Jumpchain CYOA Thread #779: Blackest Night Edition

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Here's the latest version of GLTAS
http://pastebin.com/d4KZfXEV

I need help with Capstone and I need help with making sure drawbacks look good.

>>46584151
Are there any differences in the series between the rings?

>>46582964
>Cosmic Fire [. . .] couple that with Molten Warrior
Uh. Anon. Cosmic Fire is a C'tan power. Molten Warrior is Warpfire. The two really, really don't mix well.

>>46584207
Not really they all do the same just different colors. Like Red Lanterns like to puke red energy, and Star Sapphires like to encase men in crystals but that seem to be more a thing on their homeplanet than anything else. Hope Lanterns can't use their Energy Constructs without a Green around. Other than that they act the same.

>>46584151
Will you be adding more ring colors?

>>46584256
No. They're the only ones shown before the series was canned. Yellow Lanterns and maybe Indigo were going to be in Season 2, that never happened.

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So I seem to have reached Madoka again in my new chain, and I am wondering if these are acceptable limitations on a wish for a Mental Time Travel Ability Similar to Homura.
1) Cannot go to before the Jump begins, obviously.
2) Requires a minute of preparation, so I can't decide to hop back if the bullet is a meter away from my face. This is an inherent trait of the ability, so no using time magic or other things to wave it away.
3) It always goes exactly One Month, Four Days, Thirteen Hours, 6 Minutes, and Twelve Seconds back, no more, no less.
4) Once used, it cannot be used for at least One Month, Four Days, Thirteen Hours, 6 Minutes, and Twelve Seconds, so no chaining Jumps.
Any suggestions?

>>46584295
Doesn't the jump use up your wish for you in your background?

>>46584304
Not if you take Screw You Kyubey, apparently.

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>>46584295
Homura's time jump is actually variable length, rather than jump backwards a set length of time it jumps back to a specific point in time (when she wakes up in hospital). The maximum length of the jump is 47 days if she jump from the morning of Walpurgis Night.

>>46584356
So it would be better to say any time up to the Hard Limit, with a cooldown of the time I went back?

>>46584392
Just set a starting date for your time loop and say a jump always return to this point.

In PMMM, the starting date was 16/03/2011, the morning after Walpurgis Night was 01/05/2011.

>>46584130
First, I have figure to out what the 100 and 200cp perks for Drop-In will be. Damn it, why must this game be so hard to make a Jump out of?!

>>46584392
That doesn't sound unreasonable to me.

>>46584469
>16/03/2011
>16
I was unaware we had a 16th month. Unless you're using Day/Month/Year instead of Month/Day/Year, in which case ignore me and my sarcasm, and carry on with your gentlemanly ways.

>>46584295
Wait, we can wish for homura's time powers? That's legal? I thought it was a JC rule to ban anything resembling savestates/groundhog day abilities after the whole debacle with the perk from the old pokemon jump.
I'm certainly going to go for homura's time travel then. Was way too useful to pass up as both a training tool (more time to train by repeating sections of time over and over) and as a tactical tool (know what is going to happen a month in advance because you already lived it) to pass up.

>>46584469
So this would be more reasonable?
3) In a given Jump (The CYOA Kind, not the Time Travel Kind), I can set one Date which her mind will return to whenever I use the ability, with the date limitation removed post spark (because for some reason I care about that despite the whole point of this particular chain being to go on forever).

>>46584523
* which my

>>46584512
It's an unspoken rule, I think, so you CAN ignore it, though you'll probably get called out for it unless it's limited like Alice's. Besides, considering this takes place before the series, you would have to be very precise with your wish. After all, Kyuubey hasn't met Homura yet, so you can't say "I want powers like Homura." and her powers were gained under some very exact circumstances.

115. Kung Fu Panda
The Ways of The World: Way of the Traveler, Age: 22, Animal Species: Bird Species (-100) [Peacock]
Location: The City Jinzou
Gifts of the Paths: Tahlia Leap (-200), Slithered Body Style (-100), Sharpened Feathers (-100), Lung Chi Block Attack (-200), Rubber Body Style, Observation of the Ways (-50), Prophetic Visions (-200)
Friends on the Path: The Twisting Twelve (-400)
Trinkets on the Path: Local Wardrobe (-50)
Hindrances on the Path: Cloudcuckoolander (+100), Awesomeness is a Force (+100), Him!? (+200)

Chimmy: Way of the Dragon Warrior (-100), Monkey, Iron Body Style, Iron Fist Style (-50), Tahlia Leap (-100), Inner Peace (-200), Chi Warrior (-300) , Local Wardrobe (-50)
Falco: Way of the Traveleer, Falcon, Rubber Body Style, Fluttering Finger Mindslip (-200), Prophetic Visions (-200), Five Mystic Kung Fu Secrets (-300), Tortoise Shell Restraints (-100)
Roberta: Way of the Dragon Warrior(-100), Panther, Iron Body Style, Iron Fist Style (-50), Tahlia Leap (-100), Chao Wa Punch Kick (-100), Wuxi Finger Hold (-200), Inner Peace (-200), Local Wardrobe (-50)
Ko'el: Way of the Traveler, Albatross, Sharpened Feathers (-100), Rubber Body Style, Observation of the ways (-50), Sticky Dumpling Style (-100), Prophetic Visions (-200), Five Mystic Kung Fu Secrets (-300), Local Wardrobe (-50)
SoB: Way of the Dragon Warrior (-100), Bears, Iron Body Style, Tahlia Leap (-100), Chao Wa Punch Kick (-100), Wuxi Finger Hold (-200), Chi Warrior (-300)
Asriel: Way of the Traveler, Goat, Rubber Body Style, Tahlia Leap (-200) Sticky Dumpling Style (-100), Prophetic Visions (-200), Food Shop (-300)
Isaac: Way of the Fallen Warrior(-100), Alligator, Slithered Body Style, Golden Lotus Clap (-100), Lung Chi Block Attack (-100), Ingenuity of the Fallen (-200), The Twelve Impossible Moves (-300)
Toby: Way of the Traveler, Peacock, Rubber Body Style, Tahlia Leap (-200), Sharpened Feathers (-100), Prophetic Visions (-200), Five Mystic Kung Fu Secrets (-300)

>>46584523
>post-Spark
You know, now that I think about it, at the rate new jumps come out we may never actually get a Spark because we're always jumping a new jump. Actually, that's a good question: Jumpers! What's your plan post-Spark? Me personally, multiversial Kamen Rider/Lantern Corp./Hindu Cyborg JUSTICE force! Imagine it, an army of Kamen Riders with Asura's Wrath levels of power wielding power rings to spread JUSTICE and battle evil! WE'RE COMING FOR YOU, NYARLATHOTEP, AND ALL YOU OTHER MULTIVERSIAL BAD GUYS.

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>>46584599
To assume direct control of Earth's computer systems.

>>46584599
Plan is to faff about with unlimited cosmic power.

>>46584609
>That gif
MY EYES

>>46584599
In the hypothetical situation that I get a spark, I would work back through my chain, finding all the the cool things I wanted but couldn't have, like Divine Levels in Forgotten Realms, Symbiote Godhood, and The Groundhogs day spell in Mushoku Tensei, even if I don't need them. Then I'm going to make interdimensional portals for the as of yet non existent Correspondent Kingdoms in worlds that I couldn't before. Finally, I'll go to bed and sleep for a while to compensate for the dreams I've missed in so many years of not doing so.

>>46584544
Considering that the old savestate perk was "go back in time up to one month, but you can only do so ten times before you can't return to the same point in time", and the options mentioned by Alice were "go back in time slightly over a month, with one month cool down and no reload limit", go back in time an arbitrary amount of time with a cool down of the same arbitrary amount" and "go back in time to one set point however much you want". They are all better for my purposes than the old savestate perk was, either because you don't have to worry about only being able to return to the same date ten times, or because in the case of the third option you could potentially groundhog just under ten years each time if you set the return point to your entrance to the jump.

>>46584639
>Correspondent Kingdoms
Huh? What are those?
>>46584656
I suppose, though again, gaining that power would be a lot less simple than just wishing for it, there has to be some sort of "theme", I think. Like Homura wished to be able to save Madoka, and so she got time powers. So something like that? And he'd probably know if you were bullshitting him, though would he care is the question...

>>46584567
>Cloudcuckoolander and Him!?
Free CP, I'm already that special kind of stupid that leaves the world questioning how I buy cereal and annoyed at my choice to continue eating cereal over death..

My plan for this jump is to pop up on occasion much too close to the protagonists and vaguely hint at future events in such a way as to cause things to go smoother than usual. Little hints, fortune cookie words, soulcrushing phrases, whatever helps things turn out okay. I'll even run a little stand where I can read palms and things. And sell tchotchkes full of mystical power. I mean, I have a few laying around.

