/civ/

>>46274522
Should be /civg/ Civ General as the title

But I would like to either see non-humanoid civs, or space civs

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If dinosauroids, loxo, and yetis could be picked more often, I'd be so happy!

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>>46274522

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>>46274218
What do you mean?

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Here's a civ chart for ya'll

>>46274599

Also, I've always found the idea of a modern group of humans going through a portal into the DnD world to be fun. I'm running my own civ right now, but if someone started either a loxo, yeti, dinosauroid, or Imperial Japan civ, they'd be the real MVP and I'd FOR SURE play.

>>46274522
For fuck sakes, I was going to make a Civ and Evo General.

>>46274701
We can still talk about Evo as well. What are your ideas, Anon?

>>46274668

Holy cow, yes! Someone please host this!

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>>46274668
>modern group of humans going through a portal into the DnD
>Imperial Japan civ
Please no.

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>>46274668
>Imperial Japan civ
That is the worst idea for a civ I've ever seen.

Or the best idea. Because A-bombs.

>>46274901

Okay, maybe the Japanese idea is bad. Still, I'd be down for yetis or loxo.

>>46274817

Oh shit! Accidentally a faggot! Let's just focus on dinosauroids...

>>46275898

>>46276332
Like your quest.

How do I get a successful post archived?

>>46264729

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>>46274522
How would you run a Fairy/Fae civ, /civg/?
Anyone planning to make one?

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Moth people are cute.

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>>46278838
Purge them all.

>>46277856
Either a repurposed kobold civ, or crazy Sidhe being dicks to everybody

>>46279250

Anyone planning on making that loxo thread referenced several times in this thread?

>>46279355
Apparently nope.

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>>46278866
>>46279126
Why are you mean?! Moth civs would be awesome.

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>>46279551
I've seen enough mothman to know they're bad

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>>46279586
Join us,Anon!

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>>46280755
Yeti master race coming through

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>>46283339
Are Yetis a good, evil, or neutral race?

>>46283446
Probably neutral due to them being technically animals.

>>46283446
Depending on what you're reading, they could be neutral good to chaotic evil

>>46278866
what a clusterfuck abortion that was

truly one of the worst civs ever run

I kinda want to run a civ quest, but I dunno where to start really. Do I use a preset or custom, and how does one archive shit?

>>46283543
Don't post a chart. Tell your players what options, if any, are available, based on what you are interested in running.

Don't assume generic D&D fantasy shit. Definitely don't invoke classes and levels.

Lastly and most importantly, don't listen to myrm, ever.

>>46283543
If you're a newbie then pick the race and setting.

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Could someone explain to me what CIV is? I know of the Civilization games a la Civ V, but you guys appear to be talking about something completely different. Help me out here?

>>46283637
It's basically a quest thread with a country/race as the protagonist.

>>46283637
Look it up on suptg. There's a clusterfuck of tags but 'civ' seems to cover most of them

>>46283543
Here is your customary LURK MOAR YOU FAGIT

Archiving is done on suptg

To learn how to do civs, look at past and current ones

>>46283533
You'd be wrong.

Alright, thanks mates. I might be doing one soon enough then.

Is there any special reason for why namefagging is encouraged?

>>46284397
Same reason as for quests, the identity of the CM is actually important so we can distinguish their comments from the herd.

>>46284416
I mean the chart itself encourages namefagging. Why would anons want to namefag?

Besides, the CM would be better served by getting a tripcode.

>>46284429
I don't know what you're referring to on the chart but I can speak from experience as a CM that I just used the name field because I don't know how to use tripcodes. That's probably behind at least a good bit of it.

I will grant you, though, that there's a lot of toxicity attached to this whole business of namefaggotry, which is why I used generic names like "CM."

>>46284477
You see the chart on >>46274648
Look at the instructions just under the title.
"Namefagging is encouraged for players."

>>46284491
Yeah that's just plain faggotry to me, like some forum RP shit, and I don't know why the creator of that chart would encourage it.

What is your favorite monstergirl?
So far we got
Sheep, Cat, Kitsune, Lamia, Mermaid, Harpy, and Centaurs, Alraune, Slime, Spider, Bipedal Scorpiongirls and Machines.

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>>46284870
Wan wan

>>46283637
>>46283543

>Could someone explain to me what CIV is? I know of the Civilization games a la Civ V, but you guys appear to be talking about something completely different. Help me out here?

Realistically I don't think anyone will be able to really answer this since we all have our own ways of doing it.

I think the best advice you can take from the other anons is:
>>46283682
>>46283668
>>46283661
>>46283611
>>46283635

Simply put there's a LOT of different ways to do it and it's best to just find a method that works for you.
And never listen to Myrimidon.

>>46284870
Succubi of course.

Also squid people are cool. And so are bee girls. Or ant girls.

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>>46285633
>And so are bee girls. Or ant girls.

Bee and Ant Girls are one of my favorites too.
I just really like Bees in general though- I grew up in a rural area next to a honey farm and one house that kept bees and the sight of fields of flowers and bee boxes is really nostalgic to me.

>>46274522
Anything come of the tech tree someone was working on? Could we see what they've got so far?

Also, maybe it would be a good idea to let players work on developing culture and such for the civs. Adds another layer to the game, helps keep the civs unique.

>>46274648
I hate the choices you have to make in this chart. It's not showing two different types of the race, it's just arbitrarily splitting up defining race traits.
Can you honestly imagine treants that don't photosynthise? Serpentfolk that don't slither?

>>46287255
here's what I came up with so far. Admittedly it's more or less stolen from Jyoti/DeadQm's Ghouls, but hey, it works alright.

