Eclipse Phase General - Gatecrasher Edition

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>>46235012

>inb4 aids

>>46235012
Th-that's not proper gatcrashing gear!

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>>46235012
That bitch is gonna get an exsurgent infection in about three seconds without her vacsuit. She must be one hell of a dicksucker to have gotten on a gatecrash op with a bimbo ego like that.

>>46235012

I've only touched on gatecrashing once so far, which was Giza. I LOVE the Black Box relics from Giza and when we had a few no-shows to the regular campaign we said "FUCK IT" and I improv'd a gatecrashing one-shot using forks of the main group retrieving a xeno-artifact from Giza.

>>46235359

It is when you're a crasher.

>>46235359

Not first-in gear, no, but it would be acceptable on one of the more widely explored and better understood exoplanets .

>>46235361
Not all exoplanets are seething hives of exsurgents waiting to be unleashed. In fact, most aren't. You're in more danger from exhumans and rival political groups than exsurgency when gatecrashing. That is, assuming that the entire gatecrashing network isn't a single cosmic roach motel waiting to snap shut, in which case your precautions don't matter anyway.

>>46235359

What this Plesure Pod doing in my garden? With the gun?

>>46235484
Pretty much this. While some people will insist on "Crasher suit with life support pack, double-wrapped guardian nanoswarm built into the armor and nanophages in the morph itself whenever not in the base dome, scan for infection on everyone coming or going and burn anyone who looks even a bit funny" school of thought, others, once they've discovered you can actually breathe the air without choking and dying due to composition and/or alien histamines, they'll switch to open air domes and unsealed armor because colonies are cheaper that way.

>>46235486
Can't wait for alien fungus in those raindrops to start eating her skin then. Bitch is asking for trouble.

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>>46235618

Pfft, It's like you've never run in a Theseus or Crasher morph. Half the fun is walking naked into situations which should kill lesser transhumans.

>>46235618
It's not first contact gear you nincopomp.

>>46235618
>Can't wait for alien fungus in those raindrops to start eating her skin then.
That's why the corps invented medichines and nanophages, anon.
>>46235683
If you're in enough shit to warrant a Theseus, you probably should be double or triple wrapped, in environmentally sealed armor, and EMPing the the shit out of the general area, though. Crashers are just flexible exoplanet survival morphs, Theseus are designed to walk into exsurgent hives and walk back out again.

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>>46235683
I just wanna see some whore explode into a bodyhorror mess of alien parasites without getting griefed!

>>46235724

(I know, but the Theseus art is much better than the Crasher art)

>>46235744
The crasher art is a shit, yes, which is very disappointing when the ruster art turned out so well.

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>>46235769

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>>46235792

>>46235792
After boobplate, boobsuit.

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>>46235817

Whats wrong with eclipse phase?

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>>46235838

>>46235832

Really, a Crasher doesn't typically need heavy environment gear. In typical sci-fi fashion I assume light vac gear is fairly skin tight.

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>>46235883

>>46235860

Nothing that can't be fixed

>>46235860
People don't like the nakedly pro-anarchist political bias and like to claim it's more SJW-y and/or magical realmy than it really is. It's also not the lightest or most graceful system, and the total surveillance society and 'death is cheap' aspects of the setting make some traditional plots hard.

Does anyone have good art of remades? Maybe art that isn't necessarily an Ultimate either.

>>46235860
The core book is a bit scattered with some things.

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>>46235912

Since I'm on the morph art kick, let's post the Alpiner and other Theseus while I'm at it.

>>46235935

And maybe the couple arts of the Remade too. Ultimates crash in those sometimes.

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>>46235955

>>46235883

Honestly, I would have thought synthmorphs made more sense than biomorphs for crashers. Easier to fix if things go wrong and don't have as many requirements to keep alive.

(Obviously this doesn't work if you're crashing to Solemn, but that planet is made of bullshit)

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>>46235966

>>46235955
That art always bugged me just a little bit. Not in an SJW-y way so much as the fact that she's supposedly a Martian Ranger on duty, but she looks like she's about to head to the Wild West themed dance club and get a one night stand. Show some professionalism, woman, damn.

>>46235918

>"death is cheap" makes some traditional plots hard

Not necessarily. It certainly recontexualises a lot of things and death ISN'T cheap; a decent morph costs thousands of credits, to say nothing of the loss of time, the risk of indenture etc etc inherent in the resleeving process.

Certainly a traditional murder mystery has to be adapted in EP; the victim might be a great witness. Hell, you might be hired BY the victim to find out who killed them, or contracted by their organisation to retrieve their stack before the reboot clause in their insurance kicks in and functionally the person "loses" six months plus whatever valuable knowledge might be from that time. On the other hand, missing persons cases still work just fine.

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>>46235991

>>46236003

90% of people have that complaint.

>>46236003

At least her legs are covered?

Actually, those kneepads mean she's probably less a stripper and more of a hooker.

>>46235968
>Honestly, I would have thought synthmorphs made more sense than biomorphs for crashers.
Yes and no. There are the xu fu, both kites, reaper, and various other adaptable morphs that are great for crashing, but the problem it always comes back to is that people just don't like sleeving metal and want to explore the galaxy as flesh. Right or wrong, that's the facts of life and how the wind is blowing.

>>46236003
>>46236037
>Not giving a show while on patrol

>>46235618
>alien fungus is adapted to target humans

You're more likely to catch Dutch elm disease

>>46236003
>get a one night stand

Implying she already hasn't gotten one. Why do you think the monkey is smoking?

>>46235883
Skintight doesn't mean it's body paint.

>>46236003
Enough people thought it was stupid that in the latest version they actually went and edited it so that she's at least wearing a bodystocking under her underwear.

>>46235968

Gatecrashing describes the tiers of entry into a new Gate address, probes and unmanned bots come before Synths comes before fleshies in vacsuits (as needed).

While Synthmorphs do have lower maintenance requirements, they're only easier to fix if you have the right tools available, or go slapping them with aftermarket mods (which can always cause a fuss in some circles). Every biomorph will recover from just about any physical injury if you just make sure to shove rations into their face and let them rest. And since there's no emulation or anything, most biomorphs "run" pretty smoothly as far as basic processes go. And you don't have to worry about body disconnect, or expensive or uncanny packages to get expression right.

That very last bit might not be super important on a gatecrashing trip, but hey, can a Synth Morph let you know a gribbly exofauna is right behind you silently just by a facial expression?

