer's remorse and why?
Space Alert. The game just doesn't fit well with anyone that I play with. Should have done my research.

>what would you really, really like to play with your group but haven't gotten the chance yet for whatever reason?
Roll for the Galaxy

>what do you play regularly?
Blood Rage and Sushi-Go.

>what's something memorable that's happened while you were playing? be it awesome or shitty or funny or intense or thatguy-related
In the last turns of a Game of Thrones game there was a flurry of backstabbing and madness that ended up not changing anyone's rankings. Everyone just moved down in the same order, it was hilarious.

>what's your favorite Cosmic Encounter alien?
Never played. It's on my list to potentially add to my collection though.

>what color do you try to always play?
Green

>what's a mechanic you hate and instantly turns you off a game?
Werewolf/Mafia type games where players get taken out too fast.

>what's a game you didn't expect much from but really won you over?
King of Tokyo

>what 5 games would you bring to convince a nongamer of how awesome board games can be?
Pandemic, King of Tokyo, Blood Rage, Flashpoint, and Game of Thrones.

>what are your top 3 all-time favorite games and why?
I really haven't played many games. But Pandemic, King of Tokyo, and Blood Rage are lots of fun.

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>>46833289
Man, people get really easily ass-blasted about what they do or don`t want in their /bgg/

>no literal generals for the board game general
>no anime girls that are still on topic
>no /d/ tier discussion when do you catan is brought up almost every therad, and /tg/ is known for being able to talk about anything

makes me sad, family

>there's this game you're really hyped for until you find something out about it - what's the worst dealbreaker for you that kills your hype instantly?

kickstarter


>what are some games you're hyped for at the moment?

none, I am playing very fun games atm, and could use some mroe sessions of those

>what are your most recent purchases and how do you like them?

I didn't pay a dime, and it was ordered in october, but i got twilight struggle on wednesday, and it has been a blast. just waiting for a day with enough free time to rope my wife into it.

>all these questions
>blowing your load this early

nah, I think I will pass.

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>>46833494

Both GLORIOUS looking games with bright colors and tons of beautiful custom components...

which play like dogshit.
Formula D is a thinly veiled roll & move. There's kinda no game in the game.

Merchants & Marauders is... I don't even know. Somehow it just manages to be totally disinteresting and unfun. It bogs down in minutia and it takes godamn forever to close out a game.

>>46833078
Mysterium: Yay or nay?

My group likes Dixit, so i wanted to get a game that's similar but different.

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>>46833494
>merchants and marauders

Are you the person that keeps crying foul on that game, without ever giving a reason? Some anon keeps doing that; the not knowing why has been more triggering than my disagreement for some stupid reason.

>>46833554
Mysterium is awesome if you want a casual co-op deduction game. I've never found a group of people, casual or otherwise, that didn't like it.

>>46833392
Atleast he actually made the thread though, so points for putting effort into the act of hating I suppose. Not that it would stop anyone from animeposting to spite him.

Speaking of which, anyone have any news on Quickstart!! volume 3? Just a hint to the translators is enough.

And to stay on topic

>>46833289
>what are your most recent purchases and how do you like them?
Got Cthulhu Realms and Blueprints, and unfortunately both are a tad too fiddly to play with a 60+ year old. Looking forward to actually playing it in the future though. Also, the amount of dice in Blueprints made me look forward to Roll for the Galaxy even more.

>what color do you try to always play?
Purple, whenever it pops up.

>>46833554
Try before you buy if you can, opinions are varied especially when playing as the ghost, some say it's dull, some say it's stressful. Potentially hilarious if you don't take "what the fuck was that clue" questions too seriously. An alternative would be Deception in Hong Kong(?), where the ghost (forensic investigator) needs to point at evidence to solve the crime.

>>46833634
>Atleast he actually made the thread though, so points for putting effort into the act of hating I suppose.

What is wrong with you.

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>>46833647
>posted >>46769628
>he actually did it
>can't complain anymore

>>46833289
>there's this game you're really hyped for until you find something out about it - what's the worst dealbreaker for you that kills your hype instantly?
Kickstarter exclusives.

>what are some games you're hyped for at the moment?
Tentatively hyped for Welcome to Centerville and Pendragon, don't keep up much with upcoming releases that aren't GMT.

>what are your most recent purchases and how do you like them?
Pax Baltica, haven't found opportunity to play it yet, but from the rules it seems solid.

>what are your worst cases of buyer's remorse and why?
Game of Thrones boardgame (1st edition).

>what would you really, really like to play with your group but haven't gotten the chance yet for whatever reason?
Here I Stand.

>what's a mechanic you hate and instantly turns you off a game?
Movement by diceroll.

>what's a game you didn't expect much from but really won you over?
Chaos in the Old World.

>what 5 games would you bring to convince a nongamer of how awesome board games can be?
I honestly have no idea.

>what are your top 3 all-time favorite games and why?
Triumph&Tragedy
Dominant Species
Twilight Struggle

>>46833619
Yeah that's what I'm going for. I'm started to dive into the more complex games but my group is still pretty casual. Didn't want anything too complex because it'll turn them all off.

>>46833634
I've heard of that game but haven't really researched a lot about it. I'll check it out.

>>46833577

Dunno. Possibly?

I think the Merchants & Marauders just tries to do too many things and they all fall a bit short of being interesting by themselves. The decisions you make are always pretty easy and straight-forward.

It also overstays it's welcome. It's not a "heavy' game by any means, but it takes as long to play as a much heavier game because you need a shitload of VPs to win, and it's really pretty easy for other players to slow you down or play kingmaker.

On top of all of that, there's quite a bit of downtime while you dick around with NPC ships and card decks and whatnot.

It's just not a very fun way to spend three hours.

>>46833409
>Attack resolution dice. It's not 1970 anymore and there is no fucking excuse for this dogshit mechanic to still exist.

OK, which system do you prefer then?

>>46833726
That sounds reasonable as fuck. I guess because I only play once or twice every couple of years, it always feels fresh, and I several games have been very tight affairs.

Cannot imagine it with the expansion though. It has plenty of stuff going on as is.

>>46833714
That doesn't explain what is wrong with you.
Encouraging spiteposting is almost as bad as spiteposting itself.

>>46833801

It depends on the game...
But honestly? Literally anything is preferable.

>>46833888
even rock paper scissors?

>>46833888
>trips
I was actually in the same camp as you, however then I got pretty worked up for Triumph&Tragedy for some reason, tried it, and the whole dice battle resolution thing actually works fine imo. I'd assume the it's the same for other well designed wargames.

>>46833813

Thinking about the last time I played, there's also a lot of times you just... skip your turn because RNG says so.

Spot dice not working out? Skip your turn.
NPCs in the wrong place? Skip your turn.
Bad weather? Skip your turn.
Pull the wrong commodities? Skip your turn.

There's so much of that...
and I can't think of anything more boring than having my turn skipped.

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>>46833901

Yes, even RPS.

>>46833925

Try a card-driven wargame like Sekigahara. You'll never look back. Dice are shit. They've always been shit, will always be shit.

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>>46833289
>Dealbreaker?
Kickstarter exclusives.

>Hyped for?
Mare Nostrum, maybe Santorini. Not a lot on my radar at the moment.

>Recent purchases?
More Netrunner, which is still more fun than it has any right to be, and Archaeology, because I needed a non-bluffing game filler. Pretty happy with it.

>Buyer's remorse?
Eh. . . Maybe Dominion? I'd just rather be playing thunderstone or arctic scavengers if I absolutely have to play a deckbuilder.

>Want to play with your group but haven't?
Four player Star Trek: Fleet Captains.

>What do you play regularly?
Netrunner, these days.

>Something memorable?
Crown Royale-infused Irish Weeb returning to game night from a snack run with a Jack-In-the-Box Brunch Burger in each hand and no shirt. Much undulating and yelling ensued. At least he stayed off the table.

>What's your favorite Cosmic Encounter alien?
Been a while since we've played CE, but probably still the Trickster.

>What color do you try to always play?
Purple or Red.

>What's a mechanic you hate and instantly turns you off a game?
Not a big fan of drafting, but I'll put up with almost any mechanic if it's used in an interesting way.

>What's a game you didn't expect much from but really won you over?
Not a thing that happens to me a lot since I'm the primary game owner/buyer for my group, but Codenames has been a significantly bigger hit than I was expecting.

>What 5 games would you bring to convince a nongamer of how awesome board games can be?
>Sheriff of Nottingham
>King of Tokyo
>Cosmic Encounter
>Codenames
>Kemet
Feels like a decent starter list today.

>Top 3?
Twilight Imperium for groups
Netrunner for 1v1
Chaosmos because a top3 should include something unusual.

>>46828858
Sounds promising, where'd you hear about it?

>>46833467
I swear, I played this game on pieces of paper as a child. So not hyped.

>>46833554
Nay, like Deception: Murder in Hong Kong WAY better.

>>46834007
>Four player Star Trek: Fleet Captains.

That sounds fucking amazing.

>13 questions in the OP
I'll pass on the severe autism, thanks

>>46833519
that's a pretty cool flier

>>46834007
>I swear, I played this game on pieces of paper as a child. So not hyped.

It's nothing like the box game.

You know how people always talk about shape in Go? Mainframe is a game where you get to play a shape all at once, but the shapes you can play are determined by the cards available.