It was still a WIP when I last checked it as I like to leave some form of customization for the players, as in the magic category.
Research tree:
> Tech we have
# Tech in progress

Agriculture: > Gathering - Land clearance - Irrigation - Compost - The Plow - Communal Farming - Crop Rotation
- Animal husbandry - Selective breeding - Animal training - Pack animals - Mountable animals - War Mounts

Military: > Hunting Bands - Militia - Basic Tactics - Warrior Code - Drills - Advanced Tactics - Logistics - Chain of Command -

Tools: > Stone tools - Scrap tools - Crude smelting - Crude metalworking - Stone forge - Basic smithing - Basic Metalworking - Metal Casting

Social: > Tribal community - Theology - Written Laws - Tax Labour - Currency - Guilds - Education - Banking - Vassalage - Foreign affairs - Empire

Magic: - ???? - ???? - ???? - ????

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How do you feel when a good civ dies too young?
>Friends of the Faun

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>>46289562
Left wondering how civs seem to have a higher turnover rate than regular quests.

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>>46289597
In the Faun case, QM is busy with college. *sigh* Wish him luck, though.

>>46290598
"For the Queen!"

Would you play civ in a world where gods do exist and give out boons (technologies, blessings, etc.)? The civs will have additional parameter (Piety) and with it rising civilization will receive additional patronage
basically mixing civ with dawn of worlds

>>46274522
Civs are dead.

>>46291075
That depends. Can the gods intervene and perform Ten Plagues shit? And what limits are there to piety? What's to stop every civ from devoting literally everything to making the biggest monument to their god?

>>46291122
Less abrahamic, more King of Dragon Pass - they offer blessings and boons, but will not just rain food or locusts on demand.
Although i'm toying with the idea of sufficiently pissed god going all Sodom and Gomorrah on betrayers of his faith's asses

>>46291163
So getting good shit is more of a dice roll, and higher piety increases the chance of a useful boon?

>>46274522
Running vamp civ tonight, look for it around 8-9pm eastern time

>>46291182
That and actions made in god's name, like god of fire, earth and metal appreciating metallurgy research and can bless forges to make resulting metal even more amazing. Or a god of law and justice you (ostensibly) worship going "wtf dude" if you routinely massacre civillians and starting to stifle your armies'progress.

So it's more additional bonuses but with caveat that you should practice what you preach.

>>46291075
That could actually be an interesting mechanic.

>>46291182
Unless it's heavily reliant on dice. Random chance shouldn't determine whether you get blessed or fucked over.

Piety should.

>>46291302
So the gods are actually fairly active in their opinions, and not just waiting for you to worship them? Sounds good to me.

>>46291303
Yes, random dice would probably decide how much godjuice do you normally get, with additional piety being gained (or lost) by deeds.

Probably gonna make this matter of not overall piety (like, get 2000 godjuice - get new reward), but a matter of consistent growth (If you previously consistently produced 200 praisethesunium per turn, but started to praise harder and now produce 300 praisethesunium, you get noticed more).

>>46291448
It might take some balancing later, but I'd be interested.

I could imagine a breakthrough in metallurgy despite having access to only bog iron would gain attention from !Vulcan, while !Faustitas will be pleased if you treat your livestock well.

Is there a civ thread going on currently?

What is your favorite monstergirl?
So far we got
Sheep, Cat, Kitsune, Lamia, Mermaid, Harpy, and Centaurs, Alraune, Slime, Spider, Bipedal Scorpiongirls, Machines, Wolfgirls, Succubi, Squidgirls, Beegirls and Antgirls.

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>>46292584
Vamps.

Mate, it'll be faster to just do all of them instead of coming back to ask.

>>46292584
The kinds that have monsterboy equivalents.

>>46292947
there'll be two variants, one with monsterboys and one with only females, requiring a way to make babies via any means

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>>46293154

>>46292584
Bump

>>46293181
How lewd

>>46292584
Bump

>>46291207
>>46297636

starting now

>>46295654
New civ thread here

>>46298631
How would a skeleton civ work?

>>46298667
Like any other.

>>46298667
Time to necromancy up in this shit.

Alternatively, look at Death Among the Stars

>>46298667
Spooky.

>>46292584
Bump

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how about a race of myrm-monstergirls

not in the sense of his nonsense creatures but like as in a race of self-absorbed "2deep4u" autistes

basically like chuuni sphinxes or something

>>46300375
The fuck is a myrm anyway?

>>46300375
See >>46274600

>>46300430
Myrmidon
>>46300375
Hmmm... What was his avatar again, some blue skinned warrior

Kuu-hee Muthafucka

>>46300532
Go back to otterland, foul chummer!

Also, how's the quest going?

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>>46300464
>>46300430
I am the civilization master of Myrmidon Civilization Quest. Feel free to ask any questions that you may have.

>>46300555
When you running next?

>>46300604
When would you like me to run?

There has been little interest in my civilization for a long time, so I've been planning a more traditional quest format.

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>>46300651
>more traditional quest format
Please explain.

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>>46300671
I am planning on running a SHORT quest with a single protagonist on an adventure of some kind.

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>>46274600
Has anyone used this

Like

ever?

>>46300848
Yes, actually. Two or three times, if memory serves.

It was fun while it lasted.

>>46300848
Yes. It ended poorly or was simply uninteresting at best, and began an era of shitposting the likes of which has never been seen before or since, from which the civ community still has yet to recover from.

It should be noted that it was not primarily because of the quality of the chart, but the person that made it.

>>46300906
That is clearly false.

So how does one run a space/sci-fi civ?

>>46301609
How realistic do you intend to be?

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>>46301627
Not really. Space opera-level stuff.

>>46300906
I think both are to blame. There is no redeeming feature to that chart.

