Post your favorite guns, whether it be colonial muskets, modern

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>>46356449

>>>/k/

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>>46356474

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>>46356449
Come to the SoS threads if you want a booster shot of /k/-tier gun autism. Call of the Void is the closest thing to a good tacticool simulator I've seen since Ops and Tactics.

Best gun coming through.

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Fucking Russkies robbing us of some great odd machine pistols.

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Shame that it can't feed once the mag's switched upwards.

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wheellock guns hhnggg

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>>46356449
Surprisingly reliable little machine once you'd modded the snot out of it.

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I think these had a variable ROF, for those rare cases when you absolutely have to dump all the ammo into something ASAP.

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My illuminati characters sidearm.

The extremely overpriced and futuristic pistol.

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A potential choice for my rogue trader.

Especially since the rules would have to be hombruu.

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'Cause you can't beat a classic.

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The humble plasma gun. I love how it looks like a raygun from the 1950's.

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My DH2E character used a twin linked bolt pistol, whith a belt magazine.

Better than a stormbolter in that it can fire in melee.

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I owned one before, but I sold it during the 2013 happening to get a 226. Wish I hadn't sold it - I like the 226 but it was an AK I got for 500 circa 2010 (sold it for almost twice as much, but now AKs are almost twice as much as they were back then).

I love how simple it was. And when I fired it I was amazed how damn well 0 recoil I had - remarkably much more noticable recoil firing a rented AR15 a few years later. But it is elegant in its simplicity and straightforwardness.

I've never used one but I'd love to get a FAL, and I like how Galilis look too.

>>46356820
>Galilis
>throwing your money into the israili warmachine.

>>46356546
Oh yes, me likes.

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>>46356820
>and I like how Galilis look too.
Amen, I dont even know why

>>46356691
what game?

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>>46356449
>ctrl+f
>no FAL

For shame, /tg/

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My lifesaving Zone-trotting combi in Stalker Misery.

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No thread such as this is complete without a Ma Deuce.

>>46357600
Came here to post this.

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>>46356449

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These things are sex incarnate. I don't play a lot of games where they're in the rules though.

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Thompson can eat a dick.

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Always loved me some Galil.

>>46357364
i'm pretty sure it is Metro

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>>46356449
repeating flintlock rifle from the 17th century

>>46356774
Seconded, on the caveat that it has a drum.
It just looks so fucking cool.

>>46358427
Jesus, that's motherfucking sexy.

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>>46357921
>M2
Sissy.

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>>46358512
i have a couple of pic about the internals, but not of that exact gun, there were a few different ones made (i think including some wheellock versions)

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>>46358587

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>>46358530
>Iraqi police

You undermined your own argument, anon.

>>46357364
Pic is the Bastard gun from Metro 2033 and Metro Last Light. Pretty sure the sight in the picture is from Last Light, but the gun is the designated workhorse in both iterations (mostly because it's really easy to check the ammo left in the mag).

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>>46356449
I like dual wielding little Smgs, Macs, those things. Something about a continuous stream of bullets out of two hands seems so badass to me.

>>46357600
>>46357924
Also came here to post this

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>op says any guns
>/k/ommandos jerking it in here

I have a confusing and illogical love for the gun pictured here.

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>>46358809
This gun also feels rather sexy, like it fires a single round of FUCK YOU at medium range in a stylish manner.

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>>46356449
accept no substitutes

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There are about 30 guns I could post and still never be done.

>>46357364
metro2033

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>>46358863
If I had to pick an absolute favorite perhaps this Bizon here

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I made a drawthread request of this, based on the old Dark Forces 2 Jedi Knight Concussion rifle, otherwise known as Knockback Explosion Launcher.

Seriously, you could miss a stormtrooper by two feet and still kill the next one with the first one's body.

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>>46358893
Of course I just have a general thing for SMGs really. Its a shame they're kinda on their way out the door

>>46356677
I'll bet you'd like Dishonored.

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Sawed off flamethrower. Because.

