MTG MODERN GENERAL

Splinter Twin did nothing wrong

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Jund is 10% of the meta in a 57% aggro format

"In the interest of competitive diversity, Tarmogoyf is banned"

>>46777926
47%*

>>46777856
Twin was free wins all the way down. I want it back desperately. The only deck easier to beat is burn.

>>46777926
Goyf is Modern's standard bearer. People would lose their shit if it got banned. I would cum.

>>46777926
>Jund
>Aggro
Yet another reason why MTGTOP8 is shit

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So who plays fae here?

I don't understand why Tarmogoyf is even considered the beater that he is. He's a 2-drop sure, but he won't be powerful on turn 2 for most games. He will usually get dismembered (or the thousands of other hose removals that target him) unless it's super late game. To me he is like a slightly more viable Wight of Precinct Six. Not something for decks like Jund to automatically include. But maybe I've just never played against a deck that properly implemented him.

>>46778088
Midrange isn't a real deck type.

DANK FUEL CAN'T MEME STEEL DREAMS

Jumping into modern with titan shift. Waiting on more singles in the mail. Friends advised me to hold off until eldrazi winter had passed and now the modern scene at the shop is bigger than ever. Can't wait.

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>>46778157
My current build is bullshit, but I suppose I do.
The Liliana and Soul Manipulation have since been cut in favor of two Ancestral Visions.

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>>46778297

>>46778323

foh son

>>46778179
He's almost always immune to bolt, the most common removal in modern, when you play him
On top of that, he's a 4/5 for 2 mana.

>>46778296
Thanks for sharing, the blackguards are really interessting are they working out for you? I mean of course they go great with the bitterblossom and are cheap enough

>>46778157
Right here but budgeted.

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>>46778088
Jund's nowhere near 10% anyways

>>46778323
U motherfucker u can't do that shit 2 my thread 1v1 me right now bitch

Mountain goblin guide attack pass

>>46778179
The way I see it, is that tarmogoyf is part of the liliana/discard package. There has to be very fucking good reason to run him outside that shell as tarmogoyf isn't nearly good enough without it.

>>46778189
People could just forget archetypes. They don't mean shit anyway.

>>46778157
I understood it's overexpensively shit deck.

>>46777856
I have been growing into idea of buying twin package now just for the possibility for it being unbanned one day.....

Does anyone have SCG premium and willing to share Shaun Mclaren's UWR list?

>>46778485
It's very to easy to get the main card types in the grave without hand hate.

>>46778419
Against certain decks, they're good enough that I'd sooner Image them than a Scion. Emptying a Storm or Ad Nauseam player's hand every turn feels good.

>>46778034
>Goyf is Modern's standard bearer. People would lose their shit if it got banned
>Twin is Modern's standard bearer. People would lose their shit if it got banned

>>46778461
>Last 2 months

Would this deck be viable in modern?
I've been messing around with it, and usually it combos relatively early, but it averages out at turn 6-7.

Is it too late by then, if so, how should I improve it?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/myr-grinder/

>>46778530
Twin has never been a $200 Mythic.

>>46778394
Path is

>>46778518
True, but I wouldn't autoinclude it in as green ever without discard package.

>>46778488
I second this.

>>46775172
The point of the white with black splash is that only the accessions and sideboard hate is above 7 dollars. Even then, the whole thing is about as much as the play set of snappies.

And I suppose that if tron pulls a mind slaver I only have disenchants and stony silences post board
>>46775285
The only real problem matches are decks that win with non creature damage. I'm not super familiar with modern, being an edh player, but all I can think of is 8rack (which few people play), burn (circle of protection red and leyline of sanctity stop) and ad nauseam (circle of protection red and leyline again). All I can answer post board

>>46778034
People said the same about Splinter Twin.

I still miss Bloom Titan

>>46778547
Throw the whole thing in the garbage

maybe keep the basic lands

>>46778612
Green has insane graveyard interaction

>>46779067
we all do

except hoogland

fuck yourself hoogland

>>46779209
But those interactions don't include tarmogoyf. Or do you come up with few that make any sense with him?

>>46777797
modern sux

You get to reprint one card from the Urza block to save modern, which do you chose?

>>46779531
Goblin Lackey. :^)

>>46779274
>hoogland
What does he play

>>46779590
Kiki Chord

>>46779590
https://youtu.be/zPM2d1q3-Gc?t=810

>>46779531
time spiral would be a hell of a drug for memedern in all honesty.
holy hell that would be amazing for control.

>>46779590
Hoogland aka boohoogland is known for his kiki-chord deck (I don't know that he invented it but he made it popular by playing it at large events). He's also known for crying about cards he doesn't like. He was a fussy babby about bloom titan and he's regularly mocked by legacy players for crying about brainstorm

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>>46779579
>Goblin Lackey

Good choice.

>>46779531
Meme and tell. Make memedern great again

>>46779780
that would last all of 3 months before aggrobabbies would torch themselves in the street and get it banned.

>>46779067
It's a terrible idea but I want to get the pieces for it and use it at kitchen table

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Serra's Sanctum. Would make multicolor enchantment decks much more reliable, instead of requiring Nykthos mana.

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>>46779714
>cut back from the Zoo-Scapeshift game
>Kibler isn't even at the table anymore

>>46779745
I also know that he hates the nickname Boohoogland, which makes it only all the more fitting.

>>46779791
>aggrobabbies set themselves on fire
Everyone wins

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UW Tron seems to do well recently and looks like a fun deck to play that's not too expensive. Should I buy it? It would cost around 350€ at magiccardmarket.
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/403245#paper

Modern night at my LGS tomorrow. Can't decide if I should play Skred or UWR pyromancer. Wat do /TG/?

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>>46780722
RG tron or gtfo

>>46779606
Speaking of Kiki Chord is it actually any good and does anyone have a list. I'm currently bouncing back and forth between burn, zoo and boggles and I want something that isn't so fucking brain dead to play.

>>46780882
>whatyearisit.png

>>46780918
Its a strong deck, usually pretty toolbox-y. There's not much reason to play it over Abzan Company tho unless you really just want to play with bolt and red cards. I think the deck can basically ONLY win through the kiki + resto combo, whereas Abzan Comp can win pretty easily with damage or the combo.

>>46780722
I feel retarded for not buying my Gifts earlier

>>46781061
Doesn't it run any backup beat sticks or value cards? Pia and Kira Nalaar? Swagtusk? Maybe one of the on color Titans? I may have to look elsewhere if the deck is 100% combo or lose.

