/swg/: Kreia a Bitch, Atris a Beste Edition

>>46525690

>Not "Imperial Job Security" or "Promotions" edition

OP a shit.

>>46525690

Why is the Crane clan opening a star wars thread?

>>46525690
The previous thread didn't hit Page 10 retard.

Quick question, In Star Wars during the Clone war era how many clone Flight crew attends to a flight or squadron of ships?

>>46525771
Because you werent at your post at the wall Crab plebian

>>46525617
We all know that spoiler isn't going to happen. This has a much bigger chance of being true though:

She's probably gonna be Leia's daughter, thus the connection between the lightsaber, and why she was able to read Kylo's mind so easily. Leia probably got freaky with some nobody to forget about Han leaving her, ended up pregnant and dumped Rey on her dad to not cause a political scandal that would unravel the fragile New Republic. Rey's dad was probably a prospector on Jakku and died out in the dunes away from her. That's why she wants to go back. Because she thinks her dad is still alive on Jakku and looking for her

>Build a Bear making an Ewok plushie
>I can do a Lieutenant Kettch cosplay

HOLD ME BACK.

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>>46525890
Yub yub, Commander.

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>>46525875

Honestly I can live with that. Better than the "conceived by the Force" theory a lot of morons have been plugging.

>>46525875
I'm still not convinced that she isn't Luke's daughter.

>>46525904

I know how I'm going to do this too. Imp or pirate jumpsuit, strap the plushie to my chest like Wedge did at the end of Iron Fist. I WILL WEAR THIS FOR ALSTON.

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>>46525890
yub yub fett-man

>>46525690
Last thread hasn't 404ed pls delete

Someone make a new thread with a non shit op. Atris is a whore. Kreia was going to save the universe before the exile cruelly cut her down.

>>46525944
Atris a shit. Kreia a bigger shit.

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>>46525931
Godspeed, Anon. Godspeed.

>>46525944

KOTOR II Editions are seriously just as bad as Rosh Threads.

Segueing, who else is excited at seeing classic stormtroopers in theaters again?

>>46525996
Honestly, I'd rather have Rosh Hour than Kreia Time. At least Roshposts are the silly kind of bait.

>>46525941
Piss off.
it hit it's bump limit, it's dead.

>>46525910
>"conceived by the Force" theory a lot of morons have been plugging.
W-What? what is this? I have not heard of such a theory.

>>46525972
>>46525944
Kera and Atris a shit. Visar Marr best KOTOR II girl

>>46525996
Yeah that and AT-ATs wrecking rebel face. Pretty much the only reasons the teaser trailer showed that made me want to watch Rogue One

Rogue One will be shit. Shiiit.

>>46525690
Wait for page nine you cock

I honestly have no idea how force powers work in the FFG games. I have the F&D pdf open infront of me and it's waffling about making a force power check using a number of die, but nowhere does it seem to say what this pool is based off? It seems logical to assume it'd be the PCs force rating, but you can apparently add that many die to the pool so it isn't that. What am I missing?

>>46526101
>Visas Best girl

Truth.

She'll never see eye to eye with you though.

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>>46526099

So a bunch of idiots at moviepilot or whatever are plugging this theory Snoke is Darth Plagueis. And he created Rey in the same way he created Anakin, effectively making Rey Anakin's half sister and an honorary Skywalker. Which is why Anakin's lightsaber called to her.

These same people also believe Ben is a double agent trying to destroy the Order from the inside and never killed the other Jedi trainees. Apparently, that was on Luke, who got "too powerful" and accidentally had a Force Fart or some shit which is what actually killed his students.

Needless to say, I do not like any of these theories.

>>46526318
You roll Force Dice equal to the PCs Force Rating which gives you a certain number of points to use on Powers.

It's very suboptimal and inefficient. I was thinking of making some house rules for it.

>>46526337
I can accept the First one, barely.

That second one is stupid to the extreme.

>>46526375
thank you so much. It says the player rolls a die pool that usually is just force die, but doesn't tell you how you get to that conclusion, unless it's a combined force check. raaaaaaa

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>>46526402

>thinking anything involving Plagueis is even close to acceptable.

A lot of the stuff in the Prequels is bad, but Anakin's existence being the result of an alien necromancer impregnating a rando with magic is one of the dumbest things George pulled.

The only way the Plagueis stuff isn't bad is if you just pretend Sheev is talking out his ass to get Anakin's attention.

>>46525996
WHERE WERE THE FUCKING BOTHANS?

>>46526495

Um, the Bothans were involved in the SECOND Death Star act, not the first.

>>46526337
>Which is why Anakin's lightsaber called to her.
Wouldn't the simpler explanation be that Rey is the daughter of Luke and *name to be determined*? and that Luke left her on Jakku to keep her safe from a rampaging Kylo & Snoke? (since that actually worked for Luke)

>>46526410
Yeah, it's weird.

Here's a House rule though:

When using a Force Power, can choose to get Force Points up to their Force Rating but take an equivalent amount of Strain or just roll Force Dice Equal to their Rating to get Points.

Alternatively, they get Force Points Equal to their Rating and can spend those points to roll a Force die to get more Points. They can only do this as many times as they have Force Rating and have to pay Strain each time.

>>46526519
Still, their whole gimmick is being spies

not a one

and another white chick from England as the lead

>>46526469
I honestly don't care that much about Plagueis as I've never read his book. I do like the idea he was able to use the Force to manipulate Life, to an extent. It's a neat power.

>>46526519

>Diego Luna's character is Manuel Bothans.
>He's the sole survivor of this raid, which is why he'll be the first pick for securing the Death Star II plans four years later.

>>46526571
>which is why he'll be the first pick for securing the Death Star II plans four years later
Second and third picks are Tag and Bink, of course.

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>>46526495
>>46526519
Though it's true they weren't mentioned as being involved with plans for he first one, real reason we haven't seen them yet is according to Pablo they have yet to determine the one true canon appearance of Bothans. In TFA we get the Tarsunt which are from Bothan Space o a close enough substitute for now.

>>46526595
>Center Bottom

That's a female right?

>>46526531
I think it's supposed to be because she has an imperial accent.
Also what's wrong with British accents in Star Wars, most imperial officers seem to have them right?

>>46526101
You seem to be spelling Mira wrong. Let me help you, M-I-R-A.

>>46526531
Don't forget that white women are an oppressed minority goyim ;^)

>>46526631
Ironically, Boyega has a British accent but Finn has an American one.

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>>46526623
I believe so yes.

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Can Minoriteam defeat the Empire?

>>46526631
and steal Rey's thunder?