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>>46358921
Machine pistols too, just fucking love them.

I can't even honestly think of the legitimate and practical use for a machine pistol but I don't care

>>46357921
The Browning M2 .50 cal heavy machine gun is the single greatest firearm ever designed by man.

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For when you gotta wage war in -30 degrees celcius.

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>>46358951
...and of course this here was my first love. There have been many since of course but it always hold a special place for me

>>46358975

From God, to John Browning, to Man.

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>>46358975
>ever designed by man.

Except it isnt. 20mm is the new .50, and 40mm is the new 20mm.

And theres 25mm grenade launchers out there. So they beat everything. Except for 40mm GLs that is.

>>46356449
M1911 and M1 Garand are the best choices

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>>46356449

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It's a love-hate relationship.

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>>46359047

Fuck your autocannons. Those aren't man-portable.

>>46358975

Sure, for killing guys inside WWI tanks.

Then as time passed and technology progressed, it got relegated from an anti-armour role to anti-personnel and anti-materiel roles. Now, new weapons are set to replace what it does in those roles too.

It's had a graceful slide down but it can't coast on forever.

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I find these guns so cutesy.

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>>46359178
Been portable since ww2, mate.

>>46359047
It's not just about the round, anon. It's about the weapon. The M2 is the world's best MG, and one of the world's best sniper rifles, in the right hands. All hail John Browning!

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real guns have curves, according to shirow

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>>46359239
>autocannon
>anti-material rifle

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I'm pretty sure the pistol can only be bought at an adult book store.

>>46359047
Also, you're retarded if you think any auto grenade launcher is better than MGs or cannons. Anyone who's ever handled one will tell you how fucking unreliable and frustrating they are to work with, not to mention you can't use them against any target you don't want to a. vaporize and/or b. riddle with dangerous unexploded ordinance that EOD will spend days cleaning up.

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Because if your gun can't also pick up a few cable channels, its not really a future gun.

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>>46359276

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Accuracy? Accuracy is for elves and liberals! God bless America! God Bless /k/! </satire>

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>>46356449

As a 'for fun' item, I made it for my players in Traveller. I call it the Hollywood
3d6+2 damage
No Auto
No Recoil
Reload 6/Minor
Ammo 60

I want to be able to give it to them as mission reward but they won't complete a mission

>>46359262

You've got a Ma Duece novelty dildo up your ass right now, haven't you.

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I don't know why, but I just love revolver rifles. Revolvers in general, really, but revolver rifles in particular.

>>46359392
>Anyone who's ever handled one

OH I REALLY ASKED YOU IF YOUVE HANDLED ONE. GO AHEAD PLEASE TELL ME.

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>>46359410
oh my god i don't know what end is going to make me shit my pants from laughter

he's trying so hard, and his mom thinks he's the best.

This pic is of one of my favorite weapons from the Star Wars d6 RPG. Put shortly, this is a mortar made man-portable through the use of a tiny hovercraft mounted to the front. The in-game ad talks about how people keep using it like a grenade launcher, and how several space stations have been ruined this way.

>>46359276
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>Bullets just look packed in any which way they can go there
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>I guess the gun is supposed to go into my armpit so I can look through the scope?, or maybe I'm just supposed to look through the scope from 12 inches away
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>Ammo goes where? Single shot?
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>Bullet does 90* flip at the end of the magazine. that or it fires tumbling sideways bullets
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>What in the actual fuck
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>Bullets perform another 90* flip. You think designers would have eliminated this step
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>Aiming not required
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>Let me put my face right above this ejection port here, also another gun requiring either armpit aiming or a 3 ft long humerus

>>46358427
Came here to post this

>>46359531
>would you trust your life to something that looks as if it should be filterfeeding at the bottom of the ocean?

>>46359533
OH GOD i missed number 22. What is he even doing?