>>46781408
Well its got a ton of 1ofs so you could probably stick something in there but I think Kiki is the highest CMC chord target, anything more and you start needing like 9 or 10 mana/permanents.

I'm sure if you wanted to take out some of the silver bullets you could jam some Voices or whatever in and make it a little more aggressive.

>>46781408
I play Kiki chord. I win like half my games off the combo. The rest I just out value my opponent then beat them down with voice, Resto Angel, and ma and pa.

>>46781344
it's not that bad in EU, they only went up from about 6-7€ to 10-11€ but I feel your pain

>>46781600
Do you have a list? I have 4 chords, 2 kiki and 4 restos lying around so figured I might give it a shot and see if I like the deck.

>>46777926
Good, goyf is op

>>46778518

It is also very easy to Glimpse the Unthinkable turn 3 and have maybe a 5/5 or better Wight. Only difference is one works better in mill and the other works better with Liliana

>>46781695

http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/399380#online Almost this exact list

>>46780867
post skred list pls

>>46781906
Thanks. If I only have 2 voices, no pontiff and no revillark what would you fill those 4 slots with until I can trade into that stuff?

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>>46781807
>mill

>>46781997
Main board lone missionary, another scavenging ooze, maybe bump up the wall count or do 2 Kikis

>>46782221
Thanks!

>>46778612
>>46781807
you don't need discard or lili to make goyf good.
The difference is that goyf works better with how the game progresses in general. The only thing you need to do to make goyf bigger is play a game of magic.

>>46781807
That creature is 100% dependent on your opponents deck containing creatures. That's awful an mill sucks, Liliana is a great removal stick with value

Burn or Zoo?
How hard does Zoo fold to a board wipe?

>>46782591
Burn

>>46782591
If you're already in topdeck mode, Damnation will end you.

>>46781916
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/reg-skred/

Not really all that compelling.

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>>46782662
>damnations are 70-80 dollars a piece

I want to go UW for things like path to exile, as was recommended a couple of threads ago, do you guys think it's worth it,

also are there any other cards that could work well in a UW tron, and be able to exploit the mana base? I was thinking secure the wastes because it has a WX cost and could put out a large number of chump block tokens, but I don't see a NEED for them, and I don't really like tokens.

>tfw local meta has 4 people playing Gifts Ungiven
>2 8rack players
>2 burn players
>1 guy on mono U tron mindslaver
>this accounts for at least half the players

I mean, I just jam 4 Leyline of Sanctity in my board, right?

>>46783635
I think I would be more than happy to see someone bring in leyline of sanctity against me when I am playing U Tron

Wurmcoil beats are the wincon much more often

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>>46783635
Leyline won't save you.

>>46783670
Well, I'm also bringing in 4 Ancient Grudge and I already have 4 Path's, and my wincon is Phyrexian Obliterator

>>46783681
Gifts Ungiven targets me. Reanimator blows when they don't get to toolbox dig for the correct target

>>46783492
>I played when they were in Standard
>I didn't think they were worth $10 at the time
>I sold a Goyf for $20

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>>46783694
>Phyrexian Obliterator

oh why didn't you just say you were playing a shit deck

I'm sure this picture scares you

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>>46783712
>I played when cavern of souls and inkmoth nexus were legal
>had a naya wolf run deck with 4 caverns and 4 inkmoths
>fell out of magic for a while and pieced out the deck
>sold both playsets for about $120 total when rotation hit
>had I held on to them for a few more years I could have tripled my profit

>>46783831
Believe it or not, I'm the only guy playing Dismember in the local meta

>>46783916
where is your store

I need to stomp some face in that shit meta

>>46783537
my list would probably be helpful.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/urzas-solitaire/

>>46783916
Your meta sounds like tabletop casual shitbrews at best if they don't run at least 2 Dismembers in the sideboard.

>>46784003
I literally listed off half the meta already

I missed
>Melira Chord
>America Control
>Lantern Control
>Fish
>Ad Nauseum

>>46783988
oh you again

BUY MORE WURMCOILS YA CHEAP FUCK

>>46784053
Can Wurmcoil be used successfully outside of Tron?

>>46784121
Not really

Maybe in a super grindy control deck as a finisher, but that's basically what U Tron is

6 mana is a lot of mana

>>46784159
Damn, he's one of my favorite creatures. Currently making RG Titanshift with a splash of white and was wondering if he could be used as a 1 of against aggro or burn, maybe have one in the sideboard.

>>46784159
>6 mana is a lot of mana
Not for Prison it isn't!
I want to run Iona, but I don't want it cluttering my hand for 6-8 turns.

>>46783874
3 years to make like $200 is kinda shit anon.

>>46784259
Titanshift is actually very reasonable deck to play Wurmcoil, when the entire point is ramping out a 6 mana creature you can certainly run a wurmcoil, however I would probably suggest thragtusk a little higher

>>46777926

That's nothing new. Jund is the "old reliable" of Modern when nobody knows what deck to play.

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Hey, looking for some criticism/suggestions on my current affinity list.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/28-10-15-dnX-affinity/

Thanks guys.

>>46784322
Would you suggest running a Sun Titan or two? In case if land hate and to get back bodies from the graveyard like Sakura Tribe Elder and Courser of Kruphix?

>>46784537
no

>>46784053
I think two wurmcoils is enough for a deck that can tutor and recycle artifacts.

>>46784572
wurmcoil is significantly better than blightsteel

>>46784452
>sea gate wreckage
dafuck is this shit? when are you ever handless? When are you handless AND have 3 mana AND a land?

-I like the idea of 1 spellskite in the main and 1 in the side though. If it's not good G1 then you just board it out. Worst case scenario it chump blocks something like a champ or eats a removal spell.

-Sideboard is pretty allright. not sure how much I love blood moon but I've never messed with it. I like using 3x Dispatch in my sideboard. Not sure what you'd take out for that. I like dispatch to deal with big things like a wurmcoil engine, goyf, gurmag/tasigur, ect.

-Feels like you need at least 2 steel overseer, prefferably 3. Sure, it gets sideboarded out a lot, but it synergizes with Ravager like crazy, and people shit their pants to try to remove it.

I only play affinity at the LGS level so take what i said with more than a pinch of salt.

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Rate my shitty meme.

Old pic, have a daybreak instead of the shield, and dryad arbor instead of the plains.

>>46784603
Yeah, but I like blightsteel.

>>46784613
Not that anon, but I've reduced opponents to no hand and no (nonland) creatures many a time. It doesn't seem like a bad card for control matchups.

>>46784650
Affinity. Specifically affinity opponents. Obviously not all decks have creatures or card advantage.

