Song of Swords: Sing harder

Dead European hours, I see

>>46310145
Dead world hours, every day, every week, every fucking YEAR. It's been years since it was promised first time to come out on kickstarter.

>>46310385
It was dead since you stopped having regular public fechts on 4chan and moved to roll20. Many new players were recruited that way, but you decided to shoot yourselves in the foot.

>>46310512
>implying there are regular public fechts on roll20

>>46310744
See, now it's all dead.

>>46310512
Everyone always says "more fechts" but nobody is willing to ever run one.

>>46311592
Duels between anons are fechts too. Bash each others head, have fun, let anons and newcomers watch, git gud.

>>46311712
Exactly. Everyone wins, but nobody is willing to run them.

I suppose that now I've said that I'm honor bound to run one. But I'm also fucking tired and have a game later tonight. I'll see about running one after the game or tomorrow.

>>46311592
The thing is, Builder is on the cusp of releasing what we finally need to do fechts in their system. We'll be able to see the competition SoS is up against. Unfortunately it seems we have to wait until Thursday to get it.
They are to release the wound tables, damage formula, weapon stats, and armor stats. You can rig it up to work with what they've released so far, but soon we'll be able to do actual fechts in their system.

>>46311778
Let's see how they handle initiative and changing reach. BoB favors offense too much right now.

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>>46311963
>Let's see how they handle initiative and changing reach.
We already know how they do that.

>>46312560
>Both characters roll vs Base TN. The original attacker is considered advantaged. (-1TN)
On a red/red, no one is advantaged.
Nah, not great but better than I expected.
>Should the character with the shorter weapon score a hit (regardless of whether or not it
results in a wound)
From I what see, Feint with a longsword is very likely to hit a guy with a spear and give you reach control.
>Why throw White?
Good question guys

>>46311766
I'm busy next two weeks but after that I'm going to kill any fighter you make. 22 CrP, melee range.

What comic is the OP's pic from? Image search just gives me pictures of the kaaba.

>>46314179
artesia my man

>>46314179
Artesia
You can download it here https://www.mediafire.com/folder/iz0m2xwfswf33/Artesia

>>46314234
>>46314265

cool, thanks

>>46313290
Why would you need to Feint?

>>46314555
To boost your attack once you know how many dice he spend on defense? If you have reasonable chance to beat him, use Feint. Otherwise keep your dice for the next exchange.

>>46314622
You'd have to be adding in a large amount of dice then. Since Base TN is 6 for everyone to begin with, you won't be able to make the odds favor you heavily. You'd have to trick him with a low-die attack and then Feint most of your pool into it. Like we used to do in the old Riddle days. Besides, if he has a spear and threw white while you have a longsword and threw red, he has +4 CP for reach, so he can afford to invest more in defense against your first attack.

Also, in case it's not clear, range bonuses only take effect during the Refresh, and there are no range bonuses in a grapple.

>>46314796
>You'd have to be adding in a large amount of dice then.
In this situation I would not declare Feint at all. Feint is a flexible maneuver.
>Like we used to do in the old Riddle days.
I could declare regular attack and then Feint into Beat.
>he has +4 CP for reach, so he can afford to invest more in defense against your first attack
Depends on weapon stats but so far his defensive options are limited. If he uses TN6 evasion, he needs to pay 2CP to steal initiative on successful defense.
>range bonuses only take effect during the Refresh
Yeah, also swords with longer blade have no advantage over machete or falchion against spears.

>>46315112
>I could declare regular attack and then Feint into Beat.
Not in Builder you can't. You can only Feint from a Swing or Thrust, into a basic offensive maneuver. Beat is an advanced offensive maneuver.

>Depends on weapon stats but so far his defensive options are limited. If he uses TN6 evasion, he needs to pay 2CP to steal initiative on successful defense.
As of right now we have no reason to think he can't also parry at TN 6 with no problems.

>>46315263
>Not in Builder you can't.
You mentioned Riddle, though. Other option is Feinting into Discharge with a pistol at -1TN which is pretty sweet.
>As of right now we have no reason to think he can't also parry at TN 6 with no problems.
If only spears get DTN6 in BoB.

>>46315425
>If only spears get DTN6 in BoB.
That's the thing. They don't have ATNs or DTNs. Everything's done with your Base TN in Builder, which is normally 6. They mention pikes and other longer-than-EL polearms having disadvantage in a duel on page 104, so that leads me to think EL and shorter spears won't be at a disadvantage in defense. We don't know for certain until they release weapon stats, which according to a developer today is coming "soon."
We also know that shields defend at a Fixed TN, but don't know what those TNs might be.

>>46315631
>They mention pikes and other longer-than-EL polearms having disadvantage in a duel on page 104
"Advantage" and "disadvantage" are game terms in BoB.
>If it should come up that a player insist on using a pike, or by some contrivance they must defend themselves with a galley’s oar, then
assume it is Extended reach and apply a
disadvantage to all manuevers using the
weapon. They just aren’t optimized for that sort
of thing.
What they said is LL weapons have good reach control but +1TN to all maneuvers. I don't know whether it applies to its own statline, stats of related weapon such as long spear or to basic TN6.

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>>46316012
I know what advantage and disadvantage are.

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Where could I find chocolate elves in Vosca?

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>>46316081
>falchion
>hefty chopper

I long for the day of release when we know whether this is still there or not.

