/swg/- Toasty Edition

>>46630991
Sand people atrocities are always funny.

Do the ewok one next!

>>46631124
Needs to be intercut with this scene
>https://youtu.be/raF9wfPxir8?t=7s

Friendly reminder that all of Wave 3 of Armada has not yet been revealed.

>>46630991

>not #JawaLivesMatter Edition

>>46631340
Yeah, it has. From the announcement:

>Wave III introduces yet another dimension to your battles. Its two expansions, the Imperial Assault Carriers Expansion Pack and the Rebel Transports Expansion Pack, introduce the "flotilla" to Armada.

>Wave III
>Its two expansions

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>>46631124
What is this from?

>>46631619
Star wars rebels. I believe the episode name is "Brothers of the broken horn" or something to that effect.

If Finn + Poe doesn't happen by Episode IX I am going to be pissed

Reposting from last thread for some feedback, would I be better suited swapping out K4 for Dengar? Dengar would allow for a bit more dial freedom and would also kick in on every attack rather than on just who I happen to be able to TL.

IG88-B (50)
Aggressor (36), Crack Shot (1), Fire-Control System (2), Heavy Laser Cannon (7), Feedback Array (2), Autothrusters (2)

Bossk (50)
YV-666 (35), Marksmanship (3), Heavy Laser Cannon (7), 4-LOM (1), Zuckuss (1), K4 Security Droid (3)

>>46632031
Nah, even with the current trend of fangirl pandering, it'll be a cold day in hell afore they sell out to the slash crowd

>>46631124
>clearly show the triggers
>clearly show that the droid is holding the guns by the handles with clamp hands and is incapable of pulling the triggers
I'LL ALLOW IT

>>46632031
Guess you'll be pissed then senpai

>>46632133
>>46632180

They're eye fucking eachother in every scene they share in VII. It has to happen.

>>46632215
fujoshi pls

looking for maps, don't need to be grids or anything, of a office, a factory, and a hanger bay. ideally starshihp-oriented, but at this point I'll take just about anything.

anyone able to help me out?

>>46632133
A lot of writers are very familiar with the slash crowd, and get a certain enjoyment from throwing them the occasional bone or two and watching them run with it. Supernatural is a good example of this...

>>46632215

Please stop trying to ship your dumb ass fantasies.

>>46632044
Dengar's good. Like, really good. Itms not a bad idea, due to his "reverse Predator" ability. Plus you get to reroll an additonal die if you're targeting a unique pilot. If you go with Dengar, you could also swap out Marksmanship for Predator and laugh as you are *almost* always rerolling 3 dice an attack.

>>46632298
Yeah, they bait the slash girls, but they'll never actually give them a real pairing

>>46632302
Please stop being a a cock-fearing faggot, and just suck it already!

>>46632302

Search your feelings, you know it to be true

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>>46632298
>A lot of writers are very familiar with the slash crowd, and get a certain enjoyment from throwing them the occasional bone or two and watching them run with it.
>Acknowledging one of the most cancerous parts of a fanbase
Why would writers ever do this?

>>46630991

How much does it fuck shit up if I make attacking another starship a Gunnery v, Piloting thing rather than Gunnery v. Silhouette difference? Ran the Beginner's Game last night and RAW didn't seem particularly janky.

>>46632358
But they'll imply the fuck out of it...

The main reason why they won't go that extra step is because shows/movies lose the majority of insecure male viewership the minute two dudes bluntly decide to play hide-the-sausages.

>>46632410
>Acknowledging one of the most cancerous parts of a fanbase
>Why would writers ever do this?
They may be cancerous, but they tune in every fucking week and buy all the merch

>>46632455

>decide to play hide-the-sausages
Fun fact, this is not a real game that homogays play. It is entirely made up and even if it were real it'd be a waste of good food.

>>46632505
Now I just have a picture of two gay guys searching their apartment for the sausages the other hid.

>>46632410
Because contrary to your (very) sheltered and subjective opinion, it's not really that cancerous. They don't spread their fiction beyond their own little circle, keep to themselves, and are immensely passionate about the medium. Cancerous fanbases tend to be groups like the 40kids, who try to cram the medium down everyone else's throat. Or make a bajillion fucking threads of "-X- vs Imperium of Man, WE'RE GOING TO CAPSLOCK THE FUCK OUT OF YOU UNTIL YOU ADMIT OUR SETTING IS BEST!!!"

>>46632505
You do realize what a euphemism is, I hope...

>>46632455
Execs maybe but I doubt that anyone who isn't a bible thumper could give a shit. I'm totally cool with Poe being a macho gay guy but Finn seems pretty straight, especially after the whole "So you have a boyfriend?l thing with Rey

>>46632531
Doctor Whofag detected

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>>46632531
Thank you, that is the best definition of gay people I ever read!

>>46632572
Yes but you need to remember that shippers will completely rewrite how the character in order to rationalize their desired pairings.

>>46632572
Sportsfags and "every day dudebros" tend to shirk away from the slightest inclining of homosex. Just look at Brokeback Mountain. If it had been two chicks, the audience rception would have been completely reversed.

>>46632379

I could care less about cocks. It's the terrible fantasies that you assholes ship that bug the hell out of me. It's just like the Rey/Kylo crap.

Nobody fucking cares.

>>46632584
Eh, Blink is the best episode. But I prefer Star Wars, Firefly, and the Expanse.

>>46632606

Best explanation of shippers. Thank you.

>>46632618
I really don't get why people are insecure like that. It may not be your thing but 2 dudes ramming each other is pretty manly.

>>46632628
Actually, quite a few people care. That's literally why it's a thing.

And it's not any different than any of the rule-34 artwork.

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>>46632711
In fiction it is.
In reality it's more like two bears fighting over a salmon.

>>46632733
The funniest part of that for me is Rey's expressions.

>>46632733

Alright fucker, you win. I withdraw all criticism of shipping because.... humor.

>>46632797
If every thousand poorly edited shitfics results in just one Gem like this, I'll call it a net positive

>>46632895
This is best ship
https://youtu.be/JbpgM-JTang?t=3m48s

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>>46632711
>2 dudes ramming each other is pretty manly.

>>46632410
Because the current crop of writers are all faggot nerds

>>46632606
we are on /tg.
we are the cancerous fan base by any measure and that's before you start looking at tg's version of 40K.

In these threads alone you've got the Katarnfags, the Luke+Mara Everywhere, TR8-R, the Cult of Wedge, and a host of other dumbass fanon people get pissed off isn't canon.

Tg talking cancerous fanbases is some serious pot and kettle shit

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>>46633298
Behold, this is one of many faces of /swg/ cancer.

>>46633056
name something with a greater concentration of manliness than two dudes fucking

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>>46633298
>In these threads alone you've got the Katarnfags, the Luke+Mara Everywhere, TR8-R, the Cult of Wedge, and a host of other dumbass fanon people get pissed off isn't canon.

>>46633353
Three guys fucking

>>46633353
All male human centipede.

>>46633342
if I had a picture of Moff Hissa getting dumped in lava this is where it would go

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>>46633298

>>46633364
You are alright in my book.

Just played my first game of X Wing tonight, against another person who also only had a starting set (he had the first, I had the TFA version). It was a long match of 6 total units constantly bumping each other, at least 2 stress tokens on the field at all times.

