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No Shitbrews Edition

Optional Questions:

>What card do you think is guaranteed a ban next week?
>Assuming Eldrazi is kill, what sideboard cards are you removing?
>What are you hoping gets unbanned? It probably won't. :^)
>If you're an Eldrazi memester, what deck are you moving on to?
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>>46319486
>38% of girls
I call bullshit.
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>>46319541
Out on the west coast it sure feels like that. The last time I drafted there were only 4 girls and three were trannies.

EDH night has almost an even split.
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Kiki chord is love, Kiki chord is life.
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Looking for an izzet stormcrow/scarred puma decklist hook me up niggers
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>>46319503
>>>What card do you think is guaranteed a ban next week?
Eye.
>>Assuming Eldrazi is kill, what sideboard cards are you removing?
I'll stop playing my whole bullshit anti-meta deck.
>>What are you hoping gets unbanned?
FREE DREAD RETURN
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>>46319503
What about good decks? Like this one?
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Eye will be the land that gets banned

Chord will get banned for making creature combo decks too consistent
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>>46319503
Eye gets ban, vesuva quadruples in price and eldrazi still dominates eldrazi summer anyone?
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>>46319561
There are normal girls in my playgroup, one of them being my girlfriend. They're not that uncommon, especially in EDH.

>>46319541
It's pulled straight from Maro's market research. There are many, many more casual players than competitive players after all, so what you see at your LGS or on tourneys doesn't represent the actual market.
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Is legacy merfolk as linear and brain dead as modern merfolk?

Does it only compete because the whole deck can be pitched to Force?
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>>46319647
>linear and brain dead
spotted the memester
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>>46319647

The only difference is you have good disruption in Legacy
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in b4 during and after
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>>46319647
>anything that's not permission counterfest control is linear
Well meme'd
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>Pass turn
>Opponent draws card
>Adds it to hand laying on the table
>Picks up hand
>Taps it on the table
>Fans them out briefly
>Pushes them all back together
>Flicks the top corner of the pile several times
>Flick flick flick flick flick flick flick flick flick flick flick

Every

Fucking

Draw
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>>46319503
>If you're an Eldrazi memester, what deck are you moving on to?
Whatever. Probably Affinity, Merfolk, Kiki-Chord, etc.
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>>46319739
Id take the loss just to tire iron these cunts in the face
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Opinions on my decks?

Reanimator
4 [MMQ:129] Dark Ritual
1 [ZEN:13] Iona, Shield of Emeria
4 [BFZ:249] Sunken Hollow
4 [ODY:132] Entomb
4 [DST:21] Echoing Truth
4 [ODY:70] Careful Study
4 [NPH:6] Chancellor of the Annex
4 [USG:134] Exhume
5 [SOI:289] Swamp
6 [SOI:286] Island
4 [NMS:30] Daze
4 [AVR:106] Griselbrand
4 [ZEN:67] Spell Pierce
4 [TMP:45] Reanimate


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8 Rack
21 [SOI:289] Swamp
4 [RTR:76] Shrieking Affliction
3 [WWK:68] Smother
4 [9ED:115] Blackmail
4 [M12:108] Smallpox
4 [MRD:84] Wrench Mind
4 [M15:122] Waste Not
4 [ISD:124] Victim of Night
4 [FUT:63] Augur of Skulls
2 [TSB:44] Funeral Charm
4 [TSB:113] The Rack
2 [TSB:48] Stupor
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>>46319739
>opponent is "thinking" about their next move
>looks at hand
>shuffles it
>looks at hand
>shuffles it
>looks at hand
>shuffles it
IT'S THREE FUCKING CARDS
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>>46319821
>>Reanimator
Welcome to the Modern General. Stop posting dead format shit.

>8 Rack
It's shit. There's literally nothing you can do against Leyline.
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>>46319677
>>46319702
How is it anything more than just windmill slamming Lords and using vials each turn?
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>>46319821
post lands too.
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>>46319952
>he doesn't understand how the merfolk deck actually operates

PROTIP: If you let a Merfolk player >just windmill slamming Lords and using vials each turn, you're fucking bad
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>>46319580
Post list bruh
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>>46319615
If chord gets banned I'll kill myself
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>>46319952
And I suppose D&T is just using vials and windmill slamming crappy creatures each turn? You can apply the same reductionist logic to every deck and make it seem brain dead. Is that just the way you think?
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>>46319821
Nigga, that reanimator list is straight trash. I'm sure it does good at the kitchen table, but at least get shocks and fetches.
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Why is pic related still $7? It saw little fringe play when it was in standard, 0 play in any other format and its not even played in casual mill
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>>46319615

I play Elves, banning Chord is bullshit. I see WotC doing it though, I'll just go with Lead the Stampede, but still.
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>>46319952
>How is Burn anything more than just windmill slamming Haste creatures and using -3s each turn?
I don't understand how I lose to such a linear and braindead deck :^)
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>>46320133
>>46320196
Merfolk is linear. All you're doing is playing lords, I mean, yeah you can fire off a curse catcher if your opponent fucks up and taps out for a spell, but besides that it's literally just shit your hand out and attack.
Oh and pro tip, spreading seas the land that they only have 1 of.
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>>46320279

PW cards are always automatically 8-10 bucks by default because of collectors and casuals
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>>46320324
Gerard Fabiano actually played it in his Sultai Midrange deck that he did pretty good with. But then again any deck running 4 Lili and 4 goyf can win games.
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>>46319739
>>46319863
>opponent draws
>thinks for 5 mins
>plays a land
>thinks for 5 mins
>holding nothing but counterspells and an 7cmc kraken and 3 land in play
>passes the turn
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>>46319503
I'm brewing RUG Titan right now, I'm running a set of Steve, Search, what else should I be doing?
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>>46320429
Steve?
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>>46320468
Sorry, Sakura-Tribe Elder.
He gets called Steve here for some reason.
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>>46320354
What deck plays a 7 cmc kraken? Also fuck you for judging people who take time, I'm sure by the autistic reaction image you've chosen to use you're probably 15, but aside from that what I'm sure you said is 5 minutes is probably more like 30 seconds which your feeble retarded mind cannot handle.
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>>46320354
I actually got someone for slow play because my opponent was holding priority during my turn, "thinking" about whether or not to cast something. A buddy of mine saw his hand (no instants, no flash), and asked a judge to look at our match. He caught on pretty quickly what was wrong with the situation.
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>>46320505
Rug Titan? I'm assuming that's like scape shift except with prime times, what's your list?
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>>46320505
>He gets called Steve here for some reason.
I can understand that. He does look like a Steve.
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>>46320538
Yes, that's exactly it, and I'm hoping to Pioneer something decent,
It isn't finished sadly.
But it's gonna be running the following as the core.
4 Prime Time
4 Sakura-Tribes
4 Search
4 Valakut (I know, that's a lot)
2 Primatic Omen