>>46784647
and I like Morphling but I'm not about to start playing it in competitive decks

>>46784684
Has dropping morphling ever made one of your opponents concede? There's nothing worse than seeing an opponent play an indestructible creature that will kill you with a single attack, and not have an answer for it. Anything that can get rid of blightbro should be weeded out by the point in the game where I play it, if I manage to draw it.

>>46784787
or you could have already won with wurmcoil 2 turns before

How do you guys afford tournaments without a job?

I've been avoiding many events, even FNM due to a lack of employment. Last event that I was at was Prerelease SOI.

>>46784812
True enough, swapping blightbro for wurm fag. Though I'll undo the switcheroo for casual matches outside of fnm.

>>46784849
Get a job

>>46784849
This is not a game for the unemployed.

>>46784613
First, thanks, for the reply.

Now I'll lead by saying it's a card that I put it when it came out to test, and when I was playing 0-1 thoughtcast so it could be wrong now. When it happens (grindy matchups) it's been amazing and has drawn me 2-4 cards over a game. I usually board it out on the draw.

I also used to run 16 lands I might go back to that.

Blood Moon has given me a lot of free wins It's been great against abzan, thopter/sword, and any tri-color mana bases. I used to main deck dispatch during the eldrazi bullshit, I don't think you need it right now.

Steel overseer is awesome I would like to go up to 3 from 2, but I'm not sure, I used to run 4 during eldrazi.

>>46784615
building the same deck, need windswept heathes, a temple garden and kor spirit dancers.

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still futzing with the amount of boardwipes needed maindeck. also considering running a grip of leyline of sanctity in the board but there's only one 'burn guy' at my lgs.

my paper list differs in that i'm running a full grip of tarns instead of checklands, which may end up being incorrect (having 12 fetches instead of 8 or 10 and checklands). i had also considered running two cryptic commands, but i'm not sold on it yet because i only want to control the game long enough to jam out an emrakul with naha's -8. got plenty of time to test though, as i don't think there are any modern cash events coming up in my area.

>>46785747

Oooh, a Nahari+Emrakul deck! I'm thinking about making one, but more grindy, with red burn (with faithless looting and the like) and white "F yo' damage" spells (plus call the gate watch, to speed up the process) and a blightsteel collosus as well, just in case. Jeskai control is also a good choice, but I didn't want to get too greedy with the mana base, and I want my more casual friends (all of them) to not hate me. I want this type of deck to see top tier play in modern, because it's freaking hilarious.

>>46786307
you could play RW Blood Moon and call it Eldritch Moon. I have a list sketched out in my head.

>>46783276
4 sheets and no moon main seems crazy especially with the high color weight creatures.
can you tell me how you use looting? when i ran it i always felt like losing a card really hurt

Why is Modern so expensive? I understand legacy and vintage, but some Modern decks are close 3000 bucks.

I want to get into an eternal format but as a new player it seems I need a budget of at least 800 to 1500 to even be viable.

I thought about Pauper but online vs paper rules and my card shops all have some dumbass version they use.

I love you, Modern, but I shall never grace your mighty decks.

>>46786624
Also, 31, married, kid, job, money goes to house, kid, wife.

I'm down for suckin' D's if it gets me cards.

>>46786624
Primarily because forced scarcity of lands, which are mandatory for 90% of modern decks, and the ones they aren't "needed" in (burn) have other cards that drain your wallet (guide). Wizards will never print a constructed playable land at anything lower than rare, and retailers like SCG will artifically inflate the prices because they KNOW everybody will need to buy a full playset to even get into the game. Aside from that, there are format staples that they can fall back on. Tarmogoyf, Lili, BabyJace, thoughtsieze. Because the state of Magic at this point is "run 3-4 color goodstuff in every deck", it means that everybody is scrambling to get the best cards, which overlap quite a lot between different decks, further increasing the cost of those chase mythics.

Wizards knows exactly what they're doing with the market. They're milking the playerbase as much as they can without risking losing too many of them.

>>46786624
Because people heavily bought into the promise of an Eternal Format with reprints.
Then the reprints never came and Wizards even started to grow a THIRD Eternal "format" with Commander, and now way too many formats eat the same fucking cardpool.
Really, at this point you might as well bite the bullet and start playing Legacy straight away.

>>46786624
>but some Modern decks are close 3000 bucks.
The most expensive deck if Jund and that's about 2k.

>I want to get into an eternal format but as a new player it seems I need a budget of at least 800 to 1500 to even be viable.
The majority of modern decks is at most 1k.

>>46786624
Goblins is tier 1 IMO and around 200 bucks.

Also Burn in Legacy is almost the same if not easier than in Modern. If you have the Modern deck it's a cheap upgrade to the legacy version. To bad no one plays legacy.

If you play for a while you collect a lot of cards and the amount of money you need to spend for any given deck goes down a large percentage.

Always keep a playset of your mana bases, then you can play w.e you want. Buy stuff when it's cheap, modern staples never go down unless they've been reprinted.

Play a fringe deck like soul sisters or stompy then expand on your collection over time so you can actually afford to play tier 1-2 decks.

>>46780722
>spikes 2 leagues because no one has a clue how to play against Tron that doesn't really care about Tron
>doing well
Yeah naw.

>>46784849
My local store does free constructed that pays out store credit. Other than that I don't go to events besides the once each year GP that me and my friends use school funds to attend.

>spend about $400 building a modern deck even though I don't really have anyone to play with
>spend about $1000 building legacy deck because I already had a handful of the staple cards and thought it would be fun
>still nobody to play with
>today notice I have 20 or so of the singles that make up a different modern deck
>watch some game play of it, decide its cool and order the bulk of the deck for a few hundred
>still no one to play with
I'll break out of this cycle eventually

>>46777797
Standard > EDH > Vintage > Lagacy > Modern

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>>46787542
>standard above anything
Top lel

>>46786307
Through the Breach already exists. It's way easier to pull off than ulting a useless planeswalker

>>46786549
Using looting to turn the extra lands and mana rocks from sheets into actual cards. Plus dropping a demigod into the yard if I get a god hand.

>>46787857
so does that generally not happen 'til like after turn four because it's hard to imagine extra mana sources in a deck with 4cmc and 5cmc wincons before then?

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Tweaked my white weenie to incorporate thalia's waifu, still don't know jackshit about the game but does it at least look fun?

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>>46787448
Have you even actively tried to find people to play with or just waiting miraculously for someone to come at you saying "let's play magic"?

>>46788096
meh.