There's a lot of other crazy stuff going on too. I wasn't looking forward to it at all until I read the rulebook.

>>46834053
I want to believe.

>>46834132
I'll take your word for it, that doesn't sound too terrible. Come back with some thoughts once you've got some plays under your belt.

>>46834007
>Sounds promising, where'd you hear about it?
Different anon, but I saw it here, jump to 4:55

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB9wVb16C5I

>>46834603
>blind booster packs
aaaand dropped

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>>46834889
>>46834433
>@potato
One of my co-workers thinks they're funny.

>>46833341
I don't like anime.
I do think some people who like anime are akin to pedophiles. Specifically, images like the OP in the last general are essentially child porn.

I have friends who like anime, but to my knowledge it's mostly harmless stuff. They probably get off to hentai too, but there's nothing wrong with that so long as it isn't a child in a swimsuit. I do think it shows weakness of character to be an anime fan though.

So why am I here? Because I don't care. I wasn't one of the ones who complained, I'm obviously used to it. Granted, I usually frequent boards that rarely have anime. Also 4chan is a great place to browse memes making fun of anime and its fans that I can share with my friends.

I can see why someone would try to shout down an anime fan who tries to bring it to /bgg/. Basically, all opinions of taste go out the window, especially with regard to a social activity like board games. Nothing personal, I might say different if I knew you personally.

>>46833634
>>46834007
Deception looks great, thanks for the suggestions! I watched and read several reviews about it and I'm confident that I'd personally like it more than Mysterium.

I'm not completely sold on getting it yet though because my regular gaming group is pretty small (max 4 total, typically only 2-3 are free). Also Deception seems to be best with more players to include the Witness and Accomplice roles.

>>46834007
>Santorini

What's it like?

>>46835111
>I do think some people who like anime are akin to pedophiles. Specifically, images like the OP in the last general are essentially child porn.

You seriously need to shut up.
No, really. The fact that you don't understand how retarded you are, and how retarded your entire post is, makes it clear that you don't have any clue when you are supposed to shut up.

Right now? Shut up. That's really it. I don't want to have to go through the long process of educating you until you reach the level of basic human intelligence, all just so you can ignore it and continue to be the absolute idiot that you are, so I'm just going to give you the advice that you desperately, desperately need.

Stop making a fool of yourself, and shut the fuck up.

>>46835296
The witness and accomplice are fun, but the game doesn't suffer at all from their exclusion.

>>46835308
Only been playing with proxy components and no player powers, but it feels like it's got pretty good legs for a light abstract with puzzle elements. Poke around on the kickstarter they've got up right now if you're interested. Price point for the new edition is a little high due to expensive components, but honestly it's a pretty easy game to proxy with just a set of checkers pieces and a few chess pawns.

>>46835111
>being this insane

You need to off yourself quick.

I don't even get hype about new games these days - cult of the new just pisses me off. Also, I don't give a shit about what colour I'm playing as, and I've never played Cosmic Encounter.
>what are your most recent purchases and how do you like them?
The new Star Wars Monopoly, but I haven't played it yet.
>what are your worst cases of buyer's remorse and why?
Ponte Vecchio - great boxart, fucking awful mechanics
>what would you really, really like to play with your group but haven't gotten the chance yet for whatever reason?
80% of my collection
>what do you play regularly?
My groups tend to mix things up a bit
>what's something memorable that's happened while you were playing? be it awesome or shitty or funny or intense or thatguy-related
Playing One Night Ultimate Werewolf, while one guy does absolutely hilarious announcing
>what's a mechanic you hate and instantly turns you off a game?
Stock market shit
>what's a game you didn't expect much from but really won you over?
I had a surprising amount of fun with the Portal board game last night
>what 5 games would you bring to convince a nongamer of how awesome board games can be?
Carcassonne, Ankh Morpork, ONUW, Word Whimsy, Gemblo
>what are your top 3 all-time favorite games and why?
Ankh Morpork, ONUW aaaaaand... let's say Viticulture

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Is the game in the bottom right an actual game?

>most recent purchases?
Chaos in the Old World - pretty nice. Needs more plays to say anything against it. I don't like the dice mechanic for combat resolution ut apart from that everything seems suerb.
>worst cases of buyer's remorse?
This question and remembering I own Munchkin.
>haven't gotten the chance yet?
Any game on a deep level. Something deep war game.
>play regularly?
StarCraft (once per week)
Welcome to the Dungeon - almost at each meeting
Dominion, Ghost Stories, Imperial Settlers - probably hits the table every month
>what's something memorable that's happened
That Guy™ won Kemet by hiding his VPs and then doing a surprised "oh gosh looks like I won". Frustrating to the extreme.
>mechanic
Over reliance on dice in a otherwise deep game. My biggest complaint against CitoW.
>didn't expect much from?
I guess the only one that fits the bill was Welcome to the Dungeon. All the other games I tried to watch a couple of reviews and read the manual before buying so I knew what to expect. I bought WttD on a whim when somebody here recommended me a filler game.
>top 3 all-time games?
StarCraft - strategy, tactics and theme
Neuroshima - very fun in your-face tactical game. "Modern chess"
Ghost Stories - losing is fun
>meta
Jesus fucking christ your questions contain 900 chars and there's 13 of them. Learn some restraint.

>>46835687

Looks familiar, but I can't put my finger on the title.
Some kind of abstract from a while back.

>>46835687
looks like Thud! but without the center stone.

small dwarfs and big trolls,

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>>what are some games you're hyped for at the moment?

SeaFall Legacy

>>46835875
>implying you have to answer all of them

>>46836115
> implying I did
> implying that's still not stupid

>>46836064
It definitely looks like some sort of Tafl game.

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>what are some games you're hyped for at the moment?

Star Trek: Ascendancy is looking great.

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Are there any board games based on an anime?

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>>46836396
Does pokemon master trainer count?

>>46833519
>Man, people get really easily ass-blasted about what they do or don`t want in their /bgg/
Some trip was also butthurt about using silly games like monopoly or children's games.

You can't please all people but you can't pleasy any bgg-er it seems.

>>46836478
Was this the one that had an app version release recently? I think I remember seeing a board gameish Pokemon release somewhere.

>>46836396
Coming out later this year is an Attack of Titan game, where one player is the titan and the other(s) are trying to kill it. Uses a 3d titan and buildings you climb to get up to it's neck and strike at it. Not sure it'll be any good since it's Cryptozoic, but it's designed by Bauza/Maublanc who have done a lot of great games individually and the last time they collaborated did Rampage/Terror in Meeple City.

>>46835385
>shut up
Hey man, I usually do. Why rattle the hornet's nest right? But someone clearly wanted to know, and not just meme about normies. I gave an honest response. I don't expect much discussion about it, and I'm not asking you to change your behavior because of it. Just know that there are all kinds of people on this board.
>>46835442
>insane
True, but not because of my values and beliefs. That part of me is pretty normative

>>46833289
>there's this game you're really hyped for until you find something out about it - what's the worst dealbreaker for you that kills your hype instantly?
Anything that bothers me rulewise.

>what are some games you're hyped for at the moment?
None really, I am interested in the Conan game by Monolith though. Since it is kickstarter, I am quite sceptical though.

>what are your worst cases of buyer's remorse and why?
Arkham Horror + Dunwich Horror. After one/two playthrough(s) you will see through it. It is far to easy to see through it.

>what's a mechanic you hate and instantly turns you off a game?
"Strict" roll movement (think monopoly).

>>46836396

Well there's that Naruto game that's apparently "not bad". Eric Lang also made some DBZ games when he started designing for Fantasy Flight Games, apparently they're all shyte.

I've seen a few One Piece games in France, from what I can gather, they're pretty shit too.

>>46836895
Please shut up forever. Your "views" are just you being stupid, your "beliefs" are just you being retarded and making assumptions based around prejudices, and you might as well run away to a different site if you actually think that anyone with any sense will ever treat your opinions like anything other than an idiot mindlessly trying to justify their stupidity.

I don't think I've conveyed how backwards and empty your mind is, so I think it's also necessary to call you a dummy and an idiot once more. Trust me. When someone tells you to shut up, you personally, you should take the hint and stop assuming that there's anything except dust and lint in your skull and just keep your mouth closed.

>>46837911
That's a good argument there. Very convincing.

>>46837959
There's no need for argument. You are just that stupid. You get upset when you see anime girls. You think there's something wrong with liking anime.

You are basically too stupid to hold a conversation. So, do the world a favor, and don't show off just how retarded you are. Keep your ignorance to yourself, and never speak.

Understand? Of course not, so here's the tl;dr.

Shut up. Not an argument, just advice so you stop making yourself look like such a moron.

>>46837993
lawl, I'm not even the same person as the previous guy you're railing against. I think it's time for angsty baby to go take a nap, you'll feel better when you wake up.

>>46838044
What part of "Shut up" is hard to understand?
Is it not literal enough for your autism?
"Stop posting."

>>46838075
Maybe if I'll keep posting your blood pressure will spike and you'll stroke out. That would be a win right?