My companions will take on their new roles as warriors by fighting bandits, except Asriel. I'm running my little stand out of the back of his store. He'll sell monster food, because he can make it and it'd be a neat diversion. We'll be the weirdest shop on the block.

>>46584599
It's a two-step program. First I'll come back here and bless those I still care about after all these years. Family, probably. Then I continue a-wandering and hope that infinite universes theory holds up. When it doesn't I'm probably just going to find a nice, normal world and set myself up as a morally neutral source of vulgar magic while taking a nap. I'll leave when I wake up and try wandering again.

>>46584599
egalitarian multiversal post-scarcity post-mortality directly democratic Empire.

>>46584676
I figure path to victory can just give me the exact wish I need to make to get the time powers I want. The real question is whether this is a valid thing or I'll be accused of walking for having what is essentially savestates.

>>46584713
Wanking*

>>46584709
...I'm sure there's no way that can possibly backfire.
>>46584713
>Path to Victory
I keep hearing about this, what is it? Where is it from? What does it DO?

>>46584724
It's from Worm, it's one of the rollable powers. It tells you how to win.

>>46584676
This chains version of the Correspondent Empire, basically a country that follows me between Jumps on the Light of Terra and the Ark from ANNO 2070. It has that name because I couldn't think of a name, read the words "British Empire", and thought it sounded cool enough while still being somewhat representative.
>>46584656
Well my thought process was more "Time Travel is my favourite thing ever, there is a kind of time travel in the series that I don't have yet, let's wish for time travel think of ways to make it reasonable-ish.", but that works too, I guess.
>>46584724
It's from Worm.
>Thinker 7 & 8: Path To Victory - Your power, when queried with a goal or intent, searches possible futures for the one where you succeed and feeds you information on what you need to do to make it happen. This isn't perfect, being more like playing a video game with detailed set of objectives and the perfect strategy guide than Contessa's canon plot device level Path to Victory, but assuming there isn't any interference from factors outside of your powers precognitive sight successfully pulling off the objectives it feeds you will result in success. You can still make a mistake, or fuck it up, but the part of your goals where you need to know what to do to make it happen is handled for you. Just remember that it relies on your ability to pull it off, and while a path will adjust and modify itself based on the circumstances messing up might result in completely ruining your shot at victory. Paths given are effective based on your desires, but your power decides those parameters by analyzing you. Your biases can very well leak into the path, and even ignoring that you can screw yourself over by not asking the right questions. This power is also much more straining then the others on this list if not used in moderation. Post-Spark this evolves into a full fledged perfect Path to Victory, no limitations, no downsides.

>>46584724
From Take a drink Worm. The power you get from the jump is more like a strategy guide to life. The full power is basically auto-win because the power does everything for you.

>>46584724
it's from worm. basically you tell it what you want to happen and it tells you what to do, on a level consistent with the rest of the powers from worm. It's Broken as all hell, well it would be if it wasn't from worm.

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>>46584512
If you take the Fuck you, Kuybey background, you get inserted with magical girl powers powered by jumpchan instead of an Incubator.
The background says Kuybey will pester you for a contract the whole time you're there, though.

The *spirit* of the background is that you're someone who wouldn't make a contract with Kuybey in the first place, ever.
However, it doesn't outright say you can't make a contract in exchange for a wish at a later date, and I tried asking in thread once ages ago but nobody replied.

>>46584740
*and think.
Am I the only one who's noticed a sharp increase in asterisk corrections?

>>46584724
Path to victory is one of the powers from worm, the version you can get basically tells you what you need to do to achieve any goal you give it, and the steps are guaranteed to let you reach your goal. But you aren't guaranteed to be able to complete the steps because you might not be strong/skilled/etc enough.

>>46584762
THE ASTERISKINING HAS BEGUN.

Probably worth noting that Homura's time reset thing wasn't just her wish, it was her wish and her power. Combined with the suggestion from Kyubey that different amounts of potential can power wishes of different scales, the specific mental criteria the Incubators look for as potential, the existing age of any Jumper, and the fact that a Jumper would only be in that world for 10 years... it may just not be possible to pull off even without anyJumpchain restrictions on time powers.

>>46584750
Nah, Path to Victory definitely is the single most broken power in Worm. It is not balanced relative to any other powers in that setting in terms of possible impact - Contessa just automatically wins if there is even the slightest sliver of possibility that she can.

Question if SMT anon is still around: the Demon Fusion perk says you get buy the most expensive demon for full price, the second highest with a discount, and the least free. But what if you grab three 600cp demons?

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>>46584779
The only way to fight them is to never correct yourself, or go through all of the work of deleting your post and reposting it. Truly this is a war without any victors.
>>46584804
Actually, I took the amnesia drawback to pay for the Time Stop Ability, so the age and most likely the state of mind wouldn't really matter. I just wished for time travel because that's something I would wish for in real life, without any outside context reasons.

>>46584151
Hehe cannon companion (mogo)

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>>46584856
So I need an answer, which of these look best.
1) Cannot go to before the Jump begins, obviously.
2) Requires a minute of preparation, so I can't decide to hop back if the bullet is a meter away from my face. This is an inherent trait of the ability, so no using time magic or other things to wave it away.
3) It always goes exactly One Month, Four Days, Thirteen Hours, 6 Minutes, and Twelve Seconds back, no more, no less.
4) Once used, it cannot be used for at least One Month, Four Days, Thirteen Hours, 6 Minutes, and Twelve Seconds, so no chaining Jumps.
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3) In a given Jump (The CYOA Kind, not the Time Travel Kind), I can set one Date which her mind will return to whenever I use the ability, with the date limitation removed post spark (because for some reason I care about that despite the whole point of this particular chain being to go on forever).
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Or I limit it to a few seconds at first, with a very, very hard soft cap of about a hour, but I can use it on a combat scale without cooldowns.

>>46585036
If you are going to wank yourself time travel powers, then at least stick with the canon version in that jump. Go with 3).

>>46584151

Since they are batteries and not generators would they run out eventually?

If you are a short of lantern other than red and take The Shard would the color of its battery change to reflect that?

As above but with The Interceptor and green?

If we go with red lantern does our blood change like in the comics?

How do the rings compare to the ones in the comics? To the ones in young justice?

Can we refuse game in No Game No Live ?

>>46584151
Can these rings do the cross sector sniping done in the comics Lantern War?

Hey guys, is 'Strike-chan' still around? I've got some critique for the DxD Jump.

Spoiler: I am not impressed.

>>46585133
no one is

>>46585122
Yes, though theoretically if there is a conflict between you and another party the only way to resolve it is through a game, but you would still have to accept the game.

>>46585133
...That's it? You're not impressed? Do you have any more specific critiques about it? With all the issues that jump has, there's got to be more than that. Also, I haven't seen 'Strike-Chan' for like, thirty threads.

>>46585156
Ok that's good then.

>>46585122
You can refuse to a game's conditions before you declare 'Aschente', after that, it's way too late.

>>46585128
You can do anything with a Lantern Ring provided you have enough Emotion to power it. WoG anything and everything.

There are limiters programmed on the Rings themselves by the Guardians of the Corps it belongs to, but those can be overcome with enough Emotion. However, doing this will get you noticed by the Corps' Guardians and that's always a bad thing.

So go wild, but make damn sure you know where the Lines are and how you can circumvent them if you need to.

>>46585133
What in specific is unimpressive? If you're just one of those idiots whining because they don't get handed the top tier Sacred Gears, don't bother replying.

Burgli goes to the Borderlands! Is there rest for the wicked?

http://pastebin.com/KKuXAhVm

Also, some influences from the Predator series.

>>46585180
what are these limiters?

>>46585098
Naw they don't run out. They're "batteries" in that they recharge your ring but they never run out.

Yeah you can take the Shard with any color. Same with Interceptor.

No. They're seen taking off their ring and putting it back on.

The ones in the comics are kinda hard to pin down. Green Lanterns/Lantern Corps are like the Jobbers of the DC world. You need bunch of dead bodies? Call the GLC. YJ ones haven't really been used a lot so they're not really a good comparison.

>>46585199
Well the technology is great but it's not enough power to recreate a planet. Only the Blue Lantern Corps was able to restore a Sun by billions of years but they had an entire planet full of people hoping for them.

They GL ring is also unable to injure the Guardians, but in the comics Hal was able to overcome this. It earned him an exile, because the Guardians are dicks like that.

>>46585162
It's an understatement.