>>46359513

Not him, but I am an 11B. The Mk19 requires a shit-ton more maintenance than the M2, and as he describes, is far more prone to malfunction. Whenever we run a live-fire with the Mark, we always make sure to have at least one spare weapon on standby, simply because if one jams on the line, it's either going to be a simple fix or require so much time and effort that's more efficient to just replace it. The M2 will work in pretty much any conditions, and is a hell of a lot simpler to field-strip and fix if something goes seriously wrong.

>>46358486

As someone who owns a Thompson: you shoot a stick mag unless you NEED the drum, or you're sick of having money. Drum fire can be more than a little fiddly, as you're supposed to be winding the spring AS you empty the drum. Sustained 50 round fire just isn't / wasn't a thing.

Did I mention the Thompson is a big fat hog that goes through ammo like a morbidly obese woman goes through steakhouse yeast rolls?

>>46356691
It's still a Bastard, though

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because every child wanted one

>>46356732
Does it shoot smaller guns that shoot money or something?

Yeah, I did, in Iraq, in 2007-08. Also used a .50 and a 240G, and I like the .50 the best.

Though I do really love the 240.

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>>46359701
Its gotten to the point that ive trolled you, but if i respond to your orphined comment you would have trolled me too.

>>46359854
What? A harpoon gun, or a 20mm-bore shotgun?

>>46359898
wut

>>46359883
Whoops, forgot to link to>>46359513

>>46359533
>>46359700
I'm kinda surprised you guys missed 34

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>>46359047
>he doesn't know

.50 is the new 20mm, Anon. Just gotta use the right ammo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpddudQaebI

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I love this ridiculous thing.

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>>46360058
>Look

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>>46360138

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>>46360190

One from the past
One from the present
One from the future.

>>46359926
... a grappling hook launcher.

>>46360089
THUNDER, THUNDER, THUNDERCATS, HOOOO

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>>46356449
among my favorites

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>Look what I found!

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>>46360206

... fuck it. One more.

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>>46360206

Otherwise known as "What Command & Conquer thinks is a Minigun."

>>46360501
Yeah, I still don't get that.

Why not just call them infantry, anyway? Or riflemen?

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>>46360501

Oh, and speaking of C&C...

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>>46360576

Later games did. I can only assume they did it because "it sounds cooler." Tiberian Dawn was built on 80's-action cheese, remember.

>>46360586
I wish tiberium panned out better, that game informer magazine had me hyped.

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>>46360657

Yeah, it looks like it would've had great atmosphere, and perhaps some good characters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoGNaP84kl4

Everything I've heard about stuff behind the scenes indicates it was an absolute shitshow, though. Inept leadership, no coherent vision, and completely unmotivated team members rotted the whole thing from within. For once, EA seems to have been telling the truth when they said it "failed to meet quality standards."

>>46360817
>Everything I've heard about stuff behind the scenes indicates it was an absolute shitshow, though. Inept leadership, no coherent vision, and completely unmotivated team members rotted the whole thing from within. For once, EA seems to have been telling the truth when they said it "failed to meet quality standards."
Source?

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I like big ones

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>>46360936

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=20462

Shortly after the game's cancellation, a bunch of the devs started posting in the comments of this article. The dominant narrative that emerges is as I described. A couple of them claim that a few of the "creative directors" (of which there were several in succession) were actively trying to sabotage the project rather than have a broken game released with their names attached.

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The Madsen is very under rated.

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I love this thing.

>>46361117
Beautiful. I can't thank you enough for this find.

>>46359926
>>46360220
its the KS-23, a russian 23mm shotgun made from discarded ZPU-23 anti aicraft gun barrels.

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>>46361265
>tfw the large cinema in the city is showing Blade Runner (final cut) on only two occasions in april.

Feels good, man. Pic unrelated.

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>>46361312

No problem, mate. The more people who know exactly how EA operates, the better.

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>>46360206

>You will never have 70s-80s-early 90s era gun technology again.
>No more garage tinkering crazy concepts when we can just slap rails and shit on an AR or AK platform.

>>46361470

I'm not sure you know what you're talking about.

