Jumpchain CYOA Thread #765: All according to Plan Edition

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Weekly reminder. Winners do use drugs.

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To repeat a question that got buried last thread, what would Fate/Extra’s Appearance Customization do Post-Jump?

>>46374070
>Winners do use magic.
FTFY

So I'm fairly certain I missed a thing about this, but is the Libriomancer jump kosher?

Or should I just skip over it?

>>46374256
Take it.

>>46374263
Tally ho then.

>>46374256
It's on the Drive, so it's fair game. After all the fixed it's become pretty reasonable as well. Not perfect, but what is?

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>>46374113
Of course they do Anon, I’m all about the magic. The chain I am on makes Nagi, Rand, Nanoha, Merlin, all of them look like droopy-eyed armless children.

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>>46374299
>DDS
>Don't like drop-in
>Drop-in has a singing perk when one of my main themes is song

Does someone have an update list of jumps? The ones on the drive are lagging behind after all the new ones.

>>46374336
>Left that quote in
Fuck it I don't care no mo.

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So here's another update to the Warframe WIP: http://pastebin.com/Luuwdxf4

-Corpus, Infested, and Tenno perks completed
-Cybernetic Knowledge fleshed out
-New perk: 'Stalking The Light'
-Capstone Booster effects fleshed out

If there's any critique or balance issues, let me know please.

>>46374336
What's wrong with Drop-In, Anon? Why do you weep?

>>46374042
aka FUCKING ARCTURUS! I'LL SHOW YOU HOW TO REALLY ERASE SOMETHING OUT OF REALITY, YOU FLATIRON DICK! IMMUNE TO EVERYTHING?! ASK BENETNASCH ABOUT HOW THAT WORKED OUT FOR HIM! OH WAIT! THAT SPERMHEAD IS DEAD! IT'S SO DEAD WE RESET THE REALITY TWICE SINCE! OH EVEN BETTER, ASK SPICA HOW ADAPTING TO MY SHIT WORKED OUT FOR IT! OH WAIT, I PUSHED ITS SHIT IN AS WELL! IN ONE TURN, IT CRUMBLED SO QUICKLY, I HAD TIME FOR A SPIRITUAL QUICKIE WITH A FUJOSHI SEA GODDESS THAT POSSESSED ME! YOU AIN'T SHIT!

And to think, that's just Day 3. I love Devil Survivor.

>>46374336
Why don't you like it?

>>46374401
>>46374411
I like new memories and history. I feel that drop-in misses some of the appeal of jumping for me.

>>46374336
Do you knot like Drop In options in general, or that specific Drop In? Because if it's Drop Ins in general, DS Anon has hinted that you're only technically a Drop In, and you do have a history in that world that will be expanded on in part 2 when you get out of the Junkyard. Something like your background having been a Drop In in the sense that they appeared out of nowhere one day, but things having happened between then and when the jump starts. You just don't have any memories because no one in Digital Devil Saga has any memories of outside the Junkyard. At first, anyway.

>>46374400
Fuck you very much now I'm gonna have to sell my firstborn for cp. Do you take souls or tears? Perhaps a cashiers check?

>>46374400
RUINED MUH BUILD

>>46374417
Oh, but Anon, didn't you read the description? About the memories? About the fact that Angel wants both Sera AND you? After all. you are, like Sera, a Drop-in to the SETTING, which is the Junkyard. And there's a reason why Angel wants her now TWO children back. Trust me, you have a history. But if I told you, the spoilers would be beyond your comprehension.

>>46374466
Putting the fear into her that someone might say this isn't funny, even if you think it is.

>>46374336
>>46374417
Just buy it anyway. I know just how you can get an extra 800 CP, so it’s totally affordable.

>>46374400
I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS BUT YOURE A FUCKING NERF HERDER

No, seriously - Nerf jump ETA?

>>46374492
This. I WANT TO UNLEASH NERFNAUTUS, DAMN IT.

>>46374400
>http://pastebin.com/Luuwdxf4
I don't know what you have in mind for the items section.

But please don't gut me anymore than you need to. Please make my bootiful Jat Kittag cheap.

>>46374400
Simply beautiful. Pain of CP taxation shall be everlasting.

>>46374474
Ara, ara. It seems our resident transgender abomination got a bit more frisky?~

>>46374527
Intersex, not transgender. She's both.

>>46374549
So a futa?

>>46374527
I'll say. And now you're remembering just HOW Sera ended up in the Junkyard. And realizing that you were with her in the Drop-In path...

>>46374570
Gay.

>>46374570
She is, yes. I don't remember if they explain why she is, but thematically it's the whole dualism shit that sometimes pops up in Hinduism.

>>46374570
Yes. actually. She's both Sera's(and yours, if you take Drop-in)mother and father.

>>46374592
Shouldn't that result in a clone?

>>46374507
>using the shit jet hammer

Nigga, Bo Supremacy.

>>46374598
Well, she DID have a lover who died...she could have taken his. Ugh, that just made me shudder.

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>>46374070
Wrong.

I fucking love Gift of the Twilight Imperium and Empty Night so much holy shit.

>>46374570
Maybe. I mean, we don't have details, there are a bunch of different ways intersexuality can manifest. But given that both halves are reproductively viable (she's both Sera's mother and father. HYPER INCEST), yeah, probably.

>>46374598
Not necessarily. Chromosomal migration during gamete formation means that you can recombine two gametes from the same person and not get the exact same genetic pattern. Same reason why two children from the same couple aren't genetically identical.

>>46374609
Let me know when you can wield a real weapon instead of your stick, grampa.

>>46374625
I'm guessing this Angel ladyguy isn't too nice a person.

>>46374549
Right, my apologies. That particular part of biology science always confused me.

>>46374574
>Sera's escape shenanigans
>mfw took Drop-In
Shite. That's a problem.

Anyway, a query. Will DDS 2 have Sera as a companion reward for something? I am having mild CP troubles...

>>46374581
>dualism shit that sometimes pops up in Hinduism
>Sometimes
I have bad news for you, anon...

>>46374598
No.
Well, yes, but really no.
People who are genuinely intersex (rather than tumblr-tier "I just feel like both a dude and a chick sometimes") are generally infertile. And if they are, they're capable of one action or the other, but not both. Ergo, they can't knock themselves up

>>46374651
>I have bad news for you, anon...
I don't get your point, Annette. Dualism is a popular theme in Hinduism, but it only sometimes manifests in two gods (usually a couple) fusing together to form a combined hermaphroditic entity.

>>46374640
She's...alright, I guess. Starts off appearing to be a villain, later turns out to have had some good reasons for what she did, ultimately you reconcile with her ghost in the sun (long story) and she gives you the strongest attack in the game so it's all good.

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>>46374635

>>46374673
Such as Ardhanarishvara, the final upgraded Atma Avatar you get after Serf and Sera combine into Seraph.

>>46374638
Whippersnapper I have broken more Corpus heads with this 'stick' than you've had loaves of bread. Can your meat tenderizer say the same.

>>46374640
She USED to be. After God/Brahman destroyed the earth and started turning people to stone due to mankind, specifically the true Serph, finally crossing the Moral Event Horizon by traumatizing Sera(who was DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO HIM) and her lover became sick. He was murdered by frightened people, and so she cursed God, the world, and humanity, and sought to create a world of eternal bloodshed and suffering in order to take revenge. She gets redeemed after talking and killing/being killed by Gale, her lover's reincarnation. And then, well, see here>>46374676

>>46374673
Eh, never you mind me. Just remembering that there is a whole lotta dual themes in Hindu, even beyond simple fusion shenanigans. No particular point.

>>46374697
See, THAT'S why I'm confused most of the time.

...Wait, Australian male? Bwah?

>>46374507
>Jat Kittag
Brother! Tell me you use palatine skin?

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Heya everyone. Been away for a few days getting RL stuff done. (Job Interviews suuuuuck!). Hope I haven't missed too much.

>>46374070
I can't argue that combat stims are necessary in some situations, yes. Magic combat stims are something special though. Designing Metamagic Feats in a handy, injectable stim package was an interesting experiment.

>>46374400
It looks pretty good so far. No real critiques at the moment. Keep on trucking.

>>46374735
It's upside down.

>>46374697
>Attack Helicopter
Best gender.

>>46374771
Not the point, anon.

...Actually, I don't even want to know.

>>46374697
As Zeon-kin, this image offends me.
The glorious Principality should not be reduced to a problematic spelling error.

Feddies get out.

>>46374697
I'm a trans attack helicopter to Tzeentch-kin.

>>46374743
Palatine Jat Kittag on a Rhino Prime.

You?

>>46374697
Demi-fiend is a gender? Well now I'm questioning my sexuality.