I figured that I could just get in touch with the Author and very politely inform of the clashes between what's been going on in the Universe and what they wrote. How it could have been organized better and so on. I didn't want to just bitch about it on the Thread, ya know?

>>46585181
Those bullshit Longinus Gears? Thanks but no thanks. I just have issues with their seeming ignorance of the setting, that's all.

I would actually list them out if it had a chance of improving the Jump but considering that they've done a vanishing act. It's not worth anything other than causing a bitchfest and a waste of everyone's time.

>>46585053
The problem is that it is the one with the most exploitability once you leave the Context of Homura, with the issue of setting the start date to a early point in the Jump and restarting at the end. I'd honestly feel like I would be wanking a bit too hard with that, and the whole point of the rules was to make it so I would have to actually be creative with it rather than do my best impression of Chara and never have any problems that I can't save scum away. The One Month, no less would ideally prevent me from save scumming to go back ten minutes to redo a certain fight over and over until I win unless I wanted to wait a month for the fight and have to redo any progress I made, no more so if the enemies gambit was set up more than a month in advance in a way that can't be stopped once it's started I wouldn't be able to counter it by waving my hand, and the short range version would limit it to mostly short term decisions.

>>46585197
yeah I don't know how your defeating that guy in melee combat without an action skill, guns etc. I respect that you are going for a low-power thing but that's wanking pretty hard.
>>46585211
allow me to rephrase that last question: would we be capable of the feats we see in the comics with a ring from this jump and the amount of whatever emotion powers it equal to the amount of emotion used for that seat in the comics?

>>46585247
It's a Lantern Ring, hell yeah you pull off some crazy shit with it. Why else get one?

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>>46584599
Everything we have worked towards is finally, FINALLY coming together to the point where an ultimate goal is in sight. To understand what we strive towards, one must consider what the ultimate threat to stability in the omniverse is.

Is it the Phyrexians? Of course not, they are ultimately little more than an extremely virulent infestation-abhorrent and repulsive, but not apocalyptic. Their empire can be shattered, their infectees purified in fire.

Is it the Eldrazi? Though the Titans can shatter planes with their presence, three were sealed beyond hope of recovery. They are mindless forces with their own cycles of predation and dormacy

We have gathered allies who may deal with those others. But who created the Phyrexians? Who sealed the Eldrazi, and freed them?

The Planeswalkers. THEY are the greatest threat to reality that has ever existed. Sparks have no rhyme nor reason to when they could be spread, so genocide is futile.

Moreover, several crucial things will occur as we Spark:

-Our Path to Victory will be fully unveiled.
-We will ascend from a Rider to a God of Taxes.
-We will attain omnicompetence in our original world
-Our mastery over the multiversal, transtemporal vibrations of reality will finally become absolute

The Spark will be the catalyst to one final apotheosis. Our current form is but a chrysalis for complete transcendence of mere physicality, while simultaneously manifesting in every plane of existence as a fundamental law of all that is.

And so, to protect every world we have visited and many we have not, we shall become the antithesis to whatever causes the Spark to occur. The benevolent and wise will be guided into harmony with the multiverse. The destructive will be captured to study how the Spark may be contained-or extinguished.

We shall create...the Planeswardens.

>>46585197
Burgli isn't coping well, is he?

Here's hoping he has another 'raise the little ones' moment, with the added bonus that he gets to put his new skills to work.

>>46585266
>We will ascend from a Rider to a God of Taxes.
>Rider to a God of Taxes.
>God of Taxes.
>Taxes.
...Why?

>>46585266
You're trying too hard.

>>46585266
The Anti-Planeswalker also fits, despite being a mouthful. Er, by chance, the whole JUSTICE thing won't break the multiverse, will it? I'm not exactly sure how this stuff works.

>>46585278
A pun on "nothing is certain but death and taxes", perhaps? Death has been taken already, after all.

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>>46585266
You realize Nicol Bolas is probably going to kill you right out of the gate if that is your goal, right?

>>46584599
The Eternal Wanderer is more or less my (boring) post-Spark plan.

I'd first travel to Worlds I've been to before, to check on what changes I've made to them. It should be fun and sobering at the same time. After that, it's all about travelling to new worlds to increase our collection of stuff and treasures.

>>46585308
You realise Nicol Bolas isn't some omnipotent god? He's lost several times in the past to people far weaker then our top jumpers.

>>46585308
>>46585313
>Nicol Bolas
Who?

>>46585330
A planeswalker of significant power. People hype him up too much.

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>>46585282
You'll have to be more specific.

>>46585278
Er, apart from what >>46585300 said? It's actually quite a versatile concept! D'you know how much dirt you can dig up on your allies, enemies and complete strangers by having knowledge of and manipulating their tax accounts?

>>46585308
>>46585313
We're expecting general horror from the planeswalker community, yes. Don't get us wrong, we know better than to underestimate Bolas. It's just that we have far greater concerns on our mind. He's the kind of problem it's important to control the initiative against rather than go after yourself immediately because he knows a thing or two about exploiting contextual loopholes.

>>46585330
The oldest and most powerful Planeswalker. Less powerful after the Mending happened, but still an aeons-old schemer who was once part of a race of primordial dragons-and IIRC the last survivor as of the current editions.

>>46585299
I'm...actually not to familiar with M:tG myself. I think there actually are a few good Planeswalkers, though. Certainly most of the Bad Things I've heard them do come more from incompetence or ambition than actual good intentions gone wrong. Certainly, being able to back up JUSTICE with a slew of outside context problem solving tactics ought to save you some pain.

>>46585247
The action skill "I'm Over Here". By now, Burgli's been stacking melee after melee and stealth after stealth skill. The game's mechanics don't really account for things like having tendons torn. Sure, it may have been over quickly but if it wasn't it'd be a giant glowing target, flailing wildly at the darkness while getting critted by spears for hours on end.

>>46585268
Burgli's journey is a rollercoaster of xenophobia, right now he's bouncing between extremes. One of these days, he may finally reach some sort of neutral stance on people.

>>46585247
Pulling off crazy shit? Yes. The series has a tight budget because they splurged on the CGI, so they could only use unique constructs and rigging every few episodes. The series was great but don't take it as to what they can really do. They'll be more in line with the DC Jump's rings.

>>46585278
I see you're .3s late on filing your taxes and $.34 off the amount you owe the government. That'll earn you a year in hell.

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Ok I think barring anyone screaming at me to change something. This should be jumpable by now. http://pastebin.com/d4KZfXEV

I'm going to go to sleep and when I wake up I'll make any changes that y'all point out. Then I'll put it in a PDF and upload it.

>>46585627
>Posting then going to sleep to run from criticism
Disgusting

>>46585642
Well he also posted at the start of the thread, this is more a reminder.

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>>46585642
How is it running when I'll see them when I wake up? I'm not shy on taking on people. Just right now is 6:11am CST and I need some sleep.

>>46585627
Maybe you should've just waited and posted at a time when most people are awake? You're not going to get many responses and it does come off a bit lazy and/or sneaky.

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>>46585668
Eh, whatever they'll see it when they'll see it. At least it's at the start the thread so that it doesn't fall to the sidelines of any potential shitstorms over something or another.

If people have something to say, post it. I'll read it eventually and I'll have a fresh pair of eyes when I do.

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Query on the Kung Fu Panda jump - what would the Standard Quality Weapons (and by extension, the Fine Quality Weapons) turn into in a modern or futuristic setting?

Would they turn into a modern standard soldier's gear (eg: combat knives, handguns, assault rifles) or a modern martial artist's weapons (eg: the same spears/swords/shields/staves but in modern materials)?

>>46585627
>http://pastebin.com/d4KZfXEV
might I suggest adding something that makes your emotions stronger? And a Green Lantern jump without willpower boosts seems a little silly.

>>46585627
How fast can the Shard you buy go? I was going to go with it then I saw the Interceptor's speed, wondered why they needed a ship when they have rings and re-read the speed in the rings listing.

Also, if you studied the Interceptor during the jump, could you learn to make one as a construct?

>>46585627
Can you choose to start on Earth? As in, actual Earth rather than a not-Earth planet?

Should the "was" in the Red lantern ring's description be "wasn't"?

The intro seems a bit meta.

Why aren't there any background-discounted items?

>>46585627
how big is the shard compared with a baseline LoT?

>>46585740
it doesn't have a true AI, just eat it.

>>46584320
If you take Screw You Kyubey there is no wish involved, your powers come direct from the Benefactor.

>>46585627
If I use the star sapphire ring as a medium for a yandere demigoddess wielded by a yandere with a yandere black blood weapon what output am i going to see?