Personally would max Preeminent captain and Captain of the watch and culminate the whole deck for the idea of Windbrisk-Preeminent-Captain of the watch.

Have you looked into mentor of the meek? I feel like you will run out of gas pretty fast. Also, you want actual thalia, not lieutenant.

Alright wanting to pick up a WUR deck as a change of pace from jund. Is Kiki control or straight control better?

Lists would be appreciated, it seems there are so many small variations and its hard to tell what lists were made for the eldrazi meta only etc.

>>46788143
Kiki gives you a fighting chance vs Tron if they don't play around it (competent pilots unlike Joe Lossett do). Otherwise doesn't really matter, just kiki'ng Clique or Snappy is just straight up value though.

>>46788263
Alright thanks, I'll probably start with kiki and work my way into both lists eventually then. I have some experience with kiki using the protour list and twin before that so shouldn't be too hard to switch into that playstyle.

>>46788328
Good luck. Remember that against Tron your best line is to just rush the combo if they don't have O-stone (or post-board Rending Volley/Sudden Shock) or snap+burn asap while holding remands for Karn and hard counters for Ulamog.

>>46779750
Glad they reprinted him for the edh deck

>>46778034
It would be the radest
I would snatch up a playset for various edh or tiny leaders decks for the cheap

>>46787542
>no Pauper

Is there a viable young pyromancer decks? I play pyromancer decks in vintage and legacy, figure I might see if I can build one in this format as well.

Do the lack of free spells and cantrips that don't suck make it unplayable?

>>46788526
Pretty much the lack of zero cost spells.

It's just not good.

>>46788564
So, I'm assuming that there are no tempo decks either?

>>46784615
Play more spirit mantle over unflinching courage, unless your meta has a lot of aggro/burn. I've also been testing Open the Armory and I've been digging it.

>>46788592
Depends. What do you consider a tempo deck?

>>46788621
A deck where the goal is to create a favorable board state, then make plays to maintain that board state. So, make a delver then stop it from dying/stop the opponent from making a bigger threat generally through mana denial or taxing counterspells

>>46788668
There are some similar to that, but it really doesn't work very well in modern. U delver style is just way too inconsistent. The bets thing to that is probably a modern death and taxes list, mono W, WG or WB.

>>46788668
Ehh, like the other reply says that doesn't really exist in modern. We just don't have the good counterspells.

You should take a look at RG Tron though. Seems like something you might enjoy.

>>46788668
>>46788838
Or Lantern Control. You literally control their draw step and what they draw.

That's more of a prison/combo deck though.

>>46788457
>Thinking Tarmo will EVER be cheap
>Not being familiarized with the concept of price memory
You are so naive.

>>46788990
If it was banned it would probably drop to around $50 - $75. Which while not cheap, is still a lot less than they currently are.

>>46789314
It's still a staple of legacy BUG decks. It's a card still in demand, unlike Twin with no place outside of casual.

>>46777926
Anyone else part of the 1% of fish players?

>>46788668
Check out UW Tron. You control the board through counters and removal until it's safe to:
>Gifts for Unburial Rites + Fatty to lock the board down
>Gifts for Mindslaver lock (which wins instantly on your opponents upkeep)
>Beat them in the face with Spaghetti, the Colanders Drained
>Unleash an army of thopters
>Cut them off relevant lands with Meme Quarter and Crucible of Worlds

>>46777926
>Jund
>Not based abzan memeries
REEEEE

>>46787804
There's a HUGE difference between needing Emmy in your hand and having to play multiples, and needing her in your deck and being able to get away with just 1. Not saying one is better than the other, just that it's not really a valid comparison in terms of function and deck construction.

>>46788526
I would look into grixis build as pyromancer. Lack of counterspells could be compensated with discards and superior removal. But overall pyromancer is a bit too slow in modern to be a thing. Delver type decks miss so many of cards that make it good in legacy that it's hard to adjust in fast meta of modern.

>>46779579

I want it. Make goblins great again.

>>46788089
if you have 3 mana sources in hand and 3 on the field on turn 3 then you can dump a source already. Plus I have a really grindy meta.

>>46788802
you mean WR Spirit Moon?

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>>46787804
>Through the Breach already exists. It's way easier to pull off than ulting a useless planeswalker

>cycling cards is useless
>exiling permanents is useless
>summoners-pact-plus-sneak-attack is useless

/tg/, ladies and gentlemen

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>>46786907
>Goblins

>>46777926
Goyf is way too expensive a card for them to just ban it outright. How would they ever sell another Modern Masters?

Xth for modern enchantress would be playable if the stupid faggots had made Herald of the Pantheon an enchantment creature.

>Opponent has Elesh Norn in play, no other creatures
>I play and kick a Gatekeeper of Malakir
Does it survive?

>>46791175
right on, thanks

>>46792086
Why you people CANNOT FUCKING USE GOOGLE?!?!?!?!??!!??!??!?!

>>46792086
No, because the Gatekeeper resolves, it just dies as soon as it enters the battlefield.

>>46792086
They both die. Gatekeeper as a state based action, Elesh when the etb resolves.

>>46784290
>3 years to make like $200 is kinda shit anon.

This is exactly why MTG "speculating" is so cancerous. Retards think they're making huge amounts of money but in reality not anything at all

>>46778157
>tfw started building Faeries during the Memedrazi Incident

>pretty much done building and then out of fucking nowhere Ancestral Vision unban enjoy your after-purchase Blue tax!

I'm hating myself for not buying them back in 2015 when they were like a fifth of their current price.

>>46792134
Because fuck you

>>46792154
>>46792155
I really wish state based effects had a response phase. Lost a game last night becuase I couldn't resolve a creature to activate metalcraft to dispatch my opponents elesh norn.

I need more spell skites

I memed my way to a 4-0 last night at my lgs's weekly modern event with this meme:

4 Jeskai Ascendancy
4 Fatestitcher
4 Noble Hierarch
4 Remand
4 Path to Exile
3 Lightning Bolt
4 Serum Visions
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Thought Scour
3 Ideas Unbound
2 Sleight of Hand
4 Flooded Strand
4 Wooded Foothills
2 Steam Vents
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Breeding Pool
1 Stomping Ground
1 Plains
1 Island
1 City of Brass
3 Faerie Conclave

Sideboard
2 Dispel
2 Spell Pierce
3 Young Pyromancer
2 Monastery Mentor
2 Grim Lavamancer

Only dropped 2 games the whole night. Am I memeing hard enough?