>>46374783
>Attack Helicopter best
not
>Guided Missile Destroyer
Just because it didn't make the list doesn't mean it isn't best.

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>>46374832

>>46374822
Yes my main setup. I Loveses my rhino prime.

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>>46374492
>>46374504
It's literally gonna be up right after Warframe is finished.

>>46374507
I think I know why you ask that. And I make no promises.

>>46374420
>mfw

>>46374880
Someday I'll remember that series where humans ended up in cryo-stasis waiting until things were safe again and were watched over by a race of genetically engineered dog people who stayed loyal to the last and protected the humans for thousands of years until it was safe. It really bothers me that I can't name it.

That puppy is cute.

>>46374880
YES! NERFNAUTUS CONFIRMED! NOW ALL SHALL TREMBLE BEFORE MY FOAMY WRATH! AND THEN, WITH MY NEWFOUND POWER, I WILL FINALLY ASCEND TO TRUE SATURDAY MORNING CARTOON VILLAINY! AHAHAHAHA!

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>>46374922
I would absolutely get up at 6 am to watch a cartoon show version of Warhammer 40k featuring Nerf weapons.

>>46374950
Fuck that. It's current year and you're an adult.

Use the DVR you mong.

>>46374950
>Legions of Necrons
>The Fortress of Arrogance
>All these weapons designed to exterminate all life..
>Go to Nerf Jump and use them to become S.M.C.V.
I feel like my entire life has lead up to this moment. I hope the Necron Jump gets finished soon, I want to BE the omnicidal robot skeleton, and STILL be a Saturday Morning Cartoon Villain!

>>46375020
Is there a Tyranid jump on the way?

>>46374950
>by the emperor their numbers seem to have no end darts rain from the heavens and water baloons fall in a torrent. I fear by this day tomorrow the world shall be lost, for none shall remain dry.

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So, I've been working on my first jump (very, very slowly) for the last while.

Was wondering if anyone had comments, suggestions for the last couple of perks I need to do, and/or extra items they'd like to be offered in addition to what I have.

WIP is here: http://pastebin.com/9cav7wwz

>>46375056
Idea's been kicked around, nobody's volunteered for it.

>>46375056
With babs gone probably not.

>>46375056
I heard something like that, yeah, though that could have been just rumor.

>>46375095
>Babylon gone
Wait, what? Why?!

>>46375095
Dude, he never claimed it, and other people are allowed to work on 40k jumps.

>>46375116
Spacebattles, one of their mods and Mega conspired to replace the Babylon 5 jump because they don't think it grants enough power.

>>46375134
>Spacebattles
Fucking seriously? Didn't they try to pull that shit on Merchant too?

>>46375177
Don't remember, but Babylon got fed up with it and decided to quit.

>>46375056
I was thinking about it, but I don't think I'd do a very good job. If I get inspired with a good idea or two I'll put a claim forward, right now however it's totally up for grabs.

>>46375134
>because they don't think it grants enough power.

Technically, it was because the mod felt like it didn't cover the whole of the 'verse or something. Not getting to be enough different types of alien was mentioned as well.

He was still a complete cunt about it.

>>46375221
Nah, he mentioned how he felt the perks were too weak.

>>46375177
Not that I know of, all I know is that Merchant is from Spacebattles and that he argued on spacebattles with the mod trying to replace the Babylon 5 jump. He posted in thread about it linking to the shit to inform people about it, though he did say not to invade because it would get him banned and do nothing.

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>>46374974
You need to show more faith and loyalty to the Immortal Emperor. True Citizens of the Imperium would awaken at the crack of dawn to view our glorious troops in battle. Should Heresyanon see your lack of devotion, you will surely be purged.

>>46375057
This is literally what was running through my head. Why are we not funding this?

>>46375061
>>http://pastebin.com/9cav7wwz
It's really not bad for a first Jump. The first is always the roughest. Initial suggestions would be to make sure one of the Backgrounds is a Drop-In style Background, with no extra memories attached. It's a staple element and many people who run through Jump prefer them. Next, I would advise limiting Companion Imports to 8, probably for about 300 CP. Again, it's another staple element. Some people do Jump around with more than 8 Companions, but only 8 are allowed out at once in any case.

I do like the Complications though. The perks and items as well are coming along nicely. Keep it up and I look forward to the Jump.

>>46375061
Really digging Christmas Crisis Averted, What Kinda Party Was This?, The Cask of Amontillado, and the deer head.

Multiversal Sanitation Detail is fucking hilarious with the talk people had about Jump-chan having to clean up after the Jumper a thread or two ago.

Never played the game so I can't add much more.

>>46375305
>Heresyanon
Did someone say HERESY?!
>>46374974
YOU! YOUR LACK OF DEVOTION TO OUR MOST HOLY LORD IS SICKENING, AND YOUR FAILURE TO AWAKEN AT THE PROPER TIME TO VIEW OUR MIGHTY LEGIONS CRUSH THE HERETICS AND XENOS IS SIGN OF WEAKNESS AND INCOMPETENCE! LACK OF DEVOTION, WEAKNESS AND INCOMPETENCE, FOR A WRETCH LIKE YOU, THERE IS ONLY ONE SALVATION: CLEANSING BY THE FLAMES!
Man is it good to be back.

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>>46375305
Yeah, will make sure to have a Drop-In option.

The higher Companion import limit was because of the multiplayer cap being that high in the game itself. But yeah, propably better to go with tradition in keep it to 8.

Anyway, thank you.

>>46375320
Thanks!

>>46375305
>>46375404
I'm all for giving my life for the Emperor and purging heretics and all that, but if he expects me to get up before noon on a Saturday, I'm jumping ship to Chaos.

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>>46374629
Mah nigga. Victory should be earned in true combat, not through lies, trickery, and the stolen power of gods.

>>46375492
...YOU ARE REALLY NOT HELPING YOUR CASE, ANON. OR MY VOICE, GOD-EMPEROR BEING A HAM IS HARDER THAN IT LOOKS. ANYWAY, WHERE WAS I? OH, RIGHT, HERESY!

>>46375134
It's funny, the mod who decided he could replace peoples jumps on our drive actually said he was doing it because he wanted a jump that would get more people interested in the series, then he went and basically went out of his way to piss off as many people as possible and ensure like three people total will ever see the jump and one of those will be his mom.

>>46374974
Look i'll get up early on a Saturday WHEN the Emperor gets up early on a Saturday ..... is he still sitting down .... then wake me up at noon.

>>46375134
To be fair, it isn't the SB community's fault really. Mostly the mod was just being prick, but didn't actually post anything about it here or try to put it on the drive. He just posted it in the thread their and tried most of SB ignored it actually, iirc.

And the Merchant decided to come rage over here, which brought Babylon over there. At which point he acted way more melodramatic than necessary and left.

Really, that mod had proved he was a twit who doesn't listen in the past and I told Merchant he should just ignore him and let it die down.

>>46375872
Fuck off, Mega. Trying to shove the blame on Merchant and Babylon because you dislike them and don't like being called out? That's low.

>>46375902
Uh, no. Mega definitely didn't help things, either.

And I'm not blaming either of them. I just think they could have handled it better than they did.

>>46375955
Babylon was over there anyway, Megacancer. You can't put blame on anyone but yourself and your mod.

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>>46375955
>>46375902
>>46375872
Can we /please/ just let this drop? It's literally the same argument every time it gets brought up and it's getting rather old.

Spacebattles. Because why shouldn't someone be allowed to change all the available companions in a jump into ponies with three heads and fives assholes?

>>46375872
>>46375902
>>46375955
>>46375985
Let the nightmare begin anew. I'll grab popcorn.
>>46375998
Or we could do this. This is better, actually, let's do this.
>>46376006
Wait, what. Why.

>>46375902
Hi, Puritananon!

>>46376070
>Meaningless buzzwords that don't even have any relevance to the discussion.
Then there's this retard.

>>46375998
It's okay, Yoro. We can hide away in a corner and cover our ears to with umbrellas to block the situation together.
>>46376006
Did someone actually suggest that? That honestly loops back to being hilarious.

Hey Anons, what's going on in this thread-
>This argument again
Welp, I'm out. Goodbye everyone, have a nice day!

>>46375985
This is the equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and screaming about how you're right. I'm not Mega.

The mod is to blame. I don't remember exactly what Mega did, but he definitely stirred shit up.

It's just that the mod is a self-righteous asshole who only felt more and more justified the more people argued with him.

And Babylon has an account there, but he doesn't post there much and explicitly said he only came over because people were talking about it here.

>>46376006
Oh, come on. Only like two people there are avid ponyfags. And one of them is Mal, who generally gets along fine here.