>>46833470
>so regularly that we keep track of wins/losses on an Excel document
for what pvrpose

>>46833289
>hypekiller
Published by a company on my "do not buy" list. Unfortunately it gets longer all the time
>hype atm
Great Western Trail, Mr. Pfister is on pfire
>most recent purchase
Suburbia on clearance last week, still haven't gotten it played because I didn't have time to pack my bag for game night
>worst buyer's remorse
City Council, shit rulebook makes it unplayable
>would really like to play with my group
any Vital Lacerda or similar weight game with my longtime MtG friends. I want to melt their brains so bad. Also MegaCiv with my game group would be cool
>play regularly
Innovation, it's basically a game night ritual now
>memorable event
Too many to list, but I miss the trademark "no wait fuck you" followed by slapping down some hate card, which friend #1 used to pull on friend #2 EVERY SINGLE GAME and then come up with some weak-ass reasoning when friend #2 calls bullshit
>fave CE alien
Haven't played in too long. Really like Gambler, Loser, Calculator, shit like that
>color
Purple or green
>shitty mechanic
DICE COMBAT, especially one that takes 6+ rolls per turn
>surprise winner
New York 1901, turns out TtR+Blokus is awesome

>>46838125
yes, it would be a win for the rest of us as well

on the other hand that butthurt weeaboo keeps bumping a traditionally slow general, so there's that

>>46837993
Do you know how I know you have autism?

>>46837993
>you get upset
Not really.
>you think there's something wrong with liking anime
I mean, I think it shows weakness of character as I said, but we all have weaknesses. There's nothing more wrong with you than me for having a weird interest. "Discard opinions of those who like anime" may be a little harsh. Admittedly my interests are Western-centric. But even if you and I tried to find common ground, we likely wouldn't find much. As I said I have friends who like anime, but I think all their tastes in music, movies, books, etc are a little "high school." They're great guys though.

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How have I never heard of this before today.

>>46838232

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>>46836396
There's like 20 Sailor Moon board games alone.

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>>46838725

Apparently because people living in major cities in Japan often don't have a lot of storage space, Japan is known for releasing a lot of game in itty bitty boxes?

Is this true? What Japanese games (they don't have to be animu themed but I also don't mind if they are) would you recommend?

Genuinely curious.

Additionally, weebing up thread for OP.

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>>46838588
>I mean, I think it shows weakness of character
I was kind of wondering if you were just going to reveal that you're just a really try-hard troll, but to do so by insisting on this point is the part where I'm going to have to agree and say that you probably need to keep your "opinions" to yourself.

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Why didn't anyone tell me this game was so great? Apologies to the people who did.

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>>46838747
My niggaverse

>>46839138

Knizia delivers.

>>46839138
>>46839207
What's so good about it? What kind of game is it?

Also, those of you who are making you're own version of Onitama, what are you using to make it?

>>46839334


If you want to go ultra-cheap you can just inkjet your cards on normal crappy paper and put them in sleeves with some slightly thicker tagboard or whatever for rigidity. There are a number of popular choices for having custom cards printed, but including them in my post triggers the anti-spam widget so you'll have to google.

The board and pieces are dead simple. Use whatever you like.

>>46836323
Since I own Fleet Captains, I was pretty skeptical of Ascendancy's value to me.
Previews are rapidly changing that perception.

>>46839334
It takes less than five minutes to explain the game. Incredibly simple in that regard.

But, it's got a lot of strategy to it that relies on being able to assess rapidly changing conditions and evaluating risk/vs. reward, recognizing and countering your opponent's strategies, and there's even a degree of diplomacy in larger games.

You roll dice to try to complete objectives on different castle cards in order to capture them (for example, for Kitanosho, you need to roll either a helmet, a bow and a horse, or total of six swords with your initial seven dice, and then you have to roll to complete a second objective with the remaining dice, and than the third objective with whatever dice remain. Each time you fail to meet one of the objectives, you lose a die, and you keep rolling until you capture the castle or have no dice left), and you can also try to capture your opponent's already claimed castles by accomplishing an additional dice roll objective. The goal is to capture a certain amount of points worth of castles.

The more difficult to capture castles are worth more points, and if you capture all the castles of a certain color, your opponents cannot capture any of those from you and you get a additional points for completing the set.

It's fast paced and really exciting, especially when you're down to your last few dice and trying to capture a difficult and sought-after castle before your opponents do.

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>>46833289
>>what do you play regularly?
Honestly Settlers

But I try and play ECLIPSE every few months

Genuinely the greatest board game I've ever played. Can't wait to buy the expansion

My only quam is the time you need to invest into it before games run smoothly

My friends aren't always down for a 4 hour game and since there is usually one new player every time we play, it always takes 4 hours. Theres also never enough table space but w.e

>>46839996
>expanding directly away from interacting with the other players
Oh look, it's the absolute worst thing about the game made, manifest in .jpg form.

I mean, good on you for enjoying it, but any time a game directly incentivizes avoiding player interation, something weird is going on.

>>46838610
Is this tacky chess?

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Guys I got a package today.

>>46840268
Dude, do you like in an area where there's wild rancors or something?

>>46840078
lol this is also why one of my friends doesn't exactly enjoy it.

But I think it just encourages the "multiple paths to victory" aspect, paired with the idea that different races have advantages in different parts of space for example :

Plant people - tier 3
Ancient-energy people - inner tiers
Hegamony - the tier that your opponent resides in

Plus if you want to be aggressive you can just bust through the center piece, which can be done mid-game in the non expansion version

>>46836396
There's a Lupin III board game, but the rulebook is pretty shit. There's a second version of it online, though.
>>46838994
Love Letter and Shadow Hunters. I have Tragedy Looper, but I still haven't gotten round to playing it yet.

>>46838994
That's partially why. The other reason is that Japanese publishers aren't big enough for worldwide distribution yet, so getting the big games over here is very expensive. Also, Hanafuda's influence on the Japanese market is such that card games are still the most popular. Some people say it's because of "Japanese simplicity" or some shit but that's just prejudiced imo.

I like Oink Games' stuff, especially In A Grove and Deep Sea Adventure. R is a good Keji Kenai 2p game though the best version has shit cardstock quality so you might as well print it yourself. I've been trying to get my hands on Vampire Radar for a while but it's very expensive to ship to the US

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>>46836396
not played it
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/80858/peddling-and-trust

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>>46833409
Just for Anon...

>>46840268

Storytime ?

>>46840268
Was the delivery guy killed too?

>>46833289
>>what kills your hype instantly?
A swift kick to the groin? And games with horrible rules editing.

>>what are some games you're hyped for at the moment?

I'm wanting to get the 'Nemo' game once it's released. Otherwise not a lot right now.

>>what are your most recent purchases and how do you like them?

Code Names, Mission Red Planet, and Fury of Dracula. Haven't had a chance to play them yet.

>>what are your worst cases of buyer's remorse and why?

Probably getting into the MTG 'CCG' rat-race. Fortunately I stopped years ago, and held onto my cards long enough that some of them were worth big $$$$ when I finally traded them in.

>>what would you really, really like to play with your group but haven't gotten the chance yet for whatever reason?

More of my 4x collection.

>>what do you play regularly?

Light, and mid-weight games.

>>what's something memorable?

We're gaming at a friend's house around a nice old antique dining table. We're in the middle of a game and there's this startlingly loud 'POP!' sound. We look around and the host has the weirdest look on his face. He then sticks his arms out and starts windmilling them around in circles. The rest of us look at him with 'What the Hell are you doing?' expressions on our faces. And we all watched as he slowly crashed over backwards. The loud 'POP' sound was the wood that held the back legs of his chair in place suddenly breaking. He could feel it but couldn't stand up in time to keep from going over backwards.

>>what's your favorite Cosmic Encounter alien?

None yet

>>what color do you try to always play?

Blue!

>>what's a mechanic you hate and instantly turns you off a game?

Board games where you really need a table or some device to really play it.

>>what's a game you didn't expect much from but really won you over?

7 Wonders

>>what are your top 3 all-time favorite games and why?

What kind of 'real' gamer has only 3 all time favorites?

>>46840268
Suggested title: 'RAGE QUIT'

>>46841323
>Board games where you really need a table or some device to really play it.

that should read 'where you really need a tablet or some device'... Doh!

>>46840268
Hope your fiendish pet found its taste agreeable.

>>46834007
>Eh. . . Maybe Dominion? I'd just rather be playing thunderstone or arctic scavengers if I absolutely have to play a deckbuilder.

I'm the same. Dominion has solid mechanics, but for me it just didn't click.

> like Deception: Murder in Hong Kong WAY better.

I haven't been able to find that - apparently it's been out of stock for a while.

>>46833499
>>what do you play regularly?
>Blood Rage and Sushi-Go.
I was going to comment that "I hack up my foes! & Let's eat!" is a strange combination. Until I realized that Anon is really the Hannibal Lector of board gaming.

Hey guys. Just getting into playing board games recently and wanted some advice. I'm looking for a good dungeon crawler for a group of 4 just getting into board gaming and I've settled on Mice & Mystics and Arcadia Quest. Which one has better replayability? Which is easier to pick up and go? I've seen videos for both and just wanted some feedback if you can help a newfag out

>>46840314
>>46840946
>>46841198
Happened to a friend of me.
No idea exactly what happend, but he ordered Concordia to play it on the weekend, but then he found it lying like this in front of his house when he went outside.
I'm guessing the mail guy just really hates eurogames, maybe it was STEEV.

>>46843862
Looks more like a stray dog looking for food to me.

>>46843862
>maybe it was STEEV
Up your lebensraum, kraut, you can't prove anything.

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>>46845182
Don't make me report you...