>>46792229
>Can't use google
>Is a baddie
every time

>>46779531

this >>46779750

>>46788097
I look for people. I'm actually in charge of running an (unsanctioned) FNM for a store that has a turn out of 10-15 people each friday. But they're all kitchen table players with modified intro pack decks and glorified draft decks. It's a small rural town and the closest sanctioned location is in a different state.

One day I'll have a Saturday off and won't mind driving out and staying out late to play modern or legacy but for now it's not feasible

>>46792372
Just sell and buy on mtgo, don't let the hearthstone reddit crowd convince you it doesn't work well and enjoy playing at your own leisure

>tfw the 2 nearby stores both have a Modern FNM but no other Modern tournaments

Where is the logic in that? Why can't they do their Modern tournaments on different days it makes no sense really.

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Hello all,

I have a deck I've been working on, and I'd like opinions. It's mostly green ramp/infect, without Noble Hierarch because I don't have that kind of money right now.

Mainboard

2x Apostle's Blessing
4x Birds of Paradise
4x Blighted Agent
4x City of Brass
4x Elvish Mystic
10x Forest
4x Glistener Elf
4x Groundswell
4x Mutagenic Growth
2x Pendelhaven
4x Plague Myr
4x Rancor
4x Vines of Vastwood
2x Wall of Roots
4x Yavimaya Coast

Sideboard

2x Become Immense
2x Dispel
2x Distortion Strike
4x Phytoburst
2x Spell Pierce


Thoughts?

>>46793098
Drop the shitty ramp. Hierarch is for exalted more than the ramp. If you really want a manadork, play 4 birds and that's it. Fill the rest of the space with pump and protection.

>>46793098
You would be better off replacing the birds and walls with more pump spells. Exalted is mostly the point of Hierarch. Also need inkmoth nexus.

>>46793274>>46793295
Wouldn't I need a ramp of some sort to be able to get my creatures out as quickly as possible, without wasting the first turn?

>>46794024
No. On your first turn you could play a glisteniner elf and kill on your second turn. Or play a blighted agent turn 2 and kill in your third turn. If you ramp turn 1, the earliest you ever kill is turn 3. The reason Hierarch is played is because 2x +4/+4 on a 1 power dude is only 9 infect. Hierarch let's you kill turn 3 with only 2 pump spells. Bird doesn't do that. So without the exalted trigger, you're better off with more protection since you're liable to play a longer game. Also you really should play Gitaxian probe. The info is useful, and the card is cheap so no excuses. Also plague my is Dog Dicks Bad. If you want another infect guy play ichorclaw myr or necropede. Or inkmoth nexus.

>>46789853
I want list please

>>46792372
That sounds like a lovely play environment

Do you guys Netdeck?

Why is Netdecking hated so much?

>>46794457
How so? It's pretty boring. Everyone is playing "block your craw warm with my 3 grizzly bears" magic. Games drag on forever and they're incredibly simple. And I always win. I don't mind the relaxed atmosphere but I wish I could have a competitive game every now and then.

>>46794849
Sour grapes. Poorfags salty about things they can't afford

>>46794849
Special snowflakes who are bad and/or poor like to "brew"and then hate on netdeckers who beat their bad piles with good decks and accuse them of having no creativity and being "pay to win." I love brewing and have done well with some brews but I also sometimes just play a stock infect list because it's a good deck.

>>46794849
Netdecking is hated particularly by casual players. The usual arguments are that it takes zero effort, creativity or intelligence to just consult google or mtggoldfish and copy a decklist. Part of the fun of magic is looking at cards and trying to create something which is truly your own.
Most times its just, 'I lost to this guy's deck, so he must have copied a winning list off the internet'.

I do netdeck, because the internet is a goldmine of ideas. It is just another esource, there to be used. If I want to make a shitbrew like a Wall tribal deck, I'll look at several different decks about them instead of looking at every single Wall on Gatherer. That'll give me ideas ranging from what colors I should run, to what cards are good in that kind of deck, to secret tech or combos that could easily fit into it.
Chances are that no matter what deck you want to make, someone else has had the same idea and published it online, so you can use them for inspiration, even in a casual kind of deck.

In a really competitive environment, everyone netdecks. Most people will probably be playing some of the better decks if they want to win. Whether you want to play with those decks, or find good sideboard options against them, or even try and brew a rogue/anti-meta deck, looking at those decks becomes a matter of necessity.

>>46794849
there are a lot of people who think you should be able to build a car if you want to drive it

quite obviously this is bullshit as some people are just bad at brewing but good at playing


I personally still despise netdecking, but not for the aformentioned reason
netdecking is just only possbile with highly established decks that got most of their core set in stone - this leads to stale metas if WotC (once again) messes with the format

playing against the same Affinity build over and over is just A: boring and B: does not make me a better player

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>>46795319
every liberal arts major and most, but not all, STEM students in the american post-secondary education system believe something along the lines of that brand of socialism.

>>46795098
that being said, Emerica, aka MAGA (Make America Great Again) aka Jeskai Nahiri is the meme of the moment and candidate for most fun deck in the format.

I mean just look at this bitch. Card filtering, removal and free Emrakuls all rolled into one 4-drop walker. How could you not want to play this card?

>>46795349
Well, haven't netdecks been tested for hours in order to come up with something that works very well? If you don't like the lack of diversity in cards, wouldn't this be more WotC's fault than the players?

A deck like Affinity has a lot of cards set in stone because there is frankly nothing better that can be ran. Even going into general color or deck type builds will have you using cards that are must-plays, simply because they are too good to not run (snapcaster, path, bolt, etc.).

I understand if someone whats to limit themselves from using the best possible tools, and frankly they may do it because they can't afford the best cards, don't want to spend the money for the best cards, or don't know that the cards exist. But building something out of the norm and then complaining that it loses to a netdeck is the most asinine thing that a player can do imo.

tl:dr some cards are better than others

>>46795492
i feel compelled to make a r/w prison brew with her in it.

>>46795492
>for a whole four mana, you too can loot once and then do nothing else on your turn four while your opponent swings with Goyfs and eldrazi!
laughingbabyjaces.jpg

>>46795349
>blinkmoth springleaf ornithopter mox plating, pass
>for the 3rd time tonight

There's so much fucking affinity at my shop I have 8 sideboard cards for it I hate affinity

>>46796009
>swing with eldrazi
>ELDRAZI
DED DECK

>>46786624
>>46786752
>>46786650
>Been wanting to make an affinity deck for about a year nowand just been slowly buying the parts
>3 ravagers, 4 etched champions, an inkmoth and a Opal in I now have to pay like 400 more dollars for the alnds and opals and 60 more for a ravager since it almost trippled in price over the past 5 months
I think I may just say fuck it and play Legacy affinity so I dont end up at a loss if the deck gets shit on and banned in modern, I only play it to have fun with ravager and Etched anyways

>>46793082
It's the same reason competition open up next to each other.