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>>46376092
Maybe I'll just retreat to the Angry Dome for a while. Or perhaps the Chamber of Understanding. Then again, the Cage of Dancing is always a fun time.

>>46374880
I have a question about the Re-sizing weapon perk from god of war. Is it limited to re-sizing the whole of the weapon or can i enlarge/shrink specific parts, like making the blade of a sword shrink so small that i basically only have the hilt?

>>46376149
No, it's the equivalent of telling you off for trying to blame us for your own cancer.

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>>46376160
I was thinking of the cone of silence, but okay.

>>46376149
IIRC the SB consensus for the pony thing was to keep it the fuck away from here. Not sure how it got here though.

>>46376169
No, the mod is definitely to blame. But he's like Bancho was. The more you acknowledge him, the worse he gets.

>>46376236
But just like Bancho, you don't blame us for being sick of him.

>>46376257
I never blamed anyone for being sick of the mod, either.

>>46376282
You blamed Merchant.

>>46374651
I COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT THIS. Yes, you may take Sera as a companion in part 2. Good lord, I'm a goon.

>>46376312
Hooray for intact build!

Thank you again for the jump.

What did you guys get with Miscellaneous Meta in PS238?

>>46376306
I think Merchant made the situation worse. But he's not to blame for the cancer.

>>46376379
Which is the same as blaming him.

>>46376166
Well it is certainly great but you could always just make a weapon with d&d, all the weapons and armor from those settings always fit their users.

>>46376341
No problem, thanks for the support.

>>46376201
People shitposting, and people responding to it, making people shitpost even more in the future. That's literally it.

>>46376378
Supervision. Specifically telescopic long-range vision, comics x-ray vision, and electromagnetic spectrum vision (down to microwaves).

>>46376385
Okay, anon. You win.

I'm secretly a joint effort from Mega and the mod to try and shift the blame to Merchant.

>>46376378
Actually, I've been meaning to ask: could I use that to get some type of super-precision? I want to telekinetically affect thing on the molecular/atomic level.

>>46376378
I ripped off E-bon, except I took shadow constructs in instead of shadow teleportation.

>>46376429
You're a little late, that joke was already made last thread. Unless you're that Anon, in which case, hi Red-ASA-Val-Me-Everyone else, how are you doing?

>>46376450
yeah, that's what Jean Grey had with the Phoenix force, and she is most certainly not on the level of a Spiderman or static shock villain, at its weakest you're asking for FIM alchemy. Do you seriously think either static or Spiderman could reasonably take down someone who can will anything into a nuclear bomb?

>>46376429
That's my line!

>>46376511
I'm fine. How are you?

>>46376511
Nah. I'm not that guy. That guy was just all the namefags here. I'm some assholes from Spacebattles.

There's some overlap in that we're both partially Mega, but really we're completely different.

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>>46376511

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>>46376378
I haven't been there yet, but I would probably use it for more Luck Powers. I already have a few and I could always use more.

>>46376558
Pretty good, actually. I faced myself, we had a Bel of a time. unlocked my Persona, I laughed, my Persona laughed, my Shadow laughed, I killed my shadow, it was a fun time.
>>46376564
Ah, gotcha. Sup half-Mega, how are things?
>>46376567
Ow the Edge.

>>46376537
Uh, no Bancho, I don't think you're understanding what I'm asking. I don't want telekinesis that precise from Misc Meta - just the precision itself.
With just the precision, I'd just have really fine dexterity and maybe increased accuracy with thrown weapons or something.

But I'm planning to combo it with YJ telekinesis, which YJ Anon said is as precise and strong as you are.

>>46376378
Acid-Fire and Poison-Fire Generation.

The first functions more like a napalm flamethrower, with the fire clinging like a gel to objects and both burning and dissolving them. Works well for digging through inorganics, but can harm people just fine. I can do the human torch thing and set the left side of my body harmlessly on fire, but I can also expel it through my dominant arm.

The second functions more like a fuel flamethrower, with the fire being more like a gas. It just burns non-living material, but organics are poisoned and burned from the inside by it. Again, I can flame on with the right side of my body, and expel it through my other arm.

The notes said that the more specific a given purchase is, the stronger it becomes by default, so I didn't get a third power for either purchase.

From the little I know of PS238, I probably never used either power and just relied on martial arts and super strength due to how unbelievably lethal they are.

Yes, I used the Powerlisting wiki. Sue me.

>>46376610
Eh. Mostly okay.

My ass kind of hurts with my head all the way up it; you know how it is.

>>46376684
Yeah, I understand, these things happen.

>>46376647
this is a thinker, on one hand something like that level of control over your own body doesn't seem too bad but you outright stated that you're making a combo that will let you will anything you see into a nuclear bomb... So on one hand that level of dexterity and precision does seem to fall within the purview of the power,I am very hesitant to approve it because of the ridiculous combo, but on the other hand ridiculous combos are what the game is all about, I'd say one purchase would let you work with things as fine as a human hair, maybe if you bought it three times you could get that level of precision, everyone forgets that you can stack it with itself.

>>46377075
Eh, I mean you're supposed to manage jumps in a vacuum, aren't you? If someone wants to combo it with something else, that's really not the fault of any of the Jumpmaker who made the jumps they're comboing stuff from.

>>46377075
I mean, I can already essentially make nuclear explosion at-will. I just want to be able to perform telekinetic surgery or a ranged version of FMA alchemy.

>>46377126
Swings both ways though of course. Sometimes it feels like someone has put something into a jump because of how well it works with something else. Not saying that's what's happening here but it's worth keeping in mind.

>>46377179
Well, the Telekinesis power in Young Justice lets you interact with things at a distance as if you were touching them, not just lifting them with your mind. So if you've got clapchemy you should be able to transmute at a distance.

>>46377126
true but I don't want to have the next that one perk from smite+ if it bleeds+ sting+Hind-blood dagger on my hands, and I did approve it just not as cheaply as they might have liked

>>46377126
>>46377185
Thing is, people say you're supposed to manage jumps in a vacuum, and then the arguments along the lines of "well why is X in your jump priced like this when there's an X2 in this jump priced cheaper?" or "Well why should I go for Y in this jump when Y2 is so much better?"

It turns into a bit of a popularity contest with people making their perks according to others' demands rather than what fits the setting.

>>46377257
Yeah, but those are stupid complaints made by stupid people.

>>46377274
Not saying it's smart.

Just saying it happens.

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Oh yeah to the guy who was asking about the Skull of Corruption it probably won't work on an actual god. Can't imagine one Daedric Prince could use it on another to get rid of them as if Vaermina had that much power the Daedric Princes wouldn't have collectively had to get rid of Jyggalag in the way they did.

So peak comicbook Darseid probably not. Don't think it worked on Mehrunes Dagon in Oblivion either as he counted as a creature rather than an NPC Wabbajack hilariously did but probably wouldn't in the jump either, sort of muddied the waters with this analogy. Darkseid is probably also not an NPC.

Would work on your standard less than divine superpowered peeps though. I mean the thing is still really powerful and (temporarily) copies people's equipment and shit so there are still all sorts of mad things you can do with it.

>>46377414
Man this is the most pathetic attempt to apply non-canon restrictions ever, full of contradictions, invokement of game mechanics, and backtracking I've ever seen. It's pretty laughable.

Can you take Miscellaneous Meta more than once in PS238?

>>46377549
yes I just said you could, and if you take the same power more than once it stacks.

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Do you accept your new robot overlords?

>>46377414
OTOH, the Skull of Corruption the jumper gets is bought with CP and is thus an artifact of our benefactor, even if modeled on an in-world item, and is potentially superior to one you just scavenge up or construct in-world, no?

>>46377538
This is the lameist attempt at a shitpost ever.

>>46377612
I'm sorry, "new" robot overlords? I've been ruled by robots for like the past twenty years. It's very satisfying. I recommend that anyone who hasn't accepted them to do so now, it will really improve your life.

>>46377644
Yes, and there are also benefactor-created artifacts that are weaker than the ones found in-world. So you're still getting a good deal to just have it be as strong as the canon Skull.

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>>46377612
>But anon, I am the robot overlord.

>>46377414
You know this makes me want to wabbajack Darkside just to see what would happen. I can accept he may be too powerful for it to work on in and of itself but I have an idea for a combo to super charge it.
First take wild mage in forgotten realms they can control random effects of magic items and should be able to empower them with their own magic, then take gift of the thousand masters from negima and then finnally take advanced magic and chaos magic from from young justice.
Also you might want to go to Percy Jackson and take Nyarlathotep as your parent for a boost to your chaos powers first...
With all of that behind it do you think it would be possible to make the wabbajack effect Darkside? Also do you think even if it did that it would have any more effect than really pissing him off?