>>46840927
ROLLED OVER THE LINE! MARK IT ZERO!

Any suggestions for good games for two players? I'm trying to get my girlfriend into boardgames since she doesnt like the vidya.

She's enjoyed Pandemic and King of Tokyo, and I think competitive games are more her style. Also something not too long. Maybe in the half hour range.

>>46847349
TWILIGHT STRUGGLE

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>>46847508
Yeah, no...

>>46847349
Splendor, The Duke, & Hive might fit the bill for competitive games with short run times.

So apparently Martin Shkreli is really bad at chess:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUzugInFZYo

He's also very bad at Hearthstone and League of Legends.

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This looked neat.

>>46848208
he kind of overall sucks at being a human

>>46847349

Thunder & Lightning
Android: Netrunner
Blue Moon Legends

As >>46847508 suggests, Twilight Struggle is a very good 2 player game though it may be somewhat longer than you asked for.

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>>46846377

We'll get some burgers, some beers; our troubles are over dude.

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>all the ass-blasted weebs in here

>>46848999
>butthurt redditor

Why are you even here.
Go on. Git.
Stop trying to cause trouble on an anime site for anime fans who love anime.

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>>46849038
>an anime site for anime fans who love anime.
I sincerely hope you don't actually believe this.

>>46849068
>butthurt redditor is butthurt

Sorry, you might want to think about why it's called 4chan for a second instead of Ms4.
Then again, you're just trying to stir up trouble, so here's your obligatory "You're a dumb cunt, get wrecked."

Have a nice trip on your way back to Redd's.

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>>46849131
>being this deep in denial
>actually thinks 4chan is an anime website
>actually thinks anyone who hates anime is a redditor

>>46849148
>still trying
Go home.

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>>46849159
>thinks this isn't my home

I can't decide if this is more or less fun than the namefag hate of yesteryear.

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So how about those board games?

This one has cool box art.

>>46848662
It's fun, but it's often frustrating if you've got a particularly dumb group.

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based Hornet Leader

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This one is in SPAAAAAAAAAACE

Can someone recommend some good co-op board games? Last one I bought was Dead of Winter but my group is tired of it.

>>46849219
That one doesn't even have a BGG entry.
>forthcoming kickstarter
ohboy

>>46849282
I wish tiger leader was as interesting.
I also wish I could talk myself into Warfighter.

>>46849332
>co-op
>good
I'm confused.

>>46849332

The best co-op I've personally played is the Lord of the Rings LCG, which is simply fantastic.

Hanabi is alright.

I also hear good things about;

Pandemic Legacy
Robinson Crusoe
Forbidden Desert
Legendary: Marvel
Shadows Over Camelot

>>46849481
I've heard good things about the LotR LCG, but I've also heard it's brutally difficult. And don't you need to buy two base sets to allow for more than 2 players?

We've played Legendary, but don't like it much. I'll look into the others, thanks!

>>46849481
Gears of War is surprisingly good.

>>46849522

It can be brutally difficult, for sure. It usually feels more "fair" than other difficult co-ops, because if/when you get murdered you can make adjustments to your deck and try again.

And yeah, buying in for several people all by yourself would get impractically expensive. Would not recommend it unless you can convince each individual player to pick up at least a core and some expansions of their own.

>>46849266
It's a spinoff/sequel

>>46849477
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/189222/saltlands
it's spelled in one word, I did the same mistake

>>46838173
just because?

originally it was because I complained that I never won games.
but now it's clear that I'm statistically the best player of games. even if my lead in Ticket is by half a point in average score.

Sweet baby Jesus CSI's international shipping fees are retarded. $54 for a single box to Mexico?
Fuck that, beanerland gets the same rates as the goddamn kiwis, and we're 7,000 miles closer.

>>46851053
You could always send them a message asking if there is a more reasonable rate to you.

is escape good??

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>>46833538
Thanks man. I'd been thinking about this and Xia, and after watching Vassel explain the rules I decided it looked like shit, nice to know my opinion is verified.
What's everyone's thoughts on Xia?

>>46851460
Yeah, guess it wouldn't hurt. Either way, this is not just for CSI, a lot of american retailers seem to believe anything south of Texas is in a different continent, it makes my blood boil. We should get the same rates the canucks get.

>>46851949
It'd more expensive to send shit to Mexico because packages have to go through more screening, I would think.

So I wasn't hyped for the Dark Souls board game when the Kickstarter started, but all these stretch goals are looking amazing. It's becoming worth it for me to buy the game for the minis alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwCGbG3tT6E&feature=youtu.be&t=11065
Lang looks NOTHING like I expected him to.
Which is, a portly slightly autistic balding officious looking man with a honky voice.

This is amazing, I need this for Castles of Mad King Ludwig.
I just cannot justify to myself spending almost as much as I did on the game on a peripheral.

>>46851930
The art/graphic design is terrible, stay away if you hate dice.

>>46847753
>>46848930
>>46847508
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll look those up. I recently picked up Splendor but we havent played it yet.

Ghost Stories and Flashpoint were on my list to be vetted. I heard a lot of good things about 7 Wonders Duel and Yinsh too.

>>46847349
Neuroshima Hex! and Summoner Wars.

>>46848999
>>46849038
>>46849068
>>46849148
>>46849131
>>46849159
>>46849176

Everyone needs to get in on a roman orgy or something. Calm them nerves down.

Remember, be awesome to each other.

>>46851972
Actually, they don't. The U.S. doesn't give a shit about stuff going out, and Mexico doesn't give a shit about stuff coming in, provided the customs slip is filled and the taxes paid.
Amazon ships some selected items (games included) to Mexico for free, but their selection isn't as good as CSI's. I'd rather not buy from Amazon, but all of the smaller retailers have Mexico listed as "intercontinental delivery". FFS, I'm closer to the U.S. border than Newfoundland! Free trade my ass...

Do group leaders get special abilities or a bonus or something? Why is my group split up into one leader and the rest followers? If my leader dies, do I make one of my other followers the new leader?

>>46854488
Is this a dead of winter question? If so, it is just for the beginning of the game, to see who goes first. The rulebook covers everything you need to know about leaders, which is not much.

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>>46854488
forgot pic

>>46854488
They were going to do more with leaders but they cut those rules right before it went to print.
>>46851984
I don't get why people say this. What are you going to do with the minis alone? Put them on a shelf?

Scrub here, how the fuck do I beat factory/harbor combo in a 3 player game of Puerto Rico? I guess people will say that the mistake is not being in a commanding position by the time that player has built both, so any advice on how to play an early game strat would be appreciated.

>>46854939
I know, right. There are freaky people who <shudder> collect miniatures and <shudder harder>... Paint Them!

<Looks over at massive collection of painted D&D minis along with 40K minis... Convulses!>

AAAAAIIIIEEEEEE!

>>46851930

I've heard nothing good about Xia.

>>46855049
OK, but the only things you can do with them are custom setting RPGs or hotglue. I guess that's worth 100 bucks to some people

>>46851930
I've heard nothing bad about Xia

>>46855196

Haven't actually read a review or talked to anyone who's played it then.

It's heavy on theme and very, very light on gameplay.

>>46855317
I talked to that one namefag who loved it and I watched a dice tower video about it.
Both made it sound pretty good like Sid Meier's Pirates in space.

>>46849219
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlj9McVvEiQ

HAHAHA man, I love this video.

>>46855377

Would you voluntarily play Sid Meier's Pirates in this day & age? No really. Go fire it up and dance with some waifus. I'll wait.


It's been five minutes so I'm sure you're bored.

Now, would you like to play a much simpler version of that in board game form and have to do all the recordkeeping yourself?

It's awful m8.

>>46855527
Dude I actually really wanted to play it lately, but I missed the humble bundle sale where it was for 1 dollar and I'm too lazy to pirate it.
HAHA I just realised I said pirate

>>46838994
This small 2-player co-op is coming out soon. It has a nice theme and really nice art.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/147281634X/ref=ya_st_dp_summary

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My tiny collection. It's not big but I love 'em. I also have Mage Wars plus 2 expansions and I also have all CE expansions.

I'm not sure if this would be better answered here or the pathfinder general, so I'll just ask it

How varied are the scenerios in PACG Skull and Shackles? One of the complaints I see from Rise of the Runelords is that it can feel a bit repetitive. I also see people say S&S improved on RotR in every way, but I don't know if that's part of it.

Similarly, what about Wrath of the Righteous? I understand that it's harder, but is the gameplay any more interesting?

>>46856501
All very solid games for a fun game night with friends.

>>46851930
Just echoing opinions I've seen: heavy on the theme (each ship has back stories so you feel connected, and it's not uncommon for random tales to pop up as explanations for stuff that happens during the game eg. cursed sections of space) so if the journey is more important than the goal to you, it should be good. However there are several accounts of imbalance (particularly for shields?), and if roll-to-move repels you, you should probably steer clear.

As for personal opinion, I won't buy it because despite being a big game, it doesn't look like it has a climax, just getting points to win the game. I don't mind that usually, but when it's a 2+ hour game that can end suddenly when someone goes "oh hey, I got this amount of points. I won?", that doesn't seem worth the effort. Of course I could be misunderstanding something crucial about the game though, so do correct me if I'm wrong somewhere.