>>46526527
The latter rule seems like a dark side thing more, a gamble as it were.

Just checking I understand the force rules however:
players roll die pool equal to their force rating (unless the power they're activating is a skill test one like enhance), any light die give them a point, dark give nothing unless they're a dark side user.
Players can then spend these points on their unlocked powers and power upgrades, with 1 light side point activating the base power and any further points on unlocked upgrades such as strength and magnitude.
The half-moon symbol represents a single force die result, but not necessarily the amount of points generated by the result.


Is that right? It's very jarring compared to the relative simplicity and ease of the rest of the system.

>>46526595

How hard can that be?

>>46526668
If that female is indicative of what Bothans look like, then I can understand why they're kept around despite being cunts.

Where did the Tarsunt show up?

>>46526711
I think the half-moon indicates that a Force Point of either color can be spent there but I may be wrong.

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>>46526719
That one was at the base on D'Qar.
This one well...

>>46526719
>Where did the Tarsunt show up?
apparently there were several Tarsunts thought episode VII

>>46526762
The canon comics retcon them as not only being involved with the Rebellion but also the Old Republic and OJO.

>>46525931
BLEED AND DIE, YUB YUB

>>46526525

My preferred explanation for the lightsaber is it didn't have anything to do with Rey's parentage at all. We already know places and things can have a presence in the Force. Maybe by this point, the Skywalker lightsaber has been in the center of so much pain, conflict, and change it has more than a sizable footprint. I guess it's kind of like the cave in Empire, but on a smaller scale.

So the lightsaber and what Rey brought with her (pain at being left behind) meshed well, and that vision she had was her version of what Luke saw on Dagobah.

>>46526851
sounds reasonable (for Star Wars at least) I probably won't adopt that theory but will respect it.

Still, I have one lingering question, How did Maz get that thing in the first place?

>>46526927
It probably got sucked into an intake vent on Cloud City and was found by scavengers. Eventually, it made its way to Maz.

It's nowhere near that surprising.

>>46526927
copious sexual favours

>>46526784
>as not only being involved with the Rebellion but also the Old Republic and OJO.
they're going to be in the next EtoE/AoR/F&D supplement, aren't they?

>>46526953
but isn't Luke's severed hand what we see fall into Bespin's lower atmosphere when Luke's hanging from that antenna?

>>46526957
I think I puked a little.

>>46526495
The fucking Bothans were mentioned in Return of the Jedi and died getting the plans for the SECOND DEATH STAR.

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>>46526927

>Still, I have one lingering question, How did Maz get that thing in the first place?

I actually don't think Maz uncovered it from Cloud City or even got it from someone who did.

Why? Because Ben recognized it.

Now, unless Uncle Luke had a bunch of Polaroids of grandpa using it or he actually took time to explain what it looked like in great detail, Ben would have no idea it was Anakin's. That leads me to believe Luke himself actually recovered it and gave it to Ben, explaining it was Anakin's.

Now I don't know how Ben lost it. I don't think he threw it away because was earnestly interested in taking it from Finn.

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>>46526967
Also a retcon the Abednedo were involved in the Rebellion. I wouldn't mind a sourcebook with some new species for a change.
>>46527027
True... But were they not involved with the Rebellion yet?

>>46527037
Luke or Leia could have taken it and hidden it with Maz to keep it away from Ben when he started to turn.

>>46527014
That's a vent cover.

>>46527092
>retcon

That's not what a retcon is

>>46527098

Eh, that doesn't make a lot of sense to me. At the end of the day, it's still just a lightsaber. It's not like it does more damage or is stronger than any other lightsaber. *Maybe* they'd try to take it away because then Ben would have no lightsaber at all, but that seems like a lot of effort for something which would basically just inconvenience him.

One thing I realized though is maybe Ben recognized it through the Force. Like, even though he'd never seen it before, he just knew it was used by grandpa.

Of course, that wouldn't explain why Luke didn't recognize it when Obi-wan first gave it to him. But remember Luke didn't know about the Force then. Ben does. And so does Rey.

>>46527092
>But were they not involved with the Rebellion yet?
no, no they weren't, Bothans didn't join the rebellion until AFTER the battle of Yavin.

>>46526748
jesus fuck this is confusing me and throwing me off.

>>46527122
Retroactively altering continuity... Being all oh yeah they were there at the Battle of Endor?

>>46527157
Considering Ben's Vader fetish, I can see wanting to keep it away lest he try to get really freaky with it.

>>46527157
I think the Idea was that they hid it from Ben when he first started setting off red flags that he might be falling because giving him Vader's lightsaber might have pushed him over the edge. Didn't help in the end, but you can see the reasoning right?

I want to run a Wild West style Edge of the Empire campaign, but I haven't really watched a western in years (I do enjoy them, though).

What is my homework?

>>46527115
Oh...

>>46527236
City Slickers

>>46527177
>>46527122
You didn't see them dancing around the fire? Well too bad they were there.
>>46527165
Thank you! I wasn't sure about that... I guess this means they won't have to answer the canon Bothan question yet with Rogue One...

>>46525918

Look at Rey, then look at Shmi. Cheekbones, hair and jaw lines, coloration. Rey is a fucking Skywalker of SOME heritage. My money's on Luke and please let it be Mara Jade.

>>46527202
>>46527227

Honestly, even though it makes more sense for Ben to have used it, I like the idea it'd been missing since Empire a lot more.

Mostly because of Luke's expression at the end. He genuinely looked vexed when Rey handed him a weapon which he last saw attached the hand his own dad lopped off.

>>46527170
How so, the symbol is to indicate that either dark or light force points can be used to power the force ability, the penalties for using a force point that's against you're own morality still gives you penalties but you can still use them.

>>46527236
John Wayne movies, the Fistful of Dollars series, Firefly, Shanghai Knights.

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>>46527284

>>46527281
Here's hoping for Mara Jade

>>46525918
How about Luke AND Leia's daughter?

>>46527281
Exactly, that's why I'm not convinced she isn't,
(that means I believe her to be a Skywalker as well)

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>>46527320

>>46527236
Do what many Westerns and George Lucas did: copy Akira Kurosawa.

>>46527336
Going to go with "no" on that one.

>>46527236
Firefly.