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Mother

Tazmily Village
Village Kid 50
PSI 250
Rolling Counter 400
Ultimate PSI 700
Evil Power 1300
Zoom? CP Get 1200
Copy Protection 1000

I liked this jump. Don't know the setting but it has a lot of character.

Took PSI as I'm a sucker for a power that gets better over time.

Rolling Counter is obscenely good and I would have bought it at 800 CP, something that stops you dying for a bit if you can heal in time is ridiculous, seems to read like you can get your head shot off and keep running around as long as you can regrow it in a few seconds, means you mostly just have to worry about sustained damage.

Ultimate PSI sounded pretty ultimate. Sort of wish I'd done more research than playing a lot of Smash Bros.

Evil Power just really reminded me of the Ash Statues from Morrowind so I took it. Nice and spooky. Shame it's one at a time so I can't go full Sixth House.

Zoom? CP Get makes me a weirdo. How much I mind these sorts of perks is inversely proportional to how much I care/know about the setting. Embarrassing shit is not so bad if you're never going back.

Copy Protection means tonnes of mooks everywhere and I can't stay in the setting or use a Return on it which is sort of fine.

>>46377538
I think you have to have presented a certain position before you can backtrack on it. It doesn't work on everything in the games, there's very little fluff about it so obviously it's not going to work on everything. Doesn't even work on guards but I can only assume the lore version of it would (and we can only really make assumptions as there's basically no lore on it).

>>46377644
It's very powerful in setting and Daedric artefacts basically don't make sense in other settings by their nature. This one would continue to work, would not disappear on you when it gets bored and will not try to give you unholy nightmares. Would it make sense as an option if it worked on every single entity in the omniverse?

>>46377612
>Robots
>Not Lovecraftian monstrosities
It's like you don't WANT to be driven joyfully insane by the unholy glory of the beings who should not be.

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>>46374400

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Are there any jumps where i can get a pet dragon about the size of the picture? I would rather it isn't sentient.

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>>46376378
paper kinesis and reading empowerment so i get stronger for a while after reading a good book.

Question: In Worm proper Tinker Tech can't be massed produced but if i have 'Reverse Engineering' Power and i can already mass Produce super tech from a previous jump like MCU Iron Man tech for example can i still mass produce the super tech?

On an unrelated note, I'm terrible short on magic (more of a tech guy myself) can anyone suggest some good jumps to grab some magic?

>>46378086
The only reason it can't be reverse engineered is because the shards prevent it and make it as hard as possible. It's not a supernatural thing, it's intentionally obscured design and mental blocks.

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BODY MOD
--BUILD--
Heavy
--BODY TYPE--
Body Builder (500cp)
--STATS--
•Strength 4 (400cp)
•Endurance 4 (300cp)
•Speed 3 (150cp)
•Appeal 2 (50cp)
•Shape 1 (0cp)
--PERKS--
•Height 1

WAREHOUSE
--UTILITIES--
•Electricity (140cp) - Gotta have lights
•Plumbing (130cp) - No bathroom but running water is essential
•Heat/AC (120cp) - Yes! Very essential!
--STRUCTURES--
•Shelving - Good for storing my stuff
•Terminal (110cp) - Good for keep track of my crap.
•Workshop (100cp) - When I need to tinker.
•Medbay (80cp) - For times when I'm injured.
--MISCELLANEOUS--
•Stasis Pod x2 (40cp) - Multiple pods for multiple people.
•Free Space (10cp) - Very roomy now.
•Food Supply (0cp) - Great, but I need to learn to cook.

ARROWVERSE (1)
--LOCATION--
Central City
--FACTION--
Vigilante
--ORIGINS--
Scientist
Male, 25yo
--PERKS--
•Adorkable
•Magna Cum Laude (Forensic Science & Criminology) (900cp)
•Genius (750cp)
•Hacker Extraordinaire (600cp)
•Gadgeteer (300cp)
--METAHUMAN--
•Metahuman (-300cp)
-Speedster (0mp)
--GEAR--
•Flash Style Costume & Storage Ring (-400cp)
--DRAWBACKS--
•Monkey Business (-200cp)
•The Rogues (0cp)
•It's Me Jumper!

(Redoing my chain, because last one ended due to lack of direction)

http://pastebin.com/dGCDtyZL

>>46378044
I would murder any three of you for a Read or Die jump.
I'm not going to make it since I'd be flagrantly doing it to Blue Feather Yomiko and buy her powerset.

Quick question how screwed is the world if you don't waifu anyone in Dragon Commander?

>>46378000
Well, you could always just genetically engineer one, I don't think it would be that hard to make a cute cat-like winged lizard and throw in a little fire-production.

>>46378175
But then wouldn't it be stuck in the jump that I made it in? I didn't buy a pod or I would just do that.

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>>46378000
Pseduodragons from Dungeons and Dragons are about the right size, but they're as sentient as an average Human. The problem with most dragons is that they are usually written with sentience to some degree or another.

You could always just take some genetic engineering perks and make your own if you really don't want it to be sentient. If you tool around the Rick and Morty multiverse long enough you could probably find something similar to what you're looking for.

You'd probably have to give up a Companion slot to keep it following you in any case.

>>46378160
Is there really enough to that series other than her paper powers to make a Jump around? I've only read a little bit of the series.

>>46378173
Not terribly screwed, but it will make politics /much/ harder with all the sides. You'll have to be an utterly charismatic smooth talker to get around that requirement.

>>46378204
Stuff you create automatically becomes companion. No pods needed.

>>46378204
Depends on your interpretation of the child rules (which are essentially "I don't know figure that out yourselves", for a good reason)

>>46378224
I'm not sure what one of Whitemantis' furry bug fursonas has to do with this.

>>46378204
Just make sure to have it in the Warehouse once a jump ends.

So long as it isn't too intelligent, it won't be booted out.

And if it is, it counts as a child per certain commonly accepted house rules. 'scool.

>>46378204
intelligences you or your companions create are grandfathered in, and unintelligent life doesn't need a pod ,don't worry too much about it.

>>46378160
I thought about it at one point, then I decided it would be hard. Currently I am working on Escaflowne because I'm a fucking idiot who doesn't understand appropriate levels of challenge.
>>46378224
There is a hell of a lot in Read or Die, and several power sets.

>>46378086
You should be able to. There are two main reasons why Tinkertech is difficult to mass produce. The first is that Tinkers don't actually know what they're building. The Tinker shard does all the hard work, up to and including subconsciously guiding the parahuman to correct for even the most minor flaws in their materials. They can get levels of precision and quality control that shouldn't be possible. This lets them get around the second problem with mass-producing Tinkertech, that Tinker shards intentionally throw in lots of pointless bits and intentional errors. Go with a direct analysis of a Tinkertech device and it will rarely work, because without a Tinker's quality control the thing is just pointless circuitry leading nowhere. Reverse-Engineering lets you actually understand what you're doing with that Tinkertech, though, so you should be able to mass produce it. It would be hard, but not impossible.

As for getting more magic, I suggest the Devil Survivor jumps and taking the "you are a major character" perks in each. Those both give you really powerful magic, and the one in DS2 gives you billions of years of experience with it (you might want to get some identity-protection perks like Murphy, It's You or Heart of a Child first, help keep your personality intact).

>>46378228
>>46378240
>>46378253
>>46378257
Thanks, now could I use said dragon as my familiar in the Gravity Rush jump?

>>46378204
Non-sapient life doesn't need a pod or to be a companion to be brought with you. You just want a pet, not a person, so it can hang out in the Warehouse just fine.

>>46378304
If you're okay with a familiar why not go Teru in Ar Tonelico? One of their breeds specifically comes with a small dragon familiar.

>>46378000
Easiest way is to get a pet option anywhere and turn it into a little dragon.

>>46378228
>>46378257
There's never been a rule on that. Not saying you shouldn't play like that, just pointing out there isn't a rule on it.

>>46378224
There are almost a dozen LNs, a manga, the OVAs, and I'm pretty sure there was a regular anime as well. That's not including Read or Dream, which is a completely unrelated plot set in the same world. Unfortunately, the LNs are pretty much completely untranslated, and the mangas are all licensed, but out of print, making the research to build it right difficult.

>>46378304
that is not my call at all, gravity rush was someone else

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>>46378252
Absolutely nothing. I don't usually post pictures that have anything to do with what I'm talking about. Sometimes things line up nicely, but most of the time I'm just trying to spread art I like around.

>>46378269
Really? I might have to read into it a bit more then. I always liked that paper power for being rather original myself. Not going to do build a Jump of it though. I'm bent on creating Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura as my next one, though that'll be a while in the making.