>>46585753
I don't have Savage Salvage and even if I did I wouldn't want to eat an entire spaceship.
Also, you can see roughly how big it is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8Z8K_Q6U4Y

>>46585242
Time travel... always struck me as a can of worms of last resort. What did you decide for "how does it work" and "what are the ethical implications" (assuming your jumper cares)?

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>>46585627
Hey Many, I see you've gone with a 100/200/300/600 perk line.
Unfortunately this means the 300cp option gets discounted to 150cp, but there are no 50cp options, so we're left with 50cp left over.
Could I suggest you move the 300cp perks to 400cp, or add in a few 50cp items/minor perks?
If you want to add minor stuff, it could be related to our alien species having some kind of native advantage (night vision, smarts, brawn etc.).

>>46585944
That is one odd picture. There's some green thing seemingly photoshopped into the blue pic, and the Indigo lantern is some OC or something?

>>46585957
I dunno, I just googled something for a relevant picture.

>>46585627
I noticed that Lantern Rings have gone from “limited by what Hal Jordan can do in the series” to “that which Kilowog can do within the comics”.

Can anyone say what this means for us non comic book people? After a quick Google, it seems that Kilowog is an exceptional lantern: apparently he pulls spaceships out of black holes, has beaten Superman effortlessly in the two times they’ve fought, and is more than a match for at a half dozen Lantern mooks minimum. I’m hearing that he’s regarded as maybe the fifth most powerful Green Lantern, whatever that means.
I’m assuming you’ll want to change the later line where emotional empowerment has“ a limit which is what you would see Hal Jordan do when he puts all his effort into it.” to bring it in line with Kilowog.

Bit of a tangent here, but I’m remembering that the Arrow Speedster underwent a bit of a last minute change to, where the power threshold went up substantially.. Not trying to seriously accuse anyone of anything, it’s just an observation a cynical little part of my brain can’t help but notice.

>>46584151
I'm guessing these are not as powerful as the comic ones.

Or at least they really shouldn't be.

>>46585627

>The power of a ring is limited to that which Kilowog can do within the comics.

Jesus Christ, Manyfist, I know you bought a Power Ring in the DC jump but sticking in something for free that is more powerful than anything in the show to save yourself 1000 CP in another build is skeevy as fuck.

>>46586369
Since I'm not familiar with the show, what IS the range of power for the average ring from the show?

>>46585627
If the guy I just replied to's concerns are valid, consider them seconded. If not, I just think it's a little odd there's no discounted items for individual backgrounds.

>>46586591
More people hitting each other with glowy hammers and less taking 16 billion life energies into a ring and carrying them to a less doomed planet (an actual Kilowog feat).

>>46586624
I...see.

Yeah, that's. That is not okay, then. Serves me right for underestimating things with silly names; until recently I thought Larfleeze was a joke character.

>>46584830
And if not, then she can see that there isn't a path and she can ask questions until she figures out a way to win anyway.

>>46586652
>Larfleeze
Hoh boy.

More seriously though, welcome to the Lantern Section DC, mad amounts of bullshit ahead.

>>46585627
So Blue Lantern is basically the Companion ring, right?

Anyway, I'm not crazy about this Jump. Most of the perks seem kind of... Eh, which makes it feel like it really is just about getting the Ring. Especially since the benchmark is the comics and not the series; series tend to be toned down for sanity's sake.

>>46585627
can we instead of automatically getting the full power ring spend 1200cp or something to upgrade them from in show rings and have a drawback like predator is free attached so its not just come here get free ring. because that is ridiculous for the level of the show.

>>46585627
Generally just try not to get involved with shit that involves other peoples jumps of settings I have made jumps for (nearly always DC admittedly) or comment on power ring stuff generally and I'm probably going to regret posting but honestly this is pretty annoying.

The Kilowog cap is the problem I have with this. There is no justification at all in using the same cap as the DC comics jump has.

I'd almost prefer it if you just offered a full comicbook level nonsense style 'does whatever the plot wants it to' power ring than this to be honest as this feeble attempt to not look like it's a powergrab or stepping on any toes ('it's not any more powerful guys and it's the same cost, you only get one for free') is just sort of insulting.

First point is that comic book style feats are a lot higher than any we see in the show. Second is that if you're going for the whole 'yeah but it was budget constraints and the rest of the world must be more ridiculous' then why would you only limit it to the ring colours seen in the show? Was it maybe because you to some extent acknowledge that you should provide what is demonstrated in the source material and not other assumed stuff?

Fuck.

Y'see this:

>>46586001
>limited by what Hal Jordan can do in the series

Makes absolute sense. Wouldn't do as good a job of saving you 1000 CP in the DC jump but hey.

>>46586785
I feel you, man. I dunno what's wrong with Manyfist but he seems to have some trouble distinguishing between different series' powerlevels since he assumed the Arrowverse's Speed Force would work exactly like the comic book version. I think he might be autistic-I don't even mean it as an insult, I mean actually too autistic to realise why things with the same name aren't equivocal.m

Anyway yeah, I'm also in favor of >>46586001's proposal

>>46586775
I rescind my previous comment i just actually checked the show out and it isn't even close enough to justify that.

>>46586728
Let me expand on this a little bit. I like the "simple constructs" capstone - it explains things we see people do, and is very useful for a given build. But all the others barely relate to the main thing in the series - being a Lantern. Why not a reverse one - one that makes you better at making very complex constructs? Or working with other Lanterns to put your effort together? Why not one that has you overflowing with your emotion for an immense but less controllable power boost? Maybe tricks dealing with the other aspects, like Kilowog's booms? I dunno, I just expect a Green Lantern capstone to relate to being a Green Lantern, not just be something recycled from every third Jump. Because honestly, that's what this feels like - a bunch of recycled perks around a free 1000 CP item.

How hard is Nanoha jump? I want it's my first high level jump and ita my 17 jump. Ealier I was in Precy Jackson demigod of Odin and blood of kings Lugh. So maybe I will live.

>>46586858
>. I like the "simple constructs" capstone - it explains things we see people do, and is very useful for a given build. But all the others barely relate to the main thing in the series - being a Lantern. Why not a reverse one - one that makes you better at making very complex constructs? Or working with other Lanterns to put your effort together? Why not one that has you overflowing with your emotion for an immense but less controllable power boost? Maybe tricks dealing with the other aspects, like Kilowog's booms? I dunno, I just expect a Green Lantern capstone to relate to being a Green Lantern, not just be something recycled from every third Jump. Because honestly, that's what this feels like - a bunch of recycled perks around a free 1000 CP item.
Can we also get perks as bits of the green lantern oath fro flavour reasons?

>>46586904
That would be fantastic. I'd love to see perks based around (but not exclusive to) your Ring Color instead of just your background.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu547H94bZ0&ebc
Quick look on Youtube comes up with this as a good showing of the power level, but the most impressive feat is once Mogo has been empowered by a Blue Lantern (in a roundabout way).

They still seem good, but nowhere near comics level at all.

>>46586934
This could be really good. Even if it is only one set of 300/400cp perks discounted for your ring colour it would still add more variety to the jumps offerings. While I dont mind this jump being a thing, I do think it currently has all the colour and smell of a powergrab; therefore I agree with the other anon's suggestions to limit power rings as weaker than Kilowog, if only to not make buying a power ring in the main DC jump redundant.

>>46587203
Oh yeah, actual fight is at around 3:30.

>>46584599
Transforming my individual GENOMs into a true multi-dimensional megacorporation. Perhaps I should call it a Hypercorp or a Multicorp?

Not too mention plenty of universes I took a break from the megacorp building, so I'll probably go back to them.

Honestly just what I've always been doing, drop my tonelico towers on new worlds, create new species, sell shit, and SCIENCE! I'll just upscale my operations. Probably start making Dyson Spheres and/other mega-structures as business centers in galactic markets.

>>46586895
Let me put it this way.

Is Nanoha your first jump?
>Yes
Did you load up on drawbacks?
>No
You’ll be fine.

>>46587203
Still looks pretty good, yes. But this makes me sad I can't take Mogo along.

>>46584751
yeaaah, if you take Fuck you, Kuybey, you need to send that fucker into the sun
several times
actually maybe you Pod him against his will and blast him into something deadlier than the Sun in a place where he can't just transfer to a new body

>>46585211

Does the same amply to the Power Batteries in the DC Jump? I was always curious about that because I didn't want it to run out of energy to recharge my ring with.

>>46587795
Hmm.
I wonder if an Avada Kedavera would work on the furry little fuck?
Time to do SCIENCE

>>46585364
Don't listen to the salt. The ability to climb a tree and throw accurately alone would have been enough to kill the faggot.

>>46587795
>>46587866
Isn't Kyubey hiveminded?
I think you'd have to destroy the whole species to get rid of him.