And it was great.

>>46633353
Gaston. He's even got the whole condescending douchebag shtick down.

>>46633426
Welcome to X-Wing! Even when things turn into a furball of bumps, the game is still awesome!

>>46633447
gaston x Simon Belmont otp

If I buy into another specialization/career and it has a class skill the same as my current one does it in anyway alter it?

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>>46632733
You owe me a pair of new sides you bastard.

Quick, two names for imperial soldiers.

One is quick witted, honorable, and functions as a leader

the other is a bit more unhinged and just a little bit bloodthirsty.

>>46633491
Well hell. You got me there.

>>46633531
I'm so naming an orbital craft "My Sides" next time I play Kerbal...

>>46633426
>>46633479

What's a good start of ships to get? I want to main Imperial, and I guess that some more regular TIE Fighters is a good idea, mix it up with a bomber perhaps, or the specialised ones. Perhaps the Veteran pack, wossitcalled, Imperial Aces?

>>46633544
Kev Aron

Blunt Thundurr

>>46633739
Blunt Thundurr is my hero.

>>46633544

"Slips" Parmezhan

Chaztruck Blazzclump

>>46633739
>Blunt Thundurr
>>46633816
>Chaztruck Blazzclump

What the hell guys? Make a solid case for Thundrr or Blazzclump and I will do it, I swear to god. Tell me their edgey backstory that made them into what they are.

>>46632455

They imply jack dick.

If Twitter was around '77 we would've seen a million assertions Luke and Han wanted to bang each other.

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>>46633528

>>46633670
Honestly, there are no truly "bad" ships to get. There are some lemons currently, but FFG tries to bump them back into play when they see a problem.

For Imperials, if a few more Ties is never a bad plan. Two more in Blister form would supplement the two from the starter set nicely, and round you out with most of the pilots. The Force Awakens starter is also a good purchase, as it comes with a pair of Tie/fo and some different cards. The two ties are drastically different in how they play, as well. Imperial Veterans and an Interceptor is also a good buy, as it gets you all the Interceptor pilots, Push the Limit, and all the Interceptors you are likely to need. Bombers aren't bad, but hold off on them until the Imperial Veterans pack comes out or until you get a Guidance Chip card. Which comes in the Tie Advanced Prototype, and is a fun little ship as well.

After that, just get what you think would be fun to play with. Tie Defenders are about to get a huge boost with Imperial Veterans.

>>46633528
>>46633979
Like 96% sure it doesn't alter anything.

>>46633930
>implying twitter was where it started...

You do know that slash fiction started with the original series of Star Trek, right?

>>46632031
>>46632298
>>46632531
You make me laugh, anon.

>>46633993
>Tie Defenders are about to get a huge boost with Imperial Veterans.
Looking at the online Squad Builder, the Defender already looks bitchin with Rexler Brath.

The only bigger ship I look to be interested in is the Gozanti honestly, and I need at least two more regular TIEs for that I feel. I mostly bought the TFA box for the updated rules and stuff, but unless there comes a large roster of TFA ships soon, I'll likely stick with regular Imperials.

How valid a tactic is it to bring a gorillion TIE Fighters to a game?

>>46634023

No but Twitter was what gave shipping morons a way to make people think their opinions were the majority's.

>>46634023
Twitter lets you easily find others who share your ideas, which reaffirms them, and lets you be louder about them. That's why dirty commie countries block it and stuff. I'm sure we can find a way to tie this back into the star wars HoloNet or something.

>>46633850

Chaztruck Blazzclump isn't just the youngest of the Blazzclumps, he's also the biggest. And ever since the Blazzclumps put down roots on Rhimjab 4 they've been supporters of the Empire. It was, after all, Imperial subsidiaries and grants which allowed the Blazzclump family to make their living farming Hukhuk beetles and the occasional Kakfu Triblump beast (the latter of which provides the Triblump leather so crucial to the manufacture of Triblump leather jackets).

Chaztruck joined the Imperial academy shortly after coming of age, just like his older brothers Chadbrick and Bretkharr. He joined with a gleam in his eye--patriotic through and through--and the notion that he would be serving a cause greater than himself.

Some of that gleam went away after the death of Bretkharr (Rebels destroyed the station he was on). More of that gleam went away when Chadbrick went MIA at Yavin.

A hard harvest year and shrinking Imperial subsidiaries have since put his parents off the family farm. Chaztruck does what he can to help them, financially, but a small stipend seems the most he can manage.

>>46634083
>How valid a tactic is it to bring a gorillion TIE Fighters to a game?

It can work, but it's extraordinarily difficult to fly in a tournament setting. Eight, ten, twelve hours of flying seven ships while your opponents are mostly flying two or three, and the decision fatigue really starts to add up. You make the clock your enemy. And when the clock is your enemy, it's your opponent's friend.

>>46634083
>a gorillion TIE Fighters
Pretty valid. Howlrunner and a fuckload of Swarm Tactics Black Squadron pilots are still annoying as hell.

>>46633850
>Blunt Thundurr
>Son of a powerful aide to a core world governor
>Black sheep of the family, mostly drinks and fights and has a bit of a mean streak but Daddy always cleans up the mess
>Dad is pulling strings to him into the academy even though he's never given a shit
>Rebels are plotting to steal important documents, try to kidnap the aide
>Mission goes sideways, ends up a big firefight
>Blunt's Mom and Sister, the only people who think he's worth shit get caught in the crossfire
>Blunt returns home a bit buzzed to find the house in ruins
>Rebels are still inside trying to get Dad to talk
>He gets the drop on them, grabs a bust of the emperor and bashes in the skull of the first reb.
>Grabs the reb's gun and kills the other one.
>His life is ruined. The rebels stole everything from him
>But killing them never made him feel so alive
>As far as he can tell, being an Imperial Officer is basically free rein to kill as many rebels as possible, and he plans to do just that

Not sure if this makes "blunt" a nickname or just a really bad pun. Either way that's Star Wars names for you

>>46634173

Well, it's at least responsible for me hating myself for being an Arrow fan.

>>46633850

Blunt Thundurr loved living on the Edge-- that was until suspected Rebel activity in the sector saw the shutdown of the space station Edge. He has since channeled his wit and passion into a military career. He sees a lot of opportunity for illicit business among the rank-and-file; far be it for Blunt Thundurr to pass up an easy cred.

As the saying goes "If you can't blunt Blunt Thundurr, you're going to get the thunder of Thundurr." Blunt knows this saying is going to take off, as he's already sold seven t-shirts with the saying on it. It's called 'growing the brand' and Blunt Thundurr is a natural.

That's another of his t-shirts. "The natural Thundurr of Blunt is better than the naturally blunt thunder of lightening". He's sold three of those.

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>>46634196
You mean like this?

>>46634186
That sounds fair though. I dealt with 3v3 tonight and that took quite some time - granted, we were both new to it and there were a lot of rules questioning, but still.

>>46634179
>Chadbrick

Fuck this whole thing is gold

>>46634280
>>46634179

You're WELCOME.

>>46634083
Tie swarms (6 or more Ties) work well, actually. 8 is as high as it goes without breaking into an Epic game, and usually Howlrunner is in there somewhere. Although Youngster from the Gozanti is growing in popularity.