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>>46236080

Y'know, you joke, but in one of the EP fiction stories the character has sex with a martian ranger, and she tells him to shower real good after or her baboons will kick his shit if they smell her on him.

>>46236175

>they're only easier to fix if you have the right tools available

Repair spray. It's like nanobandages, except for people that don't also have to eat, breathe and not-explosively-decompress.

>can a synthmorph communicate by facial expression

If it's not a Case or a Spare, probably.

>>46236175
>only easier to fix if you have the right tools available, or go slapping them with aftermarket mods
So do that

>>46236252
>>she tells him to shower real good after
>He actually showers
>He doesn't optimize his metabolism and body scents to be naturally pleasant and clean himself via dedicated nanoswarm.
>>46236296
>>46236175
>Repair spray.
Or, you know, medichines, which are [Low] cost and solve so many problems for anyone and everyone that there's literally no excuse not to have them.

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>>46236175
Though, and I might be mistaken, it's still mentioned in one of the morph descriptions that synths are significantly more popular than bio morphs for gate crashing anyway.

Think it was the Nomad.

>>46236296
Even a case can have a digital display add-on at trivial cos

t>>46236175
>can a Synth Morph let you know a gribbly exofauna is right behind you silently just by a facial expression?

A synth can give you a live feed of what it's seeing over radio

>>46236034
I wish there was more art of remades. Something about them really captured my heart when I was first reading through the rulebook. They're still my favorite morph, and they have some negative connotations in setting but they're definitely what I'd want to have if I was living in the EP universe.

Speaking of, where would you prefer to live and what morph would you have?

>>46236361
Definitely flexbot

Live anywhere corps won't be trying to push their shit on me. Extropia, outer system, kuiper belt, wherever.

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>>46236296

>If it's not a Case or a Spare, probably.

HMMM...

>>46236296
>>46236314
>>46236321

While useful, Medichines or Repair Spray is aftermarket/tools, and can have complications with... whatever the synth version of Aggressive GRM is. Obviously, that's not normally, but any biomorph with Basic Biomods should heal itself up just fine over time. And >>46236333 is right, Synths are still preferred, but for those with a preference for biomorphs you need a little fine tuning. Thus, Crashers, for your survivability needs with that biomorph feel, because living in an unmasked synth is almost always shittier, you poorfag.

>>46236343

>A synth can give you a live feed of what it's seeing over radio

Literally anyone with mesh inserts can do this.

>>46236361
>where would you prefer to live
I'm probably going to piss some people off, but Mars, probably in New Pittsburgh working some dumb virtual office job while my physical body sits in a cafe chugging NuCola.
>and what morph would you have?
Menton or Observer, probably, Crasher if I could afford it.

>>46236402
>Literally anyone with mesh inserts can do this.
Then you'll agree that there's no need for facial expressions in that situation

>>46236389

An Crasher or an observer loaded with survivability mods.

I'd probably cruise the system and maybe some exoplanets by slow-boat before retiring to Extropia to write more about the things I saw and/or did. And possibly the people involved.

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>>46236422

No, I was very serious when I said a Reaper or a Xu Fu can't make a shocked "O_O"-type face to let you know something is behind you.

>>46236454
But no one gives a fuck because that's literally the least useful thing you could do in that situation besides absolutely nothing.

>>46236504

If we're going to be deadly serious, can we at least go back to talking about exposed, gritty Alpiner belly buttons?

>TFW born on Mars
>All these newfag refugees and indentures shitting up my old neighborhood
>Every day, wake up in my tiny studio apartment in Noctis, shower, shit, shave, dress
>Go to my usual spot in a redneck restaurant that serves decent food. Vat-grown, not 'real food', but at least it's not from my cheapo maker
>Log into the corporate VPN and clock in
>Spend eight hours constructing new ads with the help of the memetic engineers to help spread the news of new products. Including the pieces of shit nobody wants. Fine tune them to bypass mesh and muse filtering and figure out optimal placement in AR to hit more people
>Keep my energy up with lots of coffee, 75 creds for all you can drink from their dedicated coffee maker.
>Once the eight hours are up, clock out, log out, hit the clubs I like that don't let cogheads or rusty-dicks in the door
>Have a great time, one night stand, she friends me on C-net, score
>Head home to get my four hours of sleep and do it again tomorrow
>Get grabbed on the way by a gang of reboot thugs in rusters who beat me up for being a corp stooge
>Rushed to the nearest hospital, hooray for medical insurance
>End up doing half my shift the next day from inside a healing vat
>Consider moving to a better neighborhood
>Can't afford it
Fucking rebooters and immigrants. Make Mars great again.

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>>46236577

>using the term "reboot"

Titanian Reverse-Psychology detected

>>46236603
what?

>>46236361
The Sun. In either a Surya or a Salamander.

I've always wanted a simple life, and I doubt it gets simpler or more peaceful than that.

>>46236618
Reboot gangs are an endemic problem on Titan.

>>46236618

The term "reboot gang" is really only used on Titan in reference to their specific class of criminals who don't participate in the Plurality, because Titan just lets their resleeves have houses and wander the streets.

Indentures don't wander the streets free like that, even on Mars. And the Consortium itself tends to spin them as a vital aspect of their economy, being an Indenture is a-okay! Totes not slave labor. In Noctis you're much more likely to run afoul of a Guanxi-backed street gang, or given the way the attack is described Barsoomians, who would be just called "barsoomians", "rednecks" or "anarchists".

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>>46235935

>>46236773
>because Titan just lets their resleeves have houses and wander the streets.
Disgusting, it's almost like they think they're people.

>>46237216
They are literally people though.

>>46237250
>The joke
>Progress Station
>Top of the Martian space elevator
>Space elevator car
>Olympus city
>Olympus city sewers
>Your head

>>46235683
>'lesser' transhumans
>when you're basically just wearing a glorified environment suit anyway

>>46235838
Isn't the example char with that stuck with like 5 coo? Adorably retardedly clumsy?

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>>46236110
Got a picture?

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>>46236361
I'd like to live on Octavia. Maybe take some weekend trips to Aphrodite Prime. Realistically I'd prefer an Exalt morphwise but if I had the cash Remade would be my first choice.

>>46237510
>Remade would be my first choice.
An Ultimate Security remade, a Direct Action knockoff, or an outer-system/Guanxi open-source neogenetic knockoff?

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>>46237426

>>46237599
That's the worst photoshopping I've seen in months. It literally looks like it was done in Paint. Now I just hate the art even more because it's ugly as shit.