>>46855393
Their actual trailer is pretty funny too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HOU5ayIN00

>>46856949
>but when it's a 2+ hour game that can end suddenly when someone goes "oh hey, I got this amount of points. I won?"
Am I the only one who has this feel for absolutely every board game?
A satisfying end is one thing video games do for me that I don't think board games are able to copy.

>>46857388
It's probably a kickstarter video, so naturally it has to be horrifyingly cringey.
I dunno if I've ever seen a kickstarter video that didn't make me cringe. I just refuse to click play on those things nowadays.

>>46857429
So just play a game with actual objectives instead of VPs? There's that pirate game that's basically a board game MOBA.

>>46851930
Love Xia personally. Realize there's luck involved, but also plenty of skill via risk management. The freedom you have to do all sorts of tasks is very comfy and immersive. Needs 3-4 people, no more no less.

What's the best dungeon crawl board game out there, /tg/? Is TSR's "Dungeon!" any good?

>>46857429
It's pretty hard to build an experience up into a high tension climax when the more lucrative goal is for the game to have replayability. It also depends on what gets you tense, personally if it reaches the point where 'this move could determine the game swinging to either side' then that's an exciting climax for me. So far Memoir 44, Netrunner, and Fury of Dracula managed to scratch that itch pretty well. Euros struggle for this since players are likely to break down mechanics to its bases, and treat it as a puzzle than as an experience.

>>46858220
Best two I have played are Gears of War for a co-op games and Level 7:Omega Protocal for 1vall.

How do you guys feel about Tabletop and Wil Wheaton? Is he actually a benefit to our hobby? Or just a memeing cuck who is trying to make a buck off of LE NERD CULTURE

>>46859232

literally who?

that's rhetorical, by the way. I don't care who you're whining about.

>>46859020
This.

>>46859232
He just feels so damn forced.
And also his taste in games is pretty ridiculously bland.

>>46859555
Not really board game related, but I watched a stream with Wil and Mark Rosewater talking about MTG and Wil just wouldn't shut the fuck up.

>>46859232
Well, he's certainly raised the profile of board gaming in the mainstream - I'd be more than comfortable showing some of his videos to help a newcomer understand how certain games are played. Hell, if it wasn't for his show, I probably wouldn't be here.

On the other hand... some of his guests pull BOY I SURE AM A NERD thing to a decidedly cringe-worthy degree, and from what I understand Season 3 was a shitshow from start to finish (which, given that it was the one people paid for, is hardly fair).

>>46861141
I agree on the guests. I'm not sure why they're trying to hard to make it seem like playing boardgames is like the ultimate nerd activity. Especially considering the large amount of casual games. Hell, my mother in law keeps bugging me to play more Sushi Go!

>>46861141
> Hell, if it wasn't for his show, I probably wouldn't be here.
Well that confirms it. Wil Wheaton is cancer and should be executed for crimes against board games.

Tabletop's production values are the best. But at the same time, it feels more like ads for games than anything else. From most other guys doing online playthroughs or whatever, I can usually get a feel for a game. Wheaton loves everything and editing makes everything look great.

And, of course, Wheaton himself is intolerable. Putting aside politics or cultural clashes or anything like that, he's a hard person to like. It's hard to put aside politics and culturewars, because he soaks so much of it up into himself. He fucking checked his privilege before going on a rant about how unfair Bernie supporters were being treated. The madman actually checked his privilege. Ugh. He's a wiener, and that's the nicest thing I can say about him.

>>46861602
How exactly does one check their privilege? I just don't get the concept.

>>46861863
>I’m going to acknowledge my privilege right now, before I get into this. Because I’m a middle-aged white dude, I don’t have the same experience in life that … well, pretty much everyone else who isn’t has. I know that the world is set up to make life for people like me as easy as possible (Scalzi’s “lowest difficulty” setting), and even though I try to see from outside of my own limited perspective, I don’t always succeed.

No, because you were selected at a young age to be Roddenberry's insert, you've not had had the same experiences in life as most everybody else.

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>>46861602
>>46861949

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>>46861863
pic related

>there's this game you're really hyped for until you find something out about it - what's the worst dealbreaker for you that kills your hype instantly?

Any kind of Munchkin tie-in product. Smash Up! Munchkin hurt my soul.

>what are some games you're hyped for at the moment?

Fucking Betrayal at House on the Hill expansion FUCK YES

>what are your most recent purchases and how do you like them?

Chopstick Dexterity Master Challenge 3000. Stupid fun entertainment.

>what are your worst cases of buyer's remorse and why?

Winter Tales. Cannot find a SINGLE person willing to learn or play the game.

>what would you really, really like to play with your group but haven't gotten the chance yet for whatever reason?

See above. I love co-op story telling games. I force people to play Once Upon a Time as often as possible.

>what do you play regularly?

Betrayal, Catan, Village, Coup, Smash Up, Sushi Go, DixIt

>what's something memorable that's happened while you were playing? be it awesome or shitty or funny or intense or thatguy-related

In one of our games of Betrayal, the first person to go revealed an omen and rolled zero on the haunt roll.

>what color do you try to always play?

Blue4lyfe

>what's a mechanic you hate and instantly turns you off a game?

Not a mechanic, but lolsorandumb humor

>what's a game you didn't expect much from but really won you over?

Village. Bought it on a whim just by looking at the box, but holy shit do I love that game.

>what 5 games would you bring to convince a nongamer of how awesome board games can be?

Settlers of Catan, Carcassone, Betryal, Takenoko, Tokaido

>what are your top 3 all-time favorite games and why?

Catan - quintessential euro game, equal parts competition and cooperation, easy to learn but difficult to master.

Betrayal at House on the Hill - so much goddam fun and always a different experience.

The Resistance - builds and destroys friendships.

>>46862409
Is the new Betrayal expansion offering anything new, or is it more of the same?

I love it, but I don't play it enough to have to worry about running out of game.

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>>46861602
>The Five Tribes episode of Tabletop
>Guys let's not them slaves that's not cool brah
>Based Richard Garriot continues to call them slaves
>mfw

>>46862447
50 new haunts, and a bunch of new items, events, and rooms, including a new floor and the roof.

If you haven't done all the haunts yet, you could totally wait before picking it up.

>>46849282
>based Hornet Leader
I just got it yesterday. Pretty damn stoked to play it. Now, I just have to find time to play it.

Not enough time to answer OP, but anyone here play the second edition of Pandante? I heard it fixed a lot of the things that made the first edition shit.

>>46862724
Haven't played it, but that would be consistent with Sirlin's MO.

>>46862512
Almost makes me want to watch it now.

Have you guys tried the Twilight Struggle pc game on steam?
The AI seems pretty good, I can't even beat the tutorial.

>>46833289
>what's something memorable that's happened while you were playing? be it awesome or shitty or funny or intense or thatguy-related

Thatguy-related: a group member befriended a new person who was quite into this board's bread and butter games. He was rather obnoxious but hadn't been too much of an issue until we started gaming with him. It was the kind of guy who thought he was the best but mostly ended up thinking that because he only played with shitty players or people who didn't know the rules well.
So this one time we managed to do Twilight Imperium. And all he does for several turns is gather Trade Resource tokens. Other players warn him that might not be the best strategy since he didn't seem to be doing anything with them. But he was absolutely confident that was his strategy.
I was playing with the race (forget the name) that allowed me to draw 2 Action cards per turn and no hand limit. So I warn him that I might just get a card to wipe out all the resources he had gathered. But he kept piling 'em up.
So. I get the action card that allows me to look for any other action card in the deck. And really, how could I not?
So I play it. I destroy half of his Trade tokens and keep the other half.
The guy goes APESHIT saying THIS IS NOT HOW YOU PLAY THE GAME and so on and so forth. We tell him we specifically warned him about it. This was bound to happen and it was absolutely fair. But he kept complaining, saying I should have negotiated. So I tell him, sure, let's negotiate. I don't mind. I can withdraw the card if it's such a big issue. But he declines the offer. Pulls his chair back. And tells us "I'm afraid I won't be able to play any games with you anymore". And promptly leaves, at 3 am or so.

I felt guilt about causing that kind of disruption and interrupting the game... But still, seriously. Fuck that guy.

>>46864942
Removing this kind of person from your group is NEVER something to feel guilty about.

Any opinions on Specter Ops? I'm considering getting it. How does it compare to Fury of Dracula? They seem similar.

>>46865404
My experience with Specter Ops is that each game will go one of two ways:

1. Absolute balls to the wall amazing everything. Extremely tense from round one through the finish, players simultaneously sprout gray hairs out of stress, and several gallons of sweat are excreted from the players skin even though the game only takes about an hour.

2. Absolute snoozefest. One side just runs away with the game, nobody has fun, the players start actively bickering with each other, and next thing you know people are getting up and going home even though game night just started.

I'm being (slightly) hyperbolic, but you get my gist. Either the game is lightning in a bottle or it just falls flat on its face. I can't figure out why, either, how to predict that a game would become one or the other. As a result, even though I own it and enjoy it, I am so hesitant to suggest playing it that I'm actually trying to trade my copy away.

I haven't played Fury of Dracula to compare it to, though.

>>46864942
I call that kind of people "maestro".

They're people who have an unusually inflated sense of skill (usually do to sycophants or other enablers) and when faced with with people of higher skill/knowledge they retreat, smear or cry foul.

Especially common in older programmers.

>>46864942
Jesus Christ. If you have insecurity issues, just admit it and only play games where you won't take a loss personally. And work on that shit.