The biggest problem Tie Swarms run into, is getting two attack dice through on something with 3 Agility, a focus, and evade (i.e. Soontir Fel).

The Defender's main problem is the price tag. At 30pta base for PS 1, it's a super-fighter. Rexlar and Vessery are both great pilots, but prepare to dump about 40 points into them (or more). And the ship's key weakness is it's inflexible dial. Basically it's greens are all forward, it has a marvelous white K-turn, and it's 1 and 2 turns are red... So it tends to fly back and forth. The Tie Mk2 Ion Engine from the Punisher helps it by making all the banks green as well, but it still doesn't like turning. Imperial Veterans is going to have two titles for the Defender: the Tie/D, which lets you equip a 3pt or less cannon and shoot it along with your primary weapon; and the X-7 title which reduces it's cost by 2, removes the cannon and missile slot, and gives you a free evade anytime you take a 3, 4, or 5 speed maneuver.

>>46634173
If anyone thinks that shipper opinions are the majority, then that's their own dumb-ass fault. That's like going to /b/ and thinking it's an accurate assessment of the entire internet.

>>46634175
>dirty commie countries
We 1953 now!

>>46634295
Almost. The list is more like:

>Howlrunner + Swarm Tactics
>Black Squadrons + Swarm Tactics x 4
>Black Squadron

That leaves you with a total of 98 points. One Black Squadron TIE is naked because he's at the end of the PS 8 chain, and thus, he has no need for a Swarm Tactics card. Spending those remaining 2 points is up to personal taste. I usually replace him with one of the 16-point named TIE/LNs.

>>46634179
>>46634234
>>46634280

I am fucking rolling. And while I love them all, the name Blunt Thundurr is really growing on me. Christ guys, this is why this is the best of all the star wars generals.

>>46634196
I like putting youngster and howlrunner with my swarms.

>>46634499
>That's like going to /b/ [or /pol/] and thinking it's an accurate assessment of the entire [4chan].
>which nobody would ever do

>>46634186
Learn to formation fly, and it becomes a hell of a lot easier.

It also helps that Ties are expendable, and losing three isn't a problem.

>>46634522
>Howlrunner + Swarm Tactics

Why would Howlrunner need Swarm Tactics? The benefit is the unnamed TIEs getting his high Pilot Skill? Or is it meant for the shooting phase?

>>46634526
>best of the Star Wars generals
>Not best general period

Damn I love /swg/

>>46634588
Howlrunner with Swarm Tactics allows you to make another ship at R1 shoot at Howl's PS 8. If everything has Swarm Tactics and is R1 of each other in some fashion, then everything gets to shoot at PS 8.

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>>46634588
>Howlrunner
>his

>>46634672
>implying I own the card yet

>>46634645
Oh, I misread the text, nevermind. Now I understand.

>>46634526
Beef Plankchest
Stud Beefpile
Dash Riprock
Biggs McLargehuge

Those are some of my fallbacks...

>>46634672
I wish the named pilot cards in X-Wing actually had artwork of the character as well rather than the ship.

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>>46634705
>Biggs McLargehuge

>>46634705
>Biggs McLargehuge
Fucking christ, I have no face for this

>>46634522
I would do this

>“Howlrunner” (18), Swarm Tactics (2)

>“Youngster” (15), Expose (4)

>Black Squadron Pilot (14), Swarm Tactics (2) X3

>Obsidian Squadron Pilot (13)

Totals out at 100 points. Could trade out Obsidian for Academy if you want to make an init bid at 99.

>>46634554

>Learn to formation fly, and it becomes a hell of a lot easier.

This is true up to a point. You will usually have to break formation sooner or later, and usually sooner since the main strength of Academy TIEs is blocking.

>It also helps that Ties are expendable, and losing three isn't a problem.

This is less true. TIEs are not really all that expendable. The way X-wing plays out, you don't actually get much utility from squadron granularity. For a wide variety of reasons, a ship worth 36 points is usually much better than three TIEs worth 12 points each even though you lose all of it's utility if/when it is destroyed.

>>46632174
Magnetic fields.

>>46632584
Please, Doctor Who learned long ago that their setting could annihilate most settings with one box.

>>46634987
>implying that's not just part of the plan

>>46633381
I will get a scan from the book when I get home then. Just gotta find where I put it

>>46634890

The expandability comes in greater with builds like:
>>46634798

Blockers often have a mediocre 2-dice damage output, and a low initiative for moving first. Prototype As with chaardan, Academy Ties, Bannana Pirate Z-95, etc. Barrel Roll is usually the more valuable repositioning action for these ships, but the fact remains they exist primarily to get in the way and fill 12-15pts. Their damage output is low so that they aren't expected to knock out an Ace if they chance a shot, unless that Ace is blocked. But at 12 or 15pts, their loss is hardly a setback for most lists.

Now cue Youngster with Expose, and suddenly for 4pts you can make an entire Tie Swarm 3-dice base attack. It eats your action, but there are other ways to get a Focus (bomber with shuttle title and Fleet Officer). Plus there are some Ties that simply don't care (Wampa), or naturally buff the damage output of surrounding Ties (Howl). In these cases the academies are very much expendable, blockers, and are a real threat due to sheer numbers of dice they can roll.

>>46632031

This >>46632133

And the novelization was setting up for PoeXRey.

>>46632215
>>46632302

Oscar Isaac actually tried to portray that Poe was gay and John Boyega went along with it.

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>>46635321
>PoeXRey
>Not PoeXWing

>>46635321
Fuck that.

I want PoeXChewie!

>>46635424
But Maz likes that Wookie.

>>46635445
Fine...

PoeXChewieXMaz.

Max is bi, right? She looks bi.

>>46635321
>PoeXRey
Resounding meh. With FinnXRey you could at leadt get some pretty good comedy milage out of the fact that neither of them has a single clue how to into relationships, but poexrey is just boring

>>46635445
Obviously with Han out of the picture we need LukeXLeia to spawn the ultimate force baby.

>>46635495
In a 1,000 years, I highly doubt she hasn't experimented at least once.

But that's a MMF relationship.

>>46635508
Agreed.

Ultimately though, I don't care who the others shack up with so long as Kylo doesn't get any and dies by the end of the trilogy.

>>46635525
Using Rey as the carrier of the egg and seed?

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>>46632031
Love is in the air! <3

Can anyone give a brief explanation how the Energy thing works in X Wing?

>>46635550
>Ultimately though, I don't care who the others shack up with so long as Kylo doesn't get any and dies by the end of the trilogy.
Friggin right. Kylo/Rey pisses me the hell off

>>46635550
>MMF
That's the joke...

>>46635680
>>46635550
You are a pair of faggots. Accept the one true ship

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>>46632410
>>46633056
>>46633245

>>46635648
Big ships don't get Focus or Evade tokens (ever), and so they run off Energy instead. They start with a set amount, and then regenerate some each turn. If they do a maneuver that's too fast, they burn energy. A lot of their upgrades also burn energy to use. And of course there are cases like the Raider, which burns energy to KEEP FIRING, ASSHOLES!

>>46635773
>the Raider, which burns energy to KEEP FIRING, ASSHOLES!

Sounds great, that.

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How would I make a Force Sensitive Assassin character in FFG? I'm thinking Makashi Duelist + Hunter. Anything from EotE or AoR that could be added?