>>46796009
>jamming a walker on turn 4 with no board facing down creaturebeats.dec
nobody is that stupid. your actual turn 4 is wrath in that instance. holy shit.

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>>46786750
This. Wizards hasn't printed cards to please players in a long time. They only care about pleasing their shareholders and working with the secondary sellers to keep card prices high. This is also a reason why speculation is such a big problem in the MtG community. The market gets manipulated and people don't want to get burned or want to make a quick buck when something spikes, which drives up the cost that much more.

It's essentially the corporatist economic model that America falls under where the large companies (SCG, TCGPlayer, etc.) Collude with the government (Wizards) for control of the market to fuck over the consumer for the profit of the elite. Wizards doesn't care about the players, they care about the shareholders.

>>46787542
Pauper>EDH>Legacy>Modern>Vintage>Standard

>>46786750
>BabyJace
Found the player that's only been playing for 6 months and stumbled upon the
>Lewizardsscgforcedmarket meme
get c'u'cked kiddo. If you cannot afford a kids game just go home lol

>>46797512
>I don't understand economics and can't tell when a system is blatantly corrupt

>>46797512
>it's okay for a card that was printed less than a year ago to be worth $100 a copy

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Hey guys I was wanting to make a cheap modern deck to play at my LGS, now I would go abzan whatever since I want to play Rhino again but I sure as fuck dont have 800 to buy up the liliana's, goyfs and i think im missing a playset of the older fetch lands.

With that in mind, I was looking at this shit and wondered if it was any good. Only thing I would need to buy is honestly the Hero of Bladehold. http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/383749#paper

>>46797790
Careful you don't hurt your knees jumping to conclusions kiddo
>>46797816
Waaaaah I can't handle things increasing in price! I can't even make money because I'm poor! Boo-hoo everything should be cheaper because I'm poor and deserve them! If you were good at this game you'd already have picked up your copies.
It musty be so hard for people to wake up and find new ways to be poor.

>>46797936
Don't you have somewhere else to be a worthless prick?

>>46797975
>worthless
Awww. Poor people try to drag others to their level

>>46798024
>lookmomdamagecontrol.jpg

>>46798068
Damage control for what? Some peon can't afford a children's game but wants to sit at the big boys table? Psssh lol Okay kiddo. Have fun being poor and doing whatever the hell poor people do given the date I bet you are all off smoking mj and being degenerates haha

>>46798116
See, now you're making the assumption that I'm the same person you were talking to before.
Listen man, nobody gives a shit about how much money you have, these people are complaining because a card costs 100$ for just one copy.
If you wanna waste your money on pieces of cardboard, that's cool.
But I'm gonna go get my car detailed, and play with this vintage deck that I've owned the pieces to since they came out.

>>46790063
I play Abzan anon, don't worry I cast siege rhinos every Monday and Friday. List?

is zoo a meme

>>46797906
Do you have $300 to buy fetches, shocks, thoughtseize and inquisitions?

You cab try it at an LGS but prepared to get ass blasted

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/fear-the-mill/

Any suggestions on this? I probably need a bit of turn 1 stuff.

>>46798828
Hedron crab exists.
Also archive trap and maybe some relics.

Even if this ain't /int/ fuck Americans desu.

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slightly updated!

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Should I break open a graded 9.0 card to play with it? I bought it cheaper or as cheap as an ungraded one on ebay. I really just wanted a NM foil to sleeve up and use.

>>46800773
Couldnt you just sell the graded one and buy a normal copy? Seems like a waste but a cards a card I guess.

>>46801472
Eggs will always be bad because it gets hit by storm hate, graveyard hate, artifact hate, and judge hate.

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>>46789504
Yep. Currently tuning my deck for the new meta. There are like 2 zoo players and 4 burn players at my lgs, so I'm main decking 4 snag and 2 tidebinder mages and looking forward to the free wins. I'm also running 3 chalice of the void in the side, and they have been amazing so far.

>>46800773
If you live in Utah, I'll give you a PSA 9 one for that one.

Why should I play Burn when every player sideboards against it?

>>46802374
Cheap, requires 0 skill.
Plus, most SB answers are already maindecked, like Skull Crack and Atarka's Command.

>>46802374
Good g1 win%, there's a reason people run things in there sideboards

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How do you deal with chalice while playing ad nauseam?

>>46786624
play mono white turbofog T1 modern = 100$ without Ensnaring Bridge

>>46802871
Is it really? Got a deck list? A tier 1 Modern deck for 100 sounds bullshit.

>>46802852
"Disenchant" or "Shatter"

>>46802928
just kidding its not T1 but it shits on the face of every creature based deck which modern is full of,just google modern W turbofog

>>46802928
>>46802973
U/w turbofog is better desu

>>46802944
thanks

>>46799681
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/copymill/

How's it look now?

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Would a land like this ever be balanced? Are there enough drawbacks to justify its upsides?

Since Eye ban, has Eldrazi been doing anything? MTGtop8 doesnt have any updated lists. Im assuming its dead?

>>46803402
No.
Play it turn one and nothing bad happens, or use the mana it produces to kill the creature that got annihilator 2.

>>46803402
>comes in untapped
>use mana it produces to kill thing with annihilator
>free deck manipulation
Jesus Christ no. Library of Alexandria isn't this good.

>>46778179
If you just put him in a random green deck, he doesn't do anything. Tarmogoyf is good because when combined with black discard or blue cantrips, he's almost always a 3/4 on turn 2, and a 4/5 or 5/6 by mid/late game. He's an incredibly efficient 2 drop that your opponent has to spend premium (non-bolt) removal on. The old saying is: Tarmogoyf doesn't die to removal; removal dies to Tarmogoyf.

Shit I just got wombo combo'd. Turns out there's no pause for triggers between the effects of a fused split card. Motherfucker used brain in a jar to cast a fused breaking // entering and reanimated emrakul

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>>46794849
I hate the average netdecker because he doesn't know his own goddamn deck and as a result takes forever to play. Anyone who can't list off their 75 from memory shouldn't be playing in a fucking tournament.

>>46800773
>Only $120

Why bother getting it graded?
How much does it even cost to grade a card?

Anyway, go ahead and use it, as long as you can keep your deck safe from any potential theives.

>>46806196
probably for in the future if it keeps being worth money.