and after that I'm kind of lost. Honestly, it's eventually gonna turn into scapeshift, I'm just really fucking broke, and scapeshift is too much money right now.
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>>46320600
4 valakut does seem like a lot, and how broke is broke? Cause cavern of souls is a real nice card.
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>>46320510
Not that guy, but when the match goes to time and I've had priority for less than 10 minutes (and I'M the only one playing a control deck), something's fuckey.
I've had the match time out in game 2, after I've taken game 1, where my opponent at least could have taken the game for tied round if he didn't play like a goddamn sloth. It's not a hard game. If playing fucking Zoo is mental gymnastics to you, please find a new game.
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>>46320657
Cavern of Souls is 30$ too much for even one.
Also, I justify the 4 Valakut with the 2 Prismatic, is that enough?
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>>46320670
If you're playing control, and getting 10 minutes of play time out of 50, then you need to either communicate with your opponent or call a judge for slow play, it's as simple as that. That shit doesn't aggrivate me so much, considering if it does become a problem, I handle the problem, like a normal human being would, not just sit in my chair then cry on the Internet about it
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>>46319503
Unban BBE
[Spoiler] in october
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>>46320758
I really can't help you if your budget is too low for 30 dollar cards. You can get away with running a 2 color budget deck in modern sometimes, but lets be honest you should probably not be running 3 colors.
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>>46320794
What a fail
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>>46320758
Buy Chink fakes
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>>46320806
Alright, let's say I have no budget then and I just want to make this deck work as hard as possible.
What I do?
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>>46320764
>you need to either communicate with your opponent or call a judge for slow play,
Apparently I'm not allowed to call a judge if each of his turns takes less than FIVE minutes (and I do time it). Am I supposed to be nagging him? Am I supposed to tell him exactly what he can do with his hand and field to beat me, that he can't figure out for himself no matter how long he takes? What outs do I have, barring telling someone with a $1500 deck exactly what to do and why?
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>>46320794
Why not just give them DRS and hymn, just so we don't even feel like we have a chance of winning. I mean with just BBE, we might go 2-1 if we're lucky but at least if we just make it legacy jund with shocks we can never win any matches.
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>>46320848
Don't be that bitchy, the fair decks need a push to win against uninteractive goldfishing that is now the meta and BBE is the safest ban
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>>46320838
I'd say go 2 colors, cause all the blue cards you might want are kind of pricey, so just go RG. Then I'd just make it like a RG midrange sort of deck, with ramp and a slightly higher curve. The question is though do you really want to go 3 colors?
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>>46320600
>I'm hoping to Pioneer something decent
No need. Behold!
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-r-g-through-the-breach-25041#paper
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>>46320322
Pretty sure you'd be a shit merfolk pilot, in addition to being a free win for people who do.
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>>46320884
If by fair decks, you mean making Jund into value pound town then yes. Jund is good enough already. What other deck would even play this?
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>>46320933
Rug delver
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>>46319642
>my girlfriend
NORMIE GET OUT
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>>46320933
Unban SFM and give uwr-junk a toy too,
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>>46320925
Yeah this seems like a decent start, but if I were you I'd go for a midrange kind of game rather than the ramp into TTB into emrakul.
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>>46320947
Doesn't that curve out at 2? I really feel like you don't ever want to see this in a 1 lander that you want to keep otherwise with rug delver.
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>>46320947
that doesn't sound quite right
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>>46320840
http://blogs.magicjudges.org/articles/2012/12/25/slow-play/
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>>46319503
What modern needs:
Ban eldrazi
Unban SFM, BBE, Preordain, Sword of the meek
Reprint Counterspell
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>>46319609
>8 of the 20 lands in deck are fetchlands

Please explain to a casual player what makes these fetchlands so damn good that most decks seem to have more fetches than lands to actually fetch
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>>46321041
>However, the R&D clearly stated that the outcome of a game of Magic should be decided by cards being played and not by a conjecture that requires a degree in Mathematics.

Fucking casuals ruining magic, go out and get your fucking doctorates and we can finish this game
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>>46321092
fetchlands get whatever shock you need
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>>46321092
If you ask this, you're in the wrong thread
Go back to casual please
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>>46321092
Because 8 fetchlands turns a 60 card deck into an effective 52 card deck. If you don't have your Maths degree, that means you're more likely to draw cards you need.
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>>46321092
>draw a regular land and play it, only have access to whatever color that land is

>draw a fetchland, now you can decide what land you want, on top of thinning two cards out of your deck now and increasing the odds that you'll draw the stuff you want on curve
>also get to trigger landfall ETB twice

Literally everything.
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>>46320510
>it takes people 30 seconds to decide what to do
No, it doesn't. Professional players are more than capable of acting within 30 seconds with board states that would make you shit your brain out of your ears because you are so retarded. It's called an "evolving game state". Your board isn't the way it is because of some spontaneous reverse Wrath of God. You should have been paying attention to how your board got to the state it's currently in, and then react in a meaningful way.

>>46320840
>Apparently I'm not allowed to call a judge if each of his turns takes less than FIVE minutes
Who said this? Your opponent? Fuck him. Your opponent would say 'You need to concede to me or you'll get DQ' if he thought he could get away with it. If a judge said this, call for a different judge, or appeal. If he's the only judge at the store and this is FNM or something, then ask him what better things he has to do, besides smoking pot during the round?
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>>46321092
They thin your deck (negligible), and they , you know, fetches lands (important). Without fetchlands, you're forced to rely on drawing the right color lands to cast your spells in the right order. They do other stuff too, like fill your graveyard for stuff that cares about that (goyf, delve cards, w/e), or shuffle your library after a brainstorm.
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>>46321141
don't tell the noobs to run fetchlands for deck thinning

someone actually did some maths and in a regular (read: not Jeskai Ascendancy shit) game the deck thinning won't change a single draw in like 95+% of games
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>>46321141
>>46321143
Friendly reminder that the deck thinning provided by fetchlands is statistically insignificant.
They do really help smooth out your manabase, though.
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>>46321166
>13% is negligible
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>>46321160
>Who said this? Your opponent?
The local judge.
>If he's the only judge at the store and this is FNM or something, then ask him what better things he has to do, besides smoking pot during the round?
He's usually playing in his own tournament, and is only really around to answer rules questions and facilitate pairings.
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>>46321176
You're right m8. I'm sure Tutors, and 'Draw a Card' effects are worthless mathematically as well. :^)
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>>46321092
>>46321143
>puts a card in the graveyard
>free shuffle effect
>wasteland shield
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>>46321176
>>46321193
They effect over 1 in 10 pulls. That's significant to me.
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>>46321200
If he's an official judge in a sanctioned event, and won't do his job, report him to Wizards. Doubly so if he's the only judge around and playing in his tournament. What happens if his opponent needs a judge call?
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>>46321218
are you running tutors and card draw for deck thinning?

>>46321218
no they don't
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>>46321176
>>46321193
>Deck Thinning via Fetchlands provides a 1-4% higher chance of drawing a spell over a land.
You do know that more "significant" deck choices are made with similar if not worse deck odds?