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>>46635739

>>46635760
>the one true ship
What the hell does any of this have to do with Farlander/B-Wing?

>>46635810
>lightsaber wristblade

Oh for the love of...

>>46635810
Lightsaber assassins creed is too much Christ-sith maymay to me.

Next you're going to add reapers.

>reapers wouldn't last long in Star Wars anyway! their shields can't repel firepowah of THAT magnitude!

>>46635868
Considering the way hidden blades are used in the games, it's honestly not that far-fetched. Useless as a Stealth weapon though.

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>>46635760
>one true ship
As the fuck if

>>46635908
>Christ-sith maymay to me.

?

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>>46635856
The one true ship is obviously the love between the A-wing and the Imperial Star Destroyer, forbidden love and all that.

>>46635924
I ship XWW and shipfag

Luke Skywalker x Darth Traya is the OTP and there is nothing you can do to disprove otherwise.

>>46635949
I'll get started on that one after I write Chapter 2 of TailheadsXQuestanon.

>>46635957
APATHY IS DEATH

>>46635957
I threw-up a little.

>>46635975
With special cameo by ND

>>46635999
Chapter 2 focuses on Tailheads and Questy waking up on Nar Shadaa, discovering their new identities and memories and then signing on with a smuggler.

>>46636076
If not for this whole thing being unspeakably horrifying that sounds surpisingly fun. But seriously stop

>>46636109
The smuggler is a Gran. They have a threesome to seal the deal. Yes, he has three dicks.

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>>46636162

>>46635975
I ain't scared. I've done had people write porno fanfic about me before

>>46636226
Well damn now you have to explain

Make sure to include questanon's running schedule slips. I swear, that guy would be late to his own funeral.

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>>46636422
>Quest has accepted his fate worse than death

>>46636250
High school. Dated a Yaoi fangirl of the first rank for a time. Hit a sticking point when she eventually decided that she was a gonna git me to fuck another guy while she watched. Well, I said no way ma'am, and that was that. Month later, a mutual friend tells me that she was over at Mrs. Yaoi's house when she finds a certain word document open. Turns out, Mrs. Yaoi had gone and used my name and physical description for a character in a yet-to-be-uploaded slashfic of hers. Needless to say, we had words and she agreed to delete the whole damn thing and never publish it else certain details of her hobbies would be made known to certain conservative relatives of hers.
So that's what it was. Any more questions?

>>46636660
That's sounds pretty shitty. Glad it never saw the light of day

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>>46636547
It's not like I can stop anon. And it's kind of funny until it suddenly veers into creepy.

>>46636709
Could have been worse.

I remember reading the Jedi Apprentice series as a kid and thinking it was pretty cool. Anybody here read Jedi Quest?

>>46636806
I read both of those. They hold up surprisingly well today, although some things are obviously YA. There was a really cool book that crossed over the two books, with Obi-Wan and Anakin returning to a planet to complete a mission Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon had been on many years before.

>>46637019
Huh, neat. Which mission was that?

They were written by the same person right? How did the series portray Anakin?

When does the Republic Commando Series go downhill? I'm currently on Hard Contact.

>>46636660
Sounds like she was kinda fucked in the head. From the slash-fiction writers I know, real people's names are generally a no-go in regards to writing a story.

>>46637052
Yeah, Jude Watson did both series. I seem to remember Anakin being pretty positively portrayed, sort of similarly to Jacen in the Young Jedi Knights books if you ever read those. The book I was thinking of was called Jedi Apprentice: The Followers, but apparently there was another on the same topic called Jedi Apprentice: Deceptions.

>>46637177
Well, 16 year old girl plus breakup angst plus slashfic tenancies plus homothirst was a ....regrettable combo. I'm sure she's fine now, but at the time it must have seemed like a good idea

>>46637203
Huh, neat. Thanks dude, I'll probably give it a read.

>>46637203
Question: How does it portray Palpatine's relationship with Anakin?

>>46637089
Somewhere halfway through True Colors. But it's readable up to about halfway into Order 66 when everything goes to hell in a handbasket

>>46637089
I might be crucified, but I liked all of them. I liked the edgy viewpoint that the Jedi were aloof and heartless, and though the Mando wankery was present I never found it so overwhelming I couldn't stand it. I liked the Etain/Dar thing, I thought it was mostly well done.

I'm not sure why people hate it so much, I thought the glimpse into Mando culture was stronger than what's depicted in other mediums for sure.

>>46637520
Is that where the Mandowanking comes in?

>>46637487
I don't remember, sorry :/

>>46637540
The Mandowanking is pretty clearly happening the most in True Colors when we actually have characters on Mandalore.

I'd personally say it's worth it to read all the way up to what's been written. The clone perspective is never really poorly done compared to the Mandowanking, and Imperial Commandos is actually pretty good.

>>46637539
It's kinda like how Vikings are portrayed as noble warriors despite the fact that they were murdering rapists.

The original Mandalorians were terrible, awful people. The Modern Mandalorians are Death Watch (who take after the original Mandalorians) the Supercommandoes (who are honorable mercenaries), the New Mandalorians (who are pacifists) and the normal everyday civilians.

>>46637609
Yeah, I agree.
It's not as bad as everyone makes it out to be.

>>46631619

>>batter_brothers.gif

>>46637540
It builds up from Triple Zero and the short stories (Targets in Triple Zero and Odds in True Colors off the top of my head) but it's on a OK level up to the later part of True Colors where stuff gets a bit too much. Mind you it's just small details but enough to put a lot of readers off. In Order 66 however the mandowank is in full swing.

Now this is the place where i must tell you i'm a fan of the Republic Commando series (but not Traviss' later works. Wouldn't touch those with a 10-foot lightsaber pike) and i've read through them all several times. I do think, in my oppinion, that the mandowank is a bit much in the later books (True Colors, Order 66 & Imperial Commando) but not to the extreme degree that /swg/ makes it out to be.

I advise you to read through them all with a open mind and form your own opinion.

>>46637631
Yeah, that makes sense.
Because the books are from the perspective of Mando's, I guess they look on their own culture and history with bias. Much like most countries today.

I always appreciated the whole Jaster Mereel arc, if you've read the True Colors comic.
I felt like her books tied well into that.

>>46637680
>>46637609

Thanks, I intended to finish the series anyways but I'll keep this in mind.

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Asked about Weik in an earlier thread. Does anyone happen to have scans of its lore pages? The Wook still has nothing on it, but I'd love to use it in a campaign or future writefaggotry (in the event that my workload lets up, anyway).

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>>46637631
The original Mandalorians and the neo-Crusaders that would follow in the Old Republic era were what happens when a warrior culture never really calms down with modernization.

The big deal modern Mandos are actually the Protectors (supercommandos) who own pretty much the entire planet--considering the Mandalore has been Protector for a few generations straight--with the Death Watch acting as neo-neo-crusader terrorists.

Until we get to Clone Wars nuCanon. Then we have the New Mandalorians on the poles of the planet.

The regular people of Mandalore as of the EU Clone Wars (not the CGI show) are all basically Protectors in regards to their beliefs and cultural behavior. The warrior culture done right through moderation and mercenary work.