>>46587914
This. It's pretty much what the visuals implied Homura ended up doing in Rebellion Story: Just sort of gank the whole lot at once with her stolen goddess powers.

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What's your favorite or go-to Pokemon team-comp and your favorite moves Jumpers?

>>46586895
>>46587755
Anon will probably be safe if they take the befriending drawback too, since that one guarantees you'll be besties once she kicks your ass. If you're not a monster anyway.

>>46587210
>>46586934
So what, a perk based on shitting rage blood, one that helps you inspire hope, and one that, I dunno what Star Sapphires can get that's any good. Their thing is going insane with love, not making people fall in love or spreading love.

>>46588124
my go to team is myself and my wife
my go to moves are pain split and is spiky shield, they have saved my life more times than you can imagine

>>46588261
I thought I filtered you, you little shit.

>>46586785
Dude, at this point we're going to need another spat of bullshit before Manyfist actually fucking learns.

It happened with WoW, it happened with Arrowverse. Fist does something tremendously stupid, everybody yells at him, Fist is smug, collective SHITTING on him finally gets him to change it.

So if i imporr my black blood companion into a jump with an origin bezides drop in could we still fuse together? Could he stay in my body but still get perks and stuff?

>>46588813
Wow. I know you don't like him, but that was rude. Don't go insulting him just because you screwed up setting your filter.

>>46588883
You don't know Tera if you don't know he deserves all insults. Beyond that, said anon didn't mess anything up. Tera recently changed his trip to evade people's filters.

>>46588899
No, I've been around a while, I know why people don't like him. I just think that sudden attacks like that make you look worse than your target. I was not aware of him changing his trip, though, I don't really pay attention to those.

Which Choir did you go with anons?

>>46588943
What are you talking about?

>>46588950
I think he's talking about LoT.

>>46588950
Your battle nun Choir from LoT.

>>46588124
For the majority of my first ten years of Pokemon, I went with a "balanced" team. (Read as: I grabbed my favorites and pulled a couple random Pokemon to fill in the holes)

But once I settled down as a gym co-leader with my then-girlfriend, I settled into a Fire-type theme (to contrast her Ice-type) generally consisting of:
Arcanine, Ninetails, Talonflame, Volcarona, Houndoom, and of course my starter, Quilava.

My return trip was the similar, but the other way around once I got around to joining the Elite Four, with my primary team being my original.

Speaking o the Light of Terra, in the first DLC, why does going to Oblivion give you so much CP? Is it dangerous?

>>46588813
He recently changed trips.

>>46589060
Basically, the further in you go, the more you encounter the natural dangers of the Star, and the more times each other drawback you took comes into play.

>>46589106
Ah, alright, thanks Anon.

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>>46589021
we've got a hothead over here

>>46586001
>pulls spaceships out of black holes, has beaten Superman effortlessly in the two times they’ve fought, and is more than a match for at a half dozen Lantern mooks minimum
Holy shit. Doesn't than mean a power ring is basically the most powerful thing you can get outside of end jumps?

im sorry i might be retarded but "how to jumpchain" doesnt actually seem to explain how to play this game

>>46589265
Not even remotely. None of those fights were Silver Age Superman and his planet towing super god status.

>>46589291
You make a build then imagination happens.

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>>46589228
I technically have to accept that.

>>46589310
What can you buy that makes you more powerful than punching out Superman and overpowering black holes?

>>46589368
Depends which version of superman specifically.

As far as blackholes, it's easy. Anything with FTL.

>>46589438
>As far as blackholes, it's easy. Anything with FTL
There's a difference between using technology specifically designed to circumvent it and doing it through sheer force of will.

>>46589459
FTL ships aren't specifically designed to avoid blackholes you nonce.

>>46589459
Yes, and the Green Lantern Rings are technology specifically designed to circumvent things like black holes. Or did you think Lanterns took years to go from planet to planet?

Speaking of DDS, what is the best Bonus Boss Mantra? Fire of Sinai, Celestial Ray, or Death Flies?

>>46585923
>"how does it work"
Incubator Magic that creates alternate timelines, all of which are to some degree valid.
>"what are the ethical implications"
Everyone does lose their memories unless they have some way of avoiding it, but have a strong sense of Déjà vu when they do something they have done before, and have dreams of what once was.
Sorry for the delay, I kind of fell asleep.

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Alright I listened to your advice. Made the following changes:

1.) Rings are limited in power to what Hal Jordan can do in the series & the comicbooks related to the series. Yes there's comicbooks but it's a seperate continuity from the mainstream comics and follows the series. However it delves into other adventures that weren't related to the storyline they had going on in the animated series. Including the Main Man himself.

2.) 300cp is now 400cp. I kinda goofed and I admit that. The 300cp thing was an old format and I didn't want to put in a bunch of little items that didn't fit.

3.) Indomitable Emotions are added in. Basically it's your Will/Hope/Rage/Love boost type deal. Also you know the basics, thanks to Basic Training. So you don't have to work to figure things out without a drawback.

4.) Added a free for all one time discount on any item or vehicle (power rings aren't included). 100cp items are discounted to free! Mostly because the discounts otherwise wouldn't of made sense and there's so few items in general.

5.) I reduced the meta opening a bit.

http://pastebin.com/d4KZfXEV

Is there anything else? I'm sorry I didn't link all your posts, but I have read majority of them. Including yours Bancho.

>>46589532
I just pick the one with the coolest name myself.

>>46584480
Drop-in always gives me trouble too.

>>46589576
Well, that's that. As long as the comic books' feats don't diverge wildly from the show I'm game. Still miffed about the lack of discounted items but it doesn't seem to be one of those deepest lore shows.

>>46589532
Celestial Ray, the problem is that it comes with the strongest bosses to fight. If you want to see them, here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyZSG91lVFA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDYzy232pLA (6:53)
(Couldn't find Death Flies, Sorry)

>>46589637
From what I saw it was in line with what was seen in the series. Seeing it was 2D they gotten away with having a little more unique constructs like a brick wall, safety cord & harness, and a stop sign. Stuff they could've done in the series but budget concerns caused them to reuse a lot of their simplier constructs. Which benefited Hal more than anything.

>>46588879
So yes if he gets an alternate form hed still be my blood.

>>46589710
Something about what you said is absolutely hilarious to me.

>>46589710
Alright. That sounds good. Sounds like it's ready to be PDF'd.

...

...you know, I know what the answer probably is but what on earth posessed you to set the rings' capabilities to something orders of magnitude more powerful than anything ever shown in the show? Do you recognise, at least, the basic principle that powerlevels aren't always equivocal across different continuities for the same franchise?

>>46589576
Seems good. Questions through: If you buy a second Ring, you can pick another color, right?

Also, if you get Shard, could you start up your own Corps in other worlds, since that has a central battery? or am I missing something?

Also, I am still sad I can't get Mogo to join me. Any specific reason for that, or is it just because of hugeness?

>>46589576
Okay, if I also have a Ring from the DC jump and get one from here, and I have a ton of superscience perks, could I figure out how to upgrade this ring to comics level eventually?

I've got two companion slots, what canon characters would you take from the X-Men movies ?

>>46589710

I am going to need more information on the shard.

>>46589839
Jean Grey and Mystique.

>>46589839
Deadpool and past!Mystique.

>>46589809
Mogo doesn't socialize. That's just how he is. He's not antisocial, he thinks you're great, he just doesn't want to hang out with you. Don't feel bad, he's the same with pretty much everyone else.

>>46589914
Wow, he's...literally me

>>46589914
Aw, but he's awesome.

>>46589368
Depends on the version, Byrne superman was nerfed seriously until after Death of Superman, and even then his power level dipped and spiked.

Black Holes are one of those things in comics no one can decide are serious shit or laughable easy to deal with.

>>46589809
Yes.

Yes & No. You can if you somehow are able to get multiple rings and send them on their way. However it doesn't provide that option for you.

Mogo is a planet. Mogo for most part doesn't socialize.

>>46589828
Fanwank it.

>>46589846
What you need to know? It's a huge asteroid that houses a city and acts like a homebase for the Red Lantern Corp.

So I actually have a question about the Rings from the DC jump. Can they only do constructs, or can the do other things we sometimes see rings do like absorbing and projecting various types of energy, storing items in a pocket dimension, opening wormholes, phasing through matter, etc.

>>46585197
Don't mean to be an asshole but i like this installment much more than the Undertale. I think this character works much better exchanging glancing influence with the main story and characters while carving out his own niche in the setting.

>>46589999
>You can if you somehow are able to get multiple rings and send them on their way. However it doesn't provide that option for you.
Well the main universe Rings can create copies of themselves but not new batteries. Could we create miniature batteries linked to the one in the Shard?