>>4652723
In no particular order:
The Magnificent Seven
Ride The High Country
Winchester '73
Fistful of Dollars
For A Few Dollars More
The Good, The Bad And The Ugly
The Wild Bunch
Butch Cassedy And The Sundance Kid
Crossfire Trail
Quigley Down Under
Pat Garret And Billy The Kid
Appaloosa
True Grit (both)
Once Upon A Time In The West
Lonesome Dove
The Searchers
Also watch a few episodes of 'The Rifleman', you can basically just steal the plots wholesale if you're short on inspiration
Also, go to a local used book store, they should have a ton of Louis L'Amour novels for next to nothing, which are also great sources of plots

>>46527302
I think the whole chapter is just phrased badly. It's coming off as really jarring compared to the rest of the book which is relatively easy to get to grips with.

>>46527372
Why not? It would be really hot and explain why she's sensitive. Well because her parents kept the good genes in the family.

>>46527451
Goddamnit
>>46527236

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>>46527460

>>46527460
>It would be really hot
That's an EXTREMELY subjective statement.

>Well because her parents kept the good genes in the family.
you're either a hillbilly or European Nobility, aren't you?

>>46527522
I'm thinking yuro. A hillbilly wouldn't bother with talkin genes and shit, they'd just whup you

>>46526469
Master Blaster

>>46526631
Because british nazis

>>46527592
European nobility wouldn't stick their bastards in the ass end of space nowhere, they'd put them in France. Which is more or less Naboo.

>>46526719
Didnt corran or some other rogue hook up with a bothan in one of the old rogue squadron novels

>>46527659
>Didnt corran or some other rogue hook up with a bothan in one of the old rogue squadron novels
yeah, Bigg's brother I think.

>>46527629
You have a valid point

>>46527738
The main difference is that Naboo don't eat their frogs.

When building an inquisitor, I noted that they have Adversary 3, which upgrades a die to hit them in combat by 3 tiers.Does this turn 3 difficulty die into challenge die? A single upgrade would seem to be a yes, but Adversary 3 immediately turns a standard melee attack into a default 2 challenge die. That's crazy, are Inquisitors legitimately meant to be this tough or am I doing it wrong?

>>46527738
>You have a valid point
then it's decided! anon ( >>46527460 ) is a filthy hillbilly pretending to be an inbred European noble!

or just has a really disgusting incest fetish

>>46527659
Gavin Darklighter and Asyr Sei'lar.

>>46527814
>Does this turn 3 difficulty die into challenge die?
yep, the first three difficulty dice are changed to challenge dice, and if there are fewer difficulty dice than 3, then dificulty dice are added.
(so 2 difficulty dice against adversary 3 would change the difficulty to 2 challenge dice and one difficulty dice)

>are Inquisitors legitimately meant to be this tough?
Yes, yes they are, an inquisitor is kinda supposed to be the BBEG of your campaign.

>>46527880
It was a good romance ;_;

>>46527885
I feared as much, christ they're lethal.
I'd intended for the players to encounter her somewhat infrequently, dogging the players steps but I might have to lay her back a little bit if she's this dangerous in a straight up fight, let alone an unfair fight in her favour.

>>46527927
Can always make up agents that act in her name that hound the players. Or just write your own rules for her that makes her much weaker.
Just don't go too far and maker her Team Rocket.
Cobra Commander, if you must, but not Team Rocket.

>>46527927
Darkside cultists maybe?

>>46527963
I ran the first session last week. The players were intercepted after successfully procuring a stash of ancient stone tablets containing jedi lore. The Inquisitor and 4 storm troopers boarded the ship, I'd intended it to be a bit of a dramatic entrance to announce that this was the big bad guy. It ended with one of the players having a broken leg, a dead storm trooper, an ewok being set on fire in the vents and the players blowing the airlock of their ship and making a jump to hyperspace.

So I guess Team rocket sorta? The Inquisitor will be picked up from hard vacuum and restored to a somewhat workable state, perhaps as you said this is a good time to introduce her agents instead of her.

>>46526169
>Yet another Star Wars movie where the protagonist is some bitch
Pretty soon they'll retcon Luke to being a woman

>>46528017
Introduce her agents and have her come back with some cybernetic upgrades. Or go full Ravenor with her interred in a chair, unable to do anything physical but her Force abilities growing all the stronger to compensate.

>>46528017
yeah, My AoR group did something simmilar when they first encountered an Inquisitor (he was supported by 8 storm troopers and a dark trooper bodyguard) they used an automated defense platform in the hanger to knock him out and then vented the entire hangar, the Dark Trooper left to rescue his master leaving only the storm troopers to deal with.

Of Course, this wouldn't be the last they saw of him as the heavy decided to claim he was a Jedi master to the Inquisitor (he has no force powers whatsoever).

even planned it so that they would have a show-down with the Darktrooper on Taloraan but the group fell apart just before

good times.

>>46528053
I wasn't sure if the capacity for that sorta tech existed in star wars? I mean, Vaders suit apparently kept him in mild agony and it was just some metal arms and legs and breathing help, I daresay hard vacuum is a little harder to just fix?

>>46527816
What's so disgusting about incest? It's the most romantic fetish out there, with the possible exception of loli.

>no option to redeem Atris with Light Side Hot Dickings
>no option to join Atris and conquer the galaxy while giving her Dark Side Hot Dickings

>>46528204
Kill yourself.

>>46528177
Star Wars tech can work how you want it to.
Dark Side artifact or whatnot or just her pure hatred of the PCs keeping her alive, even in a state of agony.
There was that one guy from Dark Forces 2 who survived being cut in half and floated around, who was living being driven by pure hate.

>>46528177
Its star wars just say ancient sith or jedi built it

>>46528222
>no argument, just shit flinging
Sasuga normie.

>>46528254
Ahhh. Fun times

>>46528177
The force works in mysterious ways, anon.

>>46528254
>>46528284
>who survived being cut in half and floated around, who was living being driven by pure hate.

ahahahaha, what.

Fair enough, cyber inquisitor is go! I'm the guy from last thread who was making an aztec sith temple on Nar Shaddaa though it may be too soon for her to show up there. I figure they'll want to talk to Sith ghosts for a while and fight gangbangers in not-detroit.

>>46528204
>>>/alabama/

>>46528311
There is no argument. Loli and Incest fetishists should be put down.

>>46528048
>Pretty soon they'll retcon Luke to being a woman

Oh, you mean Rey?

>>46528340
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Maw_%28Dark_Jedi%29

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>>46528340
What the hell are yall doing on rodia?

>>46527927
Take a page from Vader's book in Rebels--just because your players run into the BBEG doesn't mean she's going to try and erase them on the spot.

Have her toy with them, wound them, and chase them to gauge their limits. Have her do it because she finds it entertaining. Have her do it because she has some other objective to fulfill and allowing the players to escape does that.