>>46301693
Then just run it however you like.

>>46302085
See >>46301000

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>>46302161
What if it were hard sci-fi?

>>46302181
Can you give any supporting arguments towards your claim?
And may you please put on a trip?

>>46302584
well, you're being mean to him, let's give him a chance

just fucking with you

>>46302228
Then you must ask yourself the question "how hard?"

Because unless you have a PHD in astrophysics, you will not manage to run a hard sci-fi anything, much less a civilization level game written on the fly.

So you need to ask yourself where and how you want to cut corners and soften things up? Will you ignore delta-V? Fuel efficiency is just assumed to be a non-issue? Material science is assumed to have unlocked magical near mass-less metamaterials as strong as diamond? These are all things that can serve as explanations for hand waving or simplifying otherwise overwhelmingly complex issues. Will you keep track of every planet, celestial object, and orbital path in the game and dynamically calculate the delta-V and acceleration of every ship to figure out the travel time between any two places, or will you add a "speed" stat and roll a few dice to account for orbits?

In any case, regardless of if you want to run a space opera, pulp, or something that looks like hard sci-fi, the single most critical thing to keep in mind is consistency. Players can deal with some incredibly outlandish things, but the moment something is not internally consistent, then they find it odd.

So long as it's internally consistent, anything goes. Just make sure you have fun.

>>46302584
>He tried doing it with quests, but they were far more quick to stamp him out.
rather than stamped out, it's more like it was drowned by the sheer volume of content being churned out compared to civs in general.

Also that one anon who may have taken one for the team.

>>46302839
Who?

>>46292584
Bump.

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Who would win? Monstermen or monstergirls?

>>46304924
Why not both?

>>46304924
I would.

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>>46304924
The skeletons.

>>46304924
My favourite monsters.

I'm quite a newfag to this board and unfortunately since my computer is still boxed up somewhere (recently moved) I only have my mobile.

However, how many of you would be interested in me running a Yeti Civ thread? I will probably give them custom stats to begin with...but just wondering if anyone would be interested in playing?

>>46305089
Yes.

>>46305089
Eh, don't really care

>>46305089
It can be a civilization of kitchen ants for all I care. The only thing that matters is how good the story and execution are, and not abandoning the thread.

>>46298664

>>46302584
Nice try, troll. There you go shitposting again.

Is there any way to play civ games IRL? I love the concept and want to play it with my friends, But don't want to find a forum or simmilar hosting site for the pictures and what not. Is it suited to IRL game-night play? Pen and paper maps and what not?

>>46308499
Pottentially yea.. It's doable although I've got no clue on how. why not just go full catan, maybe a bigger board, minis for armies and such. I dunno

>>46308546
I was thinking of using a TV screen hooked to my computer by a HDMI cable. On the tv is an image of the map, which I alter with on my computer between turns and put the updated map on the screen for my players to see. I'm on a university campus that seems to have sufficient spaces for this.

>>46292584
Bump

Currently devving civgame with more defined ruleset (so you can potentially play it on normal tabletop and stuff).

Are you guys interested? Have anyone tried to do something like this?

>>46310727
It sounds pretty cool senpai, i'd love to use something like that to start building a world you could later use for regular stuff.

>>46310727
I sure as hell am interested although I don't know anyone to have tried

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>>46305089
I would.

>>46305089
You have my interest

>>46305089
>custom stats
What kind of stats?

>>46302584
This. Million times this.

>>46310727
I'd definitely love to see what you come up with, but personally I'll always prefer a more freeform approach. A defined ruleset always ends up limiting the available options and can never properly account for player ingenuity (or insanity, or stupidity) the way a decent freeforming CM can.

Hey, any CM's online that can play a game of civ? I would start one, but I'm pretty bad at it.

>>46314155
You know what? I'll start one, and see how it goes

>>46314220
Goof luvk. I'd play, but I'm pretty knackered.

>>46314220
Make sure you link it here

Should I be worried if I can't post?

>>46314422
Never mind!

>>46314267

>>46314472
Neat

>>46292584
Bump

>>46317877
Dude stop.
No one is going to answer you

>>46318759
The thread's dying so I'm bumping it and the question

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In the name of Excrement and Mirth, I'm gonna try to make a Sci-Fi Civ Chart, races heavily inspired by ayy lmao encounters with a dab of current tropes. This will be more of an experiment/attempt at fun, and is actually antithetic to how I would run a space quest. I digress.

What do ya'll think about stat equivalents?
>Growth
>Aggression
>Individuality
>Culture
>Industry
>Science
>Psionics

As for possible races...
>Astronauts
>Cosmonauts
>Greys
>Star Child
>Brood
>Hivemind
>Mothmen
>A.I.
>Reptilians
>Morphs
>Babes
>Little Green Men

Any others I should look at and/or trade out?

>>46320117
Make the Gray aliens a hivemind.

>>46320117
Make the little green men reptilians

>>46320117
>Astronauts
>Cosmonauts
What is this, 1989?

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>>46320765
>>46320890
Done. Grey lore is great.

>>46320892
I wish.

I suppose we can just have Astros,
What do you all think of Astros having a support/service species ala Chimps or Dogs or (insert critter here) as a race mechanic?

>>46321061
Clever and cool. They should have both.

>>46321061
Spaceman Skeletons from failed attempts to colonise space

>>46320117
Any Flatwoods Monsters? (exosuits)
or Hopkinsville Goblins?

Will Ghoul Civ ever return?

Has anyone tried to run an Insect race that wasn't a hivemind with mutating genes but a static race like Formain or Thri-Keen?