For example: Horizon Canopies in G/W are ~1% improvements per $100+ card to the deck's chance of winning. The only people who think 1-4% better chances of winning are insignificant are the casual paupers who don't want to spend the money on objectively better cards.
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Would a card like this help to balance the modern meta?
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>>46321316
You again.
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>>46321316
Fuck off
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>>46321316
leave this general and never come back
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>>46321316
Here is your (You)
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>>46321307
I am not advocating to not run fetchlands god damn

I am saying don't tell people to run them because they thin your deck, run them because they are the best lands ever printed
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>>46321316
F U C K
O F F
To your containment thread
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>tfw I think the old card frame looked better and more elegant than the newer ones.
>tfw they are only getting worse.
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>>46321375
Arguably, they contend with duals
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>>46321316
Back to the containment thread >>46311183
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>>46321392
I would say they are close to the same level, but instead of arguing, just go play legacy and run them both
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>>46321307
The thing is, fetchlands actually have a downside. You don't see people running them in Legacy Death & Taxes just for the thinning effect, because it helps you less than the loss of life hurts you, unless you are also benefiting from the increased consistency of your manabase.
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>>46321316
Hey, I like your card.
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>>46321416
Legacy has all the nice things, why can't modern be the same? Inb4 nobody else plays legacy on my lgs
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>>46321449
To this day I still cannot comprehend the art.
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>>46321307
There is a 1-4% chance you are a miserable cunt whos life revolves aound a card game
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>>46321453
Because then it would just be legacy.
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>>46321497
If legacy were affordable, why should we play modern?
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>>46321453
I just don't appreciate Legacy as a format. The fast decks are faster, the combo decks are both more reliable and easier to hate, and the grindy decks aren't fun to play. Modern is my happy medium.
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>>46321307
1-4% increased chance of drawing a spell, 5-50% closer to death. If you're running it SOLELY to thin your deck (in some kind of monocolor deck that doesn't care about lands in graveyard or being able to shuffle on command), then the life loss is more likely to be relevant than the deck thinning.

Deck thinning is just one of the incidental benefits you get if you're using fetches for what they're actually good for.
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>>46321449
Are you watching this thread wizards?

Goyfs in each color please TarmoGoyf, TarmoBoyf, TarmoUofy, TarmoRoyf and TarmoWoyf
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>>46321520
We wouldn't. Though I suspect there are some players who hate the color blue and everything it stands for.
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>>46321521
>I like Middling Shit: the Format
You should just have admitted you're a poorfag instead of looking like a sad clown.
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>>46320931
Explain, mermaster
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>>46321449
Goyf still has never been printed in a set, it was from a "preview"set then 2 compilations unless wizards knew it was going to be a modern staple and printed it as its future self from mm1 or mm2 both sets purely baased on selling that single card and 99% shit you couldnt draft with, maybe mm3 will just be called "Maybe goyf goyim 3" so goyf in standard when?
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>>46321596
I've played legacy and vintage in paper as well as online. It's just not my cup of tea.

What'll you do next, insult my taste in music?
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>>46321521
>the grindy decks aren't fun to play
>he doesn't know about Parfait
>he doesn't cast Ancestral Recall every upkeep
>he doesn't have maindeck RIP for dredge shitters
>he doesn't cockblock combo decks with Orim's Chant
>he doesn't make DnT and Maverick kids cry with Humility
>he doesn't slam Blood Moon on 12-Post and 4C Delver players
>he doesn't kill people with a single Belcher activation on turn 15
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>>46321757
Some people enjoy the taste of shit in their mouth. Just look at how much scat porn there is.
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>>46321766
That actually looks pretty fun. And minus three moxes (which are pretty cheap), I literally already own this deck. Guess I'll find a local legacy place to try it out.
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>>46321766
>5.5MB
>5000x3000
That's a whole lot of deck I don't care about.
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>>46321624
On a snap move not wanting to harm sales on a currently in print set, wizards ban tron lands and cranial plating causing sales of OGW to soar and return on investment for investors to be in the black for the first time since the reserve list

Alternatively they open up bannings to the public and you can vote on what you want banned at the measly price of $5 per vote, got a spare million dollars? Ban non basic lands for the lulz

Wizard of the Coast: its like that abusive husband you keep going back to

Buy more packs - MaRo
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>>46321875
What are you, too poor for internet? Is 5 megabytes more than you can fit under your poorfag bandwidth cap?
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>>46321885
If that were to happen I'd invest the money I didn't spend on cards, in spambots to spam MaRo with "Jacetice League" until he killed himself.
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>>46321900
I just wonder why people post hi-res pictures of shitty decks.
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>>46321900
Reported Global Rule 3 no off topic posts outside of b

Also anyone brewing Titi decklists yet? It has to have a shell somewhere that isnt storm
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>>46321875
>>46321947
I COULD have scaled the picture down and converted it to a jpg on my computer. But it's more fun to bother people like you by posting the full 5mb browser killer.
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>>46321964
Global Rule #7: Replying to a thread stating that you've reported another post is also not allowed.

TitI will be playtested by everybody, but I guarantee it will be underwhelming. Nobody plays Bolt anymore, it has no protection from destroy effects, and even putting it back in a player's hand past turn 5 with bounce is a death sentence.
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Eldrazi will most likely survive once eye is dead and the prices will spike again, question is do i pick up cards now before the banning? They have already dropped so much and a have a few $100 worth of points on puca, i could at least play it in legacy if it doesnt have a comeback
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>>46319607
>complains about anti meta deck
>wants dread return unbanned

Damn nigga you dumb
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>>46321176
Idk man, if I get 2 lands out of my deck and I'm on the draw, and there's now 48 cards in my deck rather than 50, let's say 18 are now lands. That means that in the game where I have fetched I have a 37.5% chance to draw a land rather than a 40% chance to draw a land. Let's say in the scenarios where I'm firing off fetches I don't want land. That's 2.5% better than if I hadn't fetched, and that's a very common occurance, and most likely I'll be playing more fetches as the game goes on. But if just by playing 2 fetches I have increased my chance to draw a spell by 2.5%, then after 40 draws then I have essentially guaranteed myself a spell drawn over a land. I'm assuming that in a regular series that goes to 3, and that's not accounting for any other fetches, I have has at least 40 draws, unless I'm playing burn or the like. If every series I'm able to guarantee drawing a spell rather than a land by just playing 2 fetches, if not more which improve my odds even higher, then yeah that is definitely a card I want to be playing. Not even to mention the other benefits, but to say it's insignificant is totally wrong just by the quick calculations I've made here, and I'm sure if I went deeper into it I could find how when a game goes longer and you Crack even more fetches you're absolutely gaining a significant advantage had you not been playing fetches. I think you're wrong and you should retract your statement.
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>>46322063
I'd do it.
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>>46322096
I'm complaining about PLAYING an anti-meta deck, specifically because of Eldrazi. If the archetype takes a hard enough hit I can go back to playing real decks.
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>>46322063
Hold off on the eyes get the rest, day after eye ban bam $5 each again then hope they print some emrakul related eldrazi in EM or you just lost all your money
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>>46322063