>>46589999

Do those shards have liberator bombs?

>>46589999
Does the interceptor exist in universe? If so how much difficulty would I face trying to steal it?

>>46589912
>Deadpool and past!Mystique.
How would that even work, the timelines do not match

anyway magneto and Xavier are probably the most Op with Jean Grey from memory, but i wouldn't trust telepaths

>>46590053
Yeah. However the rings you can create in main universe are weaker more you make. Sinestro was only able to give the people of Kourgar rings for 5 minutes. However he was able to give Hal Jordan his own ring.

>>46590071
No. They don't come with Liberator bombs. Planet buster weapons not included.

>>46589999
>Yes & No. You can if you somehow are able to get multiple rings and send them on their way. However it doesn't provide that option for you.
Hm, okay. So if I find a way to duplicating the Ring I get, it should work? Minecraft Cheatmode, go! And/or reverse engineering, since they're tech, right?

Anyway, you said the purchasable Shard would match your Lantern color? What happens if you buy it with the dicsount and grab a second Ring of a different color? Do you get a dual-colored giant battery, two of them, or do you just pick one color for it?

>>46590141

>No. They don't come with Liberator bombs. Planet buster weapons not included.

Then what is the point of the shard costing 1000cp?

>>46590123
It does exist! It's what they ride around in. How hard it would be to steal? Well considering in the end it's used to send Anti-Montior & Aya into another dimension using Ultrawarp.

>>46590162
Presumably, it being a fuckhuge space fortress.

>>46590141
I thought it was he could only give them a ring for 5 minutes before the charges ran out. Wasn't it a plot point a long time ago that Kyle had the last ring was repopulating the Corp?

>>46590138
The drawback that makes Deadpool exist makes it so his story takes place in whatever timelines you're in.

>>46590171
Should be relatively easy if you just don't allow that to happen, right?

>>46590160
If you purchase two rings, you'll get two batteries. Just only one will power the Shard.

>>46590191
Yes but he had the power of ION to do that. ION allowed him to do crazy shit like that. He was basically WILLPOWER.

>>46590180
Yep!

>>46590216
Sure but you'll have to find a way to stop anti monitor.

>>46590246
Could I pod and Emotional Entity and let it live in the Shard's battery, then convince it to help me make more?

How does a RWBY Aura user compare to a trained Force Sensitive? I kind of want to make an army of them and have them help me overthrow the Republic.

>>46590315
I don't know about mainline DCverse but in the GLTAS it was only hinted at for ION it's how Aya was created. Science director took a bit from ION.

>>46589999
Them quads. Any way if we use minecraft cheat mode will the duplicate we make be bonded to us still ?

>>46590361
Oh, does that mean Aya's off limits for Canon Companion?

>>46590383
You can always solve that problem by making a duplicate ring in the mainline universe then Cheat Mode! that one. That way the people you give the rings to won't have ability to use them against you.

>>46590349
Aura users tend to be physically superior; faster, stronger, and waaaaaay harder to hurt, but they don't get some of the Jedi's best tricks like their future sight. They also get less powers over all, and their semblances aren't guaranteed to be good.

>>46590361
Hey, Guardians have the ability to manipulate emotional energy without a ring, right? If I use genetic manipulation to make myself one of them, can I do that, too?

>>46590349
Pretty good I'd say. If only for the aura user's freakish durability.

>>46590406
No. She only has a tiny bit of ION and that's only for the fact she has emotions. She's fair game.

>>46590435
Oh, and naturally the fact that aura users tend to use slugthrowers, which Jedi can't block.

Do viruses/parasites imported or purchased through RE viruses/parasite customization have a replenishing supply in case they get lost or destroyed?

>>46590420
>>46590435
Thanks. I think this is going to be my go-to way of making super soldiers.

>>46590431
They use rings in the series.

>>46590455
They can block slugs they can't just reflect them.

>>46590349
>Army of Aura users
Wait, what? How? Is there an item that grants Aura in the jump?

>>46590455
Though on the other hand, they also tend to use swords, which Jedis can cut through

>>46589576
I still feel like most of the perks are incredibly generic and don't really capture the feel of the Corps at all. But I'm not sure how to help with that. It can just be a generic and boring Jump, I guess.

>>46590518
Yes, several.

>>46588863
How'd he fuck up WoW?

>>46590520
Well, yeah. But if the Jumper is commanding them, you can just order them to just line up in a line and fill the air with bullets, 17th century infantry style.

>>46590518
Not that anon, but Aura can be 'unlocked' by another Aura user.
Pyrrha did it for Jaune.
Poor Pyrrha. I just gave myself feels again.

>>46590568
She deserved her fate.

>>46590520
Not if you make cortosis weapons, I believe they're called. Those block lightsabers.
>>46590550
Like?
>>46590568
Jaune already had the potential for Aura though, I don't think that applies to other universes. Also, I feel you man.

>>46590577
You're a monster.

>>46590600
The book that you can buy teaches you how and lets you do it for people in other jumps.

>>46590624
Oh, alright. Now I'm immensely curious at what I can do with this...

>>46590614
She's a murderer.

>>46588943
It wasn't exactly a choice.

>>46590600
The book Aura For Everyone lets you teach it to other people. The Aura Booster lets you give it to people artificially, doing it faster but with risk of harming them. The Aura Eater can transfer Aura between people, consuming one person's ability to grant it to another.

>>46590662
Indeed.
Now where's my morphine damn it.

>>46590481
Pretty sure they can Fist. IIRC, there are several instances of a Jedi pushing an RPG shell or a grenade back at an attacker.

The question is if they have the reflexes to do so.

>>46590651
Oh, you're one of those anons.
>I doesn't matter if it was an accident and she was being manipulated at the time, she's GUILTY!

>>46590412
How so ? And i was asking if i cheat mode the one i but not the copy i make would it still be bonded to me and essentially be my ring? Forgive ne for not being clear enough.

>>46590685
In Force Awakens we even see Kylo Ren grab a blaster bolt out of the air and just hold it there while he's having a conversation with someone, just to dhow off.

>>46590702
Murder is murder, anon.

>>46590733
Blaster bolts are also hilariously slow.

>>46590733
Meanwhile Vader can catch them and dispel them no problem.

Kylo is a fucking loser.

>>46590760
Accidental Murder is called Manslaughter Anon.

>>46590760
So Involuntary Manslaughter should be punished with death?

>>46590760
It's not though.
For example, murder in self defense is not murder.

>>46590760
You can't murder a robot, as machines aren't people.

>>46590803
Penny was an Artificial Person, she still was a person. She just wanted friends.

>>46590799
>>46590790
Manslaughter is dubbed Second-Degree MURDER in many jurisdictions anons.
>>46590802
It wasn't self defense.
>>46590803
Racist.

>>46590803
Not the 'murder is murder' anon, but Penny DID have soul. I personally believe that that constitutes personhood.

>>46590841
You can't build a soul!

>>46590861
They did though.

>>46590839
I never said it was self defense.

I was merely providing a counter example to the statement that murder is murder. Because it's not.

>>46590824
>>46590841
>>46590760
It's not murder if it's a toaster.

Your toaster-waifu a shit.

>>46590889
She's not even my waifu.

>>46590839
Robot's aren't a race

>>46590839
So if one boxer accidentally kills another in a match, they should be sentenced to death?
Pyrrha was also under the influence of a mind altering power at the time, without her consent.
The true culprit and murderer of Penny is Cinder.

>>46590861
RWBY canon seems to imply otherwise. Or they somehow transplanted a soul.

>>46590889
Not my waifu. I don't have any waifus. Don't believe in the concept.

>>46590839
It kind of was self defense, at least as far as she knew. From her perspective, she was being attacked with an incredible amount of lethal force, and had to respond in kind to survive. That she was in fact perfectly safe and just had her senses screwed with doesn't invalidate her intent. Emerald's the one to blame for Penny's death, not Pyrrha.

>>46590760
>>46590799
>>46590790
Murder implies you were trying to kill somebody. Involuntary manslaughter is when you were doing something illegal or reckless that results in a death. In violent physical sports such as boxing, such accidental killings happen- and the one who killed their opponent didn't face repercussions.
They were simply trying to win their match, and had no way of knowing an attack would kill their opponent.
>>46590839
No, it's third degree for voluntary manslaughter, which is a crime of passion. Which isn't what happened. It wasn't even involuntary manslaughter.

It was destruction of property, plain and simple.

>>46590907
Nope, Pyrrha is the murderer.
>>46590918
It wasn't self defense, believing it to be does not make it so.

>>46590961
>No,
I'm sorry to tell you anon, but your perception is not universal to all courts. Bone up.