>>46317086
D A C E

>>46317113
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0gmrmhzGc4

>>46317086
The iron warrens of the NEET elves.

>>46317231
He may be using that terminology, but despite loving Easton-sama I trust the guy who's writing the first actual study on surviving examples and who makes them more.

>>46317264
Do they live in Dace?

>>46317410
A few likely do. Dace is barren and awful enough that their allergies to nature would barely act up. And their METAL GLADES are about everywhere.

How can Ohanedin eat babies if babies can't talk?

>>46319443
They can only eat meat from animals that can speak. Humans are animals that can speak. Whether it's a baby or your grandpa, it's still Human, and Human is on the "can speak" list.
The real question is, can Ohanedin eat human fetuses? That would settle the abortion question once and for all.

>>46317454
I don't know if Helion would have allowed glades to pop up when it was their colony. Any there would have to be really new, or really old.

>>46321190
They'd probably be fine with it honestly. They're very sterile places. Nothing to make them sick.

>>46317454
There's a breached Glade under Taphonomy Bay. There probably are other glades elsewhere in the country.

So what's the deal with the bronze and iron rules? Has anyone made any that make more sense?

>>46323803
Explain how the current ones don't make enough sense.

>>46323803
>what's the deal
Manifested retardation.

>>46324051
Bronze armor is worse by pretty much all measures than cloth or leather.

>>46323803
>Has anyone made any that make more sense?
Not that I've seen. Given that we're not GURPS tier, trying to create subtle differences is difficult considering the weight a single AV carries.

I could see leaving iron at 1 worse than steel, and bronze at the same AV with the heightened cost, and maybe a vulnerability for both that any AP damage is treated as Crushing?

>>46324117
1 less point rather than 2 would be less crippling, certainly.

>>46317086
Some Zells are dark, and the Burdinadin are described as "chestnut" skinned, which is pretty brown.

>>46324117
Bronze might be worse against bludgeoning weapons.

>>46324360
The Burdinadin are like Drow if they were all NEET losers and salarymen instead of evil spider cultists. They even have medieval elf 4chan.

>>46308373
I accidentally found there was newer version of Ballad of the Laser Whales 1.0. Use this link for next OP until the next update.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/545c97wvexj5aa1/CoTV+Ballad+of+the+Laser+Whales+Alpha+1.0.pdf

>>46324360
Huh, I must have missed that. Always imagined them as pasty white.

>>46325659
It makes sense for them to be pasty. I'm not sure why they remain Chestnut underground. I guess skin color changes really fucking slowly when your generations can theoretically be a few hundred years apart.

>>46326675
They aren't living underground. Metal Glades are buildings (presumably with windows).

>>46326675

Maybe U.V. rays kill spirits, so Iron Glades are like tanning salons.

Also, I kinda want a Baba Yaga-like Burdinadin stomping around in a Metal Glade Ray.

>>46326771
Weren't they described as icebergs, much larger below than above? The Taphonomy Bay Glade definitely has an underground component, since the city is built over it.

>>46327043
Well they are confirmed for having mech suits so it's plausible.

>>46329215
Maybe not as big as a full glade but pretty big.

It's Tuesday.
That means you need to take a short break from shitposting, sodomy and alcohol Jimmy.

So, I'm only casually following SoS. Anybody willing to tell me what we know about magic in a mechanical sense?
Do we have any rough ideas how it will work in the system?

>>46332694
I think Pyromancy might involve burning arc for effects, as to what those effects are I couldn't tell you.
Sorcery involves drawing magic from the warren you're in to produce physical effects like force on an object, we actually got a .pdf with some samples I think.
Thaumaturgy is a mystery to me, I know it's about otherworldly entities turning you/your enemies into puddles of molten lead but that's about it.

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>>46332694
We also have this.

>>46333183
>goblins can use blood magic

>goblins have a spiritual ethos about the cycle of life and all beings being consumed by each other
>aberrant goblin breaks from this and flees to the surface, through shenanigans discovers and consumes a lone hunter that he found wounded
>and so discovers the power of the blood
>years later, the goblin is a mutated, super-powered freak seeking to eat anything warm-bodied
Bullet-dodging fear-smelling darkness-dwelling horror that can grow back entirely and quickly from any wound that isn't fatal? Good minor antagonist to toss into a Tattered Realms campaign, I think.

>>46333183
>>46332798
Alright thanks you both.
I think there is no pdf on magic in the archive in OPs mediafire link, if anyone could share any other pdfs on that matter I'd be gratefil

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>>46333602
What is the best way to demonstrate how lethal combat can be without snuffing out the lovely character your friend has been working on for the last two hours as they learn the system?

>>46335806
Darwinistic Chargen á la AGP.
Fuck yeah.

>>46335806
Let him practice with premade jobber character

>>46335806
Run an oldschool fecht with premade characters, as a practice run for the combat system.

So, is it me, or do wakizashi suck a bit too much, especially in comparison to the short sword?

>>46336938
Wouldn't it basically fill the position of a Napoleonic saber briquet, A.K.A. shit you use when you're desperate?

>>46336938
It's not supposed to be good. I think it draw, which can sorta compensate, I guess.

>>46337716
It has draw 1. It's fucking worthless.

>>46337846
It's something.

>>46337862
It's nothing. Strictly worse than just being 7+1c

>>46337716
>>46337714
>it's not supposed to be good
No, but it is supposed to function. I find myself especially concerned, because I am going to be playing a game set in shogunate japan, and the lower classes did not have that great of access to katana

>>46338125
Well what is it worse than in context?