There's nothing inherently wrong with the Mandalorians. Trying to find a way to add an extreme parallel to the Death Watch in the New Mandos on the poles is actually a good move. I feel that having an extreme neo-neo-Crusader group isn't bad, nor is an extreme pacifist faction. The Protectors outnumbered the former in the EU, and the latter never existed until nuCanon.

It only went bad in my opinion when the Vizla assault on the Dutchess' city implied that it was actually the proper Mandalorian throne. Not, you know, the title of Mandalore, which it should have been.

>>46637777
I didn't realize the New Mandalorians were on the Poles. I thought they were in the devastated wasteland regions that served as a natural barrier to the rest of the world.

Say, what's Fantasy Flight's policy for replacing broken ships? I had no issues with replacing broken or missing stands, but what about ships? A few of mine have broken due to poor storage solution, and I'm looking to ask for replacements.

>>46637814
I interpreted all the snow and whatnot as the poles. If it turns out it was some sort of irradiated wasteland portion of Mandalore, that's kind of...bleh.

It makes it more difficult to justify trying to blend them in with the rest of Mandalore as of the EU--having them on the poles made that easy enough--and I liked the idea of having a minority Mandalorian government being the only one that the Republic would interact with because they were the most peaceful; introducing even more political grey area in regards to how the Republic is treating Mandalorians as a whole.

I would like to be able to combine the Duchy into the rest of Mandalore as just another standalone faction. I think if I ever run games, I will. They'll just have little impact on Mandalore and its people outside of their cities as a whole, while also having the awkward situation of the Republic liking them because, hey, pacifists and political grey area.

>>46637901

I'd mix it up a bit. A good portion of the planet is devastated and the safe areas are split between the Protectors, the New Mandalorians and the neutrals. The Protectors and New Mandalorians have about an even amount of influence but the neutrals are the plurality. The Republic only deals with the New Mandalorians because they're a peaceful government.

How do i become as bounty hunter as possible with missile launchers and flamethrowers and shit?

>>46638033
By...doing it? What are you asking?

>>46638053
How do i go about it? Do i just buy items or is it a part of the bounty hunter class. Im pretty new to the system so forgive me if i sound retarded.

>>46637991
I hope we get more mandos in the next season of Rebels. I'm interested in what the new status quo is on Mandalore. Also want to learn more about Sabine's backstory because she's totally Obi-Wan's bastard guys

>>46638090
Which system?

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Anyone good with making vehicle stats for EotE/AoR/F&D?

I'm not saying I want a Titan... but I want a Titan. And I have no idea how to reasonably start designing one's stats and mechanics.

>>46638103
FFG

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>Gonna have my players attend a Imperial Ball to investigate a bombing.
>Success rolls get to dance with Vader, Thrawn, sexy female Imperials, etc.
>Fail rolls get to dance with ex-senator Jar Jar.

Is this a good idea /tg/?

>>46638117
Experimental AT-ST?

>>46638142
Captain Gilad 'Gentleman Gil' Pellaeon as an option or we riot

>>46638142
I can't imagine Vader dancing in a serious in-universe work. I could see Thrawn and Tarkin doing it for sure. Pellaeon might be too junior in rank to attend. Who else can people think of? Ysanne Isard?

>>46638185
>I can't imagine Vader dancing in a serious in-universe work.
What about doing the Robot?

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>>46638142
>Rolling
>Not just booting up Star Wars Kinect and basing the scenario's results on the players' scores

>>46638142
>sexy female Imperials
Make that Daala and she forces herself to being the lead in the dance

>>46638127
Sorry, not sure how to do that. My group plays d6.

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>>46638142
You mean roll to be Vader's Backup dancers.

>>46638185
I'm going to use the excuse that he's there because there's been a threat made on the Emperor's life, who is watching evilly from a balcony above in true Kingly fashion.
>>46638181
>>46638185
>>46638217
I'll add them to the roster, roll a d6 or something to divvy it up between the players.

>>46638185
Perhaps I reserve Vader for a Triumph?

>>46638318
Flip through other GCW-era books and rip named Moffs and whatnot from them. It would certainly be interesting.

>>46638318
I'm going to point out that Vader killed a man for calling him "Darth" and I don't mean Obi-Wan.

Asking Vader to dance is just begging to be Choked.

>>46638127
In terms of FFG mechanics there's a Bounty Hunter career with assassin, survialist and gadgeteer as sub classes.
In terms of in-canon fluff either you work to join a guild and make money for your batman gadgets that way or you work freelance, dont die and make your money like that.

>>46638353
Well, it's the type of dance where you don't have a choice in who your partner is.

Like this:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mUxjUZuRLA

Only with space shit and lots more people.

>>46638412
You know Palps would participate just to fuck with people.

And he'd make Vader do it, just to fuck with Vader.

>>46638353
Expanded lore representation on Vader is really inconclusive, unfortunately. In some stories he's portrayed as an absolutely damaged psychopath, in others he's a relatively personable individual with an appreciation of the common folk and an extremely strong internal pain; in the latter he goes into a kind of kill-mode when its time for shit to go down, whereas in the former he seems to always be in it.

>>46638412
I really doubt that Vader would even be on the dance floor. It just doesn't make sense in any serious capacity.

If you're doing it for the lulz, then go ahead but it wouldn't work in any serious capacity.

>>46638457
Agree with this guy. Throw some more moffs and admirals out there, not like we have a shortage.

>>46638457
The possibility of dancing with Jar-Jar probably rules out the possibility of this encounter being super serious.

>>46638353
Why would he kill someone for calling him Darth. It's a hell of a lot more exclusive than "lord"

>>46638525
Because he's evil anon.

>>46638443
Go with the OT. He's on a mission from god and he will kill people who get in the way of that or people who fuck up.

You never see him force choke a stormtrooper for not finding the plans on the Tantive IV, nor does anyone seem to bitch about him offing Ozzel.

It's entirely possible that he can be a ball of evil and still act as a competent leader 99% of the time.

>>46638561
>be Evil guy
>Guy calls you by official title that denotes how evil you are
>Kill him

God Vader is such a douche

>>46638608
I think he treated Darth as his first name.

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>>46638443

The inconsistency is because Vader is actually a very difficult character to write. Most of his personality doesn't come just from his dialogue. He's a combination of character design, voice acting, stunt acting, cinemotagraphy, and mythological throwback being made for the right movie at the right time.

Most of his personality is conveyed by the way he speaks and the way he moves. He has a very distinct, deliberate gate, and of course James Earl Jones's iconic voice added a massive amount to the character. Neither of these things translate well to the printed medium so writers have a hard time keeping true to his personality.

There's also the fact who Darth Vader actually is is not easy to peg down. There is no "slice of life" for the guy. He exists completely in the moment and is motivated entirely by single goals. And all of those goals are shown to be extremely personal. He didn't kill Ozzel because he's a ball of rage, he killed him because Ozzel fucked up his plans of capturing Luke.

When you take Vader out of anything involving Obi-Wan or Luke, he basically just exists in a vacuum. This is why so many portrayals of him in the EU feel inconsistent or out-of-character. Because locking down just what IS "in-character" for him is really hard to do.

>>46638590
This is probably best. I always interpreted Vader (at least, before the prequels turned him into space Jesus) as just a really badass Gestapo officer who goes in with the troops and does well with them, but doesn't do well with the civilian populace or his higher officers.