>>46361658
He's talking about shit like
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Combat_Rifle

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>>46356449
The true way to purge™

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>>46356474
>>46356820
>>46357187
>>46357600
>>46357827
>>46358358
>>46358364
I like how people love these slim, bare bone stock and that general skeleton look overall (no sarcasm intended)

I honestly think that all futuristic guns are stocky, stupid and should pay more effort to resemble real guns in some believable manner, what's the deal with making the loading chamber bulky as shit with ton of gizmos attached to it?

Like this piece of crap

>>46361877

I'm familiar with the various oddball projects of the era.

I'm also familiar with other trends which suggest the era of tinkering is far from over. There's been all kinds of weird shit happening in ammo & ballistics the last couple of decades, to name just one example.

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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gowc3DT_nbQ

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>>46362068

Oh hey, that's the M16 Mk II Pulse Rifle, used by both GDI and Nod troops during the Second Tiberium War.

Westwood was never very good at creative military designations.

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>>46362068
What's the point of having a gun you can bend with bare hands?

>>46362428

So you can shoot around corners.
DUH.

>>46361265
Oh, THAT gun

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Hands down my favorite weapon in any media.

>>46362682

Killzone?

>>46362428
So it doesn't limit your vision, weigh you down and be a cumbersome mess of steel and plastic? Like come on, just take like one look at that atrocious mag port on that piece of shit

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>>46362706
Indeed. The StA-52 is the standard issue AR for the Helghast armies.

Good mag size, great stopping power, and comes with a flamethrower, masterkey, or grenade launcher underslung base.

Its amazing.

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Because fuck walls.

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>>46362744
Take a look at your own atrocious mag port

>>46360402
ok i'm not normally a real-world guns kind of guy, but that is one VERY sexy gun.

also, where my /borderlands/ at?

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This thing makes my dick rock hard.

>>46359223
The M2 was never anti tank, it started life as anti aircraft and has stayed there in a reserve role, it is also used for anti personnel and light vehicles.

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Ridiculous shotguns and onate revolvers make me wet.

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I've always been an up close and personal kind of guy, and the Halo shotgun has always been my favorite. The good ol' double barrel from Doom is a close second, though.

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>>46362942

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>>46362942
Jakobs make the nicest-looking guns.

Except for Hyperion Shotguns. Good god, a purple-rarity Hyperion Shotgun with matching parts, HNNNNG.

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>>46362971

>>46362882
But the best weapons in Borderlands aren't guns man.

>>46362980
Always had a thing for Jakobs snipers with Dahl barrels.

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Also, just remembered this beauty. League of Legends is a meh game at best, but god damn do they have excellent character and weapon design.

Look at that double-barreled beauty.

>>46363002
Oh god, Callipeens. I love the Maliwan barrel normally, but it never looked right on a Jakobs. But the Dahl barrel Callipeen. Ohmygodthehotness.

>>46362971

Clicking the thumbnail broke my wrist.
Thanks a fucking lot.

>>46363030
>BUT NOT A CIGAR?!

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A underrated gun, for an underrated game...

>>46362998
and just what are you implying?

>>46363117
Speaking as a Krieg / Gaige / Brick player... Fists and grenades are best.

>>46363093
Don't fucking remind me of the cigar, anon. I still weep.

>>46363135
...fair enough. Fastball is where it's fucking AT.

Can't deny there's some really pretty guns, though. I've always liked the skin on the Maggie. Wish I could get a sniper rifle version.

>>46363262
Some of the Jacobs Shotguns have literally given me a chubby. And Torgue Rocket Launchers. Or Tediore SMGs.

>>46362068
It's to make the weapon look visually distinct. Especially true of film guns, which are usually an actual firearm with stuff stuck to it.

>>46363107

It was just kind of a forgettable game.

Some of it was really neat, I'll admit.

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>>46362882
Dahl had hands down the best guns in that game, even if they weren't generally all that good.