Pick up your TKS, Mimics, temples and Smashers on rock bottom prices. Vrsuva is a hard gamble but if they ban rye, chances are Vesuva will skyrocket. The important thing is the core drazi parts are at cutthroat prices right now
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>>46321766
I would literally destroy this deck. I run sneak and show and I honestly see no way in which you could beat me.
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>>46322130
2.5% is literally irrelevant

and drawing nonlands isn't even a complete upside, you often need to draw land
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about the deck thining and fetches tehre is this old article
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/print.asp?ID=3096

>>46320354
when you have opponents like that you can tell them to speed up their play.

if that doesn't work call a judge ask them to talk to you in private tell them about the slow play and ask for a time extensions.
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>>46322171
But you want dread return unbanned?
Dredge is 1000x worse than eldrazi could ever be.
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>>46322335
Lol go away Maro
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>>46322247
>2.5 percent of every draw is irrelevant.
You realize 2.5% is pretty much the likeliness of drawing a card as a 4 of rather than a 3 of right? Completely irrelevant right lmao.
Also I already said that's assuming we don't want to draw land considering we played 2 fetches immediately.
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>>46322236
Vesuva already spiked its $25 on jewcitygames
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>>46322335
Dredge can be hated literally for free. Surgical Extraction, Faerie Macabre. For a bit of mana, Extirpate. Fucking dredge's gameplan is piss easy.
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>>46322379
2.5% is actually irrelevant though
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>>46322240
>Humility
>Chant -> O-Ring Emrakul
>Needle on Sneak Attack or Griselbrand
>STP Griselbrand, then outgrind you with my own CA
>Helm one of your fatties
That list is a bit old, too. In my current list I have Isochron Scepter MD instead of Cursed Scroll, and Nevermore in the side instead of Solitary.
It's not the best combo MU for me, but hardly unwinnable.
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>>46322435
(You)
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>>46322435
How the fuck is 2.5% irrelevant?
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>>46322482
so you would rather have 2.5% chance to draw a nonland than 2 life

aight
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>>46322384
Glad i got my ftv foils for $8 a few months back
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>>46322491
Absolutely
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>>46322525
>ftv foils
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>>46322491
Why do I care about my life total against decks like sneak and show, grishoalbrand, or even storm (arguably storm is the one that cares most about life total of those, but I would much rather have a smoother manabase and better draws). Even against Eldrazi, I'd rather have the benefit of fetches over trying to run a shoddy manabase. The thinning is just extra icing on the cake.
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>>46322426
Just because it can be hated upon doesn't mean people want to fucking play against it. The same argument to hate-out Eggs exists, and nobody wants to fucking play against that deck.

It's bad enough that horseshit like Affinity, Burn, Infect, and Boggles exists where people just dump their hand onto the battlefield - and none of them have a universal hate even though the decks operate identically. I've ended games with and against those decks in less time it takes us to shuffle. I'm not interested in introducing Dredge just to have an even more non-interactive deck in the format.

I think that's the best argument against the eternal formats. Sometimes you'll show up at FNM or something for a night of Modern/Legacy and spend maybe 20 minutes playing.
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>>46322561
Well, first of all this is the modern format, and we're talking about a format where 2 life can be very relevant.
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I really want to shitbrew pic related, cant be impossible to to 7 damage in a burn shell by turn 4 (maybe 3 with ssg)
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>>46322489
statistically speaking you are not going to see that extra non-land draw into you are past turn 10 which is too late for modern. you will lose 3 life due to fetches in order to get that extra non-land draw.

deck thinning as an extra bonus to having better mana base and the like is ok but running fetches only for deck thinning is silly.
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>>46322628
I never made the argument of running fetches solely for deck thinning. I said the deck thinning while miniscule isn't entirely irrelevant
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>>46322247
>2.5% is irrelevant
How many games do you play in a tournament? A lucky topdeck can win a game easy, and if you can manipulate it 1 in 25 games then that is significant.
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>>46322480

Your in every fucking mtg thread shilling your shitty fucking deck

Parfait is shit, it's not even tier 2.5

as a storm player, I would love to be paired against you, I haven't lost a single game to Parfait and I've been playing long enough to have played at least 6-7 poor fags like you

>still better than miracle shitters
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>>46322254
>>46322379
>>46322435
>>46322489
>>46322491
>>46322561
>>46322614
>>46322628
>>46322663
>>46322664
Maybe if you people worked on thinning yourselves instead of thinning your decks you would have a female companion to argue with instead of arguing with neckbeards on 4chan :^)
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>>46322722
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>>46319739
>tfw I trigger people by the way I handle my cards
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>>46322722
But I'm fat and I have a girlfriend and she's probably more attractive than any girl you could ever get, what now?
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>>46319739
>>46319863

Jesus Christ you autistic fuckers

Did you ever think that maybe it's just a habit?

Personally I do it to help myself think and it makes it easier to bluff because I'm not obviously staring at one card but if I ever saw someone getting this triggered over it I would do it even more and as obnoxiously as possible
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>>46322700
Thank you friend, no one likes this fag and he deserves it.
>ancestral recall every turn
Have you ever heard such a pompous retard?
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>>46319739
Hand shuffling is the stupidest fucking twitch meme there is. What triggers me is the autists at FNM hand-shuffling all of a sudden, when you've seen them not doing months ago.

Last Friday I was playing against a 14/15 year old (playing budget burn, lel) and he was doing this shit. I asked him why he did it, and the response was "so you don't know what I'm drawing or considering". I told him he's playing burn, and he has a spell that deals 3 damage to me and a mountain. He slowed down on the random shuffling after that.
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>>46322722
(You)
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>>46321087

This isn't remotely reasonable
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>>46322900
please let that not be a real edit
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>>46322900
>those are valid arguments though.
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Just reinstalled Cockatrice after not playing for a while. Need to replace the Treasure Cruises, and tweak anything else. Critique is welcome.
Do you guys prefer tappedout links or are lists like this fine?
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>>46322900
>I bullied a a kid
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>>46322900
10/10 post
1/10 pic
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>>46322955
:^)
>>46322864
>>46322960
No, it's not. And the easiest way to tell is to watch the hand-shuffling opponent, who isn't even looking at you to gleam the information they're desperately trying to protect against. The information you need is available on the board.

They're doing it because their favorite esports celebrity is doing it.
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>>46322964
throw the entire thing in the garbage
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>>46322848
Oh shit you got me bro, ill just keep living my lonely existence
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>>46323021
>pukingloli.png
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>>46323037
Damn right you will you fucking loser.
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>>46323021
I just do it cause its a habit. If you asked me why I hand shuffle I'd tell you that it's just a habit. And if you persisted to be a nosey little cunt I'd tell you to fuck off.
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Best alter
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>>46322900
I have a twitching problem. I drum fingers across the table, my leg shakes, sometimes I chew on my nails. And I know it bothers people so I expend every ounce of energy to not do it in public. The one tic I did not pick up was shuffling my hand like you see people do. I just put my hand down and just place my hands on the table. If they do something I just flip over the relevant removal or countermagic and tap my lands.