>>46338125
>implying you'll get a wakazashi
Peasants like yourself should stick to sashimi knives and stop pretending to be above your station.
Is it set before or after the sword reform?

>>46338439
Legitimately worse than Tantos. I honestly wouldn't be upset if Wakizashi didn't have TN8 on the thrust for no reason.

>>46338496
Before. Commodore Perry gave his ultimatum a month ago, and the nation is in an uproar.

>>46338629
>Commodore Perry gave his ultimatum a month ago
Ooh, it's about to get spicy up in there.

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>>46338629
Then maybe you should stop using symbols of the Shogunate and instead use symbols of your new visitors: The Bowie Knife.

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>>46338629
Just make sure to prevent Perry from opening to many things okay?

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>>46336938
>>46337846
>>46338125
>>46338629
It's fine. You can cut, you can parry, and you can thrust if you need to, though it can't be reccomended. The Tanto is worse, being H-reach, light blade, and TN 8 Parry. I don't know why you seem to think the Tanto is better than the Waki, or even why you think the Waki is bad.

>>46340996
>no base damage with an insulting Draw 1
>one range step to justify the better offensive capacity of the fucking dagger
>wakazashi only has a distinct advantage on the defense
If I'm using both at the same time, I have a single useful weapon altogether.

>shortsword is superior or equal in every way but one less occasional cutting damage
>costs a tenth as much
shiggy diggy

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>>46341056
...You realize this is a sidearm right? No base damage and a good defense is perfectly fine you're expecting unarmored opponents, like muggers or thugs. Have your players pick up a goddamn club if they want a battlefield weapon for cheap, or a better yet, a spear.
>>46341113
Construction costs, muh folded steel. Price it however you want in feudal japan, it's your game, nerd.

>>46341174
You can also still use it to shank an armored mother in his armpit just like anything else, I guess.

But since this is late Shogunate I wouldn't worry about it either. Worry more about the fact that the default katana stats are going to make them fucking lightsabers against unarmored guys.

>>46340285
Fucking Americans.

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>>46344565
Why the salt?

>>46344983
>Go out grocery shopping
>End up dancing with hippies in the parking lot
It's been a strange day.
Showed those fags how a proper conservative dances.
Searing Enigma Wednesday instead. You'll get it lads.

Searing Enigma Wednesday: there's no Wednesdays in Vosca. They all have been abducted by the Chaos Gods. Wednesdays have been quietly replaced by Zeusdays and those who asks to many questions about it are disappeared.

>>46347971
That's about as spooky as when I thought I lost my socks because I couldn't find them.
I was already wearing them.

>>46348436
That's the story of every goddamn day of my life.

>>46348436
That's pretty horrifying

>>46346629
Dancing hippies is pretty spooky as enigmas go

>>46348436
Best post I've read today

>>46346629
What did you dance to?

>>46350637
It is.

>>46352526
I think it was some Lil Jon song.

>>46348436
Man, that's happened to me with my glasses a couple of times.

Should I ask Jimmy for permission to use Ballad initiative system in homebrew or steal it outright?

>>46356566
Just steal it my man.
Nobody needs to know

>>46356566
I have no power, nor any desire, to stop you.

>>46356836
Thanks man

>>46356566
>Can I steal jimmy's initiative system under the pretense that he invented it, and did not himself steal it from Cyberpunk 2020/Friday Night Firefight?

>>46358763
This is one the best "inventions" TRoS family of games has seen so far

>>46358983
Very true. I can't wait to see this game once the new system is all plugged in. SoS actually being learn-able without tutorial is so foreign to me, I can barely imagine it.

>>46359036
It's gonna be great.

>>46311592
>>46311712
I always liked to fecht, but I can't help but feel that there's a lack of fechting. In Roll20 and here, there's just a lack of interest - here, if I recall correctly, the last two fechts (one Ballad, one SoS) just died.

>>46364129
I can pull off a fecht if you help me make a character. You willing to do that?

>>46364388
We can make one in the thread right here, right now.

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>>46364524
Great, let's do it! This'll be fun!

You don't need an adult, right?

>>46364552
damnit rhade

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>>46364552
DO ET

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>>46364552
Bitch I AM an adult. Let's go.

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Great! What race do we want? Or do we want to choose randomly?
Note that the generator doesn't work properly with elves. Their age is based on the size of the forest they live in, but the generator doesn't know that, so it sets all elves to age 0.

>>46364772
Random yo.

>>46364772
If an option can be selected randomly, it must be random.

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Random it is!

Whoops, I hit the wrong letter.

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There we go. We're an ogre!

>>46364919
Our name is Shrek

>>46365005
of course

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Here's everything you'd want to know about ogres. We're big, dumb, and strong. Thankfully, we have a limited list of occupations, most of which fit right in with fechting.

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Now, what gender do we want? You may think this is a foregone conclusion, but remember that as the most historically and mythically accurate RPG of all time, FATAL properly presents the physical weakness of females in its sub-attribute adjustments. A female ogre will still be incredibly strong, but much weaker than a male.

>>46365186
Random.
Really, just keep hitting (R) until it doesn't let you anymore.

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It turns out we're male! This bodes well for our fechten style, and incidentally will make sure we have incredibly good odds to Intimidate smaller creatures.