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>>46321234
Yes. I was debating whether having a coalition of the more "mythos" ones, but I love the Flatwoods Exo idea. Goblins as well.

Any on this chart that I should look at?

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>>46321282
I did, I DM'd and played as the Insect civ cause the players insisted, but I wasn't really trying to win or anything, I intentionally razed and devoured villages I took so my hive would eventually starve itself and collapse under it's weight, I would've self-capitulated in the event of a civ-conflict anyhow, I wanted the players to have fun, not me

I like ants so it was basically oversized Formicidae killing and being killed over more land (I made the voracious hunger thing more of a lethal wound than an inconvenience like the chart states), I was eventually sending workers to steal fucking livestock, foodstores got that desperate

Only mutations I took were corrosive acid for fortification building

>>46321488
You should DM a new civ game.

>>46308576
irlnon back, wondering if anyone else had some input or tips

>>46321488
How'd you make that map?

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>>46321707
it's ironic back when I wanted to do civ quests, I had an overbearing and obsessive girlfriend, but now after I dumped her I haven't had the desire to run / play them.

My mistake not running a game during spring break when I had the time. I'll look into it in the future anon, gathering ideas and events for a future multi-civ quest

>>46321772
A free to use mapmaker tool called Hexographer, takes about an hour or so to learn how to use adeptly

I made >>46321787 as a carbon copy of my local town in Long Island, so if you're lacking inspiration just draw it from what's near you

you can get it here at
http://www.hexographer.com/free-version/

>>46321725
This is great. I've run a civ like game with each player having their own civ, but that was via PnP.

Set up the TV as an extension of the main screen, naturally. As to programs, what would you be using? Hexographer? What text program would you use for tracking?

>>46321282
There was one that was borderline /d/.
We were going to be pretty much Sexy Bug Girl Tyranids.
I was part of it. I liked it.

>>46321891
i was thinking of either hexographer or just a hand drawn thing in firealpaca, But come to think of it that would be a bit of a pain, wouldn't it?

I was thinking of just using a google doc shared between players and a DM version.

>>46322007
Hexographer would be a good choice, but make sure you are very familiar with it, especially its GM and shroud modes.

>Google Doc Shared
Will your players have laptops? From a session perspective having them actually have laptops might lead to distractions.

However, shared doc is a good idea. And never forget that Google Sheets can be useful for resource talling and such. I've used it to good effect in mine.

>>46321896
/d/ civ when?

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>>46322260
I wonder if they'd let you run it on /d/ proper.

>>46323088
Eh, I'd much prefer a /d/-lite civ on /tg/.
>>46321787
Also, here's a suggestion
/d/-lite civ

>>46320117
I would play a civ of AI in space.
All glory to the machine

>>46323594
Wouldn't that be Hive Queen Quest: Robot Edition?

>>46323629
Sounds good to me.

>>46323629
>Hive Queen Quest: Robot Edition

That would literally be A.I. Quest, which directly inspired Hive Queen.
It was good, look it up.

Is there a random event generator or chart available online that work we'll for civ games?

>>46324499
Some guy posted some cool event cards in the previous thread, but I'm too lazy to go look for it.

Myrmidon still haunts this board? Fuck. He was why I stopped coming to the civ general. He literally hasn't changed at all

Is anyone going to be an MVP and host that molerat-folk or yeti game people were asking for awhile back?

>>46328122
I always wanted Molerat dwarfs

>>46308499
there are boardgames that work, beginning with Avalon Hill's Civilization.

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgamecategory/1015/civilization

Even if you want to do your own game, you may use the parts/tokens/maps of one of these.

>>46328513
Also, if you don't want to pay for a board game, check the virtual copies on www.vassalengine.org or perhaps on roll20.net (I never used these, so I can't give any advice).

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>>46328449

Or just straight up giant non-humanoid mole rats.

Someone please host this.

>>46329516
But that would involve incest, Anon.

Does reddit or some other website run civs?

>>46329516

Does a Hivequenn count as incest?

>>46330720

* Hive Queen

>>46330471
Cripple Chan has a quest board, and I think I might have seen something akin to this at Spacebattles. Hell, I've run a few in meatspace but I have yet to find anywhere that does it as easily and fun as here.

Where the fuck is Goblin Master?

Rolled 21, 1, 14, 14, 22, 2, 13, 14, 18, 22, 14, 14, 5, 22, 11, 4 = 211 (16d25)

>>46333358
Dice

Can someone start a civ of one of the races talked about here? I'm so ready to play.

>>46334284
Feel free to pick one.>>46274600

>>46334294

Gross. Mole rat-folk and yetis please.

>>46334405
I'm just down for whatever.
start one you nerd

>>46334489

I have just enough time to play a decent amount, but not enough to actually host in its entirety. Wouldn't want to make another shit-post civ.

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Which civ would be the most religious/spiritual?

>>46334566
>Meta Civ
Play as 2deep4u autist warriors conquering the lands

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>>46274522
I was thinking of doing a Halfling (Gypsy-like, not Tolkien English Hobbit like) civ in an abandoned Necropolis, maybe they stay here because they are fleeing persecution (because nobody likes Halflings). I would like to see if any anons here would be interested in this and if so I would start it either later today or on Friday. I'll probably start using the tripcode since today, just in case.
>Pic releted: shit ms paint map

>>46334598

Probably, the Basphiarks. >>46274600

>>46334770

I'd be down for something new today. However, can you explain what role this race would play? I have a feeling halflings might not be your best choice.

>>46334770
I would play this.

>>46334806
Halflings are very sneaky, not necessarily good, and can be proficient with magic. But mostly because I like Halflings.