Stormtrooper can't find the plans? He's just doing his job, tough bit, let's improvise and fix the situation. Admiral fucks up our jump out of hyperspace and gives the Rebels an advance warning that we're coming to crush them? Kill him, he fucked with my plans in a major way and he should know better.

>>46638443
I run Vader as a guy who is only ever happy when he has an excuse to kill someone.

His only reason to continue existing is to serve his master's vision, because if his master's vision is not worth serving, then his life has no purpose. Every other Anakin Skywalker that could have been died on Mustafar, at Anakin Skywalker's hand. Darth Vader knows that the Empire is right, that Palpatine's ascendancy is the only path forward for the galaxy, because if it is not there is no reason for Darth Vader to continue living.

He is the Emperor's short-tempered, invincible errand boy, and there is nothing he relishes more than the moments when he gets to unleash the bottomless wellspring of hatred in his heart and crush some stupid asshole who is opposing him.

Palpatine's usually good about sending him somewhere where he can do that.

>>46638590
Lots of sources show Vader having immense comradery with stormies but a huge hate boner for generals, leaders, and political figures who have no idea what theyre talking about and mostly just got their rank from social and political positioning

>>46638658
To expand on what I mean here, I always figured that he had all this inner pain and rage, and he does well enough with *his boys*, but take him outside of that situation or out of a situation where he's in control, and his internal struggle and the maelstrom of torment that is him has an easier chance of coming out; especially when the stupidity of those that he feels should know better gets in the way of his goals.

>>46638660
As a result of that, the second Luke enters the picture his motivation changes entirely to "we will rule the galaxy as father and son, and anyone who tries to fuck that up is going to die."

>>46638642

It's very obvious "Darth Vader" was just supposed to be the guy's name (later his assumed name when they decided Vader and Anakin should be the same person).

That's why everyone calls him "Lord Vader". I really wish George hadn't turned "Darth" into a title because every single Sith Lord who isn't Vader has the cringiest fucking name.

>>46638652
Not this anon but in short writing vader is like trying to characterize a hurricane.

You can try, but it's hard to capture the sheer spectacle and terrifying visage with words, let alone describe its "personality" beyond that moment

Hey all, just got myself a Hound's Tooth (YV-666) for X wing yesterday! I'm really excited to finally have a large scum ship for my collection. Can any fans of the ship give me some tips on how to use it? Load up Bossk with Mangler/Calculation, or keep it cheap with the Slaver and a few crew? I'm about to try out the following against my buddy:

Latts Razzi (41) (Base cost - 33)
- Bossk Crew (2)
- Gunner (5)
- 4-LOM (1)

Zuckuss (31) (Base Cost 28)
- Fire Control System (2)
- Mist Hunter (0)
- Tractor Beam (1)

2x Binyare Pirate w/ Feedback Array (2x14 = 28)

>>46638652
That is one thing I liked about Shadows of the Empire. Vader was more believable in it. Xizor was out to kill Luke, and Vader finally says "Your plans run counter to mine, and thus your usefulnes has ended."

>>46638185
This. In the Vader Annual, Vader is asked to dance as a formality between a Planet's Queen and he flat out turns her down telling her he will never do something so foolish

>>46638702
My guess? He was bro tier with the clones and has a hate boner for civvie officers ever since.

He's THAT guy who served in Vietnam leading a combat unit, moved up after the war, but hates all the newer no-experience officers who went through ROTC rather than getting experience beyond the wire.

>>46638702
Vader gets along well with grunts. They are expendable tools. He is a slightly less expendable tool.

Vader gets along absolutely horribly with any kind of bigger picture person. His whole life, the bigger picture has been something that Padme, Obi-Wan, or Palpatine handled for him. He does not get the bigger picture, never has, and never will, and is eternally frustrated by the existence of people who have an agenda other than his own.

This is part of why if Vader turned Luke, the Empire would probably collapse a shit-ton faster into a million feuding warlords. You do not let Ani anywhere near any political negotiations. He makes his son in Jabba's Palace look like a goddamn savant.

>>46638720
That's because Luke is the last bit of Padme in the galaxy (that he knows of).

In full pottery, he says to padme that they can rule in episode 3, his fear of losing padme turns him evil, then he tells Luke they can rule, then his fear of losing like (and thus the last but of padme) causes him to throw the emperor into the pit-o-doom

>>46638775

That seems pretty true to the character. If a Stormtrooper had a gun to Luke's head and was about to execute him, Vader would probably kill the poor sod in a heartbeat.

>>46638787
I cannot imagine someone even bothering to ask him that. Even as a formality.

>>46638767
The hound can be run either with Bossk and Mangler/Calculation, or kept cheap. If you plan on making it fat-ish, get a Punishing One and throw fucking Gonk on the thing. The Hound's Tooth simply can't take a hit like the Falcon or even Decimator can (with Ysaard Ygritte Ygrrrgloyf).

My two favorite ways of running it is Morello with the HLC, broadsiding shit, with a K4, Outlaw, and possibly Gonk. And with Latts, kept cheap, with a Weapons Engineer and little else (maybe a Gonk and Experimental Interface). The important thing to note is EI doesn't let you double-Gonk, but it does let you take an action and them regen a shield you've stacked up on it.

>>46638822
actually that would be a great Edge of the Empire campaign come to write it down.

"Emperor Palpatine is dead. Long Live Emperor Skywalker."

Most of the fleet at Yavin IV still fled. The Emperor's advisors on Coruscant attempted to claim power. The Emperor's Hand, Luke Skywalker, cut them down in the middle of an empire-wide broadcast, and proclaimed his father, Darth Vader, Emperor.

It is estimated that over the next two months, over a trillion sentients died.

The Rebel Alliance and the Skywalker Empire are the two most powerful dominions still standing now that the battle lines have mostly shaken out, but both are a pale shadow of their former strength. And between them stand the Warlord Territories, whose regional governors refuse to bend the knee to the new emperor.

honestly you can take that and run with it in a ton of fun directions. most of which involve a boss fight against Luke Skywalker.

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>>46638944
>a boss fight against Luke Skywalker
>Yo, buddy. You still alive?

>>46630991
Looking to get back into reading some Star Wars novels since newcanon is a thing. Any particularly good ones I should start with?

>>46639078
Nucanon novels?

Only Tarkin is considered "good." Everything else is awful.

>>46639114
A New Dawn is widely considered to be as entertaining or better than Tarkin.

>>46639137
I actually just heard of that one. Interesting.

>>46639114
Darn.

Well how about the Han Solo adventures or Lando's? I know its Legends but I've heard good thing.

Also while I'm at it is there any other Legends stuff that's required reading for Star Wars fans?

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>>46638944
>Dark Luke

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>>46639173
>Legends stuff that's required reading for Star Wars fans
Thrawn
X-Wing
Starfighters of Adumar
Hand of Thrawn
The Farlander Papers
The Stele Chronicles
Mercy Kill
The Han Solo and Lando Calrissian books
Scoundrels
The good bits of Tales of the Jedi
The KOTOR comic
WEG's splat books
Tag & Bink
If you want closure for the original Wraith Squadron story arc, Courtship of Princess Leia

And as always, /swg/ tradition requires me to recommend Jedi Prince.