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Now we have our sub-attributes.
The average roll results in 100. A perfectly average member of our race would have 100 in each sub-attribute.
The most important sub-attributes for combat are Hand-Eye Coordination, Agility, and Strength. We've actually rolled quite well here! But if you're unsatisfied with any of the results, you can reroll them.

We get up to 4 rerolls. The reroll uses a different dice loadout that results in an average roll of 135 instead of 100. But beware! Each reroll confers one (1) random mental illness. You can get a stronger body in exchange for a less stable mind!

So what's it gonna be, buddy? What will you reroll, if anything?

>>46365363
Reroll Bodily Attractiveness.

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>>46365449
Well well! We're much prettier now.

Any more?

>>46365513
vocal

>>46365513
What's Reflection for?

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>>46365572
Reflection is a sub-attribute of the Wisdom attribute. It's concerned with your long-term memory and recollection abilities. It affects skills such as Constellations, Etiquette, Remember Detail, and Weather Prediction. It's a good sub-attribute to have high if you plan on living in the wilderness, as virtually all ogres do, but of all sub-attributes it's one of the least used.

>>46365564
Our tones just got an octave closer towards dulcet.

>>46365654
I'd say Reflection, as it seems useful for us.

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Another large increase!

Only one reroll left, if we choose to use it. What'll it be?

>>46365708
Analytical, as I think it's now our lowest attribute.

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>>46365721
As you wish! We are one fine specimen of an ogre.

That's all four rerolls, so now we'll see what the price of the increases was.

>>46365800
>Fear of painful bowel movements
I guess this shrek does NOT want to take a fat ogre shit

>>46365800
>narratophobia
What? Fear of narration?

>>46365852
Philia, not phobia. Love of narration.

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>>46365852
>>46365865
Not quite.

>>46365888
>antisocial perv
if this wasn't randomly generated, I'd accuse somebody of self-inserting

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Let's press on. Up next is our ogre's age. Ogres are about twice as long-lived as humans. His age will have a massive effect on his sub-attributes, which you all just so lovingly boosted. The default is Young Adult. Young Adults have no bonuses or penalties to anything. What'll it be?

>>46365956
R.

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>>46365952
As I'm sure you read in the Ogre write-up above, most ogres don't speak any language. Only "gifted" ones speak, and they speak a language called Cigan. The dice never lie in FATAL, so our ogre must speak Cigan, or he'd never develop narratophilia.

>>46365972
Coming right up! Let's hope we're not an infant, as that'll heavily diminish our fighting prowess.

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Whew!

>>46366073
Is it time for our midlife crisis?

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Now, I have a very important question to ask all of you. And I mean all of you. Even those of you who are just lurking, I need to hear your voices. Speak up and tell me your answer. The question is simple:

Yes, or no?

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>>46366143
Y.

>>46366143
yes

>>46366143
NO. We must sculpt the perfect dong.

>>46366167
You either generate it randomly or not at all. You don't get to pick and choose.

>>46366143
No

>>46366206
What do you mean? Clearly we have the option to to randomly generate our dong, or make it ourselves.

Rolled 2 (1d3)

>>46366151
>>46366155
>>46366209
The dice never lie!
1-2: Yes
3: No

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Great! We'll learn what the results are later on.

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After modifiying for race, age, height, weight, and other factors, these are our ogre's final sub-attributes.
Yes, our Bodily Attractiveness is 1. This confers a -99 modifier to all of our 3d10 rolls which use Bodily Attractiveness. I suspect this is because in an older version of FATAL (which this generator was made for), ogres had a much worse penalty to bodily attractiveness. But the dice never lie, and so you've given this ogre narratophilia for nothing.

We look like we'll make quite a good fighter!

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These are our bodily features. We're 8'6" tall, and 79 years old!

>>46366406
Ha, we have luscious lips but probably chest fur caked in shit, blood and good knows what.

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You may look at our foot size of 12 inches and think, well that's convenient, that's a foot. To get such a result, however, we must have rolled very low on the Foot Size table. As you can see, our fist size is equivalent to our foot size. Now you may be thinking, because our hands are relatively small, something else must be small.

>>46366363
>so you've given this ogre narratophilia for nothing.
Nowhere does it say that the ogre's partner for vocabulary exercises needs to be particularly willing...

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I guarantee you, there's no problem.

>>46366528
I'm less concerned about the dick, that's going to get stabbed soon, and far more concerned about the motherfucking inch long nipples.

>>46366528
The only impressive part about our penis is its circumference. We're barely above (modern) human average in length.
Holy shit, our dick is almost cubical. It's only barely longer than it is thick.

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Our piety points are meaningless, as ogres have never even considered the existence of gods.
But our morality is quite good for an ogre. In fact, based on Disposition Modifiers of -50 to each roll, we ought to be Unethical and Immoral. I'll post what this means next. But, you can reroll this if you wish! Beware, as each of your up to 4 rerolls will give you one (1) random allergy.

>>46366604
Nah, let's keep our disposition.

>>46366593
>7.91"
>"barely above" modern human average
Spotted the African

>>46366582
and no thoughts on the gaping asshole? I mean squirrels and other fauna can easily crawl up inside

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>>46366593
It's slightly below average for our height. Our height is 8' 6", which translate to 8.5". But we're only 7.91". So:
7.91" / 8.5" = ~0.93 = 93%
Or -7% from average, which correlates to the 91-96 roll you see here.