>>46378333
It's not a rule because QS' suggested it as a possibility but then said "Do whatever you want though because I don't want to make rulings on this"

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>>46378160
drop in, library staff, and I-Jin. what would be the fourth origin you could be? soldier?

>>46378323
I was only taking a familiar for the Shifter perk tree, it was a requirement to become a shifter and i would rather have a little dragon than a cat.

>>46378372
Mercenary would be good yea.

>>46378353
He did about children rather than creations. Think he generally thought AIs were companions which just didn't sit well with most people so there was enough bitching about it both ways that there was never a proper ruling made. Which is just as well really. Better off just doing what feels right.

>>46378350
Ok thanks for the answer anyway bancho.

>>46378372
What's this series about, anyway? Some kind of dystopia where reading is illegal, or something? Read or Die sounds a little extreme otherwise.

>>46378443
>What's this series about, anyway? Some kind of dystopia where reading is illegal, or something? Read or Die sounds a little extreme otherwise.

There's a really old guy who is pretty important, so the British Library start cloning a bunch of famous people so that the old guy can have a new body, then it backfires and some of the clones band together to destroy the world.

>>46378443
It's about mercenaries that work for the royal British library recovering rare books, also a world ending terrorist organization that they have to stop because they plan to kill everyone in the world with the work of I think Beethoven. At least that's part of it and the movie, the anime covers different characters and there are several light novels and other things.

>>46378269
Escaflowne could be interesting, but i think it would be hard to actually find enough content to fill the jump with.

It's been awhile since i've watched the show (assuming that's what you use, the manga is almost completely different), but i don't think there'd be that many different things to turn into perks in that setting.

>>46378443
No. It's sort of a superhero action thriller series. The plot's about the secret war between two ancient conspiracies who in the modern day disguise themselves as intelligence agencies that are further disguised as the British and Chinese national library services. Together with the main character being a bibliophile who can telekinetically control paper, and "Read or Die" makes as much sense as any other name.

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Jump 18: Repaying a Debt a.k.a. Black Lagoon Murdertale style

Age: 23, Male (Rolled)
Location: Linen Closet at the Church of Violence (Rolled)
Origin: Psycho (100 CP)

Perks:
+ Unassuming (Free)
+ Implacable (250 CP)
+ Repressed Anger (850 CP)
+ Two-Hands (950 CP)
+ Counting Time (1050 CP)
+ Concealment Equals Cover (1450 CP)

Gear:
+ Serious Style (1500 CP)
+ Arsenal (1700 CP)

Drawbacks:
+ Obligation (1500 CP)
+ Hit List (1000 CP)

Story: http://pastebin.com/fZV9wN8j

TLDR Story:
I'm not going to talk about things too much on the board, because I kind of twisted things to fit a running narrative that I've built up. Basically, it's like the title up there says. I owed Ezel (yes, Ezel from FFTA) a favor, which he sold to some higher power/demon/ancient horror. It got traded a few more times before something decided to cash it in. The Jump Coordinator went along with it because it thought it would be good entertainment. I was given a choice, sacrifice all seven of my Companions or go into Black Lagoon and murder ten of the most prominent characters.
Guess which one I choose?

>>46378499
>>46378512
>>46378572
That actually sounds pretty cool, especially the whole "recovering rare books" idea. There's a lot of literature and knowledge that has been lost over the years. So this old guy, is he himself a cool dude or evil? Why did the clones decide to destroy the world, and what does Beethoven have to do with it? And may I assume that jumping this will also give us a chance to grab paper magic?

>>46378294
Awesome thanks
>(you might want to get some identity-protection perks like Murphy, It's You or Heart of a Child first, help keep your personality intact).

Are these perks in the DS jumps or from elsewhere?

>>46378269
Ooh, Escaflowne. That sounds fun, I look forward to seeing your work. But just to satisfy my impatience: Can we get Krima Claws? I love those things.

>>46378147
>http://pastebin.com/dGCDtyZL
Damnit Many, I laughed despite myself.

>Fastest ape alive
>Streak-Ape!

Did you just run on your hind legs, or did you lumber on all fours like an actual ape at Mach speed?

>>46378622
You're welcome. And Murphy, It's You is from Robocop while Heart of a Child is from Chronicles of Narnia.

>>46378640
Cheers!

>>46378618
Beethoven is basically the doomsday machine, he wrote a symphony so beautiful that anyone who hears it kills themselves.

>>46378554
The jump is using both of the two manga, the movie, though I am primarily basing things on the original anime. You can pick which one of the settings you go to, though I have perks based on each just most being the original anime, and I plan to add scenarios that are a nod to each setting. Currently I think I may be able to fill out a pair of perks at each discount level for 5 backgrounds, and I have some of a Guymelef Customization section completed. Items are the hardest section so far, and how to handle Atlantean technology is giving me a headache. Though I'm also being kind of slow about it. I will note that I am having a hell of a lot easier time coming up with perks for it than I did with Akame ga Kill, that kicked my ass because everything in setting seemed so focused on fighting.

Would that lack a need for food and water be an applicable Rainmaker Kid power in PS238?

>>46378618
Beethoven wrote a memetic kill agent in a song. Clones are of important historical figures and have superpowers in line with their history, and view themselves as superior to the rest of humanity. Old guy is kind of cool but he also kind of controlled everything or something, and after he dies the Royal library goes full evil in an attempt to resurrect him. Also there are lesbian bibliophiles.

>>46378754
Don't waste it for that just get a ring of sustenance from d&d.

>>46378666
...But Beethoven himself was deaf, so he couldn't hear it. That's actually really clever.
>>46378765
Huh, that's neat actually. Would we be able to acquire this song ourselves? I'd imagine quite a few uses for it. After all, Slaanesh's cultists love sound so much...

>>46378754
yes it would.

>>46378821
that seems like a thing that could happen but how are you going to both get the song and keep it from killing you?

>>46378877
Temporarily make yourself deaf?

>>46378877
Presumably the same way the villains do, by acquiring it in sheet music form, making a machine to play it, and then not being around when said machine is playing.

>>46378877
Well, it's a recording, right? I should be able grab it from there. Plus, there are plenty of perks that I could use to deafen myself temporarily.
>>46378923
Or this.

>>46378877
Force of will and/or resistance to memetic agents, I suppose.

Not to mention - having picked up Art in Musician, one could probably write tens of brown notes like that, while being immune.

>>46378625
>Can we get Krima Claws? I love those things.
Yea the liquid metal stuff is already in the Guymelef Customization section and free with a particular Guymelef you can buy(you can also import mech or just suits of armor as a guymelef with a price by size and so long as you buy a Guymelef) also a perk most of the tech Zaibach has at 400cp with a discount. Though I haven't gotten around to it I mean to add in a couple of upgrades to the liquid metal, including a projectile option that we only see like three times in the series, and another option to just have a shitload of the metal.

>>46379061
Nice. That sounds like it will be very cool stuff.

Hmm... In GUNNM Jump, does one need to take both Last Order and Legitimate Existential Angst to follow the basic story of the Manga, or is Last Order alone enough?

Would a Magic Core bd okay as a Noble Phantasm? What rank would it be?

>>46379174
Pretty sure just Last Order is enough.

Question: I've noticed that some Jumps just dont have companion import options and while for some I agree they should have the options for others I really want to bring the party.

Would it be reasonable to have the typical 50-400 cost with 300 cp in something like the FMA jump even though its not actually in the jump?

On a scale of 1 to rip canon, how much would things get better for Harry Dresden if I make him an Intelligent Device that can survive DF magic? Because I have enough perks that helps the stuff I make survive just about anything now.

>>46379196
You mean like you can buy in the fate jump? It's not at all like a NP, it's also stated by Valeria to be the equivalent of B rank mana.

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>>46379219
You can probably run things that way if you want, but I wouldn't talk about it too much on the boards. In the end, this whole process is a single player game, so nobody is going to stop you from doing Companions like that in all Jumps. It would still be best not to flaunt it.

>>46379206
Thanks. I thought so, but I wanted a second opinion on the matter.

>>46379219
You can bring your companions anywhere, imports just give them new things. If you want them to come along on the adventure that's fine.

Speaking of companions, not that anon, but I noticed some jumps don't have canon companion options. Is there any other way to recruit them?

>>46379431
Only pods unfortunately.

That or Blue Feathers.

>>46379431
Some jumpmakers are shit and don't offer the option. You pretty much have to go Blue Feather or overpriced Stasis Pod.

>>46379450
The amount of sodium chloride dripping from this post is hilarious.

So, suppose I wanted to create Dementors.

What would you suggest?

>>46379309
To be honest, I mostly go for Jumps that already have the option anyways, so it doesnt really matter. FMA is the only one so far really want it enough to ask

>>46379320
Well that works!