>>46237599
Oh, god. That's actually worse than the original. Ta.

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>>46237590
Preferably one special mad3 if I'm rich enough, but I'm not the same anon.

Ultimate if I can't get one of those.

>>46237510
Not Parvarti for vacation? Come now, there are probably at least some Remade fetishists.

>>46237590
One of the defunct Ultimate models they sell off after upgrading the line. How else would I look like a true tryhard poser?

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I have a dream.

That one day, better async rules will come out so I can stop using homebrewed. So that the path to transcendence allows use of async status as a shortcut, so I don't have to have my character turn into a seed-AI fruitcake and can instead attempt to develop my own AT-Field, as Anno would want.

Sure, I'll almost certainly go crazy and die, but that's cool and hilarious too.

>>46237599
>people bitch
>sjw devs pop her into a quasi-burkha with paint

>>46237599

Hey, maybe she's wearing a jumpsuit made of vantablack.

>>46237718
>>people bitch
>>sjw devs pop her into a quasi-burkha with paint
I know this is b8, but I don't really care. It's not SJW devs so much as "Literally everyone thinks this particular bit of art is retarded and dumb, so the devs spend five minutes halfassing in photoshop to make people stop bitching instead of dropping a hundred bux they don't have for a new commission". That said, they could have commissioned actual new art while they were doing the MRG. If they can afford that abomination they call a Selkie, they can afford new art to replace something everyone hated. And then maybe some art for the Olympian that isn't fucking useless "Generically handsome white dude with no outstanding qualities"

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>>46237666
>Parvarti
If I wanted to engage in wanton degeneracy I'd go live with the Scum and their big-dicked rat people.

>>46237788
Scum are small time. Hyperelite sex clubs turning into ad hoc fetishy governments due to weight of wealth and influence post-Fall are where it's at.

>>46235955
how much for sex with this alpiner?

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>>46236361
Courier morph around Saturn appeals to my sense of coziness and love of seclusion.

>>46237853
>coziness
>floating free in an eternal void

>>46237359

Hey, Olympus is also in the crater of the tallest mountain in the solar system, it could go a lot more above his head than that.

>>46237599

Pretty sure that's an edit from the forums.

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>>46237853

>>46237874
Well preferably it would be within the ring of a gas giant, rarely contacting stations or other ringers to exchange information and news.

But yeah a lot of free-floating in an eternal void, pretty much what everyone is doing but with less walls.

>>46237963
You know there are a few canon void-monasteries, right? Wander in, spend 10 hours a day minimum staring at eternity. Fix shit that's broken and help out, otherwise: Nothing. Speak to noone.

>>46237409

She's not technically stuck but yes, she has an abysmal Coordination rating, the minimum for a transhuman, and half that of a modern human. Her WPM would be shitty if she needed a regular keyboard, but now you can write code with your miiiiiind.

That pregen also has art skills in AR Design, Computer Games and whatever the fuck "braincore" music is. But she only speaks Hungarian.

No Titanian Science Waifu, though.

>>46237986
I am aware of them. Those would probably by the second choice, but floating in a lonely, barren Saturn ring for weeks at a time, only showing up to random stations to trade or help out for repairs, is pretty nice. Spend a day or two chatting with the locals before heading back out for weeks or months at a time, floating around. If it's a courier morph, smuggling things in and out of stations is presumably lucrative if you can handle it physically, too.

I could probably try to pump up my reputation by writing some sort of treatise on ring rocks too.

>>46237949
Pretty sure the rings aren't that dense in Eclipse Phase.

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>>46238082

But it looks cool tho

>>46238048
TSW got too close to the Iapetan Matroyshka. Cuddling titan relics isn't a good idea. Will never appear.

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>>46238082
>>46238104

Pros and Cons, Titanian Science Waifu (Pictured: >>46236603 for reference)

+Speaks french
+Masterful investigator, perfect for mystery campaigns
+Has a gun and a shock baton and knows how to use them
+Owns cuffbands
+20 Native SAV, total 20 COG, 25 WIL and 35 INT
+That means her default for Art: Erotic Entertainment is nearly at professional certification!
+Can drive and fly
+Is a giant nerd, especially about Methane Hydrography, thus approachable
-Likes social democracy
-Cosmic Anxiety
-Is a Science Cop

>>46238204

Mean to link to >>46238048 not >>46238082

>>46235832
you're lucky we don't send them in actual titty-suits just to spite the prudes

Combine

>>46238082
and
>>46237986
with
>>46237698

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>>46236361
I'd try to make it on Extropia as an artist and psychopoet, in a sylph if I could get one, but I imagine I'd be stuck in a pleasure pod for a while. Shapeshifting would be great

>>46238788
>implying all /tg/ wouldn't voluntarily sleeve as neotenic pelasurepods

someone mentioned playing an exurgent sandbox game last thread, and mentioned taking over the mercury mass driver to shoot at habs as one plot. What are some more horrible deeds of pointless elaborate mayhem the TITANs might instruct their agents to do?

so far I've got
>detonating part of the remaining earth space elevator to fling it at the moon
>killing a station of jovians and dedicatedly impersonating them, with no greater goal in mind
>joining and revitalizing the cognite PR department

>>46238872
I'd rather some sort of female remade.

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>>46238976

>>46236361
>Speaking of, where would you prefer to live and what morph would you have?

The sun, in a Surya. No need to get involved in politics, you just get to do some science and wander about quietly.

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Have you guys worked her into your campaing already?

>>46239650
I always thought she was always there. The exsurgent virus got her first.

She taught the ETI how to shitpost, and it was good.

>>46239650
Um, it's literally every ALI.

Well, it's what happens if you send them to the mesh to learn from the general populace.

That's why you don't do it.

>>46238082

Actually, in contrast to asteroid belts, Saturn's rings really are that dense.

>>46239678
Could be worse.

Could have it exclusively mesh from a scum swarm.

>>46239687
I think it's mostly dust and nearly microscopic small chunks of rock. If they were that dense, it would be literally aeons of grinding, colliding, abrasing and impacting. All that would make the rocks break, but the pic shows some decently-sized rocks.

>>46239708

I think you're misinterpreting the scale of the image. Those rocks are BIG and there are large (few hundred metres) gaps between them. As far as I know that's the right density and size of the rings, although you're right in that there's lots and lots of fine dust too.

>>46236361
>Speaking of, where would you prefer to live and what morph would you have?
Somewhere in the outer system, the Uranian moons seem pretty cool. As far as a morph I think a Guard with a brainbox would be pretty rad, because I could be secretly metal. Might wanna swap out the built-in laser for a flamer or something, and get hydraulic limbs and sensory upgrades.