Update on MIND QUAD

I ran it last night in a 3 way game and it was really impressive. Despite being caught in the middle and taking modest fire for a few rounds, I only lost Kaa'to and had a lot of fun. My opponents were genuinely impressed with how effectively I could TL+F with most of my ships. However, I believe there are tweaks to be made.

>>46528177
That was deliberately done by the Emperor. Look at Grievous for the real extent to which cyborgs can go to in Star Wars.

>>46527037
That makes a lot of sense actually.

Could have been his first step to vaderboohood

>>46527236
Treasure of the Sierra madre.

Works great for adventurers trying to make it rich and who have bad attitudes.

>>46525690
Okay, so my scan of special modifications is still not in the mediafire.
Last time I post it, because it's kind of boring.
So, to anyone wanting Special Modifications, here it is!
http://www.mediafire.com/download/c2gs3sml5hd3ylw/Special+Modifications.pdf

>>46527281
My guess is Skywalker was just good enough as a teacher to realize that Skywalker's thrive when coming from bullshit endless deserts.

Or more reasonably, that jakku is such a shithole no one would look for his daughter there.

I think the FFG site is updating... New announcement soon?

>>46528204

Incest is the laziest fetish.

>Do I go outside and look for someone to have sex with? No, I'll shut myself inside and just settle for whoever's living with me already and can't turn me down because they're worried I'll kill myself.

>>46529424
Stop projecting

>>46528177
Look at dark side Starkiller from Force unleashed. THAT is a scary looking villain.

Look at original Darth maul concept art.

Really a variety of sith from comics or dark Jedi have pretty nice looks to them.

Fuck even kylo Ren had a pretty distinctive and nice look.

Look up cyborgs too?

>>46529451
Stop fucking your own genes and being a degenerate

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>>46529551
WHAT COULD GO WRONG?

>>46529379
Rest of Armada Wave 3 when?

>>46528217

Well for my playthroughs, it's usually a moot point since I'm already giving Visas Light Side Hot Dickings.

>>46528048
You don't need to retcon when you can just reboot the franchise every few years

>>46527236
Every Western Sergio Leone ever made.

What system is better WEG or Fantasy flight?

>>46530208
Both are really good. I like D6 for simplicity of mechanics, quantity and quality of material, and lack of proprietary dice, but the FFG system is pretty fun as well. Basically comes down to if you have a bunch of D6s lying around, in my opinion.

>>46529424

More like
>you love this person so much that you don't care if society judges you for it
Hell, even biology couldn't get in between the feelings.

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How are E-Wings? I want to run Corran but I'm worried about loading him up too heavy.

>>46530310
>Love

>>46530310
Thanks for the giggle, Tasfag

>>46530969
That's a foreign concept to you? No wonder you don't appreciate incest.

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>>46525996
What's wrong with Rosh?

>>46531044
Dubs confirms it. Rosh a best.

>>46530785
I haven't kept up the last 8 months, but the all E-wing pilots are significantly overcosted. They're not TIE advanced bad as they're a solid ship in their own right, just very expensive.

You can build Corran with Expose, R2-F2 and Experimental Interface and fuck people up.

Is there a spreadsheet out there that I can filter out FFG Ships by things like crew, cargo, cost, hard points, etc?

>>46529347
>Or more reasonably, that jakku is such a shithole no one would look for his daughter there.
well, that strategy has worked in the past.

>>46531044
He's a major fuckup. Seriously, he fell to the Dark Side for no good reason.

>>46529347
Ah, the Frank Herbert school!

>>46531224
K E K

>>46529895
>not having a harem
Visas and the handmaiden literally agree to share you, anon

>>46531236
How upset would you estimate yourself to be if Kylo Ren ends up saying he turned to the dark side because he felt like his master was holding him back?

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>>46530310
>biology couldn't get in between the feelings
>implying incest doesn't crop up after long periods of isolation breaking down your mind and convincing you that a relative is the only receptive mate available given the complete lack of alternatives in your nonexistant social circle

I want the OreImo fanbase to shuffle off this mortal coil in single file

>>46531288
>S-Supreme Leader Snoke told me I was destined for greater accomplishments than "learning"!

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I could swear there's something wrong with these AT-AT's.

>>46531403
CGI could be unfinished

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Poe Dameron and some T-70 buddies: could they make a decent 100 point list (3 of them), or would I just be able to include him and find some cheaper ships to include him with?

I also like Ello Asty, but he doesn't seem to fit with Poe or other T-70s.

>>46531403
Maybe it's the angle, but something about the legs look wrong. Like they're a bit too long and not quite far enough apart from each other.

>>46531419
You can do some work with a trio of T-70's. Played against a fat Ghost earlier today with a squad of X-Wings and shot it back to hell. They are some excellent dogfighters.

>>46531403
I think it's the stripes.

>>46530310
No, that's not how it works, not in real life anyway.
How do I know this?
because of a simple bit of natural conditioning found in humans, namely, we are pre-programed not to find people we grew up with (i.e. lived with since prepubescence) sexually attractive. It's why, for normal people, they don't see their relatives that way and don't have anything resembling those kinds of feelings for them. Or in simpler terms why you don't think your sister is hot even if everyone else keeps suggesting the contrary. Think of it as a biological fail-safe to ensure genetic diversity. For incest to occur, someone in the relationship has to be so emotionally fucked-up that those biological fail-safes no longer work. Which, for the rest of us, makes this whole display seem as equally disconcerting as it is unnatural; because it is all those things.

>>46531403
>that center of gravity
>those ultra-thin legs
I really hope >>46531418 is right.

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>>46531403
Looks like a mix between the ESB and Rebel AT-ATs

>>46531403
1. CG isn't finished. It's most obvious around the feet, but they look like final detail work and proper lighting haven't been 100% worked out.

2. They aren't really acting right. The "Main" one is the only one really attacking the heroes. Only the far right one also fires shots and it doesn't even come close.

3. The heroes don't really look like they're reacting to getting shot at by the AT-AT's. They're running like they're being shot by a bunch of smaller lasers, not a few big ones.

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>>46531403
The body section is not quite the same as the ones from ESB. Or Rebels, for that matter.

Could be the missing link between the two models.

>>46531255
>>46531255
Well, Luke was dumped on Tatooine and for the first 18 years of his life no one figured out he was there, could've lived there until the end of his days having never been discovered by the Emperor or Vader had not R2-D2 and C3PO not stumbled onto Owen's doorstep.

So I'd call that a successful plan.

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>>46531403
>>46531508
>>46531553
Dundundun.

>>46531266

Atris comes across as someone who ain't exactly the sharing type.