I have a predisposition to do that awful stuff and I find it annoying myself.

I suspect the reason why this shit is so rampant is because the people who play Magic don't have a lot of courtesy to begin with. Some people don't play with sleeves so it's obvious which cards in their deck are lands due to wear. Some people leave their fucking wrappers and food garbage all over the place at the end of each night. Some people don't push in their chairs. Some people just crack their packs and leave the dregs on the floor. Worse than all this is when people stack their lands in two piles: tapped and untapped - I want to see how many fucking lands you have and what they are; stop hiding them.

The shuffling motions are just another stupid piece of flourish bullshit to make a person look more fancy than they are.
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>>46323021
paying 25 for a ruined card when it was going to be reprinted 11 days later
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>>46323082
*raises hand*
JUDGE!
USC, he told me to fuck off.
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>>46323032
Actual advice is welcome as well
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>>46323107
>Some people don't play with sleeves
I think this is the most triggering thing of all. Especially when they mash. And it's not Limited.
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>>46323021
But they are valid. If someone draws a card, then play the card as a land, you know that the card they drew is a land. Of if someone brainstorms, and put two of the three cards he drew back, then decides to crack a fetchland, you would gather that the brainstorm didn't really give him anything good, or that his hand is better then the cards he got from brainstorm. Sure, maybe the information doesn't matter, but it could.
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>>46323149
That is actual advice. Go post in the Casual thread.
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>>46323149
throw the entire thing in the garbage except for the remands and play U Tron
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>>46323167
>tfw you're so autistic that you mentally counting the flicks, noting that they're shuffling in a non-random pattern, and know if they're playing their topdeck land or not anyways
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>>46323163
I don't care if they don't care about the value of their stupid cardboard. What I care about is their flagrant disregard for how they know exactly what they're drawing next turn because their lands are obviously more worn than their non-lands.

If you're new at the game fine. I'll let it slide because you're probably not willing to spend $5 or whatever it costs for 100 sleeves. But there's this faggot at my store who consistently does not play with sleeves and he does it to piss off people who can't stand seeing fetchlands or whatever get mashed around like that. And time and time again people have tried to explain that they're angry because he knows whether or not he's going to draw a fucking land or not each turn but he basically just goes, "u mad?" like he's succeeding in pissing us off.

It's just too much to fucking ask that people conduct themselves in some respectable manner. This doesn't just apply to Magic, anytime you go somewhere in public to do shit there are always faggots abound. I don't do shit without my friends or friends of friends. Trying to make friends from a pool of strangers is fucking suffering.
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>>46323206
You could easily tell by just looking at your opponent, you retard, but at least you admit you're wrong.I don't do any of that btw, nor do I hand shuffle, except after I draw. I'm just telling you why people hand shuffle and you act like they just do it because it makes them look fucking "pro" or whatever. Who is more autistic?
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>>46323282
Call a judge for marked cards?

If it's casual play, just don't play with him.
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>>46322900
>>46323021
>Used Panty Praetor
Going in the spank bank for later
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>>46322878
>>ancestral recall every turn
>Have you ever heard such a pompous retard?
That's a very accurate description of what the Parfait engine does, though. It's one mana for three cards, every upkeep as long as Land Tax triggers.

>>46322700
>Your in every fucking mtg thread shilling your shitty fucking deck
Anon said the grindy decks in Legacy were lame, I gave him an alternative.

>Parfait is shit, it's not even tier 2.5
Tiers are pretty meaningless in Legacy. Even fringe archetypes like Aluren, Pox, and 12-Post have powerful strategies and cardpools. Parfait and Mighty Quinn are no exception.

>as a storm player, I would love to be paired against you, I haven't lost a single game to Parfait and I've been playing long enough to have played at least 6-7 poor fags like you
Good for you, anon. In my experience I haven't had any trouble beating fast combos if I mulligan correctly.
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>>46323304
I didn't admit anything.

I'm willing to wager my entire collection that the majority of hand shufflers are only hand shuffling because the prevalence of online streaming and youtube videos has shown pro players hand shuffle. Out of that pool of players, I would also wager that the majority of these players will parrot the response that it "randomizes your hand".

My evidence for this claim is that I have observed people, at my local game store, pick up hand shuffling. Most notably when my LGS would stream Twitch channels on their big screen when match results/pairings/timers weren't being displayed. It is easily monkey-see monkey-do; before the prevalence of broadcasted games, people weren't fucking doing it, you newfag. Maybe instead of staring awkwardly at the table all Friday night, you look up at your opponent and your surroundings once in a whiile.

>You could easily tell by just looking at your opponent, you retard
I'll turn that back on you, thanks for admitting you're wrong, and that hand shuffling actually serves no legitimate purpose. The truly autistic one is the one who didn't see the joke in that post you quoted. :^)
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Has anyone on here fucked woth a bant painted bellower list? Seems interesting enough to me.
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>>46323318
There's no fucking judge out here man. He's been warned and he just keeps doing it.

Problem is, he constantly brings new people into the store to play. Store owner can't fucking stand him either but can't fucking lose the players who were brought in by this guy.

And I fucking put that on Wizards. So many stores cannot afford the attrition from players who look at the pricetag of a Standard deck and say, "fuck it". Not only do stores constantly have to fucking deal with socially inept nerds they have that pressure on them by Wizards to fire events on schedule or lose Wizards pricing. That combined with people bitching about the price of product (Canada's first world problems) compared to American prices and nobody knows what fucking MSRP is. All players know is what they read on Reddit and Reddit is one massive circlejerk about how generous stores are in big fucking cities with dozens of people turning out for FNM consistently.

I've quit showing up to Magic. It's gotten too hard. I fucking love this game so much and I can't put up with these people anymore.
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>>46323419
Feel your pain bro, some places here in Oz are asking $7 a pack for SoI average is around $180 a booster box for new sets that and only fucking asians play you know how hard it is to avoid certain shitxunt players when they all look the fucking same, short black hair and glasses and they all shout "interupt" when they want to counter your spell
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>>46323419
How far are you from a city? I ask because I legitimately commute ~40 mins to the city to play FNM at one of five stores firing something for that very reason. It's something I am used to because of other niche nerd hobbies, but I wouldn't play at the local store ever again because it's the same pool of players playing janky homebrews they pulled from the Draft the week prior.
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>>46323398
>I'll turn that back on you, thanks for admitting you're wrong, and that hand shuffling actually serves no legitimate purpose.
Either you've failed to comprehend my post, or I was unclear.

>and that hand shuffling actually serves no legitimate purpose
What I mean is, If they hand shuffled, then you wouldn't be able to tell what they draw simply by looking at your opponent.