Still, being an exhibitionist, I'm sure he's proud.

>>46366660
I mean, have fun with that ban I guess.

>>46366660
wow, to have that at hand.
I guess you are focusing on the right things in life, amirite?

>>46366593
Just stopped in to say that circumference is not diameter try dividing by Pi.

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>>46366660
>posting that on a blue board
Come on now, you know better.

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>>46366660
Jesus Christ, man.

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That's us in the bottom-right of both tables. Our specific disposition is UI. If we were human, or otherwise had no Disposition Modifiers, we'd've ended up being NN w/UN, which is as you see here.

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>>46366698
Cropping the image just loses the intent though.

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>>46366616
Since we're in agreement, let's move on.
We're too healthy to have any allergies!

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Like most ogres, we tend to keep to ourselves.

>>46366774
I guess just putting censor bar over the original image would get the message across.
Can't do that myself because saving images of nigger dick, even for a brief moment, is against my religion.

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Like the vast majority of ogres, we are a peasant born in a hamlet. This limits our starting funds, and we certainly won't have any ogre-sized plate armor or zweihanders. But, if we happened to be a part of a circus fencing ring, who knows?

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And finally, we have our name. I present to you...

Face-Smasher!

>>46366885
Face smasher the gracious.

>>46366622
It's 8", only 2 higher than the average.

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The generator may be done helping us but we're not finished yet. Next is a part I need YOUR help with. We need to give our ogre some skills! Besides his sub-attributes, the skills are what the ogre will actually use to fight with. It includes things such as Wrestling, Brawling, and weapon usage.

In FATAL, you roll a die for each year your character has been alive, spend the points from that roll according to how your character spent that year of their lives, and proceed to the next year. Graciously however, Byron Hall suggests an alternative method if our character is over 30 years old. We may roll all our skill points rolls as a lump sum, and distribute it realistically. Our ogre is 79 years old, so we have a lot to do!

Hand-in-hand with skills are our occupation! As an ogre we have a very small list of valid occupations, which are listed here. >>46365129

So I have two tasks for you now, /sos/. First, roll 1d100 for the occupation; the first roll counts. Then, we have a more complicated set of rolls.
20 rolls of 1d6 - 1
50 rolls of 1d10 divided by 2, then -1
9 rolls of 1d4 -1

That's what you have to do! Get to it!

Rolled 1, 5, 5, 2, 5, 5, 4, 5, 1, 4, 5, 3, 1, 4, 3, 6, 5, 3, 3, 4 = 74 (20d6)

>>46367067
>photo of twin towers for the captcha

>>46364552
You are a catamite, anon. You could run a proper fecht in Riddle/SoS but instead you chose to be memeshitter.

Rolled 2, 6, 3, 1, 4, 5, 3, 4, 3, 4, 2, 3, 2, 1, 4, 4, 1, 1, 1, 4 = 58 (20d6)

>>46367067
here's the d6

Rolled 1, 1, 10, 6, 6, 8, 1, 3, 2, 10, 1, 8, 10, 9, 9, 6, 8, 4, 10, 4, 3, 10, 9, 4, 9 = 152 (25d10)

Rolled 7, 2, 7, 1, 7, 7, 9, 8, 6, 7, 8, 2, 6, 10, 2, 4, 1, 9, 9, 6, 8, 2, 1, 5, 4 = 138 (25d10)

>>46367299
That's only 25, heres the rest

Rolled 28 (1d100)

I'll roll the d100. Hope we don't get slave!

>>46367234
58 - 20 = 38 SP
>>46367299
>>46367329
Let's see here. It follows this pattern:
1-2 = 0 SP
3-4 = 1 SP
5-6 = 2 SP
7-8 = 3 SP
9-10 = 4 SP
>>46367299
>0+0+4+2+2+3+0+1+0+4+0+3+4+4+4+2+3+1+4+1+1+4+4+1+4 - 25
>>46367329
>3+0+3+0+3+3+4+3+2+3+3+0+2+4+0+1+0+4+4+2+3+0+0+2+1 - 25

>>46367181
I could have, yes. You could have too. But you did nothing, while I did something. So don't get too mad at that. The point of being here is to enjoy yourself and be happy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDPqMFyn3Xk

>>46308373
What is this image?

>>46367519

>>46314265

Rolled 2 (1d4)

Looks like we still need the d4s as well. This is a lot of SP.

Rolled 2, 1, 2, 1, 1, 3, 2, 4 = 16 (8d4)

>>46367541
Whoops

>>46367519
Artesia, western military comic

>>46367506
>while I did something
You did a bad selfish thing and should be ashamed of yourself, not proud.

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By my count that's 109 SP to invest. But it's late now, so I'll be going to bed. Goodnight everyone!

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>>46367609
>You did a bad selfish thing
Uh huh

>>46367663
Back to roll20

Wow, I leave the thread for a few hours, and this happens?

Good job, lads.

>>46367692
That happens when kids lack communication skills. When they face problems, they engage in self-destructive behavior to attract attention of adults or powerful person to solve their problems. Little kids shit on the floor, teens cut their veins and big manchildren shit in their threads with the worst RPG system ever made.

>>46367869
We're not playing DnD though?

>>46367869
You know the FATAL Fecht predates SoS, right?

>>46367869
"Don't whine, create."

You're not doing anything but whining that somebody is doing something.

>>46368153
So fucking what? I was making these threads before SoS got its name.