Don't ragequit a long-ass game at 3 am and ruin it for everyone.

any other games where i get to roll 10ish dice / turn besides ashes?

i have a dice fetish

>>46862682
Aaaand got my first couple of missions in. Doing great at the short Iraq 1991 introductory campaign. One day to go and only 2 VP for a 'Great' result.

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>Planned a Twilight Imperium 3 game for tonight three weeks ago. All newbies.
>As the date gets closer and closer to today more and more people decide not to come.
>Down to myself and two others.
>Game shop nearby hosts Saturday 'board game' nights from 12 to 12.
>Decide with friends to play it there so we could pick up more people to fill the gaps.
>Get there
>Everyone there playing Magic the Gathering 20+ people.
>No board games in sight.
>No one wants to play
>Play a 6 hour, 3 player game there.
>No board games
>Just Magic and YUGIOH.

Are card games the purest form of cancer?

>>46866881
Yes.
Another question?

>>46866881
I'd add pokemans CCG to the top 3 offenders

>>46866344
After some buildup, Roll for the Galaxy can get pretty wild with dice.

https://beta.tabletopia.com/play/santorini-2u6c5i
Santorini up on Tabletopia.

I honestly can't think of a more fitting game for that platform, too.

>>46866881
Are you actually mad that nobody wanted to commit to a 6 hour game they have probably never played before? With three perfect strangers?

I mean a lot of dueling card game like mtg have many antisocial/gameshy players, (i literally cannot get MTG friends to play Ashes with me while they wait 1 hour for a bye) but I think you would have this result if you showed up to most board game groups looking to put together a random game of ti3

>>46868832
I though of that but the dice cup is kind of a boner killer

>>46865560
>>46865404
As a tension comparison, Fury of Dracula has a thing where if Dracula scores points by maturing vampires, he has to reveal the location where the vampire was at, so the hunters can immediately work out where his current location might be using that info. This results in bursts of excitement of "oh shit I know where he is" as everyone scrambles in that direction, trying to block Dracula's routes.

However, that can dissipate quickly once the hunters lose his trail again. Then Dracula matures another vampire, and it repeats. It can be especially disheartening when at the very end, Dracula runs to sea (a common strategy) and waits for his "walk into a city to get points" power to activate and you can do nothing about it because he's too far away or something. I realize it happens because Dracula absolutely outplayed the hunters, but it'd still feel like getting a Bad End after investing 3+ hours into the game.

>>46871623
You don't need to use it.

What is the best gateway game with worker placements?

I was thinking of buying stone age.

Anyone play Neuroshima Hex? Apparently Portal's version is missing Doomsday Machine... and they are not selling it individually. So, should I get Z-Man's version then? Is that army worth getting?

>>46872722
Stone Age is one I really like. It's a great intro game when it comes to worker placement.

>>46864796
My friend spoke highly of it, I might pick it up myself.

Speaking of Twilight Struggle, I just finished a game of it tonight. I played as the US and holy shit, I forgot how hard it was to hold on to Europe as them. I don't know if I was just drawing shitty cards, but it's really hard to keep a solid position in there after Suez Crisis, De Gaulle, and Willy Brandt get played right at the start of Mid War.

>>46866546

Awesome!

My personal best on the 3-day Iraq '91 campaign is 10 VP. That was on the older Hornet Leader II. Not sure how much is different in Carrier Air Ops

>>46859232
I despise wil and felicia and everything they stand for

>>46872722
You really can't go wrong with Stone Age, Kingsburg, or Ninjato

>>46873504
Yep, I have the Z-Man version of Neuroshima Hex. If you can find it still then you might as well pick it up to get the free extra army.

Tbh, I haven't played as Doomsday Machine yet so I can't give my opinion.

>>46865560
>>46872655
I better see if I can do a playthrough of each then before I decide. The theme of Fury of Dracula pulled me in a little more than Specter Ops, and FoD seems to have a more fleshed out experience from the two. Unfortunately, length of play time is an issue with my group so SO is still a strong contender.

>>46859232
I think anyone who can act as a gateway for the hobby to receive new blood is worthy. I don't personally watch them but I think they're honest with their enjoyment of board games.

>>46833289
>what's the worst dealbreaker for you that kills your hype instantly?
Thing costs 3x as much (or more) than it would cost me to just make the damn thing myself.

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>Polis: Fight for the Hegemony
Anyone have experience with this euro/wargame hybrid?

>>46877116
If you want a short hidden movement game, there's Escape From the Aliens in Outer Space, which has the benefit of being PnP-able for a cheap price.

>>46873504
Doomsday is fun but tricky, too powerful sometimes if you have a bit of luck and know jhow to use the tiles. They're immobile and fragile, but all the redirected and forked shots will really hurt the opponent.

>>46865560
In my experience, only the second option occurs. One side always trounced the other, making for an overall frustrating experience.

Fury of Dracula has always been much closer and felt more satisfying despite its longer playtime, and for me personally the theme is much more interesting.

>>46877376
I've had the absolute opposite experience.

The two games of Dracula I've played have been as such:

1. Hunters found dracula's trail within four turns and hounded him down before he could really do anything. Was exciting for the first 45 minutes and then the next hour was kind of frustrating and annoying as dracula tried everything to slither out of their grasp but wasn't able to and just got picked apart. It became obvious that dracula wouldn't be able to escape yet it still required another half an hour of play to get there.

2. Hunters didn't find dracula's trail until like turn 10 and had absolutely no chance and only fought him once where he escaped at the first opportunity after taking a few damage and played a combo that put him four cities away from the fight location with one turn left for the hunters.

Games of Specter Ops I have played have always been much closer.

That combined with the fact that there are TONs of rules and things to keep track of in Fury of Dracula, rules will take a while to explain, and new players will extend the game time by a lot.

Specter Ops can be nearly summed up as: move up to four spaces on your turn and line of sight is orthagonal to infinity. Everything else that happens is simply dressings on top. You can set up, teach, and start playing in just a few minutes.

And I find 'METAL GEAR!?' theaming way more interesting than 'BLEH~ you'll never catch me BLEH~'.

>>46854530
I also have a couple questions about DoW.

With the attract action, do I have to move exactly 2 zombies or can I also move 1?
What if I move 2 zombies to a location with only 1 free space?
What if I use the megaphone? Exactly 4 or up to 4?

How exactly does the walkie talkie work? When can I use it? Do I choose a die before the other players rolls of after?

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>>46878440
Not going to argue about anything since both of those situations can happen at an unpleasantly frequent rate. About the theming however, learning that Fury of Dracula was highly based off of the novel made it incredibly interesting personally. The chase across Europe did happen in the book, and it was sad that none of the Dracula adaptations always cut off this particular part of the novel, despite being the main build up towards the climax. The best adaptation was probably pic related, which still cut the entire story way too short.

>>46833289
I'm trying to come up with a list of game types / categories for describing most types of board games to folks who are new to board gaming. So far I've got:

Euro Games
American / Ameri-trash Games
War Games
Space 4x
Social Deduction
Hidden Role (w/ possible hidden traitor)
Take-That
Deck Building (Dominion, Arctic Scavengers, Star Realms, etc.)
Constructed Deck Games (MTG, etc.)

Any other suggestions?

>>46879771
Party games

>>46879771
Worker Placement
Abstract
Card Drafting
Area Control
Co-Operative

to name a few

>>46879771
>Take-That

Please elaborate.

>>46879771

Just go to the boardgamegeek advanced search function and check the list of categories.

>>46880550
Doh! I was just playing Code Names. Thanks!

>>46880714
Thank you for the input. I *think* Card Drafting games are becoming more commonly known as 'Deck Builders'. But I'm not sure there is actually a universal term yet.

>>46881107
Take That style games are games where players directly and deliberately try to interfere with other player's actions and plans during the course of the game. Examples include: Munchkin, and the better 'Cutthroat Caverns' where you try to win while hosing the other players to prevent them from winning first.

>>46881317
Thanks! I will, that's an excellent suggestion.

Thanks everyone, the assistance is greatly appreciated. :)

>>46881317
Lordy! They have categories out the wazoo! And a few of them seem odd or redundant - 'Math' vs 'Numbers' and what the heck is the 'Maze' category?

BGG Categories:
Abstract Strategy
Action / Dexterity
Adventure
Age of Reason
American Civil War
American Indian Wars
American Revolutionary War
American West
Ancient
Animals
Arabian
Aviation / Flight
Bluffing
Book
Card Game
Children's Game
City Building
Civil War
Civilization
Collectible Components
Comic Book / Strip
Deduction
Dice
Economic
Educational
Electronic
Environmental
Expansion for Base-game
Exploration
Fan Expansion
Fantasy
Farming
Fighting
Game System
Horror
Humor
Industry / Manufacturing
Korean War
Mafia
Math
Mature / Adult
Maze
Medical
Medieval
Memory
Miniatures
Modern Warfare
Movies / TV / Radio theme
Murder/Mystery
Music
Mythology
Napoleonic
Nautical
Negotiation
Novel-based
Number
Party Game
Pike and Shot
Pirates
Political
Post-Napoleonic
Prehistoric
Print & Play
Puzzle
Racing
Real-time
Religious
Renaissance
Science Fiction
Space Exploration
Spies/Secret Agents
Sports
Territory Building
Trains
Transportation
Travel
Trivia
Video Game Theme
Vietnam War
Wargame
Word Game
World War I
World War II
Zombies

>>46881571
I'd almost say some of these fall into the 'theme' or 'genre' area rather than a general category as ACW, AIW, ARW, Korean War, Vietnam War, WW I, and WW II games for example all fall under the umbrella category of 'war game' for example.