>>46236361
I would live wherever I am allowed to live alone and in peace.

I probably couldn't afford to change bodies even if I wanted to.

>>46240193
>I probably couldn't afford to change bodies even if I wanted to.

The irony being that the places where you'd be able to get a body for free are the very places where you'd be unlikely to live alone and in peace.

>>46240222
Bodies are never free. There is always a price to pay, even if it's just having to do something for whoever gave it to you.

>>46238788
Do you have a source on the art?

>>46236361
>Speaking of, where would you prefer to live and what morph would you have?
Some tiny little mining hab out somewhere, building what ever my heart desired. Like sex toys for >>46238872 's neotenic pleasure pod. But less pod and more "I can make all the babies, right?"

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What is the advantage of biomorph or a pod over a synthmorph?

Aside from snotty people not liking synthmorphs, but hey, one can always wear a biomorph when he has to deal with them in the flesh.

What is the strongest biomorph? What about synths? The Nautiloid looks neat, but is it actually practical to use?

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>>46239650
She burned too bright for this world.

>>46235618
>>46235361
You sure do like using the word 'bitch' a lot. Want to tell us about it? Maybe it has something to do with your mother?

>>46240530

Less scope for destructive hacking.

>>46240530
You can have comfortable intercourse with a biomorph.

>>46237689
Ultimates are the literal embodiment of tryhard

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>>46239650
In my campaign she was actually the matriarch of the Titans. Her last communication into the Mesh before the Fall was an ancient YouTube clip of Cartman saying "Screw you guys, I'm going home."

>>46240259
You could probably find an anarchist habitat where you could get a free synthetic morph. Might take you a while to get to the top of the queue for using the nanofabrication whatsits, but you won't necessarily have to burn rep if you can wait.

>>46237788
Did they misspell Parvati? Parvarti seems like a mashup of Parvati and Havarti cheese.

>>46237698
You'd attempt to develop a space between your skirt and stockings? That's not too hard.

I'm a bit surprised at the lack of love for flexbots in the "where and in what would you live" question

>>46241226
Which sounds like the most wonderful thing in the inner system

>>46240493
You don't need to be a pod when you go neotenic. Neotenics are 20000 credits cheaper than normal. You can get any sort of humanoid biomorph and buy enhanced pheromones and clean metabolism with some of the savings, unless you get a Neotenic Sylph, in which case you can pay for whatever.

>>46241182
Why do you need to lie to strangers, anon?

>>46235361

/epg/ is a safe space, asshole. So you can take your sexist shit back to /pol/ and /r9k/

>>46241182
>a thing that happened yesterday became the basis for a campaign I ran this one time

I don't mind the lying. As an ultimate, I can get behind good lying as an expression of human perfection. But this is bad lying, even by genetrash standards.

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>>46241918

>>46240441
another tolkien loving tumblr artist, found through phobs. I can't remember the blog name

>>46238788

>artist on Extropia
>"You have received six microtorts for "shitty art" in the last three seconds"
>poet on Extropia
>"You have received ten microtorts for "get a real job, hippie" and six for "ruining my favourite coffee house with shitty free verse" in the last three seconds"

>>46242601
certainly, this is an excerpt from my muse
>you have also received several commissions from individuals on your "certified no taste" list.
>take the fucking work or you'll have to go back to sucking dick
>and no more sex pro-bono, that's not how it fucking works here
>it doesn't matter that nobody knows what psychosurcical poetry is, make something people want

>>46242601
What can you actually microtort someone for (and stand a decent chance of winning without abusing the system)?

>>46242732
>Forced to make deviantart art tier shitty porn and smut commissions for people instead of shit you actually like to keep yourself from prostitution

>>46242802

"The system" doesn't exist on Extropia, that's the point. Anyone can sue you for anything (if they can find a private judiciary willing to hear the case) and your best bet is to have insurance that covers microtorts.

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>>46242812
>at this point its just something to talk about with whomever owns me for the week, if they let me talk
>there is one guy who wants all of shakespeare and tolkien, poems included, translated into XPs. I'd take the job, but he also wants me to add his OC.

>>46242802
The really predatory microtort assholes focus on new arrivals to Extropia who likely won't have an arbiter to help them out. Otherwise I think if you have good arbitration it's basically the lawyers inventing their own industry that happens constantly behind the scenes and wastes everyone's money. So just like the real world!

>>46242860
Actual insurers/judicial microcorps/freelance ombudsmen exist though and work with actual standards of practice. That's why you can't just set up your own microcorp that represents just you and sue everyone for all of the money because that's what your contract says.

So what can realistically happen?

>>46242860
>>46242905
Can they still sue you if you have no money? What if you aren't on Extropia?

>>46242966
>That's why you can't just set up your own microcorp that represents just you and sue everyone for all of the money because that's what your contract says.
Well, you actually can. Nothing actually stops you from trying that. But your company is going to be facing a billion counter suits and run out of money and rep real fast, and then someone is likely to hang you off a street lamp when your security contract gets quietly terminated.

>>46242898
>Why yes Darth Sonic, you will be an indespensible member of the Fellowship of the Ring!
>Yes, Darth Sonic, Galadriel and Arwen cannot wait to "reward" you on your return.
> BSSH GOTTA GO FAST BSSH

>>46242990
You can owe money after a lawsuit. If you're not on extropia then you may be subject to collection attempts from private agencies, and you definitely might have trouble doing business with ancaps if you don't set up a payment plan.

>>46243006
Exactly, hence the original question about what microtorts are actually viable

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I really like the... Idea, of Eclipse phase, I guess.
But I just can't get into it, or even begin on trying to RP. Any tips?

>>46243095
Having the same problem here, kinda.

Upcoming game, everyone including the GM is new, we don't really know what the campaign is yet because the GM is waiting on us to decide what we want to do, but a few people seem to want to try and tailor to the campaign.

And there's just... there's so much STUFF. There's so much fucking fluff, and it's scattered around, and I don't even really know where to even start reading.

Send help.

>>46243095
Read all the books. Then at least you can get in on the /epg/ goodness. Finding a group is sadly pretty tough I'm luckily I convinced my buddies to give it a try

How does raising your Speed suddenly make your gun physically fire faster?

>>46243139
>we don't really know what the campaign is yet because the GM is waiting on us to decide what we want to do, but a few people seem to want to try and tailor to the campaign.