>>46367869
Chill out dude, it's just a bit of harmless FATAL memeing.

>>46368326
FATAL shitposting isn't harmless as all shitposting. This "harmless" shitting
kills community eventually.

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>>46368326
Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy. National Socialist Elf Fecht when?

>>46368364
FATAL was here forming a community together before there was a game, back when the game was announced by Jimmy. There were a couple fights done, and it created some of the earliest of the fechts carried out by what became the SoS community. FATAL has actually done far more to create a cohesive, united community through laughing at shitty knights cutting off each others hands than any amount of bitching (apart from a mutual connection about bitching about Soon). If you're upset about it, run a Fecht that you want to see rather than complaining about it like a child, you fucking coward. It isn't anybody's duty to entertain you but yourself.

>>46367588
Extremely boring, decent artwork.

>>46368428
>and it created some of the earliest of the fechts carried out by what became the SoS community.
Go fuck yourself, moron. It was build Riddle fechts, we carried out dozen little fechts in old threads. You stroking touching yourself in the lonely corner for the shock value is not a community.

>>46368438
I think its great. Great armor porn, decent story, great setting, same faces, leading character is Mary Sue.

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>>46368471
>>46368364
>>46367869

Guy, you seem to be getting pretty excessively angry about this.

>>46368483
It's the comic where nobody wears pants as a symbol of regimental pride and which will never update again, right?

>>46368514
>nobody wears pants
Main cast are wannabe Scots. Other soldiers cover their juicy butts.
>which will never update again
It hasn't been updated in a long time, feels like Berserk.

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Make Ruvia great again

>>46369137
Ruvia was never great

Should I add anything to the next OP?

>>46371552
Ballad 1.0? Character Creation Walkthrough?

>>46325548
http://www.mediafire.com/download/545c97wvexj5aa1/CoTV+Ballad+of+the+Laser+Whales+Alpha+1.0.pdf

http://paste2.org/aKfOBmWJ

>>46371968
Okay, got it

>>46369811
It was probably pretty big at one point.

>>46374058
How big was Ruvia? Did it rule all of Galli and Kaselreich? Was it able to invade Osterbija before Tenja was built or Kalmacia before they figured out pike blocks? Were they able to circumvent the Ohanedin and take Iberia?

>>46375959
They ruled Galli, I believe. Other countries were protected by natural borders or natural badassery of its denizens.

>>46369137
I don't think I've allowed you to post my waifu?

>>46376153
Gali and Kaselreich both claim to be heirs, so they at least ruled both. They probably had Iberia as well, and I'm betting they also invaded Kedoua.

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>>46377605
Is that so? She happens to be my waifu too. You have to live with this fact.

>>46378516
I can share her with you.
If you're willing to share yourself with me.

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>>46378568

Y'all mutherfuckers, comin' years late to the waifurin'...

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>>46378325
Well, Galli was obviously easily conquered, it's a defenseless flatland. Northern region of modern Kaselreich is protected both by mountain range and Whatsitsname river. I don't think Ruvians would waste resources to conquer filthy barbarians beyond perfect natural border.

Kedoua is notSyria filled with snakes, smelly notParthians, horses, arrows and the whole lot of nothing. Does it have any important trade routes from Karthak, gold mine or anything valuable?

Iberia looks like tricky place to conquer. Rough terrain, mountains, maneating elves. What's important about it?

>>46378568
I'm happy not to be Anthony Burch and I'm not going to change that in the foreseeable future.

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>>46378978
>Iberia looks like tricky place to conquer. Rough terrain, mountains, maneating elves. What's important about it?

Well, you see, the Ruvians found this huge mountain full of gold, and then they took the gold and left the mountain here, and here, and there, and there too, and also over that other part there, and all along these rivers...

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>>46379616
I forgot about rich gold mines. Looks like this place is filled with great ambush sites for hunting human miners. Maybe goblins settled there once humans left?

>>46379616
hey from León here, finally our goddam forsaken place is recognized as being worthy of invading

>>46379875
Your forsaken place provided 1% of the gold mined in human history. It's a lot.

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>>46379941
The Witwatersrand of South Africa provided >50%

1% is still respectable on a global scale though

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>>46379875
Just saying...

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>>46368326
Yo Jimmy, updated your Gizka pawn yet?

>>46378978
Jenoesa was originally a Ruvian colony, I think.

>>46379777
That place is only like that _because_ of human miners. The Romans literally broke the mountain into pieces.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruina_montium

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>>46380815
not shown in pic: miles and miles of aqueducts.

Japanese merchant asshole here again.
I'm buying my equipment right now, and while I've got a pack animal with a cart full of goods, I need to actually have some armor, because bandits exist but are officially denied as existing by the government.
So obvious armor, while not always illegal per se, can still get me beaten or executed, because japan.

So, good folks of stabbing dicks, how can I armor myself in a way that both isn't obvious and isn't useless?
I'm already planning on sewing mail into a cloth vest/shirt and into a scarf, but that leaves my limbs woefully exposed. I think I could also swing an old jingasa without being suspicious, but that again leaves my face and lower head completely exposed.