>>46803326
Well, I'm not an expert on mill decks, but I know that modern gives you a ton of options for milling.

You can try using this for a reference.UB is often the color of choice for milling, and this article has both budget and non-budget brews.

http://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-94-20-tix-modern-ub-mill

>>46789504
CoCo Fish.
Ended up siding out Master of Waves anyway so I just replaced him with something that lets me do a fun combat trick or rebuild after a board wipe.

>>46806088
you don't hate netdeckers you just hate noobs

there is often overlap, but even people who brew their entire decks sometimes need to play it a lot to play optimally and quickly

>>46794849
I love netdeckers. I personally like to netdeck because I can take a top 8 list, change a few cards or maybe an entire color and it's mine.
Netdecking gives me a better feel for what most people are using in the deck, so I know what cards to beat. At competitive events like a gp, netdecks are what make up most of the meta.
At casual events like fnm(mine at least), netdecks make up maybe half of the meta.
I've seen decks that are original and fun like kithkin tron and vampire rapehouse be great with the latter actually taking first at an fnm event once, but netdecks are typically made of the best cards in the format, being quite expensive and equally effective.

Tl,dr netdecking gives the player a better feel for what's doing well in modern, thus making that player better at the game.

>>46806088
>Anyone who can't list off their 75 from memory shouldn't be playing in a fucking tournament

I'd be very surprised if the average tourney player could. You'll often be playing a variation of the deck tweeked for a specific meta based on what you think will be there. I'd even say that at least one top16 from most SCG and GrandPrix couldnt do that. They might get really close, but naming all 75 with 100% accuracy, especially with a sideboard you likely dont normally play would be difficult.

Also sometimes taking your time at certain instances can bluff an opponent one way or another. I've played at large tourneys, and I can say with certain decks, acting indecisive during the right time can win you matches, especially if you're playing tempo or control.

>>46807763
I love Jund, it's a deck I've played since the begininng of modern, and while it is mediocrity.dec, I don't have the heart to stop playing it. I've got other decks that are better, but Jund has the most sentimental value as a deck.

>>46808119
i feel you senpai

>>46806824
Knowing how to change a few cards without hurting a deck is something a lot of the "brewers" I play with tend to make decks way worse. Legacy RUG delver without goyf worse. Treating snapcaster like a 2 drop worse. Hymn to tourach in a deck with 2 black lands worse. "Tribal" theme worse.

>>46808053
>You'll often be playing a variation of the deck tweeked for a specific meta based on what you think will be there.
But if you actually made those metagame calls yourself you would remember the reasoning behind them, allowing you to reconstruct the deck from memory.

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>go 4-0 in a 32 man tournamnet
>go 0-4 in a 10 person fnm

what the fuck is wrong with me, I lost to tribal centaurs.

If any of you shitters are planning to go to gpla today is the last day to pre-reg for $60.

>>46808300
Hey I got blown out by the jankiest fucking protean hulk deck at a casual FNM. Sometimes it happens

>>46808296
If you tweak your sideboard enough it's reasonable to not remember what's in it this week

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Is Mono White Turbo Fog the cheapest Tier 1 deck? Really love Burn but do does every other scrub in my local scene. Lots of anti Burn tech even in main board and circle of protection everywhere (in Pauper at least.)

I just want the best possible deck for the least amount of money. I have most of the basic Burn spells, 4 foundry Street denizen, and 3 Goblin bushwhackers.

Is Goblins total shit in Modern? I'm debating between Goblins (easy switch from a Pauper deck) or Burn. It just seems Burn is fairly looked down on and every new player uses it.

I used to make Pauper General here but no one gave a shit.

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Is SOI gonna be shit for Modern?
I don't really see much that can see play...

>>46808381
Wotc doesn't design for or care about modern. If anything new ends up modern playable it's a complete and unforseen coincidence.

Sets are designed 60% for limited, 30% for filthy casuals and 10% for standard.

>>46808410
I know, but still...

I was hopping to get something.
Specially now that we don't have coresets....

maybe it's time I quit

>>46808425
Come to the Pauper side. All the fun. None of the investment.

>>46808053
I'd say that's true for certain decks like pod or Kiki Chord, but others not so much.

>>46808381
Yes.

>>46808444
I'll try.

Is there are format where you can only use uncommons?
That could prove interesting...

>>46808381
nahiri is good. wouldn't call it a format staple just yet but it has legs in the right shell.

why the hell is the rack 15 on mtgo

Could mill potentially see play in this new Meta? It's not something that a lot if decks would be prepared for and tron is almost nonexistent

>>46808810
No. If grindstone or helm of obedience isn't in the format, there's no reason to play mill

>>46792284
I actually think this deck is really cool. Do you think the 4 Hierarchs are enough dorks/ramp? Have you considered birds or caryatid?

>>46792284
Why City of Brass over Mana Confluence? Isn't Mana Confluence just a better City of Brass?

Looking to buy a new deck, been in the format for 2 years on/off. Currently have living end and boggles, and I want a new deck that doesn't get crushed by a single card out of the sideboard. Looking at some type of control maybe since my other two are aggro and combo. Got a budget of 600, flexible, plus 160 of trade value of an edh deck I'm taking apart. Ideas?

>>46808935
You can't kill someone with a bolt while you're at 1 life with a mana confluence.

And tangle wire/Rishadan port aren't in this format

>>46809040
You can't do that with City of Brass either.

>>46809073
tap for mana. trigger goes on stack. Cast bolt. Fuck off.

>>46808946
J U N D

or just Abzan or Mardu

>>46809092
On top of that the art on city of brass is way better

I wanted to get into Burn. Maybe pay for a 20 dollar card here and there.

>Goblin Guide
>Arid Mesa

WHAT the FUCK!

How bad is Goblins?
I really want to play Modern but my shitty budget makes me keep playing pauper with idiots that homebrew rules all the time (I.E. not going by MTGO pool and banlist but banning Goblin Grenade after I use it one night).

>>46808946
is this Wiley?

This is paul.

>>46809246
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-67-13-tix-modern-mono-red-burn

>>46809139
>$300 playset of lilis
>$600 playset of goyfs
What, son?

Also would like a deck that often goes 50/50 with one of my two other decks, so I can show what modern looks like to my friends that aren't that serious about mtg. But that's not so important.

>>46809246
i'm running naya burn off of 8 fetches and it's generally fine 4 bloodstained mire and 4 wooded foothills.

>>46808444
There's like 5 viable decks in pauper it seems really stale senpai

>>46809289
Go to bed Paul.

Did you really lose to that guy playing unsleeved centaurs? I'm disappointed.