>>46335020

My point was, I felt as if kobolds or serpent-folk would be better gypsies. After all, they're not big scary villains, but just things no one likes, and they can use magic. Still, do hobbits if your heart desires.

/d/lite civ when

My Kolbold Civ from yesterday is back up!

>>46336164

>>46336005
Wouldn't that be just a fap-feast?

>>46327738
There is no escape.

Lots of demand for a PROMOTION Civ.

Remember this is a blue board

>>46336240
Is that a bad thing?

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So the perfect Civ right now would be a space /d/ominion, possibly with insects.

Huh.

>>46337029
>space is filled with animalgirl babes, tentacle monsters, hermaphrodites and other /d/things
Huh.

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>>46337067
>Your Civ is a genetically deteriating human colony that must actively subdue and breed with said aliens to save your race while actively selecting for desirable traits, all while designing spaceships and fighting off opposing horny human factions.

>>46337187
Huh.

>>46337187
Eh

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So, in the spirit of Transparency and Homonculi civ coming to an end soon(ish), I'd like to share my thoughts on some civs I'm interested in doing up in the near future and would love to hear your guys opinions on what you'd like to see done up or hear suggestions, etc..

>Crystallid Civ
The default go to- have been talking about it a lot before and have established very much what I intend on doing with it: no-sex, mineral people, little bit of war/competition, IN SPACE, at the dawn of time pre-any forms of life. Lots of spiritual shenanigans- perhaps even a little more so than cyclops civ. If you want more of what Cyclops civ was- you'll like this.

>Undead Civ
More of a "city-state" or "country" manager than an entire civilization: we would focus around the undead ruler of an Undead country forming on the outskirts or within the referenced "Rotwood" and try to make a safe haven and city for sapient/aware undead. Each session would be about "10 years" and gameplay would focus on expanding and upgrading your country to make it more appealing to undead migrants and refugees as well as dealing with the unique societal and cultural problems faced by such a multitude of different undead trying to live peacefully and so forth. The first choice players would indeed make is what 'type' of undead they'd wish to be the leader. If you want more political intrigue, drama and conflict- you'll like this.

>Bee Girl Civ
We do up a tribe of 1ft tall cute bee girls in a pristine, untouched and beautiful "dire" woods: far from any civilization the aim of the game would be a mix of survival and cute bee girls (and a couple of cute bee boys) doing cute bee things lead by a big, curvy, 2ft tall 'giantess' (by their standards) queen bee. Would mostly be a for-fun/joke civ that would be moe-garbage that I could run on autopilot, though depending on how poorly we do it would very well go madoka pretty hard. If you want me to do something Harvest-moon esque then you might like this.

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>>46337542
>The first choice players would indeed make is what 'type' of undead they'd wish to be the leader.

We demand skeletons!

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>>46337542

Oh and the fourth bonus option:

>/D/emon Civ.
If you guys know where I could host a horribly nsfw /d/-tier civilization: I'm not at all opposed to doing one up -uncensored-. You know, just a bunch of /D/emons- From the mildly to wildly referenced "Red world" tryin' to make a living in their horrifically sexually charged native realm. I guess the "first choice" given could be a choice between what sort of Demon Lord you'd wish to follow.. And that would set the pace for goals/fetishes, I.E: a hermaphroditic giantess omnibus, maybe an Imp Gang Boss or a swarm of Succubi/incubi- Who knows.
Should be a good time.

>>46337542
Do the Bee Girl civ!
I demand cuteness!
And lewds.

>>46337765
Yeah, I was thinking in something giantess related too. I totally wouldn't mind if it was autistically bizarre and disturbing, just for fun. The bigger the /d/ier.

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>>46337542
I like the Undead civ.

>>46337765
Perhaps /d/ civ but chargen instead of demons

>>46322260
If you're wondering what went on in that civ, basically, to make spidergrils, we "experimented" [/spoiler]Read:Had sex.[/spoiler] with captured/enslaved Elf grils, and the Queen herself personally "experimented" Read:Had sex with captured males. Nothing came out of that one though.

We also decided that the Spidergirls were priestesses of our Queen, who we decided was our Goddess of Fertility, and Beauty. Our Queen was a Spidergirl before we created Spidergirls.

>>46323088
Nah, /d/oesn't allow quests. Even if your dubs would allow us to.

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>>46337644
>>46337872

I'm thinking for the Undead Civ the leader choice would be about balancing the skills, personality and so forth of the Undead leader since different undead would have different goals, skill-set and would leave a different impression on their people.
Here's a basic example, but something like:

>Skeleton Lord or King
Stereotypical "laughing skeleton". Has been dead for so long he's rotten away to a skeleton; no longer remembering who or what he used to be, but is using this as a chance to claim royalty. A mild to wild psycopath- He is generous and liberal with wine and merriment and although mildly racist against the living he is the most accepting to all undead types.

>Vampire Lord
Excessively beautiful, handsome and charismatic 'young' vampire who's out to 'stake' a claim for himself and build his first country. Overall the "well-balanced" choice: equally invested in the lives of his undead subjects, but not opposed to accepting living outsiders (he needs a court of consorts, followers and a source of living blood after all). Very much a RTS kind of chap.

>Bashful Necromancer
A quiet and shy Necromancer; she works a lot behind the scenes or is otherwise the "woman behind the curtain" for her people. Not interested in the drama of political intribue: she just wishes to build a secure and cozy home for her undead 'family'. Very much a ""This Land is Peaceful, its Inhabitants Kind" sort of gal. Only leader who can CREATE more undead as opposed to accepting migrants for population growth. Is herself not undead.

>>46338210
>no pharaoh/lich option

>>46338430
The skeleton can't be a Lich? The necromancer girl can't an egyptian-themed queen? Use your imagination brah, don't make other people use it for you.