>>46531403
I think the "head" section looks a bit off...

like it has a snout or something.

>>46531339
>Oreimo
More like koi kaze.

>>46531613
At least Luke was left with his father's in-laws.

>>46531044
His lips don't move properly. He's clearly a Cylon.

>>46531649
let's just make a blanket statement of "ANY work that romanticizes incest needs to fucking stop!"

Think that just about covers it?

>>46531487

That's exactly why it's so romantic. If it was normal, it wouldn't be special, and there wouldn't be societal pressure to keep the people apart.

Prince marrying a commoner woman is like the textbook example of what's romantic. The prince didn't care about what the kig thought, he loved her so much that none of it mattered.

So instead of a prince and a commoner we have siblings, and instead of a king we have the society and biology.

>>46531707

Do you want a medal for your close-mindedness or what?

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>>46531649
>office worker fresh off a breakup, follows crying high schooler around until she invites him on a date
yo

>finds out about their familial relationship the same day they meet but "finds himself unable to rid himself of the attraction that he felt at their first meeting" because they were raised separately
yoooooooooo

>27 / 15 years old
YAMEROOOOOOOOOOO

>>46531707
I'm with this guy. I get the fictional allure of a broken taboo, but holy shit some taboos have concrete reasons for existing.

>>46531860
you're a troll aren't you...
if so 11/10.

>>46531641
Atris only really appeals to someone who needs their MILF. If you don't care so much about that demographic, having the naive but quick-learning Brianna and the desperate-for-love-and-redemption Visas works fine. I wouldn't mind adding Mira's moxy to the mix, but it's not quite as necessary.

>>46531885
Cute argument, did you think of it yourself?

Can't we just talk about Star Wars?

I'm trying to figure out a crew roster for an imperial Gozanti for a sea patrol style campaign. Does anyone know what shift roster patrol boats and subs use? I can't find out if uts a three shift rotation or what.

>>46532016
Well, it comes from me honestly believing that no real person could possibly be this fucked-in-the-head.

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Why are we discussing a Poe's incest fetish when there's already an /aco/ lewd Star Wars general.

>>46532123
Oh, right...

Um, Here's a link that might help:

http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/crew.php

Let me know if the link helps.

>>46532124
Do you even know where you are?

>>46532232
>Do you even know where you are?
Right, internet, I forgot...

I've been busy all day until now and literally what the fuck.

>>46532570
Your thoughts on the RO teaser?

>>46532658
It looks neat I guess. I dunno, I really don't see many movies and I'm kinda Disney'd out after so many Marvel ones.

>>46531403
I was wondering why they were running right at the AT-ATs in that scene...

>>46532702
Nucanon forgetting that AT-AT's were originally supposed to be long range assault platforms. Happened in Rebels too.

>>46532668
This is why youre entire order died yoda. You were too busy dicking around

>>46532764
Or remembering they're long-range platforms and running in close to get out of the firing arc of the head cannons and too close to a friendly target for the other Imps to shoot at. They hope.

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Is there any record of the empire using female soldiers before this point, assuming, of course, they can meet the height requirements?

>>46532806
Yeah they do. Actual ladies were dressed as troopers in TFA, so you'd never know.

>>46532806
Yep.

Not in NuCanon though.

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>>46532806
Have we forgotten best girl already?

But yes, Imps did use female combat personnel, they just weren't as common/in full body armor. Daala (officer corps, but still counts), Shira Brie (before she got turned into an insane cyborg), Juno Eclipse just to name a few.

>>46532668
You know, one of the old Charms of Yoda was that he was this annoying little troll so you'd never peg him as a jedi master. I am sad that in the prequels they over-emphasized his "wise jedi master" traits and completely dropped his "annoying and muppet-like" quirks.

Would've made for some interesting conversations.

>Obiwan: Anakin, We need to go to master Yoda for guidance
>Anakin: Right... He was the little green guy right?
>Obiwan: Anakin this is serious he is a powerful and wise Jedi Master.
>Anakin: Wise and powerful, got it.
>Obiwan: he has centuries of experience with the force and you need to show him the utmost respect!
>Anakin: I got it.
>Obiwan: That means not speaking out of turn, don't raise your voice, keeping your emotions in check-
>Anakin: I GOT IT!!!
>Obiwan: One more thing...
>Anakin: WHAT!?!
>Obiwan: Don't eat anything he offers you...
>Anakin: Uh... okay?

>>46532570
You of all people should really not be surprised by other people's fetishes

How would you elegan/tg/entlemen stat Beast Riders of Onderon in FFG? We going all Che Guevara on The empire in GCW Onderon

>>46532672
>Spends all day talking about Star Wars/reading and writing Star Wars Fanfiction
>One Star Wars movie a year is too much

C'mon Questy be at least tentatively interested

>>46527443
>goddammit Yoda, you're walking because of that one.

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Question I was pondering today after playing Rogue Squadron-how the FUCK did the rebellion manage to inflict such massive damage on the Imperial fleet during the Battle of Endor? From everything we saw in the movie, they had a laughably small number of capital ships(two of which were destroyed by the Death Star) and their fighters were getting destroyed before they closed in with the star destroyers. But not only did they manage to outright destroy several ISDs, the puny rebel fleet managed to weaken the Executor's shields enough to make the bridge generators vulnerable to fighters!

I know Sheev's battle meditation got cut out after his death, but how the fuck did the fleet even survive before that happened?

>>46533966
Couple things. One, a lot of the GR-75s you saw at Endor were basically kamikazes loaded full of high explosives and run straight into Star Destroyers. The other is that, though they lost a lot of them, the Rebellion's fighters are still really good at taking down cap ships, especially Y and B-wings. Proton torpedoes are downright devastating in the right place.

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>>46533966
B-Wings are a hell of a drug. A shame they were too thin and complicated to bluescreen properly

Also, I was always under the impression that the Rebel Fleet wasn't puny, it just took a long ass time to pool resources from Yavin to Endor and come up with a plan.

>>46533966

I imagine that the rebels were bringing in ships from all over, and they probably didn't get their arrival times properly synched up. Reinforcements kept coming throughout the battle. Combine that with a too-tight formation of imperial ships trying to dodge city-sized debris from a blowed-up death star and you get a recipe for collisions and panic.

>>46534092
>>46534061
Oh yeah, I've heard about the fire ship transports. I remember there was one of those in Rogue Squadron III during the level where you take out the prototype SSD. Come to think of it, that level was like, exactly like the Endor plan.

Also, in the film there really aren't many ships, and it seems inconsistent. We see two Mon Calamari ships warp in from hyperspace, two get blown up(apparently there was an offscreen third cruiser), and then they go in to fight the star destroyers.