>>46881571
Check the Mechanics section too, might be more in vein with stuff you had in >>46879771.

>>46881398
While having some conceptual similarities, Card Drafting and Deck Building refer to different mechanics.

Sushi Go is a Card Drafting game. Everyone has a hand of cards, picks one to keep to put in their tableau, and then pass the rest to the next person. You repeat this until all the cards are gone and then total up points.

Dominion is a Deck Building game where you purchase cards to alter a base deck of cards to accomplish the goal of getting the most VPs.

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Yo.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/BoardGamesGeneral

>there's this game you're really hyped for until you find something out about it - what's the worst dealbreaker for you that kills your hype instantly?

Well honestly I get hyped for games and then realize they're boring/derivative and I hate them. I really loved the Cypher System so when they announced a Numenera game I was so hyped and then the gameplay was retarded and boring. I wanted to adventure on a game board with my bros god damn i.


>what are some games you're hyped for at the moment?

Pillars of Eternity the Board game looks amazing
That DnD deckbuilding game looks AMAZING.

>what are your most recent purchases and how do you like them?

the last game I bought was Age of War, nifty little dicerolling game by FFG. I wish there was more japanese themed shit

>what are your worst cases of buyer's remorse and why?

Thunderstone Advance: Numenera. It's basically a shitty Dominion.
DnD Elemental Evil is also a fuck off and die game

>what would you really, really like to play with your group but haven't gotten the chance yet for whatever reason?

The Witcher Board game

>what do you play regularly?

nothing im a faggot

>what color do you try to always play?

BLACK

>what's a mechanic you hate and instantly turns you off a game?

XP gains

>what's a game you didn't expect much from but really won you over?

shadow hunters

>what 5 games would you bring to convince a nongamer of how awesome board games can be?

fuck you

>what are your top 3 all-time favorite games and why?

fuck you

>>46881730
Thanks, I'll check that out too.

>>46881853
Thank you for the explanation. If I'm understanding it correctly, then 7 Wonders would be a 'Card Drafting' game rather than a Deck Builder.

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>>46881986
>Thunderstone Advance: Numenera. It's basically a shitty Dominion.

>>46882244
>7 Wonders would be a 'Card Drafting' game rather than a Deck Builder
Correct.

Page 10 already?

>>46881951
I hope this gets mentioned again 4 or 5 days from now. I can't get on Steam until I get these last two papers in or I'm worried I'll start playing games and end up scurrying then turning in shitty papers.

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Let's say you're hosting a game night party for your sort-of nerdy, but overall normal, casual college friends. They're not into tabletop RP. What board/card games are essential to have? CAH, Monopoly, and Risk are already accounted for.

>>46887714
>CAH, Monopoly, and Risk are already accounted for.
You should try getting them into good games.

>The Resistance if you have 5-10 people
>King of Tokyo (I'm lukewarm on it despite loving giant monster movies, but others love it)
>Settlers of Catan (not a great game, but if they like Monopoly, it's way, waaaay better than that, and also shorter, simpler, and without player elimination)

>>46887788
Anon, you misunderstand. These are incredibly average, boring people who don't want to try to learn how to play new games. Believe me, I've tried. Many times. I'm asking for the classic arsenal instead, things everyone already knows how to play, and if they don't, takes less than 2 minutes to pick up.

Thanks for the suggestions, though, I'll keep them in mind.

>>46887714
Depends, how many people are there?

Risk is pretty easy to get into, but the game could drag out for an incredibly long time; especially if you play Total Domination. Even a Mission game of Risk could easily take 2hrs and above. Not going to mention CAH because I haven't played it (neither do I want to play it), and I hate Monopoly with a passion.

Some boardgames I've personally played with a group of 4 -5 are -

1) Pandemic. Pretty easy to learn, very hard to beat. Super fun, especially when you first start getting into it.

2) Betrayal at House on the Hill. Fun game where it is divided into two segments. First segment is exploration, where you explore places and randomly put down room tiles. Second segment is where the Haunt happens, and one of the group becomes the traitor. Once that happens, it becomes Survivors v Traitor

3) The Resistance. I don't own the actual game cards, but I managed to play it just fine using a normal deck of cards. Pretty fun game.

>>46887714
Pandemic or Ticket to Ride.

>>46887714
If you think they'd like hidden-role games, I recommend BANG! as a nice and reasonably simple one, although it only really shines with at least 5 people.

Red Dragon Inn is also good in my experience as a pretty simple game, although it does tend to drag a little once it gets down to the final two.

I also agree with Pandemic, Ticket to Ride, and Betrayal as good choices, although it really depends on just how stubborn they are when it comes to learning new games.

>>46887851
>These are incredibly average, boring people
Why are you hanging out with them?

>>46887714
Funemployed
Coup / Coup G54
Saboteur 1 & 2
Once Upon a Time
Code Names
Telestrations

>>46887714

Ehhh. I guess...

Apples to Apples
Poker set with decent clay chips.
Jenga

>>46887851

The "classic" arsenal isn't classic.
It's all complete garbage.

If the people you are spending time with are so incredibly fucking boring that CAH represents the edge of their comfort zone, they aren't worth spending time with at all.

>tfw played a five player game of scythe by myself on tabletopia this evening
The hype is real, folks. What a game. My only complaint was a stalemate period towards the middle of the game where nobody could attack someone and hold the territory so nobody did, but that could probably just be a result of all the players having the same opinion on what is necessary for a good attack...

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>>46890956
Pic related, cause autism.

>>46890956
What is tabletopia?
Do you have to pay for it? Just the same as TTS?

>>46891048
Tabletopia is similar to TTS. At the moment you don't have to pay for it, and I think the overall plan is that people playing won't have to pay but those hosting games will. So, one guy gets a sub, sets up the game, invites the non-sub players, and then you can play. It'll be a subscription based service, and a portion of the sub will go to the developers of the games you host based on usage.

I think. It's been a minute since I read anything about it.

Anyways, there's a bunch of KS's that put games up on Tabletopia to help convince backers to, well, back. Scythe is one of those. Santorini is another.

Here's Scythe's link. You can just open it in your browser, no problem.
https://beta.tabletopia.com/play/scythe-demo/

>>46849282
That looks amazing. How does it work?

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>>46892437

Hornet Leader is a solo wargame which is good enough, and has enough content, that it stays interesting for many, many plays.

Basic premise is that you are commanding a fighter wing. You pick a number of pilots and a theater (Desert Storm/Iraq '91 being a common starting point, but there are several others), and a campaign length. Usually between 3 and 21 days.

You draw a couple of cards from a deck of mission cards and pick one. Then you randomly assign ground-based defenses to it. You choose which pilots you will be sending on the mission of the day and arm them based on what you think you will need to complete the mission - your stock of various sorts munitions is finite over the course of a campaign.

Random events occur on the way to the target, while over the target, and one the way home. These offer additional challenges, rewards, bonuses, and penalties of various sorts. All very thematic - bad weather, good intelligence, etc

Once your squadron is over the target, you randomly assign it's aerial defenders. Lots of MiGs and the like. Your squadron has only a few turns to complete their mission before they run low on fuel and have to return to base. There are definite push-your-luck elements at work. Good planning at both tactical and strategic levels is important.

Depending on how the mission plays out, you can win strategic bonuses which will be useful as the campaign goes on. Pilots that go on a mission usually receive some quantity of both stress and experience. You need to carefully manage both across your wing.

>>46881107
aka fuck you in particular games

>>46887851
Skull can be learned while drunk, some people say. Funemployed is a better replacement to CAH. Codenames for team fun. All 3 of these can be explained in a single breath probably.

>>46893865
>Skull can be learned while drunk, some people say.
First time I played, drunk guy won.

>>46891149
>subscription based service

Fuck that shit.

Wasn't getting an answer in /hwg/.

Is A House Divided a good starting point for war games?

>>46894616

>published 1981
>dice combat
>point-to-point movement

Without knowing much about it, it kinda looks like complete shit to me.

What do you find interesting about it?

>>46894869
It was recently re-published and apparently quite high quality. It has a simple "learning" mode and then different sets of advanced rules you can add to make it more historical, deeper gameplay, etc. ACW is a war a lot of people have strong feelings about, and thus are more likely to want to play a game with that theme even if they don't generally like war games. Dive Thru Review recommends it, and bgg gives it a 7, which is decent.

I also don't know much about these kinds of games or what to judge them based on. I haven't played it.

>>46894616
I recommend watching a playthrough if there's one available. If you can understand the rules even when you're just watching, and find the playthrough fun (or atleast the game seems fun even i the playthrough bores you), get it.

If there aren't any playthroughs, look for a copy of the rules online and read through it, enough that you can explain the rules to somebody else. If you still find it interesting at that point, or you managed to learn the rules fairly quickly, I'd say go for it.