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>>46358839
HELL YEAH MOTHERFUCKER

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>>46356449
It's a gun that has a plane attached to it, what's not to love?

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Would never wager with it, no matter how sure I am

>>46363686
I liked how Dahl guns in BL2 were basically the guns you'd get if you didn't want to play BL2 and just wanted regular guns for a regular shooter. No crazy-ass magic bullets or insane spreads for the most part (there were a few obvious exceptions), just good old fashioned guns.

It's nice to take a step back from all the shotguns firing explosive swords and energy blobbers and just grab a gun and fuck shit up the way Grandpa used to.

>>46356469
That thing's fucking neat looking.

>>46362682
Killzone's weapon design was always top notch.

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I don't get this one, but here it is.

>>46363857
>not man fireable

Sounds like a challenge to me.

>>46360058
34 you can at least tell how its supposed to gun. You grab the only actual handle, hold the rest of the gun however you want along the massive square barrel housing, then stuff the vestigial fin flap thing into your armpit for stability I suppose, while you use psychic powers to phase ammo straight through the casing I guess or maybe the fin contains ammo who fucking knows its an enigma for the ages.

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Most video game guns built around weird gimmick mechanics are fun but kind of suck. This pink beauty has remained relevant and mostly unchanged for six games.

>>46364078
I still remember how OP it was in Halo 2 when you could dual wield and fan their firing to put an absolute fuckload of needles into a person very quickly.

I miss dual wielding in Halo. Fuck Bungie and 343 for taking away something beautiful.

>>46364160

It broke balance and made a lot of guns irrelevant outside of dual-wielding. I miss it too, but it was a better design choice for gun balance.

>>46356815
..so a STORMBOLTER?

>>46363822
>It's nice to take a step back from all the shotguns firing explosive swords and energy blobbers and just grab a gun and fuck shit up the way Grandpa used to.

That's Jakobs, imo. Dahl is more like if you wanted to be playing CoD.

>>46365072
Are you honestly gonna tell me that there isn't some kind of technomagic in this things magazine?

Bandit could also fall under this category, but I guess elemental was too common.

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>>46365189
Forgot my image.

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>>46365189
I like the design optimization put into it.

>>46365208
I still have no idea how these ones actually worked. Like, where are the bullets? As far as I can remember, you replace that WHOLE wheel looking gizmo when you reload, but I see nowhere to actually load rounds into THAT bit.

That out of the way, I was always a sucker for a good Vladof rifle.

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>>46365269
Final design goes a bit overboard, but if we stop near the end it's pretty decent.

Wait a second...

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>>46365307
I think we found an STC.

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>>46363692
>pic related

>>46356533
Does that have holes on the spinney bit where the bullets go? If those are holes wouldn't the gas escape through them?

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Massively powerful mass accelerators a best

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>>46366043

A BEST

>>46362068
Scifi-guns look huge because the propmakers build them by covering a real gun so that the gun can be fired with blanks. (Sometimes this is only the signal when to add a laser beam effects, like they did in Star wars films.)

These days they could probably put some electronic trigger to a slim prop gun and use that to time the fake muzzleblasts/beams properly.

>>46358044
Holy fuck yes. Lever action rifles are glorious things.

>>46366210
Don't tell that to the army.

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The perfect gun for meeting bandits.

>>46366164
>These days they could probably put some electronic trigger to a slim prop gun and use that to time the fake muzzleblasts/beams properly.

Star Trek has been doing that for almost fifty years now.

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Phaser for the win.

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Always been a fan of Emilio Ghisoni's designs. Shame they never did very well outside of a small cult following.

>>46360136
Mah nigga.

>>46356469
this is the first practical gunblade I've seen, pretty cool

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>>46356449

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IT'S TWIN-LINKED

>>46359239
Anon.

An auto cannon is supposed to be a fully automatic, rapid-fire projectile weapon that fires armour-piercing or explosive shells. 20mm at the very least.

>>46358747
Enjoy not hitting shit.

>>46363857
Concept design, no safety features... like we care!