My Jumpchain is 90% road trip anyways, so powers and gear is secondary

>>46378294

Well, given that Dragon pretty much can mass produce tinkertech, IIRC, I think it's safe to say that particular power ought let you do so.

>>46379516
Cause misery and suffering.

>>46379443
>>46379450
>Blue Feather
Isn't that for marriage? And how expensive are the stasis pods?

>>46379598
>Isn't that for marriage
Yes. Marry everyone.

>>46379598
The pods are in the warehouse supplement where you get 150cp, and they cost 20 each.

>>46379598
Blue Feather does have a marriage clause, yes.

>>46379613
Damn it, anon, I'm a jumper not a harem protagonist!
>>46379633
Eugh, just getting two would be a third of the available cp...

>>46374336
That is one of the only jumps that straight up doesn't have a Drop-in, ya dingus.

Which would piss me off, but by the time I hit it, my mental segregation and psychic projection abilities have turned backgrounds into companions.

>>46379598
20 CP out of a 150 CP budget.

People either don't waste their budget on it, buy 1-3 to grab specific people in the future, or get all seven.

I find the latter options intellectually dishonest, as they require me to know how trivial what else I am being offered really is in the long run.

>>46379598
>Isn't that for marriage?
What? do you have something against Marriage? Are you some kind of filthy slut or something that want's to do things with people and have them come with you without marrying them?

>>46379664
Well the thing about the Stasis Pods is: they also guarantee resurrection for whoever's in them, and they allow you to stretch past the 8-active-companions limit (meaning you could technically have 9, 10, 11, so on and so forth active people).

I myself use them to save characters who have it shitty in one setting, and shuttle them to another for a 'blank slate' start.

>>46379431
You can buy stasis pods (and the most efficient way to use them is in combination with No Game No Life's Summoning ability, basically you can swap anyone you've met along your travels, in and out of pods) or the Blue Feather from Harvest Moon lets you marry people and thereby turn them into companions. (Consummation seems to be optional)

>>46379691
Well no, it's just that some of the characters I want to bring I just want as friends. That would be cruel of me to promise to marry them and then pull that on them.

>>46379788
It was just a joke anon.

>>46379820
I am aware, I was going along with it by playing the flustered nice guy. I've seen enough TV for that.

>>46379886
>playing the flustered nice guy
>playing
So you are saying that you really are a slut then. Got it.

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Alright. After some work on the WIP, I've managed to hammer out the last few perks and items, as well as the backgrounds, and made a few corrections.

Seems to me like I'm almost done.

Now, does anyone have further comments on it, suggestions for things to be changed, or requests to add more stuff?

http://pastebin.com/0T1U9ixt

>>46379930
Curse you anon and your taking of my words out of context, that is not what I meant!

>>46379516
Maybe see if you can reverse a Patronus spell somehow?

>>46378639
Hind legs of course. It's funnier that way.

>>46379174

Last Order - as LEM could disrupt things because you don't have an actual brain.

>>46374822
I ground for a year. Still couldn't get his chassis. Fuck the RNG. I had to buy it from another player recently.

>>46379598

"Will you marry me?"
"Sure."
"Great. Now, I want a divorce."
"Me too. So about those superpowers..."

>>46379969
For the record, the trunk works like the one in the game, where if you take something out and don't put it back in it disappears from all trunks, right? Because I may just be reading things wrong but the way it is right now makes it look like it duplicates items.

>>46380128
It works like that yeah, which is what I meant with it being superimposed.

Could propably stand to be clarified, yes. Will do so.

>>46379969
Ohhhh, I like House of Honor. I really like it. I am going to get so much use out of that.

>>46374400
Looks good. My CP is already scared.

I haven't played warframe in a while but what are these spectre things the warframes can get?

>>46380283
They're summons, basically.

>>46380283
http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Focus

It's related to the Second Dream quest.

>>46374105
Sorry, was asleep. It's basically the same, just applied to your normal form. You can make your form look like anything reasonably human.

>>46379196
No, if you want one, buy it in the jump.

>>46380283
It is a way of projecting your true self through the vessel of the body and unleashing the power of your truth within your body to smite the enemies who lie without.

>>46374400
>What's Yours Is Mine

Now we finally have the mechanical Conjoined Conjures that all the techie jumpers have been supposedly using without it existing.

>>46381066
Clean up on aisle 4, we've got another 'Doing It Wrong' fellow sperging on the floor.

>>46381135
He's not wrong. People feel a lot more free in combining conflicting scientific models than they are in combining conflicting magical models.

>>46381135
Except he's right, we weren't allowed to combine magic systems or any of that rubbish until Cardcaptor Sakura came along, and yet apparently technology's been free to mash together for a while now.

>>46381167
so Red just "air breathing mermaids"'d us?

>>46381066
Reads more like a reverse engineering perk to me than a combine the mechanical systems you know perk. Besides people tend not to view tech as incompatible except for things like the tech in Gundam 00 that relies upon a specific particle and are really awkward to explain how you could possibly combine it with other types of tech. Besides there was already Hydra Blueprints from the Marvel Cinematic Universe jump.

>>46381166
>>46381066
Hydra blueprints in MCU already lets you do this.

>>46381226
my mind went on a tangent reading that and decided we need a jump that can Flowers for Algeron jumpers
for those who don't know, Flowers for Algeron is a story of a man who gained hyper intellect, then lost it, and because he could remember what it was like to be smart while being dumb, could no longer function in society
So in a Jumpers case, it would do something ridiculous like give you post-spark power and then take it all away at the last minute
but what setting would be good for it?

>>46381166
>>46381167
You guys ever heard of reverse-engineering?

It typically lets you figure out how shit works. From there you can apply how that shit works, and figure out how to apply the shit you learn to your existing tech base.

Not to mention >>46381277

Name: Echo
Age: 19
Starting Era: 1937 - World In Chaos
Origin: Cursed - Vampire
Gender: Female

-Perks-
Inhuman Power (Free)
Power of Dominance (-800CP)
Lure of Darkness (-150CP)
Weapon Master (Chains) (-100CP)
Dual Art (-600CP)

-Items-
Cube of Zoe (-200CP)

-Drawbacks-
Order of the Demon (+300CP)
Illusionary Dance (+300CP)

I immediately make a beeline for Castle Dracula There, I kill everyone who gets in my way (Strangely, Mr Tall, Dark, and Bonely was nowhere to be found.) I find and stake the king of emo's himself, and store his soul in a glass bottle.

This done, I make my way to Texas, where I'd started a small company. There, I build a rocket set to go into the Solar System, and arrive back in 5 years time. I stash the bottle into the rocket, and launch that fucker.

The next five years are spent training and developing weapons for the army to use to do some good ole Nazi killing.

>>46381277
Also, Prototyping from the Polity is expressly able to combine technology from different settings.

>>46381319
Except noone ever bothers with that and just skips to the part where they mash shit together without getting any of the Perks that would legitimately let them work that fast or even acknowledging the possibility of such until they bring in magic and spiritualism to the workbench.

>>46380807
Thanks.

Though that makes me wonder, would Extra be manageable early on if I avoid drawbacks?

>>46381319
Okay so what was stopping people from doing the same with magic or spiritual techniques, dipstick? Isn't there the clause that similar-enough resource peoples, a la mana, magicka, and all that dreck, are mashed into one?

>>46381277
Yeah, but people never feel the need to justify their technological impossibilities with that like they do with using Conjoined Conjures for their magical impossibilities. There's a tendency to take technology for granted that way.

>>46381319
I'm not talking about just combining tech, I'm talking about combining tech from universes with vastly different physical laws. Like, say, using Star Trek technology combined with anything based off of non-technobabble physical principles. You shouldn't get straightforward fusions. You should get some weird random output that makes little sense as the physics conflict between the two parts.

>>46381322
...I think you severely underestimate Dracula. Especially given the drawbacks you have, and the fact that you really don't store DRACULA'S soul without it backfiring.

>>46381389
>Isn't there the clause that similar-enough resource peoples, a la mana, magicka, and all that dreck, are mashed into one?
No there is no clause, that is an interpretation that many people have, not a ruling. The ruling is Fanwank it.

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>Some idiot gets butthurt about some stupid shit and you guys take his bait.

I've got some questions about the Undertale jump:
If you don't have any companions, can you take Lost Souls for essentially free points?

If you're human in the jump, does the whole killing intent making "even toy weapons lethal against those with weaker SOULs" thing stick around after the jump and apply to things with physical bodies?

Is it possible to be human without basically jumpstarting the plot and replacing Frisk? Can you just win the monsters over and hang out 'till Frisk shows up?