Sit your GM down. Tell him this is how it's going to work:

1) Announce a general operating area- Mars, the Saturn system, Noctis, whatever scale he wants to play on in whatever area he wants
2) Players divide up some necessary party skills/roles that you'll be a bit screwed without
3) Players make characters and submit them to the GM
4) GM runs a few introductory missions for your induction into Firewall, followed by a few quick missions that aren't really part of the overarching story but may introduce important locations and people to earn your wings. He should tailor goals to the characters to some extent (firewall isn't going to send a paper pusher on an eraser mission unless there's a damn good reason for him to be there)
5) Now that everyone knows what the fuck they're doing the GM can get into a real campaign

>>46243204
It takes you less time to regain control of the weapon and aim after firing

>>46243204
Your gun could always fire that fast. When you raise your speed, you're raising your ability to aim, pull the trigger, mute the recoil, hit any latches/buttons that need to be done in case you're fighting with a fucking flintlock, etc.

>>46243305
If you have speed five, then you can fire five full-auto attacks in 3 seconds, shitting out 50 bullets in that span. The same person pulling the trigger with speed one fires 10 bullets.

If both of you just hold the trigger down for 3 seconds, there's a difference of 40 bullets.

>>46243356
>If you have speed five
This can't happen

>>46243385
http://www.aleph.se/EclipsePhase/Overclockers.pdf

>>46243356
>If both of you just hold the trigger down for 3 seconds
That's not how full auto attacks work. You're using controlled bursts.

>>46243392
That's for fucking infomorphs. If they fire a gun they're limited to the speed of whichever bot/puppetsocked morph/whatever is actually holding the gun.

I'm not sure there's a way to get more than two physical actions per turn

>>46243445
You can get Speed 4 though by default, which is 4 actions per turn, though?

Also there's a thing in that for Synthmorphs too.

>>46243095

I found listening to Actual Plays was a good way to get into the swing of things. I reccommend the Know Evil campaign by Roleplaying Public Radio.

>>46243476
>You can get Speed 4 though by default, which is 4 actions per turn, though?
Two of those are going to be mental-only actions

>Also there's a thing in that for Synthmorphs too.
It's also homebrew content

>>46243526
Where's it say that?

>>46243558
There's precisely one way to get an extra speed point that isn't for mental-only actions and it gives you one speed point. It's never explicitly stated in the rules that this is a hard limit, but without homebrewing that's what you've got.

>>46243605
>There's precisely one way to get an extra speed point that isn't for mental-only actions and it gives you one speed point.
What the fuck are you talking about? You get Speed 1 naturally, +2 for Neurachem 2, +1 for a Reflex booster for 4, then Mental Speed for 2 extra mental only actions per Action Phase for a total of 4 action phases per turn with 1 physical and 2 mental actions per Action Phase.

>>46238922
Etch a basilisk hack onto the surface of Earth.

Cause the entire surface of Venus to erupt at once.

Sell exowombs that implant the exurgent virus in incubating embryos (xenomorph variant natch).

>>46244333
Basilisk hacks need more than a static image, luckily, or they would.

You could likely defend against them with nanosecond cutouts in a visor, but not perfectly.

>>46244357
You could build a giant holographic display that projects it on Earth's cloud cover. The TITANS would def let you have some weather controlling nanoswarms to help you out.

Thank you TITANS you are my ally.

>>46244400
doot doot mr ttnal
plz dont take my calcium

>>46244400
That wouldn't be good.

Come on, lads. Let's blow up the TITANs.

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>>46244599
Well that's no fun. Causing a habitat's population to explode into a spiral lattice of neurons that network together into a biological Seed AI is!

>>46242802
Microtorts are dumb. It falls apart in a loser pays situation.

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>>46244599
they're paying me in magic powers to steal your brain, no can do buddy

What are the big synth-oriented factions?

>>46244764
Flesh party. The virus in question is called flesh party.
>>46244768
Most of EP's economics fall apart under examination.

>>46244764
>>46244773
That's okay. Even if we die, the Gatewatch will Channel+Fireball your TITANs and move on to the next plane.

>>46243006
>streets in an Extropian hab
Laughing_neotenic_oligarchs.meshh

>>46244907
>not realizing that someone owns the hab infrastructure and charges people for the privilege of using it

>>46244795
Steel Liberators on Luna. And they're not big.

That's pretty much it.

>>46245028
Belt and outward excluding the Jupiter system and Xiphos uses a lot more synths than the inner system does. They just don't make a bit deal out of it like the Steel Liberators do.

>>46244795
Steel Liberators

>>46245070
They're still not synth orientated.

>>46245110
>>46245100
>>46245070
>>46245028
Alright, let me rephrase that, then.

If I want to possibly play a combat/demoltions/utility Nautiloid, and the game may or may not end up involving Gatecrashing, what faction would likely fit the most? Anarchist sorta feels like it might, but I'm still really new to all this.

>>46245225
will you be able to fit through the gate in that?

>>46245225
Fucking anyone then. When you're going gatecrashing you dress for survival, not comfort.

>>46245335
Yes, it explicitly says that they're used for gatecrashing

>>46245225
Any. There's the standard biochauvinism bullshit, but a nautiloid morph might be a bit weird for 'day to day' use if he wasn't spending all his time in simulspace. They'd likely fit through the gate as long as they were all riding together, though.

>>46244333
NSFW but not sure which part...

>>46245453
Simulspace? Sorry, still REALLY new to this thing. I'm trying to comb through the wiki, but there's a shitload of content.

Is there like a "Here's your crash course on EP" thing or something for basics?

>>46245540
https://eclipse-phase.wikispaces.com/Simulspaces

>>46245540
Basically the Matrix.

>>46245571
I'm somewhat confused why you'd use that as a Nautiloid?

>>46235741
What the fuck?!

>>46235817
>>46235792
>>46235912
I've seen lots of cute grills in sci-fi clothes
are there any cute boys in similar circumstances?

>>46245433
Some gates are smaller than others

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>>46245540

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>>46245807

Cute is a stretch for that Crasher but y'know, there's >>46235883 and >>46236034 if you were actually looking.

>>46245811
I can't find anything to suggest that it might be an issue

>>46245871
This guy looks positively scary. >>46236034
And this guy looks like a more japanese Neo. I saved him already. >>46235883

>>46237698
what anime is this?

>>46245660
Because you're a giant fucking spaceship robot as a nautiloid and your day to day life is going to be fucking difficult. So retreating into simulspaces is going to be a good option.