>>46359437
Enjoy your broken wrist.

>>46365277
There are bullets in the axles. Every time you fire the wheel rotates so the next axle is lined up. It's basically just a bunch of magazines with their bottoms glued together. You probably load it through the tops of the mags, just like normal.

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Does anyone else truly enjoy it when a game includes a gun you own in real life?

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Obligatory 2020post

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>>46358925
>mfw still no chance to use it as a setting for my group.

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>>46362068
How this prop was made is a story in of itself.

>Weapons used by the space marines were based on real, fully functional weapons. British armorers used guns they found to be the most reliable when firing blanks and those which looked futuristic. The 'pulse rifles' were created from a Thompson SMG, with an attached forend of a Franchi SPAS-12 shotgun and a Remington 12 Gauge Model 870P receiver with barrel.

And fuck off back to your pansy kraut space shit. I want my guns to look like they are wielded by manly men.

>>46366737
chubby insecure cosplayer chicks are really easy to shag

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Apparently, in the future, bayonets come back in a big way. Emphasis on the 'big.'

>>46369620
You'd have to put something really strong in me to make me even entertain the idea of going near those meatsacks full of daddy issues.

>>46369721
you don't have to marry them m8

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>>46356691
Metro has some insane Weapons.

>>46365269
>cannot thumb over bore with a bolter
full tacticool is impossible

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>>46369738
But I do need to be capable of being aroused.

>>46356449
I know it's airsoft, but goddam, if the first gun on that list doesn't look awesome. Looks like freaking bolter!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMmLMebUCSk

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>>46369755
well if you dont like the chubs, there are also a few attractive cosplayers. with the same mental instability

also, more Metro guns.

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loved this thing in the DLC

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>>46369772
Guess I'd have to arrive early then. All of the conventions in Florida only attract the fat sweaty chubos and washed up dub VAs that haven't been relevant in decades.

>>46369815
>Florida
There's your problem.

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>200 posts in
>no Korobov rifles

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>>46369788
i would love to play these idiots in a full campaign.

>>46369815
Groom them online first, bruh. Don't forget to constantly tell them how great they look.

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>>46368096
>yfw

>>46369877
For what porpoise?

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I really really really like this gun

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>>46369886
i love shottys

>>46358839
This, this shit right here. It's capable of putting out more kinetic energy than the standard modern firearms, each charge pack holds the equivalent of 150 shots, easily rechargeable but most important it's incredibly, incredibly reliable and cheap to mass-produce. Fuck all these over the top, unrealistic Boltguns and Plasma weapons, the Lasgun is the pinnacle of what a proper average Human soldier would actually need in operations.

>>46358951
Nobody wants to be stuck in a cramped little tank with a full size assault rifle on your lap.

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>>46370168
an M4 fits basically anywhere desu

>>46362068
It's because the future is american and american military arms were hopelessly, heartlessly utilitarian for a long stretch, which includes when Aliens got popular. As a result, that aesthetic has stuck with us.

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>>46356449
Best picture I could find

It looks good, but above all I loved the ammo. The reload animation was replacing two AA batteries. Its a laser pistol running on AA batteries, what's not to love

t. Guy who grew up with a game boy

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>>46369864
Hans would be absolutely hilarious as a protagonist. Every problem would be solvable by massive application of heavy firepower.

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>>46370300
Sure, now it does.

Speaking of archaic designs.

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>>46362808
Perfect Dark's gun design makes me hard.

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>>46370424
>this picture

another proof that the soviets hired ork-meks to design their weaponry.

>>46370429
>m4
>archaic
Eh, not really.

>>46370482
I meant that machine pistols came out of a time when the gun you were expected to go into battle with was huge, so to be cooped up in a then-tiny motor vehicle with four guys who all had one was unreasonable.

Since then, I guess it's mostly to facilitate ease of school shootings. I hear they're coming out with one that can kill over a hundred students a minute.

>>46362068
i agree, most futuristic guns are way too bulky.