>>46382093
just wear a big traveling cloak over your armor

something like a mail hauberk (which I'm pretty sure has historical basis in japan) worn under a coat could work

look at the design for a coat of plates/brigandine, those should be pretty easily disguised as long as you don't take it off around anyone. Still only covers the torso though.

maybe brigandine + jack chains, worn over a linen shirt and under a jacket/robe? Should minimize bulk/clanking and give some measure of protection for the limbs

>>46382093
Well, you've already got a manchira planned, that's a good start. You're not going to be able to fully armor your face without it being obvious in some way but you might be able to swing a kusari-gote (kote sleeves of full mail) that can be hidden under the sleeves of a kimono.

>>46382093
>face and lower head completely exposed
I mean . . . . there's really no way around that without a helmet

maybe some kind of articulating gorget that you wear a scarf over? Probably too expensive for a merchant though

>>46382193
>something like a mail hauberk (which I'm pretty sure has historical basis in japan)

It does; google image search "kusari-gusoku".

>>46382278
aha, I knew I had seen japanese mail somewhere

>>46382272
>there's really no way around that without a helmet
I'm going to make an argument to the GM that I could, if I am anticipating trouble, wrap up and around my mouth and lower head, acting like a camail if I can take the couple rounds to adjust it.

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>>46382093
>I'm buying my equipment right now,

How much money are we talking here, boss?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU0R8nMepkU&feature=youtu.be&t=61

>>46382434
100 gp of detestable merchant money

Enough to matter, but not quite enough to be able to play with the clans or the most modern tech.
I have yet to ask what the price of a Colt Navy is.

>>46380516
I think Jimmy once said that it was Carthage, which makes it conquered by Ruvia.

>>46382358
Mail hood and face wrap is your best bet for remaining somewhat inconspicuous. You could also add some lamellar to the chest to represent that plate linked with mail that exists on a lot of Asian armor.

>>46383260
>hoods
I'm unsure if they're present enough in normal fashion for it to be actually inconspicuous.

For the vest, I think brigantine is a perfect model for the kinds of armors I'm looking at in that link. That, or straight mail because obviously. Mixing them feels messy.

>>46382093
If you're willing do be extremely dishonourable (you're a merchant, so we both know you are) you could make an iron Komusō hat, and just keep it nearby when travelling.

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>>46383371
This thing on the right could count as a camail if made from padded material, and if you can fasten one of the flaps across your face maybe a ventail as well.

>>46383371
I mean, keep the hood concealed under your regular clothing, if at all possible. Or keep a coif that can be thrown on.

>>46384368
Seems pretty obvious if it were padded.

>>46383692
Probably, most arms and armor can't really be concealed on the person. They need to he kept in belongings.

>>46380351
Yeah, she's up by like ten levels and has way higher level equipment. I'm starting on Bitterblack.

>>46388239
Where's our lore, Jimmy? You promised lore!

People are asking about Ruvia. Tell us about Ruvia.

Untimely Tidbit Thursday when Jimmy?
Or if we're being more accurate to me (we should be), it would be Farsical Factoid Friday

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Need this posted to share

>>46388436
Ruvia!

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>>46389944
Ruvia Victor!

>>46388436
Yes. Yessss.
Tell us all about which barbarian tribes wrecked Ruvian shit and how hard. How many times was the capital looted and burned? Were there any rigged tribute weighting procedures?

Jimmy Rome, show us your name.

>>46390981
Clements is not welcome here.

>>46390997
Show me how strong your flat is!

>>46390981
S
F L A T
R
O
N
G

>>46391038
You have no flat, like a woman!

>>46391328
But plenty of Justice.

My fucking eyes, why Hiromooto, why!?

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>>46391558

The future of 4chan is here. Embrace it before it's too late.

______________________________________

There's a toxicity within gaming culture, and also in tech culture, that drives this misogynist hatred, this reactionary backlash against women who have anything to say, especially those who have critiques or who are feminists.
- Anita Sarkeesian

"Your favorite song... Nicola, Bart - immigrants, wrongly executed... But their deaths served as a message to others: that ours is a society that murders the innocent. Do you, too, believe that your sacrifice will change the world?"
- Skull Face

Atheist, Debtor, Pensexual, Transabled, Genderfluid Otherkin, 100% kickass

>>46391609
>Wrong, A Fool, An Idiot, Sound of Body but Lazy, and foolish beyond belief willing to lie to themselves and others for attention
>100% Kickass
I'm sorry, what?

>>46392180
It's the average forum signature.

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>>46391609
Oh I've seen the future alright, but...
Pandering to /pol/ by making 4chan all white seems a bit much.

>>46392400
>Forums
For what purpose? What good can come from visiting places where such things are celebrated? Why would you do that to yourself anon? I'm worried for you. You don't need to hurt yourself like this, we're here for you.

>>46392478
>Mccarty
>not McCarty
You're a shame to our collective Irish ancestors.

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Good news everyone! Builder has finally released their wound tables, weapons, and armor! We can now do fechts in their system.

>>46394655
>Rigid armors place a cap on all blunt damage at level 3.
For what purpose?

>>46394876
Metal armors make cutting damage blunt. So I guess it keep you from being able to cave in a breastplate with an arming sword. Maces and hammers have crushing so they can ignore the cap.. Which means high-damage cutting weapons still aren't as good at busting plate as lower damage hammers and maces.

I like it.

>>46394876
So that you don't have someone inflicting level 5 wounds to you with a spoon just because they got 500 BS

>>46394955
It makes piercing damage blunt, too, don't forget that. Oh, and, Maces don't actually have Crushing.

Who cares about Bob the Builder anymore?