> before the prevalence of broadcasted games, people weren't fucking doing it, you newfag
>newfag
Holy shit son, you sure got me. Got anything?

>Maybe instead of staring awkwardly at the table all Friday night, you look up at your opponent and your surroundings once in a whiile.
Nice projecting. Besides, that's one of the reasons why people hand shuffle, so you can't get information by looking at them.

>My evidence for this claim is that I have observed people, at my local game store, pick up hand shuffling.
Only someone legitimately autistic would actually care so much about this as to complain about it on a mongolian imageboard. But keep complaining about it, I find it entertaining.
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Am I a filthy heretic for considering replacing Crusader of Odric with Hanweir Militia captain in my deck? Also considering removing midnight haunting for 4 Thalia's Lieutenant. Opinions?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/odrics-army/
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Can we stop using this thread for our personal blogs? Jesus Christ you're all retarded.
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>>46323601
No.

Who is more autistic... the people who handshuffel or the people who use unironic anime alters?
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>>46323601
This is how dead the format is, modern generals are for alters, shitbrews and complaining only, o javent even played a game since bfz came out, i just come here because there is never a standard general and i like watching dudes rub their dicks against each other
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>>46320505
>He gets called Steve here for some reason.
Steel Overseer has always been Steve around my area.
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>>46323526
I live in a city man. Only one store. The nearest store is another hour away in the next city but there's no fucking way I'm losing two hours to drive there and back to play Magic. It's hard enough to drive to make it to Magic on time locally.

Not my problem anymore. /tg/ is my Magic family now. It's less offensive and more enjoyable talking about Magic here than in real life.
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>>46323580
Yes replace it then use the black cleric tokens to sacrifice to westvale abbey, turn 5 lil niggers into 1 big daddy nigger
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>>46323580
Orzhov Blackrifice.dec
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>>46323419
>about how generous stores are in big fucking cities with dozens of people turning out for FNM consistently

me and my friends ignore like 3 or so stores that are closer because there is another store that is like that. it is not part of a big city though. It is generally worth the extra drive if the store is good enough.

I'm at college right now but back home there is a store that is a 5 min drive from home but I would probably prefer to take the 40min-1 hour drive 1-way to go to the channel fireball store or another store

>>46323580
I say you should go GW as you gain Knight of the Reliquary, Mayor of Avabruck, Eternal Witness, gavony township and some other stuff. vial is also good for the deck.

If you are on a budget than your list is fine but add the lieutenant

>>46323705
that sounds like a horrible game plan in modern.
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>>46323619
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>>46323741
>prefer to take the 40min-1 hour drive 1-way
Seriously? To save how much money? How much money do you spend on Magic to get a savings on a trip like that.

There is no way when in college, summer vacation or now that I can justify burning two hours just to get a deal on Magic. The gas and personal time is not worth it.
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>>46323791
my local store back home sucks as and does not have modern which I care about.

In my college town the drive is not as long but we pass up like 6 closer stores because the one we go to has free to enter events that payout in store credit and we normally get 30-45 players for modern. standard gets 20-30 players
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>final round playing blue moon mirror
>shackles version vs. spreading seas version
fun mirror. took it 2-1 because i was incidentally better equipped for that mirror with maindeck mom&dad, shackles, and teferi out of the board.
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>>46321316
EVERYONE! GET IN HERE!
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>>46323388

Except your "ancestral recall" requires a two mana artifact, a one mana enchant and your opponent to have more than one land on the field, something that surprising few decks actually need

And it's not even the fact that you play parfiat, that's fine, it's the part that literally anytime anyone posts anything even remotely related to legacy you post that fucking picture and shill your deck, your either autistic or you work for SCG, possible both
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>>46323619
i get it cuz he snaps to cast his magic xD anime
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>>46323924
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>>46320354
>Those faggots who take more than 30s to use top
At that point is when I know I can go 1000-0 against him blindfolded and drunk.
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>>46323949
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>>46323974
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>>46323904
Hey buddy I think you got the wrong door, your personal blog is two blocks down.
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>>46323184
No. I don't want advice for a casual environment.

/tg/ is awful now I guess.
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>>46324187
I was going to give you advice, but then I realized that >>46323201 is right. You are basically playing bad U Tron.

Honestly though, get some Wurmcoils, expand the artifact theme with Thirst for Knowledge and ways to tutor for your extraplanar lens, run better counters (ie Condescend), cut random 1 ofs.
If you're going to play jank, at least play well tuned jank instead of a pile of different deck ideas going in three different directions.
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>>46324276
Thanks man, I guess I'll look at blue tron for spell ideas.
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>>46324311

Blue Tron is the king of durdle. It beats around the bush but when it goes online, it becomes really dominant. Only reason it's not so popular is because it just folds to infect and burn especially. It also has a bad matchup with RG Tron
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>>46324187
>doesn't want advice for a casual environment
>posts a deck fit for a casual environment
/tg/ is not awful. You are awful. You could post this on Salvation, TappedOut, or Reddit and be told the exact same thing, although the latter will circlejerk you and say "it's not bad, but it will never win on turn 4 in a turn 4 format"
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>>46321474
Here ya go Anon.
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Why are people reacting to this card so negatively? I don't play tournaments, only casual, so I can appreciate that some cards aren't great in tourny play. but judging by the reactions I'm seeing people are having over this card you'd think it was the absolute worst piece of shit ever. Are people just overreacting before seeing how the Shadows over Innistrad mechanics will play out?
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>>46321474
it's this guy with a bigger set of mandibles and holding a dude in his hand
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>>46323974

That is actually cute, and the staff is very nicely done
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>>46324454
Well, considering this thread is about modern, I can guarantee this guy is absolute garbage and should never be played.
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>>46321115
>Fucking casuals ruining magic, go out and get your fucking doctorates and we can finish this game

You don't need a doctorate to see that any loop taken to infinity will at some point produce every possible set of parameters needed to make things like 4 horsemen viable.
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>>46324594
I was being facetious, but I actually agree, given an infinite series all outcomes will eventually happen, that makes sense to pretty much everyone

I much prefer the reverse horseman though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQMmmZgTL_Q
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>>46324594
It's not that 4 horsemen might never win, it's that you cannot shortcut to the state where it does. It's impossible to say when the loop will end and what that end looks like. By the rules chosen this kind of play isn't allowed.
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>>46319739
Hahahahahaha guilty. Every time.
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>>46319503
No legacy/Vintage thread
My friends play modern casually, but have been customising their decks for eternal formats because of eldrazi.
Should I play Tin Fins, 12 Post or brew some Lotus > Channel > Emrakul t1 bullshit?
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>>46324642
>It's impossible to say when the loop will end

But we know that given enough loops we will eventually see the desired outcome, which is mill 3 narcos and a dread return and a wincon+hasty guy before emrakul shuffles the deck, in fact it should be less than 60 iterations.