Do you have to worry about Flowey using SAVE/LOAD to try to kill you before Frisk shows up? I've heard people make claims both ways, but I don't think I've ever seen anything from the author.

>>46381383
It is. It's definitely possible to do just with the Servant you get in jump. It won't be easy but it's not going to be overwhelmingly hard either.

>>46381438
You're surprised by this? Really?

>>46381322
Your purchase of All the World's Treasures and complete lack of care for how powerful Dracula is or how serious your drawbacks are is reminding me of someone.

>>46381438
>some idiot gets butthurt over people being idiots

>>46381391
Well some people do. Some people don't. I know I do.

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>>46381445
>>If you don't have any companions, can you take Lost Souls for essentially free points?
Technically, yes, but only because they're no restriction written into the Drawback itself. You'd be a horrible human being for doing so though.

>>If you're human in the jump, does the whole killing intent making "even toy weapons lethal against those with weaker SOULs" thing stick around after the jump and apply to things with physical bodies?
Short version, no. This is more a product of the monsters having weaker SOULs than it is you gaining any kind of significant power. Think of it as a rule of the setting more than an official power up.

>>Is it possible to be human without basically jumpstarting the plot and replacing Frisk? Can you just win the monsters over and hang out 'till Frisk shows up?
Yes. In the intro text it says that you show up 5 years before the start of the game, when Frisk shows up. So you would replace one of the other unnamed Humans that fell down beforehand and were killed by Asgore. What happens because of that is entirely up to you.

>>Do you have to worry about Flowey using SAVE/LOAD to try to kill you before Frisk shows up? I've heard people make claims both ways, but I don't think I've ever seen anything from the author.
Not the author, not going to make a claim either way. You'll have to make your own decision here.


I would like to point out, again, that I'm not the author. The above comments are just my opinions on the matter after reading through the Jump and knowing the Source Material well.

>>46381396
I've seen people say you can't eat his soul, but never store it. Also, not seeing how what I did contradicts the drawbacks.

>>46381475
Who, Anon?

>>46380310
>>46380338
>>46380832
Cool. I should get back into that game...

>>46381677
>This is more a product of the monsters having weaker SOULs than it is you gaining any kind of significant power.
That thought occurred to me, but then I was left wondering what the benefits are to being human in this jump if their power is only good for this one jump because of the mechanics.

>>46381778
I think me but in fairness it was a middle jump and I did take powers roughly equivalent to the protagonists, and I had a lot of backup.

>>46381778
Illusionary Dance (+300 CP) - Dracula slumbers fitfully, and those who serve the dark are prepared to take advantage of this. In addition to any rebirths you could expect from the timeline, there will be a number of attempts to resurrect him, and at least one WILL succeed no matter your efforts. Each time he is reborn, Dracula will learn more of what you can do; by his true rebirth, he will be a terrible foe indeed.
You took a drawback that guarantees you'll have to fight him at LEAST twice...And then only fought him once. And then you took the drawback that makes his minions damn near hyper competent, so they should actually be able to revive him MORE than twice. Aside from this, you stored the Lord of All Evil, the Prince of the Night, and the Servant of the Primordial Chaos' soul...And you put it in a glass bottle. Seriously? This is ignoring the fact that Dracula is a being powerful enough to enslave DEATH. And that that was centuries before the era you started in, where his power would be far greater. In other words, you essentially said "No, I walk into his castle, kill him and all his minions even though it wouldn't be that easy WITHOUT the drawback, trapped him in a glass bottle when trapping him in a fucking eclipse didn't do the job completely, and I only faced him once, even though the OTHER drawback guarantees I'll fight him at LEAST twice." That's what the problem is. Maybe clarify? I don't think you're that kind of a person, but the way you wrote it, that's how people are going to perceive you. I mean, admittedly the eclipse thing was at the height of his power but he's only one rebirth behind.

>>46381999
To be fair, you can kill death as an ordinary guy with a whip.

>>46382042 to be fair it's a very magic whip

>>46382042
I will agree to this, though I will also point out that the Belmonts ARE a family of vampire hunters with holy relics. That's still not much though, I agree, so them killing Death is either incredibly impressive for them or incredibly lame for him.

So is it possible to do Light of Terra as an early jump and still survive? I mean you lose all your powers anyways, so it has to be possible as an above average human.

>>46382087
Depends on how early and what jumps you already have. I'd focus more on jumps that give you actual skill as opposed to powers or such, because I think you get to keep skill and experience. Could be wrong, though.

>>46382123
so I'd keep Savant but lose Aura if I took both from Pokemon?
Alright, guess I'll go with more basic talents.
Not sure which companion I want to take from LoT though, I was considering the Space Marine, but becoming a space marine myself doesn't really appeal to me

>>46381890
Monster Cat from Soul Eater. Souls are not SOULs, but SOULs are souls, and the nine are your own meaning you can take them along.

Once you get just 6 of these babies, you start being able to do some serious shit. Spoilers obviously.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL5STXqyBK4

No SAVE/LOAD means no large scale Jumpertale/My World shenanigans, but generic low-level reality warping and a spooky super form is still neat.

Although, you might want to buy Undertale magic. Just to be certain you can actually harness that power directly.

I'm unimaginative and afraid of either of the Jumpmakers popping to say no to it and ruining any long term planning, so I pretty much use it like glue to hold together powers/science/magic that doesn't merge by default for convenience's sake and filling in gaps for things that I don't need to do but want to without going out of my way to get combo pieces.

>>46382186
Maybe? I think it's more you lose the perks but not the skill you've gained FROM perks. Like, if you've been to a jump, and while you were there, someone said "Hey, let me teach you x" then you would still retain that. Or if you have a learning perk, and you used that to master how to shoot accurately or how to be a good sword fighter, you would still know how. Or something.
>>46382204
EHAHEHEAHHAHAHA! That would be my best written version of that nightmarish laugh.

>>46382204
You should grab a monster SOUL, too, if you want to take full advantage. Adding monster SOULs into the mix gives improved ability to manipulate the power, thus the difference in strength between Photoshop Flowey and the Absolute God of Hyperdeath. It helps that the Absolute God of Hyperdeath had all the monster SOULs put together, which together had as much energy as a single human SOUL.

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>>46381890
>>That thought occurred...
The benefits to being Human in the Undertale Jump is the ability to make your own story instead of following the one that already exists. Additionally, you get the discount on a number of nice Perks. Other than that, like most Backgrounds, you don't gain a significant advantage just for taking it outside of the Jump itself. There are examples of Backgrounds that do, but this isn't meant to be one of them.

It really is just a mechanic of the Jump.

For Example:
In my upcoming Jump, Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura, one of the mechanics of the world itself is that Technology and Magic are extremely hostile to each other. In this world, sufficiently advanced Technology tends to react violently in the presence of magic. If you are a mage of /any/ strength in this world, expect to sit a few cars back from a Steam Engine when you try to board a train. If you are a moderately powerful caster, expect to sit in the last few cars. A powerful mage is kept from even boarding the train platform itself, for fear of the engine simply exploding due to their mere presence.

Now, that's an extreme, but common example of a hard and fast rule of anyone coming in to do the Jump. It's a mechanic of the Setting itself. It will not follow you or give you any significant bonus after the Jump is over, but, like being a Human in Undertale, there are special considerations you have to look out for.

>>46382359
If I remember correctly, doesn't it work the other way around too, where sufficiently complex technology can actually inhibit the casting of spells?

>>46381999
Anon, you didn't even give me the chance to finish my little story. Who said I only fought him once?
His minions might be more competent, but how well can they handle someone who flies and runs at Mach 1, lifts 45-50~ tons, and is the best engineer on the planet?

>>46382492
yeah I was wondering why you would have the glass bottle return after 5 years, I'm guessing you have him fall into orbit, escape, and then you kick his ass again?

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>>46382483
Indeed it does. Things go violently wrong on both sides of the equation. You can always walk the line and dabble in both, but then you miss out on all the cool stuff and the power boost that goes along with going full hog one way or another.

>>46382515
Yep. Of course, I expect him to have broken out sometime in the intervening years, but then he would face the problem of being stuck in a metal version of his coffin in space.