>>46590998
So if I trick you into killing someone, the blame lies on you and not me?

>>46590907
>The true culprit and murderer of Penny is Cinder.
While she planned it, technically it was Emerald who made the illusions and is directly responsible.

>>46590998
>screw with somebody's senses to make them see Gate of Babylon aimed right at them
>by someone they don't know is a robot
>expect to get off scot-free

Emerald, get off of 4chan. The CCT is down thanks to you and Cinder, how are you even here?

>>46591013
You're both to blame.

>>46590998
It's not murder if it's a tin can. Pyrrha was actually doing her sworn duty to keep them and those filthy synths from spreading.

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>>46591047
Brotherhood please go.

>>46591047
Ad Victoriam brother

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What is a soul? What differentiates true sentience from a well made program? Is there some intrinsic difference in biological beings verses artificial ones that simply cannot be replicated? You could sit and argue all day yes and no and maybe, but when you boil it down, the questions are rather silly.

Is a Man less of a Man because he has an artificial arm? Of course not. What about when he loses a leg, a lung, his heart, his eyes? Of course he's still a Man. He has his brain. Ah ha! But that too, with sufficiently advanced technology, could be replaced with a series of computer chips and memory banks. We could even write his memories, his personality, all of this scanned directly from his own brain and copied down to the very minutest detail. He is now entirely artificial, except for his sense of self. Is he still a man? He started out life as one. Where did he lose his "soul" then? What exact medical procedure robbed him of that?

You can also look at it from the other side of things. Take a Human Baby. They start out as little more than animals, running off instinct so deeply ingrained that they don't need the capacity for rational though. It grows into that capacity by taking in information from the world around it. Instinct teaches about dangers, which memory files away to remember later. Take an AI, given the capacity to learn but only the most basic of programs. By feeding it information, much as you would a Human child, you can teach it. It will learn differently, as would any kind of alien life, and see the world from a different sort of angle. Such a creature wouldn't be Human, surely, but saying it doesn't have a soul simply because it learns differently and thinks differently and requires an oil change instead of flu shots is a little harsh.

But then, that's just my two cents on the issue.

>>46591047
>>46591070
>>46591095
It was better when it was called Blade Runner

>>46590783
Stopping it in midair and leaving it hanging there is about more than just stopping it, it's about sending a message. It's not just ineffective, it's utterly useless to try.

So speaking of RWBY, I want to arm my own army of Aura users with Variable Weapons. What's a good alternative to dust?

>>46591047
How many times are you going to reply to me saying the same stupid shit?

>>46590553
In the original draft you couldn't learn skills beyond what you bought. And not skills like "how does a warlock summon a demon" skills. Skills like "what happens if I put this flower in water to make a tea" skills. You weren't allowed to learn. Full stop.
So you basically had a lobotomy for ten years.

>>46590839
You have no understanding of the law, do you? Second degree murder is murder with malice aforethought but without premeditation - basically the difference between it and voluntary manslaughter is the heat of passion. Then there's involuntary manslaughter, where there is no felonious intent.

>>46591212
Nah, it's about too shitty to dispel the bolt. Kylo Ren is a loser, that's established throughout the movie.

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>>46591165
You've got a good point there, buddy.

>>46591348
I don't seem to recall Vader keeping the bolts from even hitting him. But hey, that's okay; you're right, and he's basically an emo kid. So was Anakin; the prequels took away any teeth he ever had. Like grandfather, like grandson.

>>46591228
Minecraft EE Tech.

Would blasts made of pure ki thats dbz like be doable with alot of wuxia training? Could i buy it as a 900 cp nen technique i like the whole genocide homing energy blast super buu does.

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>>46591368
Did someone say "buddy"?

>>46591165
>We could even write his memories, his personality, all of this scanned directly from his own brain and copied down to the very minutest detail. He is now entirely artificial, except for his sense of self. Is he still a man? He started out life as one. Where did he lose his "soul" then?
It's a clone and not the original person.

>>46591403
In cloud city he blocked Han's bolts with his hand. That's way more badass.

>>46591410
How does that work?

>>46591430
My point had nothing to do with if he would be a clone or the original person.

>>46591345
You're wrong, in that the definition is not universal across all US courts.

>>46591165
Yeah, pretty much that. I remember reading a similar argument in Transmetropolitan, where people can upload their consciousness into clouds of nanomachines.

It struck pretty deep in me, cause i don't really believe in 'souls', though i have some headcanon on how they might work in fictionland though i don't think you would care to listen to it.

>>46591415
Maybe? I'm pretty sure the Wuxia jump already can give you what amounts to a Ki Blast. Temple of Thought/Dual Art it with systems that have a higher baseline and you should be able to get enough juice to equal DB/non-powerscaled DBZ.

The same goes for Nen. While Emitters can do a pretty good job already, it's a pretty low power setting. Juice it up with a stronger system's power source and the sky's gonna be the limit.

>>46591441
They hit his hand. If the bolts stopped halfway between him and Han instead, I'm pretty sure Han would have been shitting bricks a lot more visibly.

>>46591568
I doubt that, considering what Kylo Ren needed to put much more effort into using the force on the bolt, hold it there, and was far too weak to simply dispel the energy entirely. It's a much less technically impressive feat than fizzling the energy out quickly and easily.

Why are you fanboying the kid who was made to mock fanboys, Crux?

>>46591527
Where's temple of thought from ? And thank you i think making a 900cp nen technique for an emmiter would give me alot of wiggle room?

>>46591605
For the same reason Neo stops bullets instead of dodging them contemptuously. It's less technically impressive, but it's more visually impressive.

>>46591518
Transmetropolitan wasn't the first place I'd seen that kind of argument, but it is still one of the most striking pieces I've seen on the issue. It was very well put together and it struck a chord with myself as well. So... yeah.

>>46591638
It's from Binbougami Ga

>>46591654
So you're saying he's an empty puffball that needs to put on smoke and mirrors to look as impressive as the Sith lords that carry their confidence and skill with them.

>>46591686
Hes saying Han had no basis for being impressed on technical force use.

>>46591568
Kylo Ren is saying "I can keep you from harming me"
Vadar is saying" You literally can't harm me"

>>46591682
Thank you

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GLTAS if you bought an additional ring does Indomitable Emotion increase both emotions

>>46591709
He's defending a character we're meant to look on as pathetic, and saying he's not pathetic.

>>46591165
when you replaced the brain
btw
>with sufficiently advanced technology, could be replaced with a series of computer chips and memory banks
not going to happen, and if it somehow in a very, very distant future will, it would literally be the end of mankind so there would be no point in talking about humans or humanity anymore

>>46591759
Don't put words in my mouth. A blaster bolt being stopped in midair for a solid two minutes just plain looks cool, dang it.

>>46591759
No hes saying the visible demonstration was lost on Han, what Vader did was awesome, but Han had no way to understand that. If Vader had stopped it, Han could have clearly seen how outclassed he was. Vader cared about results, Kylo wanted to be a showboat.

>>46591785
I thought it looked pitiful and fake while watching the movie.

>>46591331
Also, you literally couldn't use any weapons beyond what your class could use.

Meaning if you used a two-handed hammer, and went mage for some extra casting capability, you suddenly went "durr how does hammer."

>>46591718
While you are correct, that's not how a person is going to think initially. While both completely stop one's attack, the latter is going to give the impression that one can still harm another, because their attacks still hit, even if they fail to accomplish anything. The first instills the idea that all of your attacks will fail, regardless of how hard you try, as they never strike true in the first place.

Kylo's still a fuckboy though.

Ignoring the debates above, SMT anon, if you're here, would taking the Fenrir(which dwarfs Godzilla) AND Giant races, how much strength would that give me?

>>46591767
>Man will never be able to fly! It's impossible!

>>46591767
>2016
>Not wanting to be Uploaded.

Look at this fuckin' meatbag!

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>>46591804
You thought the special effects looked pitiful and fake?

Right, I'm going to see my way right out of THIS conversation.

>>46591818
>Kylo's still a fuckboy though.
No denying that. 'Daddy I need help killing you, help me get my balls to drop.'

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>>46591767
Two thousand years ago, everybody KNEW your body was ruled by four humors and that bleeding would correct a number of illnesses. A thousand years ago, everybody KNEW the world was flat. A hundred years ago, everybody KNEW cigarettes were a great way to calm the nerves and increase focus. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow?

>>46591881
I thought action was pitiful, knowing what I do about the wider series the amount of effort he had to put into it made him look weak.

I though the special effects looked fake there. Because no matter how technically impressive, it just plain did not look very good or convincing to have a bright energy bolt waver around in place like it had the jitters.

So in WoW are your primary professions discounted or what?