>>46534166
I was thinking that too actually. Like rebel squadrons warping in after the core alliance fleet, seeing everything went to shit, and joining the action anyway. It would make sense that they'd stagger their arrival, and that some elements would be late.

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>>46534168
I'd chalk up the inconsistencies in fleet size up to the complexity of the miniatures effects. Yavin was fairly small scale and Hoth was even smaller (though with stop motion walkers). Compared to them, Endor had a hell of a lot more going on, relatively speaking.

>>46531707
What about step-siblings who did not grow up together?

>>46533966
Eventually the imps just bailed. The flagship was gone, the Death Star was gone, their command system was fucked as a result.

The rebels were getting their shit kicked in.

Watch admiral Ackbar closely after the executor, and how he was like "nigga wat" when Lando suggested moving closer.

The imps lost because they panicked and bailed.

When in doubt, fall back and regroup.

>>46532806
Wasn't one of Mara's usual covers that of an imp officer?

>>46534332
Although it WAS ridiculously impressive what they managed to pull off given those limitations.

Can't wait to see massive fleet battles in VIII and IX.

>>46534399
......well its nice to see hope is still alive and well in this world

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>>46532806

From A New Dawn.

>>46534437
Oh yeah, I forgot I was on 4chan. Sorry for liking TFA and expecting the ST to only improve from here.

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>>46534092
>B-Wings are a hell of a drug

Maybe they got the Multi-cannon weapon working. Imagine a squad of B-Wings using these on an ISD in a strafing run, just tearing huge chunks out of it.

>>46532668
This is probably the closest any portrayal of Yoda has come to who he was in Empire.

>>46534399
Poe popping a chubby when he hijacked a TIE/sf was one of the best things in that movie, so yeah, hopefully massive space battles are in our future.

>>46534465
Im agreeing with you. It would be nice i just dont expect it to happen. Disnets going for profit. Big space battles havent been shown to draw audiences in( did enders game do any good?) so i dont see them green lighting anything like that at least until another franchise or movie about big friggin space battles becomes a blockbuster

>>46534166
>>46534168
>>46534193
I think the staggered arrivals is the only thing that makes sense, as there are scenes later in the battle (particularly during the attack on the Executor) where you can clearly see three or four Mon Cal cruisers in the background- after the Death Star destroyed two.

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>>46532806
>She's a pilot

Goddamn it, she really is going to be Caucasian Jan Ors, isn't she?

>>46534773

Everyone is a pilot in Star Wars films, except for Finn

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>>46533966
The Rebel Fleet wasn't that small.
In Jedi, when Han and Leia were breaking into the shield control center, there's this screen there showing the Rebel fleet on its way. Each of those little blips is a ship.
Granted, a much smaller and weaker ship than the Star Destroyers, but the Rebs also had more fighters that could penetrate capital ship shields.

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>>46534936
Of course, the Imperial fleet was nothing to scoff at. I count 34 Star Destroyers in this shot, not including the Executor.

>>46534626
Da fuck? Star Wars is THE fucking franchise to do huge space battles with.
The prequels were a failure for many reasons, but the huge space battle at the beginning of Episode III was not one of them. At least not the fact that it was a large space battle.
Also, Ender's Game failed because it was a mediocre movie that was afraid to even use the term "Buggers" and overall, a piss-poor adaptation of the book.

>>46534992
One thing that occurs to me is that the fleet was nothing but ISDs, with no smaller escort craft that might have more point defense weapons, which probably let fighters do more damage.

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>>46535071
>the Empire doesn't consider a small, one-man fighter to be any threat
>it causes their downfall
>twice
FUCKING POTTERY!

>>46533966
Really good rolls.

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>>46534504
>Needing a superlaser to kill an ISD
Git gud.

>>46526688
>not a single alien
>minoriteam

I'm sad.

>>46526660
Ah, someone corrected him first.

>>46535166
>Ion cannon+Enchanced lasers+enhanced torpedos
>star destroyer goes down in less than a minute
>Entire squadrons of these monsters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8Em_zQ4_o4

Yeah, vid related probs happened.

Hey XWW, I'm writing a story about a resistance squadron piloting stealthy A-Wings against a Resurgence class star destroyer. Do A-Wings carry proton torpedoes normally?

>>46535218
Unless future nucanon works say so, no. A-wings are missile-only in both continuities.

>>46535218
>Do A-Wings carry proton torpedoes normally?
No, they only carried concussion missiles.

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>>46535071
>One thing that occurs to me is that the fleet was nothing but ISDs, with no smaller escort craft that might have more point defense weapons, which probably let fighters do more damage.
You're right. They should have spent the points for a few Raiders.

>>46533569
Look, what I do or do not enjoy for me time is not the topic of discussion, I'm just commenting on how that discussion got VERY out of hand.
>>46533661
I'll probably go see it, and I'd bet good money it'll be decent, but I just.... I dunno. I'm feeling burnt out on a lot of things. Maybe it's college. Haven't really been keeping up with Rebels either.

>>46535218
They can be fitted wuth them. Itd be a good chance for your protag to exchange banter with a bitching ground crew

>>46535236
>>46535247
K, concussion missile spam it is.

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>>46527281
>>46527324
Well if it is I have some bad news for you...

>>46535280
Even then, weren't they only limited to two torpedoes in external launchers?

>>46534332
I need more Dugs in my life.

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>>46535307

>>46526688
... is that Jean Reno?

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IT'S TIME
POST YOUR FAVORITE FIGHTER

>>46535402
That chick in the middle? Yeah.

>>46535349
>I need more Dugs in my life.
Yet another species that pops up once and is completely forgotten about

Anyone know the name of the theme that plays when Snowspeeders looking for Han and Luke? It is also the Ord Mantell level BGM in Shadows of the Empire?

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>>46535408
Space BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTT is best BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTT

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>>46525690
Actresses who should have played the Jan Ors analogue in Rogue One go.

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>>46535501

>>46529340
I just wanted to say thanks

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>>46535408

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>>46535501
>>46535516

>>46535516
>casting a 52 year old to play an action lead
Whew lad, you can only do that if your lead is a man don't you know?

>>46535485
>All those turrets
>still no tail gunner

So were these things for launching the fire works after the rebs won, or what?

Pretty sure a couple of Y wings do the job better, cheaper and without sacrificing 3 extra crewmen.

>>46535485
Not really a fighter, and also not really BRRRT. More like an B-25 honestly or a Frogfoot in terms of ugliness.

>>46532806
I think you can clearly hear female voices on some stormtroopers in The Force Awakens.