>and what that end looks like

WRONG, if you just said mill until 59 cards mill and no emrakul trigger, that's an end state you can state with perfect certainty and you can know the probability distribution and law of large numbers.
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>>46324454
Because the card is bad
Modern is a format of turn 3-5 wins
How are you meant to cast that thing?
Plus, it dies to lightning bolt, which every red deck has
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>>46324740
>But we know that given enough loops we will eventually see the desired outcome, which is mill 3 narcos and a dread return and a wincon+hasty guy before emrakul shuffles the deck, in fact it should be less than 60 iterations.
What is the state of the yard and deck at that time? You can't shortcut to it because not all info is known.
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>>46324454
>Black people in Victorian Europe setting
kek
way to go SJW of Wizards
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>>46324740
>WRONG, if you just said mill until 59 cards mill and no emrakul trigger, that's an end state you can state with perfect certainty and you can know the probability distribution and law of large numbers.
How many iterations of the loop are there? If you can't answer this, you can't shortcut to it.
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>>46321207
Simple, yet effective, art.
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>>46321092
They allow you to fix mana
Say if you're playing 4 or 3 colours, if you draw a blue fetch, you can get any blue land that is an island
Which, if your deck is mostly blue, is basically any dual land
Also, in legacy, it shuffles your deck, which is important for decks like Miracles, Canadian Threshold, and most combo decks as they generally brainstorm to dig for combo or counterspells. The shuffle effect allows you to keep digging off of a senseis divining top or similar card.
My Canadian Threshold deck runs 6 lands, 8 fetches and 4 lands that destroy other lands.
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>>46321207
>stifle
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>>46324868
>existing in modern
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>>46324888
You can tell the difference between a modern and legacy player by how they fetch
A legacy player turns their fetch and looks at their opponent, a modern player just graveyards it and starts looking
Its so funny when modern players start playing legacy and get stifled the first time
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>>46321087
Preordain is better than Ponder.
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>>46322964

Okay i'm going to give you some advice.

If you're going to make a deck do not make a worse version of a deck that already exists and tries to do the same thing.
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>>46323974
That looks pretty badass outside of the big dumb chicken.
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>>46324361

I find that the U Tron matchup against Infect is not so bad these days with Spatial Contortion being a card. It was the card U Tron needed for removal.
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So I want to build a deck to fuck around with at FNM using
4 Endless One
4 Hangarback Walker
2-3 Restoration Angel
4 Enduring Renewal

What would be the best win condition to add here? As a side note Restoration Angel lets you play your Endless Ones and Hangarbacks as actual creatures if need be, since flickering one resets it at 0/0 and starts you off into a loop with Renewal.
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>>46324784
Markov is a Russian name tho. Some Russians (and Eastern Europeans in general) can have dark skin similar to the pic. Of course being an American you wouldn't know what the real world outside looks like.
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>>46325350

Depends though, if they cast a lump in response you only made them get 3 more power in. Spatial is very good vs burn and affinity though, I run 2 MD and 1 side
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>>46325722
Pump*
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>>46319821
>Dark Ritual
Not modern legal.
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>>46325483
that synergy between endless one / walker and enduring renewal isn't even all that great

just do something stupid like enduring renewal + ornithopter + krark clan + fireball
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>decide to get back into Magic after a few years off, and Modern in particular
>look at my old binder
>Modern has caused the prices of things to spike to RETARDED levels

God bless this format, you loveable bastards.

These two pages of Scalding Tarns are worth way more than I would have figured. Thought they'd stabilize at $20 a head.
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Trying to get back into magic, and Modern looks very fun. What are some good decks to start playing with that won't cost me a hospital visit?

also, what is the memiest deck in modern that is actually good
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>>46325502
>He thinks everyone on this peruvian cartoon board is american
>Eastern european from the mid 19th century were black
kek
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>>46325791
UW Memeria
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>>46324784
More like Dreadsknight
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>>46325799
He said "actually good" anon.
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>>46325791

Zombie Loam
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>>46325791
Memescendancy is the best meme you can spew in the year 2016.
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>>46325791
>that won't cost me a hospital visit?

Lol fucking Americans.

Also, Skred
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>>46325839
Same guy, what is a "memescendancy"
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>>46325889
Jeskai Ascendancy I assume
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>>46325889

Either Jeskai Ascendancy combo or Jeskai Ascendancy Combo-Control.

There's also Ascendancy Ascension which is storm with Jeskai Ascendancy
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>>46325889
I like you, glorious Anon! You're a shallow, precious child — the Ascendant — happy with the sweeping sound of words! But I am the Ascendancy! The Tiger-Force at the core of all things! When you cry out in your dreams — it is MEMES that you see!
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>>46325906
I don't know what any of those do, I have literally zero knowledge of the Modern Metagame
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>>46325903
It can probably work well with that enchantment which turns all your creatures into mana dorks, or with Noyan dar
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>>46325906
Double ascension is pretty cool imo.
Control variant is fake and gay, get those counterspells outta my sight.
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>>46325808
It is very good against creature based deck.
It gets rekt by tron and combo deck but with the right sideboard.
Don't let the meme be dream.
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>>46325822

This desu

The deck has great plays and is pretty strong game 1 because all that attrition will eventually lead you to win the game.

Game 2 though, hope you like #thestruggle because you're in for a bad time playing around RIP and Relic of Progenitus. Will be the main reason why the deck isn't that played.

Ironically, ever since it placed top 8 in GP Melbourne and it gained traction, it became weaker since everyone is now aware of the Loam Dredge meme.
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>>46319503

>What card do you think is guaranteed a ban next week?
Meta answer - Eye of Ugin, possibly also Eldrazi Temple based on how much WotC thinks we want this deck dead.
Personal answer - I've been talking a lot with my community about Inkmoth Nexus getting a ban. A free uncounterable 1/1 infect with evasion that also produces mana and doesn't die to sorcery speed creature removal is a bit of a stretch in the top two decks that play it (For the Ill-informed, Affinity and Infect). A ban of this wouldn't kill either deck outright, but certainly slow them down to the point that control decks may have a chance (wishfulthinking.jpg.)

>Assuming Eldrazi is kill, what sideboard cards are you removing?
Jundfag here, so i'm gonna try and stop making Big Game Hunter work in the deck. If Eldrazi isn't completely kill (Lose eye, keep temple), i could see me keeping the extra terminates and thoughtseizes.

>What are you hoping gets unbanned?
Meta answer - Twindindunuffinheagoodboy.
Personal answer - Personally i want BeeBee back, and i'd actually like to see some non-twin control decks pop out of the frey. Let JTMS off the leash, see if he breaks everything, if he doesn't then we have a new deck varient. If he does, WotC is in no position to judge after Eldrazi Winter.

>If you're an Eldrazi memester, what deck are you moving on to?

Have the shell, thinking of investing in City of Traitors to play the deck in legacy. Seems a lot fairer in a format with Wasteland.