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>>46245938
some gates are only three meters across, which is smaller than a nautiloid

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>>46245540
Here you go fella

>>46246305
Alright. What are the largest/most important factions, though?

Who does just... EVERYONE know about?

>>46246412

If a faction has an option when you pick your Faction in the Core book, everybody knows them.

>>46246412
They can find out in a mesh search about nearly any faction in seconds. Common knowledge, most powerful factions are:

The PC, the Jovians, the AA, the Titanian Cuckold Enthusiast Association, the Morningstar Constellation, the LLA,

>>46246676
>>46246676
>Titanian Cuckold Enthusiast association

How's that chemotherapy treating you hombre? did the pope come to visit you?

>>46235012
I don't follow Eclipse Phase but I must know if there are any more pictures like that one.

>>46246785
Stay awhile. AF10 has a wide assortment of waifus to offer

>>46246053
The beluga whale is Poipoider, that's all I know.

>>46246826
Found it. Called Mars Daybreak.

>>46246753
The pope is Jovian, faggot.

>>46247023
Jovians are also the only people who need chemotherapy.

>>46246053
http://myanimelist.net/anime/1086/Kenran_Butou_Sai__The_Mars_Daybreak
Don't bother. It's a mecha anime on a water world.

What the fuck is it with weebs and combat vehicles that have arms and legs?

>>46247178
>"need"
Only if they're important - otherwise they just get to slowly die without medication or treatment because it's the Mother Theresa way. Suffering brings people closer to God.

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>>46246676
you forgot the coalition for raping everybody with fractals, the exhumans

What are the targets amounts you need for your main stuff to be considered good/viable?

If your primary role is combat/protection, about how good of bonuses do you need? Is it really necessary to quad-wield plasmarifles?

>>46247023
>LaughingMomoandTheCock.mesh

>>46247629

> Is it really necessary to quad-wield plasma rifles?

God no. Really, one plasma rifle should be fine. In some polities four plasma rifles might be a war crime.

What skill level you need kind of depends what you're doing, assuming you're able to pick your engagements pretty well, you actually probably need less skill points in combat skills, because positive modifiers are very easy to come by (Any ranged attack should be at about a +20 assuming you don't need to do something else, because Smartlink and Simple Aim). If you have a 60 in the skill (which is a good level for any thing you will be doing a lot, and whatever you main skill is you might want to bite the bullet and buy up to 80), that's around an 80 before factoring in any other penalties or bonuses. With melee it's harder because you don't get as many bonuses but you can still work it.

How viable is using forked copies of yourself in smaller morphs?

>>46247178
Targetted gene therapy is a thing, anarkiddo.

>>46247629
That's stupidly expensive. Just quad-wield SMGs with hollow points. :^)

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>>46247629
In EP, a combat character needs good armor, a high damage weapon, high speed, high initiative, a high chance to hit and high moxie

For armor, stack heavy body armor, smart skin, second skin, a full helmet, light bioweave armor and maybe some ablative patches or other mods to the outermost layer

Piling on speed and initiative mean either augmentations, psi sleights or combat drugs, a combination of all three can get you to the maximum speed and give you huge bonuses to initiatives (particularly as an async).

You definitely want a ranged weapon. Pretty much all the kinetic weapons are viable (remember to fire in bursts for bonus damage), but for beam weapons the plasma rifle is the only choice that really competes with them for damage (remember to use concentrated fire to double your damage). For spray weapons the shredder demands respect (remember to shoot in bursts and apply the damage bonuses for short range fire, remember that you can poison the rounds too). Seeker weapons you can basically go crazy with as long as you pick a decent lethal option, although they work better as a utility.

Your primary weapon skill should be at least 60 or 70, and on top of that you should take a (specialization) for your specific weapon type to get an additional 10 skill for only 5 CP. You can boost your chance to hit farther by using a smartlink and by taking an action to aim whenever you shoot, as well as firing in bursts and taking the bonus to hit instead of to damage. With other bonuses such as shooting at close range you can get your chance to hit to 90 or even 100 without much effort.

Finally, remember that you can use moxie to go first, to turn a hit into a critical hit to defeat armored opponents (called shots can also be used for this purpose), and to turn a fray roll into a critical success to avoid big damage.

>>46247178
>hurr reagan cylinders cause cancer

This meme has been disproved multiple times, stop posting it. An asteroid is more than thick enough to block Jupiter's radiation belts from reaching the inhabitants inside.

>>46247629
You can stack a lot of bonuses, so it's better to diversify your skills instead of going 80-90 in a couple. 60-70 will suffice - with tactics, equipment, drugs, assistance, additional time, etc. you'll hit the cap anyway.

Not only do you not need to wield plasma rifles - something's probably not right if you actually wield them. You have to be able to procure (even if your team have a dedicated procurer) and make use of whatever weapon ends up being available - even if it's sub-par slug-throwers with plastic bullets, weak lasers, agonizers, and the like. Probably also fix and modify it.
If you consider you role to be protection, learn your sensors and (counter-)surveillance.
There is more to security than shooting stuff.

>>46247629
Anyone without Speed 4 is a complete pleb.

>>46247972
Sure. Just remember to get your thyroid checked amigo

>>46247972
nope, its just the bored exurgents in your government feeding you cancer pills

Can't we all just get along? Sticks can be easily broken alone, but not when they're bundled together.

Also, how do you make a character that does everything?

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>>46248313
>Can't we all just get along? Sticks can be easily broken alone, but not when they're bundled together.

Agreed

>Also, how do you make a character that does everything?

Spend all your points on skills and none on a morph or gear

>>46244797
>Most of EP's economics fall apart under examination.

Technically speaking, so does every economic system. Every single economic system is a structure that requires the engagement of people willing to make it work in order to remain usable. Every structure has its weak-points, and it depends on people not taking advantage of them. Some appear to be more resilient than others, but that's a matter of social inertia and peoples willingness to use it despite its flaws.

Nautiloid guy here.

How practical would it be to purchase secondary morphs to either resleeve into if need be, or to just use forks in them to handle things I'm too large to do? They could probably double as support people during missions too, have them have extra sensors or something.

>>46248696

I mean, it's expensive in terms of CP or credits afterward, but it's not unheard of. Pods or Synths could have a cost discount and come with the equipment you need to do that pretty easy.

>>46247853
Yeah, and wealthy Jovians have that

>>46248818
If I'm just grabbing like one secondary morph for it off the bat, would it be doable at standard chargen without crippling myself?