>>46338210
>>Vampire Lord
I like him.
>>46338430
How about a vampire pharaoh?

>>46338210
>Laughing skeleton
muh dick I need this

>>46338722
>Vampire Pharaoh Tomb King Lich

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>>46338430
>no pharaoh/lich option

You're perfectly welcome and encouraged to make suggestions.

Another concept/idea I had for a leader option:

>Creeper Nun
Made from the harvested and gutted organs of at least a dozen nuns, held together with wrappings torn and made from sacred texts- She was an attempt at making an Undead immune to "Holy". The same type of undead as Elizabeth from Homonculi Quest: The Creeper nun would be the theocratic choice as despite her creators intentions she wishes to create a religion and seek a god that would provide comfort and hope for all undead. She'd be the "weirdest" choice for sure.

>>46338840
Well, shit. The Creeper Nun sounds interesting.

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Working on some stuff for a civ thread I'm gonna run on Friday.

>>46340342
Sounds good for sheep people but will there be rams? They would need them for warriors.

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>>46340342
You made that stat section yourself? Are there gonna be more like it?

>>46340342
Are you working on a monstergirl chart?

>>46338210
Hey Cy, you take civ suggestions, right?

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>>46340403
It's not really mentioned on the stat card but there are different castes with different properties. That said, the Lanatae are basically the domesticated variant of sheepgirls so they don't have any castes dedicated to combat.
>>46340428
I based it on an old chart (pic related) but yeah. As for whether there will be others, I plan on a couple more.
>>46340436
Nope.

>>46340472
>Hey Cy, you take civ suggestions, right?

I do.
Do you have a suggestion?
I'd be happy to consider it and give you my impression of how I'd do it up.

>>46340655
>>46274599

Dinosauroids and loxo?

>>46340528
What are all the races you're planning for the chart?

>>46340865
I'm not making a chart, but the races I'm planning to make cards for (because they will be in the civ game I'm running) are cat girls, dog girls, and bunny girls. The basic premise is that most of the beast races were early Great Migrators fleeing the monster races and now Rome's unwilling and/or unable to continue protecting the beastmen so the journey to new lands begins anew.

>>46341018
So we'll be one tribe eking out a living while fighting other tribes? Is it gonna be very 'settling the frontier' style?

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>>46340655
Well I had a few different ones.

The one I tried to do was Golem Civ a few months back. But it went no where because I hated how I ended up running it. I make a terrible QM/CM

The Golems are the creation of the Forge God of the Setting, and have lived underground since as long as they can remember.
How ever an earthquake up roots them and forces them to move above ground.
There they come into conflict with other races.

The furthest we got was pissing off the Elves that lived in a near by forest by cutting down their trees to make a new settlement.

The golems are a peaceful race that love forging and creating new technology.
To them, weapons and armor are not only tools, but art.
They have 'gender' of a sort.
Male Golems have a blue glow to the stone in their chest. Which is called a Soul Stone, a small, nearly indestructible stone that houses the Golems very essence.
Female Golems soul stone glows pink.
When a male and female golem fall in love, they create a body of a child like Golem and use a Soul Stone to create new ones.
Soul Stones are created by Priests of the Forge God.
The child Golem usually grows to 'adulthood' within 16 years, with the average life span being about 1000 years, before their soul is called back to the Forge God.

They are weak to lightening and explosives.

Should they ever encounter Flesh Golems, they would harbor an unrelenting hatred for them and destroy them as quick as possible.

They would naturally be good at creating new items, mining and such.
But suffer poorly in magic and other related areas.
Being Golems, they do not require rest, but do chose to do so, so that they may spend time with their 'families', if they have one.

Thoughts?

>>46341077
It's going to be set in the equivalent of the Hunnic (monstergirl) invasion of Europe, with the beast races basically being the Germanic peoples.

>>46341266
What will be the playable races?

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>>46341266
Please tell me there are beast race Roman auxiliaries

>>46341284
I'm running sheepgirl civ.
>>46341333
Absolutely.

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>>46340830
>Dinosauroids and loxo?

>Animal people.

(I know Dinosaurids aren't technically animal people, but they're included in this as a technicality)

Generally speaking I try to refrain from choosing or picking any sort of Animal people.
I don't really enjoy Animal people as a "Civilization" building species given how MANY of them there are and how similar they are all to one another in general theme in feel.

I mentioned Bee Girls as a potential "Civ" because it would be a break from serious Civving and be cute girls/boys doing cute bee things.

I greatly appreciate Animal People as a kind of complimentary or footnote species: a product of a world being excessively magical and fertile to the point where there's a primitive sub-division of animal person in almost every environment.
They never amount to much of anything, but they walk a thin line between "people" and "animal"- and if existing in a vacuum never advancing beyond the point of being above nature, but at the same time being "sophisticated enough" to assimilate well into more advanced species civilizations.

They're basically, uh.. They're like a HomoHabilis kind of stage: Too in-line with being an animal to truly advance, but just humanoid enough if they get outside help they'll quietly roll into society.
So, yeah, that's my stance on Animal People.

>>46341230
You have a lot of "don't need rest but choose to/see rest as a positive"

Not saying it's bad, seeing as it makes sense for the subject races, just an observation.

Otter Quest is back!

>>46341794

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>>46341230
>Thoughts?

Honestly it just sounds like you know/knew everything you need to know right down to what you did wrong: You picked a race, but got tired of it.

Which is a classic blunder, but realistically one that you never see coming.