>>46591826
Fenrir doesn't increase your strength proportionally by itself, and Giant doesn't scale with size, so you have maybe a few tens of tons more on top of your Giant might from the base strength Fenrir needs to even walk and function at kaiju size.

Still, you're gonna have a lot more leverage.

>>46591928
>A hundred years ago, everybody KNEW cigarettes were a great way to calm the nerves and increase focus
they are though

>>46591767
I for one welcome being our own robotics overlords.

Out of curiosity, would Setup Wizard from Harry Potter be enough to stop technology from being affected by the Hex in The Dresden Files?

>>46591928
things have not changed that much in two thousand years, what are you talking about is waaaay past any accomplishment we made since we were monkeys.

But ya, could be possible that's why i added the last part

>>46582908

Repostan question.

>>46591928
Nobody thought the world was flat. Anyone in a civilisation that wasn't totally landlocked could watch a boat sail away and get a first hand demonstration that we all live on a giant ball. The ancient greeks were able to calculate the size of the bloody thing almost prefectly, I think they were something like 2k miles out, and that was just by looking down wells at midday.

>>46592065
>Things have no changed that much in two thousand years
He says from his magic box of lightning, stone, and tree, as he sends messages all around the world in an instant to lands not even dreamed of at that time.

>>46591936
Oh, also is the legrndary weapon a custom or do you have to pick from the actual list?

>>46592076
But cooking makes it taste better.

>>46592135
I cook shit with a bite, that's good enough for me. I'd rather not nuclear holocaust everything around me.

And to the anon last thread who suggested Young Justice's Toggle - alas I could not afford it.

>>46592087
Yeah, the Earth being round was something that was understood by every culture that explored far enough. The thing they got wrong was geocentrism, not the shape of the world.

>>46592197
Explain the modern-day Flat Earthers to me then.

>>46592055
Probably, yes. Considering you'd already have experience making tech not fry itself in proximity to magic from Harry Potter itself.

>>46592216
They're stupid. That's about it.

>>46592216
Convergent evolution based on paranoia and a need to feel like they're the only ones who really understand things while the rest of the world is all either sheeple or oppressors. It's got nothing to do with antiquated ideas about the shape of the world, they came to it under their own power.

>>46592216
people really need to feel like they matter - being the 'one true keepers of truth' is a good (read bad/dumb) way for fuckwit bob to feel like he's better than all those scientisticalists with all thems fancy book learnings and edumacatins. He knows how things really work, so he's the best.

>>46592216
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say they're the inverse mirror to the people who believe every human discovery was engineered by aliens.

So basically they're dumb and should not be considered a reputable authority.

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>>46592076
I'd say it should, yeah.

>>46592395
Gracias.

Now not only am I reigning in my ambient heat levels, but could convert it to better uses as well. Thank you for the input.

>>46592566
No problem.

Out of curiosity, why are you uncontrollably generating enough heat to cook your surroundings?

>>46592055
Seems unlikely. A lot of the Hex comes from perceptions of magic rather than actual issues with the magic itself. That's why it used to sour milk.

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>>46592605
Clearly they're an 1000/10

>>46592675
...wish there was a perk to do that. I could always use more excuses to take vanity perks.

>>46592605
Experiments with Cosmic Fire rendering me what essentially is a Sun Elemental in human flesh.

I've got several power limiters, both perk-purchased and custom-made, and this is basically another layer on top of that until I can train the power up.

>>46589701
Really late, but here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RxW-4x5yQAc
Around 4:30-ish

>>46592659
But how is the interior of the Svartalf Apartment Hex Resistant then? I'm just asking because I've already taken the Experimental Aug in the Polity, A Symbiote in Symbiote in Symbiote, The Imaginos Body v1 in GUNNM, and Nanobots in Iji, so imagine there would be some problems with the Hex.

>>46592860
If I remember correctly, the Hex doesn't affect technology that's a part of you already when you start the jump, to protect against that sort of problem. You couldn't further cyborgify yourself while there, but if you're one going in you'll be fine.

>>46592860
*a Symbiote in Symbiote.
Truly I am the loser in the Asterisking Crisis.

>>46592914
...Unless you take the Stronger Hex drawback. Just be satisfied with 1600 CP instead of 1700 and you'll be fine.

>>46591756
No. You pick an emotion, and you'll have to buy the other one if you buy a second ring.

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>>46593023
Thanks Fist I was hoping to get an answer before the thread died

>>46593023
Willpower stacking from other jumps should work fine for Green through, right?

And what happens if you have complete control over your own emotions, can you just set the other Rings to max whenever you want?

>>46591959
Thanks. Also, if I bought 3 600cp demon races via the Demon Fusion perk, would they be all full price, all discounted, or full price, discount, free?

>>46593120
I think control over your emotions would max it at 100% of your potential output, but stacking perks makes that 100% much bigger. Although control over your emotions to that degree sounds like somewhat of a bad idea, especially with anger.

>>46593023
Could i get an answer on these Mr.Fist?

>>46592110
>>46591936

>>46593139
The last one.

>>46593171
>Mr. Fist
That should not be as funny as it is.

>>46593166
Why would it be a bad idea with anger specifically? I'd think that be the best one to do it with. Anger can be useful, but also a detriment, so controlling it is nice.

>>46593206
It's even funnier for me. I keep seeing it as Mr. Fisk for half a second until my eyes stop being retarded.

>>46593202
Gracias, last questions: does the Crown of Thorns item you mentioned before transform the Jack Frost companion into Lucifrost, will Seraph be a 1000cp demon race, and what else qualifies as a pest for Vermin Lord? Locusts, spiders, the like?

>>46593324
Yes to all three questions.

>>46593343
Alright, awesome, thank you. Looking forward to the jump whenever you finish it!

>>46593268
100% anger in general just sounds like a really poor life choice.

>>46593475
You'd only have to do that when using your Ring through? So it's notlike it's a permanent thing. And I think I have a perk somewhere to let me think while enraged...

>>46593023
Can you buy up another emotion without buying another ring? It'd be kind of fun to be able to increase my capacity to hope or love, but Green is clearly the best ring.

>>46593521
Wrath from Inside Out?

>>46593569
Think so, yeah. A quick check confirms I got that in my build, and the jump sounds just about like what I was thinking of.

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>>46593023
Fist how well does the GL emotional spectrum jive with Asura's Wrath Mantra

Like could I use a power ring to charge a mantra reactor or vise versa

>>46593023
>>46593564
Seconding this question. Warriors of love everywhere need to know.

>>46593773
Do you have Real Eater? If not, the only one to think about is the Red one.

116. CATastrophe
Race: Inumi, Age: 16, Origin: Drop-In
Location: Low Tech Settlement
Perks: Spliced, Cat's Grace (-300), Dog's Ear, Salty Dog (-400)
Full Party (-500)
Shinies: Snorkel Mask
Drawbacks: Cat Got Your Tongue (+200)

Chimmy: Usami, Spliced, Rabbit's Foot, Bear's Might (-300)
Falco: Kitsumi, Spliced, Dog's Ear (-300), Fox's Cunning
Roberta: Nekomi, Spliced, Cat's Grace (-300), Bear's Might (-300)
Ko'el: Inumi, Spliced, Dog's Ear, Fox's Cunning (-300)
SoB: Kumami, Spliced, Cat's Grace (-300), Dog's Ear
Asriel: Usami, Spliced, Rabbit's Foot, Bear's Might (-300)
Isaac: Inumi, Spliced, Cat's Grace (-300), Dog's Ear
Toby: Nekomi, Spliced, Cat's Grace, Rabbit's Foot (-300)

>Just over here?
...
>Okay.
>Hello, um... Jumpchan? It's me. Noble can't talk right now, but you knew that. He takes all those voice perks, but then just tosses them away on a whim, but that's just like him. He says he sees you sometimes when the rest of us can't.

>So, uh, when we first got here, everybody wanted different ears, and he changed them for us. So if you're wondering what happened there, that was it. They still work very well. The Kerykeion is doing really well, too. It's where we are right now. Shiny Hunters seem to like visiting us when they can.

>I'm rambling.
...
>I hope we're entertaining. You're so nice, and we never really get time alone with you, but I want you to know that you're important to everyone. It's embarrassing to say that at our dinners, but we all feel that way.
...
>Travelling has changed us all in a lot of ways. I can think of times things could have gone better, but at least I'm doing my best. Things are so different in every world. There are definitely ones where we're heroes. But I've been a villain, too. I think I'm going to have a talk with Noble about that, when he can talk again. I guess I'm just scared of what he'll say. There are so many ways it could go wrong.
...
>I should go now? Okay... Bye, Jumpchan.