Is there a good game besides Cosmic Encounter which includes:
asymmetrical player powers
no round structure (turn structure is okay)
a final, total, apocalyptic battle in which everyone throws their weight

>>46894616
The best starting point for wargames is a historical period that interests you. I've found that this is pretty much the biggest factor in how interested someone will be in the game. I know someone who taught himself Triumph of Chaos as their first wargame. If you like the ACW, A House Divided is an excellent classic. Battle Cry is also good, though the most simple of the C&C family. If you're into WW2, you'll never have trouble finding a game or an opponent. I'm more of a Napoleonic guy myself.

>>46894869
>dice combat
>point-to-point movement
Most of the good wargames today still incorporate both of these concepts. Unlike Euros, diceless wargames are relatively uncommon even today, and point-to-point movement has become increasingly common since pretty much every CDG under the sun uses it.

And as far as age, that fact that the game is still in print today suggests that it was one of the better wargames of the period to warrant reprinting. 1981 was the same year Avalon Hill first printed Civilization, and game which really doesn't have a successor even today.

>>46887714
Word Whimsy
Carcassonne
Star Wars Risk/Monopoly (2015)
Ankh Morpork (only if the majority are Discworld fans)
One Night Ultimate Werewolf

>>46890976
How the fuck do they get around copyright infridgement? I was thinking making a couple of copies of board games but always came to a conlcusion that I don't want to be raped by lawyers.

>>46896694
> implying CE is good

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>>46890956
>>46890976
Can you tell me a bit more about the game? What do you like, what do you dislike, how is the overall gameplay? Anything special? Do you think it's fun and exciting? How does it play?

---------------------------

Anyone here excited for this? Never played it or even heard of it but it looks pretty cool.

>>46898330
In the case of the service you're talking about, I believe the service hosts actually pay the copy right owners based on the game / number of plays service users. Which would be why they're charging a subscription fee - part of the fee goes to pay the copyright owners.

>>46896884
>a historical period that interests you
Pasting from other thread:
>AWI
>battles in India between Sikhs, Hindus, Muslims
>Spanish Civil War*
>Sino-Japanese wars
>American Civil War
>current conflict between Kurds and ISIS, and Kurds and Syria
>golden age pirate shit*
>Godzilla: Monster War

An asterisk means I'm particularly interested in this.

>>46898710
>Godzilla: Monster War

Is there something like that?

>>46898957
It was a joke. That's the name of a Super Famicom game starring Godzilla.

>>46898455
> whining while offering nothing useful...
Bravo! Nice job there 'Human Boat-Anchor'.

>>46896694
Don't know of anything that meets your exact requirements. Android: Netrunner has very good asymmetric play style but is more a constant game of cat and mouse between the corp player and the runner. Eclipse (Space 4x) oddly enough has various races and variable technologies - and routinely ends in a massive slug-fest on turn 8 or 9, but doesn't have to end that way.

>>46898970
I meant if there's a board game where you control military forces and have to fight against giant monsters?

>>46899115
There are a couple, though at the moment their names escape me. One involved 'Hero Click' style figures and is discontinued, but I think the other is still in print. Sorry I can't be more specific.

There's also 'Conquest of Planet Earth: Apocalypse' where the players are aliens trying to invade earth. It has an expansion too.

>boardgamegeek search
>mechanic filter: hand management, secret deployment, simultaneous action selection, tile placement
>2 results
Why don't people like what I like?

Juggernauts I can just download, so how's Spearpoint 1943 with and/or without the village and defensive line expansion?

>>46898684
first game was a huge success on KS but ended up being boring and repetitive.
Now they are trying to sell an other season and are saying that they fixed the rules. It's up to you to believe them or not.
Alternatively you could pedge in order to get the minis to use them in other games.

>>46898710
>>AWI
Quite a few good games. On the strategic scale, Washington's War is one of the more easy to learn card-driven wargames. GMT's recently released Liberty or Death has gotten fanfare as a good introduction to their COIN series, which are multiplayer wargames with Euro aspects. On the tactical scale, both Hold the Line and GMT's Battles of the American Revolution are good introductory hex-and-counter games.

>>battles in India between Sikhs, Hindus, Muslims
Most India games cover the ancient dynasties, while later periods like the British Raj are overlooked. Next War: Pakistan covers a modern war between India and Pakistan but is pretty complex.

>>Spanish Civil War*
GMT's The Spanish Civil War is a hex-and-counter on the subject that's given good reviews but it somewhat heavy. Popular Front is a more beginner friendly Euro-influenced wargame but is designed to work best for around five or six players. On a tactical scale, MMP's Guadalajara can be an introduction to other games in their Standard Combat series.

>>Sino-Japanese wars
Most of the games on these conflicts are complex and geared toward heavy wargamers, like War of the Suns. Storm over Taierzhuang is a tactical game covering one (major) battle that's uses an area-impulse system that's fairly simple.

>>American Civil War
Lots of options. For strategic, A House Divided is easy to pick up and cheap. For the People is another classic, but is a little more complex. For tactical, Battle Cry uses the Commands and Colors system at it's simplest and is probably the least complex wargame mentioned. A large amount of other games on this conflict of varying complexity, these are just the more well-known/simpler ones.

>>current conflict between Kurds and ISIS, and Kurds and Syria
Generally ongoing conflicts don't get games. Labyrinth: The War on Terror is probably the closest you're going to get. A bit tough as a beginning wargame, but a good game.

>>46898710
>>46899901
>>golden age pirate shit*
Avalon Hill's Blackbeard was pretty much THE Golden Age of Piracy game back in the day. GMT did a second edition that updated things to mixed reviews.

>>Godzilla: Monster War
There's a few games that use monster attacks as themes, though I can't really think of wargames that do it. OGRE is a classic beginner wargame with a super-tank versus many normal units premise that's basically the same highly asymmetrical warfare premise. There's probably some kaiju themed wargames in Japan, they have a pretty old wargaming scene there.

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>>46864796
>3rd party account
not really on steam then is it baka desu senpai

>>46864796
>I can't even beat the tutorial
Well then either you are a shitty player or it's a shitty tutorial.

>>46902286
I've got three friends who were struggling with the tutorial, but haven't taken a shot at it myself. Sounds like the AI has only one setting, and that it reams new players pretty thoroughly.

>>46902409
Ah! Computerized 'Gaming with That Guy'. Excellent.

>>46892437
>>46892862
The aircraft carrier and plane displays are fan-made and downloadable on BGG.

Also, to give an idea of the replayability, I finished my first campaign with a Great result yesterday. This was a short campaign with one E-2C and the rest F/A-18Cs. You can also play a medium or long campaign on the same map and there are several more campaign maps, with additions on their website.

You could also try different strategies, different pilots and the many different airplanes. From different versions of the F/A-18, to the F-14, the A-6 and A-7, to EA-6Bs and Harriers.

>>46903571
I'm not trying to diss but what's the apeal of solo board games?

A computer or a mobile will be a more wothwile oponent compared to what can be encoded in a board game. If action packed vidya aren't your thing slower paced games like Angband, Civilization, Advance Wars, Master of Magic (or Orion) offer much more replayability and deep gameplay than anything I could expect from a board game.

The only use case for solo board games I see is when you don't have electricty for prolonged periods of time.

Am I missing something?

>>46904847
I tend to agree with you, but playing something solo unplugged with cardboard and physical dice can be more cathartic in some ways.

>>46904847
I agree with you. But sometimes if you play a lot of video games you want something different even if video games are better for solo play.

Also I play Arkham Horror and Eldritch Horror solo and there really isn't a video game equal to it. (I would kill for a Lovecraft video game like Arkahm Horror)

>>46905116
Might be a question of different tastes. I see no difference between solving sudoku or soliatere on the screen than on paper/with cards.

>>46905249
Might be it, I don't play a lot of vidya.

>>46904847
I'm the other anon, but tldr: game design and minimalism

Take Angband for example. It's very complicated and has a million items, but most of the items are roughly the same; there's no significant difference between a broadsword +1 (2d4+1) and a longsword +1 (1d8+1). If you have to put those as item cards in a boardgaem, if you're sensible you'll just distill everything down to only the options that matter. If your design ability is good, you'll get just as much depth with rules/itemlists that aren't a million pages long.

also
>Angband, Civilization, Advance Wars, Master of Magic (or Orion)
all of which are very old, and I've played the fuck out of all of them; comparable new games are very niche on computer and don't come around that often

>>46905249
But those games are awful...

>>46904847

You're missing some things, yeah.

First of all, you're mistaken about the AI thing.
It's difficult verging on impossible to code decent AI for a computer game. Let's take Starcraft for example. Awesome PC strategy game. Fantastic storyline with a great single-player campaign. Is the AI any good? Fuck no. Is there actually much strategy involved in defeating it? Fuck no. For most of the campaign you just spam marines, zerglings, zealots, siege tanks, whatever until the AI opponent is dead.

So what's missing? What's missing is that the player is not being offered difficult decisions. The actual game underneath all the flashy production is rather weak, at least as far as the singleplayer campaign goes.

Games like Civ offer a more board-game style of decision making, but aren't necessarily any better than the designs available in physical form since most of the money goes towards audiovisual production whereas a board game has to be mechanically good enough to stand on that merit alone. The AI is usually not much more complex than a board game equivalent, and it's still way less interesting than playing with other people.

I will agree that there aren't many solo board games that are good enough to pull out instead of playing a PC game. But there are a few.

Hornet Leader is one of them.
Lord of the Rings LCG is another.

>>46905348
What should I be playing then?