I don't know exactly what to tell you, but from my experience with my two civs:

I guess the best thing you can do or learn from these kinds of situations is you have to constantly have things going on, evolving and developing: Complacency in your civ, race, etc.. Eventually kills it as all the fun and magic gets sucked out of it and from that point on everything seems to just spiral down.
You gotta make it exciting for your players and you have to make it exciting for yourself.

Things need to "go wrong" and your people have to have "problems", etc.

>>46341556
Whoops, thought you were cyclops op.

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>mfw No bear civs

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>>46344192
You could make one, anon.

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>>46344192
>Nobody wants to do Panserbjorn

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>>46344236
DILF but not what I meant.
>>46344291
Why is that? Seems like a good civ to play.

>>46340342
I'd join this civ.

And I'd look at the hentai for it.

>>46341552
>I don't really enjoy Animal people as a "Civilization" building species given how MANY of them there are and how similar they are all to one another in general theme in feel.

That's when you start mixing it up. Just the difference in physical characteristics would make wildly distinct species. Then we add in magical and mythical shit and voila!

>They never amount to much of anything, but they walk a thin line between "people" and "animal"- and if existing in a vacuum never advancing beyond the point of being above nature, but at the same time being "sophisticated enough" to assimilate well into more advanced species civilizations.
See, there's where i disagree with you. My biggest gripe with beastmen is that they're always portrayed as something between "ravenous horde" and "noble savages" or, if we take certain sources, "noble savages being forcefully civilized by mighty human D". This is boring. This is not only boring, but IS the reason
>I don't really enjoy Animal people as a "Civilization" building species given how MANY of them there are and how similar they are all to one another in general theme in feel.
exists. You cannot have different beastmen if you do nothing different.

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>>46340528
wow thanks anon for using my chart for inspiration- heres the "latest" if you want it-(or for anyone else)----------------------------

i think im going to take a hiatus from the civ community, dont worry ill check in every once in a while (and still try to make it to Cyclops' civ threads if i can, sorry for missing the last one pretty much)

to me it honestly is starting to feel a bit....dull and overdone- does anyone else feel like this?i've had some ideas to make it different but i havent had the motivation to put forth the effort lately....
im glad to see the civ community thriving again once more though

Rolled 11, 20, 22, 25, 15, 15, 13, 20, 7, 24, 3, 17, 20, 11, 10, 22 = 255 (16d25)

>>46333358
I can't decide if I love or hate this chart.

>The Evo thread is still dead
Bruh, where are you OP..?

>to me it honestly is starting to feel a bit....dull and overdone- does anyone else feel like this?
Literally everyone on /tg/ who isn't on this thread.

Everyone keeps wondering why civ threads keep dying. The interest is not there.
Scrapping the charts might go a little ways towards not scaring off people.

Honestly, I think civ players and CMs should migrate to www.nationstates.net or the like.
Maybe we'll return to /tg/ one day, but the age of civilisation has passed.

>>46347732
>to me it honestly is starting to feel a bit....dull and overdone- does anyone else feel like this?
>Literally everyone on /tg/ who isn't on this thread.

I hold this exact sentiment one way or another and it is largely the reason why I only host civs once a week despite requests.

questions to CMs

is anyone using the 6d6 technique to counter the shitty below average dice rolls on this board, or are you rolling your own IRL dice?

and how do you account for multiple tech bonuses in combat rolls, do you roll one or multiple dices or take that into account manually when writing the outcome?

>>46347962
I tried it, but it was surprisingly....low.

Not too many people understand how to add negatives either, so all in all, there are better things to try. I think next time, I'll just ask for rolls less often and use 3d6 best of 3 when I DO ask for rolls.

>>46347693
He evolved, Anon

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Pixies > Fairies
Prove me wrong.

>>46347732

Couldn't disagree with you more. I'm not the best example, as part 2 of Otter Quest was sadly cut short by my own personal life, but I feel as if the interest in Civ Quests isn't dying, but simply growing tired of the same ol' formula.

Snows Kolbold Quest and the one mindflayer one is proof that not only can Civ Quests be improved with races that aren't usually picked, but can also be funny and lighthearted comedic tales of dub abuse.

>>46352020
also tundra civ is very much alive and has above average participation

>>46352020
Thanks for saying that man!
Now question, should I do the Kolbold Civ at the same time as yesterday or an hour before?

>>46352083
samefag here again, forgot to say i agree with >>46352020
and i think a big issue is the same repetitive slow start every time puts off a lot of people

>>46352171
The whole having to research things that nomads knew before they settled thing? Because that bothers me about these games.

>>46352257
yeah

>>46352148

I'm just one vote, but I say start it an hour early.

>>46352773
Someone else said that at the end of the last one as well, so an hour earlier it shall be

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Alright, /civ/ here's challenge (for my upcoming system mostly, i'm now testing how unique cultural stuff works).
What would be civ's greatest cultural achievement? Something that people automatically recall when thinking of your civ, like Eiffel town for France, Great Wall for China or spurdo memes for Finland?

Feel free to pick any civilization or make up your own, i need food for thought.

>>46353071
Ant people would make gigantic ziggurat-mounds that act as entrances to their colonies

Either that or pyramids. Lots of pyramids.

>>46353071

I can imagine harpies building some Tower of Babel-like structure.

>>46352837

What time will it start today?

>>46353071
Slimes would be a grand nest made out of a large source of water. Sort like a the Hanging Gardens.

>>46353071
A giant war machine. Practically indestructible, everyone knows what it looks like, and everyone knows that they're fucked if they're on the recieving end of it.

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>>46353956
Hmm, i was thinking only of cultural features, but something else being so well-known that it gives the one who has it cultyral influence is an interesting idea.

>>46354208
Convincing the world that the Third War for Independence was solely about slavery.

Convincing the world that "muh 6 trillion" excuses humanitarian abuse.