>>46639256
Isn't Starfighters of Adumar and The Farlander Papers part of the X-Wing Series?

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>>46639285
Yeah. Guess I just wanted to emphasize Starfighters of Adumar because it's that fucking fun to read. It's important to note, however, that the Farlander Papers (and the flight sim) have only a minor story connection to the X-Wing novels and comics.

>>46639256
I would throw in Legacy (comic not Legacy of the Force) but that's pretty Skub around these parts. Knight Errant is pretty cool too and stars one of /swg/'s top waifus. But I'm more of a movies and vidya guy so other than Heir to the Empire, KOTOR comic and TOTJ I'm pretty lacking on this list

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>>46639399
Legacy had lots of good bits but I'd hesitate to make it required reading, since understanding some of the early stuff requires having to slog through the Vong era. It's also not strongly connected to the main time period, so it doesn't really have much effect on Legends' main story. The biggest deal breaker for me, though, is the starfighter designs.

>>46639399
Legacy is entertaining, at times. But as far as "recommended" goes it's not on the list.

>>46639472
I like some of the stuff from Legacy, but I never really cared to follow the plot (or characters).

>>46639472

Legacy is very much a product of its times (2007) and it features an edgelord protagonist who is essentially a combination of Luke and Anakin Skywalker turned into a burnout junkie. But oh, he's got a super speshul snowflake healing power that nobody else in the galaxy can use or understand.

So yeah, as >>46639399 said, it's pretty Skub. I'd also recommend Outbound Flight. It's set in the PT era but it features Thrawn in his first appearance in the legends timeline and shows how batshit the original Jorus C'boath really was.

>>46637539
>edgy viewpoint that the Jedi were aloof and heartless

Could someone elaborate on this? I've never read the books.

>>46639685
Outbound Flight is pretty interesting but I am very leery of anything that involves the Yuuzhan Vong as a plot point, even indirectly.

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>>46638117

Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

>>46638944

>Dark Side Luke.

Get the fuck out of here Veitch. We all hated this shit the first time.

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>>46639742
Hnnnng my dick!

>>46639776
Veitch gave Luke a competent trainer in Palpatine

giving him Darth "I Am Definitely Someone You Can Trust To Train An Apprentice, Look At My Track Record Of Unbroken Successes" Vader as the universe's worst helicopter parent safely brings him down to tolerable bossfight NPC levels

>>46639720

The YV are only indirectly referenced in 2 or 3 conversations, not even by name. I highly suggest reading it. Zahn wrote it, and it's free of the shitty writing that made the NJO series so unbearable.

>>46639915
It's technically a plot point because it's the entire reason that Thrawn agrees to work for Palpatine. It's still worth reading, it's just that one thing really bothers me.

>>46639742
Dark Trooper Phase 4?

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>>46639864
>helicopter parent

Well that explains some things

>>46639472
You don't really need to know anything about the Vong for Legacy except the general gist that they attacked the Galaxy and use biology instead of mechanical stuff.

>>46640020
Damn it.

>>46639685
What keeps Cade from being a Gary Stu is that pretty much everyone knows he's a shithead and call him out on it constantly. Plus the healing thing is sure dark side so everyone gets mad when he uses it

>>46639078
>>46639173

Lost Stars is good, if you like YA stuff.

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>Battlefront now has Ion Disruptor

Does this mean we will soon get AT-DP's, Imperial Troop Transports, and other goodies from Rebels?

jk EA a shit

>>46640135
You might just get those.
For $3.99 each.

>>46640020
Filoni is an absolute maniac and I look forward to the batshit insanity that is coming.

>>46639915
>>46639720
Long before the YV, the EU's stated reason for the military buildup Palpy wanted, or at least the reason Palpy sold it, was fear of invasion from extragalactic aliumz.

>>46640408
Tbf the empire at full strength of ROTJ + 20 years for the vong to arrive would have been a curb stomping of epic proportions.

"Hey! that's a nice world ship you have there? Do your people have a word for galaxy gun? No? Well im about 5 minutes you will need to come up with one".

>>46640408

Yeah, but Outbound Flight was written after the YV book series ended, so it was definitely written with the YV in mind.

>>46639955

I can definitely see your point. I avoided those books like the plague when a friend of mine told me they sucked, (though he also spoiled the twist of kotor for me, so he straddled the line of that kid territory) but I know a lot of people who slogged through all the books and hate the Vong even more than the prequels,. Personally, the legends timeline for me ends at 25 ABY. The heroes live happily, the empire under Pellaeon reforms into a more stable and doveish entity that can coexist with the New Republic, and the Sith remain defeated forever.

>>46639256
By Han Solo Books do you mean the Han Solo Trilogy or the Han Solo Adventures?

Or do you mean both?

>>46640767
Not that anon, but Both.

The Han Solo Adventures take place before/during the third book of the Han Solo Trilogy if that matters to you

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>>46633342

>>46638922
I will definitely be using Gonk when I get a JumpMaster. Didn't get to try the list tonight, as we had to run a 50 pt. quickie because by buddy was in a hurry. I'll post some more on the YV-666 when I get some experience with it.

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Who is your goto Lore Youtube channel /tg/?

>>46641574
>going to youtube to learn lore
>not spending the time to learn it yourself by look up the sources
Please anon.

>>46641574
The only Lore worth learning about on YouTube is for Dark Souls and Yandere Simulator.

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>>46641620
Onion bro..... TT-TT

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>>46641649
BLACK. IRON. TARKUS.

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I always liked the idea of writing a Battle Droid who went off programming... Or creating a battle droid character that was like pic related.

Any similar stories?

>>46641672
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbHtRggFsNA

TARKUS! TARKUUUUUUS!!!

There a good map Generator around?

>>46639256
How is the Hand of Thrawn?

>>46642021
Its Zahn + Thrawn/Pellaeon stuff, so yes, its recommended.

Is the Truce at Bakura worth reading? I'm honestly not too keen on the Ssi-ruuk.

>>46642021
Not as good as the original Thrawn Trilogy, but still a very solid send-off to the Bantam era.

>>46642021
quite good. I'd recommend it. read it last on your EU list; it's basically a nice neat sendoff for the classic EU

>>46642099
>>46642118
>>46642157

Alright, that sounds decent but, specifically, what's good about it? The description doesn't really inspire much confidence in its quality. Mainly the whole, "is Thrawn alive!?" part.

Also, isn't Young Jedi Knights the best place to end reading the EU?

>>46642206
it's well written, deals with an interesting plot that manages to pit both factions against themselves as much as each other, resolves more than a few long-hanging plot threads, uses a bunch of WEG stuff in a satisfying way. the thrawn thing is actually well done, once you read it you'll see why

>>46642206
Hand of Thrawn settles down most of the plot threads into a satisfying GOOD END for the galaxy. Luke x Mara becomes official, the Imperial Remnant cleans out the most of the remaining crazy warlords and becomes legit, those sorts of things.


And then New Jedi Order blew everything up again.

>>46642261
>>46642321

Noted. I guess I'll start that as soon as I'm done with X-Wing and Courtship.

Is there anything that goes between the Thrawn Trilogy and Hand of Thrawn? Ten years is a long time.