>>46535309
A good pilot only needs two

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>>46535408
>Oh, he's one of *them*

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>>46535563
Infantry a shit. A shiiiiit.

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>>46535408
So many to choose from, but I'll stick with the poor man's A-Wing.

They were a blast in XW Alliance's simulator

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>>46535612
A great pilot doesn't need any

>>46535419
The trouble with them is that they are challenging for animators. Despite having physically humanoid shape, they move in ways that are fucking bonkers to animate convincingly. And there's nothing that really moves like them in nature to be used as a reference. You could make a human fake it, or maybe study how legless beggers push themselves on a dolly or skateboard, but that's about as much reference as you get.

I'd love to fucking see one wielding a lightsaber. It's got the potential to be gorgeous and unique, but I don't think most animators can even comprehend how to make one move without resorting to shit-lame Yoda flips or switching to a more conventional "upper/locomotive limb" grip. That's why the Rebels show just had them using lame-ass single-motion spear jabs and ground stabs.

Monty Oum, why did you have to die so young?

>>46535542
This ship is amazing, I wish people respected the power levels more.
-Faster than an A wing
-Turns better than a Interceptor
-More shielding than a corvette
-Fire power to make a bomber group blush

It really is too bad you can buy a ISD for the price of a squadron.

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>>46535408

>>46531403
That damn planet was shot in my home country and I can't take it seriously. Looks like AT-ATs exist on a goddamn weekend trip for me.

>>46535617
Not a lot of heavy fighters in GCW era.

Not sure if to be sad or impressed that they retired a obviously stupid niche.

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>>46535408
This thing is fucking hot.

>>46535695
I forget, could ARCs even go to hyperspace?

>>46535678
If you're a Kiwi this is a big problem when watching all the fantasy stuff filmed here. It's like "hey that's my backyard".

>>46535660
People do. It was generally just toned down after TIE Fighter so it wasn't game-breakingly good. Authors eventually settled into writing is as merely an amazing, overpriced space superiority craft with a penchant for jousting.

>Still had amazing firepower
>Average/above average shielding
>Slightly worse turn radius than a T-65

>>46535574
>slow
>heavily armed with lots of hard points
>can be upgraded with slug throwers
how is it not a BRRRT?

>>46535709
all the orcs must drive down the property prices

>>46535708
aye. they were one of the only fighters that could back then

>>46535645
>even in its finest moment the a wing still gets blown to kriff

Damn you Rebels

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>>46535734
The A-10 is a single-man attacker and CAS platform, not a large, multi-person bomber with turrets. A space A-10 would be more like a Y-wing whose lasers have been replaced by a rotary auto-HLC.

>>46535708
>Aggressive Recon
>can't hyperspace
Only one, you pick.

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>>46535408
This is becoming my Ace Custom in a d6 game. It starts as a poor-man's X-Wing (only a couple inferior stats), but it's REALLY growing on me, especially with a few upgrades.

>>46535778
>Aggressive Recon
Well it could be aggressive recon by Clone Wars standards like local planets or something
I just wasn't sure because a lot of fighters couldn't hyperspace back in the clone wars days

>>46535826
Clone Wars standards were very big, anon

>>46535777
>a Y-wing whose lasers have been replaced by a rotary auto-HLC.
I want one.

>>46535729
Before or after accounting for NuCanon?

Because NuCanon has T-65's as shit turn fighters and TIEs universally fast and dodgy as fuck and Imperial lasers hit much harder.
This makes their losses even more confounding because power, speed and manuverability spanks the shit out of durability 99 times out of 100

>>46530785
Corran with Push the limit, Fire control system, R2-D2 and Engine upgrade made it to the finals of world 2015.

He becomes a double tap god, but dies quick to focused fire

>>46535854
TIE Defenders' nucanon capabilities aren't known yet.

>shit turn fighters
Less "shit" and more "okay." The TIE series was on the upper end of the galactic maneuverability scale, not the average.

>Imperial lasers hit much harder
I call bullshit. In the OT, TIEs required multiple hits to kill Rebel craft while at Yavin, Wedge and Luke both splashed TIEs with one or two individual laser bolts.

>muh maneuverability
Torps, astromechs, more guns per capita, and smart flying. If you're turn-fighting a TIE without an A-wing, you don't deserve your wings.

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>>46535408

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>>46535408

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Are B-Wings ass-slow in anything outside of Armada? They never struck me as "literally the slowest squadrons that exist" kind of material.

>>46535734
It has no capability to BRRRT. Also >>46535777 this.

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>>46535408

>>46534853

Being incapable of flying ships makes it really difficult to be a main character in a story which revolves around flying ships.

Leia was also not a pilot (in the movies, I don't give a shit about EU, nucanon or not). But like Finn she hung out with pilots so it worked out

>>46536008
I fucking love it.

>>46536009
I think it's not that there's particularly slow, but they're a bitch and a half to maneuver due to their weird set up

>>46535734
It isn't a ship built around one purpose, it's a glorified torpedo boat.

If you striped all of it's countermeasures, reduced it's crew to about one to two pilots, put all of that extra energy and space saved into promoting it's primary weapon system.Then making it a dedicated ground support aircraft.
Then you have BRRRT.

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>>46536009
Here's the starship comparison chart used by Industrial Light & Magic for RotJ production.

>>46536090
Oh, so yes. Yes they are.

And now I know, knowing is half the battle, all that jazz.

And I immediately just feel -better- about Armada's B-Wings. Not that it kept me from using them at all.

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>>46535408

>>46534522

There were hints of this in TCW; making the younglings believe they'd be trapped in the ice cave if they didn't return before sundown, or recruiting Anakin to bust him out of the hospital so he could go on a vision quest.

>>46536118
Pity they're such fodder for TIEs in that game. Especially Interceptors.
Seriously, SWARMed Counter shots are fucking broken.

>>46536177
>Seriously, SWARMed Counter shots are fucking broken.
I only play super-casually (nearest actual Armada store is at least an hour away), but:

That can't be a thing, can it? That's dumb.

>>46536216
It's still considered an attack and thus, covered by SWARN rules, meaning they can reroll one of the dice if another SWARM squad is engaging.

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>>46536216
I also tend to run Dengar hanging around my Interceptors for extra cheese factor.

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>>46535937
>Torps, astromechs, more guns per capita, and smart flying.

These aren't atmospheric craft, things that provide advantages against turn fighters: like climb speed, stall speed and operational ceilings don't exist. So energy fighting doesn't exist and flight speed is the absolute measure of whether you get the drop on your opponent or not.