>>46353610
In 45 mins

>>46354680
Do you have link to previous threads so I can catch up?

>>46314267 = First Thread
>>46336164 = Second Thread

Latest Kolbold Thread!

>>46355535

>>46347732
im not sure if you're the only one whos saying that the "chart needs to be scrapped"- i dont think thats the problem, as its the template....(maybe im biased though, because of how much time i've spent on the damn thing..)
i think what make cyclops civs so fun is he incorporated things other than "lmao roll to kill XX people ETC" and it actually had somewhat of a story-
i have some ideas that could revolutionize civs as we know but i need alot of time and i dont want to waste it if its just going to be pushed aside.

as far as migrating, i think thats a terrible idea as it takes away from...the community in more than one way- it would change the format and playstyle and i highly suggest NOT moving, but trying to create new and exciting ways to play/create for civs to be fun(im not saying they're not fun but like i said, they get dull and...almost tedious if i may)

1 idea i had- is to have a community of people dedicated to the cause and make a rules template, a "set setting", and among other things as a base- so that people are more motivated, like i said people dont have to carbon copy it but just to give them ideas.
as far as your claim for the age of civ passing, i disagree, i believe its just a "dark age" for civs at the moment-i could elaborate more but i believe you all get the gist of what i mean

as far as the community, it could be a good idea, it could be a horrible idea, but i would like to know what the "star players" think- just to name a few (crog,cyclops,jyoti,shmeh, sorry if i missed anyone)
if so i could create a group on steam/skype whatever the case may be and we could start creating a schedule and get some shit done.
>>46347884
>>46352020
we need to really get some people together and thinks of ways to make things more interesting in the long run----

i really dont want civs to just be a burned mark on /tg/ and have it fade away- especially with how much time i've spent on trying to keep the community as a whole alive
thoughts?

>>46357709

Agreed. However, this thread is too far bumped to have a fun discussion on new improvements.

If you want to be cheered up though, come visit our Kolbold thread- it's on fire right now!

>>46342998

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>>46347884
Here. Have a qt bee gril to cheer you up.

SURPISE! It's not lewd!

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Top five civs you played GO!

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>>46363546
None

>>46363546
my first civ which was some vampire count after his city exploded

insect civ where you can find on suptg, forget the name

there wasa civ site and we had a Xenomorph civ, loved every second of it

I ran a post-apocalyptic zombie civ (two technically, one modern day, another fantasy) and the fantasy one lasted a while and was pretty much well reviewed, wish I never stopped it

bompity bampity bump

>>46363546
Matyroshka
NoviceQM's trolls
Hive queen still counts
The Slime I ran? I enjoyed running it, anyway.

Top 5 is kinda hard.

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Goodnight, beautiful QMs.

Should we just roll civ general and evo general into /qtg/? Not a lot happens here anyway

>>46367346
Merge civ and evo generals, but not into quest generals

Rolled 56 (1d100)

>>46367346
Mmm, I don't know about that. Odd;yes Even:no

>>46367346
I wasn't aware that there was an evo general so it's probably best to merge that with something, but civ games are sufficiently different from quests to merit a separate general even if activity is slower.

>>46371491
>but civ games are sufficiently different from quests
They're not. Not at all

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Is anyone a Warcraft fan? How would you feel about an Elseworlds version as Azol'Nerub, playing as Nerubians, winning the War of the Spider, and direct events from there?

>>46371793
I think if you fail to recognize the differences between a civ thread and a quest thread then you really can't say anything on the subject.

>>46321488
My nigga! I was the undead!

It gets boring waiting for Snow all day. Someone start something.

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I'm new to civ quests but want to run one sort of civvy in nature. How do you guys usually take care of things like resource, finance and manpower management?

>>46372321
Wing it.

>>46372321
Exact numbers are more trouble than they're worth, unless you manage to set up a huge excel sheet and plug in inputs whenever you feel like it.

Try to narrow it down to qualitative assessments:
>what do you want to accomplish with X management?
>What are the important milestones in quantity, how does each milestone impact things, and how quickly/easily can a resource switch milestons?
>Be wary of power/consumption creep, because it will often render all your carefully balanced mechanics useless
>Be EXTRA wary of population increase, because that usually messes up EVERYTHING with constant updates to what counts as "much" food, etc.

>>46372406
I agree that I don't want to make it too exact but I just want it to act as a limiting factor. Endless money and endless manpower and endless ships simply make everything too easy and uncomplicated. It simply exists as a challenge, as a knowledge of how strong you and your empire are.

>>46372429
I wasn't suggesting that?

>>46372321
Binary do you have access to this item or not. Got this luxury? Your people are happier. Got this rare resource? Your army is now upgraded to use it. Got that resource? Unlocked a school of magic. If you want an actual number simulator, make a spreadsheet and try to simulate how it will look like after X turns so see if the numbers are still logical to you. Then you can use that spreadsheet to calculate fast between turns. Normally people just half ass it and keep it as ambiguous as possible.

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>>46371918
Try not to have a spasm next time someone doesn't share your opinion. It could help you later on in life. Quests, in general, can be quite different from one another. One can be only about the main character and a story, another can be about an upstart with a guild simulator with recruits and a spreadsheet. The main character being an abstract civ or a hero leading the civ is just more of the same. Players still roleplay a council or voices in someone's head. I never did see the merit in separating civs from the main quest general, except that as an act of courtesy the quest general is reserved usually for weekends (after that anti-questfag janitor had a stroke about them and eventually got kicked, but the community kept this habit). But it would, at least, increase popularity slightly further via mingling and proper search tags. Having the quest tag on your civ thread would already show up on many more users' catalogs.