>>46642206
>Also, isn't Young Jedi Knights the best place to end reading the EU?
personally, I'd say to read them just before the HoT duology. it just kind of has a sort of finality to it that the YJK series doesn't really bring
>>46642344
Starfighters Of Adumar, for one. there's a lot of stuff in that gap, but it's generally kind of crap, which is why it's not recommended here. possibly pick up Darksaber, and only read the chapters related to the Imperial Reunification for some background.

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>>46642381
Yeah, I wasn't going to touch Darksaber.

Is pic related any good? I enjoyed all the other Tales books.

So I've been trying to get back into X-wing after taking a break last year but I've got a couple questions if someone wouldn't mind taking a crack at them:

1. Any recommended K-Wing loadouts/lists?
2. What might a good next purchase for Scum be if I've got Most Wanted, a HWK, and a Y?
2. What's the trick to defeating Double IG lists because holy fuck they seem to be everywhere now?

>>46642344
Weeeeeellllllllll

There's the Jedi Academy Trilogy, which is on the Kevin J Anderson side of a mixed bag (some good ideas, some REALLY bad ideas, and mixed execution).

The "Callista Trilogy" which chronicles Luke's bizarre ghost Jedi girlfriend who...well, its confusing and bad, but includes Darksaber which is more Kevin J Anderson but has the Hutts building a budget Death Star with hilarious results.

The Black Fleet Crisis is more of a military thriller style story with the asshole Yevetha. Overall forgettable, but it introduced K-Wings.

The Corellian Trilogy, which goes in depth into Han's home system but is also kind of forgettable.

I Jedi follows Corran Horn as he becomes a Jedi and criticizes all the dumb plot holes in the Jedi Academy Trilogy.

A mixed bag, overall.

>>46642421
I don't think I've read that one. there's probably at least one or two good stories in it, so why not give it a go?

>>46642508
I heard I, Jedi was pretty good. Is it worth reading?

>>46642532
I guess I will.

>>46642546
Id say it's worth reading, yeah.
if you read it, you can skip the JAT, too, which is a plus.
get ready for a big 'ol dose of Stackpole's Only Sideplot, though

>>46642472
Ion turret, advanced slam, proton bomb bombardier

>>46642577
Uh, what?

>>46642602
Stackpole's Only Sideplot: Do I Become A Trifling Man?

>>46642421
I remember it being all right. Its different from the previous Tales collections since it doesn't focus on side characters from the movies, but features a lot more WEG RPG elements.

>>46632448
There's no real issue with ship combat against freighters, since they're built to take some hits and have room for a variety of people to do multiple things. Ship combat really only hits the janky phase if you're trying to run starfighter combat similar to games or books (as opposed to the films, where fighters are mostly just in squadrons, in which combat is also fine), where a single fighter can kick ass.

There's some house rules in the folders in the op, I think there's like 4 or so different ones. Making combat Gunnery vs Piloting can potentially make it ridiculously difficult to hit anything, even a bulky freighter. So in theory, it could just really drag out combat. You'd likely need additional things to modify the dice pool.

>>46635810
Really depends on what you actually want to do. You planning solely to kill things up close? Plan on primarily using a lightsaber? You just want general killing skills so you could take them out close or at range? Want any skills besides killing like stealth?

>>46642472
1. K wings are amazing because you can do almost anything you want with them. You can just slap a TLT on a Warden and call it good, you could load one up with a Conner Net, Seismic Charges, Extra Munitions and Advanced SLAM and zoom all over the place, you could give Miranda a turret and C3P0 to turn her into a mini-Falcon, you could give Esege a Recon Specialist and Blaster turret and go crazy.

2. I'd get a Hound's Tooth or Punishing One, they can be good heavy hitters for your Ys Zs and HWK to back up. They also come with a lot of good upgrades.

3. No idea, I only have the one robot atm and he's not supremely impressive on his own. I think the key is to arc dodge or use TLTs to whittle them down, they are amazing jousters but can have trouble repositioning.

Lore question, but how the fuck does the force sight for Miralukas work? The wiki pages I could find on them and the power weren't super helpful, and bioware didn't feel it necessary to explain dick

>>46642602
mike stackpole is a good writer, but the man only has one subplot: The Hero Sticks His Dick In It.
since Corran is married, he had to revise it to The Hero Wonders If He Should Stick His Dick In It, but he makes up for the change by using it more

>>46642859
I can answer that but you'll have to be a bit more specific because there's a lot of stuff in how it works. The basic gist is that Miraluka aren't actually blind and they're all Force Sensitive to boot.

What more do you want to know?

>>46642915
I know that they aren't blind and use force sight to see. I'm just curious how it compares to normal sight, and how potent would my Mirlukan jedi knight's force sight would be at around the time we killed Revan in the mmo. Assuming it's the sort of ability that got better over time.

>>46642965

Basically, they can see everything within a certain radius around them, can see through most objects and walls and can process all this information simultaneously. Outside of that radius, they apparently can see like normal people, considering they can pilot starfighters. It's mentioned that they can't see color, but can still read and see computer screens so you can probably ignore that.

>>46642421
i remember it being kinda hit-or-miss, but i haven't read it in like 12 years

>>46643007
That makes sense. Though the see through walls thing is kinda dumb unless it were something they had to train for or concentrate on.

>>46643028
Everyone is Daredevil.

>>46643039
On one hand, that's kinda stupid. On the other, there's probably some interesting shit you could come up with senses that are enhanced due to not having natural sight.

>>46643028
They do have to concentrate to see through thicker materials. Clothes don't count though.

>>46642472
IGs hate stress because, like the Defender with Ion Mk2, their only greens are straights or banking maneuvers.

Beyond stress, they are at the most PS 8 if they run Vet Instincts, but then they will likely have Fire Control System for a shred of action economy (pairs with B). If they don't use Vet Instincts, them they're at PS 6 and a lot jankier with either PtL (not my favorite loadout on them), Predator, or the newfangled Mindnet which has the potential to be brutal on them.

They ALWAYS have Heavy Laser Cannons, and are hyper reliant on their arc. The biggest challenge is recognizing what each does at a glance, and knowing which to take out first. A gives them survivability, B is the built-in Gunner and usually your first target, C is the free Evade when Boosting (works GREAT with Juke), and D is the added maneuverability in the form of a hard-turn S-Loop. There is no "weak pair", just different styles. But B is common due to the cannon synergy. If he's on the table, and they only have HLC, R1 is a bit safer than 2 or 3. And don't spend an Evade or Focus to cancel a hit id you're only taking 1 damage (unless you have tokens to spare).

Their greatest banes are bombs, high PS aces, Soontir Fel, Biggs with the astro that limits the damage he can take, Tie Phantoms, Sensor Jammer Starvipers (due to relying on FCS often times), and being blocked by any kind of cheap ship (Ties, As, Z-95s). Their choice prey is every big ship, expensive ships that don't dodge particularly well, and Scyks.

Is Questy here? I need his shit taste.

>>46644036
if he isn't, I just bought a half-gallon of cheap whisky and I'm willing to take a crack at it

>>46644036
Excuse you, I have EXCELLENT taste. But I should be hitting the sack.

>>46642599
giving this a shot next game

>>46642782
Probably going Hound's Tooth then since I'm not a huge fan of the toilet seat (even if it seems a little strong right now)

>>46643437
This is exactly what I was asking for anon, thanks a ton!

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