>After some high profile princesses got rescued by untrained

>>46614871
Call a crusade against the Elves, give them something else to do. The knightly orders will be busy fighting for one side or another, and years more during the rebuilding. Provided the crusade goes incredibly well, just send them on another and another, to the Nine Hells if necessary.

>>46614911
>the knights conquer Nine Hells
What now?

>>46614871
replace princesses with castles and land and you have the first couple arcs in beserk

>>46614941
To the rest of the realms!

Why would knightly orders form a union?
They're nobility. They can just push the adventurers around. They are on a first name basis with all relevant kings and some of them are already certain to marry one or two of the saved princesses.

A union is for nobodies with no pull.

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Imagine how much suffering could've been avoided if the Band of the Hawk just hired a good competition lawyer.

>>46614982
>knights conquer everything else
>they are recognized for their achievements
>meanwhile, the adventurer guild is all but forgotten and unneeded by everyone
What now?

>>46614941
http://goblinpunch.blogspot.com/2015/07/paladins-in-hell.html I will never not post relevant goblin punch

>>46615056
>They are on a first name basis with all relevant kings
So are all adventurer's worth mentioning. That's why they're a threat to the knightly orders.

>>46615085
>So are all adventurer's worth mentioning.
OP specified that these are beginners.

>>46615068
Launch a crusade against the knight houses, using the knights as our crusaders.

>>46615113
>knights proceed to conquer themselves with minimal casualties
>knight houses are now united under the single banner
What's next?

>>46615108
>Beginners who rescued several high profile princesses.

Each adventurer would at least been knighted or granted land and given a title, depending on which princesses got rescued. Also...

>King declares that said unionized knights are wasting his time purely because "someone did their job for them while they were pissing about."

>>46615250
Nothing. We're done. The knights have won, they've finished the grand metaphysical game.

>>46614871
>After untrained adventurers failed to rescue of a high-profile princess, instead brutalizing the princess and consorting with her dragon captor

FTFY

>>46614871
>anti-competitive practices
You're gonna have to be a bit more specific with that.

>>46615440
It was a she-dragon the whole time?

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>>46615510
OP here. I guess it's something like... the knights are complaining about predatory pricing? The knights are professionals who trained from childhood, the adventurers murderhobo's. They're the cheaper but more dangerous option that only exists to ensure the knights can no longer compete with them. Or something, IDK.

>>46615250
rename it to the adventurers guild. They were all adventurers at heart, after all.

>>46615573
>the knights' guild is renamed to the adventurers' guild
>the previous adventurers' guild is disbanded and all funding goes to the former knights' guild instead
>the former knights' guild instates hardcore requirements to enter their adventurers' guild, to ensure no one from the disbanded guild can enter
What now?

>>46615525
>It was a she-dragon the whole time?

This has not been confirmed. The knights who responded to the incident are unwilling to provide details of what they witnessed in the dragon's lair. The princess is currently in a state of recovery, and has also refused to comment on the events therein, describing them only as "too horrible" to speak aloud. The status of the adventurers and dragon is unknown, but they are presumed dead.

The adventurer's guild spokesman says that an internal investigation of the adventurer's conduct is ongoing.

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>>46615568
Tell them to git gud, if they want to charge more, they need to either have the quality to match their price, or need to determine a way to either lower the price of production or differentiate their product in order to alter the base and/or elasticity of their demand

The Free Market bows to no man, and attempting to alter or control it often causes more harm than good.

>>46615568
>IDK.

Adventuring freelancers are doing sub-par questing work. Their prices are attractive, but their unreliability, combined with the trails of needless destruction, suffering, theft, and fraud associated with them far outweigh any benefit in cost a client might obtain. Indeed, they frequently cause more harm to society than their services could ever hope to fix.

The adventuring guild lends an aura of legitimacy to poor-quality questing services, which often amount to amateur banditry and looting rather than heroism. Though demand still remains high, an increasing number of clients are hearing about these disastrous hack-jobs and becoming distrustful of all questing heroes. Stronger regulation is needed to save the questing and monster-extermination industry from these corrupt and incompetent agents.

>>46616045
They immediately start taking illegal and political actions to sabotage the opposition and hamstring them through leveraging their status as knighthood.
They eventually form a monopoly, adventuring becomes punishable by death, and now those needing rescues have to go through generations of debt to the organization to simply get back their princess.
Due to the knight's marketing, it quickly becomes the societal norm to shame those who won't pay this cost to save their princesses, and thus most major and minor families become vastly indebted, as well as large swathes of uneducated peasantry, further cementing control.

In the end, wanton encouragement of the Free Market above all else has made an unbreakable oligarchy of knights who are solely motivated by self-interest, while a large amount of the populace suffers without the ability to appeal to the once cheap and personally driven mercenaries, instead forced to use the one low-quality, high-cost option or face persecution socially and legally.

>>46614871

>formed a union
>accuses the adventurer's guild of anti-competitive practices

I tell my GM that he's shit at fantasy and should play shadowrun instead of d&d if he wants this modern business bullshit.

>>46617092
You say that as if people should use game systems suitable for their ideas, rather than forcing literally every game concept into dnd because they can't be bothered to look at a different one.

>>46614871
>your princess rescued by adventurers, including a bard
>your princess rescued by knights, virginity intact
You think nobles are stupid, Anon?

>>46617193
What kind of madman would dream of playing literally anything besides 3.pf for every possible game concept under the sun.

>>46617329
I use AD&D 1e.

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>>46617270
>You think nobles are stupid, Anon?
You think bards are stupid?
She's still a virgin if you stick it in the pooper

>>46617329
>What kind of madman would dream of playing literally anything besides 3.pf for every possible game concept under the sun.
I hear tell of strange mystics who claim to have seen beautiful and exotic systems.


But they are heretics. There is only 3.PF. There are no other systems. All systems are 3.PF. Disregard the critic and the hipster. All settings are Planescape mixed with Eberron. We have always played 3.PF. Everyone has always played 3.PF.

>>46616875
After a generation they are slaughtered under a mountain of angry peasants gaurdsmen stlye

>>46616474
Then the task falls to the government to ensure that the bills for the negative externalities created by the adventurers falls to them. Consequently, the adventurers will either 1) go out of business 2) pass the costs along to their clients, making the Knights competitive again, or 3) provide a higher quality service that minimizes the harm they do, which will likely entail more work and thus more expenses leading to adventurers charging higher rates.

>>46616875
How is that an encouragement of the free market when you explicitly stated that the Knights changed the law through regulations that only allow themselves to adventure?

>>46618467
>call it free market
>regulate it heavily
>give advantages to groups you want to succeed

That's pretty accurate. 'Free market' means whatever you want it to mean, and if there's anyone who could lobby for favorable legislation, it's the entire class of nobility upon whom the government's defense depends.

>>46615281

The great players shake hands, the great celestial game won. All has been won and lost, the whole of creation united under one banner. There are no more competitors, no ancient evil, no things from beyond, there is only order.

So closes the story of the setting, and all things now end as there is no further point of play, not even itself for they have conquered themselves, too. All options for future play have been closed, and the great paradox of play, that play is acted out in order to end itself, has been solved.

There is nothing left to do now. Nothing... Save, perhaps, resetting the game board, and beginning the game anew.

>>46618533
>'Free market' means whatever you want it to mean

So you're one of those, then.

>I can't ever be wrong if I just pretend that the subject of our debate is undefinable

>>46618654
I think he's more arguing in the vein of the age old "but real communism has never been tried".

>>46618654
I meant that people will use the term 'Free Market' as a buzzword to help them defend whatever position they take, even if the position is obviously protectionist or otherwise violates free market principles.