>>46381278
We already have that jump, anon.
Light of Terra

First time doing this, decided to do some research before I got into it and have a general plan because I plan on turning this into a Journal Entry style story, how's this sound?
>JUMPER THEME:
Twisted Fate (All the fancy clothes, get magic that lets me use cards to attack, be smooth as fuck)
>CHAIN THEME:
Bonds Eternal (Me and my crew, we keep each other safe and live together forever, and fuck anyone who tries to stop that)
>PLANNED COMPANION LIST:
Vivi (an Umbreon)
Klein
My light of Terra companion
>PERSONAL RESTRICTIONS:
Guns and magic only (no swords, no axes, nothing melee)
take at least two drawbacks
must bring death and destruction upon things that attempt to alter my mind or my companions’ minds
must remain in human form at all times (no alt forms)
must always take drop-in
if a companion dies, they’re gone for good
can only have 3 companions (that’s not active, that’s total)
>GOALS:
Look out for companions and keep them alive at ALL COSTS
turn the Light of Terra into a factory that makes the Warehouse irrelevant and make it capable of FTL travel that doesn’t involve the warp because holy fuck NOPE
get Klein laid (this is probably the most difficult one on the list)

make Vivi a Death Scythe (not actually a scythe that's too fucking edgy)

>>46382724
the two drawbacks thing is per jump, not total, should probably mention that

>>46382724
The two drawbacks rule could really bite you in the ass on some jumps.
>Light of Terra or any SMT jump
Those will suck.

>>46382796
at least they aren't max CP drawbacks, that could REALLY fuck me over from what I've seen

>>46381456
Hey Val, it's the Item Creation guy again.

Can you make NPs just for the comfy?
I mean like making cups that never spill and keep the liquid at the perfect temperature, and blankets that are always fluffy and comfortable.

Also, does having EX rank give you any extra skill (like smithing or sewing), or just raw ability to make NPs with any crafting skill you have?

>>46382813
Oh yeah.
>Takes DS1, have to fight Lucifer.
>Takes DS2, have to fight Errai
>Take DDS part 1, have to fight Demi-Fiend
Yeah, pretty sure any one of those would be considered suicide for most.

>>46381322
1000 - 800 - 150 - 100 - 600 - 200 + 300 + 300 = -250.

Somewhere, something went terribly wrong.

>>46377538
>non-canon restrictions

Point to a time and date where the Skull of Corruption duplicated a Daedric Prince or continue to look like the stereotypical SB poster.

Devil Survivor jumps 1&2, I've never played the game/anime/manga whatever it is but would it help my chances to survive it it i completed Devil May Cry, Hellsing, Naruto, and Asura's Wrath jumps before hand (all have been Min-Maxed to 11)

>>46382897
>5 hours later

>>46382920
Oh yeah, as long as you don't take the 800cp drawbacks, that allow you to barely take on the final bosses. With those? Good luck. Trust me, Lucifer and Errai will kick your ass halfway to next week.

>>46382924
>still no examples

>>46382724
same guy here, how's this for a "first 10" jump list:
>Pokemon
>Full Metal Alchemist
>Jojo’s Bizzare Adventure
>Sword Art Online
>Arrowverse
>Fairy Tail
>Ratchet and Clank
>Light of Terra
>Supreme Commander
>Soul Eater

>>46382986
By the way, there seems to be some confusion over whether drawback!Demifiend is supposed to be the actual True Demon Demifiend or some sort of simulated nightmare. Just curious, which is it supposed to be?

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>>46382359
>>In this world, sufficiently advanced Technology tends to react violently in the presence of magic.

>looks at the magic and magic-amplifying perks on my jumper's sheet

Uhh... could you suggest a perk that would prevent the mere arrival of magic-heavy jumpers from causing "I accidentally the city", or include such a perk in the jump?

Otherwise I'm either going to have to hope I roll somewhere out in the sticks, and stay there, or hop in the handbasket.

(sidenote: wikipedia seemed to imply tech and magic render each other non-functional rather than violently exploding, is it inaccurate?)

>>46382986
>Lucifer and Errai will kick your ass halfway to next week.
Even with Dark Binding (stocked up on nazi's) letting me respawn, plus with an infinite Mantra hack?

>>46382820
You could make items like that without EX rank, seems like it'd be simple to make those with just the lower ranks of IC since they're just simple enchanted items.

EX rank only gives you the ability to make Noble Phantasms. You can get a good level of skill from previous ranks of IC, but that's mostly on magical item creation rather then focused in any one crafting skill.

>>46382861
...Fuck it, I'll fix it later. Too busy playing Deus Ex right now.

>>46383020
Simulation, he's solar data of a Demi-Fiend that died before he could finish any of the paths. It's why True Demon ending is noted as a possible future.
>>46383066
Lucifer is universe busting, and Errai will eventually reach the point that he will be able to create and destroy billions of universes. The only reason they're not suicide options is because neither of them are at full power. Let me put it this way: These two make Chakravartin and the Chaos Gods look like bit players.

>>46383066
Oh, very much so. Shin Megami Tensei is a very high power setting.

>>46383066
Don't remember from the top of my head, but Lucifer either becomes immune or perfectly reflects physical attacks after a certain point, and Megidoladyne will wipe out all of your vampiric familiars/1-ups instantly if you make too much use of them.

Errai can just erase you from existence if you're not careful and try to fight him before bringing him down to a more manageable level.

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>>46383066
Oh gawd, you're actually serious

There is nothing in the Hellsing series that holds a candle to anything from SMT with the possible exception of Schrodinger's quantum existence being an OCP-and even that wouldn't help once one of the major players gets serious.

I frankly don't believe in your literally "infinite" mantra hack but suffice to say that Chakravartin, the creator of Mantra, is NOT stronger than the two people you just listed. And your only hope, with the former, is he's holding back.

What is the safest setting we have?

>>46383176
His best bet is probably to go to Digital Devil Saga first, and grind his ass off in hopes he can unlock Monotheist in the time he has. That at least would protect him from Lucifer. Errai could still get around it, though.

>>46383153
>>46383158
>>46383176
>>46383187
Is there a Perk/Item/Power from any Jumps that lets you tangle with them?

>>46383196
It's probably a tie between Winnie the Pooh and Generic Sugar Bowl.

>>46383216
The stuff in the jumps they hail from gives you a chance not instantly die. There's stuff in other jumps, but you really shouldn't consider taking a stab at SMT until you've been to like, 300-400 jumps as a secure arsenal of things you can fall back on

>>46383204
Monotheist isn't available, apparently, it says in the Mantra section. Maybe that's just what you can buy?

>>46383257
That was my assumption, it was just not available to buy and if you really wanted it you'd have to find it yourself. But if it's not available at all...yeah, those Almighty attacks are going to be a nightmare. Monotheist is the only way to get Null Almighty that I know of. I think you could in theory get Resist Almighty in the Persona jump, but not Null Almighty. Guess he'll just need to boost his HP and magic defense stats up super high, then.

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>>46383058
I am planning on having a +0 CP Drawback that would allow you to "shut off" specific powers for the duration of the Jump so people don't feel locked in to a path based on their previous Jumps, as well as a larger CP Drawback that will shut off /all/ your outside powers.

It's not on that large of a scale in any case, even extremely powerful wizards only affect things within a few hundred feet at the most.

The wiki is right, but not 100% right. Tech and Magic can render each other non-function, but it isn't the only critical failure that might occur. Flintlock pistols and Rifles can violently explode in the hands of a mage because of all the explosives involved. Magic swords might simply refuse to work in the presence of powerful technology. In that case, a sword can't really explode, But steam engines certainly can. On the flip side, Summoned Demons, when exposed to high technology are more likely to break free of the spell binding them and start ripping the mage a new one. But a Light Spell would probably just fizzle out. So you can imagine what a duel between a Steam-Powered Armored Fusilier and a Powerful Mage would probably look like.

Those are all just examples. Basically what an item does when it critically fails in the presence of its opposite half depends on what the item is.

... I swear I'll try to make it all make more sense when I actually write out the Jump.

>>46383327
Monotheist is Null Attack, not Null Almighty. Almighty attacks and status effects ignore it entirely.

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>Be DS Anon
>See people discussing how to beat 800cp drawbacks
>mfw

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>>46381391
>combining tech from universes with vastly different physical laws. Like, say, using Star Trek technology combined with anything based off of non-technobabble physical principles. You shouldn't get straightforward fusions. You should get some weird random output that makes little sense as the physics conflict between the two parts.

I actually do think about this. It's why I (over)compensate by researching things like quantum stabilisation (thank you, Aspect of Stasis), using powerful energy sources like the PEM/orgels/S2 Engines/Gravity Furnaces/dark matter warp drives to compensate for higher energy requirements and integrating magic/psychics/alchemy into the systems to make them more robust. I just never really get asked much on the nitty-gritty of it, and in any case I did take HYDRA Blueprints to fiat away the more advanced fusions

>>46383406
Yeah, for some reason I thought Null Attack included Null Ailment and Null Almighty. But that's not right at all. What am I thinking of, then? I know that there is a way to get Null Almighty in one of the games. Shit, this is going to be bugging me.

>>46383438
Little help then?

How would you do it?

>>46383495
don't take the drawback?