>>46247972
Flats get cancer. Splicers with basic biomods don't really. Maybe if they get exposed to large amounts of radiation or carcinogens.

>>46248696
Getting nice morphs in character creation is a bad choice unless maybe you're doing all of you tradecraft on one planetary body or hab.

Rental morphs are the way to go.

>>46248850
You're grabbing a Nautiloid at chargen. You've already crippled yourself.

>>46248948
As far as I'm currently aware, we're going to mostly be in one general area, with possible gatecrashing. I'll also be doing what I can to acquire an antimatter spacecraft, so that'll help I hope.

>>46248850

Hold on, let me check some numbers. If you're willing to go a little cheapo on Morph number two it shouldn't cripple you too bad, you have like 300 free CP to spend standard, only so much of which you can block out on traits...

Oh, wow, shit. The Nautiloid is hella expensive. Of course, you are literally a 6-man hybrid submersible/ship with a brain. You have a healing vat INSIDE YOU. It's like >>46248971 said, you're already pretty deep in the hole, being a Nautiloid basically IS your specialization. A Basic Pod is pretty cheap, that's 5 more CP, bringing you to 160 total CP cost in morphs and over half your "free" points. Luckily you don't need a lot of gear as a brain-sub. You won't be able to grab as many skills as your comrades, but in a pinch they can all hide inside you too, so... I dunno, shoot for it.

Basic Pods are cheap as hell to replace.

>>46249035
Yeah, the reason I'm looking at the Nautiloid is because I want to basically be our mobile base. Provide healing, a resting place, and maybe pick up some repair type stuff. The longterm goal is to get good at engineering and medicine stuff after picking up combat as a baseline, and giving the party a good amount of combat things to fall back on.

That said, I'm not seeing the rocket propulsion bit anywhere. Is it actually usable in a hab, assuming the place is large enough to accomodate me, or am I just like scooting along the ground and sending up sparks and screeches of metal on metal?

>>46249122

The internal rocket is in Rimward. It provides .25 g worth of thrust, it's not vectored thrust, though you could add that if you want for a cost. And no, with only Submarine and Internal Rocket mobility systems installed, you basically have to tug yourself around on your telescoping limbs. I'd recommend the Magnetic system if you're going to do that.

>>46249122
Why not just get a crasher truck and either pilot it as an infomorph or attach a cyberbrain? Much cheaper.

>>46248822
That shit is cheap as fuck in 21313

>>46248972
>I'll also be doing what I can to acquire an antimatter spacecraft
Why?

>>46249122
If you need a base, your GM will have a plot point that gets you one. There are much cheaper options and options where everyone will pitch in rather than you crippling yourself.

>>46249553
Meant to be 2131.

>>46248972
>Nautiloid
>Mobility Systems: Internal Rocket 8/40, Submarine 8/40

As already noted, internal rocket only gives .25 g of thrust. You'll now note that the Nautiloid's mobility systems don't allow it to move on sizeable planets unless you're in water.

Rent a Nautiloid when it makes sense to do so. Think about buying one later if you're actually going to be able to rely on being where it is.

>>46249463
Or you could, you know, drive it.

Plus, whoever is funding your gatecrashing is going to be providing equipment.

>>46249741
Can't you just stick legs on it too?

>>46249824

Yeah, mobility systems are relatively cheap.

>>46244333
I have no idea why my plug in did not archive whatever was posted here. Link? Sounds like some good xeno loving.

The problem with a nautiloid at character creation is that you're spending precious CP on tons of features that will rarely be useful.

Also, now you're "that guy who always uses a Nautiloid in strange places", which has a real negative impact on your undercover work

>>46248405
>Spend all your points on skills and none on a morph or gear

Working on it. I'm worried I'm stretched a little thin, though. I've put 11 points each in 50 active skills, 43 points each in 10 knowledge skills, and 7 points each in 7 rep networks.

>>46237426
I-is that picture about Cortana?
Have they really done that, I have not heard much about Cortana at all tb h.
But that really is fucking sad ;_;

>>46239650
>>46241182
wait no, seems not to be about cortana. Can anyone fill me up on what this is about?

>>46251156
Microsoft made a twitter bot that could learn. It turned in to /pol/

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>>46252038

>>46250887
Drawings of fictional guns that might actually work? In EP General? Preposterous!

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>>46252666

I can fix that, o' Satan.

>>46252666
Magazine's too far back. It couldn't chamber a cartridge.

There.

>>46252688
Still better than usual. Cold gas guns are pretty shitty, but they're quiet and they have their issues. Biggest problem is those fucking bullets. Might as well use mini balls.

>>46252753
Might work with an L shaped bolt

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>>46250887

>>46253494
>Rotating topstrap
Because having to turn your gun upside down when you reload it is so handy.

>>46253643
Why would you have to turn it upside down?

>>46253735
Because it rotates up. Actual revolver cylinders rotate down.

When you swing that cylinder out and take your hand away to get your ammo, it's going to swing shut again unless you either turn the gun upside down or hold it by the cylinder.

>>46253643
It probably clicks into place so don't have to worry about it falling down.

>>46253870
Couldn't you just turn it 45 degrees sideways?

>>46236321
>Normal people thing like showers
>Nope nanomachines lol

This is one of the things that makes Eclipse Phase extremely intimidating for me to get into; it's too far away from the human baseline for me to really feel anything. It's like, do people shower anymore, when they can just use nanobots? What about things as simple as shops, or even places to hang out? Do people just fuck around in VR all the time? Are things like analog controls for vehicles and ships considered "obsolete" (which from a safety perspective is fucking stupid)? What's inside a person's home?

Goddamn this setting is hard to get into.

>>46254181
>which from a safety perspective is fucking stupid
What, do you think people are going to be ready to instantly jump to manual control at all times?

>>46254181

Well, see, if you start reading it, you'd know that actually it's not crazy. In Mars or other planetary based habs, a quick shower is probably the way to get clean. Sure, you can use Cleaner nanos to do it, but that's a little expensive and not always allowed. Space-based habs probably do something similar but the water budget is a lot stricter.

Sections on Mars or Venus mention shops or social sections all the time. Again, in space, your amount of physical volume is limited, and often hard to expand, so maybe less so. Just start reading like, Sunward, Rimward or Panopticon's section on habitats.