>>46362682
mah niggah

>>46370550
To my sci-fi eye, I immediately see this as some civilian variety of the E-11, perhaps a hunting version, with synthetic wooden furniture. Of course, the more discerning operator could have one made with real wood furniture, perhaps ithorian, so you know that it has thoughts and feelings while you use it to shoot things.

I'm working on a steampunk setting that's vaguely based on the mid-late 1800s, so this is a lot of very useful stuff. I've spent a long time watching youtube videos of old fat guys talking about colt revolvers, henry rifles, flintlock, matchlock, snider-enfield, mosin-nagant, all that stuff, so it's good to see just some quality artistry and fantasy.

>>46359497
If your magazine don't revolve
you don't deserve to evolve.

I dare everyone to post an ugly gun that revolves

>>46370517
Oh okay.

I agree, machine pistols are incredibly niche, there's no longer a need to issue vehicle crew a shorter than usual weapon and in most circumstances a submachine gun is superior.

>>46370517
What are you going on about bombs have and will always hold the high score for massacres.

>>46369983
>It's capable of putting out more kinetic energy than the standard modern firearms
>kinetic energy
>laser

Wat.

>>46370482
>we upgraded your gun, it is now a castrated sort of Steyr AUG.

>>46370903
Photons have mass

>>46370781
Even submachine guns are on their way out nowadays (or have been for a while if you're looking at eastern equipment). Carbines can be made to be nearly as compact, while also offering better ballistics as well as simplifying your logistics footprint by a significant margin.

>>46369884
More bullets down range faster.

From what I hear, a lot of modern arms designers, possibly militarys, have really embraced the whole ''whoever gets the most bullets on target fastest wins'' idea

>>46370956
They do have momentum, but to get anywhere near the same neighbourhood as a regular old bullet, you'd have to shoot an absolutely absurd amount of them. As in, somewhere in the neighbourhood of the number that hit the earth per secon. At that point you don't even have to worry about the shot's kinetic aspect anymore, because firing a lasgun would be akin to setting off a small nuke or really big regular bomb.

>>46370964
Law enforcement and special forces branches are still going to pick them over weapons that shoot rifle cartridges for hostage rescue and indoor counter terrorism biz because ballistics are a non issue and overpenetration is a thing.

>>46371327
Ah yeah, that's certainly true. I was talking just in a military context.

>>46371327
They make 5.56 rounds that go through drywall less than most pistol rounds now.

>>46359437

>good ol' fashioned high capacity drum
>7 whole rounds until empty
>one in the chamber

>>46371728
Getting decent frangibility and lethality out of a rifle cartridges is hard.

>>46372003
Fuck no it isn't, long guns are much more lethal than handguns and smgs and good ammo for less barrier penetration has been avalable to law enforcement from the late 90's ant to the public from the early 2000's.

>>46371314
Running the math, grabbing 8kgm/s as our typical hunting rifle cartridge momentum, that equals about half a metric ton of TNT. That's such a puny nuke it might not even be possible to build the fucking thing.

But when we're talking about a "kind 12 gauge" recoil gun that hits like the fucking Schwerer Gustav, yeah, I'll let it slide.

Meanwhile the sun hammers us with 4 megatons a second. That fucker be scary.

>>46372003
Combining lethality with poor penetration is hard, since penetration is extremely important to lethality. And when it comes to quick moving shit, the drag forces when trying to move through liquids (or humans) are really good at making shit stop.

>>46362190
Thanks, anon, I needed a fap.

>>46372180

That's a pretty weak hunting round.

>>46360237
Was going to post this, if I ever get something for home defense I want a Delise

>>46374769
>Not getting a Cobray Lady's Home Companion
>With powered cylinder for full-auto fire

Any1 interested in a homemade boomstick thread because I have a big folder and im itching to post?

>>46374947
Please.

>>46356449
Perhaps I'm a bit biased but I really like the SA80 or the "GP" as it was called. Granted the only thing I really have to compare it too is one of the old Enfield bolt actions.