>>46809323
holy shit, can't believe it lol.

yeah, i went 0-4, it was pretty fucking lame, spencer isn't a bad player though, he just has 0 money.

>>46809321
There's plenty of viable decks in pauper, they just aren't necessarily tier one. I went 4-0 at my lgs's pauper tournament last week running persist combo.

>>46809348
I have a friend that plays a lot of pauper (on mtgo) and he said you either play delver, tron, stompy, affinity, or burn/rdw none of them sound terribly interesting so I dismissed it

>>46809293
Mardu mid only runs 3.

More practically, maybe a Naya Burn or a meme gifts deck.

>>46809348
Pauper is my favorite format, I play pauper leagues online all the time with brews, and usually do pretty well. I average 3-2 depending on the deck, when I use decks that aren't tier 1 or 2.

What were you looking to build that doesn't seem viable?

>>46809405
Eh, that's like saying modern is just jund/affinity/burn/zoo/company. They're the most represented but there are plenty of other perfectly viable decks

>>46809323
>>46809337
Wiley you can't just say you're disappointed in me and then go to sleep.

>>46809553
I'm working right now, not gonna sleep till past 6am.

Besides, losing to a deck that plays a bunch of 3/3s when your game plan is 'play a bunch of spells that deal 3 damage' is a little disappointing.

Think we'll ever see a land that's

Mountain Island
Enters the battlefield tapped
When this enters the battlefield, add 1 to your mana pool

>>46809685
As in one colorless on ebt, maybe. We got crumbling visage, but I doubt we'll get any reverse lands, especially ones that are fetchable.

>>46809685
Also, fuck off
>>/cct/

>>46809660
he had an enchantment that whenever a creature he controlled was targeted by a spell or ability it got +3/+3.

It was surprisingly not a great matchup

So I got a GR Tron list that needs a bit of updating. thinking about just taking out Emmy, a Spellskite, and a mainboard Progenitus Relic to put in 3 Ulamogs. This a good plan?

Also, how well would Sanctum of Ugin work as a replacement for Eye of Ugin?

>>46810512
Sanctum sucks and Academy Ruins never gets online for Mindslaver lock. Mikokoro is the real deal, drawing cards for your opponent doesn't matter since you're dead by turn 4 vs Burn or Infect anyway and you win anything else, especially all the meme foundries and Jund, with Ugin or Ulamog and 2 draws per turn gets you both/either or at least a Wurmcoil to buy time fairly consistently. 4 Wurmcoils 2 Ulamogs 3 Spellskites gives you chances g1 vs aggro with Emrakul in sideboard for control and Scapeshift (where the plan is to just eat lands and rush Emrakul asap).

>>46794849
The hate netdeckers get is not justified. You can compare it to learning different openings in chess. It's using the information people have gathered through extensive testing to make a viable deck. That being said, straight up netdecking, without having a knowledge of why the cards were selected or how the format is, is just wrong. You can/should make adjustments for your meta and become a better player that way. Brewing is fun, but most people that brew draw their inspiration from other brews that worked. It's pretty difficult to reinvent the wheel when the card pool is limited, but it can happen once in a blue moon.

>>46795566
well anon, I actually wrote that it is WotC's fault
>if WotC (once again) messes with the format
but then again it is us players deciding what we play and where we set our goals

we just had Eldrazi Winter and I actually played during original Affinity
cards and decks sticking out is one side of the problem - people playing those cards are the other side

and before you start: I am not saying "ban X because it is to stronk!"
I am merely saying a format with an even powerlevel always makes for better games
not everything should be playable, but real diversity (not WotC diversityTM) is good - I think there is no arguing about this

>>46810512
Taking out Spellskite is a pretty bad idea.

>>46810648
The hate that netdeckers get is in a sense the hate that Modern as a format should be getting. We all know how little skill it actually takes to win with Infect or Burn. The fact that the game lets you get away with winning with hands that take quite literally zero thought is the real problem. Magic is not a thinking man's game.

>>46800773
>being a collector fag

kys please

Modern needs cards that can self-regulate a format. At present Thoughtseize is basically the only card that can do that. Force of Will would help greatly. I'll happily ditch a Snapcaster Mage to Force of Will that Goblin Guide turn 1 because it's going to save me a lot of health in the long run.

>>46811048
I agree, we need top too

>>46811069
Considering how aggressive the format is, I don't entirely disagree. I think Top is monstrously powerful, but only functions in slow decks which aren't really a thing anyway. The main worry is a fast Countertop ending matches in a way Chalice of the Void can only dream of, but Countertop relies on having similar CMCs in your deck. It works so well for Miracles because Legacy is a low mana format. Modern is a little more spread apart, and if Countertop became a thing and control got a boost, the CMCs would spread even more. Mentor Control would be an amusing thing to see.

>>46810877
>complaining about burn again

It's not even easy to win with burn

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>>46811124
>three times seven! hold skullcrack in response to connecting wurmcoil/infinite life combo! hard!

>>46811135
Burn is pretty easy but it's not the easiest, that title goes to R/G tron

>>46811365
Kek, apply yourself.

>>46811365
Identifying which of your mismatches Tron pieces you have takes far more skill than anything in Burn.

>sideboard a leyline
>mulligan until you have one in your starting hand
>yfw burn.dek scoops on turn 0

>>46808888
4 Hierarchs is plenty, although they could be birds. But the exalted is relevant if you need to try to beatdown. Fatestitcher is actually more integral to going off than hi erarch. Hierarch can get you started and let you kill turn 2, but Fatestitcher can come online midway through the combo, let you generate mana, tap down blockers, etc to actually kill.

>>46811389
>what is guidos and swiftspears
>what is destructive revelry

>>46811389
>>46811750
also Atarka's Command

>>46811135
>>46811388
>Burn is easy meme

If its so easy then you damn well now how easy it is to stop burn as well.

>Just hold skullcrack XD!

Fucking retards who can't beat burn I swear.

>>46811785
It doesn't matter if you're Einstein if your deck is constructed in such a way it has trouble dealing with a series of cards which all say take 2-4. For instance with Tron if you don't draw Claims for eggs, Feed the Clan and/or Wurmcoil into Ulamog for fast finish and the retard on the other side does draw skullcrack effects and enough damage you're just fucked and there's nothing you can do about it. Burn in MTG is the easiest deck/archetype to pilot in the history of collectible card games and no amount of greentext bitching will change it.

>>46811836
>Needs to be Einstein to pilot a deck

I bet you played Splinter Twin, eh?

>>46811928
>>46811928
>>46811928

Abandon ship.