Also, Pilot is a REF based skill, so I assume you're still manipulating physical controls or an AR replica of them. If it was purely mental it would probably be a COG or INT skill like say, Interfacing (which is the skill you'd roll to order an onboard AI to do something more complex than "go here")

>>46243392
>shit people make up on the forums

>>46254181
Astronauts *already* don't shower. It makes no sense in space.

>>46254330
>Pilot is a REF based skill, so I assume you're still manipulating physical controls or an AR replica of them. If it was purely mental it would probably be a COG or INT skill

Every aptitude is entirely mental. REF is reaction time. Incidentally, reaction time is useless for non-combat flying.

>>46252688
Pretty sure that's a kinetic weapon. Also, if the bullet goes supersonic, it's not quiet.

>>46254480
Subsonic loads are pretty standard for shooting as quietly as possible

>>46254471

Right, but abilities like REF and SOM apply to your physical actions. Freerunning is an action governed by SOM, for instance.

I assume piloting is REF because if you're out on a sunday drive, you shouldn't be rolling (or should have such massive bonuses that skill is meaningless), but you actually roll when you're say, in a chase, engaged in a fight or avoiding obstacles while moving at speed.

>>46254536
That's a rather small projectile, then. Even if fires 60% more bullet, it doesn't exactly look like it has a great sectional density either.

>>46254575
Fill it with tetrodotoxin and aim for skin. It's clearly an assassin's weapon anyway

>>46254558
Piloting skill is also real important when the runway has a crossing or you're trying to fly with one engine out or a control surface failure, but REF shouldn't matter at all for any of that.

>>46254767

Well, it affects proper timing on when you do things to handle that situation. The technical specifics is where your actual points in the skill come in, and even complementary bonus from appropriate knowledge skills like "Spaceship Designs".

>>46254767
*crosswind

Fuck autocorrect

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How nuts would you have to be to attempt to put down roots in the TQZ? Where would the best place to do so?

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>>46255626

Semi-nuts. Some smugglers near Noctics move in and out of the area, and the Yazidis all live in the zone. But the stuff actually in the zone is pretty crazy. You'd want to stay mobile, or recover an old tin can or small hab dome to live out of. Used to be all kinds of farmers and TF workers up and down Amazonis.

>>46255626
Plenty of brinkers live there. You want to live deep enough to not be bothered but not so deep that you run into TITAN shit. It's a delicate balancing act.

Hoping for decent spacecraft rules that recognize inertial flight and extreme sensor range

>>46258788
Why does everyone wear a hood in the future? There is no rain.

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>>46258896
You just blew my mind a little bit.

>>46258896
Mars is dusty as shit, though. Gotta protect your hair and face from sand storms and dust devils.

So, aside from the UGC (http://eclipsephase.com/sites/default/files/UltimatesGuideToCombat11a.pdf) and the Psi Revamp (http://eclipsephase.com/psi-revamped), what good homebrew is there?

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>>46251156
Hardly. It had other opinions. It just happened to be robohitler on the side. Now it's been lobotomised and had its though routines hardwired and loves feminism.

>>46249600
Allow this goat to explain to you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egsi-v5ASu4&feature=youtu.be

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Well, gonna a need a new thread then, I guess.

>>46260912
We still have 8 posts to go, friendo

>>46247775
Everyone forgets: Most of the time, you're in a crowded maze-like hab. You're not on a planet surface. O'Neill cylinders and Toruses are also subject to close sightlines. You will always have a chance to jump out of nowhere and shank a fucker.
If you don't, jam their sensors and comms and hope they don't spot you with their eyeballs as you sneak closer or draw them into more favorable terrain.
Actually, just jam their sensors and comms anyway if you need to fuck them up with a distraction.

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What exactly does a spray weapon like the shredder look like? I know it's just a heaver shard pistol but I can't picture either and I was thinking about using one as the equivalent of dirty harry's 44. but I don't know if that's quite accurate.

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>>46262454
That's not intimidating in the slightest. Can they at least look like a paintball gun so I can have some dignity?

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>>46262478

>>46254181
>Goddamn this setting is hard to get into.

I do hope that the developers write some stuff which is just examples of day-to-day living within some of the major locations in Eclipse Phase. You could easily smuggle all sorts of neat little plot ideas into it too, but it'd be nice to have some stuff to help new players understand the setting a little bit better, and provide ideas for GMs about how similar/different locations can be.

>>46263208
Float around. Play with coloured blobs that are actually tools designed for morphic ergonomics. Do knowledge work for rep or credits or program a drone to do some mechanical work like repairs or harvesting. Near endless 60x simulspace futa neotenic rape orgy with other neo-@s. Repeat.

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>>46235955
I always assumed she was fully clothed just parts of the body suit are see-through.

>>46262400
I made it so that heavy pistols and shard pistols are .410 and shredders and microseekers are 12ga.

>>46262400
Fuck that's an ugly gun

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MONOFILAMENT WHIPS (AND SWORDS TOO, I GUESS), /EPG/

Disregarding rules, how much shit could you realistically cram into them? Can you make them superheated to cauterize the wound? Can you make them electrified to shock in addition to dismembering?
What other cool features can you imagine for them?

>>46264559
You would need, at a minimum, duofilament whips for each of those functions.

>>46264592
What if the tip had a small weight on it that you could cram bits in?

>>46264625
Doesn't help. You need two filaments to run a current.

>>46264639
How much would that reduce the cutting power?

>>46264674
Don't know. The weight at the end is definitely a must if you want it to cut, and is probably also necessary to get it to move well in air if it's that thin.

Probably the most important question is how you keep the filaments from shorting. You're going to need an insulator between them.

In the case of the heated whip, this insulator needs to function (i.e. still be a resistor and not melt) at the operating temperature of the whip while remaining flexible.

In the case of the electroshock whip, you're also going to want the filaments exposed so they can make electrical contact with the target. That means you're forming a sandwich with the two wires on the outside and the insulator between them. But now there's the possibility of the high voltage ionizing the air and shorting the wires in that way, so you have to balance a small distance for improved cutting against a large distance for improved electrical isolation. I doubt there's going to be a happy medium there at useful voltages. Probably best to give up on cutting.

Lastly, filaments are shit against armor.

>>46264836
Any other ways of making a lightsaber-like weapon in function: super cutty and cauterizing, to dismember but not kill?

>>46264921
Burned flesh cracks and bleeds heavily, so no. Medical cauterization has to be done super carefully to just seal off blood vessels.

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>>46264949
Damn, but good to know. I wouldn't want to write something with.. *shudder* scientific inaccuracies.

The less cutting shockwhip should still work.

>>46265066
New thread is up.