Thoughts?
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>>46325912

Look the decks up. Jeskai Ascendancy is a combo deck that takes advantage of mana dorks and cantrips to draw you the entire deck, produce absurd mana and either kill with a 20/20 mana dork or flung with a 20 power dork.

The control-combo version has a plan B backup with Unburial Rites and has a control shell.
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>>46324122
nah son i'm gonna just keep on doing it and theres

N O T H I N G
O
T
H
I
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you can do about it, faggot.
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>>46325839
I want to try and combine this with Knightfall for the ULTIMATE OVERMEME. They both run the same four colors anyway.

Tap mana, draw cards, sac lands.
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>>46325975
Darkdwellers Boom/Bust is maximum overmeme
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Rule question : If something has prot against a color, does it have prot against multicolored spells that have this color ?

For example : Is Kor Firewalker immune to Lightning Helix ?
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>>46326008
Nah it's all good bro
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>>46326008
yes
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>>46326023
>>46326024

Make up your mind
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>>46325775
Too many moving parts. The 0/0s are good in the deck because they remove the need for a sac outlet.

I've actually somewhat decided on UW with Altar of the Brood as the win condition. Maybe strip the deck down a bit and rely on Trinket Mages to fetch Needle/Altar/Walker as part of a Trinket Angel setup. Might be a fun deck for blind metas/fucking around, if not a competitively tuned one.
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>>46326032
They are both wrong, Helix is half red and half white so it does 1.5 damage to a Kor firewalker.
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>>46326038
Topkek
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>>46326038
no no no, it only has protection from the red part of the spell

Lightning Helix targetting Kor Firewalker just gains you 3 life
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>>46325722

Yeah that's why you cast the Spatial Contortion on your turn and not theirs, just like Bolt there's times when you need to cast instant removal on your turn and not theirs. This way if they pump it up in response then you're safe since they're not attacking you anyway.
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>>46319642
Last time I played a 'casual' modern deck they produced artifact affinity with a pile of artifact lands in it. Pointed out that it wasn't remotely fair because these things were all on the ban list and was told that they didn't bother with that stuff and 'we just play with what we like'.

And there's me thinking casual players just wanted to play their goofy Minotaur tribal decks and shit.

When playing casuals its a good idea to get an idea of the ground rules before you start or you get people whining to use their busted deck and then boasting how great they are when they thrash you.
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>>46326107

True. It's not like they'll cast apostles blessing anyway, shits colorless
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>>46326008

Okay I think everyone else has had their fun.

Ask yourself this. Does Kor Firewalker have Protection from Red? Yes. What colours does Lightning Helix have? Red and White. This means it is both a Red and a White spell. Protection from Red means it can't be targetted by Red spells, since Helix is both a Red and a White spell it fulfills the criteria of not being able to target Kor Firewalker with red spells.
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>>46324809
>the person is hanging upside down
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>>46326149
well they are dead
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Rate my Skred.

Instant (13)
4x Lightning Bolt
2x Magma Jet
4x Skred
3x Volcanic Fallout

Planeswalker (7)
3x Chandra, Pyromaster
4x Koth of the Hammer

Sorcery (1)
1x Anger of the Gods

Enchantment (3)
3x Blood Moon

Creature (10)
4x Boros Reckoner
3x Simian Spirit Guide
3x Stormbreath Dragon

Artifact (4)
2x Coldsteel Heart
2x Relic of Progenitus

Land (22)
2x Scrying Sheets
20x Snow-Covered Mountain

Sideboard (15)
1x Blood Moon
1x Boil
2x Crumble to Dust
4x Dragon's Claw
1x Pyroclasm
2x Relic of Progenitus
2x Roast
2x Shattering Spree
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I'm building an Emrakul Polymorph deck using Khalni Garden, possibly Flayer Husk, Awakening Zone and Call the Scions to provide creatures (and ramp to an extent), some green ramp/fixing cards, Growth Spasm is good, and then various blue stuff to search the top of the deck for Polymorph, I'm also considering Bring to Light or Clutch of the Undercity to double up on my chances of playing a Polymorph by the fourth turn, unless there's alternatives in missing. I have some counter magic in the form of Mana Leak, Remand and am considering Pact of Negation in sideboard at least. Does all this add up to something playable? What are my greatest threats?
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>>46326300
>What are my greatest threats?
Good decks.
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>>46325986
Please this, I specced on GDD and it was a mistake
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>mfw people tell me Bloodghast is bad because it can get Pathed
>mfw they path it and then get steamrolled by Phyrexian Obliterator
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I want to buy into Kiki Chord. Stop me/sell me. It doesn't have much results lately, but if Boohoogland top8'd three SCG opens in a row, it has to be a decent deck. Especially after memedrazi gets banned.
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>>46326645

Don't buy into anything until the bannings on the 4th, period. Meta and market freezes until then unless you're a filthy speculator
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>>46326661
was it a mistake to drop $16 on a second urborg last night?
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>>46326661
The prices will only go up, never ever down. That's why I want to buy a deck before, so I will be safe from the spikes.
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>>46326669
Fuck no, the card's good. It is not going down in foreseeable future.
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>>46326681
>the card's good
but is my deck?

don't actually answer
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>>46326670

Prizes go down on culprits like eye or temple. This is actually the best time to buy drazi pieces like TKS at Rock bottom prices since everyone's trying to get off the sinking ship. If they ever ban eye, expect Vesuva to spike to 35 bucks or more, and if neo-drazi ft Vesuva and Temple manages to be decent, drazi pieces will stabilize again.
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>>46326718
vesuva comes tapped, which is a fucking huge deal in a deck that revolves around smashing your face with big creatures as soon as possible
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>>46327132
>>46327132

New thread
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>>46326645
Abzan chord decks have been having a strong showing for a while now. Kiki chord probably gets better after eldrazi gtfo.
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>>46324606
>Greg hatch
when you shitbrew so hard you actually become based...
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>>46326392
Why would you speculate on a buy a box promo ?
Are you retarded ?
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>>46326661
It's the perfect time to buy a modern deck/modern staples right now.
Since the Eldrazi deck, staples have gone down quite a bit.
After the bannings, those staples will only go up and up
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>>46323700
You townsville bruh?
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>>46322624
2 bolts and a giest flame, run ramp to get it out turn 3 and win
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>>46326280
Coldsteel Heart is utterly soul crushing to top deck. You don't even have a high enough curve to need it
Skred is slow so you shouldn't have a problem getting to 4 lands. Koth can ramp if needed too
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>>46325348
>talking shit bout Chocobos
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>>46325483
blood artist/zulaport cutthroat?
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>>46325944
Ban inkmoth will make infect tier 567shit, so no. Also it dies to ghost quarter, git gud
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>>46319577

West coast feels bad man, trannies and fat chicks everywhere MtG is played.

Why are traps on the internet so qt and the ones in real life as so gross?
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>>46320957

>tfw there are virgins on /tv/
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>>46330320
Oh gosh

Imagine those piercings rubbing up and down your dick
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