Astromechs and turrets exist because targeting systems in things like missile systems and torps are worthless thanks to ECM (which is why they dogfight in the first place).
You can also ask any WW2 pilot how well their tail gunners worked to stave off enemy fighter craft. It's less of a deterrence and more of a psychological comfort the 18 men aboard have that it's not completely chance they burn to death in a fiery wreck.

> In the OT, TIEs required multiple hits to kill Rebel craft while at Yavin

I don't remember that at all, I remember 3 fighters tearing through a whole battle group because they can't break formation and still make it to the target. One to two volleys and they go up just as readily as soon as they're hit.

>>46536240
>t's still considered an attack and thus, covered by SWARN rules, meaning they can reroll one of the dice if another SWARM squad is engaging.
It makes total sense, and I don't know why I never thought of it working that way (conceptually it obviously should - balance wise, yeah, it's just bonkers), but I'm kind of glad I never ran it that way.

>I also tend to run Dengar hanging around my Interceptors for extra cheese factor.
Of course.

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>>46536304
>>46536240
>>46536216
Though my group and I still debate whether or not Howlrunner's bonus adds to Counter rolls.
In which case, her + Dengar would give an Interceptor 4 Counter dice.
Because Dengar is worded specifically for Counter rolls and Howlrunner isn't I don't think this is the case.

>>46536322
What are its stats, negro. D6 please.

>>46536090
>Slower than the Y-Wing

Aren't Y-Wings supposed to be slow as fuck?

At least according to the X-wing Novels.

>>46536523
They're supposed to have atrocious maneuverability. Something can go fast in a straight line and still suck ass at turning.

>>46536344
Counter attacks count as a type of attack, so it does work.

Imp fighters have retarded synergy in armada, it's almost laughable.

>>46536322
>no rotating cockpit
what is even the point?

>>46536523
Not all of the lore is consistent. But the game that my group plays, d6, stats them as one speed unit slower than an X-Wing from the same era. So, you know, they're a bit slower mechanically. I wouldn't be surprised if the Rogue jockies were just complaining because that's what soldiers do.

>>46536337
>targeting systems in things like missile systems and torps are worthless thanks to ECM
BVR is worthless. WVR ordnance targeting works just fine, as we see numerous times in the flight sims and novels. Astromechs are more than cute missile guidance systems, too. They provide repairs, computer assistance, math calculations, astrogation, flight assistance, and datalinks, as well as an extra pair of optics. They bring plenty of utility to a fight.

The flight sims and novels also show lots of TIEs going down to torps and missiles. No matter how good your ECM is, if a squadron of Rebel fighters lets off an alpha strike, some of your guys will go down. Xs, Ys, and Bs also carry more guns per capita than the TIE/LN. Rebel craft also have the minor advantage of superior cockpit and canopy design. With some smart maneuvering and baiting, Rebel craft are perfectly capable of standing up to TIEs.

>multiple hits
Vader held down the trigger. You can clearly see multiple twin-linked shots hitting the trench runners before they go down. TIEs still have a stupidly fast rate of fire, but their individual lasers aren't explicitly more powerful than the Rebels'.

>tail gunners
How many of those guys had computer assistance, an astromech, and unlimited ammo?

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>>46536559
What's the point of the rotating cockpit, anyways? It doesn't seem to have an apparent use.

>>46536580
>superior cockpit and canopy design
That always bothered me, with how bad some of these canopies are. My group and I have personally headcannoned a degree of modern HUD in the helmets that have enemies painted so you can still see them through say, your floor, with a readout on quick and necessary things like distance.

It's just one little way we try to bring a degree of sense to something that tweaks our autism.

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>>46536541
>Counter attacks count as a type of attack, so it does work.
Oh my.
Howlrunner is going to be coming with my squadrons from now on.
>Imp fighters have retarded synergy in armada, it's almost laughable.
Yes it is. Especially running Soontir Fel here alongside TIE Advanced's with their Escort.

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>>46536603
There's most likely a lot of HUD stuff going on that we don't see, yeah. X-Wing/TIE Fighter/XWA threw in HUD elements like two sensor screens that covered your twelve and your six, for instance.

Still, I don't think any amount of HUD could save the TIE Predator. No fucking clue how anybody thought the stunner shades viewport was a good idea.

>>46536639
When it comes to shit like that I personally prefer to interpret it in a sort of Gundam-esque "there are screens on your front, left, above, right, and rear that give you a pretty good view."

Combine that with the HUD things that surely must be there, and I imagine it's a decent enough way of protecting while giving view. I mean, not having a propery canopy means that if your shit gets ionized, you're pretty much blind unless your HUD is still fine and your cams didn't get hit.

>>46536700
not having a proper canopy, rather. Fucking hell, it's late.

>>46536580
All ordinance in Star Wars is fire by sight, most "guided" systems are just precision fired and calculated via targeting computer.

To say that you can't get hit by them is retarded, however they have very minimal use against smaller, faster targets like fighters. Anything that can change trajectory very quickly is like treading a needle, 100 m away, with a nail gun.

And, yes astromechs are great... they take a load off of the pilot but aren't much different than a crewmate or co pilot to divide workload.
On board repairs are great too but, again, I don't see them coming up all that often because damage should probably either be too severe for them to assist or too trivial to matter 99% of the time.

>>46536580
>BVR is worthless
I lost my shit when I found out that d6 has droid brain-guided conc missile alternates that effectively brought back BVR at an extreme cost to the purchaser.

>>46534332
...Is that B-Wing pilot a fucking Miraluka???

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>>46536907
>very minimal use against smaller, faster targets like fighters
Except that's proven wrong by the novels and flight sims. Concussion missiles work just fine against TIEs, as do torpedoes. Hell, the Redemption Run is even rendered trivial by knowing which TIEs to torp and when. In Chapter 9 of Wraith Squadron, five of the Wraiths fire torpedoes at an incoming formation of Interceptors and splash four of them with that volley. Torpedoes are also responsible for a fuckton of starfighter kills in the Rogue Squadron books and comics. And before you underestimate the maneuverability of torpedoes, look back at Yavin. It wasn't just Luke's Force hax. Red Leader's shot was a very near miss. The Rogue Squadron games' guided missiles basically guaranteed kills, too.

>astromechs
Again, play the flight sims. Astromechs are a godsend. In longer missions, it's a big help since most of your deaths and score resets will be caused by a buildup of damaged subsystems (broken shield readout, broken eject system, broken power readout, etc.). An astromech can often get those back in working condition in seconds. Astromech datalinks are also great for setting up torpedo shots from wingmen.