>>46394655
By the way, the money system is:

20 skillings = 1 mark
20 marks = 1 score

>>46395088
If you got struck with 500 BS, you are fighting a god and everything is possible

>>46395190
Stupid Freddie. Always falling into the hyperbole pit.

>>46394955
what does a halberd count as

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>>46395260

>>46395472
thanks Chad

So a polearm is similarly limited in wound levels against plate armor as a sword? Seems odd.

>>46394655
Combat seems to be more deadly for unarmored characters than in other successors. Maneuvers look kinda boring and sterile.

What do you like about it?

>>46395633
Armor works. And it works well. A +3c hit still becomes +3 damage, it just gets turned into bludgeoning. Based on the wound tables you will still fracture bones and inflict knockdown if you're dealing level 3 bludgeoning wounds.

>>46395648
Well Jenny, it's a fast and lethal system. The maneuvers are simple and it facilitates faster play than SoS. The grappling system is particularly brutal. You're supposed to always have your SAs going, so you're always fighting for some reason or purpose relevant to your character and the party.

>>46395749
Fair enough. I suppose it depends on the effectiveness of the bludgeoning table. Even if you're not instant killing somebody level three wounds are still pretty serious business.

>>46395786
Comparing damage tables, it looks like they have three things to juggle - TN shifts, Impact, and the actual cookie effects. As a trend, I notice cutting damage seems to be the worst overall (TN shift at every level, high impact, and higher blood loss). Since cutting damage is the least effective against armor, this is a nice touch, as it means against a lightly or unarmored target a cutting weapon is the most likely to end a fight.

Piercing weapons have the same base TN shift progression as cutting, but are lower impact. This seems to track to what Easton has said about piercing weapons being as or more lethal than the cut, but not necessarily as immediately as incapacitating.

Blunt weapons have the same impact as cutting weapons, but a lower TN progression.

Their forums are already discussing eratta. Apparently at least one of the authors has been going through some family health issues and hasn't had a lot of time to work on the game. Probably why this was dropped on the forums instead of made an official update release. Expect corrections/clarifications to come.

>>46396219
>Piercing weapons have the same base TN shift progression as cutting, but are lower impact
Shit, I didn't even notice that. They have half the stun of other wounds.

Gotta say I kinda like the thing with the randomly generated names
The layout can go down the pipe though

>>46397118
It looks like they have less impact than the other types of wounds, but this might be a balance in the way damage works.

Cutting is the best against lightly or unarmed opponents across the board. If the other guy is in clothing, leather, or a gambeson, cutting wounds are absolutely brutal... but they rapidly become useless against anything in metal.

Blunt weapons are the ones that deal with armor the best, but they are arguably do the least overall damage - Impact is the same, but the TN shift is less, and short of caving in someone's skull or rib cage, the wound is survivable.

Piercing weapons fall into a spot between the two. They are as lethal as cuts against unarmored opponents, and while there is no cutting weapon that gets around armor, there are piercing weapons that can get through maille and even plate. Thrust-based piercing weapons (so the majority of piercing weapons) can also use precise thrust to target gaps in armor, so in every way they are better at dealing with armored opponents than unarmored opponents.

It looks like piercing is the compromise damage. If they did as much impact as the other two, why would I ever want a cutting weapon?

>>46397118
This kinda makes sense, now that I think about it. You can suffer a fatal thrust and not be taken out of commission. We have accounts of rapier duels where the "winner" will die minutes or hours later for just such a reason.. whereas cutting wounds are more liable to end the fight in a spectacularly messy fashion.

>>46397347
What are you doing out of the kitchen Isabel? Get the fuck back in there

>>46397347
I'm only getting the layout change on about half the threads I have open, no idea why.

>>46397940
Refresh them. Better yet, don't.

I'd run a BoB fecht but fuck this layout.

I actually kind of like the layout, I just don't like the bubbled thumbnails

>>46398086
4 me it's mostly 2 bright. If I could use tomorrows colorscheme I would not mind the layout that much.
But fuck those bright colors radiating from my monitor at night burning muh eyes

>>46397978
I refreshed. Oh god what have I done

>>46398366
You gotta love April fools.

>>46398366
Thank God for mobile view.

>>46396219
>>46394655
Looks like they updated to v2 to fix errors.

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>>46401084
Thanks Wallace.

Question, if a beat takes someone's weapon offline do you still pay range costs if you follow up with an attack?

If so, how the piss to you close when the range difference is severe?

>>46401140
>Question, if a beat takes someone's weapon offline do you still pay range costs if you follow up with an attack?
Yes.
>If so, how the piss to you close when the range difference is severe?
Should have brought a longer weapon, lad.

>>46401140
>Question, if a beat takes someone's weapon offline do you still pay range costs if you follow up with an attack?
Yes. Beat does not change the range the combat is at.
>If so, how the piss to you close when the range difference is severe?
You just do it. Pay the costs and go for it. Don't have a CP less than 10.

>>46397368
>why would I ever want a cutting weapon?
Well, cutting damage is far more effective against limbs and arms in particular which are often closer to the enemy and can be easily damaged with a cut. Piercing damage is less dangerous to limbs but can damage internal organs and aorta more easily, carrying high risk of infection and fatal bleeding. Bloodloss from severed aorta will kill you much faster than chopped off arm and it's very difficult to stop.

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>>46402004
>jeanne chan

New thread

>>46403014
>>46403014
>>46403014