>Tfw you'll never own one
>Tfw I could get a gun but it'll probably take months of fucking around

Isn't it fun living in a nanny state.

>>46356449
Has someone made a new thread for people who still want to go all /k/ in /tg/?

>>46375011
>not remembering it was named the civil servant.

>>46369444
>Ramjet Rifle
How does that work, anyway?

>>46377096
Like this http://i.imgur.com/lOZerzc.png apparently. (Image limit reached)

>>46361247
It's a sexy gun that's still being used in limited numbers today.

>>46377198
>http://i.imgur.com/lOZerzc.png
A gyrojet rifle with ramjet ammo?

>>46377338
It's fired normally, but its bullets have ramjet engines. It's like a two-stage sort of bullet. First the regular chemical propellant begins propelling it, then as the air intake gets heated, it activates the ramjet engine, which further propels it once it's left the barrel.

>>46370381
>join salvatore mob racket.
>give one of the wright children a loaded handgun
>Get a laser pistol
>get it upgraded
>huff a ton of jet
>Run into the Shark club high as a kite and blow Little Jesus's head off

>>46377376
With risk of sounding way too much like a 40kid, isn't that essentially a bolt round?

And 40k does predate CP2020, so yeah.

>>46377429
Bolter uses a gyrojet system, not a ramjet.

And the concept of a two-stage projectile does predate 40k, so yeah

>>46377488
>Bolter uses a gyrojet system, not a ramjet
I was mostly talking about the two-stage system, but well-
>And the concept of a two-stage projectile does predate 40k, so yeah
Really? I'd be very interested of it in that case. I can't find anything on the subject.

>>46377664
Well, ICBMs are a three-stage system, and work off of ballistics science. Scramjets use two-stage systems, and they were first tested in the 1960s. The SHARP weapons project started in 1985, which tested scramjet systems for space use.

>>46377488
>>46377664
Slugs that are launched by means of underpowered powder date back to th 1840s and some german ammo company apparently did produce gyroslugs for use in revolvers during WW2.

>>46365949
it's got some neat animations.
https://youtu.be/Nb5ZbjtcqL0?t=2m47s

>>46358833
Hell yeah macross

>>46377806
You're right, of course. I should have clarified I meant using multi-stage projectiles for firearms. Scramjets and two-stage aviation systems are indeed much older than 40k, but I've never seen them used for small arms or mentioned as developmental prototypes, probably because they'd be horribly complicated for a very minor advantage. Even with today's manufacturing standards they're difficult to get done accurately.

Incidentally, I've found the earliest mention of a two-stage rocket, with a charge to push the rocket out of the nozzle and a rocket to propel it further. It seems to be the Voss Rocket Musket, although the only source on the internet about it is Future Weapons by Kevin Dockery. Everything else is taken from his book.
https://books.google.com/books?id=_BJgKhwD2o4C
Apparently, it's a rocket rammed on top of a regular gunpowder charge, and is ignited by the gas discharge, although it was primarily used for signalling purposes.

The book mentions it's patented (presumably in Denmark), but I can't have a look into the Danish patent database. Somebody might dig up something interesting if they'd look there.

>>46377927
One is a normal slug with underpowered charge, the other a gyrojet. Neither of them is two-stage.

>>46379370
As I said, the United States SHARP project meant to use Scramjet systems for small arms.

>>46379487
The Super High Altitude Research Project was meant as a proof-of-concept for a space gun, and was used for the development of the scramjet and other such high-speed research. The intention was to build a larger "Jules Verne Launcher" which should be able to launch projectiles directly into orbit.

Nothing on scramjets in small arms. Nothing on small arms at all, to be honest. I've found links to an article from 2001 about using scramjets for projectiles and an interesting patent application from 1996 but no mention before that.

But I believe you, and this is a rather interesting topic, so any links you can provide would be appreciated.

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/scramjet-01a.html
http://www.google.com/patents/US5485787
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_High_